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Title: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: John m on June 04, 2023, 12:01:50 pm
Sum up machine back to charging VAT .Follow the instruction of tapping on the icon top right go to tax then tap 0 vat save ,then it goes back to 23% VAT next fare .

How to solve it permanently .When you go into tax it will show 9,13,23% .If you tap on 23% you should see a red X if you hit the backspace on the keypad you can eliminate this permantly .Then repeat it for the other two tax rates until the screen reads 000000 for all tax rates .
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: MK on June 04, 2023, 05:45:21 pm
I did that it worked for me


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Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 07, 2023, 01:14:10 pm
When I pressed the red X the line disappeared so I don't have any tax rates reading 000000 with the relevant section just reading "No VAT"... seems to work anyway... prior to that I had to select the VAT rate for every job... although I did consider just telling the clients there's 23% VAT on card jobs which they could avoid by paying cash!
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: Shallow Hal on June 09, 2023, 07:07:44 pm
Even though mine shows the 23% VAT,I check to make sure on the amount I input is being charged.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: John m on June 10, 2023, 08:36:36 am
Even though mine shows the 23% VAT,I check to make sure on the amount I input is being charged.

What you need to check is that it is not adding ON the VAT to the fare you input .Dont think revenue would be pleased if they found you charging TAX illegally .Since they added the VAT feature there is a small lozenge on screen that displays the actual amount to be paid by the customer .
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: Shallow Hal on June 11, 2023, 11:14:21 am
Even though mine shows the 23% VAT,I check to make sure on the amount I input is being charged.

What you need to check is that it is not adding ON the VAT to the fare you input .Dont think revenue would be pleased if they found you charging TAX illegally .Since they added the VAT feature there is a small lozenge on screen that displays the actual amount to be paid by the customer .
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It's not adding it on John....but I do see that it calculates the  VAT that brings it to the amount that's inputted.....I've removed the other three VAT amounts from the app and I'll keep an eye that it doesn't revert back as you say.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: Belker on June 12, 2023, 05:34:02 am
I changed my VAT rate to zero when this subject was mentioned a few weeks ago, it's still holding at zero today.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: Shallow Hal on June 12, 2023, 07:54:06 pm
I was checking my sales on the SumUp app and I noticed one of my transactions as Unsuccessful....I remember the fare,Merrion Rd into Baggot St Upr(€8.60)...but I thought if a fare was Unsuccessful the phone screen lights up to let you know,I know for a fact the transaction was successful as it reverted back to the screen where a receipt can be sent or Skip...anyone know how to raise a dispute in relation to that?...I clicked on the job but doesn't let you report it from there.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 14, 2023, 10:46:48 am
No idea... but I'm guessing the fee will exceed the fare.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: John m on June 14, 2023, 10:52:43 am
I was checking my sales on the SumUp app and I noticed one of my transactions as Unsuccessful....I remember the fare,Merrion Rd into Baggot St Upr(€8.60)...but I thought if a fare was Unsuccessful the phone screen lights up to let you know,I know for a fact the transaction was successful as it reverted back to the screen where a receipt can be sent or Skip...anyone know how to raise a dispute in relation to that?...I clicked on the job but doesn't let you report it from there.

I hold on to the terminal show it to the fare until is shows that it has completed .But like you said it usually trows up a yellow screen transaction failed .
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: Belker on June 14, 2023, 11:06:38 am
I was checking my sales on the SumUp app and I noticed one of my transactions as Unsuccessful....I remember the fare,Merrion Rd into Baggot St Upr(€8.60)...but I thought if a fare was Unsuccessful the phone screen lights up to let you know,I know for a fact the transaction was successful as it reverted back to the screen where a receipt can be sent or Skip...anyone know how to raise a dispute in relation to that?...I clicked on the job but doesn't let you report it from there.
There is an online chat support team in the support section, hope that helps, but I doubt it ??
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: Shallow Hal on June 14, 2023, 03:39:15 pm
I was checking my sales on the SumUp app and I noticed one of my transactions as Unsuccessful....I remember the fare,Merrion Rd into Baggot St Upr(€8.60)...but I thought if a fare was Unsuccessful the phone screen lights up to let you know,I know for a fact the transaction was successful as it reverted back to the screen where a receipt can be sent or Skip...anyone know how to raise a dispute in relation to that?...I clicked on the job but doesn't let you report it from there.

I hold on to the terminal show it to the fare until is shows that it has completed .But like you said it usually trows up a yellow screen transaction failed .

I know for a fact the terminal said approved,even the chime it emits for a successful transaction was audible and it would have....should have had the transaction failed screen on my phone...which it didn't.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: John m on June 14, 2023, 04:14:38 pm
Could somebody of looked for a chargeback forgetting what they spent eight and change on ?Go to chat in app and ask .
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: Shallow Hal on June 14, 2023, 04:57:59 pm
Could somebody of looked for a chargeback forgetting what they spent eight and change on ?Go to chat in app and ask .

