Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: watty on May 01, 2020, 08:05:04 pm
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At a glance: What restrictions are going to be lifted and when? (https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0501/1136167-road-map-details/) (RTE)
Phase One makes no mention of anything 'indoors'.
Phase Two (8 June)
Up to four people will be allowed visit other households for a "short period" while maintaining social distancing
Phase Three (29 June)
Phase in the opening of all other non-essential retail outlets on basis of restriction on the number of staff and customers per square metre so that social distancing can be maintained
Phase Four (20 July)
Commence loosening restrictions on higher-risk services like hairdressers and barbers that involve direct physical contact for periods of time between people and for which there is a population-wide demand.
We work in a small enclosed metal box. I'm interested in the number of staff/customers per sq.meter idea (29 June). Would that apply to us? As I mentioned in another thread, it's approx 60cm & 90cm from me to my front seat and rear seat passenger, respectively. And my taxi is 1.5 meters wide on the outside.
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The big question is how long is the covid 19 payment going to last? That's when most lads will beside when their going back to work...
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Smart lad u
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The big question is how long is the covid 19 payment going to last? That's when most lads will beside when their going back to work...
yay
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The big question is how long is the covid 19 payment going to last? That's when most lads will beside when their going back to work...
After the 12 weeks, then the sharking and pillaging will begin.
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Smart lad u
just answering the question which was asked... So is it a stupid question that was asked or are you just an arse hole?
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Just listening to Leo on with Tubbers,looks like the payments will be extended...but no detail.
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Just listening to Leo on with Tubbers,looks like the payments will be extended...but no detail.
The devil is in the detail, I wouldn't get too excited yet !!
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He was ill prepared for the Late Late - actually had to fumble through his pockets to find the one page summary in words of less than 3 syllables that the civil servants had produced in pretty colours. To be fair, I guess it was Tubridy so he was probably expecting to discuss how his sourdough starter is going and how good his boyfriend's fairy cakes taste.
However, he made a couple of interesting (what we can only describe as) observations in noting that the payments can't continue for much longer at their current level before suggesting that they will probably have to be extended in respect of workers who aren't permitted to return to work. That last bit may well exclude us as we are, as essential workers, allowed to work. Might be a good time for older drivers to get in touch with Age Action and/or Vinny Kearns.
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Thanks for that Rat Catcher...Vinny will get you back on 1000 a week in no time. ??????
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The grand doesn't interest me but it's there for those who want to work full-time. It was Vinny who got us the €350 (well, €203 back then) so I'm hoping his advocacy will keep me on that for a while.
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My guess it will be reviewed every 4 weeks so we may get the first 4 --they will knock of the wage support earlier --workforce will claim health and safety risks if they can so they can stay home and enjoy the summer on full pay !
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(https://i.postimg.cc/vxBQNX3G/IMG-20200502-WA0002.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vxBQNX3G)
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If one followed the advice in that graphic, we won't be going back until the end of June?
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If one followed the advice in that graphic, we won't be going back until the end of June?
This is how you spell June.......A.U.G.U.S.T!!
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Not sure where you're getting that from, Watty. We are classed as essential workers so we haven't officially gone away... Thankfully, Vinny Kearns done a good job in convincing the powers that be that we should be entitled to COVID '19 dole. I doubt that will last forever though.
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Look at the graphic Bob Shillin posted and the dates 8th & 29th June. (I'm getting my excuses in early) but it seems to me 29th June is the transition period when the 2m social distancing is relaxed a bit. You and I have Octavia's. The distance from me to my passengers is roughly 70cm (front) and 90cm (rear). Until that 2m social distancing rule is relaxed, it could be argued I/we would be breaking Govt guidelines if we did choose to work, essential service or not.
Also, I think we both missed the first week or two of the emergency payment. If I've done my maths right, *my* 12 weeks emergency payment runs out at the end of June anyways... Could be karma?
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Unfortunately, they've already clarified that the 12 weeks is universal not personal i.e. it will end 12 weeks after it was introduced... although it may well be extended for non essential workers who are not permitted to return to work, possibly at a substantially reduced rate. Of course, nothing is set in stone so, conversely, it may be terminated earlier for workers like us who are permitted to work. Leo indicated that he will be passing on advice regarding face coverings where the physical distance aspect of social distancing cannot be maintained e.g. for public transport.
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Unfortunately, they've already clarified that the 12 weeks is universal not personal i.e. it will end 12 weeks after it was introduced...
Didn't realise that. One can dream :P Having said that, what about the approx 4,000 airline workers who found out from Ryanair/Aer Lingus on International Workers Day that they were going to lose their jobs? They won't accept the 'normal' ~€203 dole money.
Anyways, don't think I could have stuck it out until the end of June. Was thinking mid-May myself for going back to work.
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^ just to add insult to injury I found out that my initial application wasn't received or wasn't processed the day after they decided to stop backdating payments... although I was told I could go cap in hand to the local welfare office but decided against that as I assumed household income and/or bank accounts would be looked at in such circumstances. Not sure about that though... I often forget advice I got from an old boss when I was a young man... never assume the left hand knows what the right hand is doing, that's not how things work in Ireland and if it was there'd be no need for accountants or financial advisers....
I think the Ryanair / Are Lingus workers can claim the €350... unless they've altered the rules again?
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I'm (at least mentally) committed to idling till the end of May, at least. I'd stay off forever if they kept giving me 3 and a half a week. I rediscovered the fact that I'm not really cut out for work!
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I'm in two minds. The 'free' money is great 'n all but I can't help feeling they'll want some or all of it back once I stick in an proper application form.
That's my main worry - that they'll ask for the grand or two back. It'll be a triple whammy - no income for 2 months, a bill for the 'free' money, and maybe a problem then with getting tax clearance for my next Suitability...
Anyways, I'm off to watch a movie (https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/6479-i-am-legend?language=en-US) about the only survivor of a pandemic in New York. Or maybe he's not the only survivor...
