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Title: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: john m on February 04, 2020, 01:51:28 pm
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tens-of-thousands-to-be-hit-with-new-599-monthly-charge-from-eir-for-access-to-email-38924417.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tens-of-thousands-to-be-hit-with-new-599-monthly-charge-from-eir-for-access-to-email-38924417.html) .

Eir is to begin charging tens of thousands of people and organisations €5.99 per month for its Eircom.net email service, which has been free for almost 20 years.

From March 31, Eircom.net account holders who don't pay won't be able to open individual email messages.

If they don't pay within two months, their email account will be deleted.
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Shallowhal on February 04, 2020, 02:05:18 pm
Gmales is free....hotmales is free!! lol
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: john m on February 04, 2020, 02:29:14 pm
If or when Google charge 20 a month for Gmail or pay per mail the world will have to Vaseline up and take it .
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 04, 2020, 03:28:43 pm
Eir are perfectly right.I remember when I was in eircom.loads of times it happened that I wouldbe called out to a fault.when id get there,more often then not id establish that the fault was in a router box belonging to a private provider,and there was nothing we could do because it wasnt down to us.it meant the customer got away with bringing us out to a fault that had nothing to do with us,the private provider got away with eircom having to establish this,and all eircom was allowed to charge was 1 penny aa a nominal fee for bringing us out.then we were instructed to issue chargable forms with a fee of 40 euro attached if we were brought out to a fault not of our making the comreg agreed to this.it was the only way eircom could recoup some money,and it willsoon made a lot of companies call their private provider before calling us.for far to long eircom has had to bear the brunt of comregs unfair rules
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2020, 03:39:47 pm
Eir is fast becoming obsolete. Siro (ESB/Vodafone) own the new broadband/telecoms infrastructure.
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 04, 2020, 03:55:08 pm
People have been saying that since the first day the market was opened up.it wont happen.sure with the amount of fibre optic they are laying at the moment I think your dreaming rat
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2020, 06:08:03 pm
Siro is the only one with Gigabit in my area... once that comes to an area it's a no-brainer. Have Eir even started upgrading to Gigabit yet or are they just going to resell Siro like everybody else?

Remember when everyone thought they were going to make a killing on the Telecom Eireann shares... then the new CEO came from the United States of America and resigned before small break on day one?
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 04, 2020, 06:19:22 pm
Rat eir is the incumbent operator.everything that happens in the industry must go through the eir network,including the DUG direct underground cable,or dropwire off the pole .eir call the shots
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2020, 06:40:51 pm
I don't think that applies to Siro. That was rolled out using the ESB network. When I got it installed they put a brand new cable into the gaff separate from the old Eir one that's still there.

I think Virgin may have their own infrastructure too, they were digging the roads up around the same time as ESB/Siro... much to my annoyance, why they can't all use the same holes is beyond me.
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2020, 06:44:23 pm
Dare I suggest you might be behind the times a bit, DM?

https://siro.ie/about-us/

How We Build the SIRO Network
 
SIRO is deployed on ESB’s existing overhead and underground infrastructure, ensuring a fast and cost-efficient roll-out to every county in Ireland.

SIRO’s key differentiator is that it is a custom-built 100% fibre optic service , with no copper connection at any point in the network, making it faster and more reliable than the traditional broadband infrastructure in Ireland.
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 04, 2020, 06:57:05 pm
It starts ith the exchange,so do these companies now have their own exchanges ? They did not in my day ,they piggybacked onto our network including the exchange
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Vikkiz on February 04, 2020, 10:00:26 pm
Virgin have all their own cables, so can operate without Eir/Eircom/Telecom Eireann/Post & Telecoms cables.
Don’t need exchanges as it’s all fiber optics, and VOIP is the way they use their phone system.
Mad thing is with Virgin, our landline number starts with 555  ??? ???
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Cool Boola on February 05, 2020, 12:13:28 pm
Virgin mobile piggyback on 3 and charge more...
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 05, 2020, 01:35:08 pm
Vikk virgin always allocate a new number when you apply for their services.you can hang on to your old number upon request.it is just a matter of then requesting eir to enable your existing number on MDF (main distrabution frame ) on a new L I ,and providing service
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 05, 2020, 01:42:53 pm
I kept my old number with Vodafone on the Siro network. Like Vic says the telephone is VOIP so probably not directly connected to the exchange at all. They tell you it's not suitable if your alarm monitoring service requires a landline, that's the only downside. However, I have tested an autodialler connected to my own alarm and it worked fine... so not sure why.
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 05, 2020, 03:00:07 pm
Used to be gas,with us ,and the alarm installers
There was always a race to see who would get to the ETU at the side of the house first.all the new houses were pre wired for alarm,phone cable tv etc.there was a good 2 pair cable installed by the buulder,and a shite one as well.we used to be tripping over oyrselves to get to the house first to get the good cable
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Vikkiz on February 05, 2020, 08:00:58 pm
Vikk virgin always allocate a new number when you apply for their services.you can hang on to your old number upon request.it is just a matter of then requesting eir to enable your existing number on MDF (main distrabution frame ) on a new L I ,and providing service
It’s only useful if you were a previous Eir customer. Which I wasn’t, so 555 is the start of my home phone number
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 05, 2020, 08:49:59 pm
Yeah thats true
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Cool Boola on February 08, 2020, 02:47:39 am
Hows the form Daly.. Are ya motering again.. 
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Post by: dublin2018 on February 08, 2020, 05:24:44 am
Did FREENOW BUY EIR rofl rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 08, 2020, 09:25:20 am
No not yet coola,it will be a few weeks yet,and even then im seriously undecided wether ill be coming back at all or not.even before any of this happened I thought about it.I always said I would not join a dispatcher,but I also realize im fukked if I dont because I have no chance of making a living.im now one of those independents who seriously needs to consider his future.
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Post by: mercenary for hire on February 08, 2020, 09:57:53 am
Daly the job is relatively expensive to stay in compared to a few years ago.I'd think long and hard whether you can keep up with the new costs of being on the road especially when you shouldn't be stressing yourself and you have another income stream...even though it's only a small wee pension.

