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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Sean306 on April 29, 2021, 10:17:50 pm
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Everyones got their own opinion of when things could get back to being busy. I'm saying Xmas could be Very busy. Your opinions?
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We can but hope Sean......but John will be along soon to pull the rug from under us!!
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I say we will be back before Hollowed Ian.... yay
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Everyones got their own opinion of when things could get back to being busy. I'm saying Xmas could be Very busy. Your opinions?
3 post Sean where u from
It won't be busy if ur in Leitrim
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Unless half the fleet are gone it wont be back .CIE and Irish Rail are trading insolvent .The money will flow into public transport more busses more frequent Luas and Dart .Greens pumping coin into rent a bike and scooter .We still dont know if working from home will become a regular thing .My personal view a lot of renters will give up .The cost of rental and with so much work being handled from Free Now if you take all the costs into account you would need to be doing at least 800 a week to take home minimum wage .As soon as Free Now realise how desperate lads are for work the freight will go up .Im looking at something else .
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CIÉ was always insolvent Johnny....funded by tax Always was... always will be.....
Anyway I've made 17 quid since Monday..... One job again.....
The only way I can get any sort money is by ferrying drunkin youths at nite. At the weekend who refuse to wear Ther masks or act civilised an I can't be having that .. Getting too old for that shite..... An im not vaccinated
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CIÉ was always insolvent Johnny....funded by tax Always was... always will be.....
Anyway I've made 17 quid since Monday..... One job again.....
The only way I can get any sort money is by ferrying drunkin youths at nite. At the weekend who refuse to wear Ther masks or act civilised an I can't be having that .. Getting too old for that shite..... An im not vaccinated
Occi the Greens and now the rest are Greenwashing everything .I recon 24 hour bus service will be introduced with id cards and pay by card to identify who is on board and reduce hassle .The big issue will be traffic congestion as the Bike lanes reduce roadspace by 33% .If the Greens get their way most of the City center will be a no go area .Its a fucking joke one trick ponies The future is in Sandal and Yogurt sales .
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Celebration of life to make up for the lack of a good send-off should generate a few shekels. I'm with Octy, too many retards and drunken spastics around unwilling to mask up thinking they're great and complain when you ask them politely first, then violently next to behave.
I was in Aldi earlier and there are retards walking around unmasked. If you add in staff who just have the mask over their mouth...well! and that about sums up the current customer base.
A rising tide floats all boats as the cliche goes. Pity the likes of Ermy won't cast off from his moorings.
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Are they still running the 24hr bus routes?.....there can't be anyone on them...and as Octy says...there were always heavily subsidised.
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Unless half the fleet are gone it wont be back .CIE and Irish Rail are trading insolvent .The money will flow into public transport more busses more frequent Luas and Dart .Greens pumping coin into rent a bike and scooter .We still dont know if working from home will become a regular thing .My personal view a lot of renters will give up .The cost of rental and with so much work being handled from Free Now if you take all the costs into account you would need to be doing at least 800 a week to take home minimum wage .As soon as Free Now realise how desperate lads are for work the freight will go up .Im looking at something else .
There could be a silver lining in this for us.
1. Buses are relatively expensive these days. I think it's approx €3 each way. So someone could be paying €30/week to get into work. If working from home takes off and people are still afraid of the virus, they (esp women) might spend that €30 on taxis to get into the office 2 or 3 days a week instead of a filthy infected bus?
2. If Dublin Bus runs out of money, they might have to cut route frequency. So instead of a bus every 15 minutes, it might be every 30 minutes. Might push people to get taxis out of boredom?
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Dublin City Center will be a Green Maze with one way and pedestrian streets .If they block Dame street and College Green late at night it will be carnage .The North Quays 33% is given over to bike lanes .That will piss us off but it will also piss the punters off .Sheila from the flats is after getting picked up in Pygmalion and Franko wants to get her back to his gaff in Marino ,good luck keeping her interested on that taxi journey .You manage to get a taxi at the back of the Green Center now with Merrion Row blocked its up Camden street and try to get across the river at the ferryman with a solid line of taxies all going your way and a Garda on a scooter waiting @ the 5 lamps to get you if you do a bogey right .The biggest fuckup for us will be the punters wont bother coming into a gridlocked City Center they will stay local or stay home .
