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Title: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 07, 2022, 11:12:37 am
Whats the Story with the New Sum Up card .I got one this morning telling me my Business account was now active .Are they trying to get us to lodge our coin in their Bank ?My Sum Up payments go to my Terrestrial Bank .If I activate that card am I liable for the Government Card levy .Is there any advantage to using the Sum Up bank ?is the commission less?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 07, 2022, 11:19:00 am
Just opt out.My understanding was the money gets sent to the Mastercard account and that's how you withdraw it.

Doesn't really seem like a good deal.So they get money on the card transactions from our passengers then get more money when you spend on the Mastercard from the petrol station or wherever you spend it.

Is that wrong lads?

Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 07, 2022, 11:25:50 am
What you thinking Merch .Just do not complete the Account set up on the app and do not activate the Card ?If you do not want the account ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Punter on October 07, 2022, 11:34:30 am

Go online and into Sum Up a/c and there is an opt in/out---

Its just bait for Mastercard --you know as well as me somewhere along the line there will be charges --for the 150 quid I might do a week on cards I get paid 48 hours in arrears,doesn't really effect balance of payment so it will do for me !
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 07, 2022, 11:47:12 am
I opted out from the email they sent.My old address is on my Sumup account and I dunno where they would send the card.Just to be safe I opted out.

If it's free fees then I'll reconsider but it's not AFAIK.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 07, 2022, 11:50:20 am
anybody got the link to the site ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 07, 2022, 11:57:03 am
Send a message through the support section of your app.Took them 4 days to respond to my last message so don't activate the card until you speak to them.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 07, 2022, 12:03:02 pm
Send a message through the support section of your app.Took them 4 days to respond to my last message so don't activate the card until you speak to them.

Dont want the Card .Government hit you for the tax on it ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 07, 2022, 12:11:06 pm
^^If it's a credit card then yes.Debit cards are a no on th tax.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 07, 2022, 12:57:57 pm
I'm in a similar position - got the promo emails and ignored them. Then got emails saying the card is on the way. Ignored them as well. Looking at the SumUp app, I'm 3/6 steps towards finishing!

No physical card yet.

I've never opted in or out of anything so not sure what to do now. Deffo don't want a credit card!
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 07, 2022, 01:13:30 pm
The whole thing is puzzling. Sumup must easily have 500,000 small business customers across Europe. Did they send out half a mil blank credit cards. The potential for fraud must be huge?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: mgb1979 on October 07, 2022, 01:17:13 pm
The email (that everyone with a Sumup Reader received) plainly says that if you don't actively opt out of this then you are getting a Master Card and all your future Sumup Payments will go into your new Sumup account.
If you ignore the emails then you have not opted out, so Sumup will have decided that you are happy to have your money lodged into your new account and your new Master Card will be on it's way to you.
You can still opt out of this, but I don't know how, as I opted out when I received the 1st email.
They are Debit Cards as far as I can see Watty. Just means less potential for Fraud.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 07, 2022, 02:59:23 pm
Found the email in my trash folder.  The opt-out info is waaaayyyy down the bottom.

@ JohnM: Email says you can opt-out anytime after deadline by changing something in the settings. Will post pic later.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 07, 2022, 04:15:18 pm
Found the email in my trash folder.  The opt-out info is waaaayyyy down the bottom.

@ JohnM: Email says you can opt-out anytime after deadline by changing something in the settings. Will post pic later.

Thanks I ignore E mails I never invited .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 07, 2022, 05:11:36 pm
Here we go.  I guess you could say the opt-out is on 'page 4' of the email.  Instructions on how to opt-out after their deadline are on page 3 as well.  Pics should get bigger if you click on them.

1
(https://i.ibb.co/kBkfk9D/sumup001.jpg)
2
(https://i.ibb.co/zRBrqSm/sumup002.jpg)
3
(https://i.ibb.co/85L3rMW/sumup003.jpg)
4
(https://i.ibb.co/dLQLBmq/sumup004.jpg)
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Bob Shillin on October 07, 2022, 05:37:23 pm
Fighting back against Revolut.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 07, 2022, 06:01:32 pm
Just got on to the Team who willtalk to the team and close my business account .Then I get an E mail telling me my BUSINESS account wont work on Sunday due to essential maintanance .Anybody got another way of taking card with low fees as backup .Sum Up look fairly inept up there with the Free Now app for fuckology .Remember they crashed at the Yankee Football Game !
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 07, 2022, 06:26:12 pm
Not an exact answer for you but it seems a lot of young people have moved to Revolut for payments.  Talking to a guy about it today and sounds good but you have to tell them your mobile number to get paid.  But I'm not sure I want to give randomers my mobile number in case I start getting stupid calls at 3am in the morning about how I overcharged them or whatever.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 07, 2022, 06:42:14 pm
I have Revolute but have not taken a payment on it in about 5 months .I offer the tap on Sum Up .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: silverbullet on October 07, 2022, 07:20:39 pm
I took a revolut payment last night and then processed the job through FN only to discover it was down as an app payment.
The guy came back over to the car and I revolted him back! 8)
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: mgb1979 on October 07, 2022, 08:26:17 pm
You can get a Square Card reader. Pretty much the same as a Sumup (but a lot smaller). Only problem is that the reader is very, very picky about which phones it will pair with. I got one (when they were on sale for a fiver) and it will only work with 1 phone out of 5 that I tried.
But.....the square App will take manual payments without connecting to the Reader. They do charge a few % more if you use this feature, but at least it's an option if you're stuck with just a Sumup that won't work for some reason. AFAIK you don't need to get their reader for this, just download the App, input your details and you're good to go.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Bob Shillin on October 07, 2022, 11:05:55 pm
Not an exact answer for you but it seems a lot of young people have moved to Revolut for payments.  Talking to a guy about it today and sounds good but you have to tell them your mobile number to get paid.  But I'm not sure I want to give randomers my mobile number in case I start getting stupid calls at 3am in the morning about how I overcharged them or whatever.
No need to give your phone no to get paid on Rev. Their is a very quick and simple bar code scanner on both apps or you can give your Revolut ID, e.g. @Wattyag72
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 08, 2022, 08:19:17 am
The messing around with this Sum Up card .If you have standing orders coming out of a different account and you expect your Sum Up payments to be deposited there .The Opt out shite is the same crap in reverse Hailo did for Bonus Payments .It simply a way of forcing you to read E mails they send .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: MK on October 08, 2022, 11:52:58 pm
Not an exact answer for you but it seems a lot of young people have moved to Revolut for payments.  Talking to a guy about it today and sounds good but you have to tell them your mobile number to get paid.  But I'm not sure I want to give randomers my mobile number in case I start getting stupid calls at 3am in the morning about how I overcharged them or whatever.
You don’t have to give them your phone number to pay you. There is a QR code on the top right when you press the two arrows at the bottom of the home screen. They scan it and pay you


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Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 09, 2022, 10:52:39 pm
The Boffin from Balbriggan suggested 'Opt out' from the start.
I read the Sum-up/mastercard email and followed his advice.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 10, 2022, 10:52:38 am
Such idiots, could they not just leave things as they were?.Will have to leave them now. Got the stupid card I didn't ask for. Took a good few payments over the weekend on sumup, will they not go to my usual bank account now?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 10, 2022, 11:45:18 am
Opted out, seems to have worked as I didn't get a card.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 10, 2022, 03:40:06 pm
Such idiots, could they not just leave things as they were?.Will have to leave them now. Got the stupid card I didn't ask for. Took a good few payments over the weekend on sumup, will they not go to my usual bank account now?

