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Title: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 07, 2021, 10:28:09 pm
 For the Punters name two horses to play and to to lay give a reason for both

Billaway 5/2 in the Hunters Chase .He is better than a Hunter not a great jumper but your getting paid for that @5/2 will have a Pro Jockey this time .No point to point racing in UK so British Hunters at a huge disadvantage (NAP)

Easyland 11/10 Cross Country race .Its a specialist race he won it last year potters Corner looks the only danger .


Lay

Kilcruit in the Bumper dont think he beat much to justify '15/8 Quote .

Shiskin @1/1 in the Arkle .This race will be run like drunks running down hill one jumping mistake and your chance is gone .Having watched him dont think he will enjoy racing at pace .


Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 08, 2021, 02:36:16 pm
Back

Shiskin - Arkle
Kilcruit - Bumper

Rationale: The erm's Lays.

Lay

Billaway - Hunters Chase
Easyland - Cross Country race

Rationale: The erm's Bets.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: markmiwurdz on March 08, 2021, 09:49:54 pm
Back

Shiskin - Arkle
Kilcruit - Bumper

Rationale: The erm's Lays.

Lay

Billaway - Hunters Chase
Easyland - Cross Country race

Rationale: The erm's Bets.
#

Fukkin brilliant... rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: markmiwurdz on March 09, 2021, 09:14:06 am
Back: Honeysuckle, just doesn't know when it's beaten and is about 5/2 in the Champion Hurdle,a revived Goshen is my only fear.

Santini E/W in the Gold Cup:Some day they'll get this horse right and they've allowed Aidan Coleman ride it the last couple of times to get used to it.


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Don't really lay bets but if I had to

Lay Elimay in the Mares Chase,only about a 6/4 shot in an open looking probably big field race,could be one of those mad 66/1 winner jobs.

Toss up between Billaway or Easyland for the other lay as I think they are too short and Easyland was poor last run.

Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 09, 2021, 11:17:13 am
Im on Billaway @ 7/1 put it up here when it was 9/2 as one to back for Cheltenham .Not the best jumper but has a turn of foot .

Champion Hurdle looks strong this year .Gold Cup looks more like a Saturday Handicap than a Championship race .Album Photo never gets the credit he deserves .The Mares Chase could contain anything like you said some two horse trainer with a 100/1 shot could get a result .


If Envoi Allen went really short like 1/2 I might lay him to lose .You never know if the move from Elliots just two weeks ahead of the race will upset him .I know he  has to train in special boots does he strike himself when Galloping he has had it all his own way around flat courses in Ireland .If they take him on in Cheltenham 1/2 would seem small odds .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on March 09, 2021, 03:03:02 pm
Back

Shiskin - Arkle
Kilcruit - Bumper

Rationale: The erm's Lays.

Lay

Billaway - Hunters Chase
Easyland - Cross Country race

Rationale: The erm's Bets.
rofl   rofl

I think it will be a year fer the outsiders, Covid has us all fooked up, even the horses.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 09, 2021, 06:12:09 pm
Have yis anything at working man's prices lads? A tenner a race is usually my budget, could be less this year with An Taoiseach's puppy dole cuts anall...

Bring back Dr. Leo. Dr. Leo was great so he was....
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Punter on March 09, 2021, 09:02:01 pm
Aidan Coleman has been minding himself for last few weeks --not going to have many rides--likewise Tom Scudamore-I will be happy enough to back either of these guys at a price to win any race, while at the same time not committing to much while giving you an interest !
I often throw a few quid at the placepot --leaving out the hotpots--yet to have success but still got great runs for small dough !
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 09, 2021, 10:02:27 pm
Have a look at this race .PROBABLY the worst race ever ran under rules .1/25 Favourite who hasent won a race in years .  https://www.paddypower.com/horse-racing/catterick/3m1f-nov-chs-2021-03-10/30339393.1540 (https://www.paddypower.com/horse-racing/catterick/3m1f-nov-chs-2021-03-10/30339393.1540)
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: markmiwurdz on March 09, 2021, 10:15:05 pm
1/8 on betfair,some difference.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 09, 2021, 10:19:45 pm
All 5 of them look like a sitting room suit for Gordon Elliott .I left out the Fav and done the Field in combo F/C .Worst race I have ever seen run on a racecourse and the worst fav Iv ever seen .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 09, 2021, 10:37:05 pm
Have yis anything at working man's prices lads? A tenner a race is usually my budget, could be less this year with An Taoiseach's puppy dole cuts anall...

Bring back Dr. Leo. Dr. Leo was great so he was....