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My situation is that I'll be 66 on 29th June , (if I live) and that is also the day state pension kicks in
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My situation is that I'll be 66 on 29th June , (if I live) and that is also the day state pension kicks in
See my Mainly Pensioners post.
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Without spoiling it for those who may want to watch... did the survivor drink Dettol or inject Domestos, Watty?
I'm suffering Britains Got Talent right now but I'll watch Maze (again) - supported by your licence fee - later.
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Yeah looking forward to it, what time is it at ?
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In 10 mins... RTE1.... or in 70 mins on RTE1+1, not to be confused with RTE2.
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Speaking to a guy from one of the banks during the week--says the support staff working from home are screwing them,doing as little as possible !
He insisted he wanted his team back in office as all health and safety issues dealt with--union insisted requirement for danger money--press said similar about AIB !
See in States where beef processors are paying $1000 monthly bonus to anyone who works the full month--Larry Goodman--Bert Allen and their buddies may have to do the same as cattle need killing --while EU is heading for beef/butter mountains--wine lakes --nobody demand for high end products !
Milk is being dumped while people starve as it cant be processed--this is not over by a long chalk !
Its going to need deft handling--just as weather not bad !
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Look at the graphic Bob Shillin posted and the dates 8th & 29th June. (I'm getting my excuses in early) but it seems to me 29th June is the transition period when the 2m social distancing is relaxed a bit. You and I have Octavia's. The distance from me to my passengers is roughly 70cm (front) and 90cm (rear). Until that 2m social distancing rule is relaxed, it could be argued I/we would be breaking Govt guidelines if we did choose to work, essential service or not.
Also, I think we both missed the first week or two of the emergency payment. If I've done my maths right, *my* 12 weeks emergency payment runs out at the end of June anyways... Could be karma?
I think that you are making the mistake of thinking that when the powers that be refer to "public transport" that taxis are even in their consciousness.
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I think that you are making the mistake of thinking that when the powers that be refer to "public transport" that taxis are even in their consciousness.
You're not wrong there Bob!!
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My situation is that I'll be 66 on 29th June , (if I live) and that is also the day state pension kicks in
DM one especially for you to celebrate the 29th June.
A pensioner drove his brand new Mercedes to 100 mph, looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a police car behind him. He floored it to 140 , then 150, ... then 155, ... Suddenly he thought, "I'm too old for this nonsense !" So he pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the police car to catch up with him.
The officer walked up to him, looked at his watch and said, "Sir, my shift ends in ten minutes. Today is Friday and I'm taking off for the weekend with my family. If you can give me a good reason that I've never heard before, why you were speeding... I'll let you go."
The Man looked very seriously at the police man, and replied :- "Years ago, my wife ran off with a policeman, I thought you were bringing her back." !!!
The Cop left saying, " Have a good day, Sir "..
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Look at the graphic Bob Shillin posted and the dates 8th & 29th June. (I'm getting my excuses in early) but it seems to me 29th June is the transition period when the 2m social distancing is relaxed a bit. You and I have Octavia's. The distance from me to my passengers is roughly 70cm (front) and 90cm (rear). Until that 2m social distancing rule is relaxed, it could be argued I/we would be breaking Govt guidelines if we did choose to work, essential service or not.
Also, I think we both missed the first week or two of the emergency payment. If I've done my maths right, *my* 12 weeks emergency payment runs out at the end of June anyways... Could be karma?
I think that you are making the mistake of thinking that when the powers that be refer to "public transport" that taxis are even in their consciousness.
I personally don't think we're an essential service. Maybe the city needs a few taxis per day at the moment but it doesn't need 10,000!
One problem might be that there are several 'powers that be'. The Govt 'powers that be' put taxis on the essential service list. The Health 'powers that be' might suggest we don't work because of social distancing. The NTA seem, to me, to be sitting on the fence & saying nuthin'. But what if Social Welfare take a hard line and say we're an 'essential service' & there were a few drivers working so we weren't unemployed.
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I'd say there's a lot of drivers with underlying health problems......mainly mental health!!
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I just fail to see why taxis were deemed to be an essential service. There is no way those drivers could be making enough to justify working unless they are ALSO claiming the 3 and a half I believe most of them are
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It's possible pressure from dispatchers had them deemed to be essiential service
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I say most were getting away from the wife/partner. And another bunch of them were renters (New Irish).
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Funny enough, I didn't see that many foreigners driving, it was mostly auld fellas
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My situation is that I'll be 66 on 29th June , (if I live) and that is also the day state pension kicks in
DM one especially for you to celebrate the 29th June.
A pensioner drove his brand new Mercedes to 100 mph, looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a police car behind him. He floored it to 140 , then 150, ... then 155, ... Suddenly he thought, "I'm too old for this nonsense !" So he pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the police car to catch up with him.
The officer walked up to him, looked at his watch and said, "Sir, my shift ends in ten minutes. Today is Friday and I'm taking off for the weekend with my family. If you can give me a good reason that I've never heard before, why you were speeding... I'll let you go."
The Man looked very seriously at the police man, and replied :- "Years ago, my wife ran off with a policeman, I thought you were bringing her back." !!!
The Cop left saying, " Have a good day, Sir "..
rofl rofl
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I discovered that the guy I've been passing work on to put "part time" on the €350 application form and has been receiving the payment and working (part time) ..interesting?
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Once it puts in a proper application form like we're all supposed to do, the Dept will balance it out and he'll probably have to pay some of the €350 back.
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I thought it was June 16 but from what Rat seems to believe it'll be June 8, pisser
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I say most were getting away from the wife/partner. And another bunch of them were renters (New Irish).
+1.
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I took a longer spin through town yesterday evening and noticed a good few older lads working away.17*** plates with no masks.They looked like pensioners to me.Maybe they think it's all a big hoax.
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I took a longer spin through town yesterday evening and noticed a good few older lads working away.17*** plates with no masks.They looked like pensioners to me.Maybe they think it's all a big hoax.
As per my mainly pensioners post.
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Finally got that ensuite door sorted.....feelin better already about returning to "work"
Might go to Termo beach for my 5k walk today!!