From the sumup email;
"you can edit your payout settings in the SumUp app at any time."
"From 19.10.2022, you’ll receive your payouts in your new account".
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 10, 2022, 04:46:16 pm
Such idiots, could they not just leave things as they were?.Will have to leave them now. Got the stupid card I didn't ask for. Took a good few payments over the weekend on sumup, will they not go to my usual bank account now?

From the sumup email;
"you can edit your payout settings in the SumUp app at any time."
"From 19.10.2022, you’ll receive your payouts in your new account".


So if we dont want the card, do we have to find a new company to deal with card payments or what?
it says there isn't any charges on the card. is it best to stay or what is going on?

Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 10, 2022, 04:55:46 pm
Such idiots, could they not just leave things as they were?.Will have to leave them now. Got the stupid card I didn't ask for. Took a good few payments over the weekend on sumup, will they not go to my usual bank account now?

From the sumup email;
"you can edit your payout settings in the SumUp app at any time."
"From 19.10.2022, you’ll receive your payouts in your new account".

So if we dont want the card, do we have to find a new company to deal with card payments or what?
it says there isn't any charges on the card. is it best to stay or what is going on?
I'm no expert at this but the email states that if you do nothing they set it all up fer you, and seemingly there are no fees ??
As your IN now prob best to stick it out ??

I read the email, heard what the Balbriggan Boffin suggested on here and opted out.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 10, 2022, 05:14:32 pm
As I understand it, if you change your payment preferences, it will take effect the following week.  So if you want to go back to the old way of getting the money into your bank account every Wed, choose that option and it will/should happen NEXT week.  Don't know about this week though.  I guess we'll find out on Wed!
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 10, 2022, 05:27:20 pm
It will be intrestinging to see what fiddle Sumup have on the go,
Like no way are they gonna give free mastercards and accounts and free transaction fees ??
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 10, 2022, 05:33:16 pm
Such idiots, could they not just leave things as they were?.Will have to leave them now. Got the stupid card I didn't ask for. Took a good few payments over the weekend on sumup, will they not go to my usual bank account now?

From the sumup email;
"you can edit your payout settings in the SumUp app at any time."
"From 19.10.2022, you’ll receive your payouts in your new account".

So if we dont want the card, do we have to find a new company to deal with card payments or what?
it says there isn't any charges on the card. is it best to stay or what is going on?
I'm no expert at this but the email states that if you do nothing they set it all up fer you, and seemingly there are no fees ??
As your IN now prob best to stick it out ??

I read the email, heard what the Balbriggan Boffin suggested on here and opted out.


You opted out, does that mean you will still use sumup and it goes into your usually account or does that mean you wont be using sumup anymore?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 10, 2022, 05:40:33 pm
Go into the app and go to live talk or message .Send them a note that you do not want their Business account ,Do not click on it or activate the card .Tell them you want them to leave your old settings .

Dear john,

Thank you for contacting SumUp Support.

Following your request to close the SumUp Business Account, we would like to inform you that this is a free option. Indeed, the closure of the Business Account is final, and if you wish to use it in the future, you will have to create a new SumUp profile.

This option now allows you to send and receive bank transfers from external bank accounts within the EU. Please note that international bank transfers are currently not supported.

Although you have a Business Account on your profile, you are not required to use it and can receive your payments from your external bank account.

If after reading this information you still want us to close your Business Account, please confirm this in response to this message.

If you've any further questions, please feel free to contact us.

Kind regards,


Look at the fuckology I told them I dont want their Business account they confirm I told them but still want me to tell them to fuck off with another E Mail .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 10, 2022, 05:52:34 pm
Here is the E Mail address    support@sumup.co.uk


Write to them with your name and Phonenumber dont forget to include the Irish prefix .Tell them you dont want a business account .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 10, 2022, 05:56:33 pm
.... You opted out, does that mean you will still use sumup and it goes into your usually account or does that mean you wont be using sumup anymore?
My sumup payments after opting out means that I stay the same as before using the sumup reader and usual payments.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 10, 2022, 06:01:41 pm
Go into the app and go to live talk or message .Send them a note that you do not want their Business account ,Do not click on it or activate the card .Tell them you want them to leave your old settings .

Dear john,

Thank you for contacting SumUp Support.

Following your request to close the SumUp Business Account, we would like to inform you that this is a free option. Indeed, the closure of the Business Account is final, and if you wish to use it in the future, you will have to create a new SumUp profile.

This option now allows you to send and receive bank transfers from external bank accounts within the EU. Please note that international bank transfers are currently not supported.

Although you have a Business Account on your profile, you are not required to use it and can receive your payments from your external bank account.

If after reading this information you still want us to close your Business Account, please confirm this in response to this message.

If you've any further questions, please feel free to contact us.

Kind regards,


Look at the fuckology I told them I dont want their Business account they confirm I told them but still want me to tell them to fuck off with another E Mail .
Why didnt you just opt out when you got the email a few weeks ago ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 10, 2022, 06:18:38 pm
I dont answer E mails from uninvited sources .just straight to trash .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Shallow Hal on October 10, 2022, 08:41:02 pm
I got the email and just opted out and the email said fine,you'll receive your payments as normal.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 11, 2022, 04:31:09 pm
I was talking to the sumup crowd on web chat last night, told them i didnt want the card. they told me they would sort it out.

I checked my sales from the weekend and it says they have paid out but they aren't showing in my bank account when i check online, is that normal?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 11, 2022, 05:11:13 pm
My sumup money usually doesn't turn up until Wed morning so maybe wait a day?  Otherwise it might be on "your" sumup mastercard debit card?

That whole thing is starting to annoy me now.  I didn't opt-out because I didn't see the opt-out bit on page 3 of the email (see above).  So, instead I changed my preferences to keep getting paid into my bank account like normal (and I'd throw the card in the cupboard).  But it looks like SumUp have now also changed that option without telling me and I will be getting paid via the card.  Which I haven't gotten in any event!

Maybe I'll switch over to stripe or whatever the other one is called  >:(
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 11, 2022, 05:25:40 pm
I opted out and got paid into my usual N26 bank account today with no hassle.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Octavia1 on October 11, 2022, 06:19:23 pm
I just  tried tackled this  farce today ...I was talpkin to a bot ..think his name was Bob...anyway Bob put me onto Derek an ape ...an I got cut off cause he said update ....anyway .. I had to do all the rig moroll on the app as the ape said he wasn't allowed or sumtin .....anyway still don't know wtf but ther was
Few quid in this "  business account " an I just sent it to me bank account Iban.....
I just pressed the payment method in setting " direct to bank account" ..
They shudny be forcing antin on ya ...
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 11, 2022, 06:53:54 pm
Here is an Issue to consider .My banking is with my bank I put all my finances through that and that is where my credit rating comes from .You will fuck up your credit rating if you have to many cards .I dont even use my bank for paddy power .Why would you want to change your bank ?This crowd are trying to bully you into taking their card .The service we signed up for is card payments not Banking services .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 11, 2022, 07:05:39 pm
And it's free for now but how long before they start charging commission 'for a new & improved service just for you'?  We've seen all the other apps do it  ::fds

And will you have to start uploading your passport etc to prove who you are like you would with a bank/CU account in Ireland?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 11, 2022, 08:13:18 pm
I see the money sitting in the business account. not sure what to do now. do i send it to my bank account myself or get sumup to send it to my bank account? it says i have 3 steps of the 4 to complete to set up the account. the other is to download the app.
id say i will leave them not just on principle for pissing me off about this card.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 11, 2022, 08:37:17 pm
Problem is we can't just leave sumup.  We have to have a card reader now by law so you'd have to get a replacement reader first.

I was looking at Square reader (https://squareup.com/ie/en/hardware/reader) for €19+VAT.  Same idea as Sumup & commission is around the same.  Oddly enough you can buy a little dock/stand (https://squareup.com/shop/hardware/ie/en/products/credit-card-apple-pay-reader-dock-ie) for it (unlike sumup) but it's almost double the price of the reader itself! But mgb1979 said on page 2 said it was a bit finicky...


