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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: john m on May 07, 2019, 05:54:39 pm
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The estimated cost to the Exchequer of the National Broadband Plan increased from €1bn to €3bn between December 2015 and April 2018, according to new information about the tendering process from the Department of Communications.
The final figure was crystalised following more than 400 meetings between senior officials with potential bidders regarding the level of market risk they would be prepared to take and the amount of money they would invest.
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Maybe they're like Ryanair, overestimating how long flights will take so they can pretend they arrive ahead of schedule?
Maybe the real cost is 2bn so if they say 3bn, they can claim victory if the cost comes in at 2bn?
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The originalcost was 500million .By the time they install this it willbe obsolete .Its just a vote getter for rednecks .Farmers say they need it for business .Wait till the cow is chipped and how much milk it gives or how much he sells for is all recorded .Watched a programme from New Zealand where cattle dont get sold at marts but on line the animals passport records its weight and vet records or milk yield then you post a picture or video and the cow is auctioned and picked up by cow taxi .Im sure Paddy the farmer willbe delighted when every penny he earns is recorder .
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https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/adrian-weckler-the-four-biggest-complaints-about-the-national-broadband-plan-38077476.html (https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/adrian-weckler-the-four-biggest-complaints-about-the-national-broadband-plan-38077476.html)
This article explains some of the background. He doesn't come to a conclusion whether it's good value or not. But he does say it is worth doing because it'll future-proof the country.
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Eileen will get her pension ,dole ,deserted wives and pay for everything by swiping a card .If her expenditure exceeds her earnings then revenue will know and you will get taxed on the excess and asked to explain where you got the extra .Futureproofing me bollox .I asked a girl recently how much MONEY she earns she said 2200 a month I asked do you get paid in 50s or 20s she said its paid into her bank .So I said you never got any MONEY for working what you get is tradeable tokens and you are now going to give me some of your tradeable tokens for a lift .If you want money you need to go to an ATM and pay some of your tokens to the bank to give you some money .Before driverless cars or UBER rideshare we willbe a cashless society .The bot will monitir all your spending but first we allneed to be connected .BROADBAND FOR ALL .
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If broadband gets total rural coverage, then most likely all Taxies will then be required to have CC facilities.
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If broadband gets total rural coverage, then most likely all Taxies will then be required to have CC facilities.
of course they will .Picked up a fella from Power Tower he said over 70% of Powers business is now done on line but he said their takings are down 12% due to competition from other on line bookies .Punters are shopping around for value there is no brand loyalty .If what he says is right then Powers Share price should drop especially now they reduced the payout on Slot machines in bookies Im sure Powers have big mortgages and leases in the UK that are killing them .Tech will kill the cash economy .
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Ah God be with the days we done all this crap the conventional way.I remember being up on a pole years ago out in straffen in Kildare.I was up doing some work on a distribution box on the pole .belt belt secured to both me,and the pole.to this day,I will never forget how lucky I was,the fukking pole broke at the butt.it was marked suspect ,but I didnt see it.down I came,with the pole in tow.the last lad it happened to was killed before he even hit the ground.that gives you some idea how lucky I was
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Ah God be with the days we done all this crap the conventional way.I remember being up on a pole years ago out in straffen in Kildare.I was up doing some work on a distribution box on the pole .belt belt secured to both me,and the pole.to this day,I will never forget how lucky I was,the fukking pole broke at the butt.it was marked suspect ,but I didnt see it.down I came,with the pole in tow.the last lad it happened to was killed before he even hit the ground.that gives you some idea how lucky I was
Now they employ Poles to do it.
Faster and cheaper!! 8)
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There’s only a handful of reasons for national broadband, and one of them is to cope with the increase in card payments. Every terminal needs a phone line or internet connection. More card payments means more terminals which means more phone lines or internet connections
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Was out doin the shopping today(wifey working fulltime has its downside....i'd feel guilty making her go after work) in Aldi...and i was observing the tills and everyone..except me...paid by cash.
