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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Rat Catcher on August 11, 2019, 11:48:46 am
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Who's in charge of the taxi industry?
Mytaxi or the nta?
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Good question Octy....obviously the more drivers FN capture the better....for them!!
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Does anybody remember yer man on Roys told you all this would happen !
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It's not really a surprise.Ebbs is doing something similar.And I'm sure I recall someone saying Vinny had some sort of relationship with the training schools off Mount Street.What do yis expect when all the taxi companies are run by ex taxi drivers, many of the renters are lads who used to drive too and couldn't hack it.Just lube up and take what's coming.
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The down side will be the up side.Halloween and everything could change overnight .Brexit will hit .Prices will shoot up ,less disposable cash so less wages for us .Higher costs and less return will force a lot of renters to hand back the keys and lads wont pony up 12% commission out of less .
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Well well well the chickens are finally coming home to roust. How many times have I said on here about dispatchers.YOU ARE GIVING THEM CONTROL IF YOUR INDUSTRY.
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I think you have a short memory.Back during the bad years there were lots of rejects driving rentals from other industries.Tradesmen, labourers ,truck drivers, coach drivers.Plenty of lads like me who saw the opportunity to work as much as you needed to pay the bills.
Only thing in our favour is the taxi test.It's probably been made too easy but it will still need some study to pass.Unlike the previous Garda exam.If that gets made any easier you'll see a big increase in new drivers.At the moment it's still only a trickle.
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Merc I dont think people really understand the Effect of a no deal Brexit .It will make 2008 look like a late payment .I did back of the Envelope stuff 40,000 jobs gone most of them low paid restaurant factory jobs .You can expect taxi work to seriously contract 20 to 30% .It simply wont be viable to rent cover costs and 12% commission .And this wont just last a few years .The BIG issue nobody in Irish Politics has mentioned .The EU works on Qualified Majority voting so the 50 odd seats that Britain have in the European Parliament willbe distributed among the other 27 France and Germany get most of them so it is easier for themto get qualified majority .They will use this bring in a Universal Corporate tax this will have a big impact on FDIs so more long term job losses .The future for this industry is about half the fleet we have now .First men out will be the ones with the largest overheads .Long term Metaxi might own a fleet paying drivers a % of earnings in return for driving their vehicles .Independent taxi drivers will die out just like owner trainers in the horseracing business forced out by the big owners like O Briens and Mullins set ups .We saw it with the bookies industry as well .All the little one or two shop guys are gone replaced by Powers ,Ladbrokes and boyles .Its just the evolution of business .
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I cannot believe not what I'm reading. They are actually asking YOU to go out and recruit drivers to compete against yourselves, and. The unbelievable thing is, there are actually drivers out there who will do it
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If we just forget Brexit and assume there will be a downturn all them coach drivers and other lads I mentioned will be making a beeline into the taxi industry.We should be trying to get the SPSV pass rate back to 80% to cover our holes.That and the ten/fifteen year rule is the only thing keeping us from earning a tenner an hour again.Although last week I had a few hours like that so it could still just turn to shit.
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I blame Mrs Brown's boys.
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Merc a tenner an hour will be the norm .Now take your costs out of that .The taxi industry is not viable this time round a 5 or 6 thousand new plates since the shit collided last time .Lads will stay on the dole this time to keep medical cards HAP other welfare payments .As I said before Brexit will knock us back to the 70s hand me down clothes and visiting your granny to get fed.
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I'm gonna save for another motor and hopefully 18 months from now things will be a bit clearer.I don't wanna be spending anything on this job unless the NTA are gonna keep the other useless fuckers our of the industry.Too many hours to break even if/when things turn to shit.I'll buy a van and go on the dole.
