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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: john m on November 18, 2020, 10:45:18 pm
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So call it what do you think will happen on 1st of December .What will or wont open .Looking at Tweedle dee and Tweedle Dum .I dont think the Government or Neff will want to make the call.I think we will get Local lockdowns with different levels for different Counties .Especially if you have a Government supporting Independent TD.So Donegal,Cavan,Monaghan will stay in lockdown level 5. Dublin will be a bastardised level Three and 3/8ths .They cant go level 3 and allow drinking in the rain so food pubs will be allowed open but restricted hours noon till nine and lockdown and empty by 10 and Wet pubs open like aeroplanes sitting down only .Outside Dublin level two carry on but dont act the bollox .We might get a a weird type of Christmas in Dublin with Shopping Centers all open 24 hours and some of the bigger City center shops staying open all night but you will need to book on line or something to shop after normal trading hours .So there should be a bit of work available but dont think its going to be great .Drivers outside Dublin might do OK.
I was talking to my mate from Templebar and he says Guinness dont have the Stock of Barrells available to restock all the Pubs .He recons that there might be a bit of lobbying by brewers not to reopen pubs unless they are certain to remain open as they do not want to be put in a position of telling some Publicans they dont have the stock to supply them and dont want to ramp up production only to be left with perishable product that nobody wants .
Whats your best guess what are you planning for ?
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IT'S ALL A LOADA BOLLOCKS.
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IT'S ALL A LOADA BOLLOCKS.
I dont dissagree Doc but I need to get an earner to pay car loan and insurance for January .Im ok until January .If things dont improve then its park up cancel the insurance and dont pay the car loan and hope with thousands of others defaulting on car loan they wont repossess it before we get a vaccine .Thats the bones of my business plan .
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Sure they have a vaccine,its a question of when we get it
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Sure they have a vaccine,its a question of when we get it
We wont be getting it before December .
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With my 5 underlying conditions,I reckon I'll be up first
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I'm not taking and vaccines
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December will see limited reopening
Mid jan another lockdown
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OK so assuming the vaccine lands, whats the story.
Do you have to pay for it ?
What criteria will be used to dish it Out ?
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I hear it's around 15 sterling to buy
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Maybe FN can represent their employee drivers and get them the vaccine first.....they need their drivers ready when it all kicks off!!
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Bit severe Occi most Taxi drivers are grafters if you dont go out you dont earn .Why they wont sell off the industry or let Uber or Free Now get their mits on it is simple .It can only truly work if it is chaotic and reactionary .If it was regularized the turn over of staff would be huge .You can see it here lads that were working sixty or seventy hours a week now complaining they cant get coin while others are sofa surfing and surviving .This industry only works because of the diversity of workers ,we are reactionary All Ireland Day every driver is at his steering wheel big Gig we are there late night Discotechs and Sheebeens throwing out time the Brothers of the wheel are there and its all paid for out of our own pockers no subsidies like CIE.or Dublin Bus we the taxi drivers pay to play .A lot of the pain we are going through now was caused by ourselves .Thick ignorant no good wasters parading as some sort of industry reps fucked it up for the few who were getting a living by asking for nothing out of nothing .Let us go back to work for nothing The Minister said fire away earn a ton and twenty a week if you can and keep your Covid Coin .Result is drivers competing with drivers for non existing work .
Like I said we are a reactionary force fire fighters ,Transport Storm Troopers our role is to respond to demand UB40 playing Malahide we will be there Lester Piggott at Leopardstown we will be there Madonna at the O2 we will be there .Our reps dont understand that they think there should be less of us so we can make more money and thats the way they present their case and the Government always ignore them because what the Government want is what they have A reactionary force of Storm Troopers who will react to demand From Full time Sixty hour lads to double jobbers dosent matter to the NTA who does the job as long as it gets done .Reps should of been looking for more money for drivers to keep us off the road not no money to get us back on the Road .If I had of been asked I would of said Ask the Government for a few grand per driver to help maintain our vehicles and keep them Insured during this Pandemic so we will be available to Storm Troop or React should we be needed in the event that some of the other Nationally available transport providers were impacted by an out break of Covid among their staff and had to withdraw their service .The NTA have designed the Taxi Industry to be reactionary so ask them to pay for it . We put more drivers back on the road for nothing only the opportunity to try to earn a ton and twenty .Its only when taxi drivers realize we are only seasonal workers who can only make money off of other peoples events like concerts ,Sports events ,Porter Shops ,Theater work or other Medical shows .Most of our work is reactionary we react to demand created by others we as an industry create no demand have little or no power to create demand .The stupidity of offering half price fares to people who need a taxi anyway dosent create demand it just reduced wages .
