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Title: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: john m on June 23, 2020, 10:19:54 am
People claiming the Covid-19 unemployment benefit are risking the prospect of big repayments if they work even a couple of hours a week.

Concerns have been raised that some recipients may not realise they must close their claim, even if not working full-time.

This may apply to part-time or self-employed workers who return to work on reduced hours, or are contracted to carry out individual projects.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: john m on June 23, 2020, 10:22:56 am
When Brige or Orlath do the review of payments some lads that worked and claimed will get big demands for repayments .I heard some Pubs doing take awats have been visited by revenue taking names of staff that were working .
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: john m on June 23, 2020, 10:48:50 am
I know a few Double Jobbers got the Covid payment from their Main Employment but still drove their Taxi .If Free Now are audited there might be some huge demands for repayments .
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2020, 11:10:25 am
I know a few Double Jobbers got the Covid payment from their Main Employment but still drove their Taxi .If Free Now are audited there might be some huge demands for repayments .

Well hopefully they are audited Johnny
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: john m on June 23, 2020, 11:19:43 am
Think there might of been some misunderstanding about payments but it was clear to me .If you got the PUP you had to be AVAILABLE to take up work .How could you be available to work if you were already working ?
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Octavia1 on June 23, 2020, 12:07:57 pm
If free now gave ther figures to the taxman ...I imagine the licky lackys would have removed ther stickers....how much tax would you be paining on 100k a year ? 
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Belker on June 23, 2020, 12:48:19 pm
I know a few Double Jobbers got the Covid payment from their Main Employment but still drove their Taxi .If Free Now are audited there might be some huge demands for repayments .
Well hopefully they are audited Johnny
Seemingly the Revenue have already been on to FN looking fer a list of drivers working.
Revenue can easily cross check with those FN drivers working and claiming the 350 Covid.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 23, 2020, 01:06:19 pm
Id be surprised if they have been in touch with FN,but I suppose they could have been
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on June 23, 2020, 01:13:38 pm
I know a few Double Jobbers got the Covid payment from their Main Employment but still drove their Taxi .If Free Now are audited there might be some huge demands for repayments .
Well hopefully they are audited Johnny
Seemingly the Revenue have already been on to FN looking fer a list of drivers working.
Revenue can easily cross check with those FN drivers working and claiming the 350 Covid.

laffin.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Billy boy on June 23, 2020, 02:36:32 pm
I know a few Double Jobbers got the Covid payment from their Main Employment but still drove their Taxi .If Free Now are audited there might be some huge demands for repayments .
Well hopefully they are audited Johnny
Seemingly the Revenue have already been on to FN looking fer a list of drivers working.
Revenue can easily cross check with those FN drivers working and claiming the 350 Covid.
same rumour going around about ck2 today... Its hard to believe
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: silverbullet on June 23, 2020, 02:42:36 pm
I'm sure the same applies to any cab company. Most of whom are only doing account work. Those payments have to be paid into a bank account.

Revenue is not stupid and will share information with the Department of Social Welfare.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: john m on June 23, 2020, 02:48:38 pm
I'm sure the same applies to any cab company. Most of whom are only doing account work. Those payments have to be paid into a bank account.

Revenue is not stupid and will share information with the Department of Social Welfare.

No need to share I think Revenue are responsible for the Payments .They will just press a Button and get a printout .
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on June 23, 2020, 02:50:56 pm
we're up to 119 drivers caught working and claiming in finglas now.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: silverbullet on June 23, 2020, 02:51:47 pm
I'm sure the same applies to any cab company. Most of whom are only doing account work. Those payments have to be paid into a bank account.

Revenue is not stupid and will share information with the Department of Social Welfare.

No need to share I think Revenue are responsible for the Payments .They will just press a Button and get a printout .
The COVID payment came from the Department of social protection.

Being reimbursed may be the remit of Revenue.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: stonethecrows on June 23, 2020, 03:30:25 pm
Id be surprised if they have been in touch with FN,but I suppose they could have been

Cant rememebr now, but did we give our PPS numbers to Hailo/Mytaxi/FN when we started ?

