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Title: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Belker on December 03, 2020, 01:27:16 am
I deliberately left out the 'Maybe' option because when the vaccine becomes available then every one will have to make a choice.
The 'Change vote' option is available to all.

If you are voting then please leave a short note about why (not necessarily required).
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Belker on December 03, 2020, 01:34:40 am
I voted Yes because I am shite sick of this virus and anything that will take it away is a good thing.
If it all goes pear shaped and I or others die because of the vaccine, then So be it.

We are not Living anymore, we are just existing !
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Octavia1 on December 03, 2020, 02:13:53 am
U probably wont die of the vaccine ken ...but I smell a rat that its made so quick .....apparently it's a new approach to vaccines....and untested ......
I'm keepin the fuk away from it ...think  about it ...this vaccine
Is made in America.......
The earths asylum ...ther not injectin me with that shite .....
Madness
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Belker on December 03, 2020, 02:34:12 am
Look on the bright side, it's the Brits who are the guinea pigs.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 03, 2020, 06:07:03 am
No and Yes .I would take the traditional vaccine where they inject a small dose so you build up immunity but I would not take the new Biological ones .They work bit like if you imagine the virus is covered in glue they attack the glue make it non sticky so the virus cannot cling on to host sells but we dont know what part of the glue it will neutralize and if we get other illnesses like cancer will the part of the glue they neutralized be needed so you can absorb new medicines .Some new vaccines are genetic engineering .The Brits might be the GuineaPigs but it might be years down the road before any damage like the inability to absorb other Medicines or Vaccines is identified .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 03, 2020, 07:12:36 am
I dont know if I would take it or not.I dont like the fact thats its in two parts two injections.it reminds me a bit like electrical cars,they are only really in their infantcy
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 03, 2020, 07:41:22 am
I dont know if I would take it or not.I dont like the fact thats its in two parts two injections.it reminds me a bit like electrical cars,they are only really in their infantcy

Since Jenner invented the Smallpox Vaccine humans have always been vaccinated with a minute dose of whatever to build up immunity .These new Vaccines dont use the offending virus they use something else that recodes your cells to fight the Spike Proteins ie the Glue that binds the virus to the host cells as a virus does not have its own cells ..Here is my biggest Red Flag apart from Donny T being a Fucktard the Americans are the most advanced country on earth by a long way they also have the largest death rate per head in the World from covid they also have a legal system that fines the guilty unlike our government going to indemnify drug Companies .So if this process is totally safe why have the Americans not adopted it yet .Remember Scientists told us Smoking was safe .Guinness Alcohol was good for you Sugar was safe and Diesel was better than petrol for the atmosphere .The  British vaccine that gives you a tiny dose of the actual virus .Thats the one I would prefer and will wait on .Worst can happen is you get the virus from it but who knows what the worst effect of the unknown vaccines are .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: mercenary for hire on December 03, 2020, 08:43:27 am
When Freenow announce a special category of driver called Vaccine elite driver extra medals or some bollox you'll all be taking the vaccine.They wont be seen to be doing nothing or tolerating drivers who don't want it.They're already telling you to get a screen and wear mask.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Octavia1 on December 03, 2020, 09:50:17 am
When Freenow announce a special category of driver called Vaccine elite driver extra medals or some bollox you'll all be taking the vaccine.They wont be seen to be doing nothing or tolerating drivers who don't want it.They're already telling you to get a screen and wear mask.

I bet you a tenner theyll have cople nurses an a big black doctor fella in a white coat  in mount st just so it looks PC vaccinating the dopes .....licky lackys get it first and gett a lollipop an goodie bag with a  little rubber virus wit a sad face yu stick on the end of yur biro an it tastes of strawberries  an beer mats an a voucher for 4 star petrol for a fiver an an airfreshner wit anti bacterial dettol smell an a sticker they can stick on the side of the car sayin in big letters "  INNOCULATED DRIVER.... FOR YOUR SAFETY " and the  ordinary scum will just get  a plaster wer they got injected
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: watty on December 03, 2020, 09:52:29 am
@JohnM - the British have jumped the gun a little bit.  They're using EU law (irony alert) to give emergency local authorization to one single batch of the vaccine.  The authorization only lasts a month, I think.  The EU and Americans will give the vaccine(s) full market authorization and they can be sold year-round.  Americans are meeting Dec 12th (?) and the EU the end of Dec.

I'll take the vaccine but I reckon I'll be way down the list.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 03, 2020, 11:20:29 am
Britains Doc Houlihan on the telly this morning was asked .How long will the vax last is it going to be one hit or an annual hit ?He said he dosent know .Then asked the stuff comes in packages containing a certain amount of doses that cant be split into smaller packages .So how will they be able to get the stuff to Nursing homes if there are less residents than the minimum amount of doses per package ?Will they waste the rest that they dont use after they open the pack .The English Doc Houlihan said he didnt know .Then he was asked due to social distancing the amount of patients available to que for the Vax will be restricted , it will require a huge amount of inoculation centers how many and how long will it take to vax the whole population and will it be done by Doctors or Nurses .He said he didnt know .Seems like Boris was trying to divert attention from something else by announcing a Vaccine without any delivery programme in place .

 The NHS and HSE here are short of Doctors and nurses the logistics of distributing this stuff is going to be huge .Local lockdowns and restrictions will prevent huge Injection centers in Sports grounds or shopping centers as the government wont want infected beasts roaming the country infecting each other .I dont think they thought this thing through another problem is the Vax only has a short shelf life after manufacture from machine to needle to arm before its out of date .Even if all the doses we require were available tomorrow the ability to inoculate everybody does not exist and will take longer to develope than the actual vaccine .