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Ah God be with the days we done all this crap the conventional way.I remember being up on a pole years ago out in straffen in Kildare.I was up doing some work on a distribution box on the pole .belt belt secured to both me,and the pole.to this day,I will never forget how lucky I was,the fukking pole broke at the butt.it was marked suspect ,but I didnt see it.down I came,with the pole in tow.the last lad it happened to was killed before he even hit the ground.that gives you some idea how lucky I was
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There are several dodgy references in that post....
I quote "
" i remember being up the pole "
" belt secured to both me an the pole "
" the fukin pole broke at the butt "
" i was doin some work on the poles box"
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Yes indeed ocky,I see what you mean.it was an unfortunate description of events long ago during my eircom working life
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Ocky I also remember some years ago describing to some friends a job I was doing in a house in ballyfermot.it invokved fitting additional connection points.I told the people I was with that I had given the auld lady one in the hall,and one in the bedroom.they were pissing themselves laughing,and I couldn't figure out why,till later
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Yes indeed ocky,I see what you mean.it was an unfortunate description of events long ago during my eircom working life
Did you work for semi state Azwell daily?
Ahh the good old days....
The sense of belonging an camaraderie
The treble time on bank holiers... The pension.....yer boss.. who was always a thick nephew of some politicians...
The 3 hour lunch break....
Ah God be wit the days
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Ocky I also remember some years ago describing to some friends a job I was doing in a house in ballyfermot.it invokved fitting additional connection points.I told the people I was with that I had given the auld lady one in the hall,and one in the bedroom.they were pissing themselves laughing,and I couldn't figure out why,till later
rofl
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Yes were you also there ? Started when it was the dept of Pand T later to become telecom Eireann,then eircom,and now eir.I left in 2004when did you go ?
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Dalyer, fair play to you...another man who only needs to work to get out of the gaff......you must be on 40k p.a. pension and you're on here giving about "your industry" being sold down the swannee....congrats by the way........ lol. You've gone way up in my estimations...
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Congrats on what lippy ?
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Being smart enough to know this is a part-time gig and for having a good job prior to taking up said part-time gig....
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Hmmm... I've posted up the costs of running a cheap taxi.It's not a part-time gig by any means.I don't believe it's viable as a weekender anymore.Anyone who says it is is spoofing or really bad at basic maths.Too many bullshitters on here LL muddying the water.
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Depends how up your neck you are in debt really......some need to earn a serious amount of dough to keep afloat.......any man with a pension wouldn't be in that position for obvious reasons....age, for one; possible large lump sum on discharge to halve remaining mortgage......Most lads here seem to be able to while away several hours a day telling everyone how difficult it is to earn a crust, whilst later posting that the "bad times will come again". All very confusing but understandable if you consider the angle they might have. Part-time doesn't necessarily mean double-jobbing.......I'd say there's a few here with zero mortgage repayments etc....
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I wish it became much more expensive to run a taxi,becauseif it did,then the double jobbing scum might consider their position and wether or not its worth it I believe it could be made into a very good,and profitable job if there was a willingness to do so by both the currentpole legally compliant drivers,and the authorities who govern the industry
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Even 3 or 4 grand p.a. insurance is no deterrent to a man/woman with a good pension.....cost them that for golf club membership with no earning power at the end of it. 10 grand entry fee insurance wouldn't eat into a lump sum too much either...........it doesn't take long to come down afterwards.
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It's easy to make money now but even with fewer drivers it will get tougher when things slow down as our expenses have never been so high since deregulation.It's one thing buying a nice car because you want to but now you have to buy a newer motor because you have to.
The pensioned lads won't like paying 50% tax on their app/card earnings as cash work disappears.Already happening on the day shift.At least a couple of times a shift someone is at the rank looking for a driver who takes card.Interesting times ahead.Only a matter of time before it becomes compulsory.The twenty-somethings don't carry cash.
