Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: john m on May 15, 2020, 03:46:43 pm
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Thank you for contacting the NTA (National Transport Authority). We refer to your recent correspondence received on 12th May 2020.
There is no specific SPSV prohibition on having a clear partition between the driver and the passengers. It is important to ensure that the partition is of a shatterproof material so that in the event of any impact no danger would be presented to the driver or passengers (this would fall under general health and safety requirements in the workplace). Test certification to a known test standard should be sought to satisfy yourself that the material used has been proven to be shatterproof (the supplier should have access to this information).
In order to remain compliant with SPSV internal vehicle dimensions, sufficient legroom should remain (650mm minimum) measured longitudinally and horizontally from the front face of the backrest at uncompressed squab height to the rear face of the seat or surface immediately in front of it.
For vehicles fitted with a full dividing screen, partition or bulkhead between the driver and passenger compartment, an intercom and an induction loop is required. Signage should be placed in the passenger compartment to advise passengers of this.
Consideration should also be given to the placement of security screens in order to ensure that the effective operation of safety equipment such as side airbags are not hindered.
If you require any further information, please contact the Information Line on 0761 064000.
Kind regards,
National Transport Authority
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Making these kind of enquiries can result in FURTHER unnessesary costs to drivers.its only putting ideas into their heads,next thing you know,the fukin thing is cumpolsary
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Making these kind of enquiries can result in FURTHER unnessesary costs to drivers.its only putting ideas into their heads,next thing you know,the fukin thing is cumpolsary
They already looked at making it compulsory and rejected the idea .I was sure they would have had a policy document before they discussed fitting screens .I already knew the answer Dollymount before I asked the question I was just confirming it .They rejected compulsory screens as we all drive different types of vehicle so costs to drivers would be prohibitive .Read back over the Screen tread I told lads not to use Perspects as it is not shatterproof .The screen should be fit in a way not to injur both driver and passenger mine is designed to come loose on impact .
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I wonder will this run to 19 pages like the stickers issue!
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For vehicles fitted with a full dividing screen, partition or bulkhead between the driver and passenger compartment, an intercom and an induction loop is required. Signage should be placed in the passenger compartment to advise passengers of this.
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FFS..it gets better..
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I wonder will this run to 19 pages like the stickers issue!
The policy is simple Carry on its on your back be it .Why complicate the issue its crystal clear .
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For vehicles fitted with a full dividing screen, partition or bulkhead between the driver and passenger compartment, an intercom and an induction loop is required. Signage should be placed in the passenger compartment to advise passengers of this.
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FFS..it gets better..
That'll fall on deaf ears!
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What im wondering is how it would sit with the insurance in the event of an accident,and modification to your car
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For vehicles fitted with a full dividing screen, partition or bulkhead between the driver and passenger compartment, an intercom and an induction loop is required. Signage should be placed in the passenger compartment to advise passengers of this.
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FFS..it gets better..
FULL ? enough said on that matter .
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I wonder will this run to 19 pages like the stickers issue!
I hope so...unless Ken starts posting stories of burds rubbin their fandangles against his Mr Brennans finest sandwich wrap that he's using!!
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John thats a stayement from the NTA,not the insurance sector
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Your average interaction with a screen:
https://youtu.be/HGo4mPa_bWc
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John thats a stayement from the NTA,not the insurance sector
If you hang furry dice or mount a Child of Prague on the Dash is that a modification .
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John thats a stayement from the NTA,not the insurance sector
If you hang furry dice or mount a Child of Prague on the Dash is that a modification .
I would think not provided they comply with "general health and safety requirements in the workplace" as above.
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John thats a stayement from the NTA,not the insurance sector
If you hang furry dice or mount a Child of Prague on the Dash is that a modification .
Would that be a scented furry dice John?....we need to drill down on the detail!!
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Im quite serious.based on past experience I know the insurance will try and wriggle out of settling at the slightest opportunity.I thought you would know that.any technicality ay all and they are off the hook.I wonder did F/ N consider that when they knocked these screens out for 50 sovs
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50 sovs?...look at you down with 80's!!
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50 sovs?...look at you down with 80's!!
But do you know what a Rex is ?
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Arfur Daley,and Terrence were my heros,I STILL watch Arfur every day on gold.reminds me of the erm a bit
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Arfur Daley,and Terrence were my heros,I STILL watch Arfur every day on gold.reminds me of the erm a bit
Big Dommo was top boy in school ,with Arthur Daly ,Lovejoy ,Delboy and Dinny from Glenroe .I grew up in the flats with lads would knock spots off of any of them knew how to make a daily coin .