Try this E/W tomorrow @100/1 you might get 1000/1 on betfair ..DATE   
DIST.   GNG.   WGT / HDGR      SP   JOCKEY   OR   TS   RPR
23Nov20
Musselburgh C5HcH 3K   3m   Gd   9-11 v   4/10 btn 16L Pakie's Dream 11-12   25/1   D McMenamin3   72   8   63
13Nov20
Newcastle C5HcH 3K   2m7½f   Gd   9-11 v1   8/14 btn 24L The Black Squirrel 11-4   200/1   D McMenamin3   78   33   63


4th only beaten 16 lenghts is top form in this field  8th of 14 beaten only 24 lenghts .Tiger Roll was beaten by a furlong and people thought he ran a great race .

Strategic E/W .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on March 10, 2021, 10:45:57 am
Aidan Coleman has been minding himself for last few weeks --not going to have many rides--likewise Tom Scudamore-I will be happy enough to back either of these guys at a price to win any race, while at the same time not committing to much while giving you an interest !
I often throw a few quid at the placepot --leaving out the hotpots--yet to have success but still got great runs for small dough !
I always include the favs in my perm placepots, but hope that they are unplaced. There is no point in getting 5 outsiders placed and then a hot pot gets up to let you down.
The most important thing about placepots is just to keep it alive.
I'm contemplating going large this year on the placepot.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Shallowhal on March 10, 2021, 11:58:24 am
Ken Cashman goes large.....there's a NetSkinflix series in there....somewhere!!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 10, 2021, 05:02:16 pm
All 5 of them look like a sitting room suit for Gordon Elliott .I left out the Fav and done the Field in combo F/C .Worst race I have ever seen run on a racecourse and the worst fav Iv ever seen .

You stupid f**kin c**t!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Shallowhal on March 10, 2021, 05:06:08 pm
All 5 of them look like a sitting room suit for Gordon Elliott .I left out the Fav and done the Field in combo F/C .Worst race I have ever seen run on a racecourse and the worst fav Iv ever seen .

You stupid f**kin c**t!

What race is that in....and at what price?
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 10, 2021, 05:13:10 pm
Aidan Coleman has been minding himself for last few weeks --not going to have many rides--likewise Tom Scudamore-I will be happy enough to back either of these guys at a price to win any race, while at the same time not committing to much while giving you an interest !
I often throw a few quid at the placepot --leaving out the hotpots--yet to have success but still got great runs for small dough !


I've a similar approach myself.... and cover the Jackpot (now that we can with UK bookies on tinternet) for a smaller stake. Reminds me of an old punting friend, always said put a pound on the accumulator just in case... rang me one day and says he landed the placepot with 6 winners... did you..., says I... no I fucking didn't, says he... simultaneously we said "it'll never happen again"!

Funny enough the best placepot I ever landed was up the road in Bellewstown a few years back. None of my selections were outsiders and it paid €414 - €828 for my €2 unit stake (€16 total)  http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=8972.msg70592#msg70592 (http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=8972.msg70592#msg70592)
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 10, 2021, 05:16:22 pm

You stupid f**kin c**t!

What race is that in....and at what price?

They can be found in every bookies shop in the country backing in every race!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Punter on March 10, 2021, 05:33:03 pm
Tote Ireland gives you access also---

Matter of interest --Racing Post available online from 3am--1.99 Stg might be better value than 3.50 Eu it currently is --they have a habit of jacking the price Day 1 of Chelt.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 10, 2021, 05:35:28 pm
Wasn't Tote Ireland taken over by one of the UK bookies? I had 34c in an account and recall them sending me a message telling me to lose it by a specified date (maybe a year or so back) or lose it!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Shallowhal on March 10, 2021, 05:37:50 pm
So ye lost it then? lol
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 10, 2021, 05:40:59 pm
I didn't and I did, Hal. I forgot to lose it by the specified date so I assume it's lost!