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Unless half the fleet are gone it wont be back .CIE and Irish Rail are trading insolvent .The money will flow into public transport more busses more frequent Luas and Dart .Greens pumping coin into rent a bike and scooter .We still dont know if working from home will become a regular thing .My personal view a lot of renters will give up .The cost of rental and with so much work being handled from Free Now if you take all the costs into account you would need to be doing at least 800 a week to take home minimum wage .As soon as Free Now realise how desperate lads are for work the freight will go up .Im looking at something else .
There could be a silver lining in this for us.
1. Buses are relatively expensive these days. I think it's approx €3 each way. So someone could be paying €30/week to get into work. If working from home takes off and people are still afraid of the virus, they (esp women) might spend that €30 on taxis to get into the office 2 or 3 days a week instead of a filthy infected bus?
2. If Dublin Bus runs out of money, they might have to cut route frequency. So instead of a bus every 15 minutes, it might be every 30 minutes. Might push people to get taxis out of boredom?
Who mentioned Dublin Bus ?It will be privatised with less terms and conditions for workers .The most expensive part of running a bus service is the investment in the Bus .Planes and ships dont park up overnight neighter do trucks .Old out dated work practices .Look at the Spar on the corner of Dame Street ,Georges Street it dosent have a front door as it is never closed .Dont be surprised to see the likes of Tesco in Ballyfermot closing as the Big shop in Liffey valley is under utalized and people are now use to home deliveries .
I think when the pubs reopen we will have a boom few months but then people will look at prices .4 glasses of wine costing 24 euro with a bottle to drink at home for 7 and 6 pints costing 30 notes throw in a taxi thats 70 notes but when you had the same gargle at home it cost 15 euro from Aldi,Lidil ,Tesco ,Spar,Supervalue and you dont have to listen to everybody's pandemic stories .There could be a huge shift from people with their socializing .Lads our age like the pub but im not sure the Cocaine Generation give a fuck we also like fine dining again Pizza delivered by a chimp on a bike is prefered by younger people .
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Who mentioned Dublin Bus ? <snip>
You did... about 12 hours ago! (CIE = Dublin Bus, Bus Eireann & Irish Rail)
Unless half the fleet are gone it wont be back .CIE and Irish Rail are trading insolvent .The money will flow into public transport more busses more frequent Luas and Dart .Greens pumping coin into rent a bike and scooter .We still dont know if working from home will become a regular thing .My personal view a lot of renters will give up .The cost of rental and with so much work being handled from Free Now if you take all the costs into account you would need to be doing at least 800 a week to take home minimum wage .As soon as Free Now realise how desperate lads are for work the freight will go up .Im looking at something else .
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Re the pubs. I can still see people going to the pubs, even if it's just to get out of the house. Not everyone has a house has nice as yours ( :P ) and it will have felt like a jail cell for the past 14 months. People will pay anything to get out for a few hours.
It's like the cinema. Who goes for the movie? It's, what, €70 or €80 for a family to go to the cinema nowadays. if it shuts the kids up for an hour or two, parents are happy to pay it.
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All the teachers, an guards, an nurses, an doctors an civil servants are up at least 20 grand in savings whilst the self employed entrepreneurs are down 20 grand in savings.......
Wenne the lockdown is lifted the civil servants be out thrown Ther money away like confetti just to empower themselves again an get out an about in the pubs an restaurant...... Weel bé lookin at a boom in business for Cople weeks.... Then they'll all go back to the late late show an bottle's of lidls plonk, doritos an garlic dip.... An a bit of hows yer father at home......
Most of the nation have no need or desire to go near a pub again........ They learned how to drink twice as much at home in Ther pyjamas for a fifth of the price.......
These also bein trained to do Ther shopping online so no taxi
Trips from brown Thomas anymore.... Ther Also bein told by Ther international employers that it cost a fraction for them to work at home cause Ther providing Ther own lighting, heating an WiFi an the company doesn't need to rent that skyscraper anymore at 2 million a week..... The cost of air travel will go beyond the range of the masses for environmental reasons an for them recoop Ther loses temporarily
........ Ón top of That freenow scooters on the way, an yu can buy a scooter that'll bring yu into work in half the time of a taxi,... the green party closing the access to the city and forcing everyone use an scooter or bicycle..... Its already apparent that the only work you'll get is drug dealers at 2 in the morning or bringing 20 sumtin home pissed as a fast, puking, shitein in yur car an given yu grief an stress......
