Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Belker on October 29, 2022, 06:02:02 am
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Would You buy an EV as a Taxi ?
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About 10% of the fleet will be EV by the end of the current grant scheme.
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Only if a home charger ting was available....how much is it to install one in yur driveway ?
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Only if a home charger ting was available....how much is it to install one in yur driveway ?
Circa 1200-1300 with a grant of 600 available afaik to knock off that.
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Fuck them poxy greens. They can shove their grants up their manure pits.
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Only if a home charger ting was available....how much is it to install one in yur driveway ?
I reckon home charging will relatively quickly become old technology or a poor man's option. Private houses are very much restricted in terms of power output reasonably available. In general terms it's not viable (or even possible with current supply infrastructure) to power anything much higher than 10 KWH (AC). Charging technology with increase way beyond that within filling stations and as charging technology increases so will vehicle consumption.
Think of it like tinternet. 20 years ago we had dial up...but rolling out huge electricity power capacity to private houses will never be viable... unlike (fibre optic) broadband.
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Eventually you'll have a big battery (eg Tesla Powerwall) at the centre with clever software managing the power distribution to/from house, solar panels and cars.
IMHO :P
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No matter how well you manage a gaffs power it's still generally restricted to 64 amps which equates to 15KW (AC) total at any given time. Filling stations are already offering 50KW (DC) EV chargers. That'll surely increase very significantly as time moves on, domestic supply infrastructure is unlikely to increase significantly, if at all.
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Battery tec will change to Turbo Dump .Where you pull into a Electric Garage plug in and they hit your battery with turbo charged energy take about as long to recharge as refill with Diesel .Todays Ev are equal to old Typewriters they do the job but your laptop or phone can do it better .100% EV in any of our lifetimes will not happen .To much money still buried in the Ground in Liquid Gold .Hydrogen is bolloxology .It only gives off water as exhaust so ice rinks in winter and floods the rest of the year round as all that water evaporates .So no I would not buy an EV .
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Only if a home charger ting was available....how much is it to install one in yur driveway ?
Ifn ye have a driveway
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Only if a home charger ting was available....how much is it to install one in yur driveway ?
Ifn ye have a driveway
Jack read the Councils blueprint for Dublin .No on street parking between the canals in Dublin .Makes you wonder if Free Now or Ebbs might have a depot where they recharge cars and Rent a Shift becomes a thing .Lads living in Corpo flats complexes wont be able to recharge or living in inner city gaffs with no gardens .Its all disjointed fuckology .Is it any wonder younger drivers dont want any part of the industry .
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Only if a home charger ting was available....how much is it to install one in yur driveway ?
Ifn ye have a driveway
Jack read the Councils blueprint for Dublin .No on street parking between the canals in Dublin .Makes you wonder if Free Now or Ebbs might have a depot where they recharge cars and Rent a Shift becomes a thing .Lads living in Corpo flats complexes wont be able to recharge or living in inner city gaffs with no gardens .Its all disjointed fuckology .Is it any wonder younger drivers dont want any part of the industry .
Nicely extrapolated.
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What we are seeing is appeasement of the Greens so others can stay in Power ..The best way to reduce our emissions is to reduce the population of Dogs .Think about it .They eat and fart but produce nothing of real value .Companionship can be provided by the Metaverse or Followers on Facebook .All these things are individual policy decisions .Instead of expensive bike lanes and tax breaks for bike or Ev owners .The solution is in the Past a Good reliable Public owned Bus service .Decent local schools and shops .We all believed bigger is better Local corner shops are all gone and now they complain about traffic around big shopping centers and charge to park .One snowey winter and the Bikelane fuckology will be exposed .Its Environmental Group think like the Groupthink that fucked up the banks .
We had trams in the 1900s they didnt work then so we are going to try them again .We had Bikes in the 1940s they didnt work then so we will try again .We had tennament blocks in the 1920s they didnt work then so we will try again .Westlife Politics rerelease old Songs in Government its re release old Policies .
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What we are seeing is appeasement of the Greens so others can stay in Power ..The best way to reduce our emissions is to reduce the population of Dogs .Think about it .They eat and fart but produce nothing of real value .Companionship can be provided by the Metaverse or Followers on Facebook .All these things are individual policy decisions .Instead of expensive bike lanes and tax breaks for bike or Ev owners .The solution is in the Past a Good reliable Public owned Bus service .Decent local schools and shops .We all believed bigger is better Local corner shops are all gone and now they complain about traffic around big shopping centers and charge to park .One snowey winter and the Bikelane fuckology will be exposed .Its Environmental Group think like the Groupthink that fucked up the banks .
We had trams in the 1900s they didnt work then so we are going to try them again .We had Bikes in the 1940s they didnt work then so we will try again .We had tennament blocks in the 1920s they didnt work then so we will try again .Westlife Politics rerelease old Songs in Government its re release old Policies .
What we are seeing is appeasement of the Greens so others can stay in Power ..The best way to reduce our emissions is to reduce the population of Dogs .
Fixed yer post.
Overpopulation is key. Putin might save the planet should he use a nuclear weapon.
