Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Punter on June 07, 2020, 10:08:37 am
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Commercial Bus Sector & Small Public Service Vehicle sector
The NTA is aware that both the commercial bus and small public service vehicle sector have like all businesses been very severely impacted during this crisis. The government has put in place a number of supports for all business and the NTA is continuing to work with these sectors and other stakeholders to do all within our powers to support them.
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/news/introductory-statement-from-anne-graham-chief-executive-officer-national-transport-authority-2/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/news/introductory-statement-from-anne-graham-chief-executive-officer-national-transport-authority-2/)
Sent them a mail requesting the list of supports --has anybody any idea what they are--?
The PUP is a Welfare measure !
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Yes you can get 350 for staying at home .They extended your NCT .They offered a return your daisies and decouple from the app service in line with regulatory requirements .They wont offer any money as we are INDEPENDENT self employed persons and any subsidy would be illegal .They actually turned a blindone .If you read the Regulations it clearly states all branding with the Word Taxi or Tacsai must be removed from a vehicle that is not licenced or insured as a taxi .They did not demand we remove the door branding even though it was required by legislation .Im sure if some concerned driver had of contacted them to enquire why this was they would of rectified the situation and told us to remove decals .You also have the option to leave the industry and apply for Dole .
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I sent them two emails regarding the now S.I No 175 of 2020.....that gives licence holders(less than 800) who's cars will reach 10 yrs between now and Dec 31st an extra year while licence holders who will be in the same position from Jan 1st 2021 can sling their hooks,i could argue that anyone that was due to change their car should have had the funds in place to do so whereas my savings have had to be put on hold indefinitely and will severely impact me changing my car next Feb,i would also argue that ALL licence holders should have been afforded this support,
I had the usual vague reply on Fri(from a mail i sent on May 22nd) saying the measure wouldn't be extended....i will speak to my solicitor about it,why do the NTA believe that only those licence holders will be affected by Covid-19,just because business's are slowly beginning to open up doesn't mean that the economy will bounce back immediately.
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I was wondering would the fact that we're taking the government money affect any loan applications drivers might have for a replacement car.
The fact that we're needing government support is a red flag on it's own that our industry is in trouble.
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I was wondering would the fact that we're taking the government money affect any loan applications drivers might have for a replacement car.
The fact that we're needing government support is a red flag on it's own that our industry is in trouble.
Credit union mite giv yu few bob if yuv a good credit history ...the banks know yur fuked ..probably laff at yu
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I was wondering would the fact that we're taking the government money affect any loan applications drivers might have for a replacement car.
The fact that we're needing government support is a red flag on it's own that our industry is in trouble.
It's certainly affecting those who have had their mortgage approval withdrawn as a result of receiving it (or the wage subsidy)
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There was something on the journal I think.. where a couple were denied finance after loan approval because one of their employers availed of the government wage top-up scheme.
I suppose by taking the money yer saying yer business is already in trouble.
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Well I goy a very large loan from the eitcom CU,,but I gave half of it back because of the uncertainty.I dont think it will affect loans,I get notifications weekly asking me to take out loans for different things
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I saw that article re the mortgage,they've already paid 30k of their own money and contracts signed....i thought the wage subsidy scheme kept those employees on a full wage anyway....unlike us self un employed 350 merchants,
As MFH said to me in a stern message....get a grip and prepare to change your car!!...i'll just have to get a 6y/o as opposed to the 4y/o jammer i was gonna get.
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Stern!....It's still early days the NTA might give some ground on the age rules or they may see them as a chance to get rid of a few lads.
Some of us could be off the road for 6 months of 2020.They can't just ignore that.
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I've already sent off a few emails to my local TD's.....i'm sure when the sunstroke and alcohol wear off they'll bother to reply!!
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If we have to we can buy some Dacia Logan ball of shite out of our COVID monies.
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At the risk of being crucified again,,I wonder would they consider a buy back of licences to ladswho want to exit ?
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If we have to we can buy some Dacia Logan ball of shite out of our COVID monies.
I'll be contacting Panel for a loan of his rusty mincer first!!
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At the risk of being crucified again,,I wonder would they consider a buy back of licences to ladswho want to exit ?
No .If you cant make coin then do something else .
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Well I reckon ill give it another go. Dont forget im off the road since 15th Dec 2019
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At the risk of being crucified again,,I wonder would they consider a buy back of licences to ladswho want to exit ?
No .If you cant make coin then do something else .
Bit of a sweeping statement there John....i would agree to that if the economy was as it was pre lockdown but we're now in the "new normal".....unfortunately like the bar/restaurant,gigs etc...we require those same people using taxis to make coin as you put it.
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At the risk of being crucified again,,I wonder would they consider a buy back of licences to ladswho want to exit ?
No .If you cant make coin then do something else .
Bit of a sweeping statement there John....i would agree to that if the economy was as it was pre lockdown but we're now in the "new normal".....unfortunately like the bar/restaurant,gigs etc...we require those same people using taxis to make coin as you put it.
Ok lets follow your logic ,Did the Government buy back bookies licences when Paddy Power put them out of business .Will the Government buy back Pub licences when they go out of Business .There is no precident for governments EVER buying back licences .The nearest they ever got was buying Quota from fishermen .
