Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: dalymount on March 26, 2019, 07:48:06 am
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I wonder do any of you radio company subscriber's come under the terms of the new memo which is to be brought to cabinet tomorrow ? It is basically a proposal by minister Regina Doherty to address people who have been forced by their respective employers to declare themselves to be self employed,when in actual fact they are employees of that company.this is been done apperently because it saves the employer millions on PSRI contributions.as most drivers fall under the category of being forced to declare to be self employed,but who are actually employees of the radio scumbags ( at least the radio scumbags believe you are their employees as is evident by the way they treat you,) I just wondered how will this effect you ?
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I suppose this could cover a range of jobs - delivery drivers, bike couriers, Fast Food delivery people etc etc
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I work for mytaxi but I'm still classed as self-employed. I prefer it that way though, allowable deductions are significantly less under PAYE.
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Big problem in construction industry Subbies dont want to pay PRSI for employees main contractors use subbies to circumvent direct employment .
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There's a withholding tax regime for payments to subbies. Maybe that's what's required for the gig economy, Uber, mytaxi, Airbnb, etc...?
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What are you going to do when your EMPLOYERS Kearns Kelly Ebbs,start treating you like self employed drivers instead of employees ?
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In what way? If you work for a taxi firm you have to obey the rules. Only last week I got an email from mytaxi telling me I would be sacked if I broke the rules... like I didn't already know that.
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So you work FOR a radio company,instead of employing them to provide a service to you ? Interesting
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They use (or employ, if you prefer) me to cover their work. They call the shots. It's their work and they can cover it however they please. In fact, the firm I work for (mytaxi) uses hackneys and clapped out shiteboxes masquerading as limousines as well as taxis to cover it's work and it is a proponent of P2P rideshare. I don't have the power to sack them - yes, I could leave but I'd be replaced, they'd still have the work and it'd still be covered - but they do have the power to sack me. In fact, as noted above, they made that perfectly clear by email last week.
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They use (or employ, if you prefer) me to cover their work. They call the shots. It's their work and they can cover it however they please. In fact, the firm I work for (mytaxi) uses hackneys and clapped out shiteboxes masquerading as limousines as well as taxis to cover it's work and it is a proponent of P2P rideshare. I don't have the power to sack them - yes, I could leave but I'd be replaced, they'd still have the work and it'd still be covered - but they do have the power to sack me. In fact, as noted above, they made that perfectly clear by email last week.
What did you do to attract the ire of Mother ship??
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Nothing. I think it was a general warning sent to all drivers who work for the firm. It centred on passing on parking fees on Zone 18 jobs.
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Tut tut you'll probably have to take them to the employment appeals tribunal
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Nothing. I think it was a general warning sent to all drivers who work for the firm. It centred on passing on parking fees on Zone 18 jobs.
I didn't get that down here.
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Its 7_50 am,and that loud mouthed cunt is outside parliament shouting out as loud as he can STOOOOOP BREEEEEEXIT Steve bray is the cunts name,I wish somebody passing by would get his flag,and shove it up his hole
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All part of the fun, Dalyer.
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I wonder do any of you radio company subscriber's come under the terms of the new memo which is to be brought to cabinet tomorrow ? It is basically a proposal by minister Regina Doherty to address people who have been forced by their respective employers to declare themselves to be self employed,when in actual fact they are employees of that company.this is been done apperently because it saves the employer millions on PSRI contributions.as most drivers fall under the category of being forced to declare to be self employed,but who are actually employees of the radio scumbags ( at least the radio scumbags believe you are their employees as is evident by the way they treat you,) I just wondered how will this effect you ?
I am self-employed, I am the CEO, Treasurer, Cleaning lady and Spokesperson fer myself. I was with a base fer 9 years and really enjoyed it there, the problem with a base is you are kinda stuck with what they offer you, if you refuse too many jobs, then you get blacklisted fer the day, with MyTaxi they offer you jobs via the app, you can refuse as many as you like, the App don't give a Shite, if you don't want it then someone else will take it.
