Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Octavia1 on April 29, 2020, 11:38:57 am
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=98Y1upsb1ZU
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She deserves a good kick up the
https://www.thejournal.ie/agsi-drew-harris-livestream-covid-19-gemma-o-doherty-5086643-Apr2020/ (https://www.thejournal.ie/agsi-drew-harris-livestream-covid-19-gemma-o-doherty-5086643-Apr2020/)
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Her voice would go through ye......is she still working for a newspaper....and who's funding their(Waters) court case?
Is she getting the 350 per week i wonder!!
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Well I'm a member of her party the Irish freedom party, and on this issue she doesn't speak for me
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She deserves a good kick up the
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Brave coppers standing in front of the car.The wrong person might drive on and bring them up to Heuston station on the bonnet.
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I confess to having a very juvenile chip on my shoulder when it comes to the guards, and I am uncomfortable about being questioned about my travel habits, but I quite reluctantly accept the current situation, and accept that the guards are doing what they are instructed to do by the government , and for the mjority of them, with courtesy.
It's clear that Gemma is not a very nice person, and states her case in very hot flushed manner.
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The woman is unhinged
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Show me your
friends party members, and I'll tell you who you are.
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Herself and Walters are vile fame seeking wasters BUT BUT BUT The High Court has agreed to hear their case against the Lockdown They did not just dismiss the challenge as having no merit .What is happening now is Unconstitutional Garda with powers to arrest you for being 2k outside your own home that is akin to House Arrest .And if you want to see how unconstitutional things have become FF/FG refusing to let elected members of the Dail SF into government while sharing their document with every other Elected Member .
Becarefull you dont confuse the People with the principle .
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She deserves a good kick up the
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Ah Liz c'mon you know
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She deserves a good kick up the
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Up the gee......ye gooter!!
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She deserves a good kick up the
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Up the gee......ye gooter!!
That's a little rude Hal, your foot might get stuck
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The woman is unhinged
A Foxrock Bint.
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She deserves a good kick up the
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Up the gee......ye gooter!!
That's a little rude Hal, your foot might get stuck
My left foot?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=98Y1upsb1ZU
stupid cunt.
should be at home makin the fuckin dinner.
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Brave coppers standing in front of the car.The wrong person might drive on and bring them up to Heuston station on the bonnet.
Yes ......at least it highlights the discrepancies witin the guards health and safety policy .......should have a stinger 100 yards up the road and a bloke with an AK 47
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Well I'm a member of her party the Irish freedom party, and on this issue she doesn't speak for me
When did she join your party and why did they take her in? She stood as an independent at the last general election in Fingal and only attracted a handful of votes, mostly from the south of the constituency. I don't think she has a lot to offer but I guess she demonstrated that in the way she folded and told the Garda where she was going within 36 seconds of refusing... reminds me of Justin Barrett when he was run out of the beautiful seaside resort town of Balbriggan during the election campaign.
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rule one of being an adult.
if you want respect, you give respect.
stupid cunt.
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Didn't know Barrett was run out of ballbriggin. I suppose when the population of that town is 90% foreign, then it's no surprise
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Where did you get that figure from? It was born and bred locals who ran him...
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That's surprising just the same
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Why... because you think 90% of the population is foreign... I guess the Irish Freedom Party told you that.... I would say I'm surprised that your thick enough to believe it but I'm not.
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No it wasn't the IFP, it was a radio show based on ballbriggin hosted by Pat Kenny, and highlighting the exceptionally high influx of foreign natuinals to the town. It was done to mark the positive contrabution made by this community
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It's one of the most racially diverse towns in Ireland, if not the most. However that equates to approx 15% immigrants including Brits and Europeans. I'm surprised Pat Kenny got the figure that wrong but I would agree that they have contributed to the community in a positive way. Hence the likes of O'Doherty, Barrett and Waters attracted the wrath of locals when they tried to congregate. Do you have a link to the programme, I might ask Pat to clarify what was clearly a misprint read blindly?
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Well I no longer have a problem with migrants, since they saved my life, so they are all welcome as far as I'm concerned, and they for the most part do make a positive contrabution particularly the medical staff
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Don't tell the IFP, you'll be unceremoniously fucked out. Do you have a link to the programme Pat gave the 90% figure in?