I would imagine that is the only way they would do a cross check
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: silverbullet on June 23, 2020, 03:38:08 pm
Id be surprised if they have been in touch with FN,but I suppose they could have been

Cant rememebr now, but did we give our PPS numbers to Hailo/Mytaxi/FN when we started ?

I would imagine that is the only way they would do a cross check
if the Gardai can do a financial background on you, Revenue - of which the Gardai are a branch - certainly can.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: stonethecrows on June 23, 2020, 03:59:05 pm
Id be surprised if they have been in touch with FN,but I suppose they could have been

Cant rememebr now, but did we give our PPS numbers to Hailo/Mytaxi/FN when we started ?

I would imagine that is the only way they would do a cross check
if the Gardai can do a financial background on you, Revenue - of which the Gardai are a branch - certainly can.

I'd say there is a lot of worried/sweaty drivers out there so  ::fds
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 23, 2020, 04:05:46 pm
Thats exactly the job my mate does,when a STR  is generated ( suspicious transaction report) its his job to look at bank accounts,and other things.he never tells me much about about it,but he did tell me there are a huge amount of taxi drivers under investigation at the moment,and it is not just to do with covid payments either
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 23, 2020, 04:33:29 pm
Thats exactly the job my mate does,when a STR  is generated ( suspicious transaction report) its his job to look at bank accounts,and other things.he never tells me much about about it,but he did tell me there are a huge amount of taxi drivers under investigation at the moment,and it is not just to do with covid payments either

Not exactly, investigating STRs has more to do with money laundering and criminal activity
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: stonethecrows on June 23, 2020, 04:34:03 pm
My Sister-in-law works for Dept of Finance (i think), anyways part of her job is to investigate suspected money laundering.

She visits garages,bookies etc and asks/demands to see the books , cant get away with a lot of cash these days you know.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 23, 2020, 04:43:41 pm
A group of cream crackers in balinasloe were apperently involved in a covid scam worth 5 million.I dont how they did it,but it seems a large number of them were claiming up to 5 or 6 covid payments a week each using false documentation,names etc
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 23, 2020, 04:46:06 pm
Luckily we don't charge VAT, as this is the main reason for an audit.
Lifestyle is what will get you snookered if you misbehave as a taxi driver
Taxi drivers believe they earn good money because of the takings, when you deduct what's paid out the pittance that's left doesn't really interest revenue
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 23, 2020, 05:02:36 pm
Someone asked if Freenow have our PPS numbers and I can't remember.But the NTA definitely have it so welfare/revenue could easily cross-reference if they were bothered.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: stonethecrows on June 23, 2020, 05:56:28 pm
Someone asked if Freenow have our PPS numbers and I can't remember.But the NTA definitely have it so welfare/revenue could easily cross-reference if they were bothered.
How would the NTA know if guys claiming the Covid Rent were out working ?
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Lizzzy on June 23, 2020, 05:59:05 pm
Id be surprised if they have been in touch with FN,but I suppose they could have been

Cant rememebr now, but did we give our PPS numbers to Hailo/Mytaxi/FN when we started ?

I would imagine that is the only way they would do a cross check
if the Gardai can do a financial background on you, Revenue - of which the Gardai are a branch - certainly can.

I'd say there is a lot of worried/sweaty drivers out there so  ::fds

I saw them taking a taxi drivers details, last week in Eyre Square.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 23, 2020, 06:06:03 pm
Welfare had spotters out and about with the Garda checkpoints during the lockdown.All they'd be doing is cross-referencing one list with another.

If welfare walked into Freenow tomorrow they would willingly handover any info without a warrant.They're hardly gonna tell them to piss off.It's a poxy app company not the Mafia.

Anyway I wouldn't be bothered if I was caught just plead ignorance and they'd make you pay it back over a few years.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Lizzzy on June 23, 2020, 06:22:49 pm
Welfare had spotters out and about with the Garda checkpoints during the lockdown.All they'd be doing is cross-referencing one list with another.

