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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: MK on May 05, 2020, 01:43:25 pm
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Anyone notified NTA and returned the disks? What reply did you get when you suspend the licence?
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Anyone notified NTA and returned the disks? What reply did you get when you suspend the licence?
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Havent sent back discs sent e mail to be taken off the app got no conformation .
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Thanks John, you referring on the email they sent the other day or just to De link?
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I sent the email in the format they requested to suspend my licence,i sent my tamperproof discs along with my paper licence to the Galway address,i suspended my licence for one month(until 19/05) i'll probably suspend it for another month when i contact them again before the 19th,i had already unlinked myself from the driver portal.
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Shallowhall....Is this a joke? [emoji2]Paper license?
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No joke.....they requested the paper licence you receive at the time of your suitability along with the discs.
1.Remove the roof sign from your vehicle (Taxi/Wheelchair Accessible Taxi).
2.Remove NTA tamper proof discs from front and rear windows of your vehicle.
3.Within 21 days, return NTA tamper-proof discs AND the SPSV Licence Certificate to -
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Leave them ther ...anything else is ridiculous
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The girl on the phone told me if you do not send back the discs and paper licence within 28 days my licence would be lapsed. Not suspended.
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That's interesting.Just tell them you posted them already if there's a problem.
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What I don't understand is this. If you ring the NTA, and tell them you want to break the link, then get onto your insurance company, and tell them you want to reduce your premium to social domostic what's the problem. That's what I did, and I assume when I want to re-establish the link I simply ring the NTA again , and likewise the insurance . So what's the problem ?
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When u get onto your insurance and change to social you then don't have a taxi licence any more. If u don't suspend it it lapses.
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So just breaking the link is not enough ?
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So just breaking the link is not enough ?
No.....when i rang initially to break the driver link she asked would i like to suspend my licence,i asked what the benefit of that was...she couldn't tell me...then the NTA sent out their mail saying if you reduced your insurance to SD&P and don't suspend your licence it will lapse as you no longer hold SPSV insurance....there's posters on here saying do nothing...but personally i think it's bad advice.
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Yeah I hear ya, but I'm just wondering how the NTA would know you reduced your cover ?
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Yeah I hear ya, but I'm just wondering how the NTA would know you reduced your cover ?
They're informed by Dept of Justice(i think...and open to correction)....they were able to tell me in a mail that i no longer held valid SPSV insurance....don't assume they know fukall and that you should do fukall.....but RC will will tell you the story about the right hand and the left hand.. .blah blah blah.
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I would suggest if the dept of Justice is informing the NTA, about this, then the data protection people need to be called in
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As i said Dalyer.....i think...open to correction....but don't assume they don't know,
They know when your tax clearance is out of date,they know that your car has passed an NCT....why would think they don't know when SPSV insurance has been removed from an insurance policy?
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Because an insurance company is NOT. a government body, and I don't think would have the right to disclose personal details. I might be wrong, I just don't know
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The guards can find out in seconds if your car is insured or not. So why can't nta??
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Well your car IS insured in the case of reducing cover, just not insured to do taxi work
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https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/SPSV_Industry_Information_Note_Web_Version.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/SPSV_Industry_Information_Note_Web_Version.pdf)
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I assume most wont notify the nta given the process involved. They did say in the email they are in the process of making it easier for taxi drivers. For once
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I sent them a notice to remove me from the app I sent the discs tonight .I dont have a smart phone and the Internet Cafe is closed so IU have no access to the internet ! So I wasent aware of what you needed to do .
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You also have to prove that you have reinstated the insurance cover to PSV. Did anyone return the insurance cert?
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You also have to prove that you have reinstated the insurance cover to PSV. Did anyone return the insurance cert?
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Did anyone ask you to ?
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Removing yourself from the app is not the same as suspending your licence. You have to email them in the exact wording- suspension
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No John, thats what the nta said in the leaflet you posted. You have to prove to them that you have reinstated the insurance cover to psv before they issue new discs
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No John, thats what the nta said in the leaflet you posted. You have to prove to them that you have reinstated the insurance cover to psv before they issue new discs
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You ring your insurer and im sure they upload the details to some data bank .Do you still need to bring Insurance cert with you for Suitability ?
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You always have to bring the insurance to suitability. No data is uploaded.But if you didnt return it, it will have the same issued date. How will the nta prove you have reinstated cover. Very confusing.
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We're only supposed to be leaving the gaff for exercise or essential journeys.Posting invalid discs back to a warehouse somewhere isn't an essential journey.Tell them to get stuffed.They haven't a clue what they're doing.
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No John, thats what the nta said in the leaflet you posted. You have to prove to them that you have reinstated the insurance cover to psv before they issue new discs
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You ring your insurer and im sure they upload the details to some data bank .Do you still need to bring Insurance cert with you for Suitability ?
According to their mail,they have a "process in place" to enable drivers to get new tamperproof discs...what that process is....i have no idea but as we spoke about a while back,what if drivers want to return to work before the centres are reopened.....will they send the discs out for self application to front and rear screens.
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You always have to bring the insurance to suitability. No data is uploaded.But if you didnt return it, it will have the same issued date. How will the nta prove you have reinstated cover. Very confusing.
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good point about the issue date .I wonder could your insured send you a SMS message that the taxithingey will accept ?
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My suitability has lapsed I might need to do it before they will issue new discs or I might not .
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Taxi unions should be pressing the nta for answers. Lots of issues, given this covid 19, breaking the link should suffice
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The girl on the phone told me if you do not send back the discs and paper licence within 28 days my licence would be lapsed. Not suspended.
They can hardly be that harsh in times like this. I never sent my discs back, might ring them tomorrow about it.
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What I don't understand is. I was to ( say) ring my insurance company tomorrow, and instruct them to put me back on psv cover from tomorrow on, how would the NTA know I have been on reduced cover for the passed month ?
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The girl on the phone told me if you do not send back the discs and paper licence within 28 days my licence would be lapsed. Not suspended.
They can hardly be that harsh in times like this. I never sent my discs back, might ring them tomorrow about it.
Chance it so.
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What I don't understand is. I was to ( say) ring my insurance company tomorrow, and instruct them to put me back on psv cover from tomorrow on, how would the NTA know I have been on reduced cover for the passed month ?
They will never know dalyer, that is why they require the insurance cert for suitability, to confirm you have cover. We are in a pandemic and the nta
are trying to apply the law regardless. the law is an ass comes to mind and for me the nta are arseholes.
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Taxi unions should be pressing the nta for answers. Lots of issues, given this covid 19, breaking the link should suffice
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The NTA are a shower of fuktards....the only reason i'm following their guidelines is i know they'll do their best to fuk me over if i don't, most other business's are doing their bit for their customers but the NTA can only make decisions that will inevitably cause hassle when trying to reinstate the licence....all they've done so far is to have a public consultation whether to grant just under 800 licence holders an extra year who are due to change their cars by Dec 31st....while we're heading into the unknown with business's that may never reopen and billions being promised to kickstart the economy.
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Well if they would not know, why would anyone bother their bollox sending back the discs and causing themselves bother ?
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Well if they would not know, why would anyone bother their bollox sending back the discs and causing themselves bother ?
I think Hal answered that above by saying "the only reason i'm following their guidelines is i know they'll do their best to fuk me over if i don't"
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Well if they would not know, why would anyone bother their bollox sending back the discs and causing themselves bother ?
Dear Dalymount
We here at fuck you over Insurance incorporated in Malta have become aware that you reduced your insurance cover but failed to conform with the Taxithingey guidelines as requested .There for we consider that you were in controvention of your insurance cover and wish to advise that we will no longer issue you with any NCB or underwrite your policy .
Yours .
Barabas the Ball Breaker .
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Yeah I hear ya, but I'm just wondering how the NTA would know you reduced your cover ?
They're informed by Dept of Justice(i think...and open to correction)....they were able to tell me in a mail that i no longer held valid SPSV insurance....don't assume they know fukall and that you should do fukall.....but RC will will tell you the story about the right hand and the left hand.. .blah blah blah.
The Department of Justice ring the NTA and let them know Shallowhal has reduced the cover on his car insurance? they've obviously very little to be doing in there
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Who would win a fight between Dalymount and Dollymount .You love picking arguments with officialdom that you cant win .When the envelope arives in Galway they are seperated by size then by colour then they are all stacked face up and opened seperatly and the details are entered onto the system then checked then signed off .Then you get an E mail .THATS THE SYSTEM dont fight it .
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Who would win a fight between Dalymount and Dollymount .You love picking arguments with officialdom that you cant win .When the envelope arives in Galway they are seperated by size then by colour then they are all stacked face up and opened seperatly and the details are entered onto the system then checked then signed off .Then you get an E mail .THATS THE SYSTEM dont fight it .