You can get a Square Card reader. Pretty much the same as a Sumup (but a lot smaller). Only problem is that the reader is very, very picky about which phones it will pair with. I got one (when they were on sale for a fiver) and it will only work with 1 phone out of 5 that I tried.
But.....the square App will take manual payments without connecting to the Reader. They do charge a few % more if you use this feature, but at least it's an option if you're stuck with just a Sumup that won't work for some reason. AFAIK you don't need to get their reader for this, just download the App, input your details and you're good to go.

Edit:  Looking at the reader, it doesn't have a keypad.  So if someone for whatever reason had to type in a PIN, I think they'd have to use the keypad on your Phone/app.  So possibly a security risk as they could do a runner with your phone?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 11, 2022, 10:45:57 pm
I see the money sitting in the business account. not sure what to do now. do i send it to my bank account myself or get sumup to send it to my bank account? it says i have 3 steps of the 4 to complete to set up the account. the other is to download the app.
id say i will leave them not just on principle for pissing me off about this card.

What brand of fucking stupid are you .You were told what to do to stop them paying your money into their account did you do it .

FFS do you want us to drive the fucking car for you ..Dear john,

We can confirm that your SumUp Business Account has now been closed, and we’ve now permanently blocked your SumUp Card.

We advise you to destroy the card as it will no longer be valid.

Please also note that closing your SumUp Business Account will not affect your SumUp profile and you will be able to continue transacting.

If you've any further questions, please feel free to contact us.

Kind regards,

SumUp Support Team UK
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 11, 2022, 11:27:05 pm
I see the money sitting in the business account. not sure what to do now. do i send it to my bank account myself or get sumup to send it to my bank account? it says i have 3 steps of the 4 to complete to set up the account. the other is to download the app.
id say i will leave them not just on principle for pissing me off about this card.

What brand of fucking stupid are you .You were told what to do to stop them paying your money into their account did you do it .

FFS do you want us to drive the fucking car for you ..Dear john,

We can confirm that your SumUp Business Account has now been closed, and we’ve now permanently blocked your SumUp Card.

We advise you to destroy the card as it will no longer be valid.

Please also note that closing your SumUp Business Account will not affect your SumUp profile and you will be able to continue transacting.

If you've any further questions, please feel free to contact us.

Kind regards,

SumUp Support Team UK



I did that but they are idiots who cant do what they are told. I will have to get on to them again tomorrow to ask them again.

Also calm down, no need to be so ignorant.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 11, 2022, 11:37:38 pm
Who are you calling ignorant .You have been told or advised on every issue you asked for help with but are to fucking stupit to listen .This form has two functions to advise and to let men let off steam .Learn to listen when you are getting good advice .Ignorance is the lack of intelligence compare you with me there is only one ignoramus now fuck off I will never help you again .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 11, 2022, 11:48:36 pm
Who are you calling ignorant .You have been told or advised on every issue you asked for help with but are to fucking stupit to listen .This form has two functions to advise and to let men let off steam .Learn to listen when you are getting good advice .Ignorance is the lack of intelligence compare you with me there is only one ignoramus now fuck off I will never help you again .


Oh no lol. arsehole. You have serious anger issues. I wonder do you act the same way with your customers. anyway best of luck I don't want to hear from you again.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 11, 2022, 11:55:27 pm
There hasn't been a bit of a barney around here in ages. Was getting a bit boring tbh. Nice one lads!

Also if anyone is looking for an alternative to sumup I use cabapp and have not had any problems yet.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 07:11:18 am
There hasn't been a bit of a barney around here in ages. Was getting a bit boring tbh. Nice one lads!

Also if anyone is looking for an alternative to sumup I use cabapp and have not had any problems yet.
Would you ever Fook off with that dinosaur cab-app yoke, astronomical fees and needs to be charged every few days !
Bollocks on that !!
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 07:18:46 am
..... What brand of fucking stupid are you .You were told what to do.....

Possibly the same brand of stupid that does not read emails sent to them that are about the business that they are employed in ??

I dont answer E mails from uninvited sources .just straight to trash .

To add, you too were advised by the Boffin from Balbriggan about how to opt out, but you took no notice !
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 07:28:58 am
.... I was looking at Square reader (https://squareup.com/ie/en/hardware/reader) for €19+VAT.  Same idea as Sumup & commission is around the same.  Oddly enough you can buy a little dock/stand (https://squareup.com/shop/hardware/ie/en/products/credit-card-apple-pay-reader-dock-ie) for it (unlike sumup) but it's almost double the price of the reader itself! ......

Sumup air reader + dock €44 free delivery.
https://store.sumup.com/en-IE/dashboard/product-selection/card_reader.air_bundle?source=dashboard&nextInternalLocale=en-IE

The air reader is €39 on it's own and just a Fiver extra if you want the dock thing with it.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 07:44:40 am
There hasn't been a bit of a barney around here in ages. Was getting a bit boring tbh. Nice one lads!

Also if anyone is looking for an alternative to sumup I use cabapp and have not had any problems yet.
Would you ever Fook off with that dinosaur cab-app yoke, astronomical fees and needs to be charged every few days !
Bollocks on that !!
To add as your in the mood fer a barney Horse, the only reason you stick with cab-app is because you are both too lazy and too stoopid to change over to a better device, with sum-up you would halve your commission rate and the device only needs to be charged every 3 months....not every 3 days !!

As your from Fookin Tallaght I'll give ya a pass on the stoopid issue, but not on the laziness !
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 12, 2022, 07:47:22 am
..... What brand of fucking stupid are you .You were told what to do.....

Possibly the same brand of stupid that does not read emails sent to them that are about the business that they are employed in ??

I dont answer E mails from uninvited sources .just straight to trash .

To add, you too were advised by the Boffin from Balbriggan about how to opt out, but you took no notice !

I successfully opted out no problem .I dont waste my time reading E mails I get 100 of them .I posted about this simply to inform lads that might have standing orders coming out of their bank account that these cunts were hijacking your coin .Why can they pay you same  day if you have a card but you have to wait days if you dont .Why should we have to opt out what has happened is YOUR money has been diverted to their account without your express permission .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Octavia1 on October 12, 2022, 07:51:06 am
Who are you calling ignorant .You have been told or advised on every issue you asked for help with but are to fucking stupit to listen .This form has two functions to advise and to let men let off steam .Learn to listen when you are getting good advice .Ignorance is the lack of intelligence compare you with me there is only one ignoramus now fuck off I will never help you again .

Ah jasus Johnny..bit harsh now ..90.is only askn a question fuk sake ....half the time I'm on a different planet aswell .....specially if I forget me medication ..... oops
Plus ya can't read everything all the time
That reminds me zzzz
 ::sleep


Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 07:54:29 am
..... I successfully opted out no problem .......

Judging by your recent posts I wouldnt say No Problem.... but what ever !

Go into the app and go to live talk or message .Send them a note that you do not want their Business account ,Do not click on it or activate the card .Tell them you want them to leave your old settings ......
......Look at the fuckology I told them I dont want their Business account they confirm I told them but still want me to tell them to fuck off with another E Mail .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 07:59:16 am
.......I dont waste my time reading E mails I get 100 of them .......
So do I and I seldom read any of them, except the ones that relate directly to the business that I am employed in. I would rather read those emails myself than hear about them second hand on here.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 12, 2022, 07:59:41 am
..... I successfully opted out no problem .......

Judging by your recent posts I wouldnt say No Problem.... but what ever !