Until The Lads from the Flats are back going to raves .Brona and Helen are back in Coppers all the Gay lads are going to see Kylie in the Point Seamus and Sean are going to Croker Old tommy is on the lash in the local .Its their party and we can cry if we want to cry if we want to but until everybody else returns to normal there is just not enough work to go round and Priority, stars ,golden boy status,discounts, stickers on bonnetts wont make a bit of difference .Time for lads to Paint Pictures ,Write Stories get to know your kids and yourself or try get a different job because this industry will be one of the last to recover because we only react to other peoples events .
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I dont rhink the reps want less of us as you say John,sure as rat pointed out mqny times the reps keep telling the Government drivers have left in their droves,inviting them to replenish the stock.that hardly seems like they want less of us
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I dont rhink the reps want less of us as you say John,sure as rat pointed out mqny times the reps keep telling the Government drivers have left in their droves,inviting them to replenish the stock.that hardly seems like they want less of us
They want more drivers Dollyer not more vehicles .They are thinking back to the Cozy days thinking they might put another driver on their Nan Van or wanked out saloon and probably do the drivers books and look after the insurance .Or older lads who dont want to live in the car can find a cosy .You will notice they always refer to the reduction in the number of Drivers not Vehicles .
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Holohan already sounding like December 1st wont be the end of lockdown.....Packed car parks, busy office canteens and people turning up for work with Covid-19 symptoms are among signs of how the nation has let standards slip in recent weeks and stalled progress in driving down the virus, it emerged last night.
Chief medical officer Dr Tony Holohan said after a major reduction of cases in the first phase of lockdown, we are now “stuck” at more than 400 new cases per day and a week of the lockdown has been” lost” as a result.
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BATTLE OF THE EGOS .WHO WINS THE GOVERMENT OR THE DOCTORS .Beginning to look like lockdown wont end on December 1st .Will we ever get back to normal ?....THU, 19 NOV, 2020 - 22:15
PAUL HOSFORD POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT
Workers are still attending workplaces while symptomatic with Covid-19, the Deputy chief medical officer has said.
Dr Ronan Glynn said the behaviour was one example of why Ireland's rate of new cases remained high as the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet) yesterday announced four new deaths and 429 cases of the virus.
"As we can see from the data, the level of traffic, the level of attendance at workplaces is higher than we would have expected, given the level of measures that are in place.
"The key message is that a proportion of cases are arising in workplace settings where people who have attended work while symptomatic.
"That is a message that hasn't gotten across. It's never acceptable, but this year particularly if people have symptoms, they should not be taking the chance."
Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan said that there was a "role for employers to play" in ensuring people do not come to work while sick, saying there was a need for "leadership".
"Basic public health advice at the moment is for people to stay at home, except in certain situations, like leaving the home for the purpose of essential work. Working from home — I think this message really hasn't gotten through.
"You look at the traffic and you look at what's going on in workplaces, people will tell you stories that carparks are full, canteens are full in workplaces — some people are really not listening to this message. And they're meeting up unnecessarily.
"It's absolutely clearly understood that not everybody is in a workplace situation where they can work from home, but clearly many, many people who are in situations where they can work from home are choosing to come into the workplace and meet up and have engagements. They're creating transmission opportunities and that's just one example."
With just 12 days until Ireland's Level 5 restrictions are due to end, Dr Holohan said that a "doubling down of the national effort" was needed to bring the figure down. Nphet has said that it wants to be below 100 cases by December 1.
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Dr Holohan said that he was "still hopeful" that this could be achieved, despite stagnation in a decline in cases over recent days.
