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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: john m on May 05, 2020, 04:40:49 pm
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https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/court-application-by-john-waters-and-gemma-odoherty-over-covid-19-laws-adjourned-997700.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/court-application-by-john-waters-and-gemma-odoherty-over-covid-19-laws-adjourned-997700.html)
John Waters and Gemma O'Doherty's High Court challenge against laws introduced due to the Covid-19 pandemic has been adjourned to later this afternoon.
In judicial review proceedings against the State and the Minister for Health, they seek to have various pieces of recently enacted legislation quashed by a judge of the High Court.
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As was the case when the matter was before the court last week there was tight security and a large Garda presence around the Four Courts Complex.
Supporters of the two journalists remained outside barriers erected by the Gardai close to to the courtroom where the case is being heard, when only a limited number of persons were allowed in due to the pandemic.
Their application for permission to bring the challenge came before Mr Justice Charles Meenan at the High Court on Tuesday morning.
However, at the outset of the hearing counsel for the state Patrick McCann SC, appearing with Gerard Meehan Bl asked the court to adjourn the matter to 2pm today.
This was to allow the state consider a sworn statement from the applicants in support of their claim which counsel said he had not seen and had only received shortly before the hearing was due to commence.
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Mr Waters and Ms O'Doherty said that they were anxious that the application be heard as soon as possible, and opposed the adjournment.
Mr Waters told the court it was not possible to have the statement done any earlier.
He said they had received a mountain of a paper in response to their action from the Department of Health on Sunday night, which they needed to consider.
Mr Justice Meenan said he was agreeing to the State's request and adjourned the matter to 2pm.
In their action, Ms O'Doherty and Mr Waters have challenged legislation including the 2020 Health Preservation and Protection and Other Emergency Measures in the Public Interest Act, the 2020 Emergency Measures in the Public Interest Act Covid-19 Act, The 1947 Health Act (Affected Areas) Order.
Their proceedings are also aimed at striking down temporary restriction regulations brought due to Covid-19 under the 1947 Health Act.
The High Court had previously directed that the application for permission to bring the challenge be heard in the presence of the respondents.
The State is opposing the application for leave, and says that the claims are not arguable.
The Dáil, the Seanad and the Ceann Comhairle, which have been added as notice parties to the action because part of the challenge concerns how the laws the enacted is also opposed to leave being granted.
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If Waters wins this case will the Covit cash stop ?
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is that the whiney voiced cunt from the video who said to the garda do you know who I am.
stupid cunt.
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is that the whiney voiced cunt from the video who said to the garda do you know who I am.
stupid cunt.
Yes but she can whine all she likes .If the Judge says they have a case then the shit hits the fan .
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If Waters wins this case will the Covit cash stop ?
Payment will be long gone before there's a judgement
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I don't think they have a hope of winning
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Case being heard again tomorrow .
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Judgement to be reserved for...the greater good.
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I wonder if these two wee to win their case, and total lifting of restrictions were in place, would they be prepared to take moral responsibility for the vunerable people who would loose their lives as a result of this new found freedom ?
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When you look at Irelands past and our willingness to allow the State remove children from unmarried parents and sell them or get nuns to dispose of them .When the State jailed Gays Or Shot the Opposition in the Civil War and Now Ignores Shinn Fein Voters (Im not a Shinner )I FULLY SUPPORT this effort to get clarity unlike the USA where Judges are appointed for their judicial dependency to protect the Government I like to think Irish judges are more independent .The fact that this is back before the Judge tomorrow must mean there are grounds for at least a full hearing .
What I found questionable was that the Minister for Health brought forward this Legislation not the Minister for Justice makes me wonder if Justice did not agree with the law changes and would not sponsor the Bill .
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They seem to have a fair bit of support for the action, same in America mass protest everywhere to get the place opened up again
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I wonder if these two wee to win their case, and total lifting of restrictions were in place, would they be prepared to take moral responsibility for the vunerable people who would loose their lives as a result of this new found freedom ?
