Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: watty on August 29, 2020, 10:28:16 am
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Taxis may be banned from some bus lanes under Dublin City Council plans (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/taxis-may-be-banned-from-some-bus-lanes-under-dublin-city-council-plans-1.4341294) (Irish Times, 29 Aug 2020)
Taxis would be banned from some of Dublin’s bus lanes under plans Dublin City Council has submitted to Minister for Transport Eamon Ryan for consideration.
The local authority submitted a document, titled a “traffic wish list”, detailing 17 changes it was seeking when it met Mr Ryan last month. It outlines plans to “alter” bus lane regulations “to facilitate banning of taxis from certain bus lanes either completely or for specific periods” such as during rush hours.
It also suggests banning rickshaws and calls for “appropriate regulation to address genuine safety concerns” around electric scooters, although it acknowledges their potential contribution towards “sustainable travel”.
The council’s document also outlines a new system of “camera based enforcement” for red light running and the illegal use of bus lanes, which would be carried out by the National Transport Authority (NTA). It states that the Garda were enforcing red light running “using City Council equipment for a short period but have stopped doing it,” and that there “is no legislative provision for (the) use of cameras for enforcing bus lane restrictions”.
The meeting with Mr Ryan was attended by two Green Party councillors and senior council officials including chief executive Owen Keegan. Sources suggested the ideas proposed were largely suggested by the officials rather than councillors.
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You were all told they wanted this years ago its in the City traffic plan when a Fella stood up in the Transport Club and said we should try to get somebody onto DCC nobody was interested attacking Kitties Office was more important .At the time there was only 1 Green Councillor on DCC and Montique from Lab who managed to hijack the Transport Chairmanship on the Council .The time to fightback was 8 or 10 years ago YOU WERE TOLD .
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I remember commenting on this when the taxi act was Passed by the Dail .Where it said cameras on ranks this would be used to introduce traffic Cameras .They can fit cameras on Bus lanes to catch civilian cars and say they are to monitor taxis in line with the Taxi act, catching civilian law breakers would just be a by product the law would have to deal with .The taxi act has introduced into law that they can use cameras to monitor our trade and not compromise other peoples civil rights .I was always concerned the Irish Society for Civil Liberties never questioned fitting Cameras on ranks as it meant passengers were being observed .We must display a sticker warning we have CCTV on board but Rank Cameras ???.
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I remember commenting on this when the taxi act was Passed by the Dail .Where it said cameras on ranks this would be used to introduce traffic Cameras .They can fit cameras on Bus lanes to catch civilian cars and say they are to monitor taxis in line with the Taxi act, catching civilian law breakers would just be a by product the law would have to deal with .The taxi act has introduced into law that they can use cameras to monitor our trade and not compromise other peoples civil rights .I was always concerned the Irish Society for Civil Liberties never questioned fitting Cameras on ranks as it meant passengers were being observed .We must display a sticker warning we have CCTV on board but Rank Cameras ???.
The reason they want taxis off the lanes is because of the ammount of diesel shite heaps blokes are still diving ......them 2010 - 12 avensis that used to trow out big clouds of unburnt fuel in a cloud of smoke did the image no favours
And renters driving shite heaps spewing out blue smoke from worn out engines .....I'm not surprised that the cycle brigade are dead against taxis ....and they are absolutely correct ....wasnt the nct centres takin back handers from
Taxi renters putting tru high mileage shite heaps that wer spewing out shite and clouds of deadly gases......madness .....eamon ryan will allow fully electric taxis into the bus lanes ide say ....to force the rest of us to follow suit and buy all electric.....I doubt heel compromise with hybrid....its still burning petrol .....twill be a great opportunity for freenow to offer to supply ireland with full electric taxis for rental only and get rid of the owner diesel brigade with ther tracksuits , big bellies , and filthy antiques spewing out shite ....I wonder wud ther be a job for me in freenow ? Wer do I send me cv :)
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The reason they want taxis off the road is to promote bus ,luas and trains .They are spending to much coin subsidising them at the moment due to lack of users .simple as .You can bet there will be no restrictions on use of bus lanes by taxies between about 8pm and 6 am .When busses cant make coin.
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The reason they want taxis off the road is to promote bus ,luas and trains .They are spending to much coin subsidising them at the moment due to lack of users .simple as .You can bet there will be no restrictions on use of bus lanes by taxies between about 8pm and 6 am .When busses cant make coin.
It's another nail in our coffin all the same .....unless taxis become fully " environmentally friendly " in the greens eyes
The buses are all goin hybrid now .....I believe they givin trouble an cant get up hills without a heart attack....
But on paper they eamonn an his ilk a step in the right direction....apparently all the buses now in china are electric....