.... The Word " Bolloxed" comes to mind
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Everything will be grand.Many of us won't want to sign off the PUP until we're sure there is enough work.So there will be a gradual return and before ya know it we will be complaining about the traffic again.
Remember there was just as much moaning and crying on here before the pandemic(mostly Erm).At least this time the government allowed us to collect the PUP. Realisically unless it's chopped completely I won't be returning but I'll be keeping an eye on things and I'll renew my plate for now.The prospect of earning 120 a week after expenses doesn't appeal at all.
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Them 24 hour busses are mad. I can see one every hour passing bye.
No one in them at night but the students are packed into them again for college.Traffic is mad....Lockdown me arse. Even Pennys opening up on May 17...Cant wait to get a few frilly knickers;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; for the missus
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I know my missus has been spending her petrol money on online shopping.....i was thinking of charging her a euro for every delivery i pick up at the front door and bring it to her in her workspace....oh and starting her car and bringing it for drives to keep it running....had to jump-start it twice.
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Re the pubs. I can still see people going to the pubs, even if it's just to get out of the house. Not everyone has a house has nice as yours ( :P ) and it will have felt like a jail cell for the past 14 months. People will pay anything to get out for a few hours.
It's like the cinema. Who goes for the movie? It's, what, €70 or €80 for a family to go to the cinema nowadays. if it shuts the kids up for an hour or two, parents are happy to pay it.
They will at first but like getting married the novelty wears off after a while .Paggo was on the box squirming when asked about paying back the covid coin .Porter is going up they will increase the duty and say its a health issue same with smokes and fuel .Brexit will have an effect and just plain old greed Publicans,hotels,restaurants will price themselves out of the market trying to recoup losses .I remember the late 70s early 80s ques a few hundred long waiting in Werbough Street and Gardner Street to sign on .My estimate is at least 17% unemployment this time next year and thats not good for any business except the drug dealers .Think the Covid Crisis has masked a lot of other issues .Deliveroo has moved people from restaurant tables to their gaff table with food to the door ,every shop except the Church sells Porter .Netflix is the new cinema .Even Zoom means you no longer need to visit your granny you can talk to her on a tablet .Gyms and Coffee Shops due to reopen so what 3.80 for a cup of coffee and 50 a month for a gym .Paddy wont pay that and the foreign low paid workers dont have the money as they dont have jobs .This time round young Irish kids cant go to england for work they are as fucked as we are the States and Australia dont want us .Leo ,Mick from Cork and Mary from the Navan Road will be trowing around the keys to the Taoiseachs office quicker than a handfull of steaming shite when this Covid Curtain is gone and people realise how fucked up things are .In the 80s there was a sort of deal with the Welfare they signed fellas over 55 on to illness benefit to doctor the unemployment figures but it also meant that older lads would not be competing with youngfellas for jobs afraid to lose their money .You know my opinion of Leo he is a Traitor and a fuckwit .He broke with the EU and did a side deal with Boros that will lead to trouble and killings in the North that he will have to live with and the EU will beat the shit out of us and our tax fiddle as punishment .In mondays New York Times Professor Joe Stiglits a Nobel Economist called out Ireland as a tax haven ,the Yanks are tired of their big companies fiddling their taxes and the Likes of Ireland operating as money mules .I think Irish American President Joe Biden will be like every other irish man Irelands biggest enemy .History of this country is more damage done to the Irish by the Irish than anybody else .Here is a reality check acording to the IMF Ireland is the most indepted country per capita in the world .Put simply every Irish citizen owes the international lenders a pile of coin and Tax is the only way to repay .
We lived in a false economy for the last 30 years eating out two or three cars per household .Telly in every room phone in every pocket minimum wage under a tenner an hour ,we have been playing pass the parcel but the music is going to stop and this and the next and the generation after them will have to pick up the bill .Said it before anybody born between 1950 and 1980 in Ireland were the luckiest people ever born on this Island we were the golden generation .
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LOOK AT THIS BOLLOXOLOGY HOW CAN YOU RUN A BUSINESS
Taoiseach Micheál Martin said the move to allow 50 people at wedding ceromonies was to remain consistent with the number allowed to attend religious services.
Under new Government guidelines set to be implemented on May 10, up to 50 people could attend a wedding service, both civil and religious.
