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Title: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: john m on February 05, 2021, 05:07:47 pm
What a fucking useless Cunt she issues a statement that clears up fuck all for kids or parents ......


FRI, 05 FEB, 2021 - 17:01
JESS CASEY EDUCATION CORRESPONDENT
Leaving Cert students are to be given a choice between an exam and a different assessment process, the Minister for Education has announced.

Norma Foley, the Minister for Education, has announced this Friday that moving forward, planning for the State exams will include both the Leaving Cert exams, and a corresponding “non-examination process.” Bilateral discussions between the Department of Education and the education partners will begin immediately, she announced today.

A shared understanding has been reached between all parties on the challenges facing the State exams this year, the department said in a statement.

Confidential, bilateral discussions will now begin on developing two different processes for Leaving Cert 2021: planning for exam and scoping out a “corresponding measure”, different to examinations that can also be offered to students.

“Discussions on Junior Cycle examinations will continue in these engagements.” Noram Foley said: “The pandemic has impacted greatly on the learning experience of our Leaving Certificate 2021 students over the last year.

“We must provide our students with a clear way to progress to the next stage in life – further and higher education and training or the world of work.

I am inviting the education partners to now engage intensively with the department in planning for the next steps, to enable decisions to be made and to bring much-needed certainty for students.
“We will be actively planning both to hold the Leaving Certificate examinations, and to put in place a corresponding measure that can also be offered to students.

"Any corresponding measure should have the confidence of the education partners, she added.

Education Minister, Norma Foley issued an update on the Leaving Cert this afternoon. Picture: Niall Carson/PA Wire
Education Minister, Norma Foley issued an update on the Leaving Cert this afternoon. Picture: Niall Carson/PA Wire
“Last year a process was put in place that involved schools generating estimated marks and the application of a national standardisation process. This allowed students to progress.”

“Any corresponding measure this year would need to incorporate new features. In particular, the State Examinations Commission will need to be given the necessary legal powers to run the process.”

“It will also need to provide more comprehensively for students studying outside school,” she added.


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“Recognition of the skills and competences associated with orals, practicals and coursework should also form a clearer part of any such measure.”

“Due to the nature of the pandemic, and the need to always have regard to public health advice, in addition to planning actively to hold the Leaving Certificate examinations, it is necessary to have in place a parallel measure that can also be offered to students.”

The Department has indicated to the education partners that any corresponding process would need to include the following features:

• The State Examinations Commission running both the examinations and the corresponding process

• Better provision for out-of-school learners in the corresponding process

• Some cognisance of performance in “additional component” elements of examinations (coursework, orals, practicals, etc.)

• Timely progression to higher and further education using either examinations or the outcome of any corresponding process. 

 Minister Foley said: “To all examination students: I recognise that this is a difficult period for you. We are working hard to provide the best possible solutions, so you can progress as you wish and deserve.

“This next stage of confidential bilateral meetings with each of the partners is necessary to bring the work of the Advisory Group to a conclusion and forge a pathway for the students of 2021.

"I look forward to this engagement being completed in as short a timeframe as possible.”
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: Shallowhal on February 05, 2021, 05:18:19 pm
What time does the Dail bar open at?
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: john m on February 05, 2021, 05:19:15 pm
Can you imagine if you have a child worrying about their leaving cert and they ask you to explain what does this mean Da and how many points might I get and Can I do what I studied the last 5 years for ....Leaving Cert students are to be given a choice between an exam and a different assessment process, the Minister for Education has announced.

What Different assessment Process ? ::rant ::rant ::rant ::rant ::rant
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: Shallowhal on February 05, 2021, 05:29:43 pm
Ah shur,it'll be grand John...it'll all work out in the end....so it will!!

I don't think there's many leaving cert students asking..."Da,what does that mean?"
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: watty on February 05, 2021, 06:30:04 pm

What Different assessment Process ? ::rant ::rant ::rant ::rant ::rant


RTE Education reporter says that's what the students demanded - choice.
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: silverbullet on February 05, 2021, 06:40:24 pm
Ah shur,it'll be grand John...it'll all work out in the end....so it will!!

