Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Cool Boola on January 16, 2023, 12:06:04 pm
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Tesla has dramatically cut its prices in the Irish market, part of a global move to cut the cost of its cars.
Tesla are cutting new car prices in Ireland……….. yay
The price cuts are enough, Tesla said, to ensure that standard and long-range versions of the hugely popular Model 3 saloon and Model Y SUV “now qualify for the SEAI plug-in grant worth up to an additional €5,000.”
Inclusive of the SEAI grant, prices for a standard Model 3, with a range of 491km, start from €44,990 while the long-range four-wheel drive Model 3, with a range of 602km, now has a starting price of €52,990. The very rapid Model 3 Performance (0-100km/h in as little as 3.3 seconds) starts from €59,990.
For the Model Y, the price of the base version with a single motor and a 455km range now starts at €46,990. The long-range four-wheel drive Model Y, which can cover as much as 533km on a single charge, now costs €53,890 while the high-performance Model Y starts at €63,990.
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Tesla has dramatically cut its prices in the Irish market, part of a global move to cut the cost of its cars.
Tesla are cutting new car prices in Ireland……….. yay
The price cuts are enough, Tesla said, to ensure that standard and long-range versions of the hugely popular Model 3 saloon and Model Y SUV “now qualify for the SEAI plug-in grant worth up to an additional €5,000.”
Inclusive of the SEAI grant, prices for a standard Model 3, with a range of 491km, start from €44,990 while the long-range four-wheel drive Model 3, with a range of 602km, now has a starting price of €52,990. The very rapid Model 3 Performance (0-100km/h in as little as 3.3 seconds) starts from €59,990.
For the Model Y, the price of the base version with a single motor and a 455km range now starts at €46,990. The long-range four-wheel drive Model Y, which can cover as much as 533km on a single charge, now costs €53,890 while the high-performance Model Y starts at €63,990.
Batteries not included?
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There's some sort of mass hysteria going on over on the EV forum on Boards.ie. Several regulars are selling the 1/2/3 year EV's 'cheaply' just so they can get one of these Teslas! They fully accept the value of their current EV has dropped €5-10k in value in the last week because of Tesla's announcement but they're still going for it...
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I've been reading the boards threads too.Owning a Tesla out of warranty is a dangerous place to be in IMO.They'll keep updating them if it's cheap to do so.If you have a good job getting more finance isn't really an issue.
There seems to be a belief that the SEAI grant will be chopped.Personaly I think Musk is a wobbly wheel and he may lower prices again just to get the sales numbers up to boost the Tesla share price.I dunno if it's true but I read that the Tesla share price is an important part of the Twitter deal.If it drops too low the banks can call in the Twitter debt.Musk has improved his production lines and can spit lots of Teslas out to complete with cheaper brands now.
I'm seriously tempted to get one as I believe it's will still be worth at least 20k in three years.But then common sense takes over....
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I taut tesla wer the most unreliable car yu can get ?
It be alrite if yu plenty of money an change yur car every yer an want to show off to the neighbours but buying for a taxi for 10 yers sounds like a big mistake
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They're getting better Octy but out of warranty you'd be just gambling.
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I saw one of the new Kia Niro EV's today,not a bad lookin yoke.
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By Craig Cole, Senior Editor, EV Pulse
There are rules for everything. Pay your taxes… wear pants… don’t drive on the sidewalk … and if you own an electric vehicle, you need to be aware of the “80% rule.” Why is 80% an important number if you own an electric car, crossover, or pick-up?
There are two reasons: charging performance and battery longevity. Most of the time you should only charge an EV to 80% because charging rates slow down dramatically past the 80% mark. And two, the long-term health of your vehicle’s battery pack is improved when kept below 100%.
What does all this mean?
Concerning charging rates, a good example is the Hyundai Ioniq 5 with the optional, long-range battery. This hatchback-like crossover can DC fast charge from 10 to 80% in an incredibly quick 18 minutes. But it needs an additional 32 minutes to go from 80 to 100% – almost twice as long as it took to go from 10 to 80.