However, only six people can attend an indoor reception and 15 people can attend an outdoor reception. In addition, 50 people will also be permitted to go to a religious service.
Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland today, Mr Martin addressed this discrepancy, saying that large gatherings at weddings have always been a safety concern.
“It’s very tough - the idea of the service is to be consistent,” he said. “If we have 50 at religious services generally, you then will have an anomaly if you want to allow 50 at the wedding services, be it religious or non-religious. Or indeed at the funerals and that.
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Poor Sean306 is probably after killing himself.
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Poor Sean306 is probably after killing himself.
If he did how many can attend his funeral and can they go to his wake .If only 6 are allowed in doors will he have to carry his own coffin into the church .Do herses have a screen between the driver and the box .Will the Greens ban cremation due to emissions .Which undertaker will be the first with an electric hearse to try corner the Nut munchers market .If you have a Bagpiper at your funeral is that an outdoor concert and which limits apply now .
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Poor Sean306 is probably after killing himself.
If he had said return to full trade by the May bank holiday....then maybe!!
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I turned off the press breifing yesterday after 2 minutes.Nothing has changed.They're all guidelines.People just want to know when the pubs are opening up and when the PUP will be fazed out.Until then go back to sleep.
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Poor Sean306 is probably after killing himself.
rofl
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I woke up yesterday morning with a cold on me....... Sórt throat, cough, aches in me arms an legs.... And i got the scuttors...... Not because I had a virus but because I was absolutely shiteing meself that I had the covid........ Now How the fcuk in the name of jaysus did the common cold slip tru the lockdown social distance Joe Duffy "wash yur hands obstacles net ??? ::sleep
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IDEA .What if we start our own church and the Rat becomes the Bishop and the rest of us become ordained ministers .Now we ring Louie Fitzgerald and Paris Hiltons Grandad and we say look lads you know how you can have 50 at a Religious event !Well for a fee we will attend your hotel and sit at the tables with up to 50 guests and we will say grace that way the eating and drinking becomes a religious enactment of the Miracle where Jesus fed the Multitude with just a modern menu and the changing of water into wine will be reenacted by watering the gargle so by hiring us the event has become a religious event as well as a knees up .Hal can play the drums Ill sing and Dollyer can strum a few strings for the dancing later on before everybody goes to bed and we can re enact the raising of Lazarus the next morning by knocking on the Doors to wake them up .Ken can do that ..We could charge a few grand for our holy service Im sure the Church and the priest get a dropsey off the Bride and Groom .
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IDEA .What if we start our own church and the Rat becomes the Bishop and the rest of us become ordained ministers .Now we ring Louie Fitzgerald and Paris Hiltons Grandad and we say look lads you know how you can have 50 at a Religious event !Well for a fee we will attend your hotel and sit at the tables with up to 50 guests and we will say grace that way the eating and drinking becomes a religious enactment of the Miracle where Jesus fed the Multitude with just a modern menu and the changing of water into wine will be reenacted by watering the gargle so by hiring us the event has become a religious event as well as a knees up .Hal can play the drums Ill sing and Dollyer can strum a few strings for the dancing later on before everybody goes to bed and we can re enact the raising of Lazarus the next morning by knocking on the Doors to wake them up .Ken can do that ..We could charge a few grand for our holy service Im sure the Church and the priest get a dropsey off the Bride and Groom .
Johnny.... Yu know the naked cowboy in new york is net worth 50 million from just wearin a cowboy hat and American flag drawers........ Well Why don't yu yu stand at the bottom of grafton Street dressed only in yur tricolour underpants an a leprechaun hat an offer
Jockey backs to the green shouting" begorra top of the mornin to ya"
Yid clean up
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Be a change from standing at the bottom of his stairs in his piss stained Y fronts shoutin for his eggs bendict from his missus!!
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Be a change from standing at the bottom of his stairs in his piss stained Y fronts shoutin for his eggs bendict from his missus!!
Waiting for the pictures to open:
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Brokeback Johnny!!
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Brokeback Johnny!!
Johnny's a player!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zHVFXorF38 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zHVFXorF38) 8)
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Great song!!
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I can see Sean down in woodies buying rope
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Will Wet pubs open in July ? Im going with NO .How many at the All Ireland final .5000 max .There you go Hal more good News from me I havent been wrong so far .