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I took a longer spin through town yesterday evening and noticed a good few older lads working away.17*** plates with no masks.They looked like pensioners to me.Maybe they think it's all a big hoax.
Pensioners cant get 350
They always get pension even when working so they free to work
Only thing is they supposed to be indoors
Lad beside me is 74 out driving says hes getting 120 a day handy
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There's a few oul lads working the city seven days a week.No mortgages just using the taxi as an excuse to get out and meet people.I've never gotten into the taxi for company.Feel a bit sorry for them.
I hope they live long enough to spend all that cash they're hoarding.
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Was talking to an Auld fella like me...Parked up in the Graveyard carpark in Bohnabreena yesterday..Asked him was he taking a break from work.He said no!,,Im taking a break from the wife?...
He headed of for a walk around the Graveyard...Horses for courses
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Fantastic to see the numbers down again today. It's encouraging, but I guess caution still needs to be exercised
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Vintners want to open in June
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0504/1136409-vintners/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0504/1136409-vintners/)
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There's a few oul lads working the city seven days a week.No mortgages just using the taxi as an excuse to get out and meet people.I've never gotten into the taxi for company.Feel a bit sorry for them.
I hope they live long enough to spend all that cash they're hoarding.
Uses the Cab for company, catches COVID 19 has to die alone...a tad ironic.
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They might get their way.The bit about washing their hands every 30 minutes gave me a laugh.Scruffy fukkers.How often were they washing their hands before the lockdown?Every day?
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Scruffy murphys
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They might get their way.The bit about washing their hands every 30 minutes gave me a laugh.Scruffy fukkers.How often were they washing their hands before the lockdown?Every day?
Every 2 days
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Probably.A few months ago I watched a barman wipe his forehead with the same cloth they clean the bar with.Some are filthy fuckers.
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This reminds me a bit of how people stereotype Taxi Drivers
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This reminds me a bit of how people stereotype Taxi Drivers
The sooner we're autonomous the better.
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They're not all in the food business so the standards aren't as high for hygiene.When worked in fast food during my brief student period 20+ years ago I ended up almost OCD about hand washing.Mackers brainwash ya into washing yer hands all the time.
My point is they're handling cash and dirty glasses all day then they're serving customers with the same unwashed hands.
Mopping toilets then serving glasses that we drink from without hand washing.Someone gets the aul scuts and nobody is to answer.
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They're not all in the food business so the standards aren't as high for hygiene.When worked in fast food during my brief student period 20+ years ago I ended up almost OCD about hand washing.Mackers brainwash ya into washing yer hands all the time.
My point is they're handling cash and dirty glasses all day then they're serving customers with the same unwashed hands.
Mopping toilets then serving glasses that we drink from without hand washing.Someone gets the aul scuts and nobody is to answer.
Did you know Gastro Pub is short for Gastroenteritis?
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They're not all in the food business so the standards aren't as high for hygiene.When worked in fast food during my brief student period 20+ years ago I ended up almost OCD about hand washing.Mackers brainwash ya into washing yer hands all the time.
My point is they're handling cash and dirty glasses all day then they're serving customers with the same unwashed hands.
Mopping toilets then serving glasses that we drink from without hand washing.Someone gets the aul scuts and nobody is to answer.
Did you know Gastro Pub is short for Gastroenteritis?
That's Gas SB
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https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/covid-19-payments-not-longterm-18200275 (https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/covid-19-payments-not-longterm-18200275)
I wonder what will happen after June 8th? I was going to keep taking it until end of July because I don't think there will be much happening until then.
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https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/covid-19-payments-not-longterm-18200275 (https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/covid-19-payments-not-longterm-18200275)
I wonder what will happen after June 8th? I was going to keep taking it until end of July because I don't think there will be much happening until then.
Whatever medication you're on ... keep taking it, you're bad enough as it is
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https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/covid-19-payments-not-longterm-18200275 (https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/covid-19-payments-not-longterm-18200275)
I wonder what will happen after June 8th? I was going to keep taking it until end of July because I don't think there will be much happening until then.
Whatever medication you're on ... keep taking it, you're bad enough as it is
What?
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The definition of long term in the financial world according to the aul Google is longer than three years.
I'd say ministers have a pain in their bollox answering questions that they don't know the answer to.
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https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/covid-19-payments-not-longterm-18200275 (https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/covid-19-payments-not-longterm-18200275)
I wonder what will happen after June 8th? I was going to keep taking it until end of July because I don't think there will be much happening until then.
Whatever medication you're on ... keep taking it, you're bad enough as it is
What?
how the fuck should I know? whatever you were planning on taking until the end of July
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350 euro. that is what I will take if I can until the end of July.
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350 euro. that is what I will take if I can until the end of July.
Don't think that's a reality although the possibility for a reduced payment could be,i'm sure there will be some criteria to be in receipt of whatever it'll be.
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350 euro. that is what I will take if I can until the end of July.
Don't think that's a reality although the possibility for a reduced payment could be,i'm sure there will be some criteria to be in receipt of whatever it'll be.
I will probably go back working on the 10th of June if they cut the 350 then.
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350 euro. that is what I will take if I can until the end of July.
Don't think that's a reality although the possibility for a reduced payment could be,i'm sure there will be some criteria to be in receipt of whatever it'll be.
From what I gather the €350 is gone from June 8 regardless of when you started getting it, some new "tapered down" version will apply from then, who knows what that'll mean?
I will probably go back working on the 10th of June if they cut the 350 then.
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I did think the payment was for 12 weeks regardless which would have brought me up to June 16th.
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Return to work .Im watching Texas and California in the States see how the ending of lockdown goes there .Then if Building sites and offices are back there might just be enough work around to cover costs and feed yourself .If the lifting of Lockdown fails in the USA who are a few weeks ahead of us then all is up in the air again .If the sites dont open then the offices dont open and I think office workers who dont want to use bus or Luas will make up most of our customers .
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I was taking to a mate of mine and they said they'd rather walk than get in a taxi.Dont expect to be busy for a good while yet.The weather doesn't get proper shit until October/November.