Ide say a diesels taxi operating in dublins days are numbered ...and I'm not talkin years away atall atall
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your probably right by 2020 all electric so dont be surprised if they issue guidance that renewals after say 2025 must be hybrids .
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Makes sense given the concerns expressed by taxi drivers and bosses about our suitability to the new normal. Maybe bus lanes should be open to all vehicles with a minimum of 4 occupants?
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Makes sense given the concerns expressed by taxi drivers and bosses about our suitability to the new normal. Maybe bus lanes should be open to all vehicles with a minimum of 4 occupants?
Would they have to be from the same family..or mix n match?
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Same commuter bubble, I guess... with a possible exception for taxis, hackneys and limousines/clapped out shiteboxes masquerading as limousines.
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The Green Party are more concerned about getting everyone on bikes,the removal of cars from the Phoenix Park and the pedestrianisation of streets, nothing else matters it seems.
The cycle lobby in recent times have become extremely vocal and are having a huge influence upon the Green nutters. ( ive no time for the greens, they live in la la land as far as im concerned.
Not so long ago I was in discussion with a member of the cycle lobby group (this was on social media).
He was advocating for the removal of cars on College Green and complete pedestrianisation of the area.
When I pointed out to him that it would mean the removal of the only 2 viable taxi ranks in the city and this would impact on their earnings, his reply was and I quote "I couldnt give a shit about taxi drivers".
I rest my case.
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I'd be able to get a limo/hack licence and get rid of the meter, roffie and sticker, the only reason I keep the taxi licence is for the bus lanes
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Bit of Insider trading ,if this was OH is a Limited Company the CEO would be asked to explain to the Board what the fuck he was up to and probably fired https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/dublin-city-council-chief-executive-apologises-for-secret-meeting-with-eamon-ryan-1015522.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/dublin-city-council-chief-executive-apologises-for-secret-meeting-with-eamon-ryan-1015522.html) .
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If ever you needed to know the shit on their shoe we really are....banning taxis from bus lanes during rush hour....says it all really,taxis don't impede buses...it's the other way round and given that the NTA are involved just taps the nail even further,quite happy to take fees and whatever else they profit from and give absolutely fukall back.
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Strike?
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They wouldnt have the balls tony,no more then they have the balls to tell their dispatcher masters to go fukk themselves
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Owen Keegan and Eamon Ryan, no friends of the Taxi, anyone who voted for the snot party and drives a taxi should be shot
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The Green Party are more concerned about getting everyone on bikes,the removal of cars from the Phoenix Park and the pedestrianisation of streets, nothing else matters it seems.
Makes sense. I see TfL are going the same way.... the new normal.
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Owen Keegan and Eamon Ryan, no friends of the Taxi, anyone who voted for the snot party and drives a taxi should be shot
+ wan.
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This bat flu caused it all ...
They greens used the social distancing crap to justify taking more space on the streets for cyclists and pedestrians......
Bit like the barbers putting 8 euro on the price of a haircut claiming ppe for a 5 cent pair gloves an a 10 cent mask ....the pub makin yu buy a 4 inch frozen pizza for 9 euro so yu can drink a pint
An the black facist supremists claiming racism so they cud all go out an get a new telly for nuttin .....
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"Bit like the barbers putting 8 euro on the price of a haircut claiming ppe for a 5 cent pair gloves an a 10 cent mask ....the pub makin yu buy a 4 inch frozen pizza for 9 euro so yu can drink a pint
An the black facist supremists claiming racism so they cud all go out an get a new telly for nuttin "
An' dosser taxi drivers claiming €1000 for petterril
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"Bit like the barbers putting 8 euro on the price of a haircut claiming ppe for a 5 cent pair gloves an a 10 cent mask ....the pub makin yu buy a 4 inch frozen pizza for 9 euro so yu can drink a pint
An the black facist supremists claiming racism so they cud all go out an get a new telly for nuttin "
An' dosser taxi drivers claiming €1000 for petterril
rofl
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Can we get the grand for diesel?
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Will the grant cover walking aids from the couch to the car?
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Press release on behalf of Taxi representative groups
National Private Hire & Taxi Association, (NPHTA)
Irish Taxi Drivers Federation (ITDF)
Taxi Alliance of Ireland, (TAI)
Tiomanai Tacsai na hEireann, (TTNH)
Taxi Drivers will protest on September15th 2020.
Taxi drivers have been over looked during this pandemic and will take to the streets to highlight the following issues:
1 A requirement to provide a Financial package to help drivers get back to work.
This should include a Temporary weekly subsidy similar to wage subsidy given to employees.Grants to assist in fixed costs estimated by National Transport Authority at €11,433 P/A and increased costs due to pandemic.
Licence renewals should be issued free of charge and interest free loans should be made available.