I've always been more a fan of Timeform than The Post, Punter - albeit reluctantly since it was acquired by paddypower. They're bombarding me with offers and "freebies" atm but I haven't paid much interest to any of it. These days, other than Cheltenham, I don't back horses unless I'm at the course and I don't look at the card/form until the night before at the earliest!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Punter on March 10, 2021, 08:11:06 pm
In my punting/racing days I got the Irish Form Book every week --worth its weight in gold and when I stopped I resorted to the Timeform Black Book for the big meetings in UK--then I got some sense after 7 years in Family Law Courts and minus a small fortune --now I rely on watching and stats !
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 11, 2021, 05:23:15 pm
The only sustained success I had with punting was when someone on here drew my attention to Oddschecker - which was new to me. I wrote an app that scraped all the early prices and scraped timeform ratings and other statistical data via the ATR subscription site. The app done all the "study" based on quantifiable variables and told me what to back every evening before racing, largely exploiting overpriced selections. Unfortunately, one by one, all the bookies (with the sole exception of Bet365) closed my accounts or restricted them to the point of impotence. I wasn't winning any great fortune or placing huge bets. In fact my unit stake was €50. You'd think they woulda let me have the few notes for letting them know they're overpriced!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Punter on March 11, 2021, 07:01:07 pm
Long time ago my nephews did something similar but where it scarped all the exchanges ,a few mates threw in 5 k each for accounts with each exchange--they bet/layed   on each as a margin allowed but never took an opinion just operated on profit --when I saw in in action they had a tank of 150k with a profit of 120k --then as ever two of the four started to have opinions so nephews cashed out as they are not punters--they coped about 60k for no risk --the exchanges let them operate as they were really market makers for them but they did up the commission for professionals ! 
 
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 11, 2021, 07:43:44 pm
Betfair have an API for users. It used to be free but they've started charging for it now. I did experiment with it on US sports (MLB, NBA, NHL) a few years ago when it was free. It was pretty cool, put the money in your account and your phone (in my case) done the rest. However, as it was dealing with just one exchange you did have to programme with price:select criteria which, in my case, didn't prove profitable so I lost interest. However, the fact that they're charging for API access proves that you're probably betting against computer programmers as much as against other punters these days.

Far cry from the days when the exchange in the IFSC - Betdaq, I think - used to wine, dine and freeroll prominent market makers!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Punter on March 11, 2021, 08:55:10 pm
I often took the guys in and out --when on the night shifts, so they amended a/c you operate commission free and put you in for all the freebies/promos---disappeared when Chronicle /Ladbrokes got involved--
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 11, 2021, 10:24:31 pm
I was involved about 20 years ago when they started to accept the Irish Placepot in bookie shops  .You would wait till there were four or five certainties to be places then go to the races and feed money into the pool leaving out one of the good things in every combo just in case they got beaten you could get some of your coin back .Then go into the off course shops and place your bets after you had stacked the pool .The pool was always small under £1000 as you could only bet placepot on course and the money in the shops never went back .We put 700 into the pool one Wednesday at Leopardstown all six favs were placed 5 of them odds on paid just over 38/1 real odds about 9/4 we took out a nice touch then went in again .Next time 4 good things all placed and we went 3x3 in the other races paid 158/1 real odds about 9/1 ..Then Powers Copped on what was occurring and stopped taking the Irish Placepot .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 12, 2021, 11:50:19 am
Back

Shiskin - Arkle
Kilcruit - Bumper

Rationale: The erm's Lays.

Lay

Billaway - Hunters Chase
Easyland - Cross Country race


I hope you lumped on to Shishkin @1/1 Rodent the second favourite is out makes things a lot easier .

Rationale: The erm's Bets.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2021, 08:59:10 pm
Did I fuck.. Like I said, I don't look ahead of the night before racing. I had a look at the other race you put up during the week. Fortunately, I was too late to get on as it had gone in-play... as you know with satellite/www delays in-play from home is a mug's game. I did learn something though... you don't need to have a bet to watch the racing on Betfair. It loaded the player for me and I think the last bet I had with them was on Gary Anderson for the world championship back in December.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Punter on March 13, 2021, 10:03:36 pm
Its a well your busy Rat as you can watch any race live on any bookmaker site for months once you log in --think of all that PUP you saved tru ignorance --wish I could say the same for myself !
6 races a  day live on ITV watch the last on your bookmaker site for free--not that anything is "free-now "
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 14, 2021, 11:25:28 pm
Have a tiddle on this ...10. Leoncavallo
33/1
19th Mar CHELTENHAM Cheltenham 19th March - Each Way
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Punter on March 15, 2021, 05:17:19 am
I was going to back it Sat but got stuck in traffic---Pipe did that double so many times !
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Punter on March 15, 2021, 12:18:49 pm
POWERS have a free 5 bet on first tomorrow --I fancy John Joes --Soaring Glory pissed in last day --

Racing Post upped in price as usual 4.50--its not that its too expensive ,90% of it not relevant and cheap newsprint ruins your hands--got their online deal last year for 3 mths it was a joy but wouldn't pay full price sub !
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 15, 2021, 01:25:12 pm
Henderson withdrew Alteor he said he was coughing ..What about the rest of his string ?  The Arkle and the Champion have become easier for the Favs .So has the Stayers .All right if you were betting with No runner no bet but not all books were offering that .I backed Mullins one against Shishkin he is a NR I got my cash back .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 15, 2021, 06:34:19 pm
Its a well your busy Rat as you can watch any race live on any bookmaker site for months once you log in --think of all that PUP you saved tru ignorance --wish I could say the same for myself !
6 races a  day live on ITV watch the last on your bookmaker site for free--not that anything is "free-now "

Indeed. I used to go through the occasional gambling phase when I had both racing channels on my IPTV but that's gone now.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on March 16, 2021, 11:32:46 am
I didn't go large on the placepot today but I did have a bit of a flutter.