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if the fuckin same fear porn narrative is maintained that this malarkey is'nt all a loada bollocks then the kip is destined for a further series of continuous lockdowns.
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I woke up yesterday morning with a cold on me....... Sórt throat, cough, aches in me arms an legs.... And i got the scuttors...... Not because I had a virus but because I was absolutely shiteing meself that I had the covid........ Now How the fcuk in the name of jaysus did the common cold slip tru the lockdown social distance Joe Duffy "wash yur hands obstacles net ??? ::sleep
Perhaps you didn't wash your hands.
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Which Christmas though?
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With Orgone Iron open for business expect a lot of dead Donegallians.
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Who mentioned Dublin Bus ?It will be privatised with less terms and conditions for workers. The most expensive part of running a bus service is the investment in the Bus.
Have to disagree with ya on this part....
The bus isnt the most expensive part... wages for drivers is, even with reduced terms and conditions.
I agree with you that the writing is on the wall. The Government, rather than getting into any industrial relations argy bargy with the CIE unions, have adopted a slowly slowly approach and will erode Dublin Bus and Bus Eireanns Market share down to the point where unions will no longer have the same influence or power.
Go Ahead are a private operator on a fixed contract like the Luas operators and they have a different approach to industrial relations and the drivers are less militant and less likely to stop working in support of their fellow drivers in CIE.
Back to disagreeing on the bus part...
Say the bus costs €300k with a conservative working lifetime of 10 years. So that is €30k a year or approx €600 a week or approx €85 a day. Then allow 30% on top for insurance, maintenance etc. Thats approx €120 a day.
Whereas drivers conservatively cost about €25 an hour (When total cost of Wages, holiday pay and Employer PRSI is taken into account).
So on the 10 hour day for the bus it costs €120 compared to a minimum of €250 for the driver and that is being conservative. I would say the hourly rate is much higher for CIE drivers with any sort of service.
Just saying.
I didnt allow for fuel but thats probably another €50 a day (based on my experience driving a truck) and probably less with the new eco buses and fuel subsidies.
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So busses are dear to run...Im missing the point?
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I woke up yesterday morning with a cold on me....... Sórt throat, cough, aches in me arms an legs.... And i got the scuttors...... Not because I had a virus but because I was absolutely shiteing meself that I had the covid........ Now How the fcuk in the name of jaysus did the common cold slip tru the lockdown social distance Joe Duffy "wash yur hands obstacles net ??? ::sleep
Ya got the pox Octy. Go get tested !
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So busses are dear to run...Im missing the point?
I won't answer for what point M was making but my point was that I disagreed with his opinion that the most expensive part of running a bus service is the investment in the bus. I backed up my opinion with information.
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If you dont have the bus you dont have any business you can hire casual labour and only pay for fuel when you drive .Therefor the most expensive part of running the business is the initial investment anything else is just costs related to operating . My point was that if you have the bus you wont make any money parking it up over night .Run the fuck out of it .You might run empty for a while but as soon as people realize its reliable they will use it .Look at the Luas they have added carrages to the original offering .
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So busses are dear to run...Im missing the point?
I won't answer for what point M was making but my point was that I disagreed with his opinion that the most expensive part of running a bus service is the investment in the bus. I backed up my opinion with information.
I worked as a mechanic on the buses uwha.... Dont forget the land used for maintenance in the garages all in prime locations for development..... Donnybrook I'de alone is worth at least a hundred million....ciontarf problaly 50 million then look at all the depots an garages round the country and your talking billions in assets, Yur forgetting the corruption that's going on....the Potentiall for Brown envelope is Fukin off the scale a bonanza that cud put any politician up Ther wit the kinihans in the wealth stakes .. Ther threatening to reduce (steal) me pension now cause they sayin they can't afford it..... Its Fuk all but it's mine......Anyway i dont know how much it costs per bus The cost of maintenance, and wages
Doesn't really come into it....... Its about land grabbing......
And the go bus drivers will be on minimum wage with Fuk all pension or sick pay or free doctors or free travel throughout Europe or as many holidays and they'll be all immigrants who work for buttons........ Profit profit profit at the expense
Of the citizens..... Capitalism Thatcher an Reagan style........ Stick it up the working man's arse...... More poverty, more selling the people's land to developers and foreign banks to the highest bidder with the biggest. Brown envelope....... And
More homelessness degradation..... Wer going back to dickens days.........
