Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: mercenary for hire on April 20, 2020, 12:10:28 pm
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https://www.nationaltransport.ie/consultations/public-consultation-on-draft-small-public-service-vehicle-emergency-measure-covid-19-regulation-2020/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/consultations/public-consultation-on-draft-small-public-service-vehicle-emergency-measure-covid-19-regulation-2020/)
Simon Harris said yesterday that pubs are unlikely to open until a vaccine is found.I think it's safe to say the taxi industry will be in a bad place for a while.I made a brief submission saying that all active licences should be extended by one year.
Make a submission it might help if you need another year on your heap two or three years from now.
Like I said already if the pubs and possibly restaurants and venues remain closed night driving will be severely damaged.
Those drivers will switch to days so the day shift will be even worse.With so many working from home it will become even tougher to make a crust.
With air travel heavily curtailed the kesh lads will be doing fuk all as well.It's safe to say business won't be great.Make a submission. Just because your driving a three-year-old car now doenst mean your not vulnerable at a later date.
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Buyback licences give lads a way out and a few quid .Part timers might take the lump .
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Conversely, a lot of (immigrant) drivers with clapped out shiteboxes might be struggling... should we not be dancing on their graves, metaphorically speaking?
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The immigrants go to work so they'd be fine it's the part-timers like us that may not have the money to reinvest.
I'm ok but 2500 a year is still a lot of money to waste to change the number on a registration plate.
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Damn immigrants...
I already made a submission to that anyway. I disagreed with the predetermined outcome and suggested that the age limit of all licences be extended by 3 months for every month of COVID '19 travel restrictions.
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I said it should be a 15 year rule on all cars instead of 10
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Damn immigrants...
I already made a submission to that anyway. I disagreed with the predetermined outcome and suggested that the age limit of all licences be extended by 3 months for every month of COVID '19 travel restrictions.
I think more will need to be done other than their current proposal that older cars can stay on the road for a year longer,licence holders..myself included...will be feeling the negative economic effect well into next year and probably even further depending on how the lifting of restrictions and in particular when pubs and restaurant open.....ain't gonna be normal that's for sure.
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My submission:
The consensus among the scientific community is that a vaccine is 12-18 months away i think all licenses should be extended by at least 2 years. the economic hardships that oovid-19 will bring will extend far beyond that and the taxi business will be hard hit. Thank you.
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I sent them an email when they sent me the link to the submission form asking if the measure would be extended beyond Dec 31st,i received a reply on Friday to say...
Dear Handsome Hal,
Thank you for contacting the National Transport Authority.
We appreciate the time you have taken and the concerns you have raised within your correspondence. NTA understands this is a difficult time for many SPSV operators.
At present there are no plans to amend the dates specified within the draft regulation to temporarily amend the Maximum Permissible Age of vehicles due to reach their final operation date in 2020. Upon completion of the public consultation process all representations will be assessed and a decision made based upon the feedback received.
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I sent them an email when they sent me the link to the submission form asking if the measure would be extended beyond Dec 31st,i received a reply on Friday to say...
Dear Handsome Hal,
Thank you for contacting the National Transport Authority.
We appreciate the time you have taken and the concerns you have raised within your correspondence. NTA understands this is a difficult time for many SPSV operators.
At present there are no plans to amend the dates specified within the draft regulation to temporarily amend the Maximum Permissible Age of vehicles due to reach their final operation date in 2020. Upon completion of the public consultation process all representations will be assessed and a decision made based upon the feedback received.
How do they know your such a Good Lookn Guy ?
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@STC's......everyone fukin knows that!! ::fds
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Decreasing the age rule would reduce the size of the fleet ... that would therefore be a better option, cheapskates wanting to be allowed drive shit heaps are what's wrong with this game, get them the fuck out, our passengers deserve better!
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Here is the e mail I would send them
Dear NTA. make it as hard as you can because there is far far far to many fukin taxis as it is, and I don't give a fukk about anyone else. I have no desire to see any time extended . Fukk them nobody gives a bollox about me, so why should I be trying to keep more taxis on the road by looking for a time extention
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It's alright for you old farts with no mortgages.Your car loan payments are significantly bigger than my mortgage payments.Does that not seem a bit strange.But oddly yer one of the few on here really desperate to get back to work.If you weren't buying nearly new cars every few years you could stay at home.
