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Title: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 06:16:09 am
Sole traders and tradesmen affected by Covid-19 can avail of a new €1,000 one-off grant for related expenses.

The funding - which has been dubbed the 'white-van man' grant - will be available to self-employed workers and small business owners.

The grant is aimed at sole traders such as plumbers, electricians, carpenters and taxi drivers who are trying to return to work after the coronavirus lockdown.

It is a new support for self-employed businesses that are not eligible for other Covid-19 Government grants.

The money is available to business owners who employ fewer than 10 people, are not liable for commercial rates and have an annual turnover of less than €1m.

It will be paid on the basis of expenditure incurred by a business seeking to get back to work and cover all costs up to €1,000.

The funding can be used to pay for salaries, fuel, new equipment, signage or personal protective equipment (PPE).

The Enterprise Support Grant previously provided support for entrepreneurs to set up new enterprises.

But it has now been reconfigured to specifically provide one-off supports for self-employed people who have been severely impacted and have had to cease operations as a result of the pandemic.

The grant will be paid to anyone who was on the pandemic unemployment payment during the early stages of the Covid-19 emergency but are now returning to work.

Funding for the scheme was secured by Social Protection Minister Heather Humphreys during negotiations on the July Jobs Stimulus package.


It is among a range of government initiatives and funding aimed at getting people back to work after months of coronavirus restrictions closed down the country and forced thousands of businesses to close.

The self-employed and sole-trader sector was among the worst impacted by the national quarantine.

Ms Humphreys said the self-employed "are crucial to our economic recovery" and said the grant will help them "get back on their feet".

"Thousands of sole traders and small business owners right across the country have in recent months been in receipt of the Covid-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment.

"For many, this was the first time they ever had to apply for State support," Ms Humphreys said.

"In the past, the Enterprise Support Grant was designed to assist people in opening a business.

"Today, I'm opening applications to people who need assistance in getting back on their feet and their businesses back up and running.

"Whether it's paying wages, fuel costs, purchasing PPE and signage - this is an important grant so if you're a plumber, carpenter or electrician who is transitioning back to work, or the taxi driver getting your car back on the road, this grant may be of interest."

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/grant-worth-1000-to-support-white-van-man-39448883.html (https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/grant-worth-1000-to-support-white-van-man-39448883.html)
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 06:41:23 am
In the taxi-waiting area at Dublin Airport on a recent Sunday morning drivers were playing cards, reading newspapers and walking lengths of the bay for exercise until called up to the rank at Terminal 1 for a fare.

Taxi drivers countrywide have reported slow business. Even though the most severe coronavirus restrictions have lifted in most counties, the closure of pubs, tourism, events and working from home means business has declined.

The average waiting time between fares is two to three hours, according to the drivers; but it can be longer. In the city centre the time between fares is at least an hour, they added.

Colm O’Brien said on one shift last week he was waiting five hours before he got a fare.

“I arrived here one day last week at 6pm, I had a zoom meeting at 8pm and I was still here for it. I was still here until 10:55pm and eventually got a job at 11:05pm,” he said. “Now that is unusual on that end, the average is normally three hours.”

Declan Peelo said his income has been reduced to between 30 and 50 per cent of pre-Covid takings, depending on the day.

“The stories that there were loads of Americans coming in, that’s just not true. It’s all either Irish people who live abroad coming home, or foreign workers who were stuck somewhere else coming back.”

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If the airport is so quiet, has he considered going elsewhere to get work?

“The city centre is the exact same,” he explained. “Instead of trying to decide where I’m going to work, now I’m basically just deciding where I’m going to park. I get maybe three jobs a day now. Before Covid, I could get seven or eight.”

There are 26,371 valid taxi licences registered with the National Transport Authority. A spokesman said about 55 per cent of the suspended licences have been reactivated. He added that this figure “aligns” with anecdotal information suggesting which business is 30 to 50 per cent of normal.