For the shrewd investor with a trading app .Invest in the companies that make syringes every dose will require at least two .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on December 03, 2020, 11:31:18 am
It's all a loada bollocks.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Taxi driver42 on December 03, 2020, 11:52:07 am
People that took SARS one developed problem ltr
I'm not being a Guinea pig no
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Bob Shillin on December 03, 2020, 02:12:09 pm
Britains Doc Houlihan on the telly this morning was asked .How long will the vax last is it going to be one hit or an annual hit ?He said he dosent know .Then asked the stuff comes in packages containing a certain amount of doses that cant be split into smaller packages .So how will they be able to get the stuff to Nursing homes if there are less residents than the minimum amount of doses per package ?Will they waste the rest that they dont use after they open the pack .The English Doc Houlihan said he didnt know .Then he was asked due to social distancing the amount of patients available to que for the Vax will be restricted , it will require a huge amount of inoculation centers how many and how long will it take to vax the whole population and will it be done by Doctors or Nurses .He said he didnt know .Seems like Boris was trying to divert attention from something else by announcing a Vaccine without any delivery programme in place .

 The NHS and HSE here are short of Doctors and nurses the logistics of distributing this stuff is going to be huge .Local lockdowns and restrictions will prevent huge Injection centers in Sports grounds or shopping centers as the government wont want infected beasts roaming the country infecting each other .I dont think they thought this thing through another problem is the Vax only has a short shelf life after manufacture from machine to needle to arm before its out of date .Even if all the doses we require were available tomorrow the ability to inoculate everybody does not exist and will take longer to develope than the actual vaccine .

For the shrewd investor with a trading app .Invest in the companies that make syringes every dose will require at least two .
% doses per pack was what was mentioned I heard.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 03, 2020, 03:28:09 pm
Britains Doc Houlihan on the telly this morning was asked .How long will the vax last is it going to be one hit or an annual hit ?He said he dosent know .Then asked the stuff comes in packages containing a certain amount of doses that cant be split into smaller packages .So how will they be able to get the stuff to Nursing homes if there are less residents than the minimum amount of doses per package ?Will they waste the rest that they dont use after they open the pack .The English Doc Houlihan said he didnt know .Then he was asked due to social distancing the amount of patients available to que for the Vax will be restricted , it will require a huge amount of inoculation centers how many and how long will it take to vax the whole population and will it be done by Doctors or Nurses .He said he didnt know .Seems like Boris was trying to divert attention from something else by announcing a Vaccine without any delivery programme in place .

 The NHS and HSE here are short of Doctors and nurses the logistics of distributing this stuff is going to be huge .Local lockdowns and restrictions will prevent huge Injection centers in Sports grounds or shopping centers as the government wont want infected beasts roaming the country infecting each other .I dont think they thought this thing through another problem is the Vax only has a short shelf life after manufacture from machine to needle to arm before its out of date .Even if all the doses we require were available tomorrow the ability to inoculate everybody does not exist and will take longer to develope than the actual vaccine .

For the shrewd investor with a trading app .Invest in the companies that make syringes every dose will require at least two .
% doses per pack was what was mentioned I heard.

I think its 95 doses per pack ?
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Bob Shillin on December 03, 2020, 03:30:08 pm
Sorry , I meant to print 5. Obviously I heard wrong.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Shallowhal on December 03, 2020, 06:26:02 pm
I know it's a double jab anyway...i hope it's a big fukin needle....i'd say they'll probably inject into the eye of ermys flute when they catch sight of him!!
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: stonethecrows on December 03, 2020, 09:28:16 pm
I dont know if I would take it or not.I dont like the fact thats its in two parts two injections.it reminds me a bit like electrical cars,they are only really in their infantcy

Since Jenner invented the Smallpox Vaccine humans have always been vaccinated with a minute dose of whatever to build up immunity .These new Vaccines dont use the offending virus they use something else that recodes your cells to fight the Spike Proteins ie the Glue that binds the virus to the host cells as a virus does not have its own cells ..Here is my biggest Red Flag apart from Donny T being a Fucktard the Americans are the most advanced country on earth by a long way they also have the largest death rate per head in the World from covid they also have a legal system that fines the guilty unlike our government going to indemnify drug Companies .So if this process is totally safe why have the Americans not adopted it yet .Remember Scientists told us Smoking was safe .Guinness Alcohol was good for you Sugar was safe and Diesel was better than petrol for the atmosphere .The  British vaccine that gives you a tiny dose of the actual virus .Thats the one I would prefer and will wait on .Worst can happen is you get the virus from it but who knows what the worst effect of the unknown vaccines are .
JM , "Worst can happen is you get the virus from it" , me think you left out 2 very important words - AND DIE
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 03, 2020, 09:28:59 pm
Is there country jobs?
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Belker on December 04, 2020, 10:18:11 am
No and Yes .I would take the traditional vaccine where they inject a small dose so you build up immunity but I would not take the new Biological ones .They work bit like if you imagine the virus is covered in glue they attack the glue make it non sticky so the virus cannot cling on to host sells but we dont know what part of the glue it will neutralize and if we get other illnesses like cancer will the part of the glue they neutralized be needed so you can absorb new medicines .Some new vaccines are genetic engineering .The Brits might be the GuineaPigs but it might be years down the road before any damage like the inability to absorb other Medicines or Vaccines is identified .
Sure most of us on here are in the 'Home stretch' anyway !
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Belker on December 04, 2020, 10:26:29 am
When Freenow announce a special category of driver called Vaccine elite driver extra medals or some bollox you'll all be taking the vaccine.They wont be seen to be doing nothing or tolerating drivers who don't want it.They're already telling you to get a screen and wear mask.