Gimme a Fukin gun an a uniform an 2 alstations
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You seeing the Big Picture Occi trow millions at the bus game then sell it off as a going concerne but retain the Garages they are the wealth same will happen with Trains they will sell off the rolling stock but retain the mainlines the wealth is in the stations and rail lines .Talking to a Lad who told me the Army and Navy are fucked well undermanned as 64% of the military budget goes on Pensions .Army sold off most of the barracks around the country to fund pensions .We send Soldiers overseas so the UN pay the wages .Pensions are a killer for the economy .School teachers and Guards who got index linked final income pensions in the 50s and 60s are getting more in pension than they earned per week when working .I often wonder if like France we might move on to a Second Republic and just default on every existing pension or debt liability .Occi I live in a working class area recon we have 1.5 or more cars per household .,Where I was brought up there were only two cars among about 300 houses .As Charlie Haughey said we living above our means .I dont know if my Grandchild has ever been on a CIE bus ?
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You seeing the Big Picture Occi trow millions at the bus game then sell it off as a going concerne but retain the Garages they are the wealth same will happen with Trains they will sell off the rolling stock but retain the mainlines the wealth is in the stations and rail lines .Talking to a Lad who told me the Army and Navy are fucked well undermanned as 64% of the military budget goes on Pensions .Army sold off most of the barracks around the country to fund pensions .We send Soldiers overseas so the UN pay the wages .Pensions are a killer for the economy .School teachers and Guards who got index linked final income pensions in the 50s and 60s are getting more in pension than they earned per week when working .I often wonder if like France we might move on to a Second Republic and just default on every existing pension or debt liability .Occi I live in a working class area recon we have 1.5 or more cars per household .,Where I was brought up there were only two cars among about 300 houses .As Charlie Haughey said we living above our means .I dont know if my Grandchild has ever been on a CIE bus ?
The pensions are just a thacther excuse Johnny..... The country is run by criminals..... Even the gardaí are paid by the drug dealers........... By the way.... How's that James hospital looking? that so far has cost 400million or sumtin an not even a shite pipe laid
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2.6 billion at the moment Occi and thats only the build cost another billion or more to fit it out .Whatever happened to the site they paid millions for to build a new Northside Prison ? Wait till we see the Bill for needeling renting out needle hubs like the Aviva or City west and how much per needle are Doctors getting paid .Certain people will have made millions out of this Pandemic .Company paid to collect used needles and swabs must be on at least a million a week .Headline in the paper will be HSE spends coin on taxis but try find out how much the waste disposal gets and you will be told that is sensitive trading information and cannot be released .
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DO you remember it OCCI 50 million for a field ...
Plans for a large prison on the Thornton Hall site are again under consideration as part of a €175 million upgrade of the country’s prison facilities.
The upgrade and extension plans are part of the Irish Prison Service’s (IPS) goal to end the practice of “slopping out” in the near future. The service is also expecting further increases in the prison population over the next five years.
The 67-hectare Thornton Hall site near Swords in north Dublin was once the planned location of a “super-prison” capable of holding 2,200 prisoners. However, it has remained vacant since an agreement with a private developer collapsed 12 years ago.
More than €50 million was spent on the site but no significant construction work on the proposed prison took place.
Since then it has been under the control of the Department of Justice. In 2019, the department offered some of the site to the Land Development Agency to build homes to ease the housing crisis.
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Remember the 50 million voting machines Johnny?
Think the travellers done a deal on them to get rid them
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You know that Go Ahead don't actually own any busses?They are all provided by the NTA .Go Ahead are just an operator.
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You know that Go Ahead don't actually own any busses?They are all provided by the NTA .Go Ahead are just an operator.
Jesus ???
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So busses are dear to run...Im missing the point?
I won't answer for what point M was making but my point was that I disagreed with his opinion that the most expensive part of running a bus service is the investment in the bus. I backed up my opinion with information.
