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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: john m on January 30, 2021, 02:42:08 pm
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First some of the we are all in this togeather crowd were Skurrying like Rats to get vaccinated first because they were more worthy. From Nurses to Cops Teachers bin men they all said they deserved it Now The Drug Companies are at the same shite .Pfiser was First we cant deliver what we promised but we can deliver to who ever pays the most .Then Astra Zenica they couldnt deliver but could deliver to the UK because they paid up front and Oxford university is funded by the Brits so they get their stuff First .Now Moderna cannot deliver what they promised outside of the USA before they deliver in the USA as thats where their HQ is .
In another post on here I posted just doing the sums based on what we actually get delivered it will take four years to needle everybody .People are not going to put up with this for much longer .You know its Fucked when an Irish Taoiseach has to tell the EU to Fuck right off after they try to ban the export of medicine to Ulster Says No because they are in the UK but I thought and the Ulster Said No thought they are also in the EU as well .How long before the Germans try to grab extra doses of the Pfiser stuff because a German company helper invent the stuff .
If Dalymount is still looking in he will be delighted to see the EU beginning to fight with itself .
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A few on here are Skeptical old Bastards or Wise men we dont know which .I just read this from the NY Times https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/30/health/covid-drugs-antivirals.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/30/health/covid-drugs-antivirals.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage) .If ANY of the stuff they want to needle into us is any good why are they still looking for more ?Why dont all the other Factories just make the existing stuff under license and get us all needled .The Docs Chant of ITS ALL A LOAD OF BOLLOX is beginning to look like a reasonable position .Im not sure how much longer I or a lot of people want to sit in self imposed Prison .I havent heard of any outbreak among Tesco or Lidil Staff or Polish Bin Men or Fellas delivering for the Chinease who hand over food and collect money .I wonder if any Scientist has done any research based on evidence that wearing a Work Uniform like a Tesco Blouse or Lidil Shirt actually prevents the spread of the Virus .
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A few on here are Skeptical old Bastards or Wise men we dont know which .I just read this from the NY Times https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/30/health/covid-drugs-antivirals.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/30/health/covid-drugs-antivirals.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage) .If ANY of the stuff they want to needle into us is any good why are they still looking for more ?Why dont all the other Factories just make the existing stuff under license and get us all needled .The Docs Chant of ITS ALL A LOAD OF BOLLOX is beginning to look like a reasonable position .Im not sure how much longer I or a lot of people want to sit in self imposed Prison .I havent heard of any outbreak among Tesco or Lidil Staff or Polish Bin Men or Fellas delivering for the Chinease who hand over food and collect money .I wonder if any Scientist has done any research based on evidence that wearing a Work Uniform like a Tesco Blouse or Lidil Shirt actually prevents the spread of the Virus .
Free Now stickers and jacket will protect you.
The virus fears Ambassadors, so get out there and go for gol.d.
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Bullett the FACTS are Supervalue Maroon uniforms Lidil Blue ,Marks and Sparks Green school uniforms multicoloured .But where the Outbreaks effect Workers like Hospitals and Slaughter houses the Uniforms are White so based on Scientific analysis carried out in Big Dommos Loft .Wearing White Uniforms helps the Spread of the Virus No outbreaks among Soldiers or Boy Scouts or Girl Guides or binmen and Brickies wearing Yellow High Vis .The Taxi Mensa group should write a paper on this and send it to the Lanscet .Did you know there is a higher rate of Covid among Bus Eireann white shirt drivers than among the Blue Shirted Dublin Bus Driver .It might be rude to ask but does Mr Boola or 42 wear white shirts to work I would like to know for Taxi Mensa research Purposes .
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Bullett the FACTS are Supervalue Maroon uniforms Lidil Blue ,Marks and Sparks Green school uniforms multicoloured .But where the Outbreaks effect Workers like Hospitals and Slaughter houses the Uniforms are White so based on Scientific analysis carried out in Big Dommos Loft .Wearing White Uniforms helps the Spread of the Virus No outbreaks among Soldiers or Boy Scouts or Girl Guides or binmen and Brickies wearing Yellow High Vis .The Taxi Mensa group should write a paper on this and send it to the Lanscet .Did you know there is a higher rate of Covid among Bus Eireann white shirt drivers than among the Blue Shirted Dublin Bus Driver .It might be rude to ask but does Mr Boola or 42 wear white shirts to work I would like to know for Taxi Mensa research Purposes .
