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Title: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on January 10, 2023, 03:43:26 pm
Pros:

1. Automatic gearbox. Never driven an auto car before. Absolute dream to cruise around in. Like whizzin around in a go-cart.
2. Excellent fuel economy. Stated 60mpg. There's 3 drive modes - eco, normal and sport. I keep it in sport it gives the car a lovely bit of punch to get going from a stop. Real world driving between normal roads and motorway usage solid 50mpg. I'd say 60mpg is attainable if you stay in eco mode.
3. Aulwans love it. The male and the female variety.


Cons:

1. Keyless fob entry. Was'nt a fan initially. Where do you rest the key. I put it in my shirt pocket. Also if you forget something you can go back inta the mansion with the keys and leave the car running with the heat on etc.
2. Engine is very quiet. Never realised how much i like the grrrrrrr blup blup blup grrrrrrrr of a diesel engine. On the plus I speak very softly like Clint Eastwood so cunts can hear me now but ye can also hear the mad voices that scream over and over in your head.
3. Very limited stash places. In a stayra shock there was no little drawer for coins. Bought a little coin organiser and velcroed it neatly beside the steering wheel. Very small glovebox. Shallow center console stash compartment as well.
4. Seatbelt alarms. Broke the world record for the amounta times i hadta say will ye throw a fuckin belt on please. Realised that 75% of cunts don't wanna wear a belt. Pissheads and belts don't jive. A lorra times I gave up and just drove around listenin to BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP. Mechanic and the bogeys in Denis Mahoney would'nt turn them off. loada bollocks. If ye put someone through the windscreen the insurance crowd will wanna know who turdind them off for ye etc. I'll throw yiz a wunner each. No joy. Hadta duck out of the game for the guts of 2 weeks until i got an OBD yoke and disabled them. I fuckinnnnnnnnnnn love lookin down at the instrumental panel and seeing all the red seat belt lights goin 90 and not a fuckin peep in the car. I think of the torture i went through the first month I had the car.
5. Damned listenin to cunts sayin is this car lectric/hybird.
6. Mirrors are muck. Very small.
7. Car is very low which i presume is a nod to the fuel efficent hybrid aerodynamic streamlined thinking. When i got the car gettin in i caught myself goin "Oh be te fuckahhhhhhhhhhhhh" and when i was gerrin out "Yeeearghhhhupowadahhhhhhhhh."
She saysta to me you're makin a lorra fuckin noise in the garden. Hope ye did'nt make a bollocks of yourself buyin that car. The NTA are probably gonna extend the age rules anyway ye shaggin eejit ye. Also it's not uncommon in fact it's fairly standard for cunts out in the field to hit their heads gettin in.
8. The less said about tryna load 4 fat cunts on board the better.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: silverbullet on January 10, 2023, 03:57:55 pm
Pros:

1. Automatic gearbox. Never driven an auto car before. Absolute dream to cruise around in. Like whizzin around in a go-cart.
2. Excellent fuel economy. Stated 60mpg. There's 3 drive modes - eco, normal and sport. I keep it in sport it gives the car a lovely bit of punch to get going from a stop. Real world driving between normal roads and motorway usage solid 50mpg. I'd say 60mpg is attainable if you stay in eco mode.
3. Aulwans love it. The male and the female variety.


Cons:

1. Keyless fob entry. Was'nt a fan initially. Where do you rest the key. I put it in my shirt pocket. Also if you forget something you can go back inta the mansion with the keys and leave the car running with the heat on etc.
2. Engine is very quiet. Never realised how much i like the grrrrrrr blup blup blup grrrrrrrr of a diesel engine. On the plus I speak very softly like Clint Eastwood so cunts can hear me now but ye can also hear the mad voices that scream over and over in your head.
3. Very limited stash places. In a stayra shock there was no little drawer for coins. Bought a little coin organiser and velcroed it neatly beside the steering wheel. Very small glovebox. Shallow center console stash compartment as well.
4. Seatbelt alarms. Broke the world record for the amounta times i hadta say will ye throw a fuckin belt on please. Realised that 75% of cunts don't wanna wear a belt. Pissheads and belts don't jive. A lorra times I gave up and just drove around listenin to BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP. Mechanic and the bogeys in Denis Mahoney would'nt turn them off. loada bollocks. If ye put someone through the windscreen the insurance crowd will wanna know who turdind them off for ye etc. I'll throw yiz a wunner each. No joy. Hadta duck out of the game for the guts of 2 weeks until i got an OBD yoke and disabled them. I fuckinnnnnnnnnnn love lookin down at the instrumental panel and seeing all the red seat belt lights goin 90 and not a fuckin peep in the car. I think of the torture i went through the first month I had the car.
5. Damned listenin to cunts sayin is this car lectric/hybird.
6. Mirrors are muck. Very small.
7. Car is very low which i presume is a nod to the fuel efficent hybrid aerodynamic streamlined thinking. When i got the car gettin in i caught myself goin "Oh be te fuckahhhhhhhhhhhhh" and when i was gerrin out "Yeeearghhhhupowadahhhhhhhhh."
She saysta to me you're makin a lorra fuckin noise in the garden. Hope ye did'nt make a bollocks of yourself buyin that car. The NTA are probably gonna extend the age rules anyway ye shaggin eejit ye. Also it's not uncommon in fact it's fairly standard for cunts out in the field to hit their heads gettin in.
8. The less said about tryna load 4 fat cunts on board the better.
Happy motoring Doc. Let's hope you never look back...at least with those mirrors! 8)
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: watty on January 10, 2023, 05:09:10 pm