The geography test was limiting the fleet.Age rules just give us more debt and force us to do more hours.Your on the third car since I bought my Prius.Very expensive hobby you have there Roy.I know yer trolling but still...some things need to be said.
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MFH do you not agree that there are far far to many taxis as it is ? Why the fukk would anyone send in a submission trying to keep more of them on the road. Fukk them I would do all I can to reduce the fleet so that I can have a chance at making a living
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It's alright for you old farts with no mortgages.Your car loan payments are significantly bigger than my mortgage payments.Does that not seem a bit strange.But oddly yer one of the few on here really desperate to get back to work.If you weren't buying nearly new cars every few years you could stay at home.
The geography test was limiting the fleet.Age rules just give us more debt and force us to do more hours.Your on the third car since I bought my Prius.Very expensive hobby you have there Roy.I know yer trolling but still...some things need to be said.
I'll probably buy another one before you replace it if you get your way, you yourself said in another thread recently something along the lines "that we are a quality service. expensive etc" when trying to excuse your decision to stay at home and take the free money (which I will happily accept until they decide to remove it. I'm in no hurry... just preparing for the inevitable) I agree, we are supposed to be a quality alternative to LPSVs, we need more stringent regulations to keep the product up to a required standard, to keep/drive the number of licences lower and to remove the part time/ low standard/ poor quality operators determined to keep/drive them lower
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I think ultimately FN will do their best to take advantage of their position on the TAC and being owned by a car manufacturer to own the fleet eventually...filling the streets will naan vans.
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I think ultimately FN will do their best to take advantage of their position on the TAC and being owned by a car manufacturer to own the fleet eventually...filling the streets will naan vans.
Who'd have thought the App would eventually be owned by the French Foreign Legion?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l_3AM_fncs&lc=Ugz_roAoW1BMJH2vZR94AaABAg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l_3AM_fncs&lc=Ugz_roAoW1BMJH2vZR94AaABAg) 8)
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I disagree that stricter age restrictions bring a better quality vehicle.All we're gonna get are more Dacias and Renaults.The Superb drivers are the Merc drivers of ten years ago.Hardly progress.
We've all been over this multiple times.When all the sums are done it's 2500 a year to keep the vehicle fresh.That's 2500 after expenses.Which was about an extra month behind the wheel every year.Now it could be two months earnings for some with this Covid 19 shite.Now with the prospect of discounted work we're actually in a worse position compared to ten years ago.
As things are my vehicle passes the NCT no problems even though it's older.Needs a clean but there's nothing wrong with it.You should be happy there are lads like me who don't need to work as much leaving a little more for the rest of yis.
When I need to upgrade I'm gonna be taking the jobs you have now.Nobody really wins except the dealers and the meter installers.Customers don't care.Newer cars mean more hours for everyone.It's a myth perpetuated by pensioners and lads with fuk all else to spend their money on.
Like I said already I've cash to buy another car but it seems absolutely insane in the current climate.
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I disagree that stricter age restrictions bring a better quality vehicle.All we're gonna get are more Dacias and Renaults.The Superb drivers are the Merc drivers of ten years ago.Hardly progress.
We've all been over this multiple times.When all the sums are done it's 2500 a year to keep the vehicle fresh.That's 2500 after expenses.Which was about an extra month behind the wheel every year.Now it could be two months earnings for some with this Covid 19 shite.Now with the prospect of discounted work we're actually in a worse position compared to ten years ago.
As things are my vehicle passes the NCT no problems even though it's older.Needs a clean but there's nothing wrong with it.You should be happy there are lads like me who don't need to work as much leaving a little more for the rest of yis.
When I need to upgrade I'm gonna be taking the jobs you have now.Nobody really wins except the dealers and the meter installers.Customers don't care.Newer cars mean more hours for everyone.It's a myth perpetuated by pensioners and lads with fuk all else to spend their money on.
Like I said already I've cash to buy another car but it seems absolutely insane in the current climate.
I find not being willing to spend in order to provide a decent service for passengers does not equate to those drivers working less hours, that greed extends to working every hour available in their shitheaps, the only way to drive down the numbers is to increase the standards.
I don't have any problem with Dacias, Renaults, Peugeots or Citroens, particularly if they are wheelchair accessible, I do have an issue with the extended age rule though.