I bet you a tenner theyll have cople nurses an a big black doctor fella in a white coat  in mount st just so it looks PC vaccinating the dopes .....licky lackys get it first and gett a lollipop an goodie bag with a  little rubber virus wit a sad face yu stick on the end of yur biro an it tastes of strawberries  an beer mats an a voucher for 4 star petrol for a fiver an an airfreshner wit anti bacterial dettol smell an a sticker they can stick on the side of the car sayin in big letters "  INNOCULATED DRIVER.... FOR YOUR SAFETY " and the  ordinary scum will just get  a plaster wer they got injected
Maybe we could make our own stickers which read; "Vaccinated Customers Only" because FN are sure not going to be asking fer that.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 04, 2020, 10:33:45 am
The score so far of those who voted 7 yes 5 no .last time there were a lot more yesses .Sort of confirms what Fuci was saying in the USA if people think this is a rush job they wont get it .Seems like Pfiser cant deliver all they promised as they didnt expect it to be approved so quickly .So once again the Brits Jumping the gun without knowing what comes next you think Brexit would of learned them  lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: mercenary for hire on December 04, 2020, 10:45:42 am
If taxi drivers opinions were important we'd be on the panel with Dr Tony and Dr Ronan.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 04, 2020, 11:01:48 am
If taxi drivers opinions were important we'd be on the panel with Dr Tony and Dr Ronan.

How easy is it to catch stuff in a taxi .Oisin Murphy young Jockey from Kerry who has probably the best racing job outside of Aiden O Briens .Gets banned because he tested positive for Cocaine Use .Now he swears he never touched the stuff got the best scientists in the world to test his blood and his hair to prove he never took Coke .Then he comes up with the story I never touched it but people I came into contact with might have .The authorities are not buying it so our young Rascal says Well Im a young man and I was jockying an youngone and I could of got infected  from her .

 Now I remember First Year Science in Jambo seperating alcohol from water using a bunson burner and a condenser .So im thinking if you collected up piss and boiled it till there was very little left could you nine unused coke .We could be like the lads on telly in Alasks looking in the dirt for Gold .

So if we can catch covid from breath could a driver get drunk by  breathing in enough gargle fumes to fail a drink drive test .Seems like a jockey on the job can get stoned enough to fail a drug test .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: silverbullet on December 04, 2020, 01:35:40 pm
If taxi drivers opinions were important we'd be on the panel with Dr Tony and Dr Ronan.
Typical  - Jabs for the boys! 8)
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 04, 2020, 01:38:20 pm
England V Russia .England Vax the old and vulnerable and front line workers first .Russia vaccinate everybody between the ages of 18 and 60 first get them back to work .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: silverbullet on December 04, 2020, 01:39:52 pm
England V Russia .England Vax the old and vulnerable and front line workers first .Russia vaccinate everybody between the ages of 18 and 60 first get them back to work .
Why are nation States hacking cold supply chains for the vaccine?
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Belker on December 04, 2020, 03:11:18 pm
England V Russia .England Vax the old and vulnerable and front line workers first .Russia vaccinate everybody between the ages of 18 and 60 first get them back to work .
The Russian plan works fer me !
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Cool Boola on December 04, 2020, 03:26:43 pm
Looks like the vaccine will be given and then another one after a month and then a quick test and a other shot 2 weeks later and then you are covered for 6 months...Some money to be made on that...Think I will become a nursery
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: sore on December 05, 2020, 01:42:17 am
Will only take the oxford/astrazeneca vaccine if i had a choice, its more a traditional vaccine than the pfizer/moderna messenger RNA which is new technology. Being a young man of child bearing age(under 70) i'll stay away from new technology that may have unintended side effects.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 05, 2020, 02:07:15 am
Idont like the idea of it being 2 vaccines instead of one
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: TheDevilHimself on December 05, 2020, 02:46:39 am
It's not the virus you are sick of , it's the  social distancing,  economic  devastation, face masks, queues, lockdowns, etc  Imagine how you would feel if you got yourself all vaccinated along with everyone else and all that other shit was here to stay ?
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on December 05, 2020, 03:59:38 am
It's all a loada bollocks.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 07, 2020, 05:59:16 pm
IS THIS ANOTHER ONE At least one person has died and 200 others have been hospitalised due to an unidentified illness in the southern Indian state of Andhra Pradesh, reports say.

The illness was detected on Saturday evening (local time) in Eluru, an ancient city famous for its hand-woven products. Since then, patients have experienced symptoms ranging from nausea and anxiety to loss of consciousness, doctors said.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 09, 2020, 10:27:27 am
 You couldnt make up this Shit .Watching the Brit Doc Hooligan being questioned in Parliamentary Committee  unbelievable what he is telling the committee .He was asked does the Vaccine Protect only the person who got it or others .He said just like most Vaccines it will only work on those who take it so lockdowns and social distancing must continue .Then asked does the Vaccine prevent you getting the Virus or does it just prevent the effects .Which means that you could catch the Cold but show no symptoms but still spread it if you have it .He said he doesn't know what the Side effects or how exactly it works .At least the Brit Tds are asking questions .Unlike here Doc Hooligan seems to be immune from Questioning .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 09, 2020, 10:51:34 am
It's all a loada bollocks.

Doc You were right .Listening to the Brit Doc Hooligan .Remember this is their top Man .TD asks him the test for covid have been PROVED  to be 50% wrong in a recent Liverpool survey .So Brit Doc Hooligan says with a straight face .Imagine 100 infected people are going to go to the Hairdressers and they need to have a pre test .If we detect 50% of them then we reduce the amount of effected people by 50% and protect the Hairdressers .

So if you get into a boxing ring with Anto Joshua and tie one of his hands behind his back you reduce your death rate by 50% but the Big Lad can still kill the head off you with a right uppercut .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 09, 2020, 11:04:20 am
To be fair to the Brits they are just accepting everything at face value ..One Day into giving the Vaccine and already they are covering their arse ..UK regulators have issued a warning that people who have a history of "significant" allergic reactions should not currently receive the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine after two people who had the jab yesterday had allergic reactions.

Two NHS staff members who received the vaccine on the first day of the mass vaccination programme suffered an allergic reaction, the NHS in England has confirmed.