Go into the app and go to live talk or message .Send them a note that you do not want their Business account ,Do not click on it or activate the card .Tell them you want them to leave your old settings ......
......Look at the fuckology I told them I dont want their Business account they confirm I told them but still want me to tell them to fuck off with another E Mail .

Ken some kid is probably getting a 20p bonus for every person they convince to take the card .Check out Revolute and see if you would want them to be your bank of choice or hold your Crypto funds .They have left Ireland and gotten a Latvian Banking License .Do any of these card issuers actually have any Money lodged as Security .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 08:02:52 am
I see the money sitting in the business account. not sure what to do now. do i send it to my bank account myself or get sumup to send it to my bank account? it says i have 3 steps of the 4 to complete to set up the account. the other is to download the app.
id say i will leave them not just on principle for pissing me off about this card.
It will be intresting to see how you get on Italia 90 if you stick it out with them and IF the fees really are 0% ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 12, 2022, 08:10:43 am
The card itself is not a bad thing handy as a business account .My issue is the snyde way they roped people in .Im sure there are businesses all over the place wondering where their takings are .Not all business will be aware like we were that they were hijacking your money .Imagine if you miss a payment that you are on a final warning with or one missed payment triggers court action and your funds have been held on a card you never ordered .How many people wont trigger the card because they think its bogey and wont want to enter their other card numbers to transfer THEIR MONEY .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 08:12:28 am
..... I successfully opted out no problem .......

Judging by your recent posts I wouldnt say No Problem.... but what ever !

Go into the app and go to live talk or message .Send them a note that you do not want their Business account ,Do not click on it or activate the card .Tell them you want them to leave your old settings ......
......Look at the fuckology I told them I dont want their Business account they confirm I told them but still want me to tell them to fuck off with another E Mail .

Ken some kid is probably getting a 20p bonus for every person they convince to take the card .Check out Revolute and see if you would want them to be your bank of choice or hold your Crypto funds .They have left Ireland and gotten a Latvian Banking License .Do any of these card issuers actually have any Money lodged as Security .
No idea, I don't use revolt or any of the others, except my own bank and card, it works just fine fer me.
I would guess that I make a lot more in FN Bobo than all of yiz together save on banking fees per year.

PS. Did I mention that I just need 1 more FN week on 70 job Gold fer me €200 Circle K fuel voucher ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 12, 2022, 08:17:08 am
Take all the commission you pay then deduct the bobo .thats the real cost of work .My Free now commission last week was 3.20c
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 08:20:26 am
The card itself is not a bad thing handy as a business account .My issue is the snyde way they roped people in ......
Hardly snyde, they did send out an email with an opt out option fer those who wished to read it ??
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 08:22:51 am
.....Not all business will be aware like we were that they were hijacking your money ......
Whom is this 'WE' you speak of ?
You didn't even read the Fookin sumup email !!
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 08:26:24 am
Take all the commission you pay then deduct the bobo .thats the real cost of work .My Free now commission last week was 3.20c
My weekly commission is usually a Tenner either side of the PUC's collected, and Bobo is what it is.... BOBO !!  ::cheers
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 12, 2022, 08:32:24 am
I'm sure there's some sort of financial regulatory office yous can  complain to about this.Sumup have an office on Harcourt street according to their website so you can make their life a bit tougher if you're really pissed off.

I reckon after the mandatory card acceptance came in they got overwhelmed by all the extra work.They've sent me multiple emails lately telling me that my payments are gonna be late.The bank transfers must be either expensive or too time consuming.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 08:38:18 am
I'm sure there's some sort of financial regulatory office yous can  complain to about this.Sumup have an office on Harcourt street according to their website so you can make their life a bit tougher if you're really pissed off.

I reckon after the mandatory card acceptance came in they got overwhelmed by all the extra work.They've sent me multiple emails lately telling me that my payments are gonna be late.The bank transfers must be either expensive or too time consuming.
Complain about what ?
Being sent an email with an opt out option ?
1 day late payments (as explained) due to various bank holidays in different countries ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Joe on October 12, 2022, 09:00:27 am
I did a test payment on sum up and sent a receipt to my email address to see what information the customer gets.
It shows business as Taxi. Location as my home address. It even shows my eircode.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 12, 2022, 09:00:51 am
Belker they're restricting their customer's options by not informing them properly. Something like this should be an opt-in rather than an opt-out. Reminds me a lot of the tracker mortgage scandal although not quite as serious.

An email isn't sufficient notice.

By the way, I already posted that Sumup has my old address because when I tried to change it I needed to upload a load of documents which I didn't have at the time. So had I not opted out in time the Sumup MasterCard would be in someone else possession and potentially available for fraudulent use.

I'd say the Central Bank might have something to say about this.Sumup fukked up and won't admit it.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 12, 2022, 09:03:38 am
Joe:
I did a test payment on sum up and sent a receipt to my email address to see what information the customer gets.
It shows business as Taxi. Location as my home address. It even shows my eircode.

Yeah I did that years ago and my old gaff comes up which means the passengers can put the address in Google streetview and see yer gaff.It's a bit weird considering some if the nut jobs we drive around.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 12, 2022, 09:05:46 am
Just wasted the last hour trying to get the money sent back to my bank account. issue still not sorted. I told them it is their problem, im not downloading any app i just want the money sent to my usual bank.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 12, 2022, 09:17:38 am
There hasn't been a bit of a barney around here in ages. Was getting a bit boring tbh. Nice one lads!

Also if anyone is looking for an alternative to sumup I use cabapp and have not had any problems yet.
Would you ever Fook off with that dinosaur cab-app yoke, astronomical fees and needs to be charged every few days !
Bollocks on that !!

Astronomical fees? Jasus you're one hungry cnut Ken. It's 2.67 poxy per cent.  Or 2 euros 67 cent per 100 euro ya greedy bastid.  I wouldn't mind but 9 times out of 10 the customer gives a tip on top which covers the fee ya selfish bollox!
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 12, 2022, 09:20:44 am
I knew Cork cnuts were greedy whores but fcuking hell Ken.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 09:31:59 am
Just wasted the last hour trying to get the money sent back to my bank account. issue still not sorted. I told them it is their problem, im not downloading any app i just want the money sent to my usual bank.
Youse prob barking in the wrong direction there 1990, these guys have rules that must be adhered to.
Best of luck with it but I don't see it ending pretty !
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 09:37:02 am
There hasn't been a bit of a barney around here in ages. Was getting a bit boring tbh. Nice one lads!

Also if anyone is looking for an alternative to sumup I use cabapp and have not had any problems yet.
Would you ever Fook off with that dinosaur cab-app yoke, astronomical fees and needs to be charged every few days !
Bollocks on that !!

Astronomical fees? Jasus you're one hungry cnut Ken. It's 2.67 poxy per cent.  Or 2 euros 67 cent per 100 euro ya greedy bastid.  I wouldn't mind but 9 times out of 10 the customer gives a tip on top which covers the fee ya selfish bollox!
To add as your in the mood fer a barney Horse, the only reason you stick with cab-app is because you are both too lazy and too stoopid to change over to a better device, with sum-up you would halve your commission rate to 1.39% and the device only needs to be charged every 3 months....not every 3 days !!

As your from Fookin Tallaght I'll give ya a pass on the stoopid issue, but not on the laziness !
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 12, 2022, 09:41:03 am
So you save a euro on every 100 Ken? Jesus wept.  As for the charging issue I just leave it plugged in all the time. No big deal, ya hungry cnut!
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Octavia1 on October 12, 2022, 09:53:30 am
There hasn't been a bit of a barney around here in ages. Was getting a bit boring tbh. Nice one lads!

Also if anyone is looking for an alternative to sumup I use cabapp and have not had any problems yet.
Would you ever Fook off with that dinosaur cab-app yoke, astronomical fees and needs to be charged every few days !
Bollocks on that !!