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No I don't it was on his morning radio show, about 9 months ago. I don't think the IFP would throw me out, because to do so would undermine the fundamental principle of democracy, and after all the party is a believer in free speech
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What radio station was it on and are you sure he said 90%?
They would expel you. They only believe in Free Hate Speech.
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In fact, didn't you say Gemma O'Doherty is in that party now? She held a public meeting in the beautiful seaside resort town of Balbriggan during the last general election campaign and the public were refused entry... and, all of those who tried to enter were white and Irish by accident of birth, I was one myself, the rest were mostly locals, maybe one or two other blow ins from the city but no immigrants.
Hardly promoting free speech?
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Yeah ok
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Are you saying you are sure? Can you remember what radio station it was on?
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No in saying I don't want to argue anymore your right whatever you say
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I'm not arguing. I'm merely trying to establish where the 90% figure came from. I find it odd that Pat would get the figure that wrong - although he isn't known as the plank for nothing, if he did he obviously misread the piece of paper his researchers gave him. However, given that he fancys himself as a "broadsheet" journalist he might not realise that some of his listeners are thick enough to believe something even that ridiculous.
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Well I suggest you ring Newstalk if you want more info
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I sent him an email as below. I'll let you know if he replies... I don't listen to his show so if he chooses to reply on air rather than by email I won't hear it but you might.
Hi Pat,
I’m told that, during a recent show, you claimed that 90% of the population of Balbriggan is “foreign”. I would be obliged if you could clarify if that is what you said and, if so, how you defined “foreign” to arrive at that (frankly ridiculous) figure?
Kind Regards,
Stephen O’Connell.
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Well I hope you get a reply well done
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I vaguely remember that program. IIRC, it was broadcast from a school and it might have been the school that had the massive diversity. I think a lot of public schools in new neighbourhoods and towns are similar.
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Well I no longer have a problem with migrants, since they saved my life, so they are all welcome as far as I'm concerned, and they for the most part do make a positive contrabution particularly the medical staff
Jesus daily ...did yu let a negroni..... cut ya open ??? ??? ???
Yur bot a racist atall atall....
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Most of the schools have some diversity but there would be a concentration in the Educate Together. However, even that wouldn't be 90% despite being colloquially referred to as the black school. Maybe Pat will clarify in due course but my own suspicions is that DM got the erm end of the stick.
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https://www.newstalk.com/news/welcome-to-balbriggan-917766 (https://www.newstalk.com/news/welcome-to-balbriggan-917766)
The Pat Kenny Show goes to Ireland’s youngest, fastest growing, and most diverse town – Balbriggan.
We meet the locals who have been there all their lives, and those newly arrived.
And we ask how Ireland is doing when it comes to integrating new culture into our society.
There's 3 video's/podcasts, approx 20mins each
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I couldn't suffer an hour of the plank, I dislike him with a passion. Hopefully he'll clarify by email.
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She deserves a good kick up the
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Ah Liz c'mon you know
Bunghole?
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Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world
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Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world
Agreed 100% I'm amazed and saddened every day by this bullshit world we are now living in and how everybody seems to think they have the right to interfere in everybody elses lives ..........................welcome to the new soviet Ireland.... people will get what they deserve but sadly they will be too brainwashed to realise what's really happening........... their children and grandchildren will pay the price. ::rant ...quisling ??? had to look that one up ! pretty accurate though ..
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Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world
Is that you johnny ???
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Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world
Yuv a good point about Sweden charmer ....they appear to have roughly the same ammount of cases and deaths as us ....at the moment but they have twice our population so I wonder how they will explain that .....
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Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world
Yuv a good point about Sweden charmer ....they appear to have roughly the same ammount of cases and deaths as us ....at the moment but they have twice our population so I wonder how they will explain that .....
we appear to have the same amount of cases and deaths as they do but yet we have only half their population . I wonder how we will explain that ?
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Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world
Yuv a good point about Sweden charmer ....they appear to have roughly the same ammount of cases and deaths as us ....at the moment but they have twice our population so I wonder how they will explain that .....
They won't. ABBA has been banned off RTE in case it might lead to Paddy hearing the word Sweden. This is a bleedin scam and takedown. How many weeks more of this madness before you think things take a turn for the irreparable. Start thinking of Varadkar as pure evil personified/lying khunt and you're well on your way to waking to fk up
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Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world
Yuv a good point about Sweden charmer ....they appear to have roughly the same ammount of cases and deaths as us ....at the moment but they have twice our population so I wonder how they will explain that .....
we appear to have the same amount of cases and deaths as they do but yet we have only half their population . I wonder how we will explain that ?