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Didn't think the USA were ahead of us John ?
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Just out of interest DM, when you eventually go back to work will you then be a disease spreading bastard like the rest of them?
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No I will be guided by legislation, and HSE recomndations
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Didn't think the USA were ahead of us John ?
They are lifting their lockdown before us so I suppose if it works there we will follow .We need Guinea pigs and Trump has offered up his people .
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No I will be guided by legislation, and HSE recomndations
Current advice suggests Taxis are essential workers and should be out doing their bit
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Well then let them go out and do it. My advice to myself is stay home till it's safe to go to work.
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That'll be never then, you and John M, anyone else never going back?
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Ah sure I have to go back sometime only
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No I will be guided by legislation, and HSE recomndations
Current advice suggests Taxis are essential workers and should be out doing their bit
And where does it say that drivers should put themselves and their respective families at risk by continuing to operate...they're paying me 350 per week to stay the fuk at home!!
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No I will be guided by legislation, and HSE recomndations
Current advice suggests Taxis are essential workers and should be out doing their bit
And where does it say that drivers should put themselves and their respective families at risk by continuing to operate...they're paying me 350 per week to stay the fuk at home!!
I don't believe it says anywhere that Tesco workers should put Themselves and their respective families at risk, they just go to work because they're classed as essential workers, don't know why Taxi drivers are any different really, but sure we're as odd as fuck most of us
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We're back at the oul social distancing hurdle again.....i don't think most Tesco workers would be in as close contact with customers for the period of time that taxi drivers would be....i think watty had his measuring tape out.
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Two of the main recommendations of social distancing are work from home and avoid crowds. Dunnes Stores workers can do neither yet they still turn up for minimum wage... betchya won't see that Heffernan cunt next or near to a shop floor.
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We're back at the oul social distancing hurdle again.....i don't think most Tesco workers would be in as close contact with customers for the period of time that taxi drivers would be....i think watty had his measuring tape out.
Yeah but why should it say something somewhere that Taxi drivers should go to work?
Wasn't classing us as essential workers enough?
Most businesses are pushing to be allowed open for business, Taxi drivers are told we can and still we stay home, mad as March hares the lot of us
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A normal saloon type taxi does not conform with the Social Distancing rule so they should not be out there working
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Which social distancing "rule"?
- Work from home
- Avoid unnecessary journeys
- Avoid crowds
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Which social distancing "rule"?
- Work from home
- Avoid unnecessary journeys
- Avoid crowds
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"Social distancing is important to help slow the spread of coronavirus. It does this by minimising contact between potentially infected individuals and healthy individuals.
You should:
keep a space of 2 metres (6.5 feet) between you and other people"
https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/protect-yourself-and-others.html
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I still have a bit of work to do around the house.
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Physical distance is only one aspect. Like the others it's not always possible.
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Which social distancing "rule"?
- Work from home
- Avoid unnecessary journeys
- Avoid crowds
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"Social distancing is important to help slow the spread of coronavirus. It does this by minimising contact between potentially infected individuals and healthy individuals.
You should:
keep a space of 2 metres (6.5 feet) between you and other people"
https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/protect-yourself-and-others.html
From what I gather, social distancing will continue well into next year, will you stay home even if the payment stops?
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Physical distance is only one aspect. Like the others it's not always possible.
Point taken but the HSE recommend it and yet some Taxis are out there potentially running the rick of spreading the pox.
I'm not knocking them for this but the powers that be should have clamped down on this and it would have stopped about 6 million posts on here.
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HSE also recommended avoiding crowds and working from home. I'd say taxi drivers have saved thousands of lives by providing a safer alternative to buses, trains and luaseyes. NTA should, however, have advised the use of face coverings and advised those classed as at risk by HSE not to work, IMO.
Maybe we'll get clearer instruction before the PUP runs out. The Minister for Welfare was on the wireless today and she seemed certain that PUP will end on June 8. It seems that those who are not allowed return to work will have to apply for regular Jobseekers payments as applicable.
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Or go back to work
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Or both?
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Looks like it'll be extended beyond June 8th by how long .. who knows ... except the ERM!
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Looks like it'll be extended beyond June 8th by how long .. who knows ... except the ERM!
Till the last phase in August I'd guess
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Looks like it'll be extended beyond June 8th by how long .. who knows ... except the ERM!
extended but reduced I think... Hope not
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Feck it, have to put up with lycra clad kamikaze cyclists, and their broods, jay walkers, joggers for even longer.
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They seem to be pulling back on extending the PUP payment beyond the 8th June
If the final payment is on the 8th do you have to wait 7 days or are you good to go from the 9th?
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They seem to be pulling back on extending the PUP payment beyond the 8th June
If the final payment is on the 8th do you have to wait 7 days or are you good to go from the 9th?
I'd say as soon as they announce its not being extended, lads will go back to work without signing off. Sure might as well, it would only be a couple of weeks.
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Thats all very fine--but where are you going to get the work ?
No Tourists--No Corporate --No Leisure--No Residential --just the Hospital work you avoided for last 8 weeks ,why stick your head above parapet before you have too ?
There will be SWFA !
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I'm planning an advertising push on Google to hopefully generate a bit of business
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Thats all very fine--but where are you going to get the work ?
No Tourists--No Corporate --No Leisure--No Residential --just the Hospital work you avoided for last 8 weeks ,why stick your head above parapet before you have too ?
There will be SWFA !
because the payment will be gone. That's what we are talking about. You definitely won't get a fare sitting at home feeling sorry for yourself.
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The payment is gonna be extended but most likely to certain sectors.
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The payment is gonna be extended but most likely to certain sectors.
extended but reduced to €203...would you set at home for €203 a week.
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The payment is gonna be extended but most likely to certain sectors.
extended but reduced to €203...would you set at home for €203 a week.
If the alternative is suffocation and death, then yes.
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The payment is gonna be extended but most likely to certain sectors.
extended but reduced to €203...would you set at home for €203 a week.
Yes, and love it !
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If I could get 203 maybe yes.The alternative after expenses could be 300/400 for 50/60 hours a week.One broken gearbox and yer back on the dole.Remember ten years ago?It was shite.