Astronomical fees? Jasus you're one hungry cnut Ken. It's 2.67 poxy per cent.  Or 2 euros 67 cent per 100 euro ya greedy bastid.  I wouldn't mind but 9 times out of 10 the customer gives a tip on top which covers the fee ya selfish bollox!
To add as your in the mood fer a barney Horse, the only reason you stick with cab-app is because you are both too lazy and too stoopid to change over to a better device, with sum-up you would halve your commission rate to 1.39% and the device only needs to be charged every 3 months....not every 3 days !!

As your from Fookin Tallaght I'll give ya a pass on the stoopid issue, but not on the laziness !

He's lookin for assistance Ken...not a bleedin lecture .....

1990 ....this is wat i dun .....don't activate card for now  and dont  finnish account setup untill yur sorted .....any money in yur business account can be sent to yur bank account....
Simply open the sumup app ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/8sDftPq5/Screenshot-20221012-094903-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8sDftPq5)

Press ACCOUNT


(https://i.postimg.cc/G4Nqysg9/Screenshot-20221012-095025-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4Nqysg9)


Then type in yur name an Iban


(https://i.postimg.cc/HVnw9kyM/Screenshot-20221012-095239-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVnw9kyM)

Yur money goes into yur bank account next day
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 09:57:08 am
I knew Cork cnuts were greedy whores but fcuking hell Ken.
Hardly greedy !  I struggle to make my target of 30 hours work per week.
Looking back over past figures I have only made that work target twice in the last 15 weeks.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 10:00:43 am
... 1990 ....this is wat i dun .....don't activate card for now  and dont  finnish account setup untill yur sorted .....any money in yur business account can be sent to yur bank account....
Simply open the sumup app ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/8sDftPq5/Screenshot-20221012-094903-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8sDftPq5)

Press ACCOUNT


(https://i.postimg.cc/G4Nqysg9/Screenshot-20221012-095025-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4Nqysg9)


Then type in yur name an Iban


(https://i.postimg.cc/HVnw9kyM/Screenshot-20221012-095239-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVnw9kyM)

Yur money goes into yur bank account next day

It looks good, but is it 0% commission ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 10:07:36 am
There hasn't been a bit of a barney around here in ages. Was getting a bit boring tbh. Nice one lads!

Also if anyone is looking for an alternative to sumup I use cabapp and have not had any problems yet.
Would you ever Fook off with that dinosaur cab-app yoke, astronomical fees and needs to be charged every few days !
Bollocks on that !!

Astronomical fees? Jasus you're one hungry cnut Ken. It's 2.67 poxy per cent.  Or 2 euros 67 cent per 100 euro ya greedy bastid.  I wouldn't mind but 9 times out of 10 the customer gives a tip on top which covers the fee ya selfish bollox!
To add as your in the mood fer a barney Horse, the only reason you stick with cab-app is because you are both too lazy and too stoopid to change over to a better device, with sum-up you would halve your commission rate to 1.39% and the device only needs to be charged every 3 months....not every 3 days !!

As your from Fookin Tallaght I'll give ya a pass on the stoopid issue, but not on the laziness !

He's lookin for assistance Ken...not a bleedin lecture ..... ..
It don't sound like he is looking fer assistance to me Octy,
the Tallaght-mong is clueless when it comes about to getting savings and discounts.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 12, 2022, 10:12:36 am
Savings? 1 poxy euro out of every 100, ya hungry bollox.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 10:26:34 am
So you save a euro on every 100 Ken? Jesus wept.  As for the charging issue I just leave it plugged in all the time. No big deal, ya hungry cnut!
Yep !
Only 1.42% commission with sumup, and Circle K 4c off per liter, half price car washes. FN ambassador program gets me priority work, did I mention that FN paid the the €86.10 fer my last reseal or the €200 Circle K voucher or the constant FN Bobo's on offer.

Some of us work Stoopid and some of us work Clever !
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 12, 2022, 11:08:04 am
Why bother to fix something that ain't broken...
Sum up works just fine fer me (1.42% commission) paid within a few days,
the card reader lives in the center consul and takes usually less than a minute to process a card.

Why fix what is not broken ?


I've been trying to figure out why Sumup have shoved this down our throats without any finesse.  And it seems to me that they're trying to steal business customers with 1,000's going through their accounts from the traditional banks.  Previously, money went direct from Sumup to client bank account.  Now it goes from Sumup to Sumup Mastercard and we have to take another step to get the money into our bank account.  Sumup must be hoping bigger customers will make the Sumup Mastercard their default bank account.  If so, it's free for now but fees will definitely be coming and they'll also be forced down our throats!


So you read your business emails because you don't want to hear about them secondhand on here.  Yet you come here for advice.
.......I dont waste my time reading E mails I get 100 of them .......
So do I and I seldom read any of them, except the ones that relate directly to the business that I am employed in. I would rather read those emails myself than hear about them second hand on here.


RC's advice wasn't too definitive on the pros & cons of the mastercard - he just said he didn't want another mastercard.
No. I'm OK waiting for a few days. I don't do much card work or much work at all, to be honest... and I don't need another Mastercard.


This change was a major change from Sumup and auto enrolling every single customer with a new debit card is hardly good business practice.  And the opt-out info was well hidden down the bottom.  There should have been several emails like a countdown and also emphasizing how to out-out if we wanted.  I don't see how this benefits anyone except Sumup themselves.  Alternatively they should have given these mastercards to NEW customers and see how it worked out over a couple of months before forcing it down our throats.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Octavia1 on October 12, 2022, 11:17:23 am
... 1990 ....this is wat i dun .....don't activate card for now  and dont  finnish account setup untill yur sorted .....any money in yur business account can be sent to yur bank account....
Simply open the sumup app ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/8sDftPq5/Screenshot-20221012-094903-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8sDftPq5)

Press ACCOUNT


(https://i.postimg.cc/G4Nqysg9/Screenshot-20221012-095025-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4Nqysg9)


Then type in yur name an Iban


(https://i.postimg.cc/HVnw9kyM/Screenshot-20221012-095239-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVnw9kyM)

Yur money goes into yur bank account next day

It looks good, but is it 0% commission ?
Yea Ken...free

Temporary solution of course ...



If 1990 goes into settings
(https://i.postimg.cc/crTLQC5N/Screenshot-20221012-112325-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/crTLQC5N)

He can change his money goin back into his bank account...
Not sure if this works yet as I've bean off few days an no money comin in ....mite be more steps to take but for us procrastinators  oops
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 12, 2022, 11:34:48 am
So you save a euro on every 100 Ken? Jesus wept.  As for the charging issue I just leave it plugged in all the time. No big deal, ya hungry cnut!
Yep !
Only 1.42% commission with sumup, and Circle K 4c off per liter, half price car washes. FN ambassador program gets me priority work, did I mention that FN paid the the €86.10 fer my last reseal or the €200 Circle K voucher or the constant FN Bobo's on offer.

Some of us work Stoopid and some of us work Clever !

Once again Ken has to remind everybody that he's a licky lacky piece of shit. Stop advertising for them shysters Ken fook sake.  We don't care if you get twopence off yer juice or a cheap scaldy car wash.  You've just proved my point that you're a cheap skate piece of dirt.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 12, 2022, 11:43:19 am
I think sumup take 1.69% from ever transaction. They used to take 2.75% but changed this during the pandemic. They guy I was talking to this morning said he cancelled the card so not sure what the story is now. I took a lot of card payments over the weekend unfortunately.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Octavia1 on October 12, 2022, 11:57:45 am
I think sumup take 1.69% from ever transaction. They used to take 2.75% but changed this during the pandemic. They guy I was talking to this morning said he cancelled the card so not sure what the story is now. I took a lot of card payments over the weekend unfortunately.