I don't think there's many leaving cert students asking..."Da,what does that mean?"
Everything Ermy tries to say, but shorter:
https://youtu.be/H-PSCqhkWhg 8)
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 05, 2021, 07:17:11 pm
It's a difficult one to balance, I guess. Nobody wants to discourage the youngsters from studying...
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: silverbullet on February 05, 2021, 11:11:31 pm
It's a difficult one to balance, I guess. Nobody wants to discourage the youngsters from studying...
If they don't go back to school soon they'll be murdered by their parents.
Although Justifiable homicide  should see the parents walk.
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: john m on February 05, 2021, 11:21:52 pm
A friend of Mine his Daughter took her own life worrying about the Exam .Its not a trivial matter .The Minister is useless is either taking it or giving it or just a patsy for FF west of the Shannon .She is useless .This FF government are the worst that ever held power even  Leo the Traitor was better .Look at what happened under FF led gov this years exams fucked up .Covid Fucked up .I would vote for Sf knowing they are murdering tugs in preference to FF or FG .and the rest are only in it for sound bites .
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: silverbullet on February 05, 2021, 11:26:31 pm
A friend of Mine his Daughter took her own life worrying about the Exam .Its not a trivial matter .The Minister is useless is either taking it or giving it or just a patsy for FF west of the Shannon .She is useless .This FF government are the worst that ever held power even  Leo the Traitor was better .Look at what happened under FF led gov this years exams fucked up .Covid Fucked up .I would vote for Sf knowing they are murdering tugs in preference to FF or FG .and the rest are only in it for sound bites .
Having avoided education up to now, what do you propose they should do? Not that they're listening! 8)
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 05, 2021, 11:31:41 pm
Do you think your support for SF could get them over the line and deliver the socialist Republic of our (forefathers') dreams, erm?

Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: stonethecrows on February 05, 2021, 11:33:28 pm
My youngest is in 5th year, doing the leaving next year.

Now apparently they supposed to do all the learning in 5th year and 6th year is mostly revision, what the fcuk is going to happen for next years leaving (I wonder!)
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 05, 2021, 11:38:57 pm
Loada bollix, 5th year is a doss year...
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: john m on February 06, 2021, 12:01:00 am
My youngest is in 5th year, doing the leaving next year.

Now apparently they supposed to do all the learning in 5th year and 6th year is mostly revision, what the fcuk is going to happen for next years leaving (I wonder!)

This is parenting Stone be there for them tell them its sorted .The big issue is they try to please you. Give them a hug we are old cynical cunts sculpted by life they dont have a fucking clue whats going on .Now is your time to be the parent they need .Best of luck to your kid with your support they will be Ok .I have an auctioneer who became a DJ in Ibiza .What thev fuck did I know just be there .
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: Shallowhal on February 06, 2021, 12:21:08 am
Our daughter is in 5th year but we've agreed to let her leave this year to take up a place in dance and drama college,she has to do two A level subjects as part of the course,Business is one of her subjects....can't remember the other subject....we had a long conversation about it but decided we weren't gonna trample over her dreams,she is very academic and exams aren't the be all and end all especially these days.
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: john m on February 06, 2021, 12:30:40 am
Hal never kill a mans Dreams as a mans dreams is all a man or girl has .Good parenting is helping kids to follow their path not yours .Hope she finds success just like your boy they are following their path in the arts our Folks would of slapped us if we said we wanted to act or sing instead of weld or spanner .If I had parents who supported my dreams I wouldnt be typing here and now .Best of Luck to her GO FOR IT .
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: Shallowhal on February 06, 2021, 12:44:13 am
Funny ye should mention that John but he packed up college in Dundalk and was gonna start in BIMM on Francis St but the whole college thing is fuked up so he decided he wasn't spending his coin on it so he got himself an apprenticeship(Carpenter)....he seems to be enjoying it...out the door at 7am every morning,Sat work curtailed during level 5.
Daughter can go back to education if she wishes,there's more opportunities now than just the group,inter and leaving cert.
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: john m on February 06, 2021, 12:50:02 am
Funny ye should mention that John but he packed up college in Dundalk and was gonna start in BIMM on Francis St but the whole college thing is fuked up so he decided he wasn't spending his coin on it so he got himself an apprenticeship(Carpenter)....he seems to be enjoying it...out the door at 7am every morning,Sat work curtailed during level 5.
Daughter can go back to education if she wishes,there's more opportunities now than just the group,inter and leaving cert.

I know one of his class mates no names but he quit as well .Think they thought it was a course to Stardom .Carpentry is an art form it has little to do with  a chop saw and a sliding bevel or mortice block .If he is happy then he has found his path .Nothing stopping him strumming or following his art .
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: Shallowhal on February 06, 2021, 12:54:42 am
He's still writing and playing but covid has played havoc as we all know.
Title: Re: The date and time for the leaving cert Not
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 06, 2021, 11:04:13 am
A lot of the expectations around the leaving cert comes from the parents and teachers.It's nowhere near as important as it used to be.Plenty of folks didn't go to college and make good money.You have yer whole life to go back to school.