2 The retention and continued access to bus lanes and access to Quality Bus Corridors (QBC) is vitally important for drivers. business people do not want to sit in traffic. Dublin city council's lack of engagement with representative bodies regarding traffic public consultation and lack of planning for taxi access at major events needs to be addressed.
3 A moratorium on the issuing of taxi licences needs to be implemented until business levels start to approach Pre pandemic figures.
4 All vehicles in the fleet should be allowed a two year extension on age limit requirements. This would allow cars to stay in the fleet up to 12 years old.
5 The Taxi Advisory committee is not fit for purpose. This was highlighted through our appearance during our submission to the covid committee. Recently two representatives resigned from the Taxi Advisory committee when it became apparent the department of transport would not accept the advice given by the committee. The TAC needs to be disbanded for a national transport forum allowing all bodies who use the public roads a forum to input positively to the transport system of Ireland.
For further information you can contact
Jim Waldron NPHTA email Jimwaldron11@gmail.com
David Mcguinness TTNH email; ttnh2012@gmail.com
Gerard Macken TAI email Thetaxiallianceofireland@gmail.com
Joe Heron ITDF : email irishtaxifederation@gmail.com
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"business people do not want to sit in traffic"
Why would you write that!
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Even the erm woulda used a capital B!
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What happens to the lads with 15-year-old taxis will they get a two-year extension also?
My own thinking is there will be extensions on licenses anyway whether or not these muppets get involved in protests.
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What happens to the lads with 15-year-old taxis will they get a two-year extension also?
My own thinking is there will be extensions on licenses anyway whether or not these muppets get involved in protests.
There is a 9 year LAW as in LAW minister is not going to change that ,Why would he ?He wants dirty diesels off the road .
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They can do whatever they like.My hybrid heap is burning oil as it's still probably cleaner than any diesel built in the last ten years.Just so you know.
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What happens to the lads with 15-year-old taxis will they get a two-year extension also?
My own thinking is there will be extensions on licenses anyway whether or not these muppets get involved in protests.
There is a 9 year LAW as in LAW minister is not going to change that ,Why would he ?He wants dirty diesels off the road .
I spoke with my local TD and he said when the SI No 175 of 2020 was passed it gives the minister the power to extend it at his discretion,unfortunately Ryan being the fuk in charge....could be a big stumbling block.
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Maybe they'll just allow the hybrid vehicles another few years because of their perceived greeness.The mini wats already have a 15 year rule so they should be ok.
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The most important thing about this is not the content,but the fact that for once unity has come about with a joint statement from all 4 rep bodies.inmy virw that is more important then anything else,and it is the one thing the authorities were afraid of their shite would ever happen.
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There's no I in unity..
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Unity in the taxi business ??? rofl
It's all come about because ryan got the transport job .....thers a reason he was given that job .......and those that put him ther will try and make as much change as quickly as possible before the whole shithouse collapses and thers another election .....
Those that put him ther are anti taxi , they all riding bikes to the government buildings an taxis takin up ther cycle lanes ( bus lanes )....
Unfortunately its happened rite in the middle of this chinese caused flu and they wont giv 2 hoots about taxi drivers livelihoods .....but ide say thrrll be carnage ....taxis are the enemy and expendable and an obstacle of progress and damaging the planet an giving everyone cancer and they are sitting ducks .....
Calls for taking us out of bus lanes is only the start ....
The next move will be to attempt ban on city centre again before Christmas and then calls to ban diesels ......
Yur only hope is if yu drive a leaf .....
Tink I'll retire to the West with the owlone next door an buy a direct provision centre for ex taxi drivers .....
Poor knuts
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Its a good sign that the 4 rep orginisations met,and all signed up to this statement.lets give them a chance.we cant keep knocking them without giving them a chance.
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They can do whatever they like.My hybrid heap is burning oil as it's still probably cleaner than any diesel built in the last ten years.Just so you know.
I've seen a few gaymobiles spewing black smoke, didn't look at all environmental
Half of these shit heaps have some of the battery packs bypassed and are in dire need of a proper service, not some side of the road oil change
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Roy you may be confusing water vapour from the exhaust with smoke.It's nearly impossible to make a Prius do what a diesel does.It's just a low revving petrol engine on an atkinson cycle and a small battery pack with a powerful leccy motor.No magic involved.
There's nothing Toyota can do for my car that I can't do myself.Oil change is the same as any other engine.No special equipment.Small petrols are relatively clean.
You can't bypass the battery on them either.
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There a no nct emissions test on a pruis
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A ban on diesels into Dublin city centre wud be the next logical move from the cycling brigade councillors and eamon the vegetable .......and fair play to them .....
I tink there a few cities in Europe already banned diesels....strange as wasnt ireland first to ban smoking in pubs ? Wud seem that wer long overdue .....if I had a diesel ide be clenching me anus ....