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Well they wipes out the Monterey value of them with the stroke of a pen,so maybe they should consider restoring it so that anyone wanting to get out will have a chance to get something back instead of any new recruit only being able to buy their licence from the NTA .thats unfair
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Minister for Motoring (unelected)
Up the lane across from the Sugar Club
Dublin 2
Listen Driver
I gave a few drivers a bit of leaway on the vehicle age under the Covid 19 legislation I will not be extending this to all vehicles as it was a temporary amendment to existing rules under Covid Legislation .My buddy the Minister for not working (unelected ) gave out handfulls of coin under the same temporary legislation .Im sure you availed of the coin so stop fucking moaning about the age of your fucking car .
Respectfully Yours .
Duke od Leopardstown Minister (unelected )
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Well they wipes out the Monterey value of them with the stroke of a pen,so maybe they should consider restoring it so that anyone wanting to get out will have a chance to get something back instead of any new recruit only being able to buy their licence from the NTA .thats unfair
See you are once again misunderstanding what you have and its value .Your 6 and change bought you a Saloon licence that was valid for ONE year then for an annual fee you could renew same .Your licence has NO value after the first year of issue just a provision to be renewed for an annual fee.The ending of transferability was just a device to promote WAVS and as there is a Supreme court judgement forbiding the Minister from not issuing licences this was a reasonable action by the state .Why do you think nobody has successfully sued the state for the loss of the value of their licence .Its simple the licence has no real monetary value .
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Just aswell they gave out coin otherwise every taxi driver would be out there vying for non existent work while spreading the disease quicker than an STD,
As for the extension to licences,those licence holders are also in receipt of the PUP so by your logic should be in a better position financially as they should have had their finances in place already to change their cars but my income stream for saving will have been disrupted by 6 months while receiving just enough to live on....so i would argue that the S.I No 175 of 2020,while a good measure for those licence holders, didn't go far enough to support ALL licence holders,
Did you get a three month break on your repayments on your car John?
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Whats this for a bit of logic---The State Licenses us so we pay them --they make us renew them and we pay State again --when we buy juice we pay a lump to State again and if we put in some effort and make a profit we pay a portion to State--
The current situation they allow the streets were we operate to be downsized--they subsidize the opposition Dublin Bus/Luas/and all Semi State operations so they can compete --then they tell our punters to cycle/walk and avoid Public Transport as we pose a danger to Public Health--bit of a CONTRADICTION eh ?
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Whats this for a bit of logic---The State Licenses us so we pay them --they make us renew them and we pay State again --when we buy juice we pay a lump to State again and if we put in some effort and make a profit we pay a portion to State--
The current situation they allow the streets were we operate to be downsized--they subsidize the opposition Dublin Bus/Luas/and all Semi State operations so they can compete --then they tell our punters to cycle/walk and avoid Public Transport as we pose a danger to Public Health--bit of a CONTRADICTION eh ?
Big Dommos great Grandson says the lockdown has destroyed his business .Mc Donalds closing means he cant get a paper cup and the Lockdown means nobody on the streets to beg from his Dealer is not giving lay on so he had to go Cold Turkey .He dosent know when he will be back in business he cant live on 203 a week .Its all about perspective
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The NTA are a shower of wasters....when the taxi regulator was our master,they had 20 mill in their bank account...that was until it was subsumed into the NTA....where it disappeared quicker than an investment with Lehman Brothers.....have no doubt that our licence fees subsidise Dub Bus etc....we were a cash cow to those arseholes in the NTA but they give very little back....extending licences would cost them nothing unless they get a brown envelope from meter,sticker installers....wouldn't fukin surprise me tbh!!
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Approx 20,000 drivers x €250 = €5 million. That probably wouldn't even pay the salaries of the NTA.
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Approx 20,000 drivers x €250 = €5 million. That probably wouldn't even pay the salaries of the NTA.
What's the 250 watty....are you averaging WAV and taxi licence fees?
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My apologies. I was thinking the Suitability/LRA was €250 (driver licence) instead of €150/year. 20,000 drivers x €150 = €3 million. Same general point applies.
Google says Dublin Bus's annual 'operating costs' were ~€300 million/yr (~€800k/day). The NTA/DB is not waiting around for our money to hit their bank accounts :P
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My apologies. I was thinking the Suitability/LRA was €250 (driver licence) instead of €150/year. 20,000 drivers x €150 = €3 million. Same general point applies.
Google says Dublin Bus's annual 'operating costs' were ~€300 million/yr (~€800k/day). The NTA/DB is not waiting around for our money to hit their bank accounts :P
Maybe not...but they blew 20 mill and couldn't produce one piece of paperwork to where the fuk it went....i s'pose that's the difference between a private biz and a govt quango!!
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Well they wipes out the Monterey value of them with the stroke of a pen,so maybe they should consider restoring it so that anyone wanting to get out will have a chance to get something back instead of any new recruit only being able to buy their licence from the NTA .thats unfair
Ah dems was days Jem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNrygTqx0FA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNrygTqx0FA) 8)