Dalymount its about the Constitution and if it means anything .If the Constitution does not count then what does .The law of the Jungle ?GET A GUN .Dont know if you understand how it is supposed to work .The constitution is the main laws bit like the ten commandments .So the government decide to Kill all Junkies,Unmarried Mothers men over 70 .They bring in a Law its passed by the Dail .Then Big Dommo says FUCK THAT they cant do that .The Constitution says Thou Shalt Not Kill .So Dommo goes into the Four Goldmines and says to the Judge .Your Honour how do the Government intend to Kill all Junkies ,Unmarried Mothers Men over 70 when the Constitution says Though shall not kill ...........Judge says the Government passed a Law but Dommo says "Justice it is an unconstitutional law as it would require a Referendum to remove the right to life from the Constitution .Chances are Judge would agree and strike down the law as Unconstitutional .Then it would be up to the Government to put a referendum before the people to remove one article from the constitution and replace it with another .
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So what your saying is big Dommo could conceivably get a temporary suspension , untill new legislation is passed ?
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So what your saying is big Dommo could conceivably get a temporary suspension , untill new legislation is passed ?
YES .
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I wonder if these two wee to win their case, and total lifting of restrictions were in place, would they be prepared to take moral responsibility for the vunerable people who would loose their lives as a result of this new found freedom ?
No. The restrictions will continue on an advisory basis... like cocooning. Leo cleverly slipped in that it isn't/wasn't illegal for a 70+ year old to go out or go into a supermarket when he was on the Late Late last week.
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Mr Waters ought to remember when he was glad that the State and Public Health literally picked him off the ground in the late 90s when he was in a very dark place but as ever the reformed sinner has a poor memory !
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Pair of halfwits... funny thing is they think they're relevant!
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I hope they don't, but they might get a result I don't think they will though
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Is Gemma Insane ?Waters is articulate can make an argument then Gemma goes Ziek Heil shouting about Nazis .
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If she kept her mouth shut we might think she's an idiot...
The same goes for Waters, IMO. He should stick to songwriting. His Eurovision song was by far his best work ever.
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Check out Sinead O Connors thoughts on him---(former wife and Mother of a daughter for him) and his Court case-- I get to say this with education. And because I'm sick of not saying it. John Waters is a vampire.
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If she kept her mouth shut we might think she's an idiot...
The same goes for Waters, IMO. He should stick to songwriting. His Eurovision song was by far his best work ever.
I loved that song .............What was it called again?
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Ther both examples of inherited insanity ....I think lippy lipp explained it very well one day ....the differenc between a psychopath and a sociopath....psychopaths have a deformed hippocampus or reduced or non existent amygdala wer as sociopaths are results of environment deficits ...abuse , sexually, domestic , emotional cruelty that sort of ting ......its a well know fact that journalism attracts a significant ammount of narcissistic sociopaths because of the fact it gives them a
sense of power and control over others because they write a load of shite and its spreads to great numbers therefore temporarily healing the hurt and emptiness and loss of control that they suffered as a kid ......the visit to the high court, the subsequent media coverage, the followers ( loopers aswell shouting for them outside) the social media chatter and attention negative aswell as positive all serve to remove the pain , to give the narcissist relief from the emptiness and constant incessant misery of ther existence
Ther mental illness will be recognized by the judges as long as the judges arnt mad cnuts aswell but that also is an attractive job for fruit cakes because of its facility to punish others hence the fact that most judges are off ther bleedin nut mad bastards and a significant number them are alcoholics outside court rooms cause wen they put someone away it's a high on par to a junkie injecting his morning gick into his big toe cause hes no veins left ...an they need to break the boredom outside of work hours ....
Now do you see ? :)
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Still, you'd think their respective performances at the last general election would have given them a clue.... sorry, I forgot all the counters were corrupt and allocated their votes to the Shiners... and the tallysmen were all in on it.... snooze.
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WALTERS IS A PATRIOT .Holding the State to Account .Pierce,Connolly ,Cucullen,Maodh of Connaught will all welcome him into heaven and say you done some service .Dev,Haughey ,Collins Tony Gregory will all s[] in hell thinking that cunt didnt understand the rules of the game .
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If she kept her mouth shut we might think she's an idiot...
The same goes for Waters, IMO. He should stick to songwriting. His Eurovision song was by far his best work ever.
I loved that song .............What was it called again?
Sinead said " I might be fruit loop, but Nothing compares to you.