4. Seatbelt alarms. Broke the world record for the amounta times i hadta say will ye throw a fuckin belt on please. Realised that 75% of cunts don't wanna wear a belt. Pissheads and belts don't jive. A lorra times I gave up and just drove around listenin to BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP. Mechanic and the bogeys in Denis Mahoney would'nt turn them off. loada bollocks. If ye put someone through the windscreen the insurance crowd will wanna know who turdind them off for ye etc. I'll throw yiz a wunner each. No joy. Hadta duck out of the game for the guts of 2 weeks until i got an OBD yoke and disabled them. I fuckinnnnnnnnnnn love lookin down at the instrumental panel and seeing all the red seat belt lights goin 90 and not a fuckin peep in the car. I think of the torture i went through the first month I had the car.

Congrats on your new car!  Hate to burst your bubble but the NCT look at the OBD computer nowadays so they're likely to pick up what you've disabled.  Might want to fix it before your NCT when it comes up...
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Bob Shillin on January 10, 2023, 05:21:31 pm
Wear well, thanks for the review.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Octavia1 on January 10, 2023, 06:25:11 pm
Love the seat belt alarms an very very  rare some ape ignores them  ....if yu have a collision that alarm cud stop some ape goin tru  you an then the windscreen .... oops
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Belker on January 11, 2023, 04:35:15 pm
....4. Seatbelt alarms. Broke the world record for the amounta times i hadta say will ye throw a fuckin belt on please.....
Well wear with your nua purchase DMG. ::cheers
A few questions as I intend on buying the same car when my license expires;
Does the Beep sound fer the back seatbelts ?
In my 171 Avensis the back seatbelts only beep if the customer pulls at it and then does not engage it, as in if'n they sit in and don't touch the belt then it does not beep in the backseats.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Belker on January 11, 2023, 04:41:29 pm
.... 7. Car is very low which i presume is a nod to the fuel efficent hybrid aerodynamic streamlined thinking. When i got the car gettin in i caught myself goin "Oh be te fuckahhhhhhhhhhhhh" and when i was gerrin out "Yeeearghhhhupowadahhhhhhhhh." .....
If'n I may ask DMG, what height are you ?
I'm 5,10 and I have to say after test driving a Corolla a few years ago that it was very slightly cramped.

PS. Thanks fer the informative review.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Belker on January 11, 2023, 04:54:51 pm
..... There's 3 drive modes - eco, normal and sport. I keep it in sport it gives the car a lovely bit of punch to get going from a stop. Real world driving between normal roads and motorway usage solid 50mpg. I'd say 60mpg is attainable if you stay in eco mode. .....
I don't have any experience of driving a car with these modes but only to say that I was in Korky's MG EV car last year as a passenger. He showed me the Gazzump that the MG had in Eco mode from a standing start and then in Sport mode, both were pretty spectacular but there wasn't a huge diffence in either mode to me.

Also what warranty and scrappage did you get ?
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on January 11, 2023, 07:21:57 pm
there's a red warning light and beeper for the front passanger and there's 3 separate warning lights and alarms for the rears. when someone gets in the front or the back as soon as you move they go beep.....beep.....beep.....beep.....beep. if they don't belt up after about 15 seconds they go BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP. i'm about 6 foot tall, 12 stone. Athletic build. the car is definately smaller than an avensis but not too much smaller. you can definately notice the difference between eco and sport mode on the car. i did'nt know it had different engine modes but one day i says what the fuck does that button do. slapped it to sport and the punch was felt straight away. i can't remember the warranty details. I'll havta check. i sold my old car to a neighbour. he knew how well i took care of it. cunts would often say is this a new car. so clean and lovely peggy dell.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Belker on January 12, 2023, 08:17:57 pm
Thanks fer the update DMG, what kind of seat covers did you get ?
I wanted the leaterette version fer my next intended but they seem unavailable on a Corolla ??
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on January 12, 2023, 10:10:42 pm
i got them here. they fitted them for me but they'll post them out to people to fit yourself. tailor made for the car.
https://seatcovers.ie/product/toyota-corolla-hybrid-saloon-2019-2023-black-heavy-vinyl-leather-3-year-warranty/
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Belker on January 12, 2023, 10:23:54 pm
i got them here. they fitted them for me but they'll post them out to people to fit yourself. tailor made for the car.
https://seatcovers.ie/product/toyota-corolla-hybrid-saloon-2019-2023-black-heavy-vinyl-leather-3-year-warranty/
Thanks DMG.
I bought a custom made lower back seat cover fer me current Joe, cost 130 delivered. The devils own job to fit the thing, never again. Your Frummer was money well spent.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Belker on January 14, 2023, 11:11:40 am
Toyota dimensions;