Why? Charging is not linear. Instead of batteries taking in energy at a constant, predictable rate, the rate actually changes based on a myriad of variables, though most importantly, the battery’s state of charge. Simply put, the fuller the battery is, the slower it absorbs energy. Imagine if a conventional car’s gas tank took longer and longer to fill up the closer it got to being full. It’s kind of crazy.
The best analogy I’ve heard for why charging slows down is that batteries are like theater seating. When you’re one of the first people to enter, it’s quick and easy to find a chair – you can sit anywhere – but as the theater fills up, it takes a lot longer to snag a spot and sit down. In the Li-MAX Cineplex above, the electrons are climbing over each other and spilling popcorn everywhere!
It’s important to know about the “80 % rule” if you’re on a long-distance drive in an EV. When it’s time to charge, it’s often smarter to stop at 80% and then get back on the road, instead of waiting for the battery to completely fill up. Doing so maximizes your use of time.
For example, if your EV has 300 miles of range when fully juiced up, that means it can go about 240 miles with an 80% state of charge. (Obviously, you’re going to stop and power up before hitting zero miles, but let’s keep things simple and say 240.) If the 0-to-80% recharge time is 40 minutes, you can hit the road in little more than half an hour. If you want to fully replenish the battery, it could realistically take an additional 90 minutes to go from 80 to 100%. In the time it took you to gain that extra range, you could be a hundred miles or more down the road and in the vicinity of another charger. That’s why stopping at 80% usually makes the most sense (though that is something YOU have to determine).
There are, of course, instances where you’ll want to wait longer to hit 100%. Maybe there are huge distances between DC fast chargers, and you need every bit of range you can get. It could be the dead of winter and you have range anxiety about making it to your destination. Or you’re towing a car or boat, and the extra weight means you need the additional kilowatt-hours to get you to the next charging station.
The other reason to avoid going all the way to 100 is because it can help preserve battery life. Whether it’s a phone, cordless drill, or your car, batteries simply don’t like to be full. Keeping them topped to the brim means, over time, the maximum kilowatt-hours they can hold shrinks faster than it would otherwise. Always concerned about warranty costs, automakers even suggest limiting how much you charge. Car companies make this easy to do with an infotainment system that allows you to set your preferred charge level – even when you’re not at home.
It’s important to note that you can charge your EV to 100%, but it’s just that for optimal battery life over the long haul, charging to a lower percentage is a good idea. It’s like changing engine oil in an old-school vehicle. You can follow the manufacturer’s recommendation, but doing it more frequently is never a bad idea, especially if you plan on keeping your car or truck for years and years.
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Those Tesla model 3 yokes now have CATL batteries that can be charged to 100% without issue.Tine will tell.
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I think that if you intend to be in the Taxi business for a long time,it would a good investment to make.Time will tell as Merc says!
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A guy down the road from me Orchard -- bought one 6 months ago…Loves it so much that he is working longer hours?
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He might be working longer hours because his car loan is bigger?
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I'd say it's a nice thing to drive.Fairly quiet and brand new suspension and Bluetooth..Living the dream yer man is.Still at least €9500 cheaper than a new Corolla estate after grants.Keep it for a few years and trade up again for another warranty.
At least you'll be able to watch Netflix and YouTube on the big screen while doing nothing.
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A man who knows a man said .The Grants for EV purchases are set to be cut or done away with with only a scrappage allowance as the EU have a problem with the USA paying EV grants for USA made cars only as it is anti comparative .The man who knows a man says the grant money will be diverted into on street chargers .
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The sooner they cut the grants the better.Prices are being pushed up by the free money.
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Eamo has no more Money in his budget so just diverting the car grants into subsidizing chargers and wages for his bikeriding sherriff to protect him as he peddles his Green agenda around town .