Declan Peelo: ‘The stories that there were loads of Americans coming in, that’s just not true.’ Photograph: Tom Honan/The Irish Times.
Declan Peelo: ‘The stories that there were loads of Americans coming in, that’s just not true.’ Photograph: Tom Honan/The Irish Times.
Colm O’ Brien said on one shift last week he was waiting five hours before he got a fare. Photograph: Tom Honan/The Irish Times.
Colm O’ Brien said on one shift last week he was waiting five hours before he got a fare. Photograph: Tom Honan/The Irish Times.
“However late night and weekend business, trips to and from airports and business around major public events and tourism remains vastly reduced,” he added.

Jim Waldron, a spokesman for the National Private Hire and Taxi Association, which represents some 5,000 drivers, said the income for taxis has been massively reduced and some drivers are now working around the clock to make enough money.

“What’s happening is the guys are working a 12-hour day instead of eight to try and get a full daily income. In 12 hours, they’re still not earning what they got in the eight hours,” according to Mr Waldron.

“At the moment, fellas are probably earning about €6 an hour. There would be exceptions, depending on what jobs you get. I’m aware of fellas being out there working 24-hour shifts, on the basis that they had to get money.”

The rank at Terminal 1, Dublin Airport. Photograph: Tom Honan/The Irish Times
The rank at Terminal 1, Dublin Airport. Photograph: Tom Honan/The Irish Times
On the rank: Joe Fagan (left) and Joe Mulholland. Photograph: Tom Honan/The Irish Times.
On the rank: Joe Fagan (left) and Joe Mulholland. Photograph: Tom Honan/The Irish Times.
Joe Fagan, who has been a taxi driver for 35 years, said the industry has never been in such a bad situation. Joe Mulholland said the costs were beginning to build up for him, putting him under pressure.

“I still have to pay my insurance, my licence, my NCT, my suitability test. I just installed a screen for €250 that I won’t get back. So the costs are the same, but I don’t have the business coming in.”

Stephen Kearns (30) decided to stop driving after almost eight years in the industry because he was not making enough money. He is now in the process of setting up his own landscaping business.


“I had to leave the business. I have a family to support. You could be doing a 10-hour shift and getting €100 but by the time you take your expenses out of it, you’re getting €5 an hour,” he said.

“Luckily I had another skill. I’m a a qualified bricklayer so now I’m in the early stages of setting up a landscaping business. I’ve work booked for the next six weeks. I really enjoyed it [taxi driving] but it had to be done. It wasn’t feasible.”
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 06:43:16 am
CAN YOU IMAGINE AN INDUSTRY REP MAKING SUCH A FUCKING STUPID STATEMENT .Time to chip the meter to stop this unsafe practice ..“At the moment, fellas are probably earning about €6 an hour. There would be exceptions, depending on what jobs you get. I’m aware of fellas being out there working 24-hour shifts, on the basis that they had to get money.”
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 14, 2020, 07:30:42 am
There's no way yer man represents 5000 drivers is there?Maybe they meant 500.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Horse on August 14, 2020, 07:34:55 am
I thought there was drivers out there saying they're doing OK and its busy enough.  Not to mention some of the licky lackys who manage to stay on gold status week after week,  which equates to at least 10 jobs a day for a 6 day week.  I was half thinking of going back soon myself but after reading that I have changed my mind. I'd rather be bored at home getting my 350 with no taxi overheads to pay than to be bored sitting on ranks, driving aimlessly around with overheads to pay and getting stressed being on €6 an hour. Fook that, I'll sit it out for a bit longer.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 14, 2020, 07:55:03 am
Taxi insurance on it's own costs minimum of 50 a week.Plus at least 50 and upwards for fuel.

Forgetting about licencing costs and wear and tear you'd need to earn €517.50 (including freenow commissions) and upwards before you are better off.It doesn't make sense for the lads who don't need much to return yet.

Even if they get cut to 250 September 17 they need to earn at LEAST €402.50 to be better off.

I know which one I'll be choosing.


Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Theoneandonly on August 14, 2020, 07:55:53 am
Taxi drivers are professional moaners, Keshies are the elite moaners and Jim is the leader of that pack, thought he'd be in better form with LFC winning the league though.