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I was pissing meself when I seen dinnie from glenroe
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Arfur Daley,and Terrence were my heros,I STILL watch Arfur every day on gold.reminds me of the erm a bit
John reminds me of Yogi Bear.....cos he's smarter than the average bear....and loves pic-a-nic baskets.
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Arfur Daley,and Terrence were my heros,I STILL watch Arfur every day on gold.reminds me of the erm a bit
Big Dommo was top boy in school ,with Arthur Daly ,Lovejoy ,Delboy and Dinny from Glenroe .I grew up in the flats with lads would knock spots off of any of them knew how to make a daily coin .
There was an interesting episode of Lovejoy, I sort of remember, where he had to get £3k in a day, with a starter of say £20, by buying and selling, and he did it, a bit far fetched maybe, but it was good entertainment.
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True story .I moved to Clondalkin and went into Tuttills in the Village and they had big glass fruit bowls for sale for 50p I asked for the manager and got a deal on them for 45p each then I picked up a box with a dozen in it fucking heavy I was never going to carry them all about 12 boxes so I moved two boxes at a time to the bus stop and got the bus to Ballyfermot unloaded then moved them two boxes at a time walked about 100 yards put the two boxes down then went back for two more until the pile was all forwarded by 100 yards .Then I start knocking doors selling them for a £ took me all day but I sold the lot .Made a bit of coin then If you are out around Clare Hall you will notice wodden wall placks with your house number on them I designed them use to go around all the Aluminium window fitters getting the off cuts from the window sills Teak,Oroko ,Mahogany anything more that 9 inches out of the sKip then cut them into shape and had a router and a drum sander to put a design on the edge .Sold about 50,000 of them throughout Dublin they are everywhere .I originally did them on a Bicycle then bought a car .I use to give local kids a job selling them .They would get orders I paid a£ for the first 5 you sold and £2 comission on anything over that .No problem selling 5 but the bigger commission meant your mammy would sell them for you down the bingo to her mates .I also bought a few 1000 fiber optic christmas trees that were meant for Super Value but didnt arrive in the country in time to fulfill the contract so I got them cheap again went on the knocker .Making money is easy holding on to it is the problem .I use to make decrotive steel gates but to much work .You drive out to measure up go collect the steel and decorations drive home make them up deliver them then drive home but your price dosent cover all the running around .
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In order to remain compliant with SPSV internal vehicle dimensions, sufficient legroom should remain (650mm minimum) measured longitudinally and horizontally from the front face of the backrest at uncompressed squab height to the rear face of the seat or surface immediately in front of it.
If that means what I think it means, my Octavia would be borderline. Just went out and measured. With no screen, it's about 650-670mm depending on how you measure it. As you can probably guess, I'm not very good at DIY ;D
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Its q hell of a lot less important what the NTA rules are ,then what the insurance rules are.but none of tou seem to place any importance on the fact that these scumbags would have a way out of settlng a claim because you made a modification to your car
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In another thread, someone posted they were told by their insurance company (or broker) that 'screens' were ok. No detail.
I agree with you though. I'd want something in writing from the NTA and insurance company that 'my' screen was ok before I'd put one in.
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I asked both the NTA and the insurance got conformation from both .I wonder did anybody else actually ask or do you all only post on the webulator ?
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I'm probably not gonna put in a screen unless the NTA tells me to so I don't really care.
My only concern is the NTA giving out instructions that may or may not be feasible. E.g., the 2m 'social distancing' in a taxi is impossible.
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I just dont get why taxis were deemed an essential service.if rhey were to be deemed an essential service,then I think it should have been done in such a way that a select few were chosen to carry out ONLY emergency transportation where needed,and at full fare plus .
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I'm probably not gonna put in a screen unless the NTA tells me to so I don't really care.
My only concern is the NTA giving out instructions that may or may not be feasible. E.g., the 2m 'social distancing' in a taxi is impossible.
You tell them that then and Im sure they will revoke your licence .Or you could read the builders federation guidelines about co workers and social distancing .There is an exemption for workers who need to work in close proximity .So there are exemptions .Big Dommo was in the ESSO on Ballyfermot Road today he noticed the lad inside the shop was less than 2 meters away from him when he was paying at the hatch .I would bet money the fella on the till is not bitching about it .
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Physical distancing is only one aspect of social distancing. Work from home is another...
Does your screen meet the required specs erm and, if so, are you going to go back on the tools and start flogging them?
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Physical distancing is only one aspect of social distancing. Work from home is another...
Does your screen meet the required specs erm and, if so, are you going to go back on the tools and start flogging them?