My thinking is they might reduce the 350 or just extend it by another month then see where we are.Remember we're only at phase one of the reopening of the country.The government closed it down so they should be supporting everyone they've affected negatively.
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There is more money around now than 10 years ago. When bars open up the young one's will be mad to get out and get riding !!
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It's hard to tell. Our expenses have been increased since ten years ago.But fares are up.How long will the app companies resist discounting?
The bars and restaurants won't be allowed to have the capacity they had before COVID 19.Same for live events.Office staff working from home etc.
Anything to do with aviation is bolloxed for a good while.Many staff being let go.All bad news in the next few months.
Anyway if yer expenses are 200 a week and you are grossing 600/700 yer still on shit money it takes you 50 hours to get it.I'd be taking my time going back to work.
I should add that's all I was making for the last few years but plenty on here cannot afford to live so cheaply.Especially the renters who have double owner drivers expenses so will be doing 60/70 hours.Madness.
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It's hard to know what to do. I went out this afternoon to the shops and it was busy enough around the place. Once some shops open on Monday, (non-taxi) things will get going pretty quickly.
But, logically, Monday is Phase 1 and Phase 2 doesn't start until 3 weeks later. So if you feel you can't go back to work on Monday, you probably shouldn't go back for another 3 weeks, i.e., Phase 2?
I'm thinking going back 2nd June, after the Bank Hol weekend? Or maybe the Fri of the Bank Hol?
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it's all a loada bollocks.
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I'm gonna see how things go.I saw three people waiting for taxis at the Heuston rank earlier.But it will take more than that for me to sign off the scratcher.
It may well be that older lads won't be back at all until covid has been sorted out.So there could be a bit for those who wanna take a chance.
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you can go out and drive and claim the 350.
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I heard minister on the telly too DMG and I read what RC posted.But the welfare have a rigid set of guidelines and they'll be the ones deciding.
Honestly, 350 a week to do fuk all is a great deal.I'm quite happy to park up me heap.Pubs are closed and no holidays this year.I haven't spend any of the previous 350s yet.Why would I need more filthy money.Having a great time.
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You can claim it and go out in order to test the waters to see if it's actually viable to sign off. Why would a person sign off and jump back in to the unknown when the government is still holding all the business hostage. You'd be signing on, signing off, signing on, signing off etc. in that case.
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I'm happy for yous to find out.350 a week is a very generous amount of money IMO.Unless yis are on the gear or something I don't know what the fuk yis are saving for.
I wouldn't begrudge anyone working but I'm not worried about losing earnings as long as I'm getting paid off the state.I still haven't spent my 2019 Christmas earnings yet.Yis must have gaffs like Sadam Hussein's fukking palace..Gold taps on a corpo gaff ..
fuckers.
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laffin.
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I'm thinking of going back on June 1st.Anymore than two and a half months off and I might get lazy.
Truth is,I'm completely bored and can't wait to get out for a bit of freedom.
The money is a bit secondary.
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We got the €350 as an emergency payment - no questions asked. We're supposed to send in a proper application form at the end of it. My worry is that they'll ask for some or all of the money back. And they'll have us over a barrel because we need a Tax Clearance Cert to operate.
Having said that, if they ask (?)300,000 people(?) to start paying back some or all of the money, there'll be riots in the streets C:-)
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We got the €350 as an emergency payment - no questions asked. We're supposed to send in a proper application form at the end of it. My worry is that they'll ask for some or all of the money back. And they'll have us over a barrel because we need a Tax Clearance Cert to operate.
Having said that, if they ask (?)300,000 people(?) to start paying back some or all of the money, there'll be riots in the streets C:-)
No, none of that will happen, are you john M?
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How do you know? Are you Leo Varadkar? :P
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..are you having a few drinks watty?
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::fds Are you the Minister for Health?
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No I don't like crossing the Shannon.
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you sound like you're doing a boris yeltsin and circling shannon.
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Pubs /Clubs and restaurants will take their time reopening-they will want to see what the State has to offer as support as long as they stay closed they have little Xs ,Rates /Rent holidays --Insurance reductions --why would they reopen when not viable !
The Corporate world will refrain asking their staff to travel as they would be liable as putting them in harms way !
The Brits are already telling the Public to stay way from Public Transport little doubt our crew will follow --so the Taxi industry will have to be supported to stay in the business no different to Dublin Bus /Bus Eirann or Wexford Bus etc or else they will be commending 100,000 s to unemployment--
Then of course is the Public --how are they suppose to get around ?
Might be an idea to take to Social Media aka Twitter etc to voice your worries and concerns --make sure its properly directed ie Ministers-NTA-Media aka Joe Duffy-Pat Kenny --Ivan Yeats !
There is a long way to go yet--just enjoy the weather--
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I csnnot understand why taxis were deemed to be an essential service.
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it's all a loada bollocks.
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Thats exactly right doc
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Greatest holiday I ever had ...apart from turning into a dipso
And having nobody to argue with ....I miss winding the cnuts up in the taxi :-X
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Probably a tad over cautious, Watty. Tax clearance is issued once your tax affairs are in order or you have entered into an arrangement to address the same. Such arrangements have due regard for your ability to pay. PUP is paid by Welfare NOT Revenue. The usual procedure for collection of overpayments by that Dept is via reductions to future claims. Provided you hold your hands up such deductions don't exceed 15% of your payment. 0 * 15% = 0.
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Thanks. Never dealt with SW before so don't know the ins & outs.
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I wouldn't have said this a week ago but I hope they cut the 350 on 10th June, as it will give me an excuse to go back working. I have had enough of this holiday now, id rather be out there earning 200 euro per week than getting 1000 euro a week sitting at home.
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I wouldn't have said this a week ago but I hope they cut the 350 on 10th June, as it will give me an excuse to go back working. I have had enough of this holiday now, id rather be out there earning 200 euro per week than getting 1000 euro a week sitting at home.
I wonder will they give me your €350 ? I've to put a second coat on the gaff!