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A guy down the road from me Orchard -- bought one 6 months ago…Loves it so much that he is working longer hours?
lol.......wait till he's living in it!!
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The man who knows a man says Eammo the Onion is looking at changing the policy .He says that the uptake of EVs is being impaired by the lack of charging points and the 5K grant does not play any real role in increasing the amount of EVs on the road .Eamo wants to redirect the grant money to Recharging supply and not car purchase .With Tesla reducing the price of their EVs Eamo recons others will have to reduce their costs and with Petrol and Diesel prices going up and Electricity due to come down as we build more Windmills .The cost of running an EV will drive sales without the Grants .if you get the full 20K grant for a new taxi ,it might be the last occasion such generous grants are available ,if you are interested in an EV give it serious consideration .According to the man who knows a man lack of charging is the big issue now when it comes to driving EV sales so Eamo wants to invest his budget in chargers not cars as he has no extra cash from the exchequer .
There is another issue .The USA are paying anty Inflation grants to AMERICAN made EVs .This is anti comparative as it benefits US made cars and victimizes other nations who sell into the USA .So EU countries paying EV grants could look like EU support for European made cars as most EVs sold in Europe are made in Europe we buy very few US made Evs .
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It's all a bit of a farce. They should have been doing this 5 years ago. Unless you own your own house with a driveway, you're reliant on external chargers.
There's currently 70k EV's in Ireland with another 25k planned for next year. And they want a million in 7 years. There's currently 1,500 external chargers in the entire country. Experts say there should be 4,500 right now.
Do the math as they say oops
The local authorities, ESB Networks and public liability insurance will be huge roadblocks...
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EV buyer grants to be cut in July in shift to prioritising infrastructure, Eamon Ryan says
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/01/20/ev-buyer-grants-to-be-cut-in-july-in-shift-to-prioritising-infrastructure-eamon-ryan-says/ (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/01/20/ev-buyer-grants-to-be-cut-in-july-in-shift-to-prioritising-infrastructure-eamon-ryan-says/)
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The myth around low running costs of EVs will be shattered if any of the main components fail.Fuel at the pump is relatively cheap and leccy prices are still too high.Even at home.
Anyone going on about maintence costs being lower on EVs are all driving newish cars.Most people in normal new vehicles only need an oil change a year.Hardly gonna be huge savings there.
By the way John the Irish Teslas aren't bult in USA anymore.All from China and Germany factories.
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A man who knows a man said .The Grants for EV purchases are set to be cut or done away with with only a scrappage allowance as the EU have a problem with the USA paying EV grants for USA made cars only as it is anti comparative .The man who knows a man says the grant money will be diverted into on street chargers .
Proper order. Them poxy greens can shove their millions of euros up the poxy saddles.
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Big Dommo use to be a Lock Hard Man and help people find parking around Cinemas and theatres back in the day .He was saying he might become a plug hard man .His idea is if you park your battery motor in Fairyhouse of Leopardstown he will plug it in for you and park it back in a non charging bay fully charged .Ideal job for homeless or casual junkies to graft .He could probably get a grant for it .
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Big Dommo use to be a Lock Hard Man and help people find parking around Cinemas and theatres back in the day .He was saying he might become a plug hard man .His idea is if you park your battery motor in Fairyhouse of Leopardstown he will plug it in for you and park it back in a non charging bay fully charged .Ideal job for homeless or casual junkies to graft .He could probably get a grant for it .
That's a pretty good idea! I could see myself paying for that if I ever socialising an hour or two outside of Dublin.
But... most of these places have a few slow chargers and it's on a first come, first served basis so he'd maybe have to buy a mobile battery van/gadget and do the charging himself. Could set himself up in multi-storey carparks during the week, beside those carwash places that'll wash your car while you're away shopping.