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has given precautionary advice to NHS trusts that anyone who has a history of "significant" allergic reactions to medicines, food or vaccines should not receive the vaccine.

The NHS in England said all trusts involved with the vaccination programme have been informed.

This means that anyone scheduled to receive the vaccine today will be asked about their history of allergic reactions.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Justin Time on December 09, 2020, 11:32:36 am
To be fair to the Brits they are just accepting everything at face value ..One Day into giving the Vaccine and already they are covering their arse ..UK regulators have issued a warning that people who have a history of "significant" allergic reactions should not currently receive the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine after two people who had the jab yesterday had allergic reactions.

Two NHS staff members who received the vaccine on the first day of the mass vaccination programme suffered an allergic reaction, the NHS in England has confirmed.

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has given precautionary advice to NHS trusts that anyone who has a history of "significant" allergic reactions to medicines, food or vaccines should not receive the vaccine.

The NHS in England said all trusts involved with the vaccination programme have been informed.

This means that anyone scheduled to receive the vaccine today will be asked about their history of allergic reactions.

But all of the above is perfectly normal when it comes to vaccines. The allergic reactions will always be present for any drug or any person. Im sure many on here are allergic to drugs/medicines they have received over the years. In the main this vaccine is a game changer, although it has only  been rolled out yesterday,it has already been administered to 20,000 people in clinical trials and the rate of allergic reactions is minimal
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 09, 2020, 11:39:25 am
Could be hope it is but the trials are rigged .I have dons some in the past .You must be healthy to partake so anybody on any medication or with existing conditions are not allowed partake in the trials .I would think that is the Group who most need the needle .So it is fair to say that the Vaccine has not been tested on the most venerable groups before issue .As I said in an earlier post I would prefer the Canbridge needle .Im not anti vax just dont like how they are rushing this .I wonder if the Brits jumped the Gun to act as a smoke cloud for brexit and to avoid hold ups in deliveries from Europe .Britain is turning into a Big Laboratory test for both Brexit and Vaxit .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Justin Time on December 09, 2020, 02:38:47 pm
Whilst it may seemed rushed. The facts are all the stops were pulled out to find a vaccine asap as this is a pandemic like one we havnt seen since the Spanish Flu.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Bob Shillin on December 09, 2020, 04:09:42 pm
The main reasons to why "normal" vaccines take much longer to develop, apparently, has to do with ongoing corporate financial investment strategies, coupled with urgency of need, and likliehood of success.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Octavia1 on December 13, 2020, 01:05:47 pm
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1212/1183995-fda-approves-pfizer-biontech-vaccine/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1212/1183995-fda-approves-pfizer-biontech-vaccine/)

The roll-out of the vaccine in America is called ....wait for it .......operation " warp speed " .....
It's a new type of vaccine that gives  " genetic instructions " 
???
The operation is to be overseen by .............wait for it .........." an  American general " ( a fukin mad bastard who loves to spread death  from the sky in countries thousands of miles away to secure oil fields and tells the world god is on his side  )

It's to be shipped in boxes that keep it at - 70 degrees by ex cab drivers ( hardly reliable to even know wat 70 degrees means  if the taxi drivers Christmas science question competition  results are any guide  ) who drive for  fed ex

The head of food an dog authority was told if he didnt sign
Its release heed get the sack ....
.
Dont know bout use lot ....but I've one them feelings I get on the back me neck that this is going go belly up arse about face ......it be safer to inoculation yurself by getting the chinese flu
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: mercenary for hire on December 13, 2020, 01:12:00 pm
We might be near the front of the queue because we're(yous working) front line workers.Dont be so ungrateful Octy take yer untested vaccine for feck's sake.

Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 13, 2020, 01:16:47 pm
Your right about the Covid Egg Conundrum one lad suggested using Chemistry to solve the issue like using Chemistry to keep the vaccines cold .Some people to fucking stupit to understand that principle .Did you read the SMALL print in both the US and GB vaccine rollouts neither of them APPROVED the Vaccine what they ALLOWED was emergency roll out .Now what does that mean .It means if you take it and turn mong you have no legal comeback .You decided to take it of your own free will knowing it was NOT APPROVED for general release but for Emergency use only .Bit like drinking Moonshine then trying to sue because you got the Shits .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on December 13, 2020, 01:28:48 pm
It's all a loada bollocks.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Octavia1 on December 13, 2020, 05:33:26 pm
Your right about the Covid Egg Conundrum one lad suggested using Chemistry to solve the issue like using Chemistry to keep the vaccines cold .Some people to fucking stupit to understand that principle .Did you read the SMALL print in both the US and GB vaccine rollouts neither of them APPROVED the Vaccine what they ALLOWED was emergency roll out .Now what does that mean .It means if you take it and turn mong you have no legal comeback .You decided to take it of your own free will knowing it was NOT APPROVED for general release but for Emergency use only .Bit like drinking Moonshine then trying to sue because you got the Shits .