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/13/eu-relaxation-of-diesel-emission-limits-was-illegal-court-rules (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/13/eu-relaxation-of-diesel-emission-limits-was-illegal-court-rules)
Wasnt ireland first to have gay marriage up the bum sex aswell as first to have smoking in pubs ban O0 ?
Jeeze ....I must get me ma to read the tarrots cards an find out ...but ide say its weeks away the way tings are goin wit eamon the cabbage an his mates at the helm
(https://i.postimg.cc/YLmq6LQ9/Captain-Pugwash.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YLmq6LQ9)
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Wondering what is a position of all unions regardless TRANSFERABILITY INTRODUCTION a specially for those who wish exit an industry. Can't be that you will leave with nothing !
Press release on behalf of Taxi representative groups
National Private Hire & Taxi Association, (NPHTA)
Irish Taxi Drivers Federation (ITDF)
Taxi Alliance of Ireland, (TAI)
Tiomanai Tacsai na hEireann, (TTNH)
Taxi Drivers will protest on September15th 2020.
Taxi drivers have been over looked during this pandemic and will take to the streets to highlight the following issues:
1 A requirement to provide a Financial package to help drivers get back to work.
This should include a Temporary weekly subsidy similar to wage subsidy given to employees.Grants to assist in fixed costs estimated by National Transport Authority at €11,433 P/A and increased costs due to pandemic.
Licence renewals should be issued free of charge and interest free loans should be made available.
2 The retention and continued access to bus lanes and access to Quality Bus Corridors (QBC) is vitally important for drivers. business people do not want to sit in traffic. Dublin city council's lack of engagement with representative bodies regarding traffic public consultation and lack of planning for taxi access at major events needs to be addressed.
3 A moratorium on the issuing of taxi licences needs to be implemented until business levels start to approach Pre pandemic figures.
4 All vehicles in the fleet should be allowed a two year extension on age limit requirements. This would allow cars to stay in the fleet up to 12 years old.
5 The Taxi Advisory committee is not fit for purpose. This was highlighted through our appearance during our submission to the covid committee. Recently two representatives resigned from the Taxi Advisory committee when it became apparent the department of transport would not accept the advice given by the committee. The TAC needs to be disbanded for a national transport forum allowing all bodies who use the public roads a forum to input positively to the transport system of Ireland.
For further information you can contact
Jim Waldron NPHTA email Jimwaldron11@gmail.com
David Mcguinness TTNH email; ttnh2012@gmail.com
Gerard Macken TAI email Thetaxiallianceofireland@gmail.com
Joe Heron ITDF : email irishtaxifederation@gmail.com
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Only thing I cant understand is,why they are only looking for a moratorium on new licence issues till things return to normality , ,they should be looking for a moratorium for a lot longer then that,the gact is THERE ARE STILL FAR TO MANY TAXIS
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Daly there are too many passing the geography test.The plate thing is a load of bollox.Toughen up the test and it wouldn't matter how many plates are issued.
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There's no I in unity..
I disagree.
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You probably should..
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Only thing I cant understand is,why they are only looking for a moratorium on new licence issues till things return to normality , ,they should be looking for a moratorium for a lot longer then that,the gact is THERE ARE STILL FAR TO MANY TAXIS
It's a flawed system I think.
There may be an over- supply of taxis on a national level, but if you drill down to a more regional outlook, there are probably areas in short supply while other areas have too many. To just go and chop a load of cars out of the national fleet doesn't correctly answer the question.
Maybe a moratorium on issuing new *driver* licences for certain counties that have too many drivers would be a more balanced approach.
So if Dublin for example has 12000 cars which is 3000 too many, just don't allow any more new applications for driver licences, and don't allow any existing drivers to sit the area knowledge test for Dublin.
Keep the numbers regularly under review until, through a natural decline in drivers from retirement or leaving the industry, a "critical mass" is reached (9000), then you are at the point where you can release new licences as required. Same for every area.
If a driver retires, instead of letting his vehicle licence die, allow it to be sold on or transferred for use in only a county that is under supplied at that time.
This one-fits-all approach doesn't seem like best practice to me, though maybe it's my thinking that is flawed!
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The method the NTA are using to regulate new drivers numbers has been to make the geography test easier(current required pass mark is 75% on the exam).They reduced it two years ago and nobody gave a shit because we were busy.Now they need to increase the pass mark again to 80% where it was.It would cost nothing and may even bring more geography test fees in.
I'm still amazed that there are drivers in the industry since before deregulation and they never seem to grasp this simple concept.
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Amazed is a strong word... lasting amazement is a strong sentiment. Forgive us for we know not what we do....
What do we want?
To stop dem blax working dangerous hours because there's no work.
When do we want it?
As soon as reasonably practicable following the implementation of a subsidy scheme aimed at getting more men back to chase no work.