I worked as a mechanic on the buses uwha.... Dont forget the land used for maintenance in the garages all in prime locations for development..... Donnybrook I'de alone is worth at least a hundred million....ciontarf problaly 50 million then look at all the depots an garages round the country and your talking billions in assets, Yur forgetting the corruption that's going on....the Potentiall for Brown envelope is Fukin off the scale a bonanza that cud put any politician up Ther wit the kinihans in the wealth stakes .. Ther threatening to reduce (steal) me pension now cause they sayin they can't afford it..... Its Fuk all but it's mine......Anyway i dont know how much it costs per bus The cost of maintenance, and wages
Doesn't really come into it....... Its about land grabbing......
And the go bus drivers will be on minimum wage with Fuk all pension or sick pay or free doctors or free travel throughout Europe or as many holidays and they'll be all immigrants who work for buttons........ Profit profit profit at the expense
Of the citizens..... Capitalism Thatcher an Reagan style........ Stick it up the working man's arse...... More poverty, more selling the people's land to developers and foreign banks to the highest bidder with the biggest. Brown envelope....... And
More homelessness degradation..... Wer going back to dickens days.........
Gimme a Fukin gun an a uniform an 2 alstations
I get what you are sayin and I agree. It is slow wind down of Dublin Bus to avoid union stand offs and at the end they will sell that bus garages off just like they sold off most of the army barracks. You are bang on about the Go Ahead lads too, thats why the goernment brought a private operator in. The drivers in Go Ahead dont see it. Best thing for all bus drivers in every company is to stick together but what are the chancees of that.
John made the point that he thought the buying or investing in abus was most expensive part of a bus service. My point was that it wasn't. There are loads of costs involved as you said but wages is the biggest part and not just in Dublin Bus. (But semi state service pay and benefits makes it the best, at the moment anyway)
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You know that Go Ahead don't actually own any busses?They are all provided by the NTA .Go Ahead are just an operator.
Thats right and the same applies to the Luas and Dublin Bus. Might be indirect through CIE but NTA are the bosses, everyone else is a service provider.
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So busses are dear to run...Im missing the point?
I won't answer for what point M was making but my point was that I disagreed with his opinion that the most expensive part of running a bus service is the investment in the bus. I backed up my opinion with information.
I worked as a mechanic on the buses uwha.... Dont forget the land used for maintenance in the garages all in prime locations for development..... Donnybrook I'de alone is worth at least a hundred million....ciontarf problaly 50 million then look at all the depots an garages round the country and your talking billions in assets, Yur forgetting the corruption that's going on....the Potentiall for Brown envelope is Fukin off the scale a bonanza that cud put any politician up Ther wit the kinihans in the wealth stakes .. Ther threatening to reduce (steal) me pension now cause they sayin they can't afford it..... Its Fuk all but it's mine......Anyway i dont know how much it costs per bus The cost of maintenance, and wages
Doesn't really come into it....... Its about land grabbing......
And the go bus drivers will be on minimum wage with Fuk all pension or sick pay or free doctors or free travel throughout Europe or as many holidays and they'll be all immigrants who work for buttons........ Profit profit profit at the expense
Of the citizens..... Capitalism Thatcher an Reagan style........ Stick it up the working man's arse...... More poverty, more selling the people's land to developers and foreign banks to the highest bidder with the biggest. Brown envelope....... And
More homelessness degradation..... Wer going back to dickens days.........
Gimme a Fukin gun an a uniform an 2 alstations
I get what you are sayin and I agree. It is slow wind down of Dublin Bus to avoid union stand offs and at the end they will sell that bus garages off just like they sold off most of the army barracks. You are bang on about the Go Ahead lads too, thats why the goernment brought a private operator in. The drivers in Go Ahead dont see it. Best thing for all bus drivers in every company is to stick together but what are the chancees of that.
John made the point that he thought the buying or investing in abus was most expensive part of a bus service. My point was that it wasn't. There are loads of costs involved as you said but wages is the biggest part and not just in Dublin Bus. (But semi state service pay and benefits makes it the best, at the moment anyway)
Autonomous cabs will be profitable when the driver is taken out of the equation, seeing as that's the biggest cost.
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If you dont have the bus you dont have any business you can hire casual labour and only pay for fuel when you drive .Therefor the most expensive part of running the business is the initial investment anything else is just costs related to operating . My point was that if you have the bus you wont make any money parking it up over night .Run the fuck out of it .You might run empty for a while but as soon as people realize its reliable they will use it .Look at the Luas they have added carrages to the original offering .
Fair enough, it just the way you said it and I had done a bit of research on the cost of running buses years ago, so it stood out when you said it.