I have vat receipts for my original screen, masks and signage, got the car serviced but I doubt that'll be allowed
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Theoneandonly on August 14, 2020, 07:57:54 am
Taxi insurance on it's own costs minimum of 50 a week.Plus at least 50 and upwards for fuel.

Forgetting about licencing costs and wear and tear you'd need to earn €517.50 (including freenow commissions) and upwards before you are better off.It doesn't make sense for the lads who don't need much to return yet.

Even if they get cut to 250 September 17 they need to earn at LEAST €402.50 to be better off.

I know which one I'll be choosing.

Come up with some illness and you could be on benefits for the rest of your life ... quids in! sounds like the life you want?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 14, 2020, 08:19:18 am
^^^Ah no, Roy long term illness benefit is tempting.I'll be back.. just not until it's more..eh feasible. I'm getting bored.


Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 09:42:03 am
Enterprise Support Grant for businesses impacted by COVID-19 (https://www.gov.ie/en/service/739f3-enterprise-support-grant-for-buisnesses-impacted-by-covid-19/) (14 Aug)

- This will provide business owners with a once-off grant of up to €1,000 to re-start their business which was closed due to the COVID-19 Pandemic.

Quote
Rate of Payment
Funding will be awarded for eligible costs up to a maximum of €1,000.
Grants will be awarded on costs related to reopening your business, including:

- safety measures
- business advice or mentoring
- repairs
- fuel
- wages
Normal business costs are not generally included.

Form (PDF) = https://assets.gov.ie/84228/5f1a81b7-5bf6-479f-8b9d-500b1a5abf16.pdf (https://assets.gov.ie/84228/5f1a81b7-5bf6-479f-8b9d-500b1a5abf16.pdf)
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 09:43:15 am
Is the grant taxable?  Would you have to add it on to your income at the end of the year?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 09:53:33 am
From the pdf application form:

Quote
Eligible Costs
Eligible costs must be related to the restart of your business (net of VAT for VAT registered businesses). Costs incurred since 13 March can be included in your application. Examples of eligible costs include:
• Capital costs incurred for the purchase of equipment including signage and personal protective equipment;
• Repairs, maintenance and installation of safety measures;
• Business training, mentoring and coaching;
• Advertising and marketing;
• Salaries (accompanied by payslips where the Temporary Wage Subsidy Scheme is not payable);
• Vehicle running costs including fuel;
• Accountancy and related services, and legal advice; and
• Public liability and indemnity insurance costs.

Business consumables directly related to trading will not generally be accepted.

Eligible = Vehicle running costs including fuel;
Not Eligible = Business consumables directly related to trading will not generally be accepted.

Wonder what that means for us?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 10:25:26 am
NOT ONE OF YOU COMMENTED ON HIS COMMENT .A SO CALLED INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVE STATED DRIVERS ARE WORKING BEYOND THE LEGAL LIMITS .IN SOME CASES HE STATED TO A NATIONAL NEWSPAPER THAT ..(At the moment, fellas are probably earning about €6 an hour. There would be exceptions, depending on what jobs you get. I’m aware of fellas being out there working 24-hour shifts, on the basis that they had to get money.”)24  HOUR SHIFTS  I wonder if he reported this dangerous practice to either the Gards or the taxithingey .Im sure Minister Ryan who would like to see taxis reduced will consider introducing chips for your meter to prevent you continuing to accept fares after you are on duty for 11 hours ,A sort of tachograph like they have in France .
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Golfer14 on August 14, 2020, 10:35:55 am
Very easy to do -i remember talking to a renter one day ,he was driving a rental  heap from Skan  .Said he must pay his freight before 5 pm on a friday evening or the meter shuds down ..
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Shallowhal on August 14, 2020, 10:59:49 am
There are 26,371 valid taxi licences registered with the National Transport Authority. A spokesman said about 55 per cent of the suspended licences have been reactivated. He added that this figure “aligns” with anecdotal information suggesting which business is 30 to 50 per cent of normal.