They won't explain because they're not being asked by a corrupt and complicit media. And the only people asking about it, Waters and O Doherty are being painted as social pariahs with dumbfk Paddy wanting them arrested. We deserve what we get.
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How are you finding business at the moment, CSD.... and what are you learning from clients i.e. are the journeys largely covered within essential/permitted travel guidelines?
We’ll have a lot to learn from many countries around the world as time progresses. That will be a job for the civil service, the unelected bureaucrats in Europe and the WHO. In the meantime we cannot underestimate the importance of following the advice of our local Govt. They and their experts know how quickly or slowly we can afford to allow the virus spread, most particularly in accordance with HSE front line capacity.
New Zealand is probably the most interesting case in terms of slowing the spread. In fact its stringent restrictions on movement and borders have come as close as is probably reasonably possible to stopping rather than slowing the spread. With a similar population to Ireland it has only recorded 1,129 cases and 19 deaths.
Sweden might not seem like a great example with 20,302 cases and 2,462 deaths compared to Ireland’s 20,253 cases and 1,190 deaths. However, as noted above, its policy has been focussed on a faster spread with a lot of eggs in the community immunity basket which may become increasingly relevant going forward. It has issued most of the social distancing advice as us i.e. work from home where possible, only travel where essential, etc and it has placed a ban on gatherings of 50 or more people. Obviously, with significantly higher alcohol prices than us it doesn’t share our pub/cafe culture and didn’t opt to close those businesses.
So, what can we learn from Sweden? Sweden’s tax to GDP ratio is c.44% compared to our 22%. Higher taxation facilitates greater redistribution of wealth, increased pension provision and greater investment in public services like education and healthcare. All of those factors could contribute to being better prepared going forward.
If we look at Denmark we find a country with a similar tax to GDP ratio as Sweden in the same geographical area and similar cultural traits. Denmark’s population is c.55% of that of Sweden and it has experienced 9,008 coronavirus cases with 443 deaths, both figures obviously significantly lower on a per capita basis. The fact that Denmark implemented more stringent “lockdown” measures than Sweden suggests that such measures do work, at least as a method of rationing demands for healthcare and funeral services.
The case for significantly higher taxation is probably clear at this stage but who knows what else we might learn. What would the fake media say if doctors start prescribing Dettol and Domestos transfusions become commonplace on our hospital wards?
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we appear to have the same amount of cases and deaths as they do but yet we have only half their population . I wonder how we will explain that ?
Appearances can de deceptive. We have a similar number of cases but our death rate is significantly lower. We have 1,190 deaths and they have 2,462. If we do the math we find that their death rate is more than double ours and that our death rate is less than half of theirs. Hardly similar?
Denmark, on the other hand, has experienced 443 deaths. Doing the math again, that is less than half of our death rate and our death rate is more than double that rate. Factor in the fact that Denmark has a higher population than us (c. one million higher) and the math becomes more interesting. Delving a bit deeper into our calculators we find that Denmark has a tax to GDP ratio of 45% compared to our 22%. The math here tells us that our tax to GDP ratio is less than half of that in Denmark or Sweden (c.44%) and that the Danes and the Swedes tax to GDP ratios are more than double ours.
All of that boring stuff that underlies the impression you got from appearances. It seems to suggest that more stringent "lockdown" restrictions could have more than halved the death rate in Sweden, brining it significantly below our death rate.
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Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world
I don't know where to start, what complete and utter claptrap ....
Try this for starters: Sweden doing ok? my hole they are
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-29/is-sweden-s-lack-of-coronavirus-lockdown-a-fatal-mistake/ (https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-29/is-sweden-s-lack-of-coronavirus-lockdown-a-fatal-mistake/)
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Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world
I don't know where to start, what complete and utter claptrap ....