Professor Philip Nolan, chair of the Nphet Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group saying that a small change in social habits could bring the R number down to below 0.5 to allow the country have flexibility when it comes to the easing of restrictions.
Meanwhile, Health Minister Stephen Donnelly told the Dáil that the second wave of the virus has been 90% less fatal than the first.
He paid tribute to the country's healthcare workers for the "extraordinary improvement" in case fatalities.
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Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly has told the Dáil there has been a "more than 90% reduction in fatalities" in the second wave of Covid-19 compared to the first wave.
He was speaking during a debate on the report of the Special Committee on Covid-19 Response.
What the fuck is going on .Back in Lockdown 1 attack of the Cold if they said they had two spoon fulls of cough medicine and a big blue pill you could take and it would reduce the fatality rate by 90% we would of all been celebrating .Instead now with 90% less death rate we close the whole kip down .
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AND JUST WHEN YOU THINK YOU KNOW STUPIT Northern Ireland will reopen cafés and hair salons tomorrow - and then close them a week later - under a new proposal agreed tonight.
The Stormont Executive has decided to impose a strict two week "circuit breaker" from Friday, 27 November.
Non-essential retail, which was allowed to stay open during current restrictions introduced five weeks ago, will close at that time.
HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO RUN A BUSINESS
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Just listening to a debate not really a debate a diatribe from some doctor type telling a Minister he has no right to govern the country if it means they overide his advice .The cunt says to the minister "Are you ready to accept responsibility for any deaths "Who the fuck do these cunts think they are .Out walking with our kid this morning in the Memorial Park not one person wearing a mask passed about a dozen taxies on the road not one driver wearing a mask .This battle is lost Covid Fatigue has set in.Time for the Government to thank NEFED for all their advice and hand them their P60 .
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Most taxis have screens so no mask needed.
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Just listening to a debate not really a debate a diatribe from some doctor type telling a Minister he has no right to govern the country if it means they overide his advice .The cunt says to the minister "Are you ready to accept responsibility for any deaths "Who the fuck do these cunts think they are .Out walking with our kid this morning in the Memorial Park not one person wearing a mask passed about a dozen taxies on the road not one driver wearing a mask .This battle is lost Covid Fatigue has set in.Time for the Government to thank NEFED for all their advice and hand them their P60 .
dont think a mask is mandatory outdoors John
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Just listening to a debate not really a debate a diatribe from some doctor type telling a Minister he has no right to govern the country if it means they overide his advice .The cunt says to the minister "Are you ready to accept responsibility for any deaths "Who the fuck do these cunts think they are .Out walking with our kid this morning in the Memorial Park not one person wearing a mask passed about a dozen taxies on the road not one driver wearing a mask .This battle is lost Covid Fatigue has set in.Time for the Government to thank NEFED for all their advice and hand them their P60 .
dont think a mask is mandatory outdoors John
They are not but nobody has opted to wear one .We have been told for months Mask .Apart and wash .Nobody was observing the " meter rule including meself .I think with Doctors now looked upon as Warlocks with mystical Powers doing daily sound bites the Government have lost control .You can gargle in the street no you cant yes you can .Eating a Mc Donlads in a car is good .Holohan and his mates are now running the country from their Dail in RTE and Virgin Media .Trump complains that Biden robbed the election the Doctors have performed a Coup they are making the moves not the Government .Something is going to snap and soon .
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But sure dp ya not remember the time the country was run by the maynooth collage,and the GAA ?
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To be fair, the G double A have been fantastic during the pandemic organising and assisting volunteers to make sure vulnerable members of society are looked after... and they even managed to organise a few games of Hurley and gaylick football.
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In a nutshell......nòoooo way Hose
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For those of you actually interested in your business .As I told you all months ago Temple Bar traders were ADVISED no pub opening until Feb next year .The Man who hires casual labour tells me NO PADDY DAYS PARADE in March next year .Behind the scenes discussion's in line with the old Tax Year of April 6th .Covid coin and subsidies will me withdrawn with recipients who cannot return to work having to apply for unemployment Benefit or Assistance .