The NTA failed to mention that licence holders were forced to reactivate their licences,i know i wouldn't have reactivated mine had they extended the suspension period.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 11:16:00 am
NOT ONE OF YOU COMMENTED ON HIS COMMENT .A SO CALLED INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVE STATED DRIVERS ARE WORKING BEYOND THE LEGAL LIMITS .IN SOME CASES HE STATED TO A NATIONAL NEWSPAPER THAT ..(At the moment, fellas are probably earning about €6 an hour. There would be exceptions, depending on what jobs you get. I’m aware of fellas being out there working 24-hour shifts, on the basis that they had to get money.”)24  HOUR SHIFTS  I wonder if he reported this dangerous practice to either the Gards or the taxithingey .Im sure Minister Ryan who would like to see taxis reduced will consider introducing chips for your meter to prevent you continuing to accept fares after you are on duty for 11 hours ,A sort of tachograph like they have in France .
No 'trade union' rep, esp a taxi rep, has ever given a sober analysis of the situation.  I'm sure most people read that and gave a little sigh.

Incidentally, I bumped into a priest the other day who told me that if I didn't repent my sins, I'd go to hell.  I nodded and kept walking...  Do ya think he was telling the truth?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 11:20:03 am
Chipping the meter is simple .The benefit to the Dep of Trans is taxis will only work when there is demand and not clog up the town with empty cars .Allow you a break mid shift but as soon as you start the clock you only have 11 working hours before the meter trips and will not allow you enter another fare .If reps keep telling the HSA and the NTA that drivers are working dangerous hours they will have to do something about it .
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 14, 2020, 11:26:47 am
"There are 26,371 valid taxi licences registered with the National Transport Authority. A spokesman said about 55 per cent of the suspended licences have been reactivated. He added that this figure “aligns” with anecdotal information suggesting which business is 30 to 50 per cent of normal"

Is this statement an admission from the NTA that taxi driving isn't viable for the rest of us who are still off?I'll print this out and bring it into the welfare when I'm called up in 2022..
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Shallowhal on August 14, 2020, 11:32:18 am
Incidentally, I bumped into a priest the other day who told me that if I didn't repent my sins, I'd go to hell.  I nodded and kept walking...  Do ya think he was telling the truth?

For you Watty....i believe he was....sure priests don't lie anyway......do they?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Theoneandonly on August 14, 2020, 03:29:30 pm
NOT ONE OF YOU COMMENTED ON HIS COMMENT .A SO CALLED INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVE STATED DRIVERS ARE WORKING BEYOND THE LEGAL LIMITS .IN SOME CASES HE STATED TO A NATIONAL NEWSPAPER THAT ..(At the moment, fellas are probably earning about €6 an hour. There would be exceptions, depending on what jobs you get. I’m aware of fellas being out there working 24-hour shifts, on the basis that they had to get money.”)24  HOUR SHIFTS  I wonder if he reported this dangerous practice to either the Gards or the taxithingey .Im sure Minister Ryan who would like to see taxis reduced will consider introducing chips for your meter to prevent you continuing to accept fares after you are on duty for 11 hours ,A sort of tachograph like they have in France .

Nowt new,  lads doing "gruelers" to pay off some bill or another, was made illegal at re-regulation but how do you police that shit?
There was always lads asleep in their cars on the ranks, probably still happens?
I remember one lad falling asleep with a punter in the back at the dropping well lights in Milltown, customer on the blower to the base saying she couldn't wake him up.
Same fucker was sent to jail they found 250 grand worth of coke in his wardrobe
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Justin Time on August 14, 2020, 03:36:25 pm
So basically taxi drivers cannot avail of this grant, given the conditions outlines above.

Safely measures is one,so I guess a screen costs anything from 250-300 euro can u just claim for that ?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Shallowhal on August 14, 2020, 03:56:29 pm
What we need to kickstart our business is customers,there'll be plenty of hoops to jump through for that bag o sand,if ye have the money to spend on what ye need just right it off against your tax liability.....maybe when FN have stopped massaging Anne's feet under the TAC table she might come out and offer me an extra year or two on my vehicle.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Lizzzy on August 14, 2020, 04:00:49 pm
So basically taxi drivers cannot avail of this grant, given the conditions outlines above.