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That cunt never stops looking for notice 8 never seen anyone like her, she doesn't know what to be doing to try and court attention
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your man walters had a sprog with shinazzer.
did'nt know that.
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your man walters had a sprog with shinazzer.
did'nt know that.
Also with her ex husband Nick Sommerlad, Donal Lunny, and Frank Bonadio.
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Is that when she was bishop of craggy island ?
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She's taken 4 bishops that we know about.
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In how many games?
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Wasn't she self appointed pope one time ? Oh no she tore up a picture of the pope , that was before she became a mussy
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your man walters had a sprog with shinazzer.
did'nt know that.
Also with her ex husband Nick Sommerlad, Donal Lunny, and Frank Bonadio.
Sorry just to clarify, it was Sinead who had all the babbies and not JW, he just helped her with one, as did the other guys. JW didnt help any of the other guys to have one, just in case ANY ONE misunderstood.
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What was the outcome of the court case anybody ?
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Reserved judgement .,So Judge says I think that I think that I think ill have to think about this for a while as there is a lot for me to think about .That means there is SOME merit to the case but the judge will decide if there is enough to order a full hearing .Ithink the judge will think that after thinking that there is not enough to offer a full hearing ....I think .So they will delay the ruling until lock down is removed then say what lockdown move along nothing to see here .
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Yes I only said yesterday myself
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What I don't understand is that....Whiney Simon Harris said we need to form a government so that some important laws can be legalized..Did all the TDs agree to the lockdown rules and is it legal..Also how can Doherty and Zappone act as ministers when they were not elected....Looks like the Irish public are agreeing to illegal control of a Country?
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Links not working for me
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I don't believe this court case really matters a jot, the judgement won't be out until after restrictions are lifted for the most part, and government can continue to advise rather than rule (cocooning for example was merely an advise to those affected and generally observed).
Also they are twats, Gemma is and John has become one over time, I seem remember a time when he made sense?
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What the judge has done is, allowed the lockdown to continue in line with government ruling, and at the same time allowed Gemma and John to save face by not ruling against them. Very clever
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You say Government ruling...but there is no legal Government...is there?
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If Waters wins this case will the Covit cash stop ?
Payment will be long gone before there's a judgement
Reserved judgement .,So Judge says I think that I think that I think ill have to think about this for a while as there is a lot for me to think about .That means there is SOME merit to the case but the judge will decide if there is enough to order a full hearing .Ithink the judge will think that after thinking that there is not enough to offer a full hearing ....I think .So they will delay the ruling until lock down is removed then say what lockdown move along nothing to see here .
Woh! looks like I was right in post number 5, and I'm never right!
Didn't take long to disprove that one
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You say Government ruling...but there is no legal Government...is there?
Yes there is .The outgoing Government are the government until the next one is agreed .The day the Dail raises for an election the Taoiseach takes his motor to the park and informs the President that he wishes to disolve the Dail .So the Dail no longer sits but the Government ,Ministers and Junior ministers stay in power just in case things need to be sorted during the Election Campaign .In normal circumstances on the first day of the New Dail a Taoiseach would be elected and he would choose his mates for the good jobs ,but we have not elected a new Taoiseach so the old government stay in Power until we do .You do not need to be a TD to be a Minister this was to allow any government bring in experts to run departments .You can imagine the First Dail people were elected for their ability to murder not their brains and intellect .Imagine a People before Profit government could they find enough TD s that can read and Write .Docherty ,Zappone,Mc Grath ,Boxer Moran,Shane Ross all Ministers but not Tds .
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I often wondered what a national government is ? I heard the term loads of times , but I haven't a clue what it is, or what it's made up of
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I often wondered what a national government is ? I heard the term loads of times , but I haven't a clue what it is, or what it's made up of
National Government is All the TDs elected agree to work togeather to get the Nation out of trouble and put aside party differences and the best person for each job gets the job and the jobs are not given out depending on how many TD s you have .If there was an Irish National Government Profit from the people would get none .Inde would get none Shinners ? Probably Docherty OBrien rest are arseholes some of them couldnt even load an Armalite Soc Dems none .Greens NONE dosent bode well for any coalition .To many Fucktards in our Dail some cant read and write to form a National Government .To many big Egoes useless cunts who believe they have ability .Every time I see Joan Collins I ask meself WHY ?Gino Kenny the thinking mans answer to Nothing .Eoin Murphy if he wasent in politics he would be managing a one person Coffee Shop in Rathmines on the wrong side of the Road .