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If Metaxi have influence then the age limit should be reduced to 6 years and two months and four days .The Metaxi can say .Look lads the costs are terrible so we will supply from out thousands of unsold motors a new vehicle for every driver in the fleet at a cost of xxx as long as you cover xxx amount of jobs per week @xx% commission .
So xxx -xxx multiplied by xxx @xx% commission = take home pay of ! and we will offer BoBo of food stamps toilet rolls for Ambassadors and pens ,notebooks and printer rolls with our company lo go on it .LIBERTY _EQUALITY _POVERTY
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I'd argue the lads changing cars unnecessarily are just trying to impress their neighbours.Age of a vehicle doesn't determine it's quality or how safe a vehicle is.My own self worth isn't determined by what I drive.That would be just foolish and shallow.
If you have an easy geography test you end up with loads of sub ten year old cars because anyone can borrow money.If the test was left as it was maybe we'd all have plenty of cash lying around to change cars on a whim.
What do you think happens when a car gets to ten years old?Does it start to biodegrade?Maybe your car but not mine.It's steel and plastic.It will last 50 years if it's maintained.So 15 years isn't really a problem.
I'd love to see what yous lads would be saying if yis had mortgages and kids in creches.
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Free Now call the shots these days. They want low fares, low quality, high volume.
The outcome of the consultation is predetermined anyway.
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Here is me thinking .Its a load of bollox .The over riding thing is to keep costs and rules light touch .there are about 12,000 unemployables in this game and casual labour to take up the slack at weekends .Now among the full time unembloyable meself included we have overseas workers who may struggle a bit with directions until they learn the roads .So Metaxi or whatever serves a purpose is supplying work to geographiccly impaired drivers until they learn the roads then fuck back the app and its extortionate rates .I look on the app as a college course in geography that is pay as you learn .Now because a lot of drivers when they matriculate into competent operators leave the app metaxi will look to recruit new entrants and they will be supported by renters and Reps who want to sell bookkeeping services .Now for all of you who read this but already knew it I have some little reward for you .b OO KK EE ping and its derivatives is the only word in the English language with three sets of double the same letters ookkee that follow each other .
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Here is me thinking .Its a load of bollox .The over riding thing is to keep costs and rules light touch .there are about 12,000 unemployables in this game and casual labour to take up the slack at weekends .Now among the full time unembloyable meself included we have overseas workers who may struggle a bit with directions until they learn the roads .So Metaxi or whatever serves a purpose is supplying work to geographiccly impaired drivers until they learn the roads then fuck back the app and its extortionate rates .I look on the app as a college course in geography that is pay as you learn .Now because a lot of drivers when they matriculate into competent operators leave the app metaxi will look to recruit new entrants and they will be supported by renters and Reps who want to sell bookkeeping services .Now for all of you who read this but already knew it I have some little reward for you .b OO KK EE ping and its derivatives is the only word in the English language with three sets of double the same letters ookkee that follow each other .
Very interesting and I always thought Bookkeeping was 2 words
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@ mercenary for hire, I agree totally with you there. If cars are maintained and cleaned and polished properly they will last for decades, my old taxi is an example 2003 Citroen C5 2ltr hdi it has 642,000 miles on it, the paint work is glossy everything works inside and out, I put a towbar on it and I use it a couple of times a week. My current taxi a C5 estate is flawless and it will kill me to sell it when its 10 years old its a pure waste and its only money making for government and dealerships. When you put a age limit on a taxi there is minimal effort to maintain or care for the taxi in its final 12 or 10 months, by keeping it open ended the inspection could be more strict any grubbiness or anything broken it doesn't get relicensed so it puts more effort into keeping taxi up to spec which is not hard.
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It's just common sense.When someone comes up with a plan to improve the industry that doesn't cost us unnecessary thousands I'll consider it seriously.
You don't hear shop owners asking for increased rates from the council across the city because they think it will put their competition out of business that have less footfall.
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That's some millage c5, is it miles, or kilometers ? I currently have 341k on mine
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Everytime someone comes up with a plan it costs us......door stickers,roofsign area stickers(that means fukall really) first aid kit,fire extinguisher and all important pen and notepad.
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Everytime someone comes up with a plan it costs us......door stickers,roofsign area stickers(that means fukall really) first aid kit,fire extinguisher and all important pen and notepad.
FAIL : No Warning Triangle
No Hi-Viz Vest
No Torch
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You're a bleedin fail!!