Safely measures is one,so I guess a screen costs anything from 250-300 euro can u just claim for that ?
Any repairs that need doing ?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Shallowhal on August 14, 2020, 04:06:59 pm
I think me gutters need cleaning....might ask the oul wan across the road that's always eyeing me up if she needs her flue cleaned!!
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Lizzzy on August 14, 2020, 04:18:16 pm
..and your worktop needs replacing, it's swelling at the joint.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on August 14, 2020, 05:14:35 pm
should be gettin at least 10k compo.
holdin all the punters hostage for months.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 05:43:11 pm
Theoretically, your taxi has been parked up for 5 or 6 months so you'd want to make sure it's safe to drive.  You're concerned about the passengers, of course! 

That's the cost of a service and maybe new tyres if you could get the garage to write it on the receipt as a safety item?

Might be a bit smelly & mouldy just sitting on the driveway all that time as well.  A mini-valet?

€100-worth of masks etc?

You can claim for stuff since March 13th so you could add-in the FN screen (€50) as well?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 05:50:50 pm
NTA website - Friday evening.  As per usual

Post 1: COVID-19 Supports/Department of Business, Enterprise and Innovation (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/covid-19-supports-department-of-business-enterprise-and-innovation/)

Post 2: Enterprise Support Grant for businesses impacted by COVID-19 (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/enterprise-support-grant-for-businesses-impacted-by-covid-19/)

Both are just links to other Govt websites with no explanation or context.  As per usual  ::fds
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2020, 06:12:03 pm
If its the case that fuel is permissible as an incurred expense,and you can go back as far as 13 th march to submit your stuff,could you just submit 1k worth of fuel receipts going back to 13 th march to the present day without submitting anything else,just fuel receipts alone ?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 06:31:32 pm
Not sure that spending 1k on fuel in the 5 months since March counts as getting your business back on the road in Aug/Sept...  I reckon it's more about maybe getting screens in your shop or similar back in April and you can't afford to reopen now because you spent all your money on the screens?  Could be wrong though!
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 06:36:30 pm
Cash is gonna disappear largely for the next few months so you need every option to take payment...  Could you use the grant to get a new phone? 

Don't tell SW but I can do FN and sumup with my current phone but it doesn't have a NFC chip.  I think a NFC chips means someone can pay you by tapping the two phones together.  Anyone technical know the answer?  Could be useful to have a NFC-enabled phone to take payments?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: MK on August 14, 2020, 07:04:50 pm
I thought you need to hang on to your receipts for one year in case they want them. You aren’t supposed to send them right away


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Title: Re: money money money
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2020, 07:13:04 pm
Its still not very clear.are you supposed to send in receipts at all,or are you just to claim the 1k and keep the receipts just in case they want to see them at a later stage
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 07:18:16 pm
Dollyer its just a handfull of monkey nuts to get more self employed back to work .I doubt they will ask for receipts .The sting in the tail might be if you accept the queens shilling you cant go back unless you go on the dole proper .
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 07:25:54 pm
Would freight or commission be a business cost ?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 07:31:08 pm
From the application form:
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For all purchases funded by this COVID-19 Enterprise Support Grant, you must retain all receipts and invoices for one year from the date of payment of this grant for inspection by the department, should your application be selected for a verification check.

They really, really want us off the €350 so it sounds like they'll pay for anything vaguely biz-related..  I'd say you'd be unlucky to get picked to show your receipts?  There's something like 250,000 people still on the PUP, although not all are taxi drivers or a 'man with a van' types.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 07:34:11 pm
Would freight or commission be a business cost ?

From the application form:
Quote
Business consumables directly related to trading will not generally be accepted.
Devils Advocate: How was paying freight or commission in April getting you back to business in Sept?

Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 07:39:52 pm
Would freight or commission be a business cost ?

From the application form:
Quote
Business consumables directly related to trading will not generally be accepted.
Devils Advocate: How was paying freight or commission in April getting you back to business in Sept?