2018 Avensis;
Lenght, 187 inches.
Width, 71.3 inches.
Height, 58.3 inches.

2022 Corolla;
Lenght, 182.3 inches.
Width, 70.1 inches.
Height, 56.5 inches.

Prius;
Lenght, 178.7 inches.
Width, 69.3 inches.
Height, 58.6 inches.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Belker on January 14, 2023, 11:18:48 am
The last time I checked (July 2022) the nua Corolla petrol/hybrid/automatic was 28k, today it's 31k !
A 3k increase in 6 months !!
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 14, 2023, 12:54:11 pm
The estate version is a couple of grand more expensive again and all it takes to build it are a few extra windows.All the manufacturers are taking the piss.I remember looking in at the Toyota site a few years ago and the estate Corolla was 28k delivered.

If ya got all the grants you could have a Tesla for about 24k new.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 16, 2023, 04:37:15 pm
I'd go for the Tesla provided getting the roof sign attached to the glass roof is allowed and isn't cost-prohibitive.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 16, 2023, 05:06:32 pm
The Teslas are Nice yokes alright.Good to see the prices coming down a bit.

The Tesla model Y is slightly bigger for about 46/47 after the seai grant.I'd say it passes suitability as I seen one as a taxi in Berlin but the rear windows are tinted as standard.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 18, 2023, 07:44:01 pm
There's a few Teslas licensed as taxis, not sure on models/sizes but one or two date back to the last decade.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 18, 2023, 07:46:47 pm
I haven't seen a model Y yet plated up but expect to see some soon.There are a few model 3s already plated up and Model Sss as limos.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Octavia1 on January 18, 2023, 07:57:33 pm
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/17/tech/tesla-self-driving-video-staged

Wudny take  a tesla if I won it in a  bent freenow raffle
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 18, 2023, 08:00:52 pm
... as the fox said to the other fox.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on February 18, 2023, 04:02:08 am
headlight bulbs are a doddle to change. easiest car i've ever had. very easy to access the bulbs. no tight areas or covers to remove or bogey little clips to pry off. just rotate the bulb gently and out she pops. both my headlights and full beams went out after a car wash. gick 4 bulbs i thought but only 2 in the end. the one bulb controls the headlights and the full beams. a HIR2 bulb. brillo.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 18, 2023, 11:46:42 am
How much did they cost?
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Wingnut on February 18, 2023, 03:56:52 pm
The last time I checked (July 2022) the nua Corolla petrol/hybrid/automatic was 28k, today it's 31k !
A 3k increase in 6 months !!
I priced one in a couple of dealers recently and they are now €36k with delivery May/June.

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Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: silverbullet on February 18, 2023, 06:51:26 pm
The last time I checked (July 2022) the nua Corolla petrol/hybrid/automatic was 28k, today it's 31k !
A 3k increase in 6 months !!
I priced one in a couple of dealers recently and they are now €36k with delivery May/June.

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I think RC meant the bulbs. I have had the Prius for over four years and have only changed two headlight bulbs.
Weird that a Corolla would need to change bulbs after 6 months.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Bob Shillin on February 18, 2023, 08:06:46 pm
The last time I checked (July 2022) the nua Corolla petrol/hybrid/automatic was 28k, today it's 31k !
A 3k increase in 6 months !!
I priced one in a couple of dealers recently and they are now €36k with delivery May/June.

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I believe that wil be a new model with 3 versions of the estate 36k, 40k, and 42k
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 18, 2023, 08:31:39 pm
I was quoted 33500 a few months ago for the base model estate for delivery around now.Are yous sure it wasn't the one with the bigger alloys that's 36000.I couldn't drive the Toyota with 18 inch wheels I'd be wanting ear plugs.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Octavia1 on February 18, 2023, 10:55:05 pm
The last time I checked (July 2022) the nua Corolla petrol/hybrid/automatic was 28k, today it's 31k !
A 3k increase in 6 months !!
I priced one in a couple of dealers recently and they are now €36k with delivery May/June.

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I think RC meant the bulbs. I have had the Prius for over four years and have only changed two headlight bulbs.
Weird that a Corolla would need to change bulbs after 6 months.

It is weird ... i havnt changed any bulb in 5 yers on the prius   O:-)
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Bob Shillin on February 19, 2023, 12:29:05 am
I was quoted 33500 a few months ago for the base model estate for delivery around now.Are yous sure it wasn't the one with the bigger alloys that's 36000.I couldn't drive the Toyota with 18 inch wheels I'd be wanting ear plugs.
A complete new model I was told. Prices are gone crazy, it's a sellers market at the mo.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Billy boy on February 19, 2023, 08:37:42 am
i got them here. they fitted them for me but they'll post them out to people to fit yourself. tailor made for the car.
https://seatcovers.ie/product/toyota-corolla-hybrid-saloon-2019-2023-black-heavy-vinyl-leather-3-year-warranty/
make sure that the seat covers aren't covering up the vent in the back seat. This vent  is used to cool down the hybrid battery.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 19, 2023, 10:44:44 am
Just about the new Corolla there's a 2 liter hybrid being offered that has a more power.The 1.8 hybrid has plenty of power so hopefully the sales bloke isn't trying to sell us something we don't need.A  couple of grand between the price of them in the UK.