Try this for starters: Sweden doing ok? my hole they are
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-29/is-sweden-s-lack-of-coronavirus-lockdown-a-fatal-mistake/ (https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-29/is-sweden-s-lack-of-coronavirus-lockdown-a-fatal-mistake/)
Deaths 1M population
Sweden 244
Ireland 241
USA 186
UK 384
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Yeeee HAWWWWW How deee partners .Look at Texas USA big population low death rate its simple all you need is to corrupt how you count the dead .You cannot compare any two countries as every country has a different way of counting the Casualties ,Britain only counts HOSPITAL deaths they were not including people who died outside hospitals as they said they had not be diagnosed and if they were they would of been hospitalized .Big Dommo is using the Motor Mart index the price of used cars will come down as widows sell their dead husbands pride and joy .Probably a more accurate measure .
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Deaths 1M population
Sweden 244
Ireland 241
USA 186
UK 384
Denmark 76 (Seventy-Six)
New Zealand 4 (Four)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/)
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Strange as it may seem you are partially right to some - however insignificant - extent, erm. Comparisons across geographical areas will become relevant or more relevant when officials and statisticians can account for such discrepancies.
However, there's nothing surprising in a lot of what we are seeing, setting New Zealand aside as an exceptional case. It's clear that those with higher tax to GDP ratios have more options when it comes to controlling the rate of spread. With our low ratio we were caught flat footed. Minister Harris had to sprint from hospital to hospital with eviction notices in hand and we had to slow the spread twice so far. To avoid that going forward we will (or would) require very significant increases in taxation. Obviously, we should be looking at Denmark's conservatively controlled spread and (in the fullness of time) Sweden's community immunity gamble. Either way we should (but won't) aim for a grown up economy with a tax to GDP ratio in excess of 40%.
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Where do you get 22% for Irish tax rate .We operate a much wider tax taking apparatus than basic income tax we have one of the highest tax rates on Fuel,Alcohol ,VRT,VAT in the world our notional tax is in excess of 50% .The problem is where our tax is wasted .I see figures for the Toll Bridges and Toll roads are so low that the Government Income Guarentee Scheme has been triggered and tens of millions of Euro will be handed over to PPPs partners .Dublin Bus and Irish Rail are recieving tens of millions in subsidies to run ghost busses as the contract says if they do not provide the service they will be fined on a daily rate .700 million in folding notes going to be paid over to private hospitals for beds that wont be used .I even hear from one of my sources the Government are still paying a well known hotel full rates to retain 15 rooms that they always have available for visiting diplomats even though the hotel is closed and has limited staff .
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OECD - latest published figure. Could be lower now given the downward trend.
https://www.oecd.org/tax/revenue-statistics-ireland.pdf (https://www.oecd.org/tax/revenue-statistics-ireland.pdf)
In 2018, Ireland had a tax-to-GDP ratio of 22.3% compared with the OECD average of 34.3%. ... The corresponding figure for the OECD average was a slight increase of 0.1 percentage point from 34.2% to 34.3% over the same period. The tax-to-GDP ratio in Ireland has decreased from 30.8% in 2000 to 22.3% in 2018.
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Whats the tax rate for GNP .
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0% i.e. it's not taxed as such. If you mean ratio I've never come across such a measure, check with OECD.
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....the other ting to factor in is ....they are an unsociable bunch high divorce rates and all live in one bed apartment and dont drink like we does mingling in pubs as ratty said .......yur one out of ABBA is a renowned recluse ...it seems they dont crave much affection or interaction....probably sumtin to do wit ther protestant heritage
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I went out wit a protestant mot once ...an despite the rumours..... I didn't even get a feel of her diddies
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Just to be perfectly clear, I'm not suggesting we dismiss the Swedish approach - we know very little about how community immunity will play out going forward. We certainly need to pay heed to the Danish approach i.e. stringent "lockdown" controls off the back of a tax to GDP ratio of 45%. Obviously having our ratio at 22% isn't a good starting point. There's certainly a case for increasing duty on alcohol which may further erode our dinking culture and by implication introduce a degree of back door social distancing. We also need to look at a broader tax base - free drinking quality water seems mad given that the majority buy bottled water for drinking, for example. Carbon taxes could present another reasonable target for the exchequer - a per nautical mile surcharge on air fares seems logical for a start.
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Now, who wants to participate in Government!