Why does it have to be a new method?   If it's not broke why fix it .....?
Every flu vaccine proven relatively safe for the vast majority for decades has apparently used the same old method....
Now this new method unproven as safe in the long term is bein rushed tru......thers blokes " experts " all over the kip wit a gun to ther head .....get this ting out there or yur going be sacked .....and in America...sacked means yu may as well ho down to Walmart an buy a colt 45 an 1 bullitt cause yur career is fuked.......an yull end up under a bridge
Drinkin  cheap hand sanitizer ..........
I dont like this ting atall atall .....
Them American are run by Jews an scientologist an new age
Fukin jesus freaks .....ide no more take that fuking injection off them mad cnuts no more than I wud off them Muslim  head cases and ther religious santi claus for adults that givs yu a load of virgins if you stick a kilogram of semtex up yur arse an lite a fuse ......
These cnuts are all about money ....an ther off ther trollys....america an the pharmaceutical industry is run by  phychos ...they just want to get the dollor back on track cause the squinty  chinese did this flu deliberately to fuk up america ......an this vaccine was ready in 6 months wen normally it takes 2 yers at least ........
Fuk that .....I tink I'll go into temple bar an mingle an get the fukin flu an take me chances ....
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 13, 2020, 05:40:47 pm
OCCi there is loads of Fuckology .This Vaccine IS NOT APPROVED BY any recognizable body It is approved for EMERGENCY USE ONLY .Borris needed to be First before he gets slaughtered by Brexit no matter what he does and the Orangutang Man wants to be able to say the Vaccine was invented with his help .Like yourself I would not take it .Would consider the Brit one where they give you a bit of it .I got a Bit of Polio and a bit of Measels and a bit of TB but never got the Dizzzzzeeezzzze from those vacines .This new Bionic medicine is not for me .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: watty on December 13, 2020, 05:41:39 pm
The old way took 10 years, the new way not so long...  There's now more people dying in America every single day from C19 than died in their 9/11 so I don't think they wanted to hang around.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 13, 2020, 05:45:40 pm
Believe it or not,there are thousands of people who are afraid of needles,and for that reason alone wont take the vaccine.most people who are afraid would NEVER admit it.I am one such person,and this is the reason I have never taken the flu vaccine.I know its stupid,but its a fact that some of us are afraid of needles
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: watty on December 13, 2020, 05:51:55 pm
The flu vaccine can be given to children as a nasal spray, afaik.  If you don't like needles, maybe they could give you the kids' version or a double dose of it?
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 13, 2020, 05:59:47 pm
If I can avoid taking the Bionic Vaccine I will but if thats all thats available Ill have to think about it .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 13, 2020, 06:02:57 pm
Its also TWO needles ,not one
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Shallowhal on December 13, 2020, 06:11:04 pm
The vaccine only protects the person who receives it,they can still be a carrier and transmit it to those who haven't received it....so maybe you should be top of the list Dalyer
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 13, 2020, 07:01:53 pm
Very true,but I think im way down the pecking ocrder
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Justin Time on December 13, 2020, 09:29:25 pm
FFS,
All those idiots who are saying they wont take the vaccine,wouldnt be here were it not for vaccines.
Kop the fuck on
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Shallowhal on December 13, 2020, 11:02:09 pm
There's no tellin some people JT.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Belker on December 14, 2020, 08:35:49 am
After reading some of the recent 'Egg spat' on here I think the vaccine should be mandatory fer some.

Three grown men arguing over the merits of an Egg fer 4 days, that is not normal behaviour !
That is Covid19 'Lock-down' behaviour !!
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: TheDevilHimself on December 14, 2020, 11:29:54 am
FFS,
All those idiots who are saying they wont take the vaccine,wouldnt be here were it not for vaccines.
Kop the fuck on
Bullshit ! there has been a shit ton of money(billions) spent to convince the world that good health comes at the end of a needle instead of coming through  good food clean water air  and  excercise ect.
It's called marketing, and I'm sure they'll get a good return on their investment.  They have all the credulous idiots in the world who have forgotton how to think for themselves  lining up to get  injected with something that they dont understand against a disease that they read in the paper or saw on the telly.
"wouldnt be here were it not for vaccines" Humans have done just fine  for millions of years, Vaccines have been around for 222 years .........You Kop on and wake the fuck up !
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Justin Time on December 14, 2020, 12:12:17 pm
FFS,
All those idiots who are saying they wont take the vaccine,wouldnt be here were it not for vaccines.
Kop the fuck on
Bullshit ! there has been a shit ton of money(billions) spent to convince the world that good health comes at the end of a needle instead of coming through  good food clean water air  and  excercise ect.
It's called marketing, and I'm sure they'll get a good return on their investment.  They have all the credulous idiots in the world who have forgotton how to think for themselves  lining up to get  injected with something that they dont understand against a disease that they read in the paper or saw on the telly.
"wouldnt be here were it not for vaccines" Humans have done just fine  for millions of years, Vaccines have been around for 222 years .........You Kop on and wake the fuck up !

BREAKING NEWS:
Reports are coming in from experts saying,that clean air, good food, and clean water have shown to eradicate,measles,mumps,rubella,smallpox,polio, Diphtheria and the Spanish Flu.
It was widely believed that vaccines helped to eradicate all of the above. The experts however have refuted these claims and say kop on and wake up.
Who knew?
Further information when we have it
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 14, 2020, 12:43:42 pm
Well im just in the door 15673 Steps done,the fukers  have the wooden bridge closed all last week,so me week,and this week,so me walk now is straight from sutton to fairview,and back
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Octavia1 on December 14, 2020, 01:00:23 pm
After reading some of the recent 'Egg spat' on here I think the vaccine should be mandatory fer some.

Three grown men arguing over the merits of an Egg fer 4 days, that is not normal behaviour !
That is Covid19 'Lock-down' behaviour !!

It's better than talkin bout Brexit...or how many gold stars yu got this week ken ....thers blokes on here an all they can talk bout is how much money they got this week ....
That egg competition was the best most intelligent ting on here for yers ....the fact that I solved it  very quickly an won me own prize an ther was very little participation  by others just means they hadn't got a clue how to boil a bleedin egg ....never mind solve an intricate an difficult science problem......anyway I'm takin another 6 months off .......I've 2 underlying conditions ....laziness an cowardice.....
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Octavia1 on December 14, 2020, 01:20:57 pm
FFS,
All those idiots who are saying they wont take the vaccine,wouldnt be here were it not for vaccines.
Kop the fuck on
Bullshit ! there has been a shit ton of money(billions) spent to convince the world that good health comes at the end of a needle instead of coming through  good food clean water air  and  excercise ect.
It's called marketing, and I'm sure they'll get a good return on their investment.  They have all the credulous idiots in the world who have forgotton how to think for themselves  lining up to get  injected with something that they dont understand against a disease that they read in the paper or saw on the telly.
"wouldnt be here were it not for vaccines" Humans have done just fine  for millions of years, Vaccines have been around for 222 years .........You Kop on and wake the fuck up !