You could buy a Camry for 42k about 5 years ago I really wouldn't be spending that on a Corolla.I was in the estate Corolla in Spain recently and the rear leg room is smaller than my old Prius.No wonder so many drivers are taking the leccy grants.

.....
Just had a look at the Toyota Ireland website and the basic Corolla estate in Silver is about 32k.I don't think Toyota allow their dealers to charge much more than the listed website price.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Tony on February 19, 2023, 11:03:00 am
Just about the new Corolla there's a 2 liter hybrid being offered that has a more power.The 1.8 hybrid has plenty of power so hopefully the sales bloke isn't trying to sell us something we don't need.A  couple of grand between the price of them in the UK.

You could buy a Camry for 42k about 5 years ago I really wouldn't be spending that on a Corolla.I was in the estate Corolla in Spain recently and the rear leg room is smaller than my old Prius.No wonder so many drivers are taking the leccy grants.

.....
Just had a look at the Toyota Ireland website and the basic Corolla estate in Silver is about 32k.I don't think Toyota allow their dealers to charge much more than the listed website price.


Just get the new Dacia duster , it's a decent looking heap and a good few grand cheaper, don't forget all meters read the same
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 19, 2023, 11:10:27 am
Dacias look decent now Tony.I wonder if the new Dacia jogger passes suitability.

Mate of mine has a Dacia Logan and he doesn't like it as he's having electrical issues.First car I've seen in years with windy up windows.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Tony on February 19, 2023, 11:41:51 am
Dacias look decent now Tony.I wonder if the new Dacia jogger passes suitability.

Mate of mine has a Dacia Logan and he doesn't like it as he's having electrical issues.First car I've seen in years with windy up windows.

The Logan is a cheap base car, I was in the local renno garage looking at the new duster and I was impressed

Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Octavia1 on February 19, 2023, 12:52:30 pm
Dacias look decent now Tony.I wonder if the new Dacia jogger passes suitability.

Mate of mine has a Dacia Logan and he doesn't like it as he's having electrical issues.First car I've seen in years with windy up windows.

The Logan is a cheap base car, I was in the local renno garage looking at the new duster and I was impressed

Heaps of shit ....have a head on in that at 20 miles an hour yull end up in a box
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 19, 2023, 12:53:40 pm
That's lovely Tony.Although If I had 24k sitting around I'd probably gamble on a Tesla but the door handles would be a nightmare.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 19, 2023, 01:27:52 pm

Just get the new Dacia duster , it's a decent looking heap and a good few grand cheaper, don't forget all meters read the same

Is she petrol or diesel or electrical or hybrid?
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: John m on February 19, 2023, 01:38:22 pm
Cars Cars Cars ,Look at Eamo the Onion and how he changes his mind weekly .What happens when the Cabbages are out of Power ?EU cant make their minds up about when or if they ban Fosil fuels for cars or heating .We are running a business .Buy the Cheapest car part worn that can pass an NCT petrol or diesel if you are not doing over 30K a year its swings and roundabouts Diesel car more expensive fuel slightly cheaper .To quote some seriously influential American bloke" we know the knowings but we also dont know the unknowns "or some shit like that .Richi the Indian trying to keep 9 Ulster hates everybody MPs happy and Vlad the Butcher playing Burger meat Mountain with Zalesnyy the Circus Clown .Mr Wooh in China looking for Chips from Taiwan as he no longer can rely on rice to feed his people he needs chips .A new car going to cost you minimum 25K plus thats a lot of money for small business holders like us to invest in to our business with suck World uncertainty .

We are in a no win situation trying to run a taxi business Deregulation,Apps Political interference.Greenwashing .Keep your costs as low as you can .Never had a customer complain about the digits on the numberplate ?
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 19, 2023, 01:49:21 pm
Surely EV is the only way to go with all the grant money that horrible mean and nasty Minister is throwing at us, particularly given that second hand cars have gone ridiculously expensive since Brexit.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: John m on February 19, 2023, 02:00:17 pm
Surely EV is the only way to go with all the grant money that horrible mean and nasty Minister is throwing at us, particularly given that second hand cars have gone ridiculously expensive since Brexit.

Financially EVs look good but how long will they last built in depreciation as you park it up to charge it not earning anything .Unlike pot bellied taxi men who can stumble into a Diesel anytime a Flat EV wont get you out to work or round your birds od down to Paddy Powers .How much to fix broken bits is anudder unknown .My hens Wipers come on with the headlights .Motor electricians want to replace some unit and two looms in the steering colom want a K plus say its not worth their while stripping it down if they dont replace the looms .Motor electronics are not for Spanner and driver merchants like us .If the Giggling Pin or the Laughing Shaft in an EV go rogue the fixit price wont be a laughing matter .
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 19, 2023, 02:12:23 pm
Bar heavier tyre wear there seems to be a lot less maintenance in EVs. In a little over 4 years I've spent €1,411 maintaining my diesel and it's only covered 95,000 kilos in that time... and that's doing most of the work myself, only employing professionals to fit tyres and the timing belt kit. I'd imagine common faults and remedies will become as readily accesible for EVs as they are for normal cars as time progresses.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 19, 2023, 03:11:13 pm
I think RC meant the bulbs. I have had the Prius for over four years and have only changed two headlight bulbs.
Weird that a Corolla would need to change bulbs after 6 months.