That's wen you take a fare 1990....transfer yur money is separate
I've just transferred the business account money to me bank account last nite ....an every penny went ....no commission...
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 12, 2022, 12:00:42 pm
I think sumup take 1.69% from ever transaction. They used to take 2.75% but changed this during the pandemic. They guy I was talking to this morning said he cancelled the card so not sure what the story is now. I took a lot of card payments over the weekend unfortunately.


That's wen you take a fare 1990....transfer yur money is separate
I've just transferred the business account money to me bank account last nite ....an every penny went ....no commission...

I know. I was responding to ken who said sumup take 1.42% of ever fare, i think that is what he was saying anyway.
I think I have to download the app to transfer the money, they asked me for my phone number and then said it isn't in their records, they are dragging their heels with me over it, I'm sure they could easily send the money to my bank account if they tried.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Octavia1 on October 12, 2022, 12:19:57 pm
I think sumup take 1.69% from ever transaction. They used to take 2.75% but changed this during the pandemic. They guy I was talking to this morning said he cancelled the card so not sure what the story is now. I took a lot of card payments over the weekend unfortunately.


That's wen you take a fare 1990....transfer yur money is separate
I've just transferred the business account money to me bank account last nite ....an every penny went ....no commission...

I know. I was responding to ken who said sumup take 1.42% of ever fare, i think that is what he was saying anyway.
I think I have to download the app to transfer the money, they asked me for my phone number and then said it isn't in their records, they are dragging their heels with me over it, I'm sure they could easily send the money to my bank account if they tried.
Yea ..try update app
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 12, 2022, 01:14:37 pm
Will your bank charge you a transaction fee when you transfer/lodge the money into your 'real' bank account?

And it used to be SumUp --> Bank account

Now it's SumUp --> SumUp Mastercard -->  manual intervention --> Bank account

Not sure how that's of benefit to me?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 12, 2022, 01:36:07 pm
Sumup must be getting a kickback on every transaction via MasterCard on top of the commission they charge us for getting paid by passengers.

Separately last month Revolut announced they were offering a card acceptance platform for business.When I tried to apply for it they blanked me after I told them my turnover was only a grand a month via card.

I'm still sceptical that this mandatory card acceptance is a good idea.I'm getting no extra work since we started having to accept card.I am getting more card payments though.

 
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 02:02:45 pm
So you save a euro on every 100 Ken? Jesus wept.  As for the charging issue I just leave it plugged in all the time. No big deal, ya hungry cnut!
Yep !
Only 1.42% commission with sumup, and Circle K 4c off per liter, half price car washes. FN ambassador program gets me priority work, did I mention that FN paid the the €86.10 fer my last reseal or the €200 Circle K voucher or the constant FN Bobo's on offer.

Some of us work Stoopid and some of us work Clever !

Once again Ken has to remind everybody that he's a licky lacky piece of shit. Stop advertising for them shysters Ken fook sake.  We don't care if you get twopence off yer juice or a cheap scaldy car wash.  You've just proved my point that you're a cheap skate piece of dirt.
It could be worse, I could be regular Scum or worse again I could be from Fookin Tallaght !

Just wondering do ye get Food Aid drop-off's like the starving Africans in Tallaght Horse ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 02:27:40 pm
I think sumup take 1.69% from ever transaction. They used to take 2.75% but changed this during the pandemic. They guy I was talking to this morning said he cancelled the card so not sure what the story is now. I took a lot of card payments over the weekend unfortunately.
My current rate is 1.42%, new sumup card holders with FN can get 1.39%.
The dinosaurs on cab-app can eat 2.76% !!
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 02:40:52 pm
... 1990 ....this is wat i dun .....don't activate card for now  and dont  finnish account setup untill yur sorted .....any money in yur business account can be sent to yur bank account....
Simply open the sumup app ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/8sDftPq5/Screenshot-20221012-094903-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8sDftPq5)

Press ACCOUNT


(https://i.postimg.cc/G4Nqysg9/Screenshot-20221012-095025-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4Nqysg9)


Then type in yur name an Iban


(https://i.postimg.cc/HVnw9kyM/Screenshot-20221012-095239-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVnw9kyM)

Yur money goes into yur bank account next day

It looks good, but is it 0% commission ?
Yea Ken...free

Temporary solution of course ...



If 1990 goes into settings
(https://i.postimg.cc/crTLQC5N/Screenshot-20221012-112325-Sum-Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/crTLQC5N)

He can change his money goin back into his bank account...
Not sure if this works yet as I've bean off few days an no money comin in ....mite be more steps to take but for us procrastinators  oops
If'n it's actually Free, then take it, no worries.
But be sure there is a get-out clause when fees are introduced !
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 12, 2022, 02:53:56 pm
It's a poxy euro out of every 100 Ken. Your greed is unreal.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 12, 2022, 03:14:09 pm
It's a poxy euro out of every 100 Ken. Your greed is unreal.
Looking back on previous posts, I reckon you lost this one spectacularly Horse !

Is that really your best shot Horse ?
I expected better from you !

But sure as your a Tallaght-mong, my expectations of you were never too high !!
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 12, 2022, 03:21:49 pm
I'd say you charge yer ma for a lift down the shop ya hungry cnut. With extras.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 12, 2022, 03:50:09 pm
Ken was out working one cold, wet, windy day. It really was a bad day weather wise. He was driving down the road and next minute he sees his ma up ahead with her hand stuck out for a taxi. She was shivering from the cold the poor dear. What does Ken do? He b lines the wrong way down a one way street to avoid giving a freebie. The hungry cnut.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Bob Shillin on October 12, 2022, 05:40:26 pm
There hasn't been a bit of a barney around here in ages. Was getting a bit boring tbh. Nice one lads!

Also if anyone is looking for an alternative to sumup I use cabapp and have not had any problems yet.
Would you ever Fook off with that dinosaur cab-app yoke, astronomical fees and needs to be charged every few days !
Bollocks on that !!
Astronomical yeah, €1.06 extra in every €100. Paid by card in the airport at 5am, cash in bank when I get up in the afternooon.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 12, 2022, 05:48:45 pm
I don't think you're wide to the severity of kens meanness Bob. The man is unreal.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 12, 2022, 07:12:07 pm
Check your statement ..The total amount of €18,88 has been transferred to your SumUp Card ending in .

The old invoice The total amount of €16,12 has been transferred to your bank account 14****79 and will
be available to you in 1–2 business days.


The top one is the new one and your funds have been transferred on to THEIR CARD ,,the bottom one is the old one so check out the wording of the invoice
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 12, 2022, 08:02:13 pm
Just got an email saying I'd turned on invoices! At this rate, SumUp will be driving my taxi by the end of the week  :P

And probably spending my money too  ::)
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 12, 2022, 08:15:57 pm
Watty I just sent them this message ...This invoice says payment to my sum up card .I have no such card .If my funds have been diverted from my bank account I shall contact the irish banking ombudsman to complain about illegal diversion of my funds .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 12, 2022, 09:04:18 pm
So you got the 'invoice' email as well?  Did we all get volunteered for this as well?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 12, 2022, 10:02:21 pm
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Complain to your financial service provider and allow it the time to try and resolve your complaint
 Step 2
Submit online complaint form, give details of your complaint and the final response letter from the financial service provider
 Step 3
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When submitting your online complaint form it is important that you present your complaint in a clear and concise manner. You should detail what has happened to date, and how you feel you have a legitimate complaint. On submitting your online complaint form it is important that you include copies of relevant documentation. It is vital that you submit the final response letter from the provider stating that its internal procedure has been exhausted and the complaint cannot be resolved. A facility to upload these documents electronically is available. If you are unable to upload your documents or the attachments are too big, please send them to us in the post or via email info@fspo.ie with your reference number clearly stated. Your reference number will be issued when you submit this online Complaint.