Tracksuits are the next level of protection. JUST DO IT as the logo says.
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Estimates of asymptomatic are as high as 75 % ..its possible
Some of you had it already considering the close contact in a taxi ....
Another ting I taut was I taut them American pharmaceutical did all ther manufacturing in ireland on account of the tax breaks like the googles an Facebook's get ....
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It's all a loada bollocks.
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REALLY....YOU WOULD THINK A DOCTOR WOULD HAVE more ORIGINAL IDEAS
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REALLY....YOU WOULD THINK A DOCTOR WOULD HAVE more ORIGINAL IDEAS
The sad thing is our Doc has that Diagnosis from the start .Dont think he is restricted to Medical diagnosis only he probably includes Lockdowns ,Distancing ,Hand washing ,Face Masks .I was out this morning in Big Dommos Loft on the Roof of the Flats .Big Dommo is still isolating until Tuesday so Im Scraping Pigeon Shite out of the nestboxes and cleaning the perches .I have helped Dommo to do that every Sunday since 1974 when he bought his first Pigeon off Old Man Carey from the houses near the flats for 5 New Pence.Now we call that housekeeping a vet would call it Animal Husbandry we know if we want to keep the birds healthy we must clean the Loft .Now a Question .How many members of the HSE ,Department of Health ,Taoiseaches ,Ministers ,Smiling Reporters from Virgin Media or balding reporters from Radio Telefish Eiriann have you seen on the telly over the last ten months .THey telly you with Theatrical Concern and straight faces about the Danger of Infection and the spread of the virus all the Information you will ever need to know along with stuff you dont need to know or want to know .So lets see what you do know did they tell you .HOW OFTEN SHOULD YOU CHANGE OR WASH YOUR FACE MASK . The Good Dr Gooter Bing is absolutely CORRECT .ITS ALL A LOAD OF BOLLOX .HSE trying to say they are doing a great job while actually failing .The Government Claiming they are fighting the Divil by the tail and winning .Nephed making up the rules as they go for the other two to fight over .
So two simple questions .Have you more or less confidence in the Government after ten months .How often should you change your face mask ?
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REALLY....YOU WOULD THINK A DOCTOR WOULD HAVE more ORIGINAL IDEAS
The sad thing is our Doc has that Diagnosis from the start .Dont think he is restricted to Medical diagnosis only he probably includes Lockdowns ,Distancing ,Hand washing ,Face Masks .I was out this morning in Big Dommos Loft on the Roof of the Flats .Big Dommo is still isolating until Tuesday so Im Scraping Pigeon Shite out of the nestboxes and cleaning the perches .I have helped Dommo to do that every Sunday since 1974 when he bought his first Pigeon off Old Man Carey from the houses near the flats for 5 New Pence.Now we call that housekeeping a vet would call it Animal Husbandry we know if we want to keep the birds healthy we must clean the Loft .Now a Question .How many members of the HSE ,Department of Health ,Taoiseaches ,Ministers ,Smiling Reporters from Virgin Media or balding reporters from Radio Telefish Eiriann have you seen on the telly over the last ten months .THey telly you with Theatrical Concern and straight faces about the Danger of Infection and the spread of the virus all the Information you will ever need to know along with stuff you dont need to know or want to know .So lets see what you do know did they tell you .HOW OFTEN SHOULD YOU CHANGE OR WASH YOUR FACE MASK . The Good Dr Gooter Bing is absolutely CORRECT .ITS ALL A LOAD OF BOLLOX .HSE trying to say they are doing a great job while actually failing .The Government Claiming they are fighting the Divil by the tail and winning .Nephed making up the rules as they go for the other two to fight over .
So two simple questions .Have you more or less confidence in the Government after ten months .How often should you change your face mask ?
I look forward to handing over the reins of Government to the Sinn Fein/IRA coalition and telling them the coffers are empty.
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That will be FG plan .Put the Shinners in Power with no money and huge debts force them into tax increases and cuts .SF wont have the numbers so will need FF to prop them up .When it all ends in tears Harris or Heather whoever is leading FG wins a huge mandate .But before all that we need to know .HOW OFTEN SHOULD YOU CHANGE YOUR MASK is it every 5km every 5 minutes every 5 days every 5 weeks .They can tell you how far you can walk they can tell you where to wear a mask but nobody had told us how often to change it .
