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Title: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Billy boy on January 14, 2022, 07:16:51 pm

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Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Bob Shillin on January 14, 2022, 08:13:03 pm
They've obviously done a lot of number crunching to come up with that one, no doubt in their favour, but in the face of BOLT competition.
At €69 they've already got 12.5% of €559 of fares, or 15% of €460 of fares whether you do them or not, and 12.5% of your remaining ac fares, and then appealing to drivers who might prefer there not to be a record of cash fares. The % of ac fares must now be very high, and no doubt will be "encouraged" more in the future by FN.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Billy boy on January 14, 2022, 08:23:22 pm
It's cab 2000s new fare structure. Forgot to mention that
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: John m on January 14, 2022, 08:24:54 pm
FFS Robbie BOLT are not Competition nor are UBER they are poachers poaching your work to sell back to you .
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Bob Shillin on January 14, 2022, 08:41:06 pm
FFS Robbie BOLT are not Competition nor are UBER they are poachers poaching your work to sell back to you .
As is every cab company. They will say that they add value to the experience of the passenger, and the driver.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Jack Meoff on January 15, 2022, 08:34:25 am
Delighted
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Shallow Hal on January 15, 2022, 12:37:52 pm
Delighted

Is that sarcasm Jack......Cork shtyle?
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Shallow Hal on January 15, 2022, 12:40:44 pm
It's cab 2000s new fare structure. Forgot to mention that

Thanks BB.....I was wondering why I wasn't being bombarded with in app,email and text messages from FN!!
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Jack Meoff on January 15, 2022, 02:29:50 pm
Delighted

Is that sarcasm Jack......Cork shtyle?

Thought it was for FN
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: silverbullet on January 15, 2022, 07:02:02 pm

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RC will be all over that like a cheap suit. 8)
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 16, 2022, 01:47:13 pm
Is C2K still 97.36% cash?
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Billy boy on January 16, 2022, 07:59:54 pm
Is C2K still 97.36% cash?
yes....but apparently they have merged with vip that are 97.36% account.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 17, 2022, 03:11:11 pm
I'd imagine most C2K drivers would recognise and avoid the VIP work... unless they want something to propel them back into the cash rich circuits. I guess the thinking is that they might otherwise browse the likes of Free Now when looking for something coming back so they can save 2.5% by staying in-house?

Not having a record of cash jobs will obviously appeal to those wishing to evade income tax.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: silverbullet on January 17, 2022, 06:30:16 pm
I'd imagine most C2K drivers would recognise and avoid the VIP work... unless they want something to propel them back into the cash rich circuits. I guess the thinking is that they might otherwise browse the likes of Free Now when looking for something coming back so they can save 2.5% by staying in-house?

Not having a record of cash jobs will obviously appeal to those wishing to evade income tax.
Didn't you say City manage to hide driver's earnings from Revenue, Whereas Free now is 100% transparent?
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: vandriver on January 17, 2022, 07:28:21 pm
Revenue can of course just raise a reasonable estimate and leave it up to you to fight it.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 19, 2022, 02:45:52 pm
Drivers who work for City are technically self-employed, SB. As such City have no hand, act or part in taxation or relevant disclosure of their income. Conversely, Free Now frequently advertise the wages available to drivers working for that firm and highlight the ever growing so-called gig economy within which it operates.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: silverbullet on January 20, 2022, 02:35:56 pm
Drivers who work for City are technically self-employed, SB. As such City have no hand, act or part in taxation or relevant disclosure of their income. Conversely, Free Now frequently advertise the wages available to drivers working for that firm and highlight the ever growing so-called gig economy within which it operates.
An average brief could drive a coach and six through that argument.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 20, 2022, 03:07:51 pm
It's not an argument. Self-employed men have always been required to submit their own tax returns. The same regime currently applies to men who work for Free Now. However, Free Now issues it's drivers with payslips detailing all work completed for the firm including the value of cash jobs as it's invoicing system requires the collection and retention of such data i.e. it's drivers are employed on a piece work basis being paid a percentage of the value of each job completed.

You may remember a crowd called Taxi Drivers For Change drawing Revenue's attention to a report filed with the EU by the Swedish taxation authority which concluded that compliance is significantly enhanced where drivers subscribe to "high-tech" dispatch systems such as that operated by Free Now. Obviously, in the event of audit Revenue will know the level of verifiable data available to drivers who work for Free Now. However, there is no legal requirement for drivers to subscribe to any dispatch firm and there is no legal requirement for any dispatch firm to record the value of transactions completed by it's drivers.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Justin Time on January 20, 2022, 04:15:54 pm
Why the Fook are drivers letting FN dictate matters???????
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 21, 2022, 01:13:29 pm
Because they have the work, I guess.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: silverbullet on January 21, 2022, 03:17:24 pm
It's not an argument. Self-employed men have always been required to submit their own tax returns. The same regime currently applies to men who work for Free Now. However, Free Now issues it's drivers with payslips detailing all work completed for the firm including the value of cash jobs as it's invoicing system requires the collection and retention of such data i.e. it's drivers are employed on a piece work basis being paid a percentage of the value of each job completed.