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Just to be perfectly clear, I'm not suggesting we dismiss the Swedish approach - we know very little about how community immunity will play out going forward. We certainly need to pay heed to the Danish approach i.e. stringent "lockdown" controls off the back of a tax to GDP ratio of 45%. Obviously having our ratio at 22% isn't a good starting point. There's certainly a case for increasing duty on alcohol which may further erode our dinking culture and by implication introduce a degree of back door social distancing. We also need to look at a broader tax base - free drinking quality water seems mad given that the majority buy bottled water for drinking, for example. Carbon taxes could present another reasonable target for the exchequer - a per nautical mile surcharge on air fares seems logical for a start.
LPT should be increased.
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I wonder if they're still going to collect it in May or will Leo give us another break.
There's certainly a case for a significant health levy, maybe starting at 25% (on all income i.e. no free allowance) with a view to sliding back to 10% over a 3 year period. Govt has shown that it will look after us when the excrement comes into contact with the spinning turbine so there shouldn't be too much reluctance to pay. Funds raised should be ring fenced to health with a revised Slawntya Care plan to take over all private hospitals, hospices and nursing homes. Demand for private health insurance is going to plummet anyway given that Govt has already shown that it will fuck the private patients out of their beds at the drop of a cough.
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The Shinners have released a statement:
The Virus hasn't gone away y'know?
We are are monitoring the sitteeayshun.
Ends.
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The Shinners have released a statement:
The Virus hasn't gone away y'know?
We are are monitoring the sitteeayshun.
Ends.
BOOM BOOM!!
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The Shinners have released a statement:
The Virus hasn't gone away y'know?
We are are monitoring the sitteeayshun.
Ends.
BOOM BOOM!!
They're erecting a statue to Bang Bang! 8)
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And rightly so. We're ya ever shot with the key silver ?
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And rightly so. We're ya ever shot with the key silver ?
We're not all bleedin pensioners!! lol
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The Shinners have released a statement:
The Virus hasn't gone away y'know?
We are are monitoring the sitteeayshun.
Ends.
rofl
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Yeah, lads but Sweden hasn't had a police-state lockdown and it's doing no worse than us and arguably better. Does anyone think that this can go on much longer without apocalyptic economic consequences. Opening up isn't advisable just so we can knock back a few roasters down the local off a weekend. If we don't, there's going to be a lot more dedders from the fall out that happens when the magic money stops showing up in the ATM.....Social distancing is never going to work in the schools etc in this kip. So who are they trying to fool and what are they trying to pull?
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Sweden are not better than us. We are testing more than twice the amount of people than Sweden. Things won't look so good in a few weeks for them.
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The stated objective is to manage the spread of the virus so HSE frontline services can cope with demand. Obviously, as you have pointed out, a significantly higher tax to GDP ratio would have opened up more options, particularly at a strategic level. However, that's something that can't be addressed retrospectively.
We know that Sweden has experienced twice as many deaths per 1,000 cases as us and we know that our health service could not have coped with that level given that it has been close to capacity at half that level. Hence, from our starting point - not a hospital bed free in the entire nation - I think we can all agree that Government has managed the situation extremely well. Given the relatively substantial, no questions asked, welfare payments that many of us now claim I think it's safe to conclude that Government has demonstrated that it can and will look after us in difficult times. That's extremely important when we consider the observations from your published study on Scandinavia.
As we extrapolate your findings to include data from Denmark we see a very significantly lower death rate - 76 per million compared with 242 per million in Sweden. We could, of course, draw the obvious conclusion that Denmark's police State style "lockdown" presents a far better model than the Swedish less stringent approach. However, that would be somewhat disrespectful to the intellectual substance of your headline argument and would prematurely dismiss the potential benefits of community immunity.
At this juncture we can, however, conclude with little doubt that we can learn a lot from Scandinavian culture and, in particular, it's taxation culture. Swedes and Danes pay a lot of tax and, most interestingly, they are happy to do that because they know Govt will look after them when they need looking after. Our Govt has, during this pandemic, borrowed money to show us that it can and will look after us. Establishing that trust opens up a range of options including implementation of a radical review of taxation strategy going forward.
You have done your country some service.