10k a year before you make a cent for yourself.
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 08, 2020, 10:09:10 am
No I hear ya,and agree.I dont know what to do.I would not mind the outlay if there were a lot less taxis.but every second car on the road is a taxi,coupled with the fact that they are nearly all aligned with a dispatcher ,it makes it extremely difficult for an independent to operate in those circumstances .its kind of hard to justify the outlay.my only hope is that drivers will get rid of dispatchers out of the industry,and this could happen if they keep putting their commission up
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 08, 2020, 10:32:52 am
Drivers are pissed off but still not enough to make a serious difference. Some lads have major overheads in rentals. As much as 25k or even 35/40k if you include a commission to Free now before they make any profit.

Even if we dump Free now there will be another app that will be nicer and cheaper for a while but they'll most likely sell out to Uber/Freenow or someone else down the road. Even yer man that started Uber has sold his shares and moved on to other things.

Customers(and drivers)are addicted to smartphones. Just look at the people walking around town staring into a phone screen for 80% of their time outdoors. That's gonna be hard to reverse.

The banks are selling off some of their ATMs so if private companies operate them it could cost 2/3 euro make a withdrawal which will make cash even more unpopular.This suits the banks as it costs them to handle cash.

You may be able to stand your ground and take cash only, but you'll be less busy with the same overheads as the Freenow/Flag/Taxy Ambassador clearing up in half of the hours.

If I had another income and no mortgage I'd go travelling. Maybe you could borrow a taxi for a few nights a week when you need extra cash.I'm really surprised we haven't seen cosying return. To leave such an expensive asset parked up not earning is a waste even though I wouldn't want mine out getting puked in all year.
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 08, 2020, 10:49:13 am
You can have all the apps,and radio dispatchers you like,but if drivers are not prepared to use themtheen what use are they ? the fact that drivers have the power to control the whole taxi industry,seems to be lost on them.they would rather let the likes of Kearns,Kelly,and Ebbs  control them .I will NEVER understand why
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 08, 2020, 10:59:47 am
All newer drivers are prolific app users.They don't know any different.They don't remember a time when there was either radio work or street work.Sure I didn't see it for too long meself TBH.When the deregulation era lads retire fairly soon the memory of cash work will be gone with them.

Night drivers see much more cash than day drivers but that won't be for long.Even when I'm on a rank I'm getting hassled to take cards.It's just expected now during the day shift from business users.

I still see lads paying for one pint with their cards in the pub.Not a problem.Never any complaints form the bar staff.They just tap the machine and walk off.Faster than a cash customer.
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 08, 2020, 11:06:44 am
Well with cash gone,by the same token so are tips and this is the drivers fault for not supporting the protest to oppose the NTA illegal demand that we offer CC facilities
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Cool Boola on February 08, 2020, 11:16:04 am
It's  definitely a tail wagging the dog business and if I was you Daly...I would think long and hard before giving up the taxi...saw a job on Jobs.ie  a few days ago for a night time porter...Different direction to look at?
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 08, 2020, 11:28:53 am
Dont know what to do coola ,I might just wait and see if there. will be less taxis when drivers realize the full costs.there are far to many taxis,and not so long ago the NTA werr looking for another 1600 .no doubt Kearns Kelly ,and Ebbs were whinging in their ear
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Post by: Rat Catcher on February 08, 2020, 01:04:54 pm
Stay registered as self-employed while you consider your options. You can still generate losses to offset against other income or carry forward. You might want to consider making voluntary PRSI contributions too... What you should be looking at right now is the long-term illness benefit which, I think, you should be eligible for after a year off sick.
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Post by: Cool Boola on February 08, 2020, 07:58:41 pm
Keys Rat...you should have been a barrister....
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: dalymount on February 08, 2020, 10:19:38 pm
Yeah your right about it being a year rat,but I intend to be back to work in about 3weeks time
Title: Re: Thieving robbing Scum
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 09, 2020, 11:57:56 am
Fair play. Are you gonna work for Free Now?