I did mean the bulbs.

I only have my MKIII Octy since Jan 2019 and I've already had to replace a bulb - Driver side dipped headlight (H7) on 28/3/2020 which I bought in Applegreen for €7. Same bulbs are in the MKII Octy and they usually cost €5 from a motor factors, I can't remember why I went to Applegreen and paid more.... if there was some degree of urgency I can't remember what it was, it wasn't the NCT 'cos that's in December... ah well, I suppose it's only €2, I'll just have to assume there was a good reason behind such frivolity.

The MKII Octy has had 11 (yes ELEVEN) headlight bulbs since I bought it in Jan 2014 - 9 dipped (H7) and 2 main (H1) I think.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Wingnut on February 19, 2023, 03:26:57 pm
My 2011 Prius was flying through H11 bulbs, must have gone through at least 10 of these expensive bulbs before I changed them to the led equivalent. The leds are in it a few years now and still going strong, they also passed the nct.

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Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 19, 2023, 03:32:09 pm
Looking at how the MKII consumes bulbs it might be the case that the fiver ones from various motor factors are of inferior quality. Maybe the extra €2 in Applegreen was money well spent, only time will tell, I guess... Trouble is I have a spare from a motor factor in stock now 'cos I bought a pair of them when I last changed one in the MKII on 23/02/2022. In fact, now that I think of it, your man in the motor factors did mention more expensive (probably LED) alternatives... which I declined.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 19, 2023, 03:41:24 pm
Oh, I changed the number plate bulbs (presumably 2 cos I have the plural written down) in the MKIII as well at a cost of €3 on 31/7/2021.... done them the same day in the MKII as well... IIRC both had advisory NCT fails on number plate bulbs which, I think, means one of the two bulbs was faulty in each case. The MKII also had a fail on an indicator bulb (all the orange coating worn off) which is what prompted me to change all the bulbs that wanted changing whether necessary to pass the NCT or not.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: watty on February 19, 2023, 05:09:12 pm
Financially EVs look good but how long will they last built in depreciation as you park it up to charge it not earning anything .
Most people, incl taxi drivers, charge their EVs while they're asleep.  Try filling your diesel car while you're asleep and see how far you get  :P
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: John m on February 19, 2023, 05:41:14 pm
Financially EVs look good but how long will they last built in depreciation as you park it up to charge it not earning anything .
Most people, incl taxi drivers, charge their EVs while they're asleep.  Try filling your diesel car while you're asleep and see how far you get  :P

Ah but what will you do if Billy the Bastard and The One we dont Mention have two Latvian Belly Dancers on a promise of a nice weekend in Kilmuckridge and they offer you 5 x fifties to get them down there before 3.30 AM .I can go the Phoenix on the Ballyfermot Road for two Scores worth of diesel in me Pyjamas and cover the Job .You would need a fucking long extension lead .
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: watty on February 19, 2023, 06:24:57 pm
FWIW, in the past week, I've driven Dublin - Julianstown and Dublin - Trim without even thinking about the battery.  Each trip was ~50km each way? No need to charge on the way back either.

Google says Dublin to Kilmuckridge is 128 km.  So as long as I had "half a tank" (or even 40%), I could drive straight there and use one of the listed chargers on the way back?   I'm guessing it would cost me a tenner each way

Dublin is at the top and Kilmuckridge (K) is at the bottom.  That's only the ESB Ecars chargers.  There are other chargers as well.

(https://i.ibb.co/hZxd7KX/Kilmuckridge.jpg)


Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 11:56:39 am
Have you done any computation of average fuel cost per kilo, Watty?
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: watty on February 20, 2023, 12:27:13 pm
Yes and no. Prices are crazy at the moment and a few chargers are triple the price of home charging so one has to plan ahead a little bit when charging.

In 2022 when things were more stable, I paid (approx) €1.5k for 28k km which is roughly €5.37/100km
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 12:32:30 pm
I was gonna do a comparison but I haven't totalled 2022 yet!

aah 2021... I can do that, I think....
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: watty on February 20, 2023, 12:33:38 pm
I was confusing myself thinking about it but those numbers are for 2022, I think...because I got the car in Oct 2021.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: watty on February 20, 2023, 12:37:28 pm
Diesel - pick your assumptions and go from there...

6L/100km x €1.80/L = €10.80/100km
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 12:58:21 pm
Not as easy as I thought... with COVID '19 anall. I spent €1,110 on diesel, that's straightforward but kilometreage is subject to extrapolation given the following excerpts from my service records:

17/02/2020 = 150,625
02/04/2021 = 159,956
01/12/2021 = 170,754
09/02/2022 = 180,012

so I'd guesstimate
9,331 *3/13 = 2,153
+ 10798 = 10,798
+ 9258 / 2 = 4,629

which gives 17,580 kilos for €1,110 = €6.31/100 kilos

That's not right anyway... Not sure whether my computations or assumptions are out but, I'll go with the latter.