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Grab yourself a Mug O Tae Rodent till I run this idea up the Flagpole and see who salutes .Are you sitting comfortablly ?Then Ill begin .The Good people of Sweden and Germany had one big advantage over the Irish and Italians .They are anti social ignorant cunts thats their National character .A few years ago meself herself Big Dommo and his Hen at the time went on Holiday to somewhere sunny and we were in an upmarket hotel with Swedes and Germans .Dommo is down by the pool getting gargle from the poolside bar and these two oul ones are standing at the bar waiting for Two halfs of Lager Dommo gives them the Big Hello and they looked at him wondering where was his carer .They couldnt believe that a stranger would just walk up to you in a Q and start talking . Thats what the Swedes were depending on they are ignorant insular cunts .Think about it .When was the last time you talked to anybody from Sweden or Germany ,they just get in the car show you a destination on a map or give you the hotel address .Nothing to do with their tax rate just their ignorance .Germans dont talk to each other in case somebody mentions the War .
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Strange as it may seem you are to some - however insignificant - extent correct, erm. However, high taxation is part of that insular culture and it is the high tax to GDP ratio that affords them the luxury of having options when disaster hits. With our hospital beds overflowing onto trolleys we had no room to experiment with this pandemic. We had to slow the spread and then slow the spread again and that was after evicting 72% of patients from hospitals and stealing privately paid for beds from under the bottoms of sick people in supposedly private hospitals who thought they had health insurance.
Proper Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance - the 5 Ps - is what we need to take from this whole experience. We need to tax more and transform the entire healthcare service into a Public system. We need to trust our Government to look after us and give them the resources (our money) to do that. The new "normal" probably will be more insular anyway with some form of social distancing incorporated. Higher taxation on alcohol, for example, could further erode our pub culture and introduce a degree of social distancing via the back door.
I think what CSD is getting at is that we need to learn from the Scandinavians whether we like them or not.
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6 bottles of selected wine in Tesco for €40!!
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... if it was €80 you'd still buy it... at least as long as Govt is giving you 3 and a half ton a week.
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Strange as it may seem you are to some - however insignificant - extent correct, erm. However, high taxation is part of that insular culture and it is the high tax to GDP ratio that affords them the luxury of having options when disaster hits. With our hospital beds overflowing onto trolleys we had no room to experiment with this pandemic. We had to slow the spread and then slow the spread again and that was after evicting 72% of patients from hospitals and stealing privately paid for beds from under the bottoms of sick people in supposedly private hospitals who thought they had health insurance.
Proper Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance - the 5 Ps - is what we need to take from this whole experience. We need to tax more and transform the entire healthcare service into a Public system. We need to trust our Government to look after us and give them the resources (our money) to do that. The new "normal" probably will be more insular anyway with some form of social distancing incorporated. Higher taxation on alcohol, for example, could further erode our pub culture and introduce a degree of social distancing via the back door.
I think what CSD is getting at is that we need to learn from the Scandinavians whether we like them or not.
Ah the accountant in you always making adjustments .....Proper Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance - the 5 Ps ..How many Ps .
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I taxed them.
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I taxed them.
Sure ye haven't got the ermy virus!!
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.Can you put that into paragraphs ?
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And no vaccine for it either!!
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Not a link to b seen
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A dramatic cultural shift within the administration side of the health service is required before more money is thrown at it. Ther is huge waste in purchasing. I have no reason to disbelieve it, when told of staff getting their homes painted on the same invoice as ward painting. The RTE program a few years ago highlighted show management getting holidays in Spain for buying curtains at 10 times the available price.
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A dramatic cultural shift within the administration side of the health service is required before more money is thrown at it. Ther is huge waste in purchasing. I have no reason to disbelieve it, when told of staff getting their homes painted on the same invoice as ward painting. The RTE program a few years ago highlighted show management getting holidays in Spain for buying curtains at 10 times the available price.
The senior manager at Beaumont Hospital is a former Porter allegedly, go figure.
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An......theres more
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6 bottles of selected wine in Tesco for €40!!
Better still , 6 bottles of selected wines at Tesco for €50
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You'd still buy it if it was a ton... at least while Govt is giving you 3 and a half per week.
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Im writing a new book....How drink saved our marriage....anybody on here got a few ideas for me?
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Im writing a new book....How drink saved our marriage....anybody on here got a few ideas for me?
I might have...when i sober up!!
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Why would you do that?
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Im not really....just being a smartass,,, ::blond
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Not you, Hal...
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Why would you do that?
I didn't say i would .....
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Were you drunk?
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6 bottles of selected wine in Tesco for €40!!
At last the voice of reason ,,,,,,,,,,,
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Im writing a new book....How drink saved our marriage....anybody on here got a few ideas for me?
If you need a Proof reader... l