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Agree there about the cashless thingy. However, there'll be plenty hoping there's an amnesty coming for back-dated payments....most of them won't be part-timers. The cashless society has plenty of surprises in store for everyone......anyone buying gargle or smokes in the shop...anyone who likes a flutter......anyone who likes Double Whoppers etc etc. We'll all have to become trans-human.......... C:-)
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Yis have only tourselves to blame for going. cashless..its like I always said the bastard radio companies sowed thar seed in the minds of people,in the same way those scumbags int, roduced discounts ALL AT YOUR EXPENSE.the one thing drivers keep forgetting is,if yoy dont operate these changes,and discounts,etc there is nothing the cunts can do about it
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Daly the NTA can easily make it mandatory for us to accept cards.It's the number one complaint I get in the car.I like to go our for a few pints and loadsa younger folks don't bring any cash into the pub.They probably wouldn't be able to count their change if they had to.
The main problem we have is we have no good excuse for not accepting cards.Just saying we don't want to isn't acceptable anymore and just makes ot sound like we don't wanna pay any tax..The only thing worse than paying loadsa tax is listening to some taxi driver who doesn't pay very much whining about card payments.
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Not only is your tax affected,but you are losing a fortune on lost tips as well.I dont accept your point about the NTA making it compulsory,the same way as I dont accept a need for dispatchers.if you have100% of drivers to accept cards,there is fukk all they can do about it. What are they goi g to do stop the whole industry from operating ? Dont forget in every situation regarding the taxi industry,WE hold all the aces our strength is our numbers,but taxi drivers seem to keel over at the first sign of trouble from the NTA
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I don't like the idea either but they could in theory not renew yer PSV or pass out yer heap if it doesn't have the required equipment to accept cords.If you have refused x amount of card jobs they could call ya in and confiscate yer PSV badge and yer rape whistle.
Or more likely in an effort to detect tax evasion and illegal Pakis sending money to ISIS Revenue might not renew yer tax clearance if you haven't signed up to accept cord payments.Many ways to go about it.
Ya could also make the argument that Hailo/mytaxi would not be as successful if we were all offering card facilities.I'm sure you've seen passengers using the app right beside the ranks. They're just people who wanna pay by card.
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Ok lets say all the drivers go with what I propose and refuse to operate card facilities.now lets say the NTA and revenue take the action you describe.result taxi industry gone over night.now do you think the public would accept that ? Not to mention the money the NTA would loose.I think they would not be long recognizing their mistake.in every circumstances in this industry,the drivers hold all the aces,but unfortunately they dont seen to know that
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Cop your self to fuck on Dollymount .You controle fuck all you are licenced and if they say you need to accept credit cards or they want to read the meter thats exactly what will happen .We are waged slaves and every passenger owns you for the duration of the trip .
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We are the many,not the few,and in such circumstances we should be calling the shots.this is a classic case of the tail wagging the dog.when will drivers learn that through our sheer numbers alone,we hold the ballance of power yet we willingly give that power away to less important operators in the industry like dispatchers unlike many parts of northern Ireland,there is no legal obligation on us to align to one of these companies,yet not only do we give up that right,but we allow these scumbags to treat us like employees when in gact we are THEIR employers
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Congrats on what lippy ?
A mate of mine took a great redundancy package from Eircom, together with his shares, and he was only a ganger
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No more big payoffs or pensions Paggo Vlad the Bugger just agreed to write a blank check for broadband add that to the Kids hospital then add in doctors and nurses wages to run the hospital.We will live to regret both these projects all to get a Gay Fucktard re elected .The most expensive hospital in the world and the most expensive broadband connections thats if people actually want to pay for a connection .
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Cop your self to fuck on Dollymount .You controle fuck all you are licenced and if they say you need to accept credit cards or they want to read the meter thats exactly what will happen .We are waged slaves and every passenger owns you for the duration of the trip .
I gotta agree with John on this one Dalymount, granted we do hold the power but there is no unity in the Taxi industry, we are all sole traders. Maybe we might unite if a very serious problem like uber rears it's ugly head, but fer Mickey Mouse issues like CC facilities and county stickers, I and I'm guessing the majority of the fleet couldn't give a Fiddlers !
I take card payments all the time, no problem. The reason CC payments are not compulsory from the NTA is because some rural areas do not have internet access, so if you take a fare to Ballygobackwards with no internet access then you cannot process the payment, when the rural broadband plan is finished then most likely the NTA will make CC facilities in all cabs compulsory.