(https://i.postimg.cc/rKqfdpHJ/thumbnail-IMG-0451.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rKqfdpHJ)
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 16, 2021, 04:36:07 pm
Cheltenham
Placepot prize fund: £493,467 Races: 1:20 1:55 2:30 3:05 3:40 & 4:15
Status: Result. Dividend of £5.80 to a £1 stake won by 83836.81 units.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 16, 2021, 06:43:45 pm
I had a reasonable start to the festival, a fiver down for the day. Onwards and downwards!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 16, 2021, 06:51:55 pm
I think you've only .8 of a winning line there Ken... returning less than a fiver?
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 16, 2021, 10:41:37 pm
When Mullins thing was a non runner Shiskin was a cert had one bet for the day Shiskin @7/1 to win by 10 lenghts or more .Wouldnt back Tiger Roll with a stolen Checkbook .If the fav wins he wins by a country mile .Bet is Easysland To Win By 15 Lengths Or More @12/1 .They are still betting the distance believing Potters Corner will run ....he wont .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 17, 2021, 03:56:00 pm
SENSATIONAL  tiger roll i didnt give him a chance
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 17, 2021, 05:01:16 pm
Jockies win races horses just do what they are told .Easyland won this race last year by 17 lenghts by doing exactly what tiger Roll did today jump off in fronr but today he was held up at one point was nearly a fence behind .What the fuck is going on why would you change a winning formula ?
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 17, 2021, 05:17:21 pm
If only you had a stolen chequebook, eh erm?

I had a fantastic day, finishing €25 ahead plus three free tenner bets on the way for opening an account with Quinnbet. Only the one winner, Put The Kettle On @17/2... I knew I shoulda backed Tiger Roll... had to be the bet of the year after the erm's analysis, I doubt we'll ever see a more convincing winner of any race ever again!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 17, 2021, 05:21:14 pm
Woulda had the placepot for a single stg£2 stake if the third in the first race had finished second (or first!)... ah well, better to fall at the first hurdle than the last I guess!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Punter on March 17, 2021, 09:04:24 pm
Racing Post website  --UPDATED 7:28PM, MAR 17 2021

LATEST BET OF A LIFETIME
Punter ponders £275,000 cash-out offer as first four win in amazing £5 acca
Envoi Allen: carries the hopes of a Betfair punter who stands to win more than £500,000
Envoi Allen: carries the hopes of a Betfair punter who stands to win more than £500,000
Patrick McCann (racingpost.com/photos)
1 of 1
By Stuart Riley
UPDATED 7:28PM, MAR 17 2021
 
What would you do if you had a £5 accumulator rolling on to Envoi Allen for more than half a million pounds and the bookmaker you struck the bet with offered you £275,000 to call it quits?

You'd let it ride, right? It's only £5. When are you ever going to get a chance like this again? Envoi Allen's a 1-2 shot and only has to turn up for £511,225.

But it's horseracing, anything can happen. Everyone said Chacun Pour Soi was home and hosed. And when you think about it, really think about it, £275,000 is an awful lot of money. A life-changing amount of money. With no risk. It's just sitting there with your name on it, you only have to say yes. Suddenly it's not so straightforward, is it?

For you and me this is only a hypothetical exercise, but for Paul Dean, 40, that has very much been the reality ever since Bob Olinger's success in the Ballymore.

Asked if he intends to sleep on the decision, the undecided Dean quips: "I'm going to drink on it first!"


Bob Olinger, who he had at 25-1, was the fourth leg of five in a bet that was struck when the sport returned in June.

Dean got off to a great start at Royal Ascot when Golden Horde (12-1) and Hello Youmzain (10-1) won the Commonwealth Cup and Diamond Jubilee Stakes.

All winter long the ever-shortening Shishkin (4-1), aforementioned Bob Olinger and Envoi Allen (9-2) have built the anticipation, and results this week have been favourable.