Please note that if your financial service provider has either failed to engage with you or a period of 40 days has passed since you made a complaint to it you may submit a complaint to this office without the final response letter from the provider.

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Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 12, 2022, 11:34:56 pm
I think I have managed to transfer the money to my bank account. no thanks to sumup who were supposed to email me twice over the last 3 days. very poor customer service and the guy i was talking to this morning may as well have been a bot, he was as much use as a chocolate teapot. card was cancelled at least.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 13, 2022, 07:52:33 am
https://ie.trustpilot.com/review/sumup.co.uk  They have problems
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 13, 2022, 11:30:20 am
Credit cards and charge cards
A credit card is a plastic card issued by a financial institution that allows you to obtain goods, services or cash up to a stipulated credit limit. You then pay the credit card company for the amount of the total transactions you charge on the card. Interest is charged on any outstanding balance each month.

A charge card can be used like a credit card except no interest is charged since balances are paid by you at the end of each month.

The stamp duty is payable annually as follows:

Credit cards: €30
Charge cards: €30
The charge is for each account. You can have additional cards issued on an account without paying extra duty.

Companies that have a number of cards on one account must pay the duty on each card.

Stamp duty is generally collected on 1 April for the previous year. The tax year for the stamp duty begins on April 2.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 13, 2022, 12:03:51 pm
Get back up give this crowd a look ..https://lopay.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjw7p6aBhBiEiwA83fGugfBT6xJ4q89ndY3Wf6lNRvgu-TAuKmLVgCubnXYGPwUENxum5x_yxoCN80QAvD_BwE
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 13, 2022, 01:36:50 pm
Get back up give this crowd a look ..https://lopay.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjw7p6aBhBiEiwA83fGugfBT6xJ4q89ndY3Wf6lNRvgu-TAuKmLVgCubnXYGPwUENxum5x_yxoCN80QAvD_BwE

Wont take Irish Clients ?When you go to register .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 13, 2022, 02:16:45 pm
I'd say you charge yer ma for a lift down the shop ya hungry cnut. With extras.
I wish ! She is 82.5 fit as a fiddle and still drives and plays golf weekly !!
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 13, 2022, 02:17:38 pm
There hasn't been a bit of a barney around here in ages. Was getting a bit boring tbh. Nice one lads!

Also if anyone is looking for an alternative to sumup I use cabapp and have not had any problems yet.
Would you ever Fook off with that dinosaur cab-app yoke, astronomical fees and needs to be charged every few days !
Bollocks on that !!
Astronomical yeah, €1.06 extra in every €100. Paid by card in the airport at 5am, cash in bank when I get up in the afternooon.
Ah Jaysus ! Not you too Harry !!
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 13, 2022, 02:23:10 pm
Watty I just sent them this message ...This invoice says payment to my sum up card .I have no such card .If my funds have been diverted from my bank account I shall contact the irish banking ombudsman to complain about illegal diversion of my funds .
I thought you opted out with no problems ??
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 13, 2022, 02:26:55 pm
Went out this morning with our kid for breakfast paid by card .Girl who owns the Place didnt know anything about the Sum Up card she checked and her money was diverted into a card account .I have a deal with Creditors and I must inform them if I open a new credit or bank account .I also have standing Orders for Car Insurance ,Toll roads ,from my Bank Account if my funds are diverted into a Sum Up account I could miss a payment and find I am not insured or get Toll road Fines .How many days does it take to transfer YOUR money from their card to YOUR Bank ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 13, 2022, 02:28:41 pm
Watty I just sent them this message ...This invoice says payment to my sum up card .I have no such card .If my funds have been diverted from my bank account I shall contact the irish banking ombudsman to complain about illegal diversion of my funds .
I thought you opted out with no problems ??

I got an E mail informed me my Card Account was closed but my funds are not in my bank yet .Gave Joe Duffy quick E mail .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 13, 2022, 02:53:08 pm
I just checked my bank account and sumup paid me last weekends sales on Tuesday.
And I did opt out.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 13, 2022, 03:01:21 pm
I just checked my bank account and sumup paid me last weekends sales on Tuesday.
And I did opt out.

I once had a problem by not opting in .Its sharp practice Ken .They are retaining funds as capital to make them look more solvent .If you dont spend the coin on their card how long does it take to transfer from their card into your account .Add that to the time it takes to get it from your customer to your card account .They have retained your coin for longer .Its an accounting exercise and they also get commission on what you spend on their card .I only want the Card Conversion service and I pay them for it I do not want their Card .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 13, 2022, 03:21:22 pm
Just switch providers. That's what I'd do if they pissed me off. Like I did with fn, hungry cnuts, I don't use them anymore,  don't need to.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 13, 2022, 03:21:51 pm
I agree with you John M but fer a simple life I just opted out.

I'd say a few people saw the 0% commission bit and did not opt out hoping fer the best.

But fer me when the Boffin sez opt out, he is usually right !
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 13, 2022, 03:24:24 pm
Just switch providers. That's what I'd do if they pissed me off. Like I did with fn, hungry cnuts, I don't use them anymore,  don't need to.
Your stoopidity has to be admired Horse !!  lol
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 13, 2022, 05:11:12 pm
Your greed  doesn't Ken
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 13, 2022, 05:33:28 pm
Your greed  doesn't Ken
I know your pretty stoopid Horse but as your from Tallaght ya kinda get a pass on that !
Would you not switch over to sumup fer half your current commission ?
As fer charging if you are charging all the time then you must have multiple wires in your Toyota cab as your car is basically the same spec as mine.
As an OCD head I hate wires in the car and I have just the one phone charger wire (very neat) over the steering wheel.
Set up with sumup is pretty simple I hear, and as you have kids they would prob do it fer you in about 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Bob Shillin on October 13, 2022, 05:53:54 pm
There hasn't been a bit of a barney around here in ages. Was getting a bit boring tbh. Nice one lads!

Also if anyone is looking for an alternative to sumup I use cabapp and have not had any problems yet.
Would you ever Fook off with that dinosaur cab-app yoke, astronomical fees and needs to be charged every few days !
Bollocks on that !!
Astronomical yeah, €1.06 extra in every €100. Paid by card in the airport at 5am, cash in bank when I get up in the afternooon.
Ah Jaysus ! Not you too Harry !!
Can't argue with the truth Ken.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 13, 2022, 06:02:16 pm
I've an adapter with 2 ports on that and a separate built-in USB port for my card thingy so 3 altogether all beside the centre console so no wires everywhere.  So you reckon all 103000 people from tallaght are stupid eh? Only someone with the intellect of a banana would come out with a sweeping statement like that so you are technically the dumb ass round here Ken.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 13, 2022, 06:14:15 pm
Ken is not only the greediest man in the town but also the thickest too. You best jog on there Ken, you're getting slaughtered,  again.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 13, 2022, 06:16:40 pm
Even Bob seen through your bullshit
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 13, 2022, 08:26:19 pm
I've an adapter with 2 ports on that and a separate built-in USB port for my card thingy so 3 altogether all beside the centre console so no wires everywhere.  So you reckon all 103000 people from tallaght are stupid eh? Only someone with the intellect of a banana would come out with a sweeping statement like that so you are technically the dumb ass round here Ken.
I have just one phone adaptor/charger in the center consule wired through to beside the clutch and over the steering wheel (very neat), if'n you have 3 chargers on the go then I don't see how that would be considered as neat.