Yes it meets the requirements .And No I wont be going back on the tools .
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Did you get "certification to a known test standard" and, if so, what standard is it?
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You tell them that then and Im sure they will revoke your licence .Or you could read the builders federation guidelines about co workers and social distancing .There is an exemption for workers who need to work in close proximity .So there are exemptions .Big Dommo was in the ESSO on Ballyfermot Road today he noticed the lad inside the shop was less than 2 meters away from him when he was paying at the hatch .I would bet money the fella on the till is not bitching about it .
Maybe I'm a bit OCD but I've always been interested in 'the rules' the pen pushers send out and the 'real world'.
- As a teenager, I got kicked out of my (middle-class) youth club because I actually read the rules and argued with the 'adults' in the room.
- On the eve of leaving school, I got sent a SW ID card by SW. When I went to sign on/get in the system, I was asked for ID. I showed SW the card but they wouldn't accept it. Pen-pusher rules.
- When the money-laundering rules came in, the Bank of Ireland sent a letter using my name and address to my house asking me to prove my name and address.
- etc, etc...
It's like the Govt/NTA are saying 'everything is ok', we've sent out a press release about social distancing, screens, refusing cash, & no front seat passengers. But how does that actually work in the real world? It's like nobody in authority has asked someone who acutally has to do it. But... But... when the shit hits the fan and it ends up in court or insurance claim (or the Joe Duffy show), they'll point to their press releases and we'll be screwed!
We have to play by their rules so it's useful to know how they think?
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Did you get "certification to a known test standard" and, if so, what standard is it?
Shatter proof the plastic was certified to conform I posted the pic with the standard printed on the protective covering .Not my first rodeo Rodent .
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What standard is it?
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(https://i.postimg.cc/gxtCFB2t/20200512-162655-0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxtCFB2t)
and that gentlemen is how you make a sneeze guard for a score .
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I can't see the standard/sticker on that...
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I can't see the standard/sticker on that...
It conforms to the HIGHEST standard DIN EN iso 11963.
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You tell them that then and Im sure they will revoke your licence .Or you could read the builders federation guidelines about co workers and social distancing .There is an exemption for workers who need to work in close proximity .So there are exemptions .Big Dommo was in the ESSO on Ballyfermot Road today he noticed the lad inside the shop was less than 2 meters away from him when he was paying at the hatch .I would bet money the fella on the till is not bitching about it .
Maybe I'm a bit OCD but I've always been interested in 'the rules' the pen pushers send out and the 'real world'.
- As a teenager, I got kicked out of my (middle-class) youth club because I actually read the rules and argued with the 'adults' in the room.
- On the eve of leaving school, I got sent a SW ID card by SW. When I went to sign on/get in the system, I was asked for ID. I showed SW the card but they wouldn't accept it. Pen-pusher rules.
- When the money-laundering rules came in, the Bank of Ireland sent a letter using my name and address to my house asking me to prove my name and address.
- etc, etc...
It's like the Govt/NTA are saying 'everything is ok', we've sent out a press release about social distancing, screens, refusing cash, & no front seat passengers. But how does that actually work in the real world? It's like nobody in authority has asked someone who acutally has to do it. But... But... when the shit hits the fan and it ends up in court or insurance claim (or the Joe Duffy show), they'll point to their press releases and we'll be screwed!
We have to play by their rules so it's useful to know how they think?
I got a letter from Google today asking me to prove I lived at the address, I had to put a number into an online form, similar to your BOI letter, clever when you think about it
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I can't see the standard/sticker on that...
It conforms to the HIGHEST standard DIN EN iso 11963.
Is there a sticker on the screen confirming this.I thought all products used in the EU had to be CE or TUV approved .Is DIN not just Uk approval?If so it is not approved in the EU.
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I can't see the standard/sticker on that...
It conforms to the HIGHEST standard DIN EN iso 11963.
Is there a sticker on the screen confirming this.I thought all products used in the EU had to be CE or TUV approved .Is DIN not just Uk approval?If so it is not approved in the EU.
DIN is German.
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CE marks aren't worth a toss
A manufacturer or importer is entitled to place the CE Mark on their product after they have met the requirements of all relevant European Directives.
An importer I worked for just stuck the sticker on everything they brought it prior to dispatch, nobody checked anything and nobody seemed to give a fuck.
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Yis are all walking in to yet ANOTHER expense with these fykin screens.apart from the cost of the screen,you have the problem of the insurance,the NCT,the suitability,and God knows what other things will crop up around this.certificates,the qualify of the screen,if the distance is correct,etc your bringing all this shite on yourselfs
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500+ jobs since lockdown, no screen, no mask, no symptoms, no contact tracing, hospitals, kids, the odd cough, lucky, or tempting fate?