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Write a letter to the Times John, and I'm sure that will be enough for the government to send someone out to hold your handy during these boogie man times, and show you how, and when, to wash your dirty maskie to keep you, and mammy, and daddy safe.
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Write a letter to the Times John, and I'm sure that will be enough for the government to send someone out to hold your handy during these boogie man times, and show you how, and when, to wash your dirty maskie to keep you, and mammy, and daddy safe.
Ah Robert the issue is very serious in fact it could be a huge risk to health .NO GUIDANCE on when to change masks has been issued simply because it might create a shortage .BUT what happens when you remove your mask where do you store it ?On the hook beside your house keys so you remember it when you go out .Or in your car near the airvents allowing cross contamination .Can the Virus mutate on a mask with any other ailment you may have .I doubt the Irish Times could provide the answer .Advice is available on when to wash your hands but not your mask .Im raising serious questions here Robert hoping to save lives through awareness but Flippancy in responses is not helping !
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https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/face-coverings-masks-and-covid-19/storing-and-washing.html
When to throw out your face covering
Throw out a resuable face covering if it:
- no longer covers the nose and mouth
- has stretched out or damaged ties or straps
- cannot stay on the face
- has holes or tears in the fabric
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Write a letter to the Times John, and I'm sure that will be enough for the government to send someone out to hold your handy during these boogie man times, and show you how, and when, to wash your dirty maskie to keep you, and mammy, and daddy safe.
Ah Robert the issue is very serious in fact it could be a huge risk to health .NO GUIDANCE on when to change masks has been issued simply because it might create a shortage .BUT what happens when you remove your mask where do you store it ?On the hook beside your house keys so you remember it when you go out .Or in your car near the airvents allowing cross contamination .Can the Virus mutate on a mask with any other ailment you may have .I doubt the Irish Times could provide the answer .Advice is available on when to wash your hands but not your mask .Im raising serious questions here Robert hoping to save lives through awareness but Flippancy in responses is not helping !
Yer in long trousers now John, employ some critical thinking. Buy a washable one and wash it at 60deg every night, and it will be ready for you in the morning.
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Robert my trouser length is irrelevant .Have you any relevant Qualification to let us know how a washable mask as opposed to to a Medical Grade mash rates for Viral ingestion or inhalation .I have yet to see ANY member of the medical fraternity wear a washable mask .Can you post any relevant data concerning Fabric, washing temperature's and detergents as I would hate to advise somebody to follow your advice if it has no merit .Thanks in advance .
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JUST IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO FOLLOW ROBERTS LAUNDRY ADVICE ..
Studies of Cloth Mask Efficacy
In 2015, we conducted a randomized controlled trial to compare the efficacy of cloth masks with that of medical masks and controls (standard practice) among healthcare workers in Vietnam (4). Rates of infection were consistently higher among those in the cloth mask group than in the medical mask and control groups. This finding suggests that risk for infection was higher for those wearing cloth masks. The mask tested was a locally manufactured, double-layered cotton mask. Participants were given 5 cloth masks for a 4-week study period and were asked to wash the masks daily with soap and water (4). The poor performance may have been because the masks were not washed frequently enough or because they became moist and contaminated. Medical and cloth masks were used by some participants in the control group, but the poor performance of cloth masks persisted in post hoc analysis when we compared all participants who used medical masks (from the control and the medical mask groups) with all participants who used only a cloth mask (from the control and the cloth mask groups)(4).
We also examined the filtration ability of cloth masks by reviewing 19 studies (3). We found that the filtration effectiveness of cloth masks is generally lower than that of medical masks and respirators. Filtration effectiveness of cloth masks varies widely; some materials filter better than others (9–11). Filtration effectiveness of cloth masks depends on many factors, such as thread count, number of layers, type of fabric, and water resistance (3). One study tested medical masks and several household materials for the ability to block bacterial and viral aerosols. Participants made masks from different materials, and all masks tested showed some ability to block the microbial aerosol challenges although less than that of medical masks (11). Another study found that homemade cloth masks may also reduce aerosol exposure although less so than medical masks and respirators (12). Masks made of cotton and towel provide better protection than masks made of gauze. Although cloth masks are often not designed to fit around the face, some materials may fit snugly against the face. One study found that the use of nylon stockings around the mask improved filtration (A.V. Mueller et al., unpub. data, https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.17.20069567v2.full.pdfExternal (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.17.20069567v2.full.pdfExternal) Link). Filtration effectiveness of wet masks is reportedly lower than that of dry masks (3).