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No matter how well you manage a gaffs power it's still generally restricted to 64 amps which equates to 15KW (AC) total at any given time. Filling stations are already offering 50KW (DC) EV chargers. That'll surely increase very significantly as time moves on, domestic supply infrastructure is unlikely to increase significantly, if at all.
Home charging overnight at 7-11kWh while you sleep is enough more most people most of the time. Most people would only charge once or twice a week. It's high mileage edge-cases like taxis or delivery vans that are the problem.
External chargers of upto 300kWh are already available but there are only 1 or 2 EV's capable of using that much power at the moment (cf 400V (current architecture) Vs 800V (future tech) (https://insideevs.com/news/580829/ev-industry-shifting-to-800-volt-2025/))
The elephant in the room, as JohnM mentions, is DCC/the Greens policy of promoting car-free residential areas. It's contradictory to promote EV's whilst not developing the infrastructure to power them (eg new housing estates with no driveways or apartment blocks with no chargers in the facility).
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Only if a home charger ting was available....how much is it to install one in yur driveway ?
Firstly (as Watty might explain) you need to check that your home wiring can take a home charger.
Secondly there are or were 2 grants, 1 from the dealer and 1 from FN, both 600.
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The SEAI gives out the Govt grant of €600 for the home charger. Anything from the dealer is optional.
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The SEAI gives out the Govt grant of €600 for the home charger. Anything from the dealer is optional.
Do FN still offer to match the SEAI grant up to 600 in commission rebate ?
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No idea.
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Fuck that.
I still see some lads in new ICE cars being driven as a taxi. 22156; lovely.
Lekky heeps are nice, grants are nice. But both eventually come to a end.
Ya really think the greens are gonna let ya change back to a ICE car after plating up a EV with the grant?
Not on your nelly.
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Home charging overnight at 7-11kWh while you sleep is enough more most people most of the time. Most people would only charge once or twice a week. It's high mileage edge-cases like taxis or delivery vans that are the problem.
External chargers of upto 300kWh are already available but there are only 1 or 2 EV's capable of using that much power at the moment (cf 400V (current architecture) Vs 800V (future tech) (https://insideevs.com/news/580829/ev-industry-shifting-to-800-volt-2025/))
The elephant in the room, as JohnM mentions, is DCC/the Greens policy of promoting car-free residential areas. It's contradictory to promote EV's whilst not developing the infrastructure to power them (eg new housing estates with no driveways or apartment blocks with no chargers in the facility).
Dial up tinternet was sufficient back when all that was available was HTML web pages and email. Now we have porn on demand, Netflix, etc...
My sister has an EV since 2019 and I think she's charged it at home twice... although the fact that she can't reclaim the cost of home charging might have some bearing on that. Worth noting she is the Financial Controller so she only has herself to blame!
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I've no link but I believe most European countries are going for a basic 10-20Mb/sec connection as the minimum 'high speed' internet for houses. Netflix only asks for, what, 2-5?
Presumably your sister charges at work for free. Nice. I don't think there is an any BIK if the charging box is available to all in the company. Could be wrong though.
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Ya really think the greens are gonna let ya change back to a ICE car after plating up a EV with the grant? Not on your nelly.
What? Nobody told me. Damn feckers, them Greens ::fds
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She does charge at work when she's in the office but most of her electricity is used pulling the horsebox around at the weekend. I know ('cos I've been with her) that she'll go out of her way to find a fast charger at a garage rather than wait 'till she gets home to use the charger the company installed for her. The one up at City North is supposed to fill her motor (an Audi 4*4) from 20 to 80% in 20 mins, I think it took closer to 32 mins when I was with her. Anyway the fuel card is on the company's account so that costs her nothing. I'm not sure about the BIK position but I do know there was or is some exemption for EVs. When she was originally going electric she was going for a Tesla but the rules changed putting that outside the BIC exemption limit or band or something so she had to take a poxy hundred grand Audi instead... as far as I recall. She used to navigate the BIK rules by driving a 4*4 with a small flat back which was classified as a van or commercial vehicle and she's always had it in her contract that her company car has to be capable of pulling a double horse box.
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I'm surprised youse were disappointed with the chargers at City North. They are rated at 350kWh and are by far the most powerful chargers available at the moment. ESB Networks might have messed up and not supplied enough 'juice' to them though so they don't charge at 100%*. Ionity chargers are also easily the most expensive chargers in the country and are more expensive than diesel. This is a plus in a way because nobody uses them so they are usually empty if you can afford them! Another limiting factor re EV charging is how fast the car can input electricity. My MG5 can 'only' take in 80kWh max so a 350 charger would be wasted on me.
* This is quite common with ESBN. They also have a habit of installing 4 'plugs' but only 3 parking spaces with their charging stations!
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I don't think she was disappointed. In fact, I think she's a regular at that site because there's plenty of room for her horsebox - although she didn't have that when I was with her, we were at Bellewstown races... backing rather than towing horses. I guess the 20 mins is a headline figure assuming ideal coditions, etc... and the motor is 3 years old and well (ab)used at this atage.