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I wouldn't have said this a week ago but I hope they cut the 350 on 10th June, as it will give me an excuse to go back working. I have had enough of this holiday now, id rather be out there earning 200 euro per week than getting 1000 euro a week sitting at home.
That's because you live in Mayo !!
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I wouldn't have said this a week ago but I hope they cut the 350 on 10th June, as it will give me an excuse to go back working. I have had enough of this holiday now, id rather be out there earning 200 euro per week than getting 1000 euro a week sitting at home.
Are you for real,you'd prefer to be out there with the great unwashed coughing and spluttering in your cab for buttons,do you have any elderly relatives that you hope to visit??
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I wouldn't have said this a week ago but I hope they cut the 350 on 10th June, as it will give me an excuse to go back working. I have had enough of this holiday now, id rather be out there earning 200 euro per week than getting 1000 euro a week sitting at home.
Are you for real,you'd prefer to be out there with the great unwashed coughing and spluttering in your cab for buttons,do you have any elderly relatives that you hope to visit??
yes, I am for real. I didn't mind the time off until now but i'm very bored the last couple of days. I don't have elderly relatives i'm hoping to visit.
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Only 2 more PUP payments to come - assuming we're paid weekly in advance. Anyone applied for Jobseekers yet?
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Thanks. Never dealt with SW before so don't know the ins & outs.
I'm not necessarily suggesting you are wrong to be over cautious. These are by definition unusual payments so the usual repayment terms may not apply... who knows, we could all end up in Mountjoy when our claims are reviewed. When they first mentioned that all claims will be reviewed they certainly gvave the impression that downward adjustments would not be made hence it seemed fair to conclude that repayments wouldn't be sought... but then they also said they would backdate payments back then, that changed fairly lively.
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I've gotten 8 payments so far which leaves 4 more PUPs I think.Got my first on the 31 March.
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The 12 weeks isn't personal, it's universal and ends on Mon 8th June.
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My understanding is you get 12 payments regardless of when you started to get paid.Hope you are wrong!
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Don't be silly. I wasn't asking you, I was telling you!
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Only 2 more PUP payments to come - assuming we're paid weekly in advance. Anyone applied for Jobseekers yet?
I'm optimistic!!
Decision due soon on extending Covid-19 unemployment payment, says minister https://jrnl.ie/5103098
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Nervously optimistic? I can't see it staying at €350 or being extended for those who haven't complied with the original T&Cs by applying for Jobseekers...
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I'm still expecting 12 weeks.My first application was delayed by nearly 2 weeks because they said my bank details were wrong.I have the letter so a little come back.
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Shame they stopped backdating it. Unless it's universally extended you'll be out of pocket.
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They fukked up a loada applications.My phone number was on the first one I sent and they made no attempt to contact me.Half the country is in a similar situation.
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True. I had the same problem myself... cost me €553... as, to add insult to injury, they decided to stop backdating payments the day before I rang to chase mine up.
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The original application for Jobseekers was supposed to be applied for within a period when the payment was €203.....obviously the amount was increased along with 12 weeks and i didn't see anything with regard to applying for Jobseekers when the payment and extended period applied....if they're thinking of extending the payment albeit at a reduced level then maybe you need not apply for Jobseekers.
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Maybe... They don't seem to be in any hurry to tell us. The same T&Cs applied after the rate was increased, I applied online after they had no record of muy original paper application and it said the same thing i.e. you must apply for Jobseekers to facilitate reconciliation of payments.
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My contact in welfare says they're thinking about it.I'm not too bothered as I still haven't started spending week ones payment but I'm getting close...
If they cut me off completely I can afford another few weeks and possibly months off.I doubt they will though with so many businesses unable to open to full capacity.
If they want to close the economy down they must pay.They can't afford any second waves.Still only in phase one.
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I wouldn't have said this a week ago but I hope they cut the 350 on 10th June, as it will give me an excuse to go back working. I have had enough of this holiday now, id rather be out there earning 200 euro per week than getting 1000 euro a week sitting at home.
+1
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Can't find the link now but the Indo had a story earlier today that SW will run out of money in a few weeks (because no new Govt = no 2020 budget). The current Govt was/is planning to extend the emergency payment but for less money. The Opposition see an opportunity and want the payment continued at the €350.
So the Summer might get extended yet!
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And here we go... Don't know if it'll apply to us but we can live in hope...
Regina Doherty: Covid payment will 'absolutely have to be extended' (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/regina-doherty-covid-payment-will-absolutely-have-to-be-extended-1000764.html)
Regina Doherty has confirmed the Covid-19 pandemic payment will "absolutely have to be extended".
Speaking in the Dáil, the Minister for Social Protection said although the government haven't made the official decision yet, she wished to "categorically put on the record", the payment "will stand for all of the phases until society is reopened again".
Ms Doherty acknowledged that the economy had been "put into sleep mode", and it was important that the state-supported those who had lost income through the pandemic.
Over 815,000 people have signed up to the Pandemic Unemployment Payment since it was introduced, the equivalent of a four-year caseload for the department, in two months.
The €350 per week payment is due to run out on June 9, however, a number of employment sectors will not be able to return to work at this time due to the state's stepwise plan to reopen lockdown restrictions.
Minister Doherty said that as the country reopens: "We're well aware it will be different times for different people, I can absolutely confirm the payment will be extended and is currently under active consideration" at department level.
"The actual dimensions of it are being made by my own department and department finance but we will continue to support people as we have done," she said.
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Apart from the boredom which has hit me like a tonne of bricks the last few days, I don't want to see the country run out of money so if I can earn any few quid working, I think its better than taking 350 the country cant afford.
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^^That's what I expected Watty but Passsscal also said today that unsustainable business models will not be supported indefinitely.
So they might pay us to keep us as standby, letting on taxi drivers for a bit longer but when we're only able to earn 400 and our expenses are 200 they might tell us to get lost and get another job.
We're probably gonna be a few thousand drivers too many after the lockdown.I wonder if the NTA have suspended their recruitment campaign and if they'll return the geography pass mark to 80% to ensure our sustainability Post COVID 19.