Read the qualifying Criteria  where does it say you must return in September . Will not GENERALLY be accepted .So White van man if he cant claim for fuel or tyres or lunchmoney ,what can he claim for .The Rodent told you he had been informed from a source and I am aware of the sourse that it wont be scrutinised if you are back in work and off the Dole .The small print is probably on the application form if you take this coin you cannot get any more Covid Coin so you must sign on for Unemployment if you need to go back on due to no work or further lockdownd .

I was up the Pheno one Day with Big Dommo and Billy the Bastard .Dommo had a packet of Rolo he offered one to Muriel Colgen she said Fuck off you and your Rolo just show us your mickey .She knew there was an alterior motive for Dommos offer of free sweeties .
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 07:51:55 pm
Have a think about this .Why are they offering this money to people who claimed Covid Coin and have already returned to work .Small print have you sold out your entitlement to any further Covid payments ?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2020, 08:10:05 pm
Dollyer its just a handfull of monkey nuts to get more self employed back to work .I doubt they will ask for receipts .The sting in the tail might be if you accept the queens shilling you cant go back unless you go on the dole proper .
im already back
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2020, 08:13:48 pm
I dont understand this thing that you have to keep your receipts for one year.my accountant told me I have to keep my receipts for at least the last 8 years,so its no problem to keep them for the next year
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 08:14:48 pm
Read the qualifying Criteria  where does it say you must return in September .
It doesn't.  But it's Fri night and there's 2 payments left in Aug & maybe 3 upto mid-Sept. 

They really, really want us off the PUP.  €1k is basically 3 weeks' PUP.  The next choke point is mid-Sept, about 4 weeks away.  It's a bribe.  I guess the subtext from the Govt is take whatever PUP you can get and upto €1k or they'll get strict on your ass in Mid-Sept. 

We had a good run with the free money but, realpolitik, our time is up.  The next people to get the free money is the 3 counties & the factories full of immigrants.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: watty on August 14, 2020, 08:16:25 pm
I dont understand this thing that you have to keep your receipts for one year.my accountant told me I have to keep my receipts for at least the last 8 years,so its no problem to keep them for the next year
7 or 8 years is for Revenue & tax.  This 1yr rule is for Social Welfare (or whatever they're called nowadays).
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2020, 08:22:14 pm
Ah I see.im of the view that the way that you just claim it,and dont send anything it.maybe im wrong
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 08:29:16 pm
Dont look at this as a taxi bobo its more than that a lot of self employed people claimed Covid Coin a lot of them are on more than they earned this is an insentive to get people off the payment before its reduced to 250 .As I said the devil might be in the detail just like the BTWEA once you took it you were locked out for years .There was another piece on 3 News today about drivers waiting 3 hours on a rank between jobs .No pubs ,no gigs,no sports=no taxi work .
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 08:31:55 pm
Dollyer its just a handfull of monkey nuts to get more self employed back to work .I doubt they will ask for receipts .The sting in the tail might be if you accept the queens shilling you cant go back unless you go on the dole proper .
im already back

Do you qualify as you transitioned onto a different payment .Now Big Dommos American Cousin was a benny he was in the US army he never asked or never told .So dont ask if you qualify just apply .
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Lizzzy on August 14, 2020, 09:04:41 pm
Ah I see.im of the view that the way that you just claim it,and dont send anything it.maybe im wrong

You probably have to send a copy of what you spent, I doubt if they will send everyone a thousand, blindly.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2020, 09:27:19 pm
Id say they might,but you better have the receipts to back it up just in case they want to see it later
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2020, 09:31:57 pm
Surely if rhey are talking about repairs fuel,etc most of us would have spent a grand since 13 th march ? So if we have those receipts for that,then whats the problem ?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Shallowhal on August 14, 2020, 09:35:59 pm
Surely if rhey are talking about repairs fuel,etc most of us would have spent a grand since 13 th march ? So if we have those receipts for that,then whats the problem ?