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No more big payoffs or pensions Paggo Vlad the Bugger just agreed to write a blank check for broadband add that to the Kids hospital then add in doctors and nurses wages to run the hospital.We will live to regret both these projects all to get a Gay Fucktard re elected .The most expensive hospital in the world and the most expensive broadband connections thats if people actually want to pay for a connection .
I was kinda wondering about who was going to be paying the 3B bill, my broadband costs me a Euro a day, it's gonna take a whole heap of rural Euro's to make up the 3B !
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its 5k just to bring it to the door but what % od homes will want a connection.The government have guarenteed the investors a return just like the investors in toll roads that nobody uses .By 2030 the basic tax rate in Ireland will increase to 30%. To counter environmental concerns you can expect an increase in duty .A lot of you were not around in the 70s when most people were paying 50% on earnings over £12000 .Any economist worth their Phd can see we are heading for bankrupcy and the next time banks fail just like Cypress the government will bail in your savings and private pensions .ERSI say Irish groath next year will be 3.8% we need 4% just to stand still and pay our creditors .Then add in the UK leave the EU so we must pay more .
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John I will NEVER agree with you .I do agree with belker however,the only reason we dont call the shots,and make the rules is because there is no unity.im afraid my days in the industry are numbered becaise I will NEVER align myself with a dispatcher.,or offer cc facilities
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With gender fluidity it won't be long before a bloke can be up the pole, I guess. An acquaintance of mine was employed by Telecom Eireann for years. He started when it was the P&T and Govt used the semi-states to occupy unemployable wasters and manipulate the economy through circulation of money. He never worked a day in his post apprenticeship life, all he had to do was collect a van of a Monday and return it when collecting his wages of a Friday. In his "spare" time he ran an antiques shop up above in Dublin. In fact, he got away with that routine right up until it was branded Eircom... then one day he was told he had to take a working job with Phonewatch or take the lump... he actually did both, worked for Phonewatch for a while and took the lump when the novelty wore off. It's a great little country!
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Them days are long gone now rat,when I was there we were responsible for providing a line to the subscriber from the exchange to the house .very often there would be quite a lot of work in bwtween which could involve overhead work,or under ground work or both .then you had to fiit the instrument in the customers premises.if it was a company you had even more work to do
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The lad above was actually in a team of two men (coincidentally, the other drives a cab) that was never allocated any work. It actually fell apart for them when they returned the van one Friday and didn't get a payslip (and no money in the bank as was the routine at that time)... someone had changed something somewhere and the resulting enquiries led to some managerial cunt who gave a fuck asking what the fuck they do and calling them in with union reps for the ultimatum i.e. transfer to Phonewatch to work or take the lump. I remember passing his antiques shop once and he had the cones out behind the van to load/unload stock, that's all the van was used for!
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John I will NEVER agree with you .I do agree with belker however,the only reason we dont call the shots,and make the rules is because there is no unity.im afraid my days in the industry are numbered becaise I will NEVER align myself with a dispatcher.,or offer cc facilities
Dispatcher problems I can see, you have your issues there DM and I respect them, but CC facilities ? Where is the problem there ?
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Folk had no problem handing over used notes until Hail0/mytaxi came along. We are and should remain to be entitled to legal tender.
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Folk had no problem handing over used notes until Hail0/mytaxi came along. We are and should remain to be entitled to legal tender.
You're forgetting all the account jobs ropey cab companies had.
You could write anything on the docket because in the main the tax payer footed the bill, and the passenger cared not a jot.
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I dont agree with you rat,the cab companies went down the road of offering cc facilities long before hoilo/mytaxi even came here
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I dont agree with you rat,the cab companies went down the road of offering cc facilities long before hoilo/mytaxi even came here
Spot on.
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I dont agree with you rat,the cab companies went down the road of offering cc facilities long before hoilo/mytaxi even came here
And started offering discounts on drivers behalf aswell before Hailo arrived.
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It only took a few days .Cost of Broadband is now 5 BILLION according to the Irish Times .
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All part of the controlled opposition to roll out 5G nationwide.....we'll have gender neutral dogs and cats within 3 months of the roll-out.