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@ mercenary for hire, I agree totally with you there. If cars are maintained and cleaned and polished properly they will last for decades, my old taxi is an example 2003 Citroen C5 2ltr hdi it has 642,000 miles on it, the paint work is glossy everything works inside and out, I put a towbar on it and I use it a couple of times a week. My current taxi a C5 estate is flawless and it will kill me to sell it when its 10 years old its a pure waste and its only money making for government and dealerships. When you put a age limit on a taxi there is minimal effort to maintain or care for the taxi in its final 12 or 10 months, by keeping it open ended the inspection could be more strict any grubbiness or anything broken it doesn't get relicensed so it puts more effort into keeping taxi up to spec which is not hard.
You lot don't get it. the old carina was bullet proof, and there were hundreds of them going around as taxis 20 years plus old, that didn't stop them being shit heaps, also made the rental business very lucrative for all sorts of low life, the 9 year rule has worked out very well for the business, if you don't have the capability of changing your vehicle every few years as part of your business model maybe you shouldn't be in the business
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No Roy I you don't get it.A massive oversupply of Bronze badges given out like confetti allowing everyone who wanted to be on road the into the industry without any proper vetting or testing procedures.
When the economy collapsed there were guys coming out of the woodwork to rent who had never intended to drive a taxi but had back up PSV badges.You are talking complete nonsense if you think the the ten year rule is responsible for the uptake in business.
Less drivers licences mean less guys available to drive taxis not the other way round.
We thrashed all this out before I think yer getting the aul Alzheimers like one or two other members on here.
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Frank Fahey wanted to do away with the rental sector altogether, but Noel Dempsey wasn't having it
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No Roy I you don't get it.A massive oversupply of Bronze badges given out like confetti allowing everyone who wanted to be on road the into the industry without any proper vetting or testing procedures.
When the economy collapsed there were guys coming out of the woodwork to rent who had never intended to drive a taxi but had back up PSV badges.You are talking complete nonsense if you think the the ten year rule is responsible for the uptake in business.
Less drivers licences mean less guys available to drive taxis not the other way round.
We thrashed all this out before I think yer getting the aul Alzheimers like one or two other members on here.
Why are there less drivers?
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To be fair, you have to consider the clients' perspective too. If you rented a car and Enterprise offered you an antique Citreon with nearly a million kilos on it you'd be quick enough to tell them where to stick it.
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Have yous been to London/liverpool or New York in a taxi? The cars aren't low mileage immaculate vehicles.They're driven by multiple drivers all around the clock.Only reasonably clean by my standards.You lads think we are a limo service for taxi prices.
Where did all the drivers go?...
This isn't in order or entirely coherant but should give yis an idea.
There's always been lots of churn in the taxi industry.Drivers come and go.
Tougher taxi exam meant those who left after the recession to go back to work in other industries may have lapsed their PSV driver licence.The 250 renewal fee made it expensive to keep as a back up plan.Now they simply aren't able to pass the exam without a lot of work.So don't come back or are unable to pass the exam.
As far as I know(always open to correction) international students can't drive taxis on student visas.They aren't allowed to be self employed.That removed a good few rental drivers instantly.
Also the requirement to maintain tax clearance all year round may have removed some drivers behind on their returns by a few years or the ones on the labour thanks to the driver app.
When I started nearly eleven years ago there were lots of elderly drivers.?Maybe 50/60 years plus.Many who were ex hacks.Many have simply passed away or got too sick or afraid to drive full time.The apps mean they have to do longer hours for less money so they may not be tech savvy enough to move with the times.They're pushing 70 now so it's game over for some.No doubt the ten year rule plays a part but it's not the sole reason.
Quite simply we were losing 500(I think) active driver licences per year at one stage and there weren't even half of that getting through the newer exam.
I'll think of more stuff later but I'm busy..
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So what are you saying you want more taxis ? Jeez the fukin place is overrun with them as it is
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Nobody wants more taxis .But at the same time if the existing fleet have to work extra hours/weeks/months because of age rules then the effect is the exact same.Taxis everywhere.If more lads are doing 12/13 hours instead of 5/6 that's 50% extra cars on the road.
Drivers don't disappear they just put extra hours/shifts in.Think of how many extra shifts a day driver needs to cover after expenses during the current climate to get 2500 per year.