What if no envelope arrives in Galway?
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No not fighting the system John, just looking for sound advice. I don't want to end up in bother with that lit, but it is quite confusing. Considering the number of underlying illnesses I have, the NTA. are way down the pecking order, when it comes to stressing me out, but the fukkers are still in the back of my mind all the same
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No not fighting the system John, just looking for sound advice. I don't want to end up in bother with that lit, but it is quite confusing. Considering the number of underlying illnesses I have, the NTA. are way down the pecking order, when it comes to stressing me out, but the fukkers are still in the back of my mind all the same
Give Pierce a ring and ask them they are your insurers ,Problem solved .
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Yeah I'll do that tomorrow thankd
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What if no envelope arrives in Galway?
Nothing. They're not bothered but they have to satisfy the requirements of the legislation. If you have a car with dandelions fixed to the windows you are purporting to be driving a licensed taxi. If you don't have SPSV insurance in respect of that car it is not a licensed taxi - BTW, these are the rules "we" demanded - and you could be charged with driving without insurance - not to mention risk your car being confiscated if you don't have private motor tax. Hence NTA have to ensure you can't hold them liable because they never told you to remove the stickers.
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What if no envelope arrives in Galway?
Nothing. They're not bothered but they have to satisfy the requirements of the legislation. If you have a car with dandelions fixed to the windows you are purporting to be driving a licensed taxi. If you don't have SPSV insurance in respect of that car it is not a licensed taxi - BTW, these are the rules "we" demanded - and you could be charged with driving without insurance - not to mention risk your car being confiscated if you don't have private motor tax. Hence NTA have to ensure you can't hold them liable because they never told you to remove the stickers.
Highly unlikely a Garda would bother their hole with all that?
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What if no envelope arrives in Galway?
Nothing. They're not bothered but they have to satisfy the requirements of the legislation. If you have a car with dandelions fixed to the windows you are purporting to be driving a licensed taxi. If you don't have SPSV insurance in respect of that car it is not a licensed taxi - BTW, these are the rules "we" demanded - and you could be charged with driving without insurance - not to mention risk your car being confiscated if you don't have private motor tax. Hence NTA have to ensure you can't hold them liable because they never told you to remove the stickers.
Do you think the Discs and Envelopes will be recycled or will they be stored in a government vault somewhere by someone for something ?
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Probably not, TOO... but if you hit someone the insurance firm may scrutinise any photos to ascertain if there's anything there to invalidate your policy... and then report you to An Garda Siochana for driving without insurance and/or motor tax.
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Probably not, TOO... but if you hit someone the insurance firm may scrutinise any photos to ascertain if there's anything there to invalidate your policy... and then report you to An Garda Siochana for driving without insurance and/or motor tax.
Yet the insurance companies advice was only to break the link, the only reference to sticker removal was on a newsletter hardly anyone reads.
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Some got electronic mails... without going back through the thread I think at least one concluded that his insurance company had, directly or indirectly, informed NTA that he had invalidated his SPSV vehicle licence. That done, NTA are quite correct and possibly legally obliged to issue a cease and desist demand in respect of any invalid licence discs being displayed on the vehicle in question.
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What if no envelope arrives in Galway?
Nothing. They're not bothered but they have to satisfy the requirements of the legislation. If you have a car with dandelions fixed to the windows you are purporting to be driving a licensed taxi. If you don't have SPSV insurance in respect of that car it is not a licensed taxi - BTW, these are the rules "we" demanded - and you could be charged with driving without insurance - not to mention risk your car being confiscated if you don't have private motor tax. Hence NTA have to ensure you can't hold them liable because they never told you to remove the stickers.
Stickers are now off and will be posted back tomorrow, no point in taking any chances, I'm now driving a fully fledged Private car with crazy stickers on me front doors
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... and private motor tax?
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... and private motor tax?
Yes
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... and private motor tax?
Yes
Why?
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... and private motor tax?
Yes
Why?
Ah...it's one of RC's pet hates at the moment...
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... and private motor tax?
Yes
Why?
Why pay €216 per month Taxi Insurance when I aint driving a Taxi , thats why, dropped down to Private and saving €130 per month now, I think that makes sense dont you ?
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If you're driving the car you are required to pay motor tax at the appropriate class.
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... and private motor tax?
Yes
Why?
Why pay €216 per month Taxi Insurance when I aint driving a Taxi , thats why, dropped down to Private and saving €130 per month now, I think that makes sense dont you ?
No ....why do you have private motor tax?
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He's driving a private car.
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If you're driving the car you are required to pay motor tax at the appropriate class.
And there it is!!
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... and private motor tax?
Yes
Why?
Why pay €216 per month Taxi Insurance when I aint driving a Taxi , thats why, dropped down to Private and saving €130 per month now, I think that makes sense dont you ?
No ....why do you have private motor tax?
Its the law of the land, you must have Motor Tax on your Car, in my case its now classified as a "Private" vehicle thats why.
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He's driving a private car.
Well he either already had private motor tax which tends to be much more expensive, or he went on to motortax.ie and paid the extra which seems to defeat the purpose
do you have private motor (road) tax
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He's driving a private car.
Well he either already had private motor tax which tends to be much more expensive, or he went on to motortax.ie and paid the extra which seems to defeat the purpose
do you have private motor (road) tax
Yes
Oh Fcuk I wasnt even drinking(confused with insurance now) , forget all the posts I have Taxi Motor Tax and Private Motor Insc.
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Are yis not over complicating the issue. Yis should work for the nta.
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Are yis not over complicating the issue. Yis should work for the nta.
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Definitely!
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Maybe!!
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It's not complicated. Your SPSV vehicle licence is only valid if you hold a SPSV insurance policy in respect of the vehicle. If your SPSV vehicle licence is not valid you are legally required to return the tamper proof licence discs to NTA. You must tax the car as a private car if it is no longer licensed as a taxi and you intend driving it on a public road, otherwise you should register the vehicle as "off the road" and refrain from driving or parking it on a public road.
TBH, it couldn't be more simpler.
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It's not complicated. Your SPSV vehicle licence is only valid if you hold a SPSV insurance policy in respect of the vehicle. If your SPSV vehicle licence is not valid you are legally required to return the tamper proof licence discs to NTA. You must tax the car as a private car if it is no longer licensed as a taxi and you intend driving it on a public road, otherwise you should register the vehicle as "off the road" and refrain from driving or parking it on a public road.
TBH, it couldn't be more simpler.
If this is the case then the insurance companies should not be offering social and domestic cover on de-linked taxis if they are aware those taxis should be road taxed privately whilst knowing the vast majority of taxis are road taxed as taxis.
Truth be told we are not supposed to use the Taxi privately at all if taxed as a Taxi, who does that?
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Motor tax doesn't interest insurance companies... until they're looking for an excuse not to settle a claim, of course! It's up to you to pay the correct tax... same as if you sold / transferred ownership of the vehicle.
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Motor tax doesn't interest insurance companies... until they're looking for an excuse not to settle a claim, of course! It's up to you to pay the correct tax... same as if you sold / transferred ownership of the vehicle.
We live in interesting times or rather .....covid times. Uncharted waters
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Motor tax doesn't interest insurance companies... until they're looking for an excuse not to settle a claim, of course! It's up to you to pay the correct tax... same as if you sold / transferred ownership of the vehicle.
I assume you, like myself, can park up the taxi in the driveway and use another vehicle for general use, unfortunately many drivers cannot and the obstacles you suggest are in place (particularly road tax) are not practical. I don't believe road tax will be an issue in any event, tamper proof discs may be. but it'd extremely unlikely any issue would arise if drivers reduce level of insurance provided they don't work the taxi
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I guess one must weigh up the costs and benefits... the majority will probably pay their insurance as normal and retain the option to do a bit of work if they want to or need a few notes on top of the 3 and a half a week that Govt is giving us for the time being. I wonder if there will be something of a scramble to get licence discs fitted at the beginning of next month?
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Well if you don't send back the current ones, why would there be a scramble?
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I'd imagine drivers who are making private use of their cars will remove the discs to keep themselves legal.
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No more illegal then your buddies out there claiming unemployment benefit, while working
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They're allowed claim the €350 PUP... and rightly so.
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Theres no rules to say you need to remove your discs because the rules are irrelevant in a pandemic ....the rules dont exist because they are altered to suit in extraordinary circumstances.. like 2 meters an 2 km ...the rule book is rewritten
Ther is no reason to remove yur discs ....its absolutely stupid and creating work .....
I have declared myself not working and have altered my insurance private ...that's all I have to do and I took me name off the portal tingy cause it's a phone call away .