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Can drivers not see the writing on the wall ? Because there is a desire by drivers who are hell bent on giving control of your industry over to dispatchers, the liklehood is that the government will make this a compulsory requirement for all future, and existing deivers now let's say 2 years from now, we hit a recession and there is a very limited amount of work for drivers. At this stage , you have to remain aligned to Kearns, Kelly or Ebbs because that is the condition on which you agreed now bearing in mind there is barely enough work to sustain a few hundred drivers, YOU ARE STILL CONNITED TO PAYING THESE CUTE HOORS their extortionate weekly doury. you will have nobody to blame when your on your knees because YOU GAVE CONTROL TO ABSOLUTE SCUMBAGS. who have rode you, and continue to do so. I can not believe drivers have not got the vision to see the harm they are doing to their own industry by giving up a right to operate independently, in favour of compulsory alignment . The same applys to the app you might think things are great now, but I gaurentee you you will regret the day you gave up control of your industry. Mark my words I urge you to drop dispatchers now before it's to late.
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The genie is out of the bottle. Apps are here to stay. People have gotten too used to pressing a button and a taxi turning up outside.
E.g. Got 2 young fellas today (probably street drug dealers) get a FN from their house to the off-licence AND back with their drink. The off-licence did home-delivery. But no. They paid me e11 to drive them 2 streets and back. e7 before I moved an inch.
E.g. Got 4 people get a FN from (let's say) Dominic St to The Chancery pub - e11. Meter was e9 before I moved. Told them there was no early house on a Sunday but no. It was on 'the card' so, in their heads, they didn't really spend any money.
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We have to adapt to the times. More and more people don't carry cash - they pay with their phones or their watches!
Standing on the side of the street with your hand out is getting less and less.
Got stopped by hotel staff driving by a City hotel - do you take cards? I do! (sumup) Will you take these 2 Americans to the airport? Yes, I will :D
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Watty I hear ya, but I don't agree with ya. In the same way as DRIVERS provide the facility of offering card payment, and app service , DRIVERS can also take it away. I just wish someone could explain to me why Irish taxi drivers want to drop control of their industry like a hot potatoe, and give it over to scumbags like Kearns Kelly, and Ebbs to run. I can't wait for the day it becomes compulsory to join one of these, and the work dries up . Drivers will still have to find 100 plus a week with little, or no work being offered, and it will all be thier own fault .
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The fact that F/N and Kearns Ebbs, etc are asking you to go out and recruit new drivers so that they can compete with you and further diminish your earnings shows the level of intelligence with which these people accredit you, and the fact that some drivers will actually do it confirms their assessment of some was right
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I've been at this 12 years. I was never with a cab company, only got sumup maybe 1.5 years ago and FN maybe 8 months.
I held out but I was losing fares when people asked if I took cards. So Sumup.
I used to laugh when I'd see the odd person standing at the side of road looking at their phone, looking at me, looking at their phone as I drove by. I was looking at them, thinking 'you sucker, you coulda got me'
But as it happened more and more, I realised I was the sucker, the King Cnut trying to stop the waves coming in, and I joined FN.
I use it to my advantage - often you can see the destination and then you can reject it if you want. I barely make 'bronze' (the lowest level) each week so I'm not a fanboy. I still do street-hails. Work smart, not hard!
If 'almost' everybody moves to FN and I don't like it, there'll always be a niche for those who want to street-hail, pay cash, be anonymous or whatever.
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I've been at this 12 years. I was never with a cab company, only got sumup maybe 1.5 years ago and FN maybe 8 months.
I held out but I was losing fares when people asked if I took cards. So Sumup.
I used to laugh when I'd see the odd person standing at the side of road looking at their phone, looking at me, looking at their phone as I drove by. I was looking at them, thinking 'you sucker, you coulda got me'
But as it happened more and more, I realised I was the sucker, the King Cnut trying to stop the waves coming in, and I joined FN.
I use it to my advantage - often you can see the destination and then you can reject it if you want. I barely make 'bronze' (the lowest level) each week so I'm not a fanboy. I still do street-hails. Work smart, not hard!