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Very Good interesting posts U Wha, you really seem to know your stuff.
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Here is another little know fact .When NAMA sold the Conference center they said to the purchaser that if they did not turn over 30 million a year that Nama would make up the shortfall .Now you know why they moved the Dail to the Conference Center. The Dail was to small for ALL the TDs to take their seat and social distance .AH WHAT THE FUCK I hear you say .Is the conference Center large enough for every TD to sit down and Social distance NO ITS NOT .
THIS IS BRILLIANT ..Sittings of the Dáil and Seanad in the Convention Centre in Dublin are “an abject waste of taxpayers’ money”, a Government backbencher has said.
Fianna Fáil TD Marc MacSharry said Leinster House had all the necessary facilities and, with a “pinch of imagination”, the authorities could avoid “needlessly wasting” the daily €25,000 cost to host Oireachtas sittings at the 2,000 seat centre.
He was speaking as the Dáil passed the new Government’s first piece of legislation, after a two-day debate.
The Microenterprise Loan Fund (Amendment) Bill aims to enhance supports to small businesses during the Covid-19 crisis. It provides for increased funding to Microfinance Ireland (MFI) the agency that lends up to €50,000 to businesses with nine employees or fewer that cannot access bank finance.
MFI last week had to suspend loan offers because €16 million or 80 per cent of the €20 million limit had been allocated.
The legislation also increases from €75 million to €500 million the cumulative limit on schemes for small and medium-sized enterprises that are funded through the European Investment Fund.
Mr MacSharry said the savings from the Convention Centre sittings could be used instead to support small business during the Covid-19 crisis.
He said the use of the Convention Centre as an “abject waste of taxpayers’ money”.
Dáil sittings have been held in the Convention Centre because of social-distancing requirements, initially to allow all 159 TDs attend to vote on the appointment of the Taoiseach and the new Cabinet on July 4th.
No rent is charged for the use of the facility but when the centre was chosen in April in the early stages of the pandemic, the daily estimated cost was put at €50,000. The cost has since reduced to €25,000 with a once-off charge of about €110,000 to install microphones.
The Convention Centre is not charging the Oireachtas for use of the building and the costs mainly relate to staffing and broadcast technology.
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The new Seanad, which has had two sittings since its full 60 complement were approved, has operated in the Convention Centre and while the Dáil sat in Leinster House on Tuesday its remaining sittings this week are in the Convention Centre.
Those chairing sessions in the auditorium have expressed difficulty in seeing speakers and TDs being late for Dáil debates or missed speaking slots because of meetings in Leinster House.
Mr MacSharry said that in Leinster House, “each of us has our self-incubation unit (office) with a monitor in front of us to watch proceedings and with some will and just a pinch of imagination, we could have a fully functional Oireachtas on the campus where it was intended to be rather than needlessly wasting €25,000 a day down here.
“We have all the facilities required and if we just employed that pinch of imagination, we could all be back up on Kildare Street doing our work as people expect.”
In the debate on the legislation, Minister of State Damian English rejected an amendment by Sinn Féin spokeswoman Louise O’Reilly for loans to be interest free for the first 12 months and to cap rates at 2 per cent thereafter following criticism of the 4.5 per cent to 5.5 per cent rates charged by MFI.
He said the rate had been cut from 7 per cent or 8 per cent to 4.5 per cent and with the six-months interest-free break there is an effective rate of 3 per cent “which is quite manageable for most business.
ITS ALL IN HOW YOU READ IT THE CONFRENCE CENTER DONT CHARGE THEY DONT HAVE TO AS NAMA HAVE A DEAL WITH THEM ALREADY .Some republic .
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Just re read some of the report on the Public Private Partnership involved in the Confrence center .How many more of them are there in road building ,Bus and train and Luas where service providers have a guaranteed income .Hard for us to compete with a bus that has its running costs covered by government wages part funded probably exempt from tolls no nine year rule .Those PPPs look like a licence to print money .Listened to Anne Graham from the NTA her idea is to promote public transport and walking and cycling at the expense of driving .
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A lot of the Toll Roads outside of Dublin get a top-up from (Govt/NTA?) because they don't make enough money.
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Get a look at the Popes visit 200,000 to RENT a marquee .QUARTER OF A MILLION TO RENT PORTA POTTIES .We are in the wrong Game .