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For those of you actually interested in your business .As I told you all months ago Temple Bar traders were ADVISED no pub opening until Feb next year .The Man who hires casual labour tells me NO PADDYS DAY PARADE in March next year .Behind the scenes discussion's in line with the old Tax Year of April 6th .Covid coin and subsidies will me withdrawn with recipients who cannot return to work having to apply for unemployment Benefit or Assistance .
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I took your advice jonny and got a real job .
Muney is ok (€13 an hr)3/4 nite shifts a week .The mondie ie passed out til next july/ psv insurance is paid up til april .Might pull the plug on it after that as i cant see any worth while return in the next 24 months .Renewed psv last month ;so good for an other 5 yrs .
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I took your advice jonny and got a real job .
Muney is ok (€13 an hr)3/4 nite shifts a week .The mondie ie passed out til next july/ psv insurance is paid up til april .Might pull the plug on it after that as i cant see any worth while return in the next 24 months .Renewed psv last month ;so good for an other 5 yrs .
I had an accident last year fractured my Kneecap so am virtually unemployable unless I get a driving job or some sort of sitting down job .Cant compete with younger lads for manual work .If I had a Young Family or big mortgage I definitly would look for a paye job and taxi part time .
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Do you not have to give back your covid payment if you have a job?
I finally got mine returned to 300 a week.Hard to imagine giving it back to earn a tenner an hour in a normal job.
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There is a Grant if you are self Employed and return to SELF EMPLOYMENT .If you return to SELF EMPLOYMENT then decide to go PAYE you have satisfied the requirement as SELF EMPLOYED to get the grant join the dots .
Merc I would take minimum wage the Covid Coin wont last then we will be competing against younger men for minimum wage jobs .If I could get a job today or tomorrow for Minimum wage I would take it .You can always give it up but you might not always be able to get one .Remember when the Covid Coin ends we have two choices go driving or close up shop and apply for the Dole and if your hen is working and based on this years revenue means tested benifits or Assistance might not make three figures .
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You're not eligible for the grant unless you give up your payment last I heard.
The Covid payments won't stop until they stop paralysing certain parts of the economy.It could easily go on until 2022 in some form until the vaccine arrives.
I'm getting ready for my return in March/April/May..who knows.
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Yes you must give up the Covid so Lets say a Licenced SELF EMPLOYED driver decided to take up a PAYE job .He first informs whoever that he is returning to SELF EMPLOYMENT .Now he has satisfied the Condition to apply for the Grant .What he does after that is his own business even if he takes up a PAYE job .
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I dunno there's some sort of covid Christmas bonus getting paid according to the news lastnight.The grant is worth a grand of vouched expenses that will probably be checked at some point.
Covid money between today and April is worth a few grand.
You could get a minimum wage job today and still be fecked on the scrapheap when the busy Christmas period is over.Nothing is guaranteed except the covid money.
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I dunno there's some sort of covid Christmas bonus getting paid according to the news lastnight.The grant is worth a grand of vouched expenses that will probably be checked at some point.
Covid money between today and April is worth a few grand.
You could get a minimum wage job today and still be fecked on the scrapheap when the busy Christmas period is over.Nothing is guaranteed except the covid money.
Christmas bonus I think its next week .The Covid Coin is only guarenteed for another few months .For anybody that hasent worked at their trade or profession for years its a minefield trying to get resertified for certain work .I had a boilermakers ticket years ago that allowed me do certain welding its now invalid and it would cost thousands to get re certified .I have a Fork Lift licence the outdoor licence is still valid but I cant work indoors unless I retake the Forklift licence .You cant go on site without a safety pass and a ticket for every tool you operate .Two pals are plasterers they were dry dashing a house recently and some head from Health and safety driving by stopped and told them to drop the scaffold as it was not erected by a qualified person .As I said for me personally I would give up the Covid Coin in return for a 9 to 5 minimum wage job but thats just me .Not a lot of demand for overweight unfit old men .If there is extra customs checks after Brexit then there might be a bit more courier work from customs clearance depots .
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As I said for me personally I would give up the Covid Coin in return for a 9 to 5 minimum wage job but thats just me .Not a lot of demand for overweight unfit old men .If there is extra customs checks after Brexit then there might be a bit more courier work from customs clearance depots .
