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Title: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: watty on April 17, 2020, 05:34:47 pm
You always know something's dodgy when organisations put out emails/press releases on Fri evenings but this one is a peach!

How long are we in lockdown?  I just got the pearls of wisdom email from the NTA.  They're still putting out that 2m social distancing mantra.  So I went out and measured my taxi.

2.0m = social distancing.
0.68m = driver's headrest to front passenger headrest
0.96m = driver's headrest to rear passenger headrest on left side.
1.5m = the entire width of my taxi on the outside.

How the fukk am I supposed to keep 2m away from my passengers?  Make them sit in the boot?  >:(
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on April 17, 2020, 05:37:38 pm
it's all a loada bollocks.
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: mercenary for hire on April 17, 2020, 05:38:06 pm
You have to spend money to make money...
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-transporter-shuttle-2015/24620871 (https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-transporter-shuttle-2015/24620871)
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Theoneandonly on April 17, 2020, 05:39:03 pm
Fit a screen and but them in the back.
I do think there is a difference in risk when you have your back to somebody, common sense would suggest this is so
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: watty on April 17, 2020, 05:47:08 pm
Not so sure about the 'back' thing.  I believe the most common vector is it gets on your hands and then you touch your face...  That's how the doctors and nursers got ill during the (blood-borne) Ebola crisis.  They didn't get infected directly from the patients - they infected themselves taking off their protective gear!
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: mercenary for hire on April 17, 2020, 05:47:40 pm
The two meter thing is a load of bollox.There is no safe distance in an enclosed space.There was an RTE report last week and it showed the distance that your spit travels when yer taking loud and it was more like 4/5 meters.

Just assume if yer going to work you are gonna get it.Screens are just an act of desperation IMO.The number of passengers wanting to get into a tiny space surrounded by plastic isn't very high.

They'd actually be safer in a rickshaw.
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: watty on April 17, 2020, 05:51:57 pm
Which reminds me.  Did you see the simulation of how far the virus spreads when someone coughs in a supermarket!

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5300604/video-cough-can-spread-cloud-coronavirus-across-supermarket-lingers/ (https://www.thesun.ie/news/5300604/video-cough-can-spread-cloud-coronavirus-across-supermarket-lingers/)

(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/NINTCHDBPICT000575951095-1.jpg?strip=all&w=960)
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Theoneandonly on April 17, 2020, 06:02:13 pm
The two meter thing is a load of bollox.There is no safe distance in an enclosed space.There was an RTE report last week and it showed the distance that your spit travels when yer taking loud and it was more like 4/5 meters.

Just assume if yer going to work you are gonna get it.Screens are just an act of desperation IMO.The number of passengers wanting to get into a tiny space surrounded by plastic isn't very high.

They'd actually be safer in a rickshaw.

I thought the same about screens, now I see therm everywhere and I hear shops are having them fitted with the expectation of re-opening in May, I reckon people will expect to see them as the rule rather than the exception, saying that I believe they are effective in protecting the driver, less so the passenger who is depending on the hygiene routines of the driver for their safety
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: watty on April 17, 2020, 06:21:10 pm
I wonder about those screens & their legality (in general & during an accident). 

I also wonder if it's a bit like getting an engineer's report when you turn out a WAT.  Is your screen 'legal' if you don't get all the paperwork done and tell your insurance company & the NTA that you've modified your taxi.  They ask that 'modification' question for every suitability already.
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: dalymount on April 17, 2020, 06:23:06 pm
The NTA don't give a fukk about your well-being, they are simply fulfilling their legal obligation to advise drivers. Don't think for one minute these people actually care about you. If they did, they would recommend to government that you should be de classified and not seemed to be essiential workers
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: watty on April 17, 2020, 06:34:02 pm
@dalymount: I agree with you.  I'm annoyed because they probably had an hour or two to waste this afternoon before they went home so they shoved out any ole shite.

I think there might also be legal and insurance implications because this would be considered official advise.  I'm not a lawyer but they're hungry b*stards who can get very creative when they smell money...   What if a passenger could somehow prove that you infected them and you ignored the official advice by working a taxi and not keeping the 2m distance?  Or you crashed with a passenger on-board?  Would it go against you because you were working in a taxi and not keeping the 2m distance?   You could even go a step further and maybe the NTA could fine you for working illegally because you didn't follow official advise.
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Shallowhal on April 17, 2020, 07:51:58 pm
I've never hidden my hatred for the NTA....."it's all about the money" with them fuks and you're right about the sending out of that mail at close of business on Fri...cunts!!