Legendary Cheltenham gambles:

Noel Furlong: 'I had £300,000 on Destriero and I had a lot on the double'

Unsinkable Boxer: 'This is the biggest certainty that will ever walk out on to this racecourse'

"I've had a good week so far," says Dean. "I put it on at the beginning of June and I didn't realise Betfair had a max £250,000 payout, but Barry Orr said they'll honour the full bet, which is really good of them as I was gutted at first.

"Initially, it was offering me a cash-out of £182,000 for that reason but they've offered me £275,000. I haven't decided what to do yet.

"The thing is, if I cash out I haven't got Envoi to cheer on, whereas if I can get enough money together myself to lay part of it off so I've a good win anyway but I'll win a lot more on Envoi, that's what I'd ideally want as I want to be cheering him on.

"Half the people are telling me to cash out, the other half are telling me to let it ride. My phone's going absolutely wild. The fact Envoi had switched from Gordon [Elliott] was a concern, but Sir Gerhard and Galvin have changed stables and won, so that's a bit less of a worry."
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Lizzzy on March 17, 2021, 09:11:55 pm
I'd let it ride.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 17, 2021, 10:09:46 pm
Simple really .If you had £275.000 in readies would you go into Ladbrokes plonk it and a docket on the counter to have the whole lot on Envoy Allen ?If the answer is yes let it run if the answer is no cash out .I would cash out .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on March 18, 2021, 04:28:37 am
Fer the let it ride merchants.
See 'Gerry's accumulator'.
http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=8031.0 (http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=8031.0)
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on March 18, 2021, 04:53:56 am
As the Envoi Allen bet is such high profile then what I would do in his situation is to look fer a reputuble bookmaker to back Envoi Allen with him at about 4/6 fer about 120K to win 80K all done on TV (Bookies love publicity) and with contracts signed.
That way he would still hold a 431K docket and if the horse loses then at least he has 120K, Win Win fer him.
The bookie can then offer top price on Envoi Allen in the knowledge that he has him backed to win 80K at 4/6, Win Win fer the bookie (+ the free press).







Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on March 18, 2021, 05:01:03 am
I think you've only .8 of a winning line there Ken... returning less than a fiver?
Worse, only .4 of a winning line returned 2.32 fer me 86.40 stake.
With all 6 favs placed I knew it would be a shitty dividend but I wasnt expecting it to be that bad.
Funny game the placepots !
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on March 18, 2021, 06:57:46 am
...... I had a fantastic day, finishing €25 ahead plus three free tenner bets on the way for opening an account with Quinnbet......
I took your advice Stephen and opened a Quinnbet account and lodged me Tenner.
I had a look at the in-play markets and put me Tenner on some Belarus table tennis player @ 6/5, Two minutes later he was 6/10, and a further 5 minutes later he was bate out the gate !
But at least I have secured my 3 x Tenner Free bets (after 4pm) tomorrow, a few poxy EW Burgular bets on the 2nd favs over the next 7 days and hopefully I can turn it in to a Nifty.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 18, 2021, 11:44:57 am
The erm's advice really, Ken. I'd never heard of Quinnbet until he mentioned it last week. Strangely enough I had my tenner deposit on my only winner of the day, Put the Kettle on, settled @ 17/2 and then lost a tenner on the fav in the last... silly bet at the price but I just wanted an excuse to watch the race, I guess. Anywaysanall, just checked my account and my 3 free bets are there.

I opened an account with the new Tote (tote.ie but redirects to tote.co.uk) this morning to have a risk free tenner on a placepot... but can't deposit funds until they verify my ID. They have an automatic online process that didn't work (possibly because my driving licence expiry date is 13/03/21 - extended to Jan '22 on account of COVID '19) so I had to email the documents and play the waiting game.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 18, 2021, 12:10:44 pm
Simple really .If you had £275.000 in readies would you go into Ladbrokes plonk it and a docket on the counter to have the whole lot on Envoy Allen ?If the answer is yes let it run if the answer is no cash out .I would cash out .

If you backed it at 9/2, would you want to back it at 1/2 or whatever it is now? I'd be laying off... at least enough to guarantee 3 figures.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 18, 2021, 05:08:53 pm
Bit more like it today... dropped €66 and my 3 free tenners.... a couple of seconds is as good as it got.

I think all the little fellas have more interest in looking at Rachael's arse than riding horses. Probably the only winner a lot of them can ever hope to ride.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on March 21, 2021, 07:26:58 pm
The erm's advice really, Ken. I'd never heard of Quinnbet until he mentioned it last week. Strangely enough I had my tenner deposit on my only winner of the day, Put the Kettle on, settled @ 17/2 and then lost a tenner on the fav in the last... silly bet at the price but I just wanted an excuse to watch the race, I guess. Anywaysanall, just checked my account and my 3 free bets are there.....
@ Stephen,
Please in future always mention if the erm is involved in anything.
I opened my account on your advice, backed some table tennis player @ 6/5 who was 6/10 Two minutes later but got beaten, but still secured my 3 x Tenner free bets.