If 'almost' everybody moves to FN and I don't like it, there'll always be a niche for those who want to street-hail, pay cash, be anonymous or whatever.
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Watty the point I am continuesly trying to make is, you have the luxury of doing street hails now, but believe me in the not to distant future you may not have that luxury anymore. When F/Nget TOTAL control of the Irish taxi industry, they will have us ALL by the bollox. Once they get control they will have the ear of the government, añd they will insist on compulsory alignment. They will also stop you doing street work just like it is in northern Ireland, you can only do dispatchers work. You will do what your told , and be glad of it you will become their property. The government will readly agree to all this , because former minister Kelly always said he wanted all drivers aligned , and also operating cashless. The reason they will agree is the tax man will now know what you had for your breakfast your already loosing out massively on tips, and who's fault is all this ? THE DRIVERS WHO HANDED IT TO DISPATCHERS ON A PLATE
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Dalymount we lost this industry the day we accepted the review .Its a pity Roys is closed as I warned against all the shit we have now and the big 3 have not come to fruition yet .Read the review and the actions .We were all to accept credit cards ,We were all to align with a dispatcher .We were to embrace off street ranking .When there are restrictions to roaduse all over the city like College Gate you will have metaxi ranking in off street carparks where customers willwalk in and hail just like the airport pick up zone .We will be a cashless society long before I retire .Kelly is a tech head he knew all about apps ,we should of suggested that the taxithingey ran an app but the idiots in the repbodies only saw this as a way for the taxi reg to know your earnings .If I was a betting man I would say the next move from metaxi will be on health and safety they will call for restricted working hours and say only an app can regulate your working hours .Just like a tacko in a truck .I could forsee every move they made because its how I would of moved if I wanted to take over the industry .
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Wonder why my taxi changed thr name....
Is it cause of the recent ruling in England and places in American that uber had give employment rights to the drivers? An are they wiping the slate clean so to speak on thr history in case of any European ruling...,?
I know most of here are semi retired and taxi driving is just a way of life... But
I do feel sorry for the poor cnuts paying
Gazillionions for new wav and gazillions for insurance.... Yung kids and mortgacges...
Do yu remember yur woman doyle or sumtin crying on the telly wen all the blokes wer jumping out of attics.... Did they not learn anything or give a fuk about people and ther families?
Yid think they cared more for big business and multinationals now than the people.....
But that's just me being a silly cnut...
Of course it would be much cheaper to hand it all to myjaxi and verooka wouldn't get blamed wen the mother of all great depressions comes in the not too distant future wen the world Ponzi banking system collapzes again..... And the cranes come down again, the race horses end up in lidls beef pies, the families court is bulging wit salivating solicitors like vultures to the corpse of a love that flew out the window of a skyscraper to the mercy of the wind and gravity an a trail of fluttering unpaid bills falling after it like brown leaves the colour of gick
https://youtu.be/gHxi-HSgNPc
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Oci We need to diversify add value to what we offer play on our strenghts .I wont post how here but I have a few ideas if there were half a dozen players .Big Dommos Sisters best mate and her sister worked as Whores back in the 70s but then the good looking eastern europeans came in and took their work just like metaxi .but the girls hit back they decided that Blowjobs .wanks and a bit of missionary was not what the customer wanted so they diversified still whores but a bit more specialised .The taxi business hasent changed since Barney Spurlock gave Jack The Ripper a lift home to Hackney .