If welfare walked into Freenow tomorrow they would willingly handover any info without a warrant.They're hardly gonna tell them to piss off.It's a poxy app company not the Mafia.

Anyway I wouldn't be bothered if I was caught just plead ignorance and they'd make you pay it back over a few years.

Would you get a tax Clearance Cert?
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 23, 2020, 06:28:35 pm
Not sure Lizzzy it would probably have to go to court or something.

Which reminds me I wonder how many app drivers won't be able to pay their tax bill this year?Some Gold medal heroes would be owning 5/6/7k for 2019.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: watty on June 23, 2020, 06:34:17 pm
How would the NTA know if guys claiming the Covid Rent were out working ?
Someone posted a SW letter on here a few weeks ago that said something like they were spotted working on city centre CCTV and claiming the 350.  And would they like to give up the 350?  It was a polite way of saying 'gotcha, ya cheating bastard'.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 23, 2020, 06:38:10 pm
Think there was 39 caught in finglas alone.they should check out the northside shopping centre rank
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: silverbullet on June 23, 2020, 07:11:21 pm
A group of cream crackers in balinasloe were apperently involved in a covid scam worth 5 million.I dont how they did it,but it seems a large number of them were claiming up to 5 or 6 covid payments a week each using false documentation,names etc
What job could they not do as a result of COVID 19 restrictions?
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Shallowhal on June 23, 2020, 07:54:42 pm
we're up to 119 drivers caught working and claiming in finglas now.

Scumbag Finglas cunts.....rankers on the hills!!
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 23, 2020, 08:06:28 pm
You serious 119 ?
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Shallowhal on June 23, 2020, 08:16:36 pm
Probably all from the south aswell,the ones with their gaff stone cladded!!
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 23, 2020, 08:32:33 pm
I hear some statue in north strand was defaced yet again,they reckon it was the LBGT crowd or whatever that brown hatters orginisation are called
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Shallowhal on June 23, 2020, 08:38:21 pm
I hear some statue in north strand was defaced yet again,they reckon it was the LBGT crowd or whatever that brown hatters orginisation are called

Fairview Pk.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 23, 2020, 09:39:34 pm
Old article, I thought this was interesting:

Issues­ in­ the­ department­ were­ first ­raised­ shortly ­after ­the ­launch­ of­ the­ emergency­ payment­ on­ March­ 16.­ Internal­ correspondence,­ seen­ by­ the­ MoS,­ shows­ that­ at­ the­ start­ of­ April­ cross-checks­ with­ Revenue­ found­ 700­ applicants could not ­show­ they ­had­ been­ ­working ­prior ­to­ applying.

Internal­ correspondence,­ seen­ by­ the­ MoS,­ shows­ that­ at­ the­ start­ of­ April­ cross-checks­ with­ Revenue­ found­ 700­ applicants could not ­show­ they ­had­ been­ ­working ­prior ­to­ applying.  They­ were­ identified­ as­ having­ no­ payslips­ in­ 2020,­ or­ in­ the­ case­ of ­the ­self-employed­ applicants,­ no­ Class­ S ­contributions­ in­ the ­relevant­ year.

https://extra.ie/2020/05/17/news/irish-news/covid-19-welfare-payment-bogus
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: vandriver on June 24, 2020, 12:53:35 am
Which reminds me I wonder how many app drivers won't be able to pay their tax bill this year?Some Gold medal heroes would be owning 5/6/7k for 2019.

Already paid,thanks.
So I just have 2020 preliminary tax to pay in October.
I reckon I'll throw them 2k and worry about it in 2021.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 24, 2020, 03:15:02 am
Fair play I haven't even thought about me own VD.But you'd be one of many with relatively large returns compared to only ten years ago.If it gets as shit as it was back a 5k tax bill would be a huge ask for any driver.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 24, 2020, 07:20:37 am
I have NEVER paid preliminary tax,I dont think its compulsory
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Tony on June 24, 2020, 07:45:20 am
I have NEVER paid preliminary tax,I dont think its compulsory

+1
I was never asked about it either
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 24, 2020, 10:22:23 am
Which reminds me I wonder how many app drivers won't be able to pay their tax bill this year?Some Gold medal heroes would be owning 5/6/7k for 2019.