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Policies and Guidelines Associated with Cloth Mask Use
Despite common use of cloth masks in many countries in Asia, existing infection control guidelines do not mention their use (13). However, some previous infection control guidelines have discussed use of cloth masks when medical masks and respirators are not available. For example, in an infection control guideline developed in 1998, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) recommended using cotton masks to protect from viral hemorrhagic fevers in low-resource healthcare settings in Africa if respirators or medical masks were not available (14). Similarly, WHO also discussed the option of using cloth masks to protect wearers from acquiring infection during the 2009 influenza A(H1N1) pandemic (15). In 2006, the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, prepared a report about the reusability of face masks during an influenza pandemic (16). The members were hesitant to advise against the use of cloth masks because of high mask demand during pandemics (16). As a result of the shortage of masks during the recent COVID-19 pandemic, CDC developed strategies for optimizing the supply of masks and recommended using homemade cloth masks when no medical masks are available (1). However, no guidance is provided for cleaning and decontamination of cloth masks, although standard washing in hot water with soap should be adequate.
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Factors to Consider when Using Cloth Masks to Protect Wearers and to Prevent Spread of Infection during the COVID-19 Pandemic
The primary transmission routes for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) are thought to be inhalation of respiratory droplets and close contact; therefore, WHO recommends wearing medical masks during routine care and using respirators during aerosol-generating procedures and other high-risk situations (17). However, SARS-COV-2 is a novel pathogen, and growing evidence indicates the possibility of airborne transmission (18–21). Recommendations to wear masks to protect the wearer from droplet infections are based on the assumption that droplets travel short distances only, generally 1–2 m. However, of 10 studies of horizontal droplet distance, 8 showed that droplets travel >2 m, in some instances ≈8 m (22). A recent study also showed that SARS-CoV-2 may be transmitted up to 4 m (18). Therefore, ideally, all frontline healthcare workers should use a respirator. However, demand for personal protective equipment has increased during the COVID-19 pandemic, and respirator shortages in previous pandemics have also been reported (23–26). If respirators are unavailable, healthcare workers could use a medical mask but may be at increased risk if they do so (2). CDC and the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control initially recommended that all healthcare workers use respirators; however, because of shortages, they later recommended respirator use for high-risk situations only (27,28). Some countries also recommend sterilizing and decontaminating respirators for reuse; however, limited evidence supports these practices (29), and they may not be feasible in low- and middle-income countries.
During a pandemic, cloth masks may be the only option available; however, they should be used as a last resort when medical masks and respirators are not available (3). Cloth mask use should not be mandated for healthcare workers, but some may choose to use them if there are no alternatives (30). Protection is affected by proper mask use as well as by selection of fabric and design of the masks for water resistance, filtration, and fit. Current evidence suggests that multilayered masks with water-resistant fabric, high number of threads, and finer weave may be more protective (3,10). Several studies have examined filtration, but fewer have examined fit or water resistance. Surgical masks are normally rated for fluid resistance, and cloth masks should be too. Masks should be able to prevent a stream of fluid flowing at a pressure of up to 160 mm Hg from seeping through the mask and potentially into the mouth. Furthermore, the degree of fit affects effectiveness because air flows in the direction of least resistance; if gaps are present on the sides of the mask, air will flow through those gaps instead of through the mask.
Cloth masks can be made in large quantities in a short time. They can be reused after being decontaminated by various techniques, ideally washing in hot water with soap. Other methods or products include using bleach, isopropyl alcohol, or hydrogen peroxide; autoclaving or microwaving; and application of ultraviolet radiation or dry heat (16). Unlike disposable medical masks and respirators, the material of cloth masks is unlikely to degrade from standard decontamination procedures. However, hospitals will have the extra burden of cleaning and decontaminating used masks. If healthcare workers perform decontamination themselves, they may fail to wash masks frequently enough and may risk self-contamination (31).