It's all a loada bollix..
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Boredom isn't such a bad thing 1990..you are free to sign off the COVID payment anytime you wish.
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Boredom isn't such a bad thing 1990..you are free to sign off the COVID payment anytime you wish.
I miss meeting the customers and getting out and about, most of my customers are like friends. The last few weeks were probably needed to recharge the batteries but they are well recharged now at this point.
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Hopefully you get a bit of relief soon.In Dublin we rarely get the same passengers twice in a year.I don't really talk to them at all.Not trying to be unfriendly but they're working on the phone while they're in the car so I leave them at it.
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Hopefully you get a bit of relief soon.In Dublin we rarely get the same passengers twice in a year.I don't really talk to them at all.Not trying to be unfriendly but they're working on the phone while they're in the car so I leave them at it.
cheers. ah it will be all ok in the end. i reckon this time next year we will have nearly forgotten all about covid 19.
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And here we go... Don't know if it'll apply to us but we can live in hope...
Regina Doherty: Covid payment will 'absolutely have to be extended' (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/regina-doherty-covid-payment-will-absolutely-have-to-be-extended-1000764.html)
Regina Doherty has confirmed the Covid-19 pandemic payment will "absolutely have to be extended".
Speaking in the Dáil, the Minister for Social Protection said although the government haven't made the official decision yet, she wished to "categorically put on the record", the payment "will stand for all of the phases until society is reopened again".
Ms Doherty acknowledged that the economy had been "put into sleep mode", and it was important that the state-supported those who had lost income through the pandemic.
Over 815,000 people have signed up to the Pandemic Unemployment Payment since it was introduced, the equivalent of a four-year caseload for the department, in two months.
The €350 per week payment is due to run out on June 9, however, a number of employment sectors will not be able to return to work at this time due to the state's stepwise plan to reopen lockdown restrictions.
Minister Doherty said that as the country reopens: "We're well aware it will be different times for different people, I can absolutely confirm the payment will be extended and is currently under active consideration" at department level.
"The actual dimensions of it are being made by my own department and department finance but we will continue to support people as we have done," she said.
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Interesting, 8th June was the date being drummed into us until now. Does 9th mean we'll be paid in full on the 9th?
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Should we bother extending the reduced insurance cover into June?
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Should we bother extending the reduced insurance cover into June?
yes you can always reactivate it if necessary .
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Extend it then phone them again if/when you change your mind.Not a big deal for them.
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I extended my reduced cover into June with AXA this morning,licence suspended until June 19th also.
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I suspended my SPSV insurance until the end of June, NTA haven't rang me yet but when they do I'll continue the licence suspension provided it can be terminated prior to expiry.
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I'm thinking of going back on June 1st.Anymore than two and a half months off and I might get lazy.
Truth is,I'm completely bored and can't wait to get out for a bit of freedom.
The money is a bit secondary.
If'n your going back Van D be sure to sign off the Covid payment because
Revenue will pick on Taxi drivers when this is all over as we are the easiest targets of all.
I simple call from revenue to FN requesting a list of drivers working during the pandemic and cross check that with those drivers that claimed the 350 and job Oxo, most likely they will need a court order/warrant fer each case and that should take all of a day.
Any Taxi driver working FN and claiming the 350 then expect a knock at your door !
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I wouldn't have said this a week ago but I hope they cut the 350 on 10th June, as it will give me an excuse to go back working. I have had enough of this holiday now, id rather be out there earning 200 euro per week than getting 1000 euro a week sitting at home.
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I tried staying at home and fer 3 weeks legitimitly claimed the 350, but boredom set in watching the 4 walls closing in and after getting my Third Covid 350 payment, I broke the Gov link and went back to work. Best decision I ever made, another week at home and it was either a treatment center or a mental asyulm fer me !
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NTA called me today wit two choices, get new stickers installed or extend the current suspension. I opted to suspend the licence for June but I can reactivate at any time.
Credit where credit is due... they are looking after us extremely well.
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Yeah...they're great!!
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It will be interesting to see how they plan to cut the payment to those who would normally get less than €350 if working, will it be self declaration or will revenue check everyone's previous income?
For those of us self employed other factors come in to play such as seasonal adjustments/capital expenditure etc all of which which can skew calculations.
Similarly, I guess PAYE workers, particularly those most affected in the leisure/tourism industry would have more work/overtime in the Summer months, so a weekly average over the year wouldn't be a fair calculation.
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The scheme already in place I think gives 70% of 2018 earnings for self-employed.In that case most of yous will probably be better off than on 350 a week.I will be worse off.
Freenow have more data on taxi drivers than any other dispatcher.All they have to do is say they can't meet demand and a the ones left on government supports will be weaned off or told to get a real job.
Their definition of not meeting demand is having cars all over the kip doing one job an hour.Good for them but bad for us.
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I would think sectorial adjustments would be the way to go .If they reopen retail then anybody in the retail sector will be told you may return to work 203 if you dont same for leisure if they open restaurants .I would think we will be treated differently .I think they still want to control movement and will allow us to react to demand as we see it plus traceability will be important so they wont want to promote untraceable transport .Busses and trains will become cash free they will insist on leap cards for traceability .
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The scheme already in place I think gives 70% of 2018 earnings for self-employed.In that case most of yous will probably be better off than on 350 a week.I will be worse off.
Freenow have more data on taxi drivers than any other dispatcher.All they have to do is say they can't meet demand and a the ones left on government supports will be weaned off or told to get a real job.
Their definition of not meeting demand is having cars all over the kip doing one job an hour.Good for them but bad for us.
I'm sure if asked they'd say demand is a small fraction of what it was last year, (they won't be asked)
I would think sectorial adjustments would be the way to go .If they reopen retail then anybody in the retail sector will be told you may return to work 203 if you dont same for leisure if they open restaurants .I would think we will be treated differently .I think they still want to control movement and will allow us to react to demand as we see it plus traceability will be important so they wont want to promote untraceable transport .Busses and trains will become cash free they will insist on leap cards for traceability .