I have the perfect job for ya John! Security Guard.. perfectly suited to semi incapacitated men over 50 .
Not a big effort to apply for the PSA Security Licence. Costs €240 to do the static guarding course. Loads of trainers running online courses every week.
Once you pass and you will pass cos there is no real test, just monkey see, monkey do. The training provider will give you a letter to confirm you have completed the training, send that to the PSA with your completed application and €90 fee.
Takes a couple of weeks to process as Garda vetting involved. You should have no issue there if you have a valid SPSV driver licence.
In the mean time apply to security companies and they can contact the PSA directly and get a cover letter which allows you to work while waiting for the badge to be issued.
The security company will need to check you employment history for last 5 years, not an issue just need your book keeper or letter from revenue or social to say you have been self employed for whatever period of time.
Depending on the security company and even within companies depending on the site the pay rate is €12 to €13 per hour. The better companies pay extra on Sundays and a set allowance for night shifts.
I did just that because I wasn't getting enough consistent work with the truck driving agency and even if I was the extra couple of euro per hour wasn't worth it with all the responsibility of driving a truck and other aggravation.
Now as I type this I am sitting in a nice comfortable office block, drinking tea, gazing at the cameras while being paid €160 gross for a 12 hour night shift. Rolling on a 3, 4, 3, 4 shifts over 4 weeks. It averages out at a 42 hour week and there is overtime available if I am flexible about moving around sites.
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I will continue to keep the taxi for the time being and do it part time when things pickup next year.
Plenty of work out there and not as bad as minimum wage, plenty of hours if you want or need them. No aggravation involved, simply there for insurance reasons and a deterrent. They actually tell you not to get involved, be safe and call the guards.
Let me know if you decide to go down that road because I get free BoBo for referring somebody to the company.
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Bit severe Occi most Taxi drivers are grafters if you dont go out you dont earn .Why they wont sell off the industry or let Uber or Free Now get their mits on it is simple .It can only truly work if it is chaotic and reactionary .If it was regularized the turn over of staff would be huge .You can see it here lads that were working sixty or seventy hours a week now complaining they cant get coin while others are sofa surfing and surviving .This industry only works because of the diversity of workers ,we are reactionary All Ireland Day every driver is at his steering wheel big Gig we are there late night Discotechs and Sheebeens throwing out time the Brothers of the wheel are there and its all paid for out of our own pockers no subsidies like CIE.or Dublin Bus we the taxi drivers pay to play .A lot of the pain we are going through now was caused by ourselves .Thick ignorant no good wasters parading as some sort of industry reps fucked it up for the few who were getting a living by asking for nothing out of nothing .Let us go back to work for nothing The Minister said fire away earn a ton and twenty a week if you can and keep your Covid Coin .Result is drivers competing with drivers for non existing work .
Like I said we are a reactionary force fire fighters ,Transport Storm Troopers our role is to respond to demand UB40 playing Malahide we will be there Lester Piggott at Leopardstown we will be there Madonna at the O2 we will be there .Our reps dont understand that they think there should be less of us so we can make more money and thats the way they present their case and the Government always ignore them because what the Government want is what they have A reactionary force of Storm Troopers who will react to demand From Full time Sixty hour lads to double jobbers dosent matter to the NTA who does the job as long as it gets done .Reps should of been looking for more money for drivers to keep us off the road not no money to get us back on the Road .If I had of been asked I would of said Ask the Government for a few grand per driver to help maintain our vehicles and keep them Insured during this Pandemic so we will be available to Storm Troop or React should we be needed in the event that some of the other Nationally available transport providers were impacted by an out break of Covid among their staff and had to withdraw their service .The NTA have designed the Taxi Industry to be reactionary so ask them to pay for it . We put more drivers back on the road for nothing only the opportunity to try to earn a ton and twenty .Its only when taxi drivers realize we are only seasonal workers who can only make money off of other peoples events like concerts ,Sports events ,Porter Shops ,Theater work or other Medical shows .Most of our work is reactionary we react to demand created by others we as an industry create no demand have little or no power to create demand .The stupidity of offering half price fares to people who need a taxi anyway dosent create demand it just reduced wages .