The tone of the mail with regard to licence suspension and all their rules and regulations at a time when a lot of business including insurances companies try and work with their customers at a very uncertain time in our lives to help those who might be struggling financially but these shower of fuks are really doing nothing at all.....they couldn't give a shite about yis!!
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Octavia1 on April 17, 2020, 08:00:10 pm
All reminds me again...how did 15 bus drivers die in London and worked behind screens for years ....and they dont handle cash ....
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: john m on April 17, 2020, 08:04:18 pm
Fit a screen and but them in the back.
I do think there is a difference in risk when you have your back to somebody, common sense would suggest this is so
Only a truly hungry cunt would fit a non conforming screen endangering his passenger .If I saw a taxi with a home made screen I would report it to the Gards the taxithingey and the insurance .How irresponsible can you get treating your passengers with non conforming screens .
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: dalymount on April 17, 2020, 08:12:18 pm
Well the way I see this going, it's going to become cumpolsary to have these screens. Remenisint of when CC facilities were introduced by dispatcher firms. Look at it now it's cumpolsary to offer these facilities, and all because you allowed to happen. The same will happen with these fukin screens just because F/N , and Ebbs are going down this road they will become cumpolsary in the event of time
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: john m on April 17, 2020, 08:17:14 pm
Dollymount I have no real objection to screens that are safe and approved for use but home made Free Now plastic walls are dangerous to both passengers and drivers .A shattering piece of plastic is as deadly as a Dagger .When Big Dommos mate Sean the Shive was locked up in Pentonvill in the 70s he sharpened a piece of plastic to carry as an offensive weapon .
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Theoneandonly on April 17, 2020, 08:19:01 pm
Fit a screen and but them in the back.
I do think there is a difference in risk when you have your back to somebody, common sense would suggest this is so
Only a truly hungry cunt would fit a non conforming screen endangering his passenger .If I saw a taxi with a home made screen I would report it to the Gards the taxithingey and the insurance .How irresponsible can you get treating your passengers with non conforming screens .

Is there such a thing as a conforming screen? we live in strange times, needs must, as far as I'm concerned when you weigh things up a screen of some sort is necessary if and when you intend returning to work .... at least until a vaccine is approved
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: dalymount on April 17, 2020, 08:28:31 pm
Speaking of vaccine, I believe there's talk that the Brit are very close to having something developed, anyone else hear this ?
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Shallowhal on April 17, 2020, 08:36:09 pm
Speaking of vaccine, I believe there's talk that the Brit are very close to having something developed, anyone else hear this ?

If they have they'll probably call it The Boris!!
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: mercenary for hire on April 17, 2020, 08:44:47 pm
I took the car out to charge the battery and there are loads working away.It actually looked busy around Phibsborough.Seen a few taxis up close and the link rentals were busy with their fancy screens.

So there are probably just as many passengers getting fed up with the lock down and don't give a shit if they catch it.I suppose some older folks would rather live their shorter life and take a chance than be locked in a room all day.
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Theoneandonly on April 17, 2020, 08:51:33 pm
I took the car out to charge the battery and there are loads working away.It actually looked busy around Phibsborough.Seen a few taxis up close and the link rentals were busy with their fancy screens.

So there are probably just as many passengers getting fed up with the lock down and don't give a shit if they catch it.I suppose some older folks would rather live their shorter life and take a chance than be locked in a room all day.

I have my plexiglass  and am waiting on a clear tarpolin to arrive, I haven't decided yet which will be my sneeze guard and which is for the tomatoes, what did the tarpolin look like in the Lynk set up?
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Shallowhal on April 17, 2020, 08:55:57 pm
I took the car out to charge the battery and there are loads working away.It actually looked busy around Phibsborough.Seen a few taxis up close and the link rentals were busy with their fancy screens.

So there are probably just as many passengers getting fed up with the lock down and don't give a shit if they catch it.I suppose some older folks would rather live their shorter life and take a chance than be locked in a room all day.