Isn't that supposed to be happening already? if your job is open you're supposed to return to it ... I'm still unsure why that doesn't apply to Taxi drivers ... I think it's because the self employed are allowed self access whether or not their individual business is currently viable, so some have returned and others haven't.
A Taxi driver that bought a brand new Mercedes 2 years ago (some did) would have declared very little income last year as he would have had a large capital allowance (one of the advantages of the job and purchasing better vehicles) It would seem unfair to punish said driver and to benefit those who provide a shit heap service but declare higher incomes. The tax accrued to the state from the sale of the vehicle would outweigh the income tax payed by the miserly fucker in the ancient Prius.
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Cheeky fuk!I'm doing yis a favour.
I've no sympathy for the new car owners out there.It's only been ten years since the last round of misery.Covid has probably brought forward a recession that was inevitable.How did they not see a downturn coming?It happens every seven to ten years.
Unfortunately the tax write off for buying newer motors only covers a fraction of the purchase price.I'd don't place any value in owning a rapidly depreciating asset.Did yis not do business studies in secondary school?Little bit of economics maybe?
Trying to wind me up with yer S class comments.
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Cheeky fuk!I'm doing yis a favour.
I've no sympathy for the new car owners out there.It's only been ten years since the last round of misery.Covid has probably brought forward a recession that was inevitable.How did they not see a downturn coming?It happens every seven to ten years.
Unfortunately the tax write off for buying newer motors only covers a fraction of the purchase price.I'd don't place any value in owning a rapidly depreciating asset.Did yis not do business studies in secondary school?Little bit of economics maybe?
Trying to wind me up with yer S class comments.
You're too easy rofl
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If I'm on here there's some DIY I'm avoiding so I don't mind.
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Any of you younger individuals given any consideration to returning to full time education doing a degree only cost you 10% of the fee and you can continue to work .Its going to be slow for a while .Something to do with climate change or energy conservation might get you a job after .Might be an idea we spend enough time on her if we spent it studying it might line your pocket.
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I'll include myself even though I'm 43...
Yeah I was gonna do a course in something but the reward at the the end isn't high enough for the hours I'd need to put in.
If I ever go back to work I'm planning on clearing the mortgage in 6 years.Next year hopefully more travelling now that the dog is gone to the glue factory.Weekends away and bigger holidays assuming the world opens up again.Pension I don't worry about.
I'll be semi-retired by 50( bit like now) but working more and travelling more.Basically taxi driving to holiday.
Then I'll come on here and tell the young lads how they're doing it all wrong..oh I'm kinda doing that already.I honestly haven't a clue just going with the flow.
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"Pension I don't worry about".
Are you ok if, may the force forbid, you contract a serious illness?
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Was only saying to her that minds me .If she thought I could ever return to a 9 to 5 with two weeks holiday depending on the whim of me boss man .She had the good sense not to answer just gave me one of those fuck off you idiot looks .I think there is more to being self employed than the wages .I use to make a reasonable return on betting but I lost the discipline Powers and the others offer to many gambling opportunities and you end up betting on things you know nothing about .
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"Pension I don't worry about".
Are you ok if, may the force forbid, you contract a serious illness?
I've looked into the pension thing and it almost seems like another mortgage.A decent pension fund would need 100s of thousands.Paying so much when the bank is charging me 2.75% on the house seems like an inefficient use of my limited funds.
If something horrible happens I'll be looking for state support.I expect to be working passed or up until my pension age.Its at least 23 years away.So I'll make a definite decision when the gaff is paid off.Might just take a cyanide pill at retirement..
The better half has a bit of a pension but I don't want a cent of it. That would be unfair.
I'd rather do the travel thing now than wait till I'm 70 and further mentally and physically diminished.
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Sounds like a plan, anyway I'm probably the least qualified to comment on future planning.
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I'm probably just justifying doing nothing with excuses...
Everyone's situation is different.Stable fees,Kids, College fees etc.
Maybe with the removal of cash from our business over time, funnelling money into a tax-efficient pension might be a smarter move.Right now I'll keep an eye on it.
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My gaff is/was my pension if the kids move out .Sell it give a lump to some housing association for some sort of housing and live off the rest .
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Id say if the NTA introduced a buy back scheme,the amount of hands that would go up,they wouldntbe able to cope with
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"Stable fees", Fuk sake, yeah, nearly forgot, in my early 30's I had a hunter in livery €65 pw. when I was fab. When I bought him for €2k the vet said he was 11, when I sold him 2 years later for €600, another vet said he was 17. Had great crack on him for a couple of years though.
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Id say if the NTA introduced a buy back scheme,the amount of hands that would go up,they wouldntbe able to cope with
Why would they introduce a Buy back scheme .If you cant make wage you go out of business the industry is designed to self regulate .Work it or lose it .
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Id say if the NTA introduced a buy back scheme,the amount of hands that would go up,they wouldntbe able to cope with
Why would they introduce a Buy back scheme .If you cant make wage you go out of business the industry is designed to self regulate .Work it or lose it .
Seriously though how long would 6 large do you for if they did?
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If they introduced a buyback scheme some might take it and by a 5.5-year-old mini what like Panel.
^^^I was joking Bob about the stable fees but during the really bad years some of the keshies used to work in town.One chap used to be putting in at least 14 hours a day regularly.Lovely bloke.
When I asked him what he spent his money on as he lived in modest gaff.His car was on it's third engine in so many years and his two adult children needed petrol for their cars and his daughter had stable fees for her horse due.Kinda put things in perspective a little.
Some lads have it rougher than others.A lot of it is self-inflicted too.
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My gaff is/was my pension if the kids move out .Sell it give a lump to some housing association for some sort of housing and live off the rest .
Kids moving out rofl
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Buy back scheme? Most of the lads on here paid IR£5,000 for their plates. FFS, I've lost more on the turn of a playing card.
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Buy back scheme? Most of the lads on here paid IR£5,000 for their plates. FFS, I've lost more on the turn of a playing card.
Are ya sure it wasn't a Tarot card?