I had a Fiver EW burgular double on Two 2nd favs against odds-on shots.
No more free bets allowed on the same sport so I had a Tenner on Bilbao @ 1.75 in the early afternoon la liga match.
And threw the last Tenner on some Quinn bet boost thing.

Bilbao were a goal up after 10 minutes and now trading at 1.24.
And then I read your post on here, in alarm I checked the Bilbao score, 1-1. !!
The First of my burgular selections a 4/1 shot in a hurdle with a 2/5 fav was unplaced.
The Quinn bet boost thing was beaten and Bilbao played out a 1-1 draw.

I defo gotta close that Quinn bet account, it's jinxed fer life !!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Shallowhal on March 21, 2021, 07:48:16 pm
Ermy sittin in big dommos pigeon loft skullin scrumpy jack and stickin pins in voodoo dolls of us all!!
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 21, 2021, 07:59:36 pm
The 66/1 shot I put up last November .Joan of Arc is now third favourite for the Guinneas .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Punter on March 21, 2021, 08:27:39 pm
Best of luck with it J,I did try and get on but no luck at big prices --that said the 2nd today @80/1 cost 5k and the fourth @ 33/1 cost  2k but price doesn't make a champion but it does cast a doubt  !
Fingers crossed !
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 21, 2021, 09:29:03 pm
Best of luck with it J,I did try and get on but no luck at big prices --that said the 2nd today @80/1 cost 5k and the fourth @ 33/1 cost  2k but price doesn't make a champion but it does cast a doubt  !
Fingers crossed !


Down to run in 3 weeks @ leopardstown in the guineas trial .5th home was group 3 placed last year ?
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on March 21, 2021, 11:33:57 pm
The 66/1 shot I put up last November .Joan of Arc is now third favourite for the Guinneas .

Out of respect fer you John M I opened a 'Mr Play' online account (possibly the slowest site ever !) and lodged me Tenner to get 15 in free bets. I had me Tenner on some Russian table tennis player @ 11/10 and he Won !!  And then withdrew the 21 Euro and had the Free 15 bucks on Joan of Arc @ 10/1.
So I'm up 11 Euro and have a Free bet on the go, Saul Good !
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 21, 2021, 11:46:21 pm
I like Powers 3/1 leo to not be leader of FG on June 1st .The man who hires casual labour says FG have lost the support of the Irish Independent a traditional FG mouthpiece and if its true that the Early School leaver Harris did say to Garda that he refused to LEAK the document .The fear in FG is that there is no such charge as Leaking a Document the criminal charge is espionage or Spying to you and me a few Senior People want Leo to stand aside .He recons Covney might appear on the Radio tomorrow to be questioned about threats to him and Leo and if asked does he still support Leo he might not express his supporth to forcefully .Powers refused to Lay me .Nobody available to accept my bet ring back tomorrow when the Political traders are in the office.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on March 22, 2021, 12:06:12 am
I like Powers 3/1 leo to not be leader of FG on June 1st .The man who hires casual labour says FG have lost the support of the Irish Independent a traditional FG mouthpiece and if its true that the Early School leaver Harris did say to Garda that he refused to LEAK the document .The fear in FG is that there is no such charge as Leaking a Document the criminal charge is espionage or Spying to you and me a few Senior People want Leo to stand aside .He recons Covney might appear on the Radio tomorrow to be questioned about threats to him and Leo and if asked does he still support Leo he might not express his supporth to forcefully .Powers refused to Lay me .Nobody available to accept my bet ring back tomorrow when the Political traders are in the office.
I'll take your bet John M.
Three Oner's on Leo Not to be leader of FG on 1st June 2021.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 22, 2021, 12:13:35 am
100 to win 300 I take that .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on March 22, 2021, 01:05:40 am
100 to win 300 I take that .
Grand your 'ON', a ton @ 3/1 Leo Not to be leader of the FG party by/on the 1st June 2021.
We settle up by IBAN or Paypal because the IOU's do my head in cos I always forget about them.

Just a little tempter fer ya John M, do yiz want another Ton @ 9/2 on the same bet ?
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: silverbullet on March 22, 2021, 11:46:42 am
A leadership contest in the middle of a pandemic is a non runner (if you'll pardon the pun).