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I'm glad I asked, cause I had the idea that it was made up of out top business people . I don't know why I thought that
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Judge going to rule tomorrow .
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Judge told them to Fuck Off .
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Proper order.....her and her likening the situation to Nazi Germany.
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Judge told them to Fuck Off .
Was he gonna say anything else but fuvk off ?
No
I do agree alot with what she says but it was never going to go her way
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I often wondered what a national government is ? I heard the term loads of times , but I haven't a clue what it is, or what it's made up of
National Government is All the TDs elected agree to work togeather to get the Nation out of trouble and put aside party differences and the best person for each job gets the job and the jobs are not given out depending on how many TD s you have .If there was an Irish National Government Profit from the people would get none .Inde would get none Shinners ? Probably Docherty OBrien rest are arseholes some of them couldnt even load an Armalite Soc Dems none .Greens NONE dosent bode well for any coalition .To many Fucktards in our Dail some cant read and write to form a National Government .To many big Egoes useless cunts who believe they have ability .Every time I see Joan Collins I ask meself WHY ?Gino Kenny the thinking mans answer to Nothing .Eoin Murphy if he wasent in politics he would be managing a one person Coffee Shop in Rathmines on the wrong side of the Road .
Agree there john
The left in this country is a joke it very fractured and under educated
Gino the most pig headed ignorant bastard u could meet I threw him out of my sisters garden I had him in a headlock lock when he refused to leave a absolutely empty vessels make most noise guy
And paul Murphy dont pay the water charges
Then he pays his
Joke
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Paul Murphy did not pay water charges in Ireland
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Paul Murphy did not pay water charges in Ireland
Yes he did he moved house
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I think murphy said in an interview he wanted to sell a property,and in order to do so he had to pay it
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Bollox Murphy , knew there is coin available for a TD to buy a house to live in their constituency .Some cute whores just move from one house in the constituency to a bigger one and claim the coin as the deal is you buy a house in your constituency nothing about moving from one to a bigger one .
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Of that's all you have on the man...then he must be the most honest man to ever sit in the Dail
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Of that's all you have on the man...then he must be the most honest man to ever sit in the Dail
I just dont rate him he even fell out with the rest
Big egos everywhere
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Him and the rest of them Pinkos are fucktards I know a man use to employ casual labour did their economic policy for then but they didnt understand why a fella in Ballymun with a battered wife and sodomized kids should have a lower standard of living than they enjoy .I would chew on me own bollox before I would vote for the Marxists fucktards .
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Ok! ....but what's the alternative....corporate policy FF/FG ...Right wing Labour...righteous mouldy Greens...Shin/ Me Feiners ..give us a chance to feck up the North and South at the same time....No perfect choices available?
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Just because fg ff arent exactly great doesn't mean the left be any better
In fact I think they wreck the country if in
Ya tink the Indian was bad well watch what the cowboy s do
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42 GET A GUN This Country is on the brink BREXIT will kill us .British economy is collapsing we export about 60% of our agri food to them .They wont pay top dollar for our stuff when they can import cheaper shite probably same quality from somewhere far far away for less .You dont need to be an economist but it helps to understand We are now spending our childrens and our grand childrens futures on Corona payments .Then Brexit an even bigger issue will mean a return to the late 70s .Hand me down clothes ,Dole ,5 a side football tournaments .One of my mates bought a house in Clare Hall put down 3K deposit bought it off the plans the interest rate went fron 5.5% to 16% while he was waiting for it to be built he ended up selling his booking on for £800 as he couldnt afford the repayments .After this passes and it will we will be back to the 70s tax rates 33% in the £ Huge tax increases on fuel and Carbon to save the planet but it wont be spent on salvation it will go on paying our Debts .For old timers no pension increase for about 10 years death duty on your Gaff if you leave it to your kids .I wouldnt take free shares in Ryanair as Foreign holidays will be only for the Middle classes .Only difference between the last 70s and this one is Garry Glitter and Jimmy Saville wont be around .Shinners are out Politicking the others they know the Economy is going to tank and they will be in power in a few years and can blame the historical partys .Then Crash the State default on all our Debts Nationalise EVERYTHING including your house and bank account for the good of the State and try build their ideal Marxist Utopia .Cuba in the rain sort ot thing .