Where are they headin out to....the Auld Triangle?
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: mercenary for hire on April 17, 2020, 08:56:49 pm
Just looked like the material that they used to cover a kids buggy.No doubt some of the meter installers will offer something in a few weeks.

I wonder where the African lads used to get the PVC covers for the seats.I think they fail suitability but easy to clean.
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Theoneandonly on April 17, 2020, 09:04:48 pm
Just looked like the material that they used to cover a kids buggy.No doubt some of the meter installers will offer something in a few weeks.

I wonder where the African lads used to get the PVC covers for the seats.I think they fail suitability but easy to clean.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YLYFQC2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YLYFQC2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: john m on April 17, 2020, 09:08:21 pm
Is the plastic sneeze barrier fire retardant or do you not mind if some cunt puts a light to it .Dont fit fuck all to your vehicle you are altering the vehicle and voiding your insurance .Do any of you remember in the 80s when nearly every Hiace had bull bars .Big Dommo had an accident at  the Sundrive crossroads and his insurance would not pay for his damages as he altered the vehicle by fitting the bars .
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Theoneandonly on April 17, 2020, 09:34:33 pm
Is the plastic sneeze barrier fire retardant or do you not mind if some cunt puts a light to it .Dont fit fuck all to your vehicle you are altering the vehicle and voiding your insurance .Do any of you remember in the 80s when nearly every Hiace had bull bars .Big Dommo had an accident at  the Sundrive crossroads and his insurance would not pay for his damages as he altered the vehicle by fitting the bars .

Oh I'll definitely be fitting some version of a sneeze guard to my Taxi before I return to work, i'll take my chances with the pyromaniacs
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: john m on April 17, 2020, 09:38:42 pm
Is the plastic sneeze barrier fire retardant or do you not mind if some cunt puts a light to it .Dont fit fuck all to your vehicle you are altering the vehicle and voiding your insurance .Do any of you remember in the 80s when nearly every Hiace had bull bars .Big Dommo had an accident at  the Sundrive crossroads and his insurance would not pay for his damages as he altered the vehicle by fitting the bars .

Oh I'll definitely be fitting some version of a sneeze guard to my Taxi before I return to work, i'll take my chances with the pyromaniacs
Fair play to you ONLY at least you have a business plan Im just posing questions .I think the Firms will try to present themselves as sharing caring but if they do Ill tear them a new arsehole .Any internal devices must conform to at least an ISO standard .
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Shallowhal on April 17, 2020, 10:08:14 pm
I've said that already John regarding the FN DIY Anti Covid-19 get it while ye can,they're selling fast instructional video.
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: dalymount on April 17, 2020, 10:18:58 pm
Ya mean ya have to pay for the fukin thing ?
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Shallowhal on April 17, 2020, 10:24:07 pm
Ya mean ya have to pay for the fukin thing ?

Pay for that shite....if a 6th yr student produced that gick in a technology class he'd be laughed out of it.....i was being a bit sarky.
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Bob Shillin on April 17, 2020, 10:28:16 pm
Just looked like the material that they used to cover a kids buggy.No doubt some of the meter installers will offer something in a few weeks.

I wonder where the African lads used to get the PVC covers for the seats.I think they fail suitability but easy to clean.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YLYFQC2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YLYFQC2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
I'ld deffo pick the tarp. Can you source any nice 3m type vertical adhesive hooks for it?
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: TheDevilHimself on April 18, 2020, 06:51:04 am
There will be no need for screens  with Mr Gates' Patented Snake oil Vaccines 

rolling into a town near you real soon
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: dalymount on April 18, 2020, 07:32:53 am
I'm telling tis now, yis subscribing to a policy whereby the NTA are going to make these fukin things cumpolsary.. it'll be just like the CC we now have to offer, witch was introduced by Ebbs as well
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 18, 2020, 01:46:41 pm
Physical distancing is only one aspect of social distancing. Stay at home is the main focus these days.
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Shallowhal on April 18, 2020, 01:54:45 pm
....or pick strawberries!!
Title: Re: How wide is your taxi? (Social Distancing)
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 18, 2020, 02:02:04 pm
They're not necessarily mutually exclusive options.