I declare it ...I dont have to explain it or defend it ....I'm telling them what I'm doing ....wat is the problem..
...wat do you tink is going to happen if you leave yur discs on ?
.....you'll get a knock on the door? A letter wit a harp on it to court? A fine ?
Nuttin is going to happen ...
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No more illegal then your buddies out there claiming unemployment benefit, while working
Hahaha
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Theres no rules to say you need to remove your discs because the rules are irrelevant in a pandemic ....the rules dont exist because they are altered to suit in extraordinary circumstances.. like 2 meters an 2 km ...the rule book is rewritten
Ther is no reason to remove yur discs ....its absolutely stupid and creating work .....
I have declared myself not working and have altered my insurance private ...that's all I have to do and I took me name off the portal tingy cause it's a phone call away .
I declare it ...I dont have to explain it or defend it ....I'm telling them what I'm doing ....wat is the problem..
...wat do you tink is going to happen if you leave yur discs on ?
.....you'll get a knock on the door? A letter wit a harp on it to court? A fine ?
Nuttin is going to happen ...
I can’t believe why the nta, they aren’t so accomodating in a time like this.
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The rules don't change, Octy... enforcement thereof might be relaxed but what happens if you have a crash and the insurance are looking for ways to wriggle out of paying... the pandemic could be long gone before your case is heard. The other thing to consider is the number of probationary Gardai on checkpoints, some of their tutors might want to teach them the letter of the law rather than discretionary ignorance. On balance, probably best to keep all the i's crossed and t's dotted, you'll sleep better!
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I can’t believe why the nta, they aren’t so accomodating in a time like this.
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I think they've been extremely accommodating. They even rang me last month to see if I wanted to extend the suspension of my plate licence into this month. Credit where credit is due.
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Dear Driver
Our department for finding out stuff at Company HQ (working from home )@ We insure you dont get paid Inc .have become aware that you failed to remove your vehicle from the Register of Taxi vehicles while stating to us in return for a reduced rate that you were no longer operating as a licenced taxi .This anomaly has led our underwriters to assume that as you failed to comply with licencing laws you were in fact operating as a Licenced taxi .We now require that you repay the Discount or recompense our organisation for refunded premiums .If you dont we will send out the lads and break your fucking legs Kapish .
Regards .
Norman .
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6 pages entirely about stickers. One of the reasons drivers are expendable/ essential, delete as applicable.
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Dear Driver
Our department for finding out stuff at Company HQ (working from home )@ We insure you dont get paid Inc .have become aware that you failed to remove your vehicle from the Register of Taxi vehicles while stating to us in return for a reduced rate that you were no longer operating as a licenced taxi .This anomaly has led our underwriters to assume that as you failed to comply with licencing laws you were in fact operating as a Licenced taxi .We now require that you repay the Discount or recompense our organisation for refunded premiums .If you dont we will send out the lads and break your fucking legs Kapish .
Regards .
Norman .
Norman wisdom?
I wont be removing mine anyway ....I was told by a compliance officer not to .....that's good enough for me ....
They wont be persuing anyone ....
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Mine were out of date so I returned them .They are suspended so I am no longer a taxi driver so might claim dole .
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Under the T&Cs of our PUP applications a lot of us have to apply for Jobseekers in the near future... Are you going for Benefit or Assistance - if there's a choice?
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Mine were out of date so I returned them .They are suspended so I am no longer a taxi driver so might claim dole .
And rightly so.
The internet would collapse in on itself without your posts!
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I rang the useless Transport authority today, they told me I have to send them an email saying when i suspended my insurance and for how long it will be suspended. They said they will then contact me to ask for the tamper proof discs back and the vehicle cert. when i want to go back to work i have to contact them and a compliance officer will put the discs on, where? they cant say. useless morons.
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Seems straightforward enough, T1990.
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Seems straightforward enough, T1990.
until I need the tamper proof discs put on in a months time.
sending the discs back is stupid and shouldn't be a requirement at a time like this.
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The law is the law... these are the regulations "we" wanted. You have no idea how easy or difficult it will be to get the stickers replaced... relax... it mightn't be as bad as you think.
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You could be right. We will see.
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Under the T&Cs of our PUP applications a lot of us have to apply for Jobseekers in the near future... Are you going for Benefit or Assistance - if there's a choice?
Benefit you have to hand up yur licence an assistance you keep working...is that the difference it ?
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Theres no rules to say you need to remove your discs because the rules are irrelevant in a pandemic ....the rules dont exist because they are altered to suit in extraordinary circumstances.. like 2 meters an 2 km ...the rule book is rewritten
Ther is no reason to remove yur discs ....its absolutely stupid and creating work .....
I have declared myself not working and have altered my insurance private ...that's all I have to do and I took me name off the portal tingy cause it's a phone call away .
I declare it ...I dont have to explain it or defend it ....I'm telling them what I'm doing ....wat is the problem..
...wat do you tink is going to happen if you leave yur discs on ?
.....you'll get a knock on the door? A letter wit a harp on it to court? A fine ?
Nuttin is going to happen ...
I can’t believe why the nta, they aren’t so accomodating in a time like this.
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Because they're cunts, even the insurance companies have said they wouldn't punish a driver for protecting themselves with a sneeze screen (thanks John M for the info) NTA "rules are rules" meanwhile the government are overruling them left right and centre
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That's one difference but to get the full rate of benefit you have to have earned over €15,600 (after capital allowances) in 2018 and to get assistance you have to sit and pass a means test.
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In interested watching this thread. 2 drivers who I assumed were going to take no action as regards their discs , have now declared they have sent them back
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Name and shame...
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Whats the consequences of not sending the disks anyway? Re do suitability? Fine?
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Whats the consequences of not sending the disks anyway? Re do suitability? Fine?
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Your beginning to Obsess keep the Daisies if you and 6452 more drivers retain them then nothing will happen ,Dont worry be happy .
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Whats the consequences of not sending the disks anyway? Re do suitability? Fine?
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Probably no consequences unless you leave them on a car you're using for social, domestic and/or pleasure and have a crash and the insurance investigators spot invalid discs in a photo or something... or unless you piss a Garda off at a checkpoint - or aren't Irish by accident of birth - in which case your car could be confiscated and you could be charged with driving without insurance.
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I'm giving some very serious consideration to the possibility of going back courting. Done it about 17 years ago when I left Eircom. I bought the transit van from Eircom at the time, and I really enjoyed it. It was all country runs cork sweet, Belfast, Clare, etc I loved it if I thought I could get that kind of work again I think I would go back
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I'm giving some very serious consideration to the possibility of going back courting. Done it about 17 years ago when I left Eircom. I bought the transit van from Eircom at the time, and I really enjoyed it. It was all country runs cork sweet, Belfast, Clare, etc I loved it if I thought I could get that kind of work again I think I would go back
I assumed that you were married DM, no?
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Daly it's not worth the risk with your underlying health conditions.I think Pornhub is offering it's premium service free to everyone as a thank you to all that stayed at home saving lives..
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Yeah I am married Bob, but what's that got to do with the price of turnips ?
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Yeah I am married Bob, but what's that got to do with the price of turnips ?
The fact that you were thinking of courting again!! lol
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I'd say Mrs. M can't wait!
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Who's Mrs M ?
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Your Misses ... well virtual misses so I guess she can be whoever you want her to be.
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Daly it's not worth the risk with your underlying health conditions.I think Pornhub is offering it's premium service free to everyone as a thank you to all that stayed at home saving lives..
Wanker.
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Who me or MFH ?
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Oh...me head!!
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No I don't think it was you Hal, maybe it was though
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Are ye on the sauce Dalyer?
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Who me or MFH ?
Probably both but I was addressing MfH as he drew reference to pornhub which I believe is a popular site with men who enjoy a wank.
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And Hal thought it was hin
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I wonder why.
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Could be worse the erm might have thought it was him you were talking about
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Daly it's not worth the risk with your underlying health conditions.I think Pornhub is offering it's premium service free to everyone as a thank you to all that stayed at home saving lives..
Wanker.
Don't download Pornhub, it's not worth the wrist! 8)
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Was it YOU he was talking about bullet ?
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Was it YOU he was talking about bullet ?
Never!
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What do people that can only use half there face and wankers have in common.
They have both had a few strokes.
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Speaking of strokes, I actually forgot I had a slight one about 12 years ago fukin hell how did I forget that, but I did seriously
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Speaking of strokes, I actually forgot I had a slight one about 12 years ago fukin hell how did I forget that, but I did seriously
TIA?
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What's that ?
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Whats the consequences of not sending the disks anyway? Re do suitability? Fine?