Are they backdating it?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Octavia1 on August 14, 2020, 10:43:33 pm
It's a con ...... ..theyll tell ya to sign the dotted line so ya cant claim anymore  the free money that all the junkies an wasters bein gettin since they left ( trown ) out of school ....
An theyll say ya only entitled to cople hundred an not the 1000 ...then the lockdown be back an yull go deeper and deeper into an alcoholic stooper cause the civil serpants conned yu cause yur takin tax payers money that pays ther wages and the rest is used to house an dole the  immigrants an the life boat is too heavy so youl be fuked out to swim in a sea of flu an plague and nobody on the streets except junkies goin get ther fix an refugees goin to order  ther bed in IKEA free for ther new free gaff whilst yu get a threatenin letter off yur mortgage bank to pay up or get the fuk out
....poor cnuts

Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 14, 2020, 11:28:37 pm
Talking to Big Dommo tonight in the Flats .He says do you think you could sign off get the grand then sign back on .I said no you got to read the small print .
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: TheDevilHimself on August 15, 2020, 02:54:03 am
It's a con ...... ..theyll tell ya to sign the dotted line so ya cant claim anymore  the free money that all the junkies an wasters bein gettin since they left ( trown ) out of school ....
An theyll say ya only entitled to cople hundred an not the 1000 ...then the lockdown be back an yull go deeper and deeper into an alcoholic stooper cause the civil serpants conned yu cause yur takin tax payers money that pays ther wages and the rest is used to house an dole the  immigrants an the life boat is too heavy so youl be fuked out to swim in a sea of flu an plague and nobody on the streets except junkies goin get ther fix an refugees goin to order  ther bed in IKEA free for ther new free gaff whilst yu get a threatenin letter off yur mortgage bank to pay up or get the fuk out
....poor cnuts
Thats my thinking too .. I think that the covid payments are on till next april  but with the new lockdown  starting in september  it would be cheaper to pay a grand  to get people off that covic coin .
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: U Wha on August 15, 2020, 08:53:49 am
NOT ONE OF YOU COMMENTED ON HIS COMMENT .A SO CALLED INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVE STATED DRIVERS ARE WORKING BEYOND THE LEGAL LIMITS .IN SOME CASES HE STATED TO A NATIONAL NEWSPAPER THAT ..(At the moment, fellas are probably earning about €6 an hour. There would be exceptions, depending on what jobs you get. I’m aware of fellas being out there working 24-hour shifts, on the basis that they had to get money.”)24  HOUR SHIFTS  I wonder if he reported this dangerous practice to either the Gards or the taxithingey .Im sure Minister Ryan who would like to see taxis reduced will consider introducing chips for your meter to prevent you continuing to accept fares after you are on duty for 11 hours ,A sort of tachograph like they have in France .
I was on a driver cpc module last montb. The trainer stated that there was EU legislation passed but not yet implemented that would see vans over 2.5 tonne and taxis requiring tachos. He said it might be a few years before it happens but it will happen.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: john m on August 15, 2020, 09:10:11 am
They tried to introduce traceability to the industry twice already Once with the new roofie that contained teck? and then with the proposed on board CCTV either could be linked to the meter and if you read the Taxi review it states CCTV fitted on ranks and cashless transactions .But the biggest danger is somebody who claims to represent 5000 drivers stating in an interview in the national press that Taxi drivers are working 12 hour daily shifts which is illegal and unsafe and then stating he is aware of drivers doing 24 hour shifts .Im sure if somebody from the HSA has read that article a memo will be landing in the Minister for transports in tray hiliting the illegal dangerous practice which the Taxi representative has brought to National attention .A massive Own Goal especially with a Green Minister for the Environment and a Green minister for transport .Empty taxies driving around or parking up competing against the more environmentally prudent Cycling Luas and bus .
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: U Wha on August 16, 2020, 01:28:09 pm
They tried to introduce traceability to the industry twice already Once with the new roofie that contained teck? and then with the proposed on board CCTV either could be linked to the meter and if you read the Taxi review it states CCTV fitted on ranks and cashless transactions .But the biggest danger is somebody who claims to represent 5000 drivers stating in an interview in the national press that Taxi drivers are working 12 hour daily shifts which is illegal and unsafe and then stating he is aware of drivers doing 24 hour shifts .Im sure if somebody from the HSA has read that article a memo will be landing in the Minister for transports in tray hiliting the illegal dangerous practice which the Taxi representative has brought to National attention .A massive Own Goal especially with a Green Minister for the Environment and a Green minister for transport .Empty taxies driving around or parking up competing against the more environmentally prudent Cycling Luas and bus .