As fer the good folk of Tallaght being Stoopid ?
Do we really need to go there ??
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 13, 2022, 08:36:44 pm
I don't have 3 chargers on the go Ken, I have 3 ports though iffin I need them. My card reader is always plugged in with the wire going neatly from in front of the centre console to inside it, with about 6 inches of wire visible but not in the way. As I don't use pox now anymore my phone does not need to be charged when I'm working as that poxy app was the only thing draining it. So in effect my setup is way neater than your half arsed operation with wires dangerously close to your feet. I wonder if the nct or the suitability inspectors seen your death trap setup would they fail you for having wires around the pedal area. God knows they should.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 13, 2022, 08:41:46 pm
Not to mention what would happen iffin your wire got tangled around the steering wheel while overtaking a cyclist. The poor guy would end up creamed if your danger mo beel came anywhere near him. The chances some guys take for a buck is shocking to say the least but I guess we are talking about Ken here, the hungriest man this side of the mississippi.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 13, 2022, 08:49:36 pm
I don't have 3 chargers on the go Ken, I have 3 ports though iffin I need them. My card reader is always plugged in with the wire going neatly from in front of the centre console to inside it, with about 6 inches of wire visible but not in the way. As I don't use pox now anymore my phone does not need to be charged when I'm working as that poxy app was the only thing draining it. So in effect my setup is way neater than your half arsed operation with wires dangerously close to your feet. I wonder if the nct or the suitability inspectors seen your death trap setup would they fail you for having wires around the pedal area. God knows they should.
To explain in more detail (seeing as your from Fookin Tallaght) the 1 charger wire that I use is drilled throught the center consule and comes out of the gear hoarding panel beside the clutch and up over the steering wheel and is no where near the pedals.
Is everyone from Tallaght this Stoopid or is it just Horse ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 13, 2022, 08:52:32 pm
Ken you have a wire in the footwell and it goes around the steering wheel,  you know, that big roundy thing that stops you crashing into stuff. You're sum fooking chancer.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 13, 2022, 09:03:49 pm
Ken you have a wire in the footwell and it goes around the steering wheel,  you know, that big roundy thing that stops you crashing into stuff. You're sum fooking chancer.
No, it's not in the footwell, and it goes OVER the steering wheel NOT AROUND !

Are all folk from Tallaght as Stoopid as Horse ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 13, 2022, 09:09:57 pm
I shouldn't be surprised really. I mean this is the guy who sellotaped a fooking bin bag to his car and tried to pass it off as a bleedin safety screen.  Sum man for one man is our Ken.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 13, 2022, 09:11:33 pm
Ken you have a wire in the footwell and it goes around the steering wheel,  you know, that big roundy thing that stops you crashing into stuff. You're sum fooking chancer.
No, it's not in the footwell, and it goes OVER the steering wheel NOT AROUND !

Are all folk from Tallaght as Stoopid as Horse ?

Over the steering wheel,  around the steering wheel.  What's the bleedin difference Ken? Your jalopy is a death trap, end of story.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Octavia1 on October 13, 2022, 09:19:02 pm
Even Bob seen through your bullshit

Once Bob sees tru someone's bullshit ...ther doomed Horse....no flies on our Bob....
Wish I cud say the same bout kens back seat  lol
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Horse on October 13, 2022, 09:27:23 pm
  rofl
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 13, 2022, 09:36:20 pm
I transferred the money on my card to my usual bank account yesterday, money showed up in my bank account today.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Octavia1 on October 13, 2022, 09:57:04 pm
I transferred the money on my card to my usual bank account yesterday, money showed up in my bank account today.
Good stuff 1990 ....I went into settings ...an " payout settings "" an chose " direct to bank account " ...an they sent me an email this mornin said.. a big rigmarole but the jist was the following
" Please note that all your future transactions will be credited to your registered bank account.

As the SumUp Card cancellation is irreversible, we request you destroy the chip and dispose of the SumUp Card upon delivery. Rest assured, we have blocked your SumUp Card permanently."
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 13, 2022, 10:36:48 pm
My problem was I told the mongs not to go near my coin but it got trapped on their card and I refused to activate the card I dont want it never ordered it .They transfered me coin into me bank after 23 different e mails or conversations with them .If it was in America it would be wire fraud diverting your money onto their card without your permission .I refused to reset my settings as I am not employed by them .
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: taxi1990 on October 13, 2022, 10:54:31 pm
I transferred the money on my card to my usual bank account yesterday, money showed up in my bank account today.
Good stuff 1990 ....I went into settings ...an " payout settings "" an chose " direct to bank account " ...an they sent me an email this mornin said.. a big rigmarole but the jist was the following
" Please note that all your future transactions will be credited to your registered bank account.

As the SumUp Card cancellation is irreversible, we request you destroy the chip and dispose of the SumUp Card upon delivery. Rest assured, we have blocked your SumUp Card permanently."


They sent me an email as well, said to destroy the card but didnt say anything about where my future payments will go, even though I asked them about it.

it was a joke that I had to transfer the money, like they transferred it easily enough to the card but couldn't transfer it back to my bank account when I asked them to do it.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: silverbullet on October 13, 2022, 11:22:58 pm
I haven't heard from Sumup, maybe I don't earn enough through them to bother.
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: Belker on October 16, 2022, 10:02:16 am
Any news on fees charged from any of the above 3 named who stopped their cards ?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 16, 2022, 08:58:18 pm
Get ready for this one .Buy first Pay later Apps .How it works .Giddion Pratchet from the Gaffs has no coin but he has one of these Buy now pay later apps .He takes a taxi with Free Now  jumps into your car and the App company pay you {sort of like the idea the lad from Galway had but hadnt got the money }The people backing this are BILLIONAIRES .Its interest free so the app makes its money from the shop service provider .In our case Free Now or Uber or whoever the customer uses ,So expect when these apps come along the freight to increase .So the advantage of card payments from random customers will be lost as the Taxi hailing apps will offer a chance to take a taxi when you have no money .



https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/loans/buy-now-pay-later/#:~:text=Buy%20now%2C%20pay%20later%20(BNPL)%20is%20a%20simple%20concept,the%20cost%20of%20your%20shopping. (https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/loans/buy-now-pay-later/#:~:text=Buy%20now%2C%20pay%20later%20(BNPL)%20is%20a%20simple%20concept,the%20cost%20of%20your%20shopping.)
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: watty on October 16, 2022, 09:13:27 pm
Are you suggesting that people will use 'Buy Now Pay Later' for a €10 taxi fare?  And that apps like FN are enthusiastic about this?  The idea might work for expensive TVs or fridges but surely the admin/office costs in chasing a bad €10 taxi fare would dwarf any profit from 1,000 €10 taxi fares?
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: John m on October 16, 2022, 09:43:56 pm
Are you suggesting that people will use 'Buy Now Pay Later' for a €10 taxi fare?  And that apps like FN are enthusiastic about this?  The idea might work for expensive TVs or fridges but surely the admin/office costs in chasing a bad €10 taxi fare would dwarf any profit from 1,000 €10 taxi fares?

YES Pizza hut are using it in Britain .Lets say you have no coin after a night out and if you use Free Now you can get your taxi as long as you have one of these apps .Free Now dont care how you pay if it costs them 5% comission they will just do the sums .If 25% of their work is paid for by this method they will just increase the COMISSION WE PAY to cover the expense .Even though they already pay a clearing bank to service their card payments .Why do you think they have so many pay by Cash jobs now .If the customer pays you or me by card WE pay the Handling Fee not coming out of the Free Now 15% but out of our pocket .Why do you think they were offering Free Sum Up terminals .They always planned to transfer the card processing fees from their 15% over to us
Title: Re: Sum Up Card
Post by: silverbullet on October 17, 2022, 07:22:43 pm
Sumup terminal froze in Portmarnock last night. I have to click on my initials to get to the QR code or camera on the Revolut App. There used to be a QR icon until recently.