Already paid,thanks.
So I just have 2020 preliminary tax to pay in October.
I reckon I'll throw them 2k and worry about it in 2021.

You can pay preliminary tax monthly by direct debit, therefore you won't be in arrears (assuming the 2K doesn't cover the whole payment)
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Justin Time on June 24, 2020, 11:59:43 am
I hear some statue in north strand was defaced yet again,they reckon it was the LBGT crowd or whatever that brown hatters orginisation are called

Whos they ?

The defacement of the statue was painted in numerous colours. People are seeing red (literally) and a few other colours and are saying it must have been done by LGBTQ people. I mean FFS . Does that mean when someone defaces a shop in town with blue paint, the culprits must be smurfs?
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 24, 2020, 12:05:02 pm
I disnt say it was the LQUBGT or whatever they are called,I it is assumed by some it was them because of the colour on the statue
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Justin Time on June 24, 2020, 12:14:16 pm
I disnt say it was the LQUBGT or whatever they are called,I it is assumed by some it was them because of the colour on the statue

"they reckon it was the LBGT crowd or whatever that brown hatters orginisation are called".

FYI  its LGBTQ.

Your assumption is  ridiculous.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 24, 2020, 12:17:42 pm
Thats not my assumption,the word they is widly used in most context to describe a feeling amongst  a griup of people.no doubt you have used it many times yourself in similar circumstances
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Justin Time on June 24, 2020, 12:21:37 pm
Thats not my assumption,the word they is widly used in most context to describe a feeling amongst  a griup of people.no doubt you have used it many times yourself in similar circumstances

What ARE you talking about?
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 24, 2020, 12:27:45 pm
If tou read back ,did you not ask whos they ?
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Justin Time on June 24, 2020, 12:31:36 pm
If tou read back ,did you not ask whos they ?

I did yes, which you never answered.

But the above post is odd!
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Tony on June 24, 2020, 01:22:42 pm
If tou read back ,did you not ask whos they ?

I did yes, which you never answered.

But the above post is odd!

An odd post in here?
NEVER
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 24, 2020, 01:32:47 pm
I did answer,and not only did I answer,but I explained in detail to you the context in which one might use the word they to describe a feeling expressed by a group of people
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Justin Time on June 24, 2020, 01:36:54 pm
I did answer,and not only did I answer,but I explained in detail to you the context in which one might use the word they to describe a feeling expressed by a group of people

You went on about the "word" "assumption" and how it was used. But you never answered who "they" were in your assumption about the defacing of the Russell Statue.

Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 24, 2020, 01:41:32 pm
They are the people who rang the Joe Duffy show condeming the acrions of the culprits,they are the people who rang the evening hearald,and various other newspapers aith similar complaints,they are the people who talk openly in the street about this act of vandalism,etc im surprised you need to have it explained who THEY are
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Justin Time on June 24, 2020, 01:45:30 pm
They are the people who rang the Joe Duffy show condeming the acrions of the culprits,they are the people who rang the evening hearald,and various other newspapers aith similar complaints,they are the people who talk openly in the street about this act of vandalism,etc im surprised you need to have it explained who THEY are

Ah Joe Duffy listeners? Ah mystery solved then,it must be true so.

I'll sleep well tonight.
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 24, 2020, 02:30:49 pm
You were not arguing about which source it came from,your question was who are they .please try and understand this time
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: Justin Time on June 24, 2020, 02:36:04 pm
You were not arguing about which source it came from,your question was who are they .please try and understand this time

Erm, you're actually contradicting yourself there. But I think we will leave things alone for now.

As long as we finally know who the "they" are i.e. the wonderful Joe Duffy listeners, then all is well.

Thank you
Title: Re: Covid payments get your covid payments
Post by: dalymount on June 24, 2020, 02:58:38 pm
With the very first word you said,I could be forgiven for thinking you ate talking to Johnny,but then again maybe tou are,you have already talked about your confusion earlier