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Probably no consequences unless you leave them on a car you're using for social, domestic and/or pleasure and have a crash and the insurance investigators spot invalid discs in a photo or something... or unless you piss a Garda off at a checkpoint - or aren't Irish by accident of birth - in which case your car could be confiscated and you could be charged with driving without insurance.
Dont agree with you rat
.......if you told your insurance that you are not using it as a taxi that's it .........unless a passanger (s) made a claim or you are driving it as a taxi ...which would be incrediblyfukin stupit ....in which case you would not be insured and would be committing an offence......the stickers have nothing to do with any of that .....the nta asked .how long will you be suspending yur licence ....that's really a very very stupid question....how do fuk do we know the answer to that ....how many chinese pandemic have we bein tru .....the return of stickers was arse covering but showed absolutely no consideration for practicality, common sense, or the unnecessary cost to themselves and inconvence and worry it has caused everyone .....
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Whats the consequences of not sending the disks anyway? Re do suitability? Fine?
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Probably no consequences unless you leave them on a car you're using for social, domestic and/or pleasure and have a crash and the insurance investigators spot invalid discs in a photo or something... or unless you piss a Garda off at a checkpoint - or aren't Irish by accident of birth - in which case your car could be confiscated and you could be charged with driving without insurance.
Dont agree with you rat
.......if you told your insurance that you are not using it as a taxi that's it .........unless a passanger (s) made a claim or you are driving it as a taxi ...which would be incrediblyfukin stupit ....in which case you would not be insured and would be committing an offence......the stickers have nothing to do with any of that .....the nta asked .how long will you be suspending yur licence ....that's really a very very stupid question....how do fuk do we know the answer to that ....how many chinese pandemic have we bein tru .....the return of stickers was arse covering but showed absolutely no consideration for practicality, common sense, or the unnecessary cost to themselves and inconvence and worry it has caused everyone .....
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Whats the consequences of not sending the disks anyway? Re do suitability? Fine?
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Probably no consequences unless you leave them on a car you're using for social, domestic and/or pleasure and have a crash and the insurance investigators spot invalid discs in a photo or something... or unless you piss a Garda off at a checkpoint - or aren't Irish by accident of birth - in which case your car could be confiscated and you could be charged with driving without insurance.
Dont agree with you rat
.......if you told your insurance that you are not using it as a taxi that's it .........unless a passanger (s) made a claim or you are driving it as a taxi ...which would be incrediblyfukin stupit ....in which case you would not be insured and would be committing an offence......the stickers have nothing to do with any of that .....the nta asked .how long will you be suspending yur licence ....that's really a very very stupid question....how do fuk do we know the answer to that ....how many chinese pandemic have we bein tru .....the return of stickers was arse covering but showed absolutely no consideration for practicality, common sense, or the unnecessary cost to themselves and inconvence and worry it has caused everyone .....
You dont get it Occi .Big Dommo .Andy Mooney .Meself ,Dirty Danny and Billy the Bastard were all sent on a Fas course cleaning up the Canal .It was called Community Employment .Now Civil service is Community Employment of a sort for people that after 14 years of school can pass an examination and get 40% + in Irish .What we have here is job creation during an epidemic better to have them working than sitting at home on 3/4 rations .Your not using your discs so why not let somebody else get a bit of work out of them .?
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Whats the consequences of not sending the disks anyway? Re do suitability? Fine?
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Probably no consequences unless you leave them on a car you're using for social, domestic and/or pleasure and have a crash and the insurance investigators spot invalid discs in a photo or something... or unless you piss a Garda off at a checkpoint - or aren't Irish by accident of birth - in which case your car could be confiscated and you could be charged with driving without insurance.
Dont agree with you rat
.......if you told your insurance that you are not using it as a taxi that's it .........unless a passanger (s) made a claim or you are driving it as a taxi ...which would be incrediblyfukin stupit ....in which case you would not be insured and would be committing an offence......the stickers have nothing to do with any of that .....the nta asked .how long will you be suspending yur licence ....that's really a very very stupid question....how do fuk do we know the answer to that ....how many chinese pandemic have we bein tru .....the return of stickers was arse covering but showed absolutely no consideration for practicality, common sense, or the unnecessary cost to themselves and inconvence and worry it has caused everyone .....
You dont get it Occi .Big Dommo .Andy Mooney .Meself ,Dirty Danny and Billy the Bastard were all sent on a Fas course cleaning up the Canal .It was called Community Employment .Now Civil service is Community Employment of a sort for people that after 14 years of school can pass an examination and get 40% + in Irish .What we have here is job creation during an epidemic better to have them working than sitting at home on 3/4 rations .Your not using your discs so why not let somebody else get a bit of work out of them .?
Thers enough to be gettin on wit johnny wit washing yur hands , readin the lable on hands sanitizer to see if they minimum 60 % alcohol , washing the bleedin shopping, applying for drivin license an getting a medical off yur doctor by applying for an appointment with him cause he only takes one in surgery at a time ...then the bleedin licence place wont see ya cause yuv to make an appointment and 2 days before yur appointment the shut the kip down in lockdown closes down indefinitely and yur ma an da need ya to get the shoppin , an theres loads joggers on the road all of a sudden...rite in the middle of the road cause they tink.for sum inexplicably reason it's ok to run on the road and yur supposed to swerve round them ...and the park is full of rubbish and beer cans cause all the nutters drinking an thers doggie poo bags everywhere cause blokes are bein told by the owlone to walk the dog an the owlones are sick lookin at the cnuts an he doesn't like carrying bags o shite around wit him cause it doesn't look cool an he mite meet the mot next door neighbour across the road that he wudnt mind gettin a jaunt off of but shes only in her thirties an hes in his fifties an doesn't realise hes gone baldy an fat cnut an the yungones just see an owl cnut wit one foot in the grave ...an he be broke aswell cause he not an ambassadors lick arse an he be on jobseekers for the rest of his life and he in depression ville an he doesn't even have it in him to pull the stickers off his windows cause he doesn't give a fuk anymore ....
Poor cnut
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I hope for the sake of those that sent back their stickers that the NTA are efficient in replacing them when the time comes, history suggests they may not be.
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I've been through a few checkpoints and nobody is checking discs and my plate is suspended over a month.It's not an issue.I guarantee that the place that your sending them to doesn't want to touch them or care if you sent them back.It's a bit of paper in a bit of plastic.
Mine are still on the car BTW.
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I've been through a few checkpoints and nobody is checking discs and my plate is suspended over a month.It's not an issue.I guarantee that the place that your sending them to doesn't want to touch them or care if you sent them back.It's a bit of paper in a bit of plastic.
Mine are still on the car BTW.
As are mine although I think I've been out in it twice since my holiday began
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I spoke to my broker last night on the phone what he told me was, while he is aware that the NTA want drivers to return the discs, there is absolutely no circumstances in which either he, (the broker) OR the insurance company would reveal details of who sought to reduce cover to the NTA, or anybody else. He said in conjunction with the insurance company, the only requirement they have is, that you remove the roof sign, and break the link
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I spoke to my broker last night on the phone what he told me was, while he is aware that the NTA want drivers to return the discs, there is absolutely no circumstances in which either he, (the broker) OR the insurance company would reveal details of who sought to reduce cover to the NTA, or anybody else. He said in conjunction with the insurance company, the only requirement they have is, that you remove the roof sign, and break the link
The only possible issue would arise if you were involved in an incident, then insurance companies can get fiddly about the intricacies, however I'm sure that provided you weren't trading you would be in the clear. Couldn't give a toss about what the NTA want us to do in this instance
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Yes , I'm inclined to agree with that, I'd say that is also what the rat thinks
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I'm just wondering though, when you go to re establish the link, will they not ask why did you break the link in the first place ?
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I hope for the sake of those that sent back their stickers that the NTA are efficient in replacing them when the time comes, history suggests they may not be.
The woman from the NTA that I talked to yeserday, said I think the cork and sligo test centres are open. then she checked and said they werent and a compliance officer would put the discs back on, i asked her where? she said she didnt know. she didnt fill me with confidence to be honest.
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I'm after watching the mass on the telly with the owlone next door daily .....shes very devout ....
Wer ya watching it on RTE1 ?
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Do any of you ever think about thinking .You have been told that the Covid money wont last for ever or it might, you have been told you need to apply for jobseekers or you might not .Send back the fucking discs you wont be missing much if you are delayed by a day or two when you decide to go back to work but you could be pushed to the back of the que if we need to claim jobseekers if you still hold an active taxi licence .Thats the choice prepare to fail just in case you fail then you wont fail when you go looking for the Failure money .
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Look at that chalice work, effortless.
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Look at that chalice work, effortless.
He does a good Mass .