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John I agree with almost everything you said I your previous post, but one thing I STILL maintain is the main players in this industry is the drivers, and to that end we call the shots I seen a few protests in the past from taxi drivers about different things the longest lasted 1 fukjin day the government know taxi drivers ha can e no balls that any protest will be over in a matter of hours. I will NEVER understand why taxi drivers don't realize the power they have through where numbers alone. I remember us all in O Connelly at praising Frank Byrne and his colleagues now I ask myself for what ? They achieved fukk all
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Can drivers not see the writing on the wall ? Because there is a desire by drivers who are hell bent on giving control of your industry over to dispatchers, the liklehood is that the government will make this a compulsory requirement for all future, and existing deivers now let's say 2 years from now, we hit a recession and there is a very limited amount of work for drivers. At this stage , you have to remain aligned to Kearns, Kelly or Ebbs because that is the condition on which you agreed now bearing in mind there is barely enough work to sustain a few hundred drivers, YOU ARE STILL CONNITED TO PAYING THESE CUTE HOORS their extortionate weekly doury. you will have nobody to blame when your on your knees because YOU GAVE CONTROL TO ABSOLUTE SCUMBAGS. who have rode you, and continue to do so. I can not believe drivers have not got the vision to see the harm they are doing to their own industry by giving up a right to operate independently, in favour of compulsory alignment . The same applys to the app you might think things are great now, but I gaurentee you you will regret the day you gave up control of your industry. Mark my words I urge you to drop dispatchers now before it's to late.
DM , I have to say I agree but unfortunately home many of the Dublin Taxi are reading this or are getting an insight into what is going on ?
Not a lot so unfortunately you/we are very much in the minority
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Btw John, I sé the great compromise is on Leo has Sent for Boris for a meeting about brexit. Did I not predict this would happen ??
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Btw John, I sé the great compromise is on Leo has Sent for Boris for a meeting about brexit. Did I not predict this would happen ??
Just Leo trying to save his life from the Republican assassins gun You still dont get it the EU CANNOT bow to the CROWN Boris is also playing Politics go home and say the Half Breed Queer was not for listening .Once again Leo not understanding Politics .He should let Boris boil in his own piss .Boris returns to London says the IRISH are acting the CUNT why Leo gives him the balls to fire .The Irish community in Britain will get it in the neckwhen Britain erupts in violence .EXODUS wont just be a story of Jews but the Irish will be forced out of Britain after Brexit .You still think The UK are worth a wank they are not the EU thinks they are just mouthy spunk monkies .Britain have two choices Crash out or eat shit .
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Well the way I see it is, Leo is after being told by Brussels to make a deal with Boris your right insofar as the EU cannot be seen to concede, but Leo can concede under instruction from the EU. That way the EU saves face claiming it wasn't us that gave In to the Brits but if Ireland are ok with it then they have our blessing
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Dalymount
Dont Knock it till you tried it.
Try working with a base or FN first.
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Well the way I see it is, Leo is after being told by Brussels to make a deal with Boris your right insofar as the EU cannot be seen to concede, but Leo can concede under instruction from the EU. That way the EU saves face claiming it wasn't us that gave In to the Brits but if Ireland are ok with it then they have our blessing
it dosent work that way Dalymount The only way Leo can agree is to agree to a British isles /Ireland customs union that would place us outside of the single market .What message would that send out to Foreign Direct Investers ? Leo is only a fuck toy for Germany and France a useless fuck they will hold him down ans shit in his mouth after Brexit when they impose a universal corporate tax on us .Germany and France are after our FDI s they dont give a flying fuck about Ireland or the Peace Process its just about power .Think about it the Brits have 50 + seats in the European Parliament so that means france and germany need to use up 50 of their votes to counter the brits so it restricts them from getting a qualified majority in votes .With the Brits gone than simply means the big block dont have to waste their votes to counter the Brits but the big bonus is they also gain most of the British seats in Parliament .The effect is Germany and france now have added the 50 votes they use to waste countering Britain and the 30 plus seats they gain from Britain leaving so they are 80+ votes stronger now than they were with Britain in .Ireland .Holland ,Luxembourg and Belgium who are low life tax robbing scumbags are now fucked they cannot muster enough votes to prevent a qualified majority against anything France and Germany want .We just got raped by the big two Leo played right into their hands as he knows as much about politics as he does about the clitorous .
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Johnny... Give me a pm an I'll go to that art in kilmainham wit ya... I think there's loads parking....