The general public can use cloth masks to protect against infection spread in the community. In community settings, masks may be used in 2 ways. First, they may be used by sick persons to prevent spread of infection (source control), and most health organizations (including WHO and CDC) recommend such use. In fact, a recent CDC policy change with regard to community use of cloth masks (1) is also based on high risk for transmission from asymptomatic or presymptomatic persons (32). According to some studies, ≈25%–50% of persons with COVID-19 have mild cases or are asymptomatic and potentially can transmit infection to others. So in areas of high transmission, mask use as source control may prevent spread of infection from persons with asymptomatic, presymptomatic, or mild infections. If medical masks are prioritized for healthcare workers, the general public can use cloth masks as an alternative. Second, masks may be used by healthy persons to protect them from acquiring respiratory infections; some randomized controlled trials have shown masks to be efficacious in closed community settings, with and without the practice of hand hygiene (33). Moreover, in a widespread pandemic, differentiating asymptomatic from healthy persons in the community is very difficult, so at least in high-transmission areas, universal face mask use may be beneficial. The general public should be educated about mask use because cloth masks may give users a false sense of protection because of their limited protection against acquiring infection (16). Correctly putting on and taking off cloth masks improves protection (Table). Taking a mask off is a high-risk process (34) because pathogens may be present on the outer surface of the mask and may result in self-contamination during removal (31).
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Future Research Directions
More research on cloth masks is needed to inform their use as an alternative to surgical masks/respirators in the event of shortage or high-demand situations. To our knowledge, only 1 randomized controlled trial (4) has been conducted to examine the efficacy of cloth masks in healthcare settings, and the results do not favor use of cloth masks. More randomized controlled trials should be conducted in community settings to test the efficacy of cloth masks against respiratory infections. According to the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, more research on the engineering design of cloth masks to enhance their filtration and fit is needed (16). Moreover, various methods for decontaminating cloth masks should be tested.
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Conclusions
The filtration, effectiveness, fit, and performance of cloth masks are inferior to those of medical masks and respirators. Cloth mask use should not be mandated for healthcare workers, who should as a priority be provided proper respiratory protection. Cloth masks are a more suitable option for community use when medical masks are unavailable. Protection provided by cloth masks may be improved by selecting appropriate material, increasing the number of mask layers, and using those with a design that provides filtration and fit. Cloth masks should be washed daily and after high-exposure use by using soap and water or other appropriate methods.
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Dr. Chughtai is an epidemiologist working as a lecturer in the School of Public Health and Community Medicine, University of New South Wales, Australia. His research interests include epidemiology and control of infectious diseases, focusing on emerging and reemerging infections.
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Acknowledgments
C.R.M. is supported by a National Health and Medical Research Council Principal Research Fellowship, grant no. 1137582. C.R.M. receives funding from The National Health and Medical Research Council (Centre for Research Excellence and Principal Research Fellowship) and Sanofi. More than 5 years ago, she received funding from 3M for face mask research.
In 2011, A.A.C., H.S., and C.R.M. conducted a study that involved testing filtration of masks made by 3M. A.A.C. and C.R.M. have also worked with CleanSpace Technology on research of fit testing of respirators (no funding was involved).
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My research involves over 6000 passengers since March at reasonably close range, while having contact tracing apps on my personal phone, my work phone, and my drugs and hookers phone, and a washable mask since October. No symptoms, no contacts.
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My research involves over 6000 passengers since March at reasonably close range, while having contact tracing apps on my personal phone, my work phone, and my drugs and hookers phone, and a washable mask since October. No symptoms, no contacts.
You have indeed been Fortunate stay safe
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Policies and Guidelines Associated with Cloth Mask Use
Despite common use of cloth masks in many countries in Asia, existing infection control guidelines do not mention their use (13). However, some previous infection control guidelines have discussed use of cloth masks when medical masks and respirators are not available. For example, in an infection control guideline developed in 1998, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) recommended using cotton masks to protect from viral hemorrhagic fevers in low-resource healthcare settings in Africa if respirators or medical masks were not available (14). Similarly, WHO also discussed the option of using cloth masks to protect wearers from acquiring infection during the 2009 influenza A(H1N1) pandemic (15). In 2006, the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, prepared a report about the reusability of face masks during an influenza pandemic (16). The members were hesitant to advise against the use of cloth masks because of high mask demand during pandemics (16). As a result of the shortage of masks during the recent COVID-19 pandemic, CDC developed strategies for optimizing the supply of masks and recommended using homemade cloth masks when no medical masks are available (1). However, no guidance is provided for cleaning and decontamination of cloth masks, although standard washing in hot water with soap should be adequate.