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Regardless of whether you sent the discs back or not(i did)....and you decide to lift the suspension will they(with their process in place?)not automatically schedule an appointment to have new discs fitted with the assumption that they were removed in the first place as per their instruction in their email?
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Look at that chalice work, effortless.
He does a good Mass .
Im a huge fan of his.
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Regardless of whether you sent the discs back or not(i did)....and you decide to lift the suspension will they(with their process in place?)not automatically schedule an appointment to have new discs fitted with the assumption that they were removed in the first place as per their instruction in their email?
Keep it simple stupit I suppose .I would think you reactivate you get an appointment to go to your local SGS test center where probably a fella from the reg or the crowd who run the center will refit them or they could post them out registered post and you refit them yourself .Some of you make it more complicated than it needs to be .
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The woman told me not to send mine back yet, to email the NTA and see what they say. it all depends who answers the phone when you ring them, they all have different versions of the rules it seems.
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Thanks John....but it's my favourite organisation the NTA we're talking about....they kept it far from simple!!
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Regardless of whether you sent the discs back or not(i did)....and you decide to lift the suspension will they(with their process in place?)not automatically schedule an appointment to have new discs fitted with the assumption that they were removed in the first place as per their instruction in their email?
you're having a laugh, they'll send you an email telling not to operate without the stickers under any circumstance and give you a number to ring to organise an appointment.
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BIG DOMMOS SISTER IS GETTING HER TATTOOS REMOVED ..Its easier than removing a fucking Daisy from a car window .
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The woman told me not to send mine back yet, to email the NTA and see what they say. it all depends who answers the phone when you ring them, they all have different versions of the rules it seems.
Their email was quite clear with the three steps outlined(which i posted)....it's the usual from the NTA,we're in a pandemic and the only thing they can do is make things difficult when it didn't need to be,removing the roof sign and unlinking from the portal should have been enough,that's all the insurers required but the NTA...instead of looking further than their noses decided to do something instead of doing nothing in this particular instance.
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Regardless of whether you sent the discs back or not(i did)....and you decide to lift the suspension will they(with their process in place?)not automatically schedule an appointment to have new discs fitted with the assumption that they were removed in the first place as per their instruction in their email?
you're having a laugh, they'll send you an email telling not to operate without the stickers under any circumstance and give you a number to ring to organise an appointment.
Havin a laugh?
Drivers on here saying they're not removing the discs and sending them and the licence cert to Galway as requested.
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The woman told me not to send mine back yet, to email the NTA and see what they say. it all depends who answers the phone when you ring them, they all have different versions of the rules it seems.
This is puzzling, it seems they are having afterthoughts.
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I have to say I've never placed any value in the taxi licence cert.Once I get it after my suitability I've never used it again.It's all nonsense.
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I'm just wondering though, when you go to re establish the link, will they not ask why did you break the link in the first place ?
You broke the link because you were off the road. Don’t think they’ll be that nosey. But you can unlink online or by text.
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I'm just wondering though, when you go to re establish the link, will they not ask why did you break the link in the first place ?
You broke the link because you were off the road. Don’t think they’ll be that nosey. But you can unlink online or by text.
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you'd have every right to tell them to fuck off and mind their own business
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The woman told me not to send mine back yet, to email the NTA and see what they say. it all depends who answers the phone when you ring them, they all have different versions of the rules it seems.
This is puzzling, it seems they are having afterthoughts.
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I agree.....they've probably realised all the work involved(at no cost to the licence holder apart from maybe having to drive to the nearest centre) and that maybe some drivers will return to the streets before their centres open.....the process they have in place..whatever that is... might fill that void.
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I have to say I've never placed any value in the taxi licence cert.Once I get it after my suitability I've never used it again.It's all nonsense.
How did you tax your car before we could do it online with a pin number?
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I probably put it in with the application but it's not useful for anything else.Goes into the glovebox and that's it.I think mine is still in the glove box since my last suitability test but haven't needed it so it could be anywhere.
When your insurance is cancelled it's just another piece of paper for the green bin.I wouldn't be framing it or anything..
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If you work with a trad despatcher they will need a copy of it. If I remember correctly a photo of the window stickers will do FN.
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Ah ok makes sense.I never gave them much weight as they have an expiry date.
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Do any of you ever think about thinking .You have been told that the Covid money wont last for ever or it might, you have been told you need to apply for jobseekers or you might not .Send back the fucking discs you wont be missing much if you are delayed by a day or two when you decide to go back to work but you could be pushed to the back of the que if we need to claim jobseekers if you still hold an active taxi licence .Thats the choice prepare to fail just in case you fail then you wont fail when you go looking for the Failure money .
I ask social welfare what the rules are around working while on the covid 19 payment. She said your not allowed work on the covid 19 payment but you are allowed work while claiming the job seekers allowance.
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I got the same info, but was told that the jobseekers is subject to a strict means test
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I think Rats interpretation of "business being diminished to such an extent that you would accept full time employment elsewhere" is flawed, everybody in receipt of job seekers allowance must be "available for work", this doesn't mean they can be fully employed but willing to go somewhere else if offered, it simply doesn't make sense that a self employed person can claim the payment just because their business is down a bit
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I got on to the dept AGAIN for clarifation this morning. Spoke to a lady called Maureen. I explained to her what the publication of 3/4/20 said, and she simply said anyone who believes you can claim this payment, and work at the same is grossly misinterpreting it she said, like the guy I spoke to the other day, THERE ARE NO CIRCUMSTANCES in which covid 19 payment can be claimed while working.
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As I said before the lad I've been passing work on to is claiming the benefit, reckons because he put part time on the application form he's legit
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Perhaps, as someone said on the wireless yesterday, eventually, "the blunt instrument will be sharpened".
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What I was told this morning was, there MIGHT be a supplementary payment available in addition to JOBSEEKERS,, but you certainly CANNOT claim the covid payment while working she said any application for the jobseekers, is subject to a strict means test
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You will only know how much business is down when we all go back on the road.
Drivers on here posting takings means zero and do not account for the majority of the fleet being on standby.
So from that point of view our takings are significantly down.Belker's 30% reduction in takings is only while we're all off.
So we should be taking everything that's going until they force us to do means tests.Remember 200 a week to run a taxi and probably 100 per week while it's parked up.
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You will only know how much business is down when we all go back on the road.
Drivers on here posting takings means zero and do not account for the majority of the fleet being on standby.
So from that point of view our takings are significantly down.Belker's 30% reduction in takings is only while we're all off.
So we should be taking everything that's going until they force us to do means tests.Remember 200 a week to run a taxi and probably 100 per week while it's parked up.
In means test they go with the previous years returns or income if self employed. Current income is unverifiable.
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I got the impression they would be more interested in what you have in the bank
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Don't think that's how it works.They would be interested if you had a pension though.You can have 10/20k in savings before they count against you.
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I got the impression they would be more interested in what you have in the bank
100% they are interested.
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I got the impression they would be more interested in what you have in the bank
100% they are interested.
You are allowed to have a certain amount of savings before they start to means test it. After that it’s like a euro deducted for every grand. Sometin like that, plus your previus weekly income. You the get topped up depending if you’re single or married
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I hope all youse ringing Welfare are using false names before you ask them if you can take the €350 and work part-time C:-)
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Well if you were to go with rats belief, you are quite entitled to the payment, so you need have no fear ringing welfare
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I hope all youse ringing Welfare are using false names before you ask them if you can take the €350 and work part-time C:-)
its funny you should say that... There is a lad sitting in his car outside my house for the last few days. He has a camera with a big lens pointing straight at my car. Do you think he is from social welfare. I wonder how much it costs the state for him to sit there every day.
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I hope all youse ringing Welfare are using false names before you ask them if you can take the €350 and work part-time C:-)
Of course.....Kenneth Cashman was the one i used!!
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I think Rats interpretation of "business being diminished to such an extent that you would accept full time employment elsewhere" is flawed, everybody in receipt of job seekers allowance must be "available for work", this doesn't mean they can be fully employed but willing to go somewhere else if offered, it simply doesn't make sense that a self employed person can claim the payment just because their business is down a bit
That's not my interpretation, it's the definition published by the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection.
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/68c144-what-to-do-if-you-are-self-employed-covid-19/ (https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/68c144-what-to-do-if-you-are-self-employed-covid-19/)
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You may, if your trading income has collapsed to the extent that you are available to take up other full-time employment if it was offered to you, receive a payment of €350 per week for so long as you are available to take up other work. This is equal to the standard jobseeker rate for a two adult household.