Machiavellian plots are difficult to achieve via Zoom. 8)
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on March 22, 2021, 01:18:40 pm
A leadership contest in the middle of a pandemic is a non runner (if you'll pardon the pun).

Machiavellian plots are difficult to achieve via Zoom. 8)

Wont be a contest Silver Leo will stand aside until the matter is sorted Covney will take over .Harris is supposed to have informed the Gards that he refused to LEAK the document to Leos Boy Toy .If Harris broke cover his chances of winning a leadership contest would be damaged .IF and its a BIG IF the covid figures break 1000 a day again and that looks likely then FF might sacrifice Leo for a diversion of the failing Vaccine and Lockdown Fuckology .Covney was due on RTE this morning but cancelled dosent want to be asked in public to back the Handsom Gay Indian Doctor against charges of Treason .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: silverbullet on March 22, 2021, 01:35:04 pm
A leadership contest in the middle of a pandemic is a non runner (if you'll pardon the pun).

Machiavellian plots are difficult to achieve via Zoom. 8)

Wont be a contest Silver Leo will stand aside until the matter is sorted Covney will take over .Harris is supposed to have informed the Gards that he refused to LEAK the document to Leos Boy Toy .If Harris broke cover his chances of winning a leadership contest would be damaged .IF and its a BIG IF the covid figures break 1000 a day again and that looks likely then FF might sacrifice Leo for a diversion of the failing Vaccine and Lockdown Fuckology .Covney was due on RTE this morning but cancelled dosent want to be asked in public to back the Handsom Gay Indian Doctor against charges of Treason .
Coveney has been conspicuous by his absence.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: stonethecrows on March 22, 2021, 10:16:32 pm
What do you call a policewoman who shaves her pubes?



Cuntstubble
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 23, 2021, 05:15:44 pm
Wasn't a bad year, all told. Small loss on trhe last day left me around €60 down.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on April 30, 2021, 06:53:46 am
The 66/1 shot I put up last November .Joan of Arc is now third favourite for the Guinneas .

Out of respect fer you John M I opened a 'Mr Play' online account (possibly the slowest site ever !) and lodged me Tenner to get 15 in free bets. I had me Tenner on some Russian table tennis player @ 11/10 and he Won !!  And then withdrew the 21 Euro and had the Free 15 bucks on Joan of Arc @ 10/1.
So I'm up 11 Euro and have a Free bet on the go, Saul Good !
What ever happened to yer wan Joan of Arc, I don't see her in the betting anymore ?
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on April 30, 2021, 07:25:55 am
100 to win 300 I take that .
Grand your 'ON', a ton @ 3/1 Leo Not to be leader of the FG party by/on the 1st June 2021.
We settle up by IBAN or Paypal because the IOU's do my head in cos I always forget about them.....
Not looking too hot fer you so far John M, I'll offer you a little tempter as we still have a month to run on this bet.
You can 'Cash out' this weekend and pay a Nifty loss, or you can hold out ?
(Offer open till 11.59pm this Sunday night 2/5/21).
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on April 30, 2021, 10:19:38 am
Tell me where to send that 50 .Ill cash out .Still think Leo is in bother but when .?
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on April 30, 2021, 10:58:23 am
Tell me where to send that 50 .Ill cash out .Still think Leo is in bother but when .?
Cash out confirmed, no idea where to send dosh to ??
BIC, IBAN, PAYPAL ??
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on April 30, 2021, 11:34:47 am
Ask korki if he has revolute ?
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on May 01, 2021, 08:20:53 am
Ask korki if he has revolute ?
Me Chungwan has revolute, I'll text ya her number,
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on May 02, 2021, 09:26:47 am
That Revolute says payment pending let me know if you dont get it ........As I said its just a matter of time .Former Fine Gael TD Kate O’Connell has been interviewed by gardaí as a witness in the Leo Varadkar leaked document investigation, while party colleague and TD Bernard Durkan is due to meet officers this week to provide a sworn statement.