We are SELF-EMPLOYED !
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Its 7_50 am,and that loud mouthed cunt is outside parliament shouting out as loud as he can STOOOOOP BREEEEEEXIT Steve bray is the cunts name,I wish somebody passing by would get his flag,and shove it up his hole
Why is he shouting that ?
What difference in all reality is Brexit gonna mean to us Irish 'Joe Soaps' ?
An extra .10c on the sliced pan ?? Hardly the End of the World !
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Nothing. I think it was a general warning sent to all drivers who work for the firm. It centred on passing on parking fees on Zone 18 jobs.
I didn't get that down here.
Ken MYT probably recon its unlikely you come to big smoke for work
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Ken read my post again I questioned whether RADIO COMPANY subscribers are self employed or not,and by your answer you just confirmed they are not,as i've always said.the fact that a driver is blacklisted to use your own term,for refusing work,clearly indicates that although a driver employes these scumbags to provide him with work,the fact that he is penalised for refusing it,means he is NOT self employed.my definition of self employed means you have total control of your own business to operate in any way you se fit.the fa t that a leech from a radio company is controking your actions can hardly be considered self employment
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Your kinda right in what you say DM, but still we are all self employed fer tax purposes, your gonna have some job convincing the taxman that you are an employee of a base company.
Also I don't work fer a base, not that I have anything against them, but fer financial purposes my working hours are better suited to street or PPJ app work.
With the new 24 hour bus service down here even the mid week 'Jungle' hour of 2am to 3am has disappeared as the ranks are now full 24/7 mid week, just last night on a short 3 hour shift (12.30am to 3.30am) I got no job off the street but 8 app jobs (all with PUC) + 2 Scrub payments.
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I have to say again,I am SPECIFICALLY talking about radio companies.where a driver is being directed by a third party to wear a uniform,offer discounts,accept disciplinary action of the kind you have described, can hardly be considered to be self employed,unless the definition of self employment has changed
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Your frustrations about the radio companies are way OTT DM, they are out to make a crust just the same as us, I doubt any of the base owners are multi-millionaires. If you really needed some one to hate, then try the Banks or the Pension companies or your phone provider because they are all multi-Billionaires and most likely you pay in to them all !
Fer me 'Hating' takes up much too much energy, I prefer the Simple Life, Live and Let Live ! (except uber rideshare).
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I was chatting to a recruitment guy from MT the other day and told him about my various problems with the Ambassador system and the ranking up.He says others have been complaining too.There might be a review on the way as it's proving to be counterproductive..
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I was chatting to a recruitment guy from MT the other day and told him about my various problems with the Ambassador system and the ranking up.He says others have been complaining too.There might be a review on the way as it's proving to be counterproductive..
MFH hope your right, simple solution would be to reduce the Sticker/Sticker guys fees and let us all have a fair playing field when jobs pop up
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The Mytaxi branding will be ditched soon so they have an opportunity to change the setup.I find myself avoiding priority as it sends the app nuts and unusable.The lick arses will protest no doubt.
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Ken I have said many times my problem with the radio
scumbags is they have a belief the drivers are actually Their EMPLOYEES, rather then EMPLOYERS .these people are not only directing,but actually DISCIPLINING,drivers who are supposly self employed
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Ken I have said many times my problem with the radio
scumbags is they have a belief the drivers are actually Their EMPLOYEES, rather then EMPLOYERS .these people are not only directing,but actually DISCIPLINING,drivers who are supposly self employed
DM its like MYT if we/they(Radio Drivers) have an issue with our masters , its like "Shit or get off the Pot" , they can just block us any time they wish if we miss-behave, not sure wheither that makes us employees/employers or just dogs bodies.