BREAKING NEWS:
Reports are coming in from experts saying,that clean air, good food, and clean water have shown to eradicate,measles,mumps,rubella,smallpox,polio, Diphtheria and the Spanish Flu.
It was widely believed that vaccines helped to eradicate all of the above. The experts however have refuted these claims and say kop on and wake up.
Who knew?
Further information when we have it

I don kno bout that justin .....wen I went to school ther was cople blokes wit no arms an legs ....it was sum drug they gave to ther mammy wen she was up the duff ...an apparently it was rushed out on the market .....
In a America  the mad kip  in the 50s ther was 40,000 kids given polio by accident in a vaccine that was rushed an live polio injected into the kids .....
I know things have moved on .....but all I'm pointing out is that America now days is run by fukin mad men ....the dollor is more important than the population....
Yu yurself believe trump a  nazi ....hes certainly a psychopathic narcissist with the brains of a cockroach.....
But he ran that kip for 4 yers ......
The first ting he did in office was to sell 350$ billion dollors worth of arms to Israel's ally saudi Arabia....now that was fulfilling an electoral promise to those who got him in power
Now we have 25 million people starving to death in Yemen because of the war funded by American......
Now this is wer I told yu bout brainwashin an why I dont have a telly......the jewboys behind these arms sales are the same one  that make programs on the telly about how hitler was the most evil cnut ever in the history of the world .....every second station on the telly has a programme bout hitler ...hav yu noticed?
An 25 million people in Yemen alone are bein ethically cleansed  in an American funded war causing the greatest famine  in history an thers absolutely sweet  fuk all on the telly bout it ........
I dont tink its stupit to be cautious bout antin that comes out of that hell on earth called America
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Bob Shillin on December 14, 2020, 02:19:16 pm
FFS,
All those idiots who are saying they wont take the vaccine,wouldnt be here were it not for vaccines.
Kop the fuck on
Bullshit ! there has been a shit ton of money(billions) spent to convince the world that good health comes at the end of a needle instead of coming through  good food clean water air  and  excercise ect.
It's called marketing, and I'm sure they'll get a good return on their investment.  They have all the credulous idiots in the world who have forgotton how to think for themselves  lining up to get  injected with something that they dont understand against a disease that they read in the paper or saw on the telly.
"wouldnt be here were it not for vaccines" Humans have done just fine  for millions of years, Vaccines have been around for 222 years .........You Kop on and wake the fuck up !

BREAKING NEWS:
Reports are coming in from experts saying,that clean air, good food, and clean water have shown to eradicate,measles,mumps,rubella,smallpox,polio, Diphtheria and the Spanish Flu.
It was widely believed that vaccines helped to eradicate all of the above. The experts however have refuted these claims and say kop on and wake up.
Who knew?
Further information when we have it

I don kno bout that justin .....wen I went to school ther was cople blokes wit no arms an legs ....it was sum drug they gave to ther mammy wen she was up the duff ...an apparently it was rushed out on the market .....
In a America  the mad kip  in the 50s ther was 40,000 kids given polio by accident in a vaccine that was rushed an live polio injected into the kids .....
I know things have moved on .....but all I'm pointing out is that America now days is run by fukin mad men ....the dollor is more important than the population....
Yu yurself believe trump a  nazi ....hes certainly a psychopathic narcissist with the brains of a cockroach.....
But he ran that kip for 4 yers ......
The first ting he did in office was to sell 350$ billion dollors worth of arms to Israel's ally saudi Arabia....now that was fulfilling an electoral promise to those who got him in power
Now we have 25 million people starving to death in Yemen because of the war funded by American......
Now this is wer I told yu bout brainwashin an why I dont have a telly......the jewboys behind these arms sales are the same one  that make programs on the telly about how hitler was the most evil cnut ever in the history of the world .....every second station on the telly has a programme bout hitler ...hav yu noticed?
An 25 million people in Yemen alone are bein ethically cleansed  in an American funded war causing the greatest famine  in history an thers absolutely sweet  fuk all on the telly bout it ........
I dont tink its stupit to be cautious bout antin that comes out of that hell on earth called America
https://helix.northwestern.edu/article/thalidomide-tragedy-lessons-drug-safety-and-regulation
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 14, 2020, 02:33:33 pm
A fact the Irish are the most vaccinated nation on earth by the state .BCG against Tubercolusis .MMR measels mumps Rubella ,Polio Vaccine pink drop an a sugerlump .Swine Flu vaccines HPV for cervical cancer then boosters all provided FREE by the State .Then dont forget Holy Water splashed on ya by yer granny as you left her house .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 14, 2020, 02:37:54 pm
John your begining to sound more and more like dr bill cullen
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 14, 2020, 03:18:25 pm
Add in the WHO Vaccine if you ever went to Australia or to visit your family in Bulawayo .Dollyer I remember going to get the Polio Vaccine in the health Center on the Corner of Vincent Street and Emmett Road its a Pigeon Club Now use to be a turf Depot after it was the local health center .I also remember the Nurse coming into the School and you had to que up in your jocks in the hall skidmarks and all to have your young stones juggled and checked for nits .Milk of Magnesia or Syrup of Figgs to clean you out and If nobody was looking you might rob a spoonfull of Andrews Liver Salts stick it in a cup of water make a fizzy drink .Bathnight was Saturday Oul fella first then the kids then the Ma learned science that way water displacement gave you the volume of the people in the bath you just had to look at the dirty marks around the bath to see whos dirt was stuck to the bath .Bill Cullen Me Bollox him and his apples we scraped the white out of the inside of the Banana skins with our bottom teath .Bread and butter with a sprinkle of Sugar was a delicacy .I remember the Polio Sugar Lumps it was the first time I ever seen a sugar cube .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 14, 2020, 03:30:15 pm
Thats it.im defo going to see can I get you into thr laughter lounge im pissing meself laughing
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 14, 2020, 03:55:21 pm
Thats it.im defo going to see can I get you into thr laughter lounge im pissing meself laughing