The owlone next door last nite caught me
Throwing me rubbish into her bin the other nite but she didn't mind tho.... She invited me in again an told me she book the 2 of us to go to Amsterdam to see the van Goch museum and that she pay fir everything..... Fukin too right I said to her....
Anyway She said she never smoking a joint in her life and she wants to go coffee shop and have some brownies and to help her drop her inhibitions and it mite help her
Compete with any other women that mite be into Me..... And that she'll be able to satisfy all me needs and that I'll finally give in an give her a good seeing to......
Little does she knows but the love of Me life is drying out in a clinic in offaly or some kip somewhere and I'm stuck for a bit of company anyway but I'm fuked if I'm lettin her know that.....
I'm a silky cnut but nit stupit ???
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Maybe ratti will go? He'd appreciate good art alrite
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Just have a wank octy...get rid of all that pent up...whateva!
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DM, a man such as yourself, with a piercing intellect , and the financial resources to treat the biz as a hobby, must therefore have plenty of time on your hands. Here's an idea to lead drivers to your Holy Grail. Use your passion and leadership qualities to start a driver's coop and go crowdfunding for an app and marketing. You know, do it, motivate our national, and international brother drivers to see your light.
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DM, a man such as yourself, with a piercing intellect , and the financial resources to treat the biz as a hobby, must therefore have plenty of time on your hands. Here's an idea to lead drivers to your Holy Grail. Use your passion and leadership qualities to start a driver's coop and go crowdfunding for an app and marketing. You know, do it, motivate our national, and international brother drivers to see your light.
How much will that cost us? lol
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DM, a man such as yourself, with a piercing intellect , and the financial resources to treat the biz as a hobby, must therefore have plenty of time on your hands. Here's an idea to lead drivers to your Holy Grail. Use your passion and leadership qualities to start a driver's coop and go crowdfunding for an app and marketing. You know, do it, motivate our national, and international brother drivers to see your light.
How much will that cost us? lol
Drivers gave Hailo about FOURTYMILLION in good will to set up to ride them with dropping the PUC free waiting time .To seriously take on Metaxi you would need about 50 million to bribe drivers and passengers .
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Maybe ratti will go? He'd appreciate good art alrite
Go where, Octy?
I reckon I'll be in Kyles on Wednesday if you fancy a pint... haven't been there for ages.
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... but the idiots in the repbodies only saw this as a way for the taxi reg to know your earnings .
That's bollocks, erm. The reps got their "next fiver" from Hail0 dressed up as fees for advertising on their websites. When they fell out with Hail0 they thought they sold out to cab:app which I don't think went anywhere.
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I'm surprised you haven't seen the bigger picture yet, DM. Compulsory alignment has been on the table ever since the halfwits in TDFC went in and told Revenue that taximen are robbing the State blind. However, that's the least of our worries. I suggest you research Daimler/BMUUs Mobility Solutions in more detail. You ain't seen nothing yet!
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Wonder why my taxi changed thr name....
BMUU and Daimler merged their "mobility solutions"... current and future apps will all use the Now bit of Free Now...
mytaxi = Free Now
Moovel = Reach Now
Car2Go = Share Now
etc, etc...
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Rat tax assessment is only one part of the problem as I see it. In quite sure every taxi driver on here honestly declares their earnings , I certainly do anyway the my h bigger problem as I see it with compulsory alignment is we are giving total control of our industry to a bunch of scumbags who after getting control , will completely call the shots in the knowledge that anyone coming into the industry, or already in it will have to adhere to what ever rules they decide to introduce including no more street work just like most parts of the north the drivers will be to blame for this because they are not prepared to look ahead to the future to see the writing in the wall just wait till thing go bad again and there is little or no work and there is no way out for them they still have to pay their weekly freight because alignment is now compulsory
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It's a shame TDFC didn't share your faith in our honesty. After all, as a nation we are culturally a very compliant lot... from the top down. I remember having a tourist (well, I assume he was a tourist) in the car a few years back, told me about some of the blokes who served as Prime Minister (Teeshock) of his nation... one didn't have a bank account and told a judge he won his money on the horses and another failed to declare donations received in the form of huge envelopes stuffed full of used notes from an equally huge man.... then he went on about countless tribunals of enquiry uncovering systematic corruption on a nationwide scale.