At the end of the day we only have ourselves to blame
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stc my definition of self employment is a person who controls the business in which they operate.total control over all decisions on how to operate that business,and complete discretion regarding its operation.now if that same business owner ( the driver in this case) wishes to employ a radio company to provide work to him/ her for a fee,its hardly the place of that employee (the radio company) to direct how that driver should operate his business.the only function of these people is the provision of work,for a set weekly fee nothing more,nothing less.but if it is the case that this company is exceeding its remit by directing,and indeed disciplining drivers,and if drivers are prepared to accept such interferences in their businesses,then they can hardly classify themselves as self employed,and the source of such interferences ie the radio companies,should be subject to the full rigours,of industrial law,and the provision on appropriate contracts of employment etc etc
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stc my definition of self employment is a person who controls the business in which they operate.total control over all decisions on how to operate that business,and complete discretion regarding its operation.now if that same business owner ( the driver in this case) wishes to employ a radio company to provide work to him/ her for a fee,its hardly the place of that employee (the radio company) to direct how that driver should operate his business.the only function of these people is the provision of work,for a set weekly fee nothing more,nothing less.but if it is the case that this company is exceeding its remit by directing,and indeed disciplining drivers,and if drivers are prepared to accept such interferences in their businesses,then they can hardly classify themselves as self employed,and the source of such interferences ie the radio companies,should be subject to the full rigours,of industrial law,and the provision on appropriate contracts of employment etc etc
Agree entirely DM, but are self employed drivers prepared to stand alongside a self-employed driver who has met the rigours of MYT/Radio GaGa ? I don't think so , at the end of the day unfortunately we are self-employed and probably don't give a fcuk about the guy in the taxi next to us. It's call The Rat Race/Survival.
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The Mytaxi branding will be ditched soon so they have an opportunity to change the setup.I find myself avoiding priority as it sends the app nuts and unusable.The lick arses will protest no doubt.
Who you calling a Lick-Arse ?
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rofl
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That's a lovely photo Belker...yous look related..
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That's a lovely photo Belker...yous look related..
No Way Ken's better looking
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Ken I have said many times my problem with the radio
scumbags is they have a belief the drivers are actually Their EMPLOYEES, rather then EMPLOYERS .these people are not only directing,but actually DISCIPLINING,drivers who are supposly self employed
Jaysus ! Relax DM, The one good thing about Irish Taxi radio bases is that they are Non-compulsory, as in if'n you don't like them, then you don't have to join them, the App's are the same, take em or leave em !
Why are you so concerned about other peoples problems ?
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Its very simple why im concerned Ken .you saidi.ts not compulsory to join,but because of drivers ongoing desire to be aligned, particularly with mytaxi,its now considered to be the norm both by customers,and NTA alike.this has effectively taken away my right to continue to operate independently.in other words now that the govt have seen such a willingness by drivers to align,they will make it compulsory for new entrants,and possibly old timers as well
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Its very simple why im concerned Ken .you saidi.ts not compulsory to join,but because of drivers ongoing desire to be aligned, particularly with mytaxi,its now considered to be the norm both by customers,and NTA alike.this has effectively taken away my right to continue to operate independently.in other words now that the govt have seen such a willingness by drivers to align,they will make it compulsory for new entrants,and possibly old timers as well
Ah ! Your taking the Piss now DM, neither Base radios's nor App's are compulsory and no where have I ever seen that they might be in the future.
No one has taken away your right to do anything.
Will you be working tonight under your own steam ? There ya go, there's your answer !
Relax DM, your seeing problems that aren't really there ! Chill !!
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Dont be so sure Belker .The Review said the Minister wanted ALL drivers aligned and cashless in time .
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Dont be so sure Belker .The Review said the Minister wanted ALL drivers aligned and cashless in time .
Yep they will be called robots
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Dont be so sure Belker .The Review said the Minister wanted ALL drivers aligned and cashless in time .
'In Time' meaning long after I'm dead, Good Luck to em !
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Dont be so sure Belker .The Review said the Minister wanted ALL drivers aligned and cashless in time .
My wife and kids want me to be cashless
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Dont be so sure Belker .The Review said the Minister wanted ALL drivers aligned and cashless in time .