When we all put in extra shifts everyone earns a bit less.There's a finite amount of work.
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So surely we should be trying to reduce the amount of hours we work through other means. Let's take a look double jobbers are here to stay , so no use going down that road. Maybe an age limit on taxi driving say for instance you cannot drive a taxi after the age of 70.this would not only get auld lads who only do it for a hobby out, but it would also allow young lads with morgages and young families to have a bit of a run at making a living
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So surely we should be trying to reduce the amount of hours we work through other means. Let's take a look double jobbers are here to stay , so no use going down that road. Maybe an age limit on taxi driving say for instance you cannot drive a taxi after the age of 70.this would not only get auld lads who only do it for a hobby out, but it would also allow young lads with morgages and young families to have a bit of a run at making a living
Why does every solution you suggest not include you .Why not just enforce the rules that are there .Limit driving hours to 11 a day by chipping meter you must log on and then you have 11 hours including brakes to earn a crust meter wont accept another job after 11 hours .People working in other jobs are limited to 3 hours a day on a working day and 11 on the days they are not in other employment .Then read the meter for tax purposes .If the meter is tampered with 100K fine .
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The problem is 70 might not be strict enough for the road safety authority or others.
Only the other day there was a 66-year-old truck driver who caused an accident and the death of a kid through error and got a four year driving ban.A professional driver too.
Not all OAPs are bolloxed but there are a good few that aren't as sharp as they used to be.Some I know can barely get out of the car compared to ten years ago when I first met them.Taxi driving is a job for the youngsters.
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So surely we should be trying to reduce the amount of hours we work through other means. Let's take a look double jobbers are here to stay , so no use going down that road. Maybe an age limit on taxi driving say for instance you cannot drive a taxi after the age of 70.this would not only get auld lads who only do it for a hobby out, but it would also allow young lads with morgages and young families to have a bit of a run at making a living
Why does every solution you suggest not include you .Why not just enforce the rules that are there .Limit driving hours to 11 a day by chipping meter you must log on and then you have 11 hours including brakes to earn a crust meter wont accept another job after 11 hours .People working in other jobs are limited to 3 hours a day on a working day and 11 on the days they are not in other employment .Then read the meter for tax purposes .If the meter is tampered with 100K fine .
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And that would limit the hours any one car could do also i.e. more than likely only 1 driver per car
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So surely we should be trying to reduce the amount of hours we work through other means. Let's take a look double jobbers are here to stay , so no use going down that road. Maybe an age limit on taxi driving say for instance you cannot drive a taxi after the age of 70.this would not only get auld lads who only do it for a hobby out, but it would also allow young lads with morgages and young families to have a bit of a run at making a living
Why does every solution you suggest not include you .Why not just enforce the rules that are there .Limit driving hours to 11 a day by chipping meter you must log on and then you have 11 hours including brakes to earn a crust meter wont accept another job after 11 hours .People working in other jobs are limited to 3 hours a day on a working day and 11 on the days they are not in other employment .Then read the meter for tax purposes .If the meter is tampered with 100K fine .
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And that would limit the hours any one car could do also i.e. more than likely only 1 driver per car
No you could have two x11 hour shifts with an hour to handover .Chances are the fleet would decrease as drivers paired up to share a car with part timers taking up the slack .Its the reading of the meter for tax purposes that would sort it out .Lad who already used up his tax credits then driving part time would only be allowed to offset part not all of his taxi costs against his taxi earnings might not be worth his while financially .Always amazed me lads thinking they were earning fortunes and scamming the taxman for a few ton a year willing to pony over 15% commission .I would suggest a full time app driver pays two ot three times more is commission than he pays in tax yet he would object to having the meter read for tax purposes .Cashless trade will sort out the tax issue so why not jump the gun and suggest it .There are benifits .
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I haven't worked 11 hours in one day in about 5 years.It's far too long for anyone to be doing regularly and not drive over a pedestrian/cyclist.And I'm younger than most of yis.
Putting chips in meters won't do anything as lads will work off the meter or Freenow will introduce fixed fares.
We don't need another taxi review.The taxi test needs to be returned to 80% pass rate to stop the flood that's coming.A small change that will make a big difference without buying new meters or cars.
Next time yis are thinking of improving the industry ,if it costs us money it's a shite idea.That money has to be gotten from working.It doesn't just appear in our accounts like the COVID payment.