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So can I sell my plate like they could in the 70s
Hope so
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Ask...Mary Harney
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Ask...Mary Harney
The ex health minister for obesity!!
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So can I sell my plate like they could in the 70s
Hope so
Do you think you could find anybody willing to give you £80,0000 that breed of fool is long gone .I wonder how much that amount of money invested in Gold would be worth today .The reason gold holds its value is it is scare unlike any licence that the government can print its only worth the paper its printed on .Even liquer licences use to be worth millions now all you need to do is sell food and you can apply for a licence to sell drink even off licences are only a few quid now I remember having to walk to South Circular Road from Inchicore to go to the Offlicence to buy Cider for Big Dommo and meself now every shop and garage sells gargle .We had a relation had a country pub licence was offered good money for it as there was a time you could trade two country licences for a City licence he refused the offer to hold on to the licence for his pension its worthless now .
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The one on the barn in d8 facing the church I'd a flat beside it in 1991 . 384 sc road it was
My rent for one bed bed sit in 1991 was 30 a week I dropped a African lady to same address few weeks back she paying 1080 pm now well the social is.
Right beside ur offlicence john ..Delaneys I think it was
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Ask...Mary Harney
A pure wine she was
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The one on the barn in d8 facing the church I'd a flat beside it in 1991 . 384 sc road it was
My rent for one bed bed sit in 1991 was 30 a week I dropped a African lady to same address few weeks back she paying 1080 pm now well the social is.
Right beside ur offlicence john ..Delaneys I think it was
Ah jaysus....that's inflation son....i tell ye!!
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The one on the barn in d8 facing the church I'd a flat beside it in 1991 . 384 sc road it was
My rent for one bed bed sit in 1991 was 30 a week I dropped a African lady to same address few weeks back she paying 1080 pm now well the social is.
Right beside ur offlicence john ..Delaneys I think it was
Indeed it was Delaney's TD42 and what about Lowe's , had a few there when me first was born in the Coombe about 25 years ago.
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Lowes last Feb I picked up two travelers from outside pissed drunk worst job I had in years lucky to get out of the caravan site in clondalkin alive
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Im wondering is the distance you can drive likely to be lifted on monday
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Im wondering is the distance you can drive likely to be lifted on monday
Why...where are ye goin?
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Well I was hoping to go to waterford
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Well I was hoping to go to waterford
Just go .Have you heard of anybody being stopped .Get a cardboard box selotape it shut write Samples do not open on it .If the thin blue stop you tell them you are picking up samples they say for who you just say I dont know but I was told to be carefull .Thin blue will be on their toes waving you on .
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https://youtu.be/VML1u8KJjEo
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https://youtu.be/VML1u8KJjEo
a woman in a fur coat wearing a fedora shagging a gay guy with a bad haircut playing a strange organ ... but no! it turns out he's a doctor frankenstien who is into skeletons and suits of armour .. oh no wait he's a
fucking vampire but he still likes it in the ass from a woman in a fedora .. I guess you never know who people really are !OOps she's the vampire too ! Oh
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Well I was hoping to go to waterford
I hope you are prepared to take responsibillity for all the people who die as a result of you going to Waterford . I mean there is a pandemic of a deadly virus on right now ! people who want to do things should not do so right now ( or maybe ever) to keep us all safe
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And thats why I was HOPING the restrictions would be lifted to the extent that I could go.obviously if they are not (and I dont think they will be ) then I cant ,nor wont go.so there iis really no need for you to point out my moral,or legal obligations in this regard
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Well I was hoping to go to waterford
Just go .Have you heard of anybody being stopped .Get a cardboard box selotape it shut write Samples do not open on it .If the thin blue stop you tell them you are picking up samples they say for who you just say I dont know but I was told to be carefull .Thin blue will be on their toes waving you on .
Or.drive a campervan. You're always home.
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Still 5 kilos.