The car reports 6.7 litres/100 kilos for the last c.3,300 kilos which works out at €11.10 at the price I paid in Certa yesterday (165.8c/litre).
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 01:05:38 pm
That reminds me... there was a thread about AGM batteries that I started when I thought I needed one during COVID '19 anall but I can't find it now.

Anywaysanall with a bit of advice from MfH I gave the car a good run (up to Portadown, if memory serves) and made sure it was driven for at least 13 mins per week thereafter and all has been good... until recently. I've noticed that the Start/Stop is something of a rarity these days with the engine staying lit most of the time I'm stopped at lights. For MfH really, I guess... is it time to surrender to a new battery or should I wait and see if the brighter, warmer evenings ahead might see it through to next winter?
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: John m on February 20, 2023, 01:12:08 pm
One of the Unknown knowns that is unknown .How much will Eamo the Onion or Gretta the Wizard charge EV owners for end of life disposal .Will a Scrapped Ev have any real value ?Anybody still playing Flymbo on their Nintendo 64 ?Have EVs got inbuilt obsolescence .Big Dommo cant get an Eight Track Stereo tape player for his 1972 Cortina .Who remembers VCRs .Electronics move faster than The Culligan brothers up a drainpipe .Watty what is your expectation for the amount of years service from your Ev ?Do you expect to get the full 9 or is it 3 and change it ?
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Octavia1 on February 20, 2023, 01:19:08 pm
Not as easy as I thought... with COVID '19 anall. I spent €1,110 on diesel, that's straightforward but kilometreage is subject to extrapolation given the following excerpts from my service records:

17/02/2020 = 150,625
02/04/2021 = 159,956
01/12/2021 = 170,754
09/02/2022 = 180,012

so I'd guesstimate
9,331 *3/13 = 2,153
+ 10798 = 10,798
+ 9258 / 2 = 4,629

which gives 17,580 kilos for €1,110 = €6.31/100 kilos

That's not right anyway... Not sure whether my computations or assumptions are out but, I'll go with the latter.

The car reports 6.7 litres/100 kilos for the last c.3,300 kilos which works out at €11.10 at the price I paid in Certa yesterday (165.8c/litre).

Fukin hell....not bad maths for a second generation migrant  lol
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 01:26:02 pm
Thanks Octy... I actually qualified as an accountant many years ago. I guess, like many first generation migrants, my parents sought to take full advantage of the nation's educational opportunities. In my case, I ended up driving a cab for a living but both of my siblings followed middle class careers. I guess 2 outta 3 ain't bad!

At the kilometerage I cover I think I'd plan for 6 years and hope for 9 or 10, erm. I guess a ballpark figure for fuel savings (without taking taxation on resultant increased profit into account) would be 50%. Of course none of us have crystal testicles so we don't know how electricity and diesel prices might compare going forward or, indeed, whether we (individually, as a race or as a nation) will still be around in 6 or 10 or 12 years. Do you want to risk going to your grave having never owned an EV?
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: John m on February 20, 2023, 01:50:17 pm
Rodent the life expectancy of an EV changes the figures .My personal view is Hybrid looks the better option for Semi Employed drivers working a City .We are back to the Rumsfelds Known unknowns .The Japs are not rushing headlong into the EV Craze just yet ? I will apply for the EV Grant but if successful might not proceed I suppose there will be EV with 3 years service by the time I might make the decision which will be informed by then ..
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 20, 2023, 01:51:50 pm
Just saw that battery thing RC I dunno if I'm much use.Give it a good long charge with a trickle charger if you have one.Short drives might not be enough to keep it topped up.I use the cheap ones from Aldi and Lidl.Unless the battery fails completely I'd keep running it with the start stop disabled....they're fairly expensive batteries new.

If you're around Cabra you can take one of my chargers.Ya probably have a shed full of them though.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 01:55:58 pm
I have one in the shed alright, thanks. I think the battery is about a deuce. I bought one for the MKII Octy (not AGM) during COVID '19 anall. The best price I could find back then was around the corner from you in EBC.... in fact, he wasn't far off the best price up in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland... and they seem like a good crowd to deal with.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 03:12:29 pm
I'm not a hybrid fan, erm. In for a penny, in for a pound... Either fully fledged EV or stick with diesel would be my view. The fuel savings on hybrids aren't enough to justify all that extra technology under the bonnet IMO.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: John m on February 20, 2023, 03:37:58 pm
My reality A lot of miles on my dash got two or three more years out of what Im driving (fingers crossed )Doubt to many will want to lend to somebody a year or two from pension age .I will more than likely be looking at Part Worn .Covid will mean there might not be a lot of 3 or 4 year old Part Worn available .If the World ends or me Crypto investments takes off I might even call it a day when my present yoke ages out .Dont want to be borrowing to have to work to repay a loan .Cheap and cheerfull will be the ideal way to go .
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 04:18:03 pm
You could save the money. I know I shouldn't use 4 letter words like that but I haven't borrowed money for a car since I bought a new one in 2004. However, the last one I bought cost €11,975 and the one before that was €10,xxx. You'll get fuck all in that price range these days. While we were blindsided worrying about the price of a sliced pan Brexit rightly fucked up the second hand car market.