Jasus Dollyer you think this is Funny this is Social History .The one Whos Name We Dont Mention I recon it was this Examination in high babies that made him go wrong .He had 11 sisters on the day of the exam he had to line up in pink girls nickers .Years later he was fined £2 ten Shillings for stealing nine pairs of the Cluxton Girls nickers off the line in the courtyard of the flats .His poor mother was mortified telling the neighbours he thought they belonged to his sisters but everybody knew .Its no laughing matter Dollyer.As for hunger I remember watching me Granny eating an Orange and she wouldnt give you a section because you might choke on it but we would take the shin out of the bin and eat the white bit .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 14, 2020, 04:54:13 pm
Ermy seriously I nearly fukin choked while eating a cut of bread with the laughing
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Octavia1 on December 14, 2020, 05:28:44 pm
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/health-and-human-body/human-diseases/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker-how-they-work-latest-developments-cvd/ (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/health-and-human-body/human-diseases/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker-how-they-work-latest-developments-cvd/)

At least find out before yu get it  which one yu gettin .....an wait
Cople months to see if the initial guineas pigs are gettin the scutters an heart attacks....no harm bein cautious....all these vaccines are overulin some  precautions that wer established from mistakes in the past ......
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Cool Boola on December 14, 2020, 10:40:27 pm
New strain of virus found in the UK...we are ffukked
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: silverbullet on December 15, 2020, 06:28:24 pm
Well im just in the door 15673 Steps done,the fukers  have the wooden bridge closed all last week,so me week,and this week,so me walk now is straight from sutton to fairview,and back
Great work Dalymount.  I think I'll good with 2500 while walking around the park.
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Cool Boola on December 16, 2020, 10:15:30 am
Will 6000 if its not raining or very cold or Im tired
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 16, 2020, 11:15:44 am
Ah ya have to be prepared to go out in all weathers coola
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 16, 2020, 12:06:52 pm
FFS, anyone taking health related advice from DM wants their head examined... and their heart, liver, kidneys, blood/sugar, etc, etc...
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 16, 2020, 12:26:06 pm
Not giving advice,just saying how good I feel after putting in a good walking shift
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 16, 2020, 12:30:44 pm
Tell us how good you feel the next time some immigrant masquerading as a surgeon is wielding a knife over your torso!
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 16, 2020, 12:54:22 pm
Hard to believe,but it is exactly 1 year ago today I went into hospital for my angiogram thinking I was just going to get up off the bed and go home,that there would be nothing wrong.how wrong I was
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 16, 2020, 12:56:15 pm
Tell us how good you feel the next time some immigrant masquerading as a surgeon is wielding a knife over your torso!
well considering the love you jave for big macs burgers,you might be able to attest to that before me
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 16, 2020, 01:08:23 pm
How wrong you are, indeed!
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 16, 2020, 01:20:13 pm
^ you were probably lucky to go in last year... a year later and COVID '19 woulda surely finished you off...
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: dalymount on December 16, 2020, 01:23:23 pm
I would say a few WEEKS later and they wouldn't have done the operation at all.dont forget it was 17 th Jan they done it,and covid was really starting to become a problem then
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Octavia1 on December 16, 2020, 06:00:28 pm
I would say a few WEEKS later and they wouldn't have done the operation at all.dont forget it was 17 th Jan they done it,and covid was really starting to become a problem then

Brave man ......I be buyin a nice bottle whiskey......an testing the aerodynamics of me car off howth head to led zeppelin full blast on the stereo........
Yeehaa
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: Shallowhal on December 16, 2020, 07:37:46 pm
I would say a few WEEKS later and they wouldn't have done the operation at all.dont forget it was 17 th Jan they done it,and covid was really starting to become a problem then

Brave man ......I be buyin a nice bottle whiskey......an testing the aerodynamics of me car off howth head to led zeppelin full blast on the stereo........
Yeehaa

Probably die of electrocution in your hape...not drowning!!
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: TheDevilHimself on December 18, 2020, 12:12:13 pm
FFS,
All those idiots who are saying they wont take the vaccine,wouldnt be here were it not for vaccines.
Kop the fuck on
Bullshit ! there has been a shit ton of money(billions) spent to convince the world that good health comes at the end of a needle instead of coming through  good food clean water air  and  excercise ect.
It's called marketing, and I'm sure they'll get a good return on their investment.  They have all the credulous idiots in the world who have forgotton how to think for themselves  lining up to get  injected with something that they dont understand against a disease that they read in the paper or saw on the telly.
"wouldnt be here were it not for vaccines" Humans have done just fine  for millions of years, Vaccines have been around for 222 years .........You Kop on and wake the fuck up !

BREAKING NEWS:
Reports are coming in from experts saying,that clean air, good food, and clean water have shown to eradicate,measles,mumps,rubella,smallpox,polio, Diphtheria and the Spanish Flu.
It was widely believed that vaccines helped to eradicate all of the above. The experts however have refuted these claims and say kop on and wake up.
Who knew?
Further information when we have it
It's amazing that  the human race didnt die out before the experts invented these fabulous things . I think everyone should have what I want whether they want it or not . studies have shown that experts all agree that the science is in !  we can all go back to watching cartoons now that  we are safe !
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 18, 2020, 01:31:16 pm
A you cant beat Faith Big Dommos sister use to go the Chapel every year to get her throat bless right up till the year she died from throat Cancer use to swear by it never got tonsilitis .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: TheDevilHimself on December 20, 2020, 03:19:44 am
A you cant beat Faith Big Dommos sister use to go the Chapel every year to get her throat bless right up till the year she died from throat Cancer use to swear by it never got tonsilitis .
LOL  Just three more weeks and we'll flatten that pesky curve !
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 20, 2020, 05:01:38 am
A you cant beat Faith Big Dommos sister use to go the Chapel every year to get her throat bless right up till the year she died from throat Cancer use to swear by it never got tonsilitis .
LOL  Just three more weeks and we'll flatten that pesky curve !