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Big Dommo use to be a Lock Hard Man and help people find parking around Cinemas and theatres back in the day .He was saying he might become a plug hard man .His idea is if you park your battery motor in Fairyhouse of Leopardstown he will plug it in for you and park it back in a non charging bay fully charged .Ideal job for homeless or casual junkies to graft .He could probably get a grant for it .
I was thinking of installing an EV charger in my three-car garden. I'm right beside Beaumont hospital, plenty of Doctors could drive from Blackrock to Kilmore, plug in my gaff and use their E-scooter to travel the one kilometre to the hospital!
I would be the envy of all my Coolockian neighbours with a Jaguar I-pace, a Ranger Rover, and a Mercedes EQE in the garden. 8)
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Big Dommo use to be a Lock Hard Man and help people find parking around Cinemas and theatres back in the day .He was saying he might become a plug hard man .His idea is if you park your battery motor in Fairyhouse of Leopardstown he will plug it in for you and park it back in a non charging bay fully charged .Ideal job for homeless or casual junkies to graft .He could probably get a grant for it .
https://www.rte.ie/archives/2016/0108/758711-the-lock-hard-men/ (https://www.rte.ie/archives/2016/0108/758711-the-lock-hard-men/)
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... and a pile of ash where the gaff used to be on account of all them amps flowing through a 10sq mains cable.
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Eamon Ruin will have to look in to this. Might text him later, to see if he is awake? ::fds
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https://www.rte.ie/archives/2016/0108/758711-the-lock-hard-men/ (https://www.rte.ie/archives/2016/0108/758711-the-lock-hard-men/)
OMG ! Is that our Octy @ 0.35 in the video ?
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... and a pile of ash where the gaff used to be on account of all them amps flowing through a 10sq mains cable.
Staying on topic, most houses around Dublin have at least two cars, and three to four with young Irish adults not willing to leave the nest. Where will all the charging points and power come from?
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If they can afford more than 2 EV's at €40k/car, they'd get the butler to charge them? ;D If they can't afford a butler, they'd take turns. Most EV's will easily do over 250km on a charge and the average commute is apparently 20km or less. So the average person might only charge once a week?
You might also get a top-up at so-called 'destination chargers'. So if you're gonna be more than an hour at, say, Tesco, Blanch S.C., the cinema or theatre, you might top-up your EV while you're inside the venue. Or you might be able to charge at the office.
The problem, according to some radio expert this morning, is that only half the houses in Dublin are owner-occupied with a driveway. So the other half are screwed! The trend at the moment in 2 car households is to have one of each - the EV for the city & the ICE for longer trips.
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If they can afford more than 2 EV's at €40k/car, they'd get the butler to charge them? ;D If they can't afford a butler, they'd take turns. Most EV's will easily do over 250km on a charge and the average commute is apparently 20km or less. So the average person might only charge once a week?
You might also get a top-up at so-called 'destination chargers'. So if you're gonna be more than an hour at, say, Tesco, Blanch S.C., the cinema or theatre, you might top-up your EV while you're inside the venue. Or you might be able to charge at the office.
The problem, according to some radio expert this morning, is that only half the houses in Dublin are owner-occupied with a driveway. So the other half are screwed! The trend at the moment in 2 car households is to have one of each - the EV for the city & the ICE for longer trips.
But RC said the house is going to burn down?
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electric cars not new idea
1980
https://www.rte.ie/archives/2017/0828/900585-electric-car-at-energex/ (https://www.rte.ie/archives/2017/0828/900585-electric-car-at-energex/)
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electric cars not new idea
1980
[url]https://www.rte.ie/archives/2017/0828/900585-electric-car-at-energex/[/url] ([url]https://www.rte.ie/archives/2017/0828/900585-electric-car-at-energex/[/url])
Electric milk float1960s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m4VWrfPNxM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m4VWrfPNxM)
Gen Z telling us about recycling, the fucking wankers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPMkyY4CXJE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPMkyY4CXJE)
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JM&OB from Jones Road:
(https://i.postimg.cc/svnyrF29/Bread.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svnyrF29)