It's also the advice of the American CDC, IoM, NAS & the WHO.
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Policies and Guidelines Associated with Cloth Mask Use
Despite common use of cloth masks in many countries in Asia, existing infection control guidelines do not mention their use (13). However, some previous infection control guidelines have discussed use of cloth masks when medical masks and respirators are not available. For example, in an infection control guideline developed in 1998, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) recommended using cotton masks to protect from viral hemorrhagic fevers in low-resource healthcare settings in Africa if respirators or medical masks were not available (14). Similarly, WHO also discussed the option of using cloth masks to protect wearers from acquiring infection during the 2009 influenza A(H1N1) pandemic (15). In 2006, the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, prepared a report about the reusability of face masks during an influenza pandemic (16). The members were hesitant to advise against the use of cloth masks because of high mask demand during pandemics (16). As a result of the shortage of masks during the recent COVID-19 pandemic, CDC developed strategies for optimizing the supply of masks and recommended using homemade cloth masks when no medical masks are available (1). However, no guidance is provided for cleaning and decontamination of cloth masks, although standard washing in hot water with soap should be adequate.
It's also the advice of the American CDC, IoM, NAS & the WHO.
The Question still remains unanswered .The QUESTION IS ...{.HOW OFTEN SHOULD YOU CHANGE YOUR MASK is it every 5km every 5 minutes every 5 days every 5 weeks .They can tell you how far you can walk they can tell you where to wear a mask but nobody had told us how often to change it .}
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At the start of all this shite, can't remember the source but I think the advice was 2 hours max. for disposable masks. By that stage, your breath could have dampened the mask and made it susceptible to ripping and/or letting the virus grow on the damp patch.
When I go back, since I won't be wearing it constantly, I'll probably do 2 changes a day but have the windows open as much as possible to minimize damp. One in the morning and one at lunchtime.
Now since you seem to be disappearing down the rabbit hole on this, I guess your next question is whether to loop it onto your left or right ear first. I don't know the answer to that. I do tie my right shoelaces first if that's any help.
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It's worth remembering that the mask is, primarily, to protect others from the pox that you are carrying. So if you are reasonably sure that you don't have the pox, keeping away from others is your best bet, if you are worried, rather than learning from more gifted people than yourself how/when to wash/dispose a mask, that subject being more complicated than rocket science.
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Cant be arsed reading all that but good to hear you're well, erm.
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Cant be arsed reading all that but good to hear you're well, erm.
Rodent I lost on the Darts had coin on the Dutch man anyhoo I asked after ten months did drivers know how often they should change their facemask based on Government guidance .I know stuff about short trousers and lacing me shoes but not 1 person knew the answer .
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Cant be arsed reading all that but good to hear you're well, erm.
Rodent I lost on the Darts had coin on the Dutch man anyhoo I asked after ten months did drivers know how often they should change their facemask based on Government guidance .I know stuff about short trousers and lacing me shoes but not 1 person knew the answer .
You keep asking the wrong questions.
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Artificial scarcity = increased demand (compliance) , Basic psychology & Basic marketing. they tell you that you may not be able to get it, so you will want all the more . suckers!
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My research involves over 6000 passengers since March at reasonably close range, while having contact tracing apps on my personal phone, my work phone, and my drugs and hookers phone, and a washable mask since October. No symptoms, no contacts.
Hi Bob...That 6000 figure has me ruffled...Ja mean 600??...Figuring this= 6000 in 10 months 600 a month....So take 10 euro as average fare....= Thats huge passenger cash.........Am I missing something here Bob ?
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My research involves over 6000 passengers since March at reasonably close range, while having contact tracing apps on my personal phone, my work phone, and my drugs and hookers phone, and a washable mask since October. No symptoms, no contacts.
Hi Bob...That 6000 figure has me ruffled...Ja mean 600??...Figuring this= 6000 in 10 months 600 a month....So take 10 euro as average fare....= Thats huge passenger cash.........Am I missing something here Bob ?
Working 365 days a year or less works out at 16/17 punters per shift.
That's a lot of contacts. Needs must I guess.
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You probably wouldn't believe me if I didn't attach evidence, erm... but I actually backed Clayton @ 16/1 before his quarter final.
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Of course I'm exaggerating, I was replying to JM.