Big Dommo recons its all Sinead O Connors fault .Britain just announced they have invented a better version of Covid spreads faster works better ,to listen to Boris and the BBC tell it you might think its a great achievement by them .That will fuck up their curve 6 years of WW2 and they never closed Harrods nightly bombings and blitz never closed London WTF is really going on .
Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
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Scientists are scrambling to understand the new coronavirus variant that has devastated the Christmas plans of millions of people in Britain and left the UK largely isolated from the rest of the world as a result of travel bans imposed by other countries. Labelled B.1.1.7, we look at what we know and don’t know about the new strain.

Where did the new variant come from?
It was first detected in mid-October when the Covid-19 Genomics UK Consortium (Cog-UK) read the full genetic code of coronavirus in two samples that had been collected in Kent and London on September 20 and 21.

The scientists were surprised to find far more mutations than in any previous variant of the Sars-Cov-2 virus analysed since the pandemic started. Twenty-three letters of the viral genetic code had changed, of which 17 could alter the behaviour of the virus. They included several mutations on the key “spike protein” that it uses to enter human cells.


Although no one knows for sure how — or where — B.1.1.7 arose, virologists suspect that the multiple mutations occurred in a patient with a severely suppressed immune system who incubated Sars-Cov-2 for many weeks and then infected someone else. They say these conditions are likely to supercharge the mutation process.

How infectious is it and how far has it spread?
B.1.1.7 has multiplied rapidly in London and south-east England, supplanting older variants. It was responsible for 28 per cent of infections in London by early November and 62 per cent in the week ending December 9. It is also present at much lower levels in Scotland, Wales and the rest of England.


The variant’s rapid spread could be because it is more transmissible or because carriers were behaving in ways more likely to transmit the virus, such as ignoring social-distancing measures © Niklas Hallen/AFP/Getty
Computer modelling of the viral spread suggests the new variant could be 70 per cent more transmissible than other Sars-Cov-2 strains circulating in the UK. The modelling shows it may raise the R value of the virus — the average number of people to whom someone with Covid-19 passes the infection — by at least 0.4, making the pandemic far harder to control without stringent lockdown measures. Some specific mutations on B.1.1.7 also look as though they might make it easier to infect people.

However, no laboratory studies of the transmissibility of the new virus have been completed and some independent experts were cautious about the meaning of the UK government’s modelling. The variant’s rapid spread could be a coincidence, they said, because people who happened to be carrying the variant had behaved in ways that were more likely to transmit the virus, such as ignoring social-distancing measures.

“The question now is, of course, is this mutation emerging alongside a new wave in this region [of south-east England], or is the mutation itself responsible for creating this wave?” Christian Drosten, one of Germany’s leading virologists, said on German radio, adding that he was “not that concerned” about the new strain.

Outside the UK, the new Covid-19 variant has been identified in Denmark (nine cases), Australia (two) and Italy, the Netherlands and Iceland (one each). But scientists suspect that the virus has spread much farther afield than this smattering of cases would indicate. The UK is one of the few countries doing the intensive genomic sequencing required to identify variants. UK scientists have produced half of the publicly released Sars-Cov-2 sequences in the world.

“There are very few countries that look — and if you don’t look for it, you won’t find it,” said Mads Albertsen, an expert in microbial genetics at Aalborg University in Denmark. “I cannot imagine that it hasn’t spread worldwide by now, that seems unrealistic. It’s been in the UK for so long it must be in all countries around the world.”

Will the variant affect the immune system enough to stop Covid-19 vaccines working?
The vaccines completing trials and beginning mass inoculation programmes — from Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna and Oxford/AstraZeneca — achieve protection by training the recipient’s immune system to recognise many different sites on the viral spike protein. Experts do not expect the mutations on B.1.1.7 to interfere with that.

“The vaccines induce neutralising antibodies to several parts of the spike and most of these would be unchanged by the mutations, so the vaccines will still work,” said Daniel Altmann, professor of immunology at Imperial College London.


Scientists need to know if the new variant will have an impact on vaccine effectiveness © NIAID
“The prediction is that the new variant is unlikely to have more than a minor impact on vaccine effectiveness,” said Professor Adam Finn, a vaccine specialist at the University of Bristol. Scientists at the UK government’s Porton Down microbiology labs and colleagues at the vaccine companies are racing to confirm the veracity of that reassuring prediction.

One lab test involves infecting human cell cultures with coronavirus and then exposing them to antibodies from people who have been vaccinated. The scientists then look for any differences between the ability of the antibodies to neutralise different variants of the virus.

In the longer term, researchers will be examining the health records of people who have been vaccinated to find out whether they are more susceptible to some variants than others.

Does the variant affect how ill people become if they are infected?
The answer here is similar. “There is no evidence at the moment that the new variant causes disease which is any different from that caused by previous variants,” said Peter Openshaw, professor of experimental medicine at Imperial College London.

There is provisional clinical evidence that B.1.1.7 is increasing the “viral load” — the amount of virus present in patients’ upper respiratory tract — which is also a feature of another variant called 501. V2 that has evolved independently in South Africa. This may make the new variants transmit more readily between people but it is not clear how the greater viral load would affect symptoms in those who are infected.

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Title: Re: Covid vaccine.
Post by: john m on December 21, 2020, 07:41:37 pm
The variant’s rapid spread could be because it is more transmissible or because carriers were behaving in ways more likely to transmit the virus, such as ignoring social-distancing measures ?????????????????