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The BIG QUESTION is are the Greens going into Government if so then Millions more going to be spent on Public Transport so expect 24/7 bus service Luas and Rail cant run 24/7 due to noise pollution .Expect busses to tun to drop off points like clondalkin Village or Tallaght with private local link busses subsidised by government to do the lap with passengers going to the local estates .They might even include Taxies with Leap cards and you submit your monthly leap card after hour jobs to the Department of Trans to claim the subsidies .Transport is going to change big time road congestion is costly and environmentally harmfull .
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Is that before or after we get off our knees...economically speaking?
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Is that before or after we get off our knees...economically speaking?
Ryan is a sociopath he will look for his 7% reduction in emissions per annum to join any government .After 100s of Farmers eat their shotguns and they will as Milk and Beef is unsellable China and Brexit has put an end to sales of overpriced over hyped product .Emissions will fall with less cattle on the land .That only leaves transport as the way to reduce emissions .What gets started now will impact us in say 5 to 10 years .I have 10 to go to pension and I intended my taxi to be my pension adding to my state benifit but I doubt a part time taxi service will exist in 10 years as costs for electric vehicles and probably road pricing where you pay to use the roads per KM will make taxi journies uncommunicative against state sponsored modes of transport .Could see a time when your car is allotted free road miles depending how rural you are in relation to the next town or city and after you use up your free miles you have to pay per mile .Bit like your mobile phone package .
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John you asked why does every solution I propose not include me ? Your wrong there, because this solution I proposed is EXACTLY to include me I'm nearly 66 so therefore it exactly against my age bracket I proposed that we be stopped when we reach 70
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John you asked why does every solution I propose not include me ? Your wrong there, because this solution I proposed is EXACTLY to include me I'm nearly 66 so therefore it exactly against my age bracket I proposed that we be stopped when we reach 70
So your only looking for 4 more years how very altruistic of you .
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Have yous been to London/liverpool or New York in a taxi? The cars aren't low mileage immaculate vehicles.They're driven by multiple drivers all around the clock.Only reasonably clean by my standards.You lads think we are a limo service for taxi prices.
You'd have to out of your mind to travel any distance in a New York or London taxi. Use Uber.
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I'm trying to be realistic here. I think 70 is about the right age for drivers to be forced into retirement in this game, but for the customers sake, and the drivers sake
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There should be an annual medical test and the maximum age ought to be the statutory retirement age. During COVID '19 restrictions any driver over 59 or otherwise defined as "at risk" by HSE should have their driving licences temporarily revoked.
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There is no reason taxi drivers should have to work any longer, or more dangerously then anyone else , in any other job. The only way this can be achieved is for us to reverse the trend. There was a time that we were much sought after by the public, and we had their total respect. This was the case because there were not so many of us, and we called the shots. Now the NTA responded to public demand, and then WE were chasing CUSTOMERS. We have to find a way of becoming in demand again, and it can only be through the process of age control. This is a young man's game, and at the moment it is totally unprofessional. I believe it needs uniformaty, and direction on all sides. There is no proper enforcement of the rules on the NTA side, there is total unprofessionalism on the drivers side, and the dept of transport do seem to recognize taxis at all
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I tend to agree with most of what rat says, but I wouldn't put the bar as low as 59 but I would agree with an annual medical being carried out, even though I would probably be the first to go
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Ya'll be alright, DM... it's who you know not how well you are...
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Have yous been to London/liverpool or New York in a taxi? The cars aren't low mileage immaculate vehicles.They're driven by multiple drivers all around the clock.Only reasonably clean by my standards.You lads think we are a limo service for taxi prices.
Where did all the drivers go?...
This isn't in order or entirely coherant but should give yis an idea.
There's always been lots of churn in the taxi industry.Drivers come and go.
Tougher taxi exam meant those who left after the recession to go back to work in other industries may have lapsed their PSV driver licence.The 250 renewal fee made it expensive to keep as a back up plan.Now they simply aren't able to pass the exam without a lot of work.So don't come back or are unable to pass the exam.
As far as I know(always open to correction) international students can't drive taxis on student visas.They aren't allowed to be self employed.That removed a good few rental drivers instantly.
Also the requirement to maintain tax clearance all year round may have removed some drivers behind on their returns by a few years or the ones on the labour thanks to the driver app.