Until The Lads from the Flats are back going to raves .Brona and Helen are back in Coppers all the Gay lads are going to see Kylie in the Point Seamus and Sean are going to Croker Old tommy is on the lash in the local .Its their party and we can cry if we want to cry if we want to but until everybody else returns to normal there is just not enough work to go round and Priority, stars ,golden boy status,discounts, stickers on bonnetts wont make a bit of difference .Time for lads to Paint Pictures ,Write Stories get to know your kids and yourself or try get a different job because this industry will be one of the last to recover because we only react to other peoples events .
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Anybody Know what is or isint opening ?Are the Wet pubs outside of Dublin reopening ?are Foody pubs and Restaurants opening or does that depend on numbers ?
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Anybody Know what is or isint opening ?Are the Wet pubs outside of Dublin reopening ?are Foody pubs and Restaurants opening or does that depend on numbers ?
I doubt anyone knows 100% yet
John calm down relax theres still a bit of work around the gravy boats half full and still pup
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I have relations in Tipp and he thinks if they go back to tier 3 then Rural wet pubs will be allowed reopen I dont think he is right .When is tier three not tier three ?when its tier three .Could they not just say if you want to go for a gargle bring your own dinner and there is a 9 euro cover charge to eat just like they charge Corkage if you bring your own wine .Some amount of pubs wont reopen the cost of staying closed will wipe them out .
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Bring ur own dinner lol does that stop covid
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They're getting up to 5k a week for staying closed.I'd say many publicans don't want to bother opening.They might be pretending that they wanna work but I doubt they give a fuk at this stage.Bit like myself.
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Wait till next yr see what happens when vaccines out
And everyone gets sick from it
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Bring ur own dinner lol does that stop covid
Dont see why not buying one out of a dirty kitchen in a pub that was handled by the delivery driver ,the chef ,the waitress .Plate washed by the fella doing the cellar or cleaning the pissers seems ok so something you cooked yourself must be healthier and cleaner .The 9 euro cover charge could go into a kitty to help the publican pay for the Christmas decorations
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They're getting up to 5k a week for staying closed.I'd say many publicans don't want to bother opening.They might be pretending that they wanna work but I doubt they give a fuk at this stage.Bit like myself.
Max of 5K based on your last years VAT returns .I heard through the Grapevine Diageo were lobbying for wet pubs to remain closed as they do not have enough stock to go round and dont want to be put in a position of choosing which customers get stock .
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They're getting up to 5k a week for staying closed.I'd say many publicans don't want to bother opening.They might be pretending that they wanna work but I doubt they give a fuk at this stage.Bit like myself.
Max of 5K based on your last years VAT returns .I heard through the Grapevine Diageo were lobbying for wet pubs to remain closed as they do not have enough stock to go round and dont want to be put in a position of choosing which customers get stock .
Did Diageo not die yesterday?
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They're getting up to 5k a week for staying closed.I'd say many publicans don't want to bother opening.They might be pretending that they wanna work but I doubt they give a fuk at this stage.Bit like myself.
Max of 5K based on your last years VAT returns .I heard through the Grapevine Diageo were lobbying for wet pubs to remain closed as they do not have enough stock to go round and dont want to be put in a position of choosing which customers get stock .
Did Diageo not die yesterday?
No , he died on Wednesday 25th Nov 2020, Auld Georgie Best died 15 years ago to that day
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The two best fooball players ever....can you imagine after snorting a big bag of coke ....or having 15 gin and Besty tonics and still be able to see the goal...let alone..scoring...flukin geniousis !!!
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Snooker and darts players used to take drugs to slow down their heart rate. Maybe the opposite applies to footballers?
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Snooker and darts players used to take drugs to slow down their heart rate. Maybe the opposite applies to footballers?
Do you remember Bill Werbeniuk, 11 pints to steady himself before match?
Or Ray Reading and John Spencer on beta blockers.
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I'd say Alex Higgins is up there having a gargle with them as well
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I'd say Alex Higgins is up there having a gargle with them as well
I'd say Higgins is hiding the gargle from everyone!!