I agree 100%.

The tacho legislation is coming from our EU masters. Primarily focused on ensuring fair competition across the EU.

Small trucks under 3.5 tonne from our eastern european neighbours scooting around the EU without having to apply the same rules as bigger.vehicles.

 Don't know the reasons for bringing taxis in under that umbrella of regulation but  they must think drivers that work excessive hours have sone advantage as well as being unsafe and illegal.

In my experience doing mad hours is hard to maintain. Tend to get quickly pissed off and burnt out. May happen the odd time if people need to pull cash in quickly.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Theoneandonly on August 16, 2020, 03:18:01 pm
They tried to introduce traceability to the industry twice already Once with the new roofie that contained teck? and then with the proposed on board CCTV either could be linked to the meter and if you read the Taxi review it states CCTV fitted on ranks and cashless transactions .But the biggest danger is somebody who claims to represent 5000 drivers stating in an interview in the national press that Taxi drivers are working 12 hour daily shifts which is illegal and unsafe and then stating he is aware of drivers doing 24 hour shifts .Im sure if somebody from the HSA has read that article a memo will be landing in the Minister for transports in tray hiliting the illegal dangerous practice which the Taxi representative has brought to National attention .A massive Own Goal especially with a Green Minister for the Environment and a Green minister for transport .Empty taxies driving around or parking up competing against the more environmentally prudent Cycling Luas and bus .

I agree 100%.

The tacho legislation is coming from our EU masters. Primarily focused on ensuring fair competition across the EU.

Small trucks under 3.5 tonne from our eastern european neighbours scooting around the EU without having to apply the same rules as bigger.vehicles.

 Don't know the reasons for bringing taxis in under that umbrella of regulation but  they must think drivers that work excessive hours have sone advantage as well as being unsafe and illegal.

In my experience doing mad hours is hard to maintain. Tend to get quickly pissed off and burnt out. May happen the odd time if people need to pull cash in quickly.

I've a mate living in holland that drives a large Mercedes Van around Europe for a living, the miles/hours he covers are scary
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: dalymount on August 16, 2020, 05:07:24 pm
If they add a persons 9 to 5 hours to whatever hours they do in the taxi ,could this be the end for double  jobbers assuming their other job also involves driving ?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Shallowhal on August 16, 2020, 05:28:23 pm
Maybe if they add all the hours a taxi is actually engaged....we could triple job!!
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: U Wha on August 16, 2020, 11:07:38 pm
If they add a persons 9 to 5 hours to whatever hours they do in the taxi ,could this be the end for double  jobbers assuming their other job also involves driving ?

Certainly part of the EU thinking on the subject.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: U Wha on August 16, 2020, 11:14:51 pm
"I've a mate living in holland that drives a large Mercedes Van around Europe for a living, the miles/hours he covers are scary"
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See.all.those polish reg vans with big boxes on back of them parked up at night in Dublin Port. Barely.under the weight limits that require tachos, haulage insurance and regulations. Cutting the arse out of hauliers obeying the rules.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Theoneandonly on August 17, 2020, 04:28:13 pm
If they add a persons 9 to 5 hours to whatever hours they do in the taxi ,could this be the end for double  jobbers assuming their other job also involves driving ?

Are there many double jobbers left?
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Bob Shillin on August 17, 2020, 05:07:12 pm
Probably not, just us OAPs.
Title: Re: money money money
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 18, 2020, 11:52:35 am
Are there many double jobbers left?

Millions, no more than that, thousands! What do you think all the teachers and airline pilots are doing?