When I started nearly eleven years ago there were lots of elderly drivers.?Maybe 50/60 years plus.Many who were ex hacks.Many have simply passed away or got too sick or afraid to drive full time.The apps mean they have to do longer hours for less money so they may not be tech savvy enough to move with the times.They're pushing 70 now so it's game over for some.No doubt the ten year rule plays a part but it's not the sole reason.
Quite simply we were losing 500(I think) active driver licences per year at one stage and there weren't even half of that getting through the newer exam.
I'll think of more stuff later but I'm busy..
Insurance cost has been the biggest barrier to entry in the last 2/3 years. Many passed the geography test but could not get get in because of
insurance - i know a who were quoted 10k and gave up.
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You'd wanna to be thick as shit to go to the hassle of passing the harder exam before getting a quote for insurance.Glad they didn't make it.
If they wanted a renter could have gotten them insured for as little as 3k on a block policy.
Just to add I was getting insurance quotes about six months before I bought my plate.Which was about a year before I got on the road.
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Rat firstly I would have no desire to remain beyond 70 years of age (even if I made it to that) and secondly I assure you I don't know anyone of any influence
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Don't understand where 70 or any other age is coming from , if your fit, willing and able there should be no problem with you going about your business.
BTW I've a brother 75 years of age and he still driving his Truck !
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There's probably a loada prams and bicycle frames under the truck axles going back years now STC.
But seriously how do you define fit and healthy anyway?Good eyesight.A working heart.Someone that age could be hiding dementia from everyone around them for years.Nobody knows until there's an accident and he's driving the wrong way up the M50.
I hope yer brother stays healthy for another 30 years.
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I suggest 70 because it seem like a realistic age to protect driver, and customer plus hopefully it would give the retiring driver a few years of well earned rest
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There's probably a loada prams and bicycle frames under the truck axles going back years now STC.
But seriously how do you define fit and healthy anyway?Good eyesight.A working heart.Someone that age could be hiding dementia from everyone around them for years.Nobody knows until there's an accident and he's driving the wrong way up the M50.
I hope yer brother stays healthy for another 30 years.
He has to renew his driving licence every year, and get a doctor to certify he is OK, he also tells me he dont need Viagra so he must be OK
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There's probably a loada prams and bicycle frames under the truck axles going back years now STC.
But seriously how do you define fit and healthy anyway?Good eyesight.A working heart.Someone that age could be hiding dementia from everyone around them for years.Nobody knows until there's an accident and he's driving the wrong way up the M50.
I hope yer brother stays healthy for another 30 years.
He has to renew his driving licence every year, and get a doctor to certify he is OK, he also tells me he dont need Viagra so he must be OK
The Viagra would allow him take both hands off the steering wheel!
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There's probably a loada prams and bicycle frames under the truck axles going back years now STC.
But seriously how do you define fit and healthy anyway?Good eyesight.A working heart.Someone that age could be hiding dementia from everyone around them for years.Nobody knows until there's an accident and he's driving the wrong way up the M50.
I hope yer brother stays healthy for another 30 years.
He has to renew his driving licence every year, and get a doctor to certify he is OK, he also tells me he dont need Viagra so he must be OK
The Viagra would allow him take both hands off the steering wheel!
And use it as a horn
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Don't understand where 70 or any other age is coming from , if your fit, willing and able there should be no problem with you going about your business.
Tiocfaidh a lá agus smaoineoidh siad go difriúi
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Another bleeding foregner speak English ffs Bob..
I'm sure yous are all excellent drivers.But if yis weren't how would anyone know until there's an accident.
I posted about an old posh geezer working for ebbs in a rental during the bad years.Lost his millions somehow.Marbles in his mouth and everything when he spoke.He hit two cyclists and a motorbike in Ringsend one day before he packed it in.Three separate accidents.The lads reckoned he was at least 80 because he used to own some arcade around Francis street when they were kids.
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laffin.
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Another bleeding foregner speak English ffs Bob..
I'm sure yous are all excellent drivers.But if yis weren't how would anyone know until there's an accident.
I posted about an old posh geezer working for ebbs in a rental during the bad years.Lost his millions somehow.Marbles in his mouth and everything when he spoke.He hit two cyclists and a motorbike in Ringsend one day before he packed it in.Three separate accidents.The lads reckoned he was at least 80 because he used to own some arcade around Francis street when they were kids.
Someone hit the jackpot! 8)