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Yes but if you WERE TO take up other employment, then you must relinquish the 350 payment. There is no way you can receive both at the same time
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I think Rats interpretation of "business being diminished to such an extent that you would accept full time employment elsewhere" is flawed, everybody in receipt of job seekers allowance must be "available for work", this doesn't mean they can be fully employed but willing to go somewhere else if offered, it simply doesn't make sense that a self employed person can claim the payment just because their business is down a bit
That's not my interpretation, it's the definition published by the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection.
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/68c144-what-to-do-if-you-are-self-employed-covid-19/ (https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/68c144-what-to-do-if-you-are-self-employed-covid-19/)
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You may, if your trading income has collapsed to the extent that you are available to take up other full-time employment if it was offered to you, receive a payment of €350 per week for so long as you are available to take up other work. This is equal to the standard jobseeker rate for a two adult household.
Nowhere in that quote does it say you may continue working, I agree it doesn't say you cannot continue working, however precedent would suggest that is the case.
2 or 3 people have contacted the department and have been told that working while receiving the PUP is not allowed.
Maybe it shouldn't be suggested that working while receiving the payment is a good idea?
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The mere suggestion to fellow posters, that you can continue to work, and claim the 350 at the same time may well result in the believers ending up in trouble
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How can you be available to take up full time work if you are already engaged working your taxi ?
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No matter what rat says, it was made aboundantly clear to TWICE by the dept of employment affairs, that there are ABSOLUTELY NO CIRCUMSTANCES in which you can work, and claim the covid payment at the same time I drew the dept reps attention to the publication realeased by the dept, and she said it is being misinterpreted, and AGAIN said there is no way you can claim, and work at the same time not the covid payment anyway
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Rat is stating exactly what it SAYS but what it says is not what it means .
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Where did that come from golfer ?
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In the sunday world dalyer .
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So says Jim Waldron from the NPhta.. Talks through him hole...
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Well I'd be delighted if it were true, less competition, and a further kick iin the bollox for dispatchers
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Less members for Jim as well, so he will be fucked..
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Fukk him, and Humpheries I'm free
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Fucking brilliant if true, Jim Waldron you say ......... Jaysus Jim in the good old days you'd have said 20,000 where's your bottle!
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We should be doing fukin cartwheels about this IF WE ARE BEING HONEST I certainly hope its true
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BUYBACK
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Rat says yet man Joe whatsit said 20,000 before
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We should be doing fukin cartwheels about this IF WE ARE BEING HONEST I certainly hope its true
Spoken like a good trade unionist.
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Buyback @ the price of licence @ issue and a guarentee you can get the dole .I would get out .
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Buyback @ the price of licence @ issue and a guarentee you can get the dole .I would get out .
Cannot see any circumstance where that would be feasible, hopefully some drivers have discovered a new way to make a living during our extended leave, certainly not 10,000 or anything like it, most of us will be back out trying to scrape by until normality resumes.
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Bob I don't claim to be a trade unionist, well not anymore anyway. I say what I think, Andi can gaurentee there's a lot more on here who would be EQUALLY delighted at the prospect of less completion. It's every man for himself now, I have seen in this game unity just doesn't exist. How many times have I said on here the only way anything would ever be achieved is through unity. Not one fukin driver on here supported me in that belief so my additude now is , fukk them every man for himself
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I would have thought that any Eircom
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Bob I was on the Dublin number 2 branch committie . I served under David Begg. Paul Reid (now HSE head )was also a branch committie member. People change. Are you seriously telling me you would be terribly under if there were 10,000 less taxis on the road ? At least I'm being fukin honest, and not pretending I give a bollox about them
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I think that the trade is at balance point regarding driver numbers, and wouldn't wish a job loss on anyone.
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Well unlike you, I think there are far far far to many fukin taxis, and that shower of cunts the NTA a while ago were trying to recruit a FURTHER 1600 .do you welcome completion bob ? Cause I certainly dont
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A trade union cannot represent 27,000 (or whatever it is) sole traders, we are in competition with each other ,we are not co workers, what we need/needed was a representative association fighting for the best outcome for the industry rather than the individual.
What we got/have are socialists looking out for individuals
What we need/needed was capitalists looking out for small businesses
In Kelly we got a minister who listened to our customers as well as the industry so we ended up with about half of what was required (the customer half)
If he'd listened only to the industry we'd still have clapped out Carinas on the fleet held together with sellotape and rented out by dodgy cunts down in west meath
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I'm not sure the people you mentioned represent ANYBODY . I haven't heard a word from any representative body that benefits existing drivers. All I hear them going in about is how many left the trade, look at Waldron tioday saying 10,000 jobs will be lost, in effect saying to the NTA you better get ready to recruit replacements ( not that they need any prompting from him) then I heard that they are promoting dispatchers although I must confess I don't know if that's true or not, but the fact is their is STILL a lot wrong with the industry, and the reps have not done much to address it
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Almost 1500 deaths and you quarrel over a couple of stickers?
Sheesh!
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I finally emailed the NTA yesterday about if I should send the tamper proof discs back.
They replied today.
Following your application to NTA for the above mentioned licence to be placed into a period of suspension, NTA confirms that this SPSV vehicle licence is now suspended until 12/08/2020. The licence is being suspended as there is currently no SPSV insurance cover on this vehicle.
The suspension of licence is being facilitated under section 12(3) of the Taxi Regulation Acts 2013 and 2016. The licence will cease to have effect during this period and the period of this suspension shall not be construed as to extend the period of operation of the licence.
Under Section 17 of the Taxi Regulation Acts 2013 and 2016, whenever a SPSV licence is suspended you must do the following immediately;
Remove the roof sign from your vehicle (Taxi/Wheelchair Accessible Taxi).
Remove NTA tamper proof discs from front and rear windows of your vehicle.
Within 21 days, return NTA tamper-proof discs AND the SPSV Licence Certificate to -
National Transport Authority, SPSV Licensing Section, PO Box 436, City North Business Park, Tuam Road, Galway.
I wonder why they suspended it until 12th August? my insurance is due end of July. rofl as usual they have made things really simple for me.
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I had a missed call from NTA Monday,tried ringing the number(Galway) but went to a voicemail saying they were closed,emailed them,still no reply,sent another mail today....shower of fukin wankers.
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I finally emailed the NTA yesterday about if I should send the tamper proof discs back.
They replied today.
Following your application to NTA for the above mentioned licence to be placed into a period of suspension, NTA confirms that this SPSV vehicle licence is now suspended until 12/08/2020. The licence is being suspended as there is currently no SPSV insurance cover on this vehicle.
The suspension of licence is being facilitated under section 12(3) of the Taxi Regulation Acts 2013 and 2016. The licence will cease to have effect during this period and the period of this suspension shall not be construed as to extend the period of operation of the licence.
Under Section 17 of the Taxi Regulation Acts 2013 and 2016, whenever a SPSV licence is suspended you must do the following immediately;
Remove the roof sign from your vehicle (Taxi/Wheelchair Accessible Taxi).
Remove NTA tamper proof discs from front and rear windows of your vehicle.
Within 21 days, return NTA tamper-proof discs AND the SPSV Licence Certificate to -
National Transport Authority, SPSV Licensing Section, PO Box 436, City North Business Park, Tuam Road, Galway.
I wonder why they suspended it until 12th August? my insurance is due end of July. rofl as usual they have made things really simple for me.
3 months suspension , same as mine.
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what if we want to go back to work earlier?
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Did yours send back 1990 ?
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what if we want to go back to work earlier?
After the E-Mail I got a call from an 086 number , NTA guy working from home just to confirm that I wanted to suspend the licence.
Anyway I would imagine if we want to go back earlier just call them. If the daisies cant be fitted back on I'm sure they will grant us a dispensation of sorts
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Did yours send back 1990 ?
I will put them in the post tomorrow. are you sending yours back?
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Ya see thats the problem for me.its gone about 7 weeks since I broke the link,and you only had 21 days to send them back si I dont know what to do
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I dropped the insurance down to private on the 15th April and sent mail suspending the licence on the 5th May, got confirmation E-Mail back from them on the 7th May. Posted the daisies back on the 7th May so posted within the timeframe.
DM its 21 days from the date you suspend (not the date of insurance adjustment). .
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Well I havent suspended my licence.all ive done was to ring them up on 30th march,and break the link
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Lads i have lost with this mess around license suspension. There is a question for you. I get an email at 29th of April with a PDF file attached saying that me license expires 29th of Jun. All the SPSV lines are suspended. You can't book your renewal at all. They really seem do not have their shit together. What is your advice?
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Lads i have lost with this mess around license suspension. There is a question for you. I get an email at 29th of April with a PDF file attached saying that me license expires 29th of Jun. All the SPSV lines are suspended. You can't book your renewal at all. They really seem do not have their shit together. What is your advice?
You have 3 months grace .