However, how long do you think taxis will feature as a significant "mobility solution" within Daimler/BMUUs portfolio as it develops?
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I don't care who yu are or how many hours you do a week....... Wen you look at your earnings over your life time and all the costs and lack of benefits being self employed in this roller coaster economy ............
Every one of us is on minimum wage....
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I don't care who yu are or how many hours you do a week....... Wen you look at your earnings over your life time and all the costs and lack of benefits being self employed in this roller coaster economy ............
Every one of us is on minimum wage....
Below Minimum .Some Posters on here rant and rave about how little work some drivers do .You cannot earn enough money to retire if you cannot earn enough money to live .The secret is make your money make your money .The two biggest investments Irish working class make is their house and a bet on the lottery or ponies .I doubt there is more than 1 poster on here ever bought a share in any thing .
Working mans best investment was his home .It gave him shelter and security and in some cases it was worth what he paid for it including interest and more .As soon as working man discovered that and decided to buy a few to rent the powers that be bankrupted that revenue stream .The word is descriptive .WORKING CLASS .in other words you need to work just to exist nobody said make anything more than survive .If your kids are looking for toil get into government jobs with pensions .No need to be clever in fact it helps if your a dumb cunt that way you can cope with the tedium of paper pushing and paper clip geometry .
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Hell of a lot of Truth in what you said John. Only thing I don't understand is, when you pay off your mortgage and now the place is your right ? Wrong these robbing government bastards say you owe them property tax. What the fukk is property tax for anyway ???
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Just another tax grab Dalyer....refuse collection is privatised...water nearly was and could still be,
I still can't remember what Endas five point plan was!!
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I don't care who yu are or how many hours you do a week....... Wen you look at your earnings over your life time and all the costs and lack of benefits being self employed in this roller coaster economy ............
Every one of us is on minimum wage....
Some on below minimum wage.
Only a few drivers on here making a decent wage.
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If you have to work 60 hours a week to pull a decent wage then you've done nothing special.Try doing 60hours in Lidl or Mackers and you'd be making decent money too.Yer only kidding yerself if you think otherwise.
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I just can't apply myself to do the hours I used to do...I think we've talked about that ad nauseam...but after 18yrs driving and no real debts to speak of(mortgage) I feel I can take my foot off the pedal...pun fukin intended!!
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Ya need motivation to work.Unless you've got someone depending on you to bring home loadsa money yer not gonna be doing any extra hours than necessary.I get bored and feck off back to the gaff.
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If you can’t make a good wage in this game you should be doing something else.
Go on the dole
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I've been driving for money for 23 years.It's easy but it's boring driving the taxi.I never really see it as good money because of how expensive it is to be on business.
Even if you're taking a grand a week in you're doing no better that the Luas or bus Eireannn driver who gets holidays and sick pay.
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I've been driving for money for 23 years.It's easy but it's boring driving the taxi.I never really see it as good money because of how expensive it is to be on business.
Even if you're taking a grand a week in you're doing no better that the Luas or bus Eireannn driver who gets holidays and sick pay.
Doing it over 25 years and it’s easier it’s getting.
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Yes but I'm only 42,the job is easy but completely boring though.Once you get the job of taxi driver you stay in that position forever.Same shit week in week out.
Only plus side is you can come and go when you want.
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42?...taxi game hasn't been good to you!! lol
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Drove a hack for a number of years and that was hard work.
Money was good though.
Hacks were taking as much as Taxies back then.
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42?...taxi game hasn't been good to you!! lol
"The answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything is 42."