You may remember a crowd called Taxi Drivers For Change drawing Revenue's attention to a report filed with the EU by the Swedish taxation authority which concluded that compliance is significantly enhanced where drivers subscribe to "high-tech" dispatch systems such as that operated by Free Now. Obviously, in the event of audit Revenue will know the level of verifiable data available to drivers who work for Free Now. However, there is no legal requirement for drivers to subscribe to any dispatch firm and there is no legal requirement for any dispatch firm to record the value of transactions completed by it's drivers.
How do earnings from the old-fashioned cab companies like City get into the drivers' bank accounts, seeing as cash jobs are also routed through the so-called hi-tech system?

The gobshite in chief even went into print to laugh at how many cash "Leggers" - as he called them - his drivers suffered in the previous year. Oh, how he laughed!!
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/the-shortest-trip-most-famous-passenger-and-the-number-of-pukers-and-leggers-inside-dublin-taxis-during-2021-41225877.html (https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/the-shortest-trip-most-famous-passenger-and-the-number-of-pukers-and-leggers-inside-dublin-taxis-during-2021-41225877.html)
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Shallow Hal on January 21, 2022, 06:48:49 pm
Graham Norton was the most famous passenger!!.....jaysus!!
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Horse on January 21, 2022, 07:05:59 pm
Bella out of fair City was my most famous passenger.  Oh and Anne Doyle as well one evening.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Shallow Hal on January 21, 2022, 07:25:37 pm
Ah Anne Doyle and her partner,the most loveliest lady ever....ye wouldn't think the Kathleen one was her sister,

Bono(twice) was probably mine,John Aldridge deffo the funniest....Brendan O Connor..most ignorant...probably a Cork thing!!......Eamon Dunphy(sober) on his way to a party to get gee eyed no doubt was a gentleman....Brendan "ye saw nuttin" Courtney....I'll say nuttin Brendan,you're secret is safe with me!!
Had Mary Black's hubby and his mates in one night,slaggin the fuk out of him,calling him Mr Black.....
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: markmiwurdz on January 22, 2022, 10:29:37 am
Danny from The Script
King Joffrey from Game of Thrones
Neil Hannon (amazed I knew who he was)
Julian Lennon
Brian Kennedy
2 out of Bewitched
David Mc Savage.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: markmiwurdz on January 22, 2022, 10:32:42 am
Ah Anne Doyle and her partner,the most loveliest lady ever....ye wouldn't think the Kathleen one was her sister,

Bono(twice) was probably mine,John Aldridge deffo the funniest....Brendan O Connor..most ignorant...probably a Cork thing!!......Eamon Dunphy(sober) on his way to a party to get gee eyed no doubt was a gentleman....Brendan "ye saw nuttin" Courtney....I'll say nuttin Brendan,you're secret is safe with me!!
Had Mary Black's hubby and his mates in one night,slaggin the fuk out of him,calling him Mr Black.....

Got Anne Doyle a couple of times as well Hal,dead on character but got a bit of a dipso vibe off her.
Got Mary Black as well as her hubby Joe-he used to own Golden Discs.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 22, 2022, 11:40:46 am
How do earnings from the old-fashioned cab companies like City get into the drivers' bank accounts, seeing as cash jobs are also routed through the so-called hi-tech system?

The gobshite in chief even went into print to laugh at how many cash "Leggers" - as he called them - his drivers suffered in the previous year. Oh, how he laughed!!
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/the-shortest-trip-most-famous-passenger-and-the-number-of-pukers-and-leggers-inside-dublin-taxis-during-2021-41225877.html (https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/the-shortest-trip-most-famous-passenger-and-the-number-of-pukers-and-leggers-inside-dublin-taxis-during-2021-41225877.html)


I'm not sure how city pays it's drivers but In my day with C2K we got a cheque for account jobs which most lads just put back in with their freight the next week. It'd be very rare to have more than €80 in accounts back then. I guess it's probably done by bank transfer these days but if there's no commission on cash jobs they won't have any bearing on payments due anyway.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 22, 2022, 11:42:53 am
So it was Courtney you picked up in the gay bar that time, Hal... I had guessed it was your man that'd go wild ifn you let the cat out of the bag.
Title: Re: Free now looks cheap
Post by: silverbullet on January 22, 2022, 02:47:07 pm
Ah Anne Doyle and her partner,the most loveliest lady ever....ye wouldn't think the Kathleen one was her sister,

Bono(twice) was probably mine,John Aldridge deffo the funniest....Brendan O Connor..most ignorant...probably a Cork thing!!......Eamon Dunphy(sober) on his way to a party to get gee eyed no doubt was a gentleman....Brendan "ye saw nuttin" Courtney....I'll say nuttin Brendan,you're secret is safe with me!!
Had Mary Black's hubby and his mates in one night,slaggin the fuk out of him,calling him Mr Black.....
I'm guessing O'Connor couldn't get in contact with his dealer. an awful hoor for the speed twenty-odd years ago allegedly.