My dilemma is a bit more complex than yours as my current car is licensable until 2026... What if that's the first year there's no EV grant?
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Octavia1 on February 20, 2023, 04:33:51 pm
Thanks Octy... I actually qualified as an accountant many years ago. I guess, like many first generation migrants, my parents sought to take full advantage of the nation's educational opportunities. In my case, I ended up driving a cab for a living but both of my siblings followed middle class careers. I guess 2 outta 3 ain't bad!

At the kilometerage I cover I think I'd plan for 6 years and hope for 9 or 10, erm. I guess a ballpark figure for fuel savings (without taking taxation on resultant increased profit into account) would be 50%. Of course none of us have crystal testicles so we don't know how electricity and diesel prices might compare going forward or, indeed, whether we (individually, as a race or as a nation) will still be around in 6 or 10 or 12 years. Do you want to risk going to your grave having never owned an EV?

Perfect ....Will yu do me tax this yer so ......?
I think I can get tax relief off me shrink an stuff ...
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 04:39:02 pm
I'll give you a hand with it but you'd be filing yourself through ROS.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Belker on February 20, 2023, 05:06:26 pm
I'll give you a hand with it but you'd be filing yourself through ROS.
I have been contemplating doing that fer years as I pay me accountant a Hairy a year fer doing very little.
But last year she did come back to me explaining A B and C and adding in X Y and Z, which all meant very little to me but sounded very good, ended up owing nothing after paying next years preliminary and was told be getting 2.25 Large back, which I kinda didn't believe...... until I saw it on my bank statement !
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 05:20:32 pm
The fact that you gave them 2.25 large (too much) to get it back is difficult to reconcile with a ringing endorsement.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: watty on February 20, 2023, 05:24:59 pm
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My dilemma is a bit more complex than yours as my current car is licensable until 2026... What if that's the first year there's no EV grant?

The EV grant was EU money for 3 years and we're now starting year 3.  There might be a year 3.5 or 4 because you couldn't buy an EV last year and possibly this year so there might be some money left in the pot.

In any event, the current Govt is moving away from grants on private EV's (the €5k) (and maybe taxis) and spending the money on charging stations and "other infrastructure" to reduce people's range anxiety.  I guess they figure people have the money to buy the EV's but range anxiety is holding them back.  Bit like all the bicycle lanes all over the country.  Build it and they will come?

The price of EV's will drop a lot once the Chinese start bringing them over to Europe.   Over on Boards.ie, they're saying some new Tesla's are cheaper than the Honda Civic!
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 05:30:26 pm
That's the dilemma. I've kinda decided I don't want to buy one this year, hoping that the grant will stay around forever like the WAV grant. I'd feel like a proper moron if I bought one in the first year with no grant... In fact, I'd probably buy a diesel or maybe even a hybrid to spite the cunts.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: watty on February 20, 2023, 05:33:12 pm
One of the Unknown knowns that is unknown .How much will Eamo the Onion or Gretta the Wizard charge EV owners for end of life disposal .Will a Scrapped Ev have any real value ?Anybody still playing Flymbo on their Nintendo 64 ?Have EVs got inbuilt obsolescence .Big Dommo cant get an Eight Track Stereo tape player for his 1972 Cortina .Who remembers VCRs .Electronics move faster than The Culligan brothers up a drainpipe .Watty what is your expectation for the amount of years service from your Ev ?Do you expect to get the full 9 or is it 3 and change it ?
The battery will be hugely valuable.  Even now, manufacturers are confident the battery will outlive the physical car itself. 

They can be recycled back into other cars if needed.  Even now, the price of a replacement battery has dropped to circa stg£4k for a secondhand battery for the MG5.  That's within spitting distance of a replacement ICE engine?

They could also be repurposed as energy storage batteries for buildings and other infrastructure.  For example, you could have a pile of batteries in the basement of an office block getting powered by solar panels and they would charge the lights and the elavators for the office block.  Stuff like that.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 20, 2023, 05:42:22 pm
I watched a video about Tesla basically saying MusK is more profitable than the other manufacturers by a huge margin.I think there will be a proper price war once the Chinese EVs land in Europe.BYD motors are being brought in by MSL very soon.

Musk could have more price cuts up his sleeve and still make a decent profit.This environment where car makers can just add 10 or 15% to the price and expect people to keep queuing up isn't gonna last long.It won't be too long before we have a sub 30k leccy vehicle suitable for taxi use IMO.