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Lads i have lost with this mess around license suspension. There is a question for you. I get an email at 29th of April with a PDF file attached saying that me license expires 29th of Jun. All the SPSV lines are suspended. You can't book your renewal at all. They really seem do not have their shit together. What is your advice?
As John says,they granted a 3 month extension for licences that were expiring and were contacting those licence holders affected...you can contact them at taxis@nationaltransport.ie also....but don't be expecting a swift response!!
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Ok John, but shouldn't they send me an email with that 3 month grace ? Did you get any confirmation about that 3 months?thx
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Look at page 2 of the NTA pdf - https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/SPSV_Industry_Information_Note_Web_Version.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/SPSV_Industry_Information_Note_Web_Version.pdf)
SPSV vehicle licences which entered or were due
to enter an expired status between 13th March and
12th June have had their validity automatically
extended by NTA for a period of 3 months, at no
cost to the vehicle owner. A notification of this has
been issued directly to each vehicle licence holder.
NTA will continue to monitor the situation.
It is important to note an SPSV cannot be operated
where the licence is in an expired status unless
the licence holder has received notification from
NTA advising that the licence has been extended
and carries this notification in the vehicle for
production.
And they posted yesterday that their telephone lines were 'temporarily' down - https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/spsv-industry-information-line/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/spsv-industry-information-line/)
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Thx Shallowhall , i know sometimes i think would be sue them straight away for that mess they couse
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Ok John, but shouldn't they send me an email with that 3 month grace ? Did you get any confirmation about that 3 months?thx
Did you check your spam folder? Or if you use gmail - check the 'all' folder.
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No email there, thanks anyway for telling me
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Thx Shallowhall , i know sometimes i think would be sue them straight away for that mess they couse
I don't hide my dislike of the NTA....they're a shower useless fuks,they've made a situation more complicated than it needed to be...imo.
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Ya see thats the problem for me.its gone about 7 weeks since I broke the link,and you only had 21 days to send them back si I dont know what to do
it is around 6 weeks since I broke the link. around 6 weeks since I suspended my insurance.
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They give you a choice of one month or three months, you musta chose three.
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They give you a choice of one month or three, you musta chose three. Ambitious if you're relying on the 3 and a half a week.
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You can lift the suspension at any time during that period...i did it on a month by month basis.
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I told them yesterday by email that I didn't know when I was going to be back working. They picked the 3 months for me.
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FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL .LISTEN YOU DUMB FUCKS .IF YOU WANT 350 IN NOTES FREE FOR 12 WEEKS PLUS A BIT MORE LATER .DISCONNECT FROM THE NCT APP .CONTACT THEM AND SUSPEND YOUR LICENCE IF YOU WANT AND REMOVE YOUR ROOF SIGN .IF YOU SUSPEND YOUR LICENCE RETURN THE DISCS AND LICENCE .IF YOU WANT TO SAVE COIN REDUCE YOUR INSURANCE COVER .BUT IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR INSURANCE INTACT YOU CAN JUST REMOVE YOUR ROOFIE AND DISCONNECT FROM THE APP .YOU DO NOT NEED TO SUSPEND YOUR LICENCE BUT YOU DO NEED TO REMOVE ROOFIE AND DISCONECT FROM THE APP IF YOU CLAIM THE COVID 350
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What if your car is parked up and not being used in any capacity, thereby not likely to be seen by anybody in authority, would you bother?
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What if your car is parked up and not being used in any capacity, thereby not likely to be seen by anybody in authority, would you bother?
We all got the Email or Sms its idiot proof .If your not working as a taxi by stating you are not to claim the coin then your not fulfilling your licencing obligations so they ask you to disconnect from the app meaning you are stating that no driver is associated with the vehicle and if it is not operating as a taxi remove the roofie .Returning the discs only applies if you suspend your licence that is the bone of contention .If you remove taxi insurance your licence is automatically suspended so they want their daisies back .
There is no legal obligation on a taxi driver to operate his taxi a fully licenced taxi can be parked in your garden and never move it is still a taxi but if you are claiming the free money you are saying that you have no work so they then say prove it so you prove it by removing yourself from the car you cant make coin driving a taxi if you are not legally sitting in the car .We know the rule if you are available for hire you fit the roofie if not remove it .4 and a half thousand euro free and we try to complicate it .
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FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL .LISTEN YOU DUMB FUCKS .IF YOU WANT 350 IN NOTES FREE FOR 12 WEEKS PLUS A BIT MORE LATER .DISCONNECT FROM THE NCT APP .CONTACT THEM AND SUSPEND YOUR LICENCE IF YOU WANT AND REMOVE YOUR ROOF SIGN .IF YOU SUSPEND YOUR LICENCE RETURN THE DISCS AND LICENCE .IF YOU WANT TO SAVE COIN REDUCE YOUR INSURANCE COVER .BUT IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR INSURANCE INTACT YOU CAN JUST REMOVE YOUR ROOFIE AND DISCONNECT FROM THE APP .YOU DO NOT NEED TO SUSPEND YOUR LICENCE BUT YOU DO NEED TO REMOVE ROOFIE AND DISCONECT FROM THE APP IF YOU CLAIM THE COVID 350
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Exactly wat I was told by an nta compliance enforcer who phoned me ...... removing stickers is fuking outrageously fukin stupid and a complete waste of time and resources...
Disconnect from app and inform insurance....bit late now o know but
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FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL .LISTEN YOU DUMB FUCKS ....
Devils Advocate: If you de-link today after 2 months, is there a danger that SW might say you've just admitted you were working until today. I've no experience with SW but might it be better to stay linked if you are linked and play ignorance if you get questioned on it?
Asking for a friend :-\
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FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL .LISTEN YOU DUMB FUCKS ....
Devils Advocate: If you de-link today after 2 months, is there a danger that SW might say you've just admitted you were working until today. I've no experience with SW but might it be better to stay linked if you are linked and play ignorance if you get questioned on it?
Asking for a friend :-\
No and yes .You must delink from the app .Just do it ring them up or e mail .Remove your roofie even if parked in your garden .The removal from the app is a NTA requirement deal with welfare later if the issue arises .Two totally different issues.
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Yes but it is the NTA who are insisting you send back the discs,not welfare,so how is it two different issues ?
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I assume the reason they want to get the discs back is to insure a driver cannot work while he has no discs ? If that is the case ,it foes to show a complete lack of trust on the part of the NTA,inspite of the fact that a good conmunity spirit has been shown by most other organisations towards rhe people who rule them.
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Yes but it is the NTA who are insisting you send back the discs,not welfare,so how is it two different issues ?
The NTA are doing what they do and asking drivers to do it but Welfare are doing what they do and watching drivers who are doing what they normally do when they shouldn't be doing it cos they're getting 350.
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I assume the reason they want to get the discs back is to insure a driver cannot work while he has no discs ? If that is the case ,it foes to show a complete lack of trust on the part of the NTA,inspite of the fact that a good conmunity spirit has been shown by most other organisations towards rhe people who rule them.
Dollyer you would struggle making Tea .Forget about Covid .The NTA do not allow a car act as a licenced taxi if it does not have taxi insurance ,So in line with their rule no insurance no taxi ,no taxi no discs .
Now Part 2 .If you claim the Covit or are not insured you need to remove your roofie and decouple from the app.
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I do claim the payment,I have removed myroof sign,I have broken the link,I am not nor have not worked for nearly 6 months now bar a 2 week period are you saying I have a further obligation ?
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I do claim the payment,I have removed myroof sign,I have broken the link,I am not nor have not worked for nearly 6 months now bar a 2 week period are you saying I have a further obligation ?
Have you asked your insurance company to remove the SPSV part of your insurance?
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I do claim the payment,I have removed myroof sign,I have broken the link,I am not nor have not worked for nearly 6 months now bar a 2 week period are you saying I have a further obligation ?
If you altered your insurance then you no longer have the legal right to call yourself a taxi so you must return your discs and blue licence .and return them to an address in Galway check the website .If you cant read get somebody else to do it for you .
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No need for sarcasm,John point taken
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No and yes .You must delink from the app .Just do it ring them up or e mail .Remove your roofie even if parked in your garden .The removal from the app is a NTA requirement deal with welfare later if the issue arises .Two totally different issues.
My roofsign is in the boot and my insurance was paid when the restrictions came in so I didn't see any advantage in de-linking. I didn't read the single line in the mid-April email about de-linking either.
Problem for me is I have family who live outside of Dublin. In case of emergency, I figured I could stick the roofsign on (essential service) and get through any roadblocks. Probably a bit moot as it turned out. An 80yr old in-law (non-taxi) drove 50kms and told the Guards he was going up to do his (50yr old) daugher's gardening. They let him through...