Ms O’Connell was interviewed by detectives from the National Bureau of Criminal Investigation (NBCI) at a south Dublin station last Tuesday, it is understood.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Punter on May 02, 2021, 07:14:20 pm
I gather he has let it be known that he will go when he has done some of his stint as Taoiseach--hence an orderly transition--reckon Harris will succeed as Coveney appears a bit insipid--that is off course nothing damming comes of the leak enquiry ,which is doubtful as there is a FG Minister for Justice !
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on May 02, 2021, 11:26:31 pm
The way I heard it he is bolloxed its just a matter of time before the Gards interview the right person .Murphy has fucked a real spanner in the Works Chu will look for the Nomination if she dosent get it the Greens will split if she gets it the Greens will split .Same goes for FG if the wrong person gets the Nomination Kate O Connell is anty Veradkar but they are pushing a local councillor .Leo might just decide to step aside before he is kicked .Sunday  Indo have a story they are sitting on .This By election might not happen .Private poling says O Connell cant win for FG ,Chu cant win for Greens ,Shinners cant win .Labour cant win .Chu might run for Social Dems and not the Greens .Lucinda Crighton might run as an Independent .FF are looking for a celebrity Candidate dont rule out Dr Luke O Neill with a promise of Health Minister if he wins .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Belker on May 03, 2021, 10:42:41 am
That Revolute says payment pending let me know if you dont get it .........
Got it by Paypal John, and Thanks. Apologies fer all the messing up on my side.
If'n your coming down fer the Chrimbo bash in Cork next Jan, then you will be eating fer Free !
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Bob Shillin on May 03, 2021, 03:09:48 pm
The way I heard it he is bolloxed its just a matter of time before the Gards interview the right person .Murphy has fucked a real spanner in the Works Chu will look for the Nomination if she dosent get it the Greens will split if she gets it the Greens will split .Same goes for FG if the wrong person gets the Nomination Kate O Connell is anty Veradkar but they are pushing a local councillor .Leo might just decide to step aside before he is kicked .Sunday  Indo have a story they are sitting on .This By election might not happen .Private poling says O Connell cant win for FG ,Chu cant win for Greens ,Shinners cant win .Labour cant win .Chu might run for Social Dems and not the Greens .Lucinda Crighton might run as an Independent .FF are looking for a celebrity Candidate dont rule out Dr Luke O Neill with a promise of Health Minister if he wins .
Would be astounded if Luke O Neill had any interest in politics. He would be mad to get involved in that. Nice house in Sandycove, academics salary, and pension, free to develop drugs on university time, sell them for large profit, plays in a band, writing books. Mr horizontal, he wouldn't want the stress. I would say that his interest is in science not the health service.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on May 03, 2021, 03:18:20 pm
The way I heard it he is bolloxed its just a matter of time before the Gards interview the right person .Murphy has fucked a real spanner in the Works Chu will look for the Nomination if she dosent get it the Greens will split if she gets it the Greens will split .Same goes for FG if the wrong person gets the Nomination Kate O Connell is anty Veradkar but they are pushing a local councillor .Leo might just decide to step aside before he is kicked .Sunday  Indo have a story they are sitting on .This By election might not happen .Private poling says O Connell cant win for FG ,Chu cant win for Greens ,Shinners cant win .Labour cant win .Chu might run for Social Dems and not the Greens .Lucinda Crighton might run as an Independent .FF are looking for a celebrity Candidate dont rule out Dr Luke O Neill with a promise of Health Minister if he wins .
Would be astounded if Luke O Neill had any interest in politics. He would be mad to get involved in that. Nice house in Sandycove, academics salary, and pension, free to develop drugs on university time, sell them for large profit, plays in a band, writing books. Mr horizontal, he wouldn't want the stress. I would say that his interest is in science not the health service.

EGO Robbie he got a taste of Greasepaint and studio lights .I see the man who complained about Leo releasing documents has been named ..Chay Bowes, the man at the centre of a complaint to the gardaí about the leaking of a confidential GP contract by then taoiseach Leo Varadkar to his friend Dr Maitiú Ó Tuathail, is also considering a run and says he lived in the constituency "for years" and has received a "huge amount of support".
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on May 03, 2021, 03:39:32 pm
Interesting I had heard Chey Bowers didnt exist it was a nondeplume Interesting to see if he enters the fray and comes out in public .The real story behind the whistleblowing was more to do with Leos refusal to help instead of who he helped . Did Murphy run for the hills before the shit hits the fan .If you could get a bet on this I would bet an Independent wins it .The people being proposed are a cast of clowns .Bachec for Labour has seen more failures in politics than a Mayo Football team .Be great to see Eamon Dumphy having a go .
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 03, 2021, 08:26:26 pm
Not much evidence of any interest in science on Prof. O'Neill's part. Drugs, definitely...
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: Bob Shillin on May 04, 2021, 01:34:31 am
Not much evidence of any interest in science on Prof. O'Neill's part. Drugs, definitely...
2 books, several papers.
Title: Re: Cheltenham
Post by: john m on May 04, 2021, 08:06:06 am
Not much evidence of any interest in science on Prof. O'Neill's part. Drugs, definitely...
2 books, several papers.


He is a rock and Roll Professor Robbie the China Cough gave him time in the Spotlight .He could leave the College with big pension and get another pension as a TD .