Here's the vid for anyone interested.
 https://youtu.be/G4ZcxeRq2Io
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2023, 05:43:15 pm
£4k for a good battery is certainly doable, not that you'd want to do it... but if the rest of the car is sound and it's still licensable for 2/3+ years it'd probably make sense.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: watty on February 20, 2023, 06:00:56 pm
That's the dilemma. I've kinda decided I don't want to buy one this year, hoping that the grant will stay around forever like the WAV grant. I'd feel like a proper moron if I bought one in the first year with no grant... In fact, I'd probably buy a diesel or maybe even a hybrid to spite the cunts.
In year one, the grant scheme was open for months while the second year was oversubscribed within weeks.  I guess year 3 will be the same.  So even if you're only thinking about it, get the grant letter and put it in your back pocket.  Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it!

I'd also think about the mileage you do.  An EV works for me because I work the city in a pretty small defined area.  I do ~150km/day and the battery is good for over 300km.  So even with battery degradation over time, I have that safety margin.  And even if the battery lost 10% capacity to 270km+, I'd still have a safety margin.  Some of your posts have you doing mad distances in one night so I'd maybe work out the potential distances you might cover and see if your EV battery would cover that comfortably.  (Forget about the hypothetical once-in-a-lifetime runs to Belfast.)  What nightly distances would you do 95% of the time & would your battery cover that?

https://ev-database.org/ is the 'bible' for unbiased, accurate info on EV's...
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 21, 2023, 11:18:24 am
Range wouldn't be an issue for me, Watty.... provided I fully charged every day or two. I fill the diesel every 5-7 days - I started doing it when it gets below 3/8ths of a tank rather than empty because I learnt that it requires 1/4 tank to activate DPF regeneration. The cars full range is c.700 kilos so I'm alrady working to a range between 438 and 525 kilos with no issues. Generally, I'd be well below 200/kilos per shift as I rarely work more than 5 hours. However, I'm thinking of doing a 7-8 hour shift once a week of a Saturday or Sunday going forward to increase efficiency but we'll see! I guess combined with one or two decent jobs that could stretch it a bit... but I wouldn't think it'd be very often and it'd probably only need a 30 min plugin to remedy. I don't record shift kilometreage but my highest takings so far this year was €490 inc. €30 bonus on a 9.5 hour shift so was probably under 500 kilos.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 21, 2023, 12:54:20 pm
Don't rule out more extensions RC.A relative if mine got his 141 extended until 2027.The NTA have been kicking the can down the road for a long time on the ten year rule.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 21, 2023, 01:09:32 pm
Cunts shoulda given us all a 2 year extension for COVID '19 anall. We were all on the scratcher. I guess I'm probably lucky in that I opted for a newer car with higher kilometeage when I was last forced to change.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 21, 2023, 01:49:54 pm
There's always another crisis coming down the road so no doubt there will be more reasons to extend licences further for those that may need them.The ten year rule still hasn't been tested yet.

Done the engine oil and gearbox fluid this morning on Black beauty.First time I serviced it was nearly ten years ago.I think the car is holding up better than me as I'm absolutely knackered.Dunno if I wanna be doing that stuff another ten years from now.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: watty on February 21, 2023, 05:46:20 pm
I could see the NTA putting their foot down and stopping all this generosity!  Free tests of all descriptions, €15million on EV grants and god knows what on WATs.  There's only so much free money they can give out before they'll want some return on their investment.

It's not just the cars that are getting old - so are we.  Might be easier for the NTA to open the saloon licences again and get new fresh blood and sub-5yr-old cars into the fleet?

(https://i.ibb.co/fSf3s8B/taxi-driver-age-profile.jpg)
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 21, 2023, 06:10:39 pm
I dunno Watty... todays taxi driver is paying through nose now compared to the lad from twenty years ago who had no real PSV exam to get through and able to plate up any age and type vehicle he wanted..There are lads on here paying more tax and commission per year than any taxi drivers in the history of Irish taxi driving.It's not as much fun with all this card and app work.Waiting for yer wages like an employee every week but with no holiday or sick pay.

After expenses you could probably make just as much doing something else while the economy is relatively strong.I only do it because I can turn up when I feel like it and it's not very hard.

Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: watty on February 21, 2023, 06:21:38 pm
I dunno either - I too have my positive and negative days about the taxi biz & the future.  Just thinking about it from the NTA's perspective.  They push bus and taxi driving as rewarding careers and maybe they even believe it  lol
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 21, 2023, 06:36:54 pm
I believe the NTA fukked up badly with the mandatory acceptance of card payments.As soon as the current batch of older taxis leave the fleet many of the pensioner owners who need to upgrade will be thinking of leaving he industry too.

If you joined the industry after deregulation you've gone from all cash to mostly cash and now it's mostly card payments.Huge tax bills with the pension makes the job much less attractive.

Hopefully they'll fix the buses and trains and trams so we don't get blamed anymore.
Title: Re: New Toyota Corolla assessment
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 22, 2023, 11:30:51 am
NTA and the department seem to fuck up everything they touch, MfH. Putting virtually free cars under the arses of pensioners is only going to make them work less, particularly during periods of high demand at night.... while the youngsters / first generation migrants who might work at night face ever-increasing costs of entry. Note, I say "seem to".... we have a habit of thinking we're clevererer than everyone else... maybe there's method in their madness.