My wife and kids want me to be cashless
Keep posting here so..... lol lol
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Dont be so sure Belker .The Review said the Minister wanted ALL drivers aligned and cashless in time .
'In Time' meaning long after I'm dead, Good Luck to em !
Does it Ken .What % of bets are placed on line and what% were placed on line 10 years ago ?Remember the tech is now developed for cashless
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Dont be so sure Belker .The Review said the Minister wanted ALL drivers aligned and cashless in time .
My wife and kids want me to be cashless
So did mine ! She Won !! rofl
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Dont be so sure Belker .The Review said the Minister wanted ALL drivers aligned and cashless in time .
'In Time' meaning long after I'm dead, Good Luck to em !
Does it Ken .What % of bets are placed on line and what% were placed on line 10 years ago ?Remember the tech is now developed for cashless
At a guess 10 years back about 5%, today about 75%.
Gambling is a Strange world, everything is done in secret
and the phone app now allows it to be kept a secret !
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Ken you say nowhere have you seen it that becoming aligned will be compulsory ? Well I can tell you Alan Kelly expressed his desire to me one day at a meeting in the dept of transport have us all aligned .my response was toto advise hin that if such a ruling ever became mandatory,that I would go around the country and ask all independent drivers to robustly oppose this through ongoing protest action.my position has not changed
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DM, isn’t a shop keeper self employed? Then they might decide to trade under a franchise(Spar, Centra, Mace etc etc) and wear uniforms, sell that’s brands products etc etc etc. Is that shopkeeper still self employed??
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My understanding is,that the retailers (shop keepers) collectively decide on group policy,and advise the brand accordingly.not the tail wagging the dog so to speak
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That might be the case but they still have to wear branded clothing, sell that brands products or face consequences which ultimately could mean the franchise agreement being broken and the shop not being that branded shop anymore.
So kinda similar to a radio company, if you wan5 to sign up there is “the companies” terms and conditions, if you don’t like them don’t sign up.
I’m self employed, I use apps to get work as it’s benficial and that’s the way customers get taxis. Very few people flag on the street, and when they do it’s probably because they are banned from an app, too pissed to operate their phone to get a taxi, or lost their phone or that the app isn’t working and can’t find them a taxi.
The Irish people are lazy, we want everything to come to us, even McDonalds deliver food now ffs
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My understanding is,that the retailers (shop keepers) collectively decide on group policy,and advise the brand accordingly.not the tail wagging the dog so to speak
The shopkeeper if they decide to put a sign up for Spar/Centra/Daybreak etc must buy a certain % of their takings off the said provider.
They are still "Self Employed" or an employee of their own company.
At the end of the day if they don't want to brand up they can tell Mr Spar etc to Fcuk off.
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My understanding is,that the retailers (shop keepers) collectively decide on group policy,and advise the brand accordingly.not the tail wagging the dog so to speak
Same as filling stations....step out of line and you'll have your collar felt sharpish. The Franchise calls the shots......they're ruthless.
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Ken you say nowhere have you seen it that becoming aligned will be compulsory ? Well I can tell you Alan Kelly expressed his desire to me one day at a meeting in the dept of transport have us all aligned .my response was toto advise hin that if such a ruling ever became mandatory,that I would go around the country and ask all independent drivers to robustly oppose this through ongoing protest action.my position has not changed
Jaysus ! Your a terrible 'Reds under the Bed' man DM, I would rather wait fer problems to arise rather than worry too much about what might happen in the distant future.
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I prefere to nib it in the bud
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I prefere to nib it in the bud
I totally agree, but their is No Bud even showing yet !!
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Should you not be in Dalymount right now Dalymount ?
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I am but I just thought id answer ya while at the match .anyhow no score yet
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I am but I just thought id answer ya while at the match .anyhow no score yet
Dundalk and Sham Rvs both a goal up, yiz need to get a goal soon !
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Nice One DM, Bohs 1 up, Sham Rvs 1-1.