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Hope you dont have to spend it on medical bills
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500+ jobs since lockdown, no screen, no mask, no symptoms, no contact tracing, hospitals, kids, the odd cough, lucky, or tempting fate?
Are you a FN Ambassador ?
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Many of us probably had this thing back in December.I think they said yesterday that there were already three COVID deaths that weren't detected before the first possitve case was announced on the news in March.
Bob yer probably immune at this stage if you can get an immunity.
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Not an ambassador, there is a limit to my promiscuity.
Maybe immune, but no contact tracing back to me, from anyone who might have had it in the cab, via despatch co, or Fuk'd Now.
Is anyone aware of any driver being contact traced because anyone in the cab had the pox?
Is anyone aware of any taxi driver confirmed as having got the pox while working in his cab?
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Many of us probably had this thing back in December.I think they said yesterday that there were already three COVID deaths that weren't detected before the first possitve case was announced on the news in March.
I'm not sure that's true. In other countries, they'd done studies recently and found that only 15% or less of the population had virus antibodies in them. So if you apply that to Ireland, the virus still has plenty of victims to target!
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My sister in law tested positive for antibodies about 3 weeks ago,she is a nurse in the mater private.she didnt even know she had it her symptoms were so mild
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I meant as drivers we probably got it before many others.6% have no symptoms which is a bit mad.
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What freaks me out is that there's no clear cut 'victim'. Old people seem to die a lot but lots of them survive as well. Other things like heart & lung disease, diabetes, and obesity are factors as well. But some die and some don't.
If I could figure out who to avoid/refuse in the taxi, I'd be a happier man...
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Carriers are at their most DANGEROUS 2/3 days BEFORE they show any symptoms !
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Not an ambassador, there is a limit to my promiscuity.
Maybe immune, but no contact tracing back to me, from anyone who might have had it in the cab, via despatch co, or Fuk'd Now.
Is anyone aware of any driver being contact traced because anyone in the cab had the pox?
Is anyone aware of any taxi driver confirmed as having got the pox while working in his cab?
My nephew and his wife confirmed with covid 19.Followed all the rules but still got it.Fair play bob if your willing to risk it.
Are you a Hero providing a service? Or a hungry cunt working while claiming the 350?
Just asking like,but I kinda know the answer. ::blond
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I think a simple test for these screens would be to get somebody to sit in the back, drive down the street and get them to spray a quick squirt of Lynx Africa, if you can smell it in the front of the taxi the screen isn't worth a wank. One thing for sure I'm not going out till there's a vaccine.
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I think a simple test for these screens would be to get somebody to sit in the back, drive down the street and get them to spray a quick squirt of Lynx Africa, if you can smell it in the front of the taxi the screen isn't worth a wank. One thing for sure I'm not going out till there's a vaccine.
O fuck off you moronic fuchtard screens are useless but arsee holes like you and passengers feel safer bit like using sun screen .
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I think a simple test for these screens would be to get somebody to sit in the back, drive down the street and get them to spray a quick squirt of Lynx Africa, if you can smell it in the front of the taxi the screen isn't worth a wank. One thing for sure I'm not going out till there's a vaccine.
O fuck off you moronic fuchtard screens are useless but arsee holes like you and passengers feel safer bit like using sun screen .
Nice reply John, you must be sippin the whisky again.
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Yis are all walking in to yet ANOTHER expense with these fykin screens.apart from the cost of the screen,you have the problem of the insurance,the NCT,the suitability,and God knows what other things will crop up around this.certificates,the qualify of the screen,if the distance is correct,etc your bringing all this shite on yourselfs
I'm not puttin a screen in or wearing a mask ....I want to be normal again despite me chronic disability ocd ting malfunction ....I know that sounds funny to those that know me but ......are we goin stop shakin hands and huggin and droppin over for cup tea an all that ?
Sounds like hell to me for yous lot .....to me wit asbergers its welcome to me world but for yu lot its probably hell ....
Ya cant give in to the chinese induced plague :)
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Occi three and change is enough to keep most of us at home .Screens ,masks hand washing is not going to stop you getting it it might slow down your chances but is the feever getting stronger or weaker ,would you be better off getting it now rather than later ..The whole world has come to a stop and less people have died than would die if the Yanks or the Reds dropped one nuke .
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What about the Typhoid Marys still spreading the virus?
https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-typhoid-mary (https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-typhoid-mary)