Also, I can prove I wasn't working because I printed out a receipt (with job number) from the tamper-proof meter when the restrictions started. If I printed another receipt today (2 months later), it would be job number+1.
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Stop crowing about stickers. NTA will show forbearance.
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Only problen you have there Watty is if you are seen on the road with a roofie you would be deemed to be for hire (working ) hope you do not have to travel
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No and yes .You must delink from the app .Just do it ring them up or e mail .Remove your roofie even if parked in your garden .The removal from the app is a NTA requirement deal with welfare later if the issue arises .Two totally different issues.
My roofsign is in the boot and my insurance was paid when the restrictions came in so I didn't see any advantage in de-linking. I didn't read the single line in the mid-April email about de-linking either.
Problem for me is I have family who live outside of Dublin. In case of emergency, I figured I could stick the roofsign on (essential service) and get through any roadblocks. Probably a bit moot as it turned out. An 80yr old in-law (non-taxi) drove 50kms and told the Guards he was going up to do his (50yr old) daugher's gardening. They let him through...
Also, I can prove I wasn't working because I printed out a receipt (with job number) from the tamper-proof meter when the restrictions started. If I printed another receipt today (2 months later), it would be job number+1.
I 'll print a shift report for the period showing no jobs done..
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I don't know how to do that and I'm not sure my meter does it either.
Laffin' - I can't remember what type I meter I have!
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I don't know how to do that and I'm not sure my meter does it either.
Laffin' - I can't remember what type I meter I have!
I've a Hale Microtax-05. If it's that I'll show you.
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Yis are overthinking all this.Welfare aren't stupid.If you got a letter they most likely saw you cruising empty or on a rank or dropping/picking up somewhere.Not just once but a few times.
If you don't get a letter don't worry about it.I've never seen the same questions asked so many times.
The lads getting letters are getting them for a reason.Let's see how many forum members who weren't actually working get letters.My plate is inactive over 5/6 weeks now and I've gotten no letters.
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Did ya send back your discs MFH ?
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No, because it's only a worthless bit of plastic and paper.We're being told to stay at home.I'm not going to the post office if I don't have to.Fuk them working from home on their laptops on full pay.
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Yis are overthinking all this.Welfare aren't stupid.If you got a letter they most likely saw you cruising empty or on a rank or dropping/picking up somewhere.Not just once but a few times.
If you don't get a letter don't worry about it.I've never seen the same questions asked so many times.
The lads getting letters are getting them for a reason.Let's see how many forum members who weren't actually working get letters.My plate is inactive over 5/6 weeks now and I've gotten no letters.
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I think why they want to know who is and who isint working has more to do with tracing than taxi work .Brenda Burbridge from the Flats gets the dredded lurgie and she says she got a taxi from the offlicence they want to be able to track the driver down check him out and if he is dizzeezed ask him who his other customers were . Easier if you have an accurate record of who is working .
Two totally different issues being confused .Operating a live taxi and getting sitting down money .
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Not overthinking anything.....i received a mail from the NTA asking..as part of the licence suspension to remove tamperproof discs and send them along with the licence cert to an address in Galway....i complied.
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On July 4th the NTA taxi regulator will celebrate 16 years in business.
I've never seen or been through a TR checkpoint in all that time.
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Not overthinking anything.....i received a mail from the NTA asking..as part of the licence suspension to remove tamperproof discs and send them along with the licence cert to an address in Galway....i complied.
I read your post and followed suit .Sometimes you actually get good advice on here .
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On July 4th the NTA taxi regulator will celebrate 16 years in business.
I've never seen or been through a TR checkpoint in all that time.
I had about 5 last time I got a fine for no meter seal I forgot when I changed car .Inspector was Ok he had a job to do .I never had any problem with them always found them curious and professional .
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On July 4th the NTA taxi regulator will celebrate 16 years in business.
I've never seen or been through a TR checkpoint in all that time.
I had about 5 last time I got a fine for no meter seal I forgot when I changed car .Inspector was Ok he had a job to do .I never had any problem with them always found them curious and professional .
They're mostly ex Garda pensioners I hear.
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One is an xtaxi driver ,from Blanch .
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Look Lads, i think there is a double bottom with this all suspension, discs, insurance certs.
We all just need to awake from this madness.
Why do you think NTA stressing out all this situation with our businesses.
We talking about our livelihoods and our families fallowing directions of KINDERGARTEN trying do what?
You all fallowing NTA directives to suspend your business. NTA serve you ! You not serve NTA correct me if i get wrong here.
Why do you think everything is so complicated? and why we follow that madness and OBEY same time Social protection throw us 350 thinking this should do you . Taking 350 and work ? There is no Work! Government shoot down economy, flights get grounded, there is no Freedom of Movements Goods and Services anymore! THERE IS NO TOURISM! Awake People! And "WHO" are those App HARVESTERS NOW ? They are the ones telling you to go out and work! and be a Hero? "WHO" do you think they represent ? THINK
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I agree with you Maxi with regard to the NTA....they didn't need to make a bad situation worse but i guarantee you when the dust settles they'll probably try and fuk as many licence holders over as they can,they've done little or nothing to put peoples minds at rest...probably made some people worse tbh at a time when peoples mental health is already being tested with the current situation.
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My mental health has been affected by the thread.
Does anyone know what will happen if I only send back one daisy?
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They'd probably expect you to only send back one and the licence cert roughly torn in half!!
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Id love to know how tour supposed to get these things off your fukin windows there supposed to.
be tamper proof,so you cpuld only get them off in tiny peices
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Id love to know how tour supposed to get these things off your fukin windows there supposed to.
be tamper proof,so you cpuld only get them off in tiny peices
Hammer and chisel
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Id love to know how tour supposed to get these things off your fukin windows there supposed to.
be tamper proof,so you cpuld only get them off in tiny peices
Borrow a hair dryer Baldy.
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I think its outside of our remiit to have to take these things off.im not putting a hair dryer near my windows
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Personally, I believe the NTA are quoting the official line when asked about the rules regarding insurance and returning stickers, under the current circumstances I'm sure they will turn a blind eye, therefore I'll risk it
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Personally, I believe the NTA are quoting the official line when asked about the rules regarding insurance and returning stickers, under the current circumstances I'm sure they will turn a blind eye, therefore I'll risk it
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I dont think its to satisfy insurance criteria, only,my insurance told me they will not be advising the NTA or anybody else about who reduced cover
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I dont think its to satisfy insurance criteria, only,my insurance told me they will not be advising the NTA or anybody else about who reduced cover
Do the insurance bandits expect us to cough up?
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THE END
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I think its outside of our remiit to have to take these things off.im not putting a hair dryer near my windows
my discs peeled off easily, no need for a hair dryer.
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Just use a heat gun at 550°.....job's oxo!! lol
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I think its outside of our remiit to have to take these things off.im not putting a hair dryer near my windows
my discs peeled off easily, no need for a hair dryer.
So did mine and then a bit of CIF creamy stuff on a cloth, Jasus you'd never know they were there
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I agree with you Maxi with regard to the NTA....they didn't need to make a bad situation worse but i guarantee you when the dust settles they'll probably try and fuk as many licence holders over as they can,they've done little or nothing to put peoples minds at rest...probably made some people worse tbh at a time when peoples mental health is already being tested with the current situation.
Thank you Shallowhal! all that NTA guidelines are made to destroy a licence holders ,
what i am preach here is a FREE MOVEMENT OF GOODS AND SERVICES ,
Why is that NTA Information Lines are Off?
Is there a Virus jump on a back of telephone operators?
There is no information for a reason to mislead you and make you fail on simple task when you scared of being hungry and homeless
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https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/it-s-not-a-nice-atmosphere-dead-calm-in-dublin-airport-1.4254625 (https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/it-s-not-a-nice-atmosphere-dead-calm-in-dublin-airport-1.4254625)
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Got this E-Mail from the NTA :
National Transport Authority can confirm we have received your Tamperproof discs and Licence Certificate.
We will contact you five days prior to your suspension ending to make a booking for reapplication. There will be no charge for the replacement of your Tamperproof discs.
Should you wish to reactivate your licence early please contact 0761 064000.
Kind regards,
National Transport Authority
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Got this E-Mail from the NTA :
National Transport Authority can confirm we have received your Tamperproof discs and Licence Certificate.
We will contact you five days prior to your suspension ending to make a booking for reapplication. There will be no charge for the replacement of your Tamperproof discs.
Should you wish to reactivate your licence early please contact 0761 064000.
Kind regards,
National Transport Authority
Thanks Hal for the Info .
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Bumpy.....
NTA rang me earlier asking if I wanted to extend my licence suspension.They didn't even mention the the tamper-proof discs once.They're still on the car.
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Double post.