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All part of the controlled opposition to roll out 5G nationwide.....we'll have gender neutral dogs and cats within 3 months of the roll-out.
5 Billion on a tec that will be out of date by the time its installed .How many people have landlines for their phone .I sort of agree with you on Radio waves since we got mobile Phones the amount of Autistic Boys has soared .Micro waves and radio waves are messing up our DNA .
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I'm not saying it....the countries who have banned it are...........Israel (inventors of battlefield radiation). Interestingly, the bureaucrats in Brussels have chosen to exclude it from Belgium. There's an App called Architecture of Radio which can show you the waves in your room.....
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Your right about Isreal lippy,they are big into communications gadgets.we used to use a box on the poles in eircom called a carrierI .this was used where there was not enough lines on the pole to supply the demand.the carrier enabled us to split the line in two and provide for both costomers this carrier was made in isreal also
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Your right about Isreal lippy,they are big into communications gadgets.we used to use a box on the poles in eircom called a carrierI .this was used where there was not enough lines on the pole to supply the demand.the carrier enabled us to split the line in two and provide for both costomers this carrier was made in isreal also
DM would that have been a Carrier Pigeon ?
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It'll all end in tears....ours,
Highly educated people in power spending tax payers money....badly......that's the only Ireland i've ever known.
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Works out at 10,000 per connection but how many of those gaffs will actually want broadband ?
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Works out at 10,000 per connection but how many of those gaffs will actually want broadband ?
Some of the cnuts probably don't have electricity
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You know this is a timebomb when The Minister is not in the Dailto take questions and they roll out Covney to have his back .Between the Kids Hospital ,Broadband and Brexit expect tobe paying 40% basic income tax by 2025 .If the Brits leave then the French Nazi will fuck our Sodomite hard but not in the way he likes it .The 12% corporate tax rate willbe gone and so will the Big Tec firms .
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You know this is a timebomb when The Minister is not in the Dailto take questions and they roll out Covney to have his back .Between the Kids Hospital ,Broadband and Brexit expect tobe paying 40% basic income tax by 2025 .If the Brits leave then the French Nazi will fuck our Sodomite hard but not in the way he likes it .The 12% corporate tax rate willbe gone and so will the Big Tec firms .
You're quite the visual artist John....you've just described the 80's....as i remember it...with my rose tinted glasses!!
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You know this is a timebomb when The Minister is not in the Dailto take questions and they roll out Covney to have his back .Between the Kids Hospital ,Broadband and Brexit expect tobe paying 40% basic income tax by 2025 .If the Brits leave then the French Nazi will fuck our Sodomite hard but not in the way he likes it .The 12% corporate tax rate willbe gone and so will the Big Tec firms .
You're quite the visual artist John....you've just described the 80's....as i remember it...with my rose tinted glasses!!
Yep we seen it allbefore (Elections ) before FF built pay as you gomotorways nobody uses and promised the builders a guarenteed return on their investment .I drove over from Waterford to Greystones one day and I was the only car on the Road .These cunts can spend all they want but remember we voted on the fiscal treaty and are limited to our deficites so if we need money it has to come from tax we cannot borrow it .
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The culchies won't be liking it when Facebook or snapcat or Microsoft tries to build a giant data center beside their lovely mansions when the broadband speeds ramp up.
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The Culchies wont be in the Country there are fuck all jobs and the ones left behind wont be able to afford the Broadband on their Dole payments .
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The Rural's don't know how good they have it by Not having broadband.
They should have a look at Irish city life before making their decision, the majority of adults up to Fifty are Phone Zombies, 100% of Teen-agers are Phone Zombies and the under teens are some what controlled by their Phone Zombie parents, but mostly not.
Whom amongst us has recently seen Boys kicking Ball out on the road or Girls skipping rope ?
Does anyone remember the Hopscotch scribbling all over the footpath in every city street ?
'Penny' Poker under the lamp-post ?
And the odd peek at Playboy or Hustler if some one robbed it from his Da !
Today's kids have on-line Porn 24/7,
Access to on-line gambling sites 24/7,
And chat bullshite/bully 24/7 on-line with very few restrictions.