Was on to SumUp support,they say the transaction was reversed and authorised shortly afterwards...they never received the funds so can't help me...it was a FreeNow job so I've sent them a message using Help on that particular job....see what their response is considering I paid commission on the job.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: Belker on June 15, 2023, 04:26:18 pm
Could somebody of looked for a chargeback forgetting what they spent eight and change on ?Go to chat in app and ask .

Was on to SumUp support,they say the transaction was reversed and authorised shortly afterwards...they never received the funds so can't help me...it was a FreeNow job so I've sent them a message using Help on that particular job....see what their response is considering I paid commission on the job.
That was a proper scumy thing fer the customer to do, unless it was a stolen card.

Most likely FN will advise you to go to the Gardai and if they can assist the Gardai then they will and in the meantime your commission on the fare will be refunded, in an automated email.

Thankfully it's only 8 'n change, I'll defo be more reluctant to take card on a long (over a nifty) job after reading that.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: taxi1990 on July 04, 2023, 10:20:01 am
I set up my new square reader on sunday. did a test payment,1 euro, 98 cent was was lodged into my account today. looking good, sum up has completely stopped working on me now so wont be using it anymore. it was easier to set up that sum up was, just had to take a picture of my drivers licence and a selfie, no sending in pictures of my spsv licence like with sum up.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: watty on July 04, 2023, 11:03:21 am
I've been using Square for a few months now & it's very reliable.  Sumup was quite erratic but I've kept it in the glove box just in case.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: taxi1990 on July 04, 2023, 11:10:13 am
I've been using Square for a few months now & it's very reliable.  Sumup was quite erratic but I've kept it in the glove box just in case.


thanks for the recommendation.   :2cheers 
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: silverbullet on July 04, 2023, 04:15:10 pm
I set up my new square reader on sunday. did a test payment,1 euro, 98 cent was was lodged into my account today. looking good, sum up has completely stopped working on me now so wont be using it anymore. it was easier to set up that sum up was, just had to take a picture of my drivers licence and a selfie, no sending in pictures of my spsv licence like with sum up.
Is this it?
https://squareup.com/shop/hardware/ie/en/products/credit-card-apple-pay-reader-contactless-ie
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: MK on July 04, 2023, 04:43:09 pm
If the device is acting up, In the sum up app you can get a QR code or create a payment link which the customer can pay you. Its very quick like revolut.


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Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: watty on July 04, 2023, 04:50:04 pm
Is this it?
https://squareup.com/shop/hardware/ie/en/products/credit-card-apple-pay-reader-contactless-ie (https://squareup.com/shop/hardware/ie/en/products/credit-card-apple-pay-reader-contactless-ie)

Yeah.  The Square Reader (https://squareup.com/ie/en/hardware/reader).
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: silverbullet on July 04, 2023, 06:54:30 pm
Is this it?
https://squareup.com/shop/hardware/ie/en/products/credit-card-apple-pay-reader-contactless-ie (https://squareup.com/shop/hardware/ie/en/products/credit-card-apple-pay-reader-contactless-ie)

Yeah.  The Square Reader (https://squareup.com/ie/en/hardware/reader).
Is there a screen, or is the screen on your phone?
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: watty on July 04, 2023, 07:15:30 pm
There's no screen on the reader.  You type in the number on your phone and the passenger has to trust you  O:-)  My phone is in a cradle on the window so I guess they could look over my shoulder as I'm typing in the number?

Only 1 person in about 4 months has made any comment at all about the lack of screen but then, I've an honest face  :P
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: silverbullet on July 04, 2023, 08:04:39 pm
There's no screen on the reader.  You type in the number on your phone and the passenger has to trust you  O:-)  My phone is in a cradle on the window so I guess they could look over my shoulder as I'm typing in the number?

Only 1 person in about 4 months has made any comment at all about the lack of screen but then, I've an honest face  :P
Another cabbie told me about this:
https://www.mypos.com/en-ie/buy-card-machine?utm_campaign=Ireland_PMax&utm_content=myPOS_Terminals&gclid=Cj0KCQjwho-lBhC_ARIsAMpgMocdbHlU-Y8fA2BfowY1G_95TRJELsHiaF-hQQdEKx-PHe6f3Pknv8AaAhRFEALw_wcB (https://www.mypos.com/en-ie/buy-card-machine?utm_campaign=Ireland_PMax&utm_content=myPOS_Terminals&gclid=Cj0KCQjwho-lBhC_ARIsAMpgMocdbHlU-Y8fA2BfowY1G_95TRJELsHiaF-hQQdEKx-PHe6f3Pknv8AaAhRFEALw_wcB)
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: watty on July 04, 2023, 08:45:19 pm
Looks nice  ::clap  Check the small print though so there's no surprises.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: taxi1990 on July 04, 2023, 09:20:10 pm
I set up my new square reader on sunday. did a test payment,1 euro, 98 cent was was lodged into my account today. looking good, sum up has completely stopped working on me now so wont be using it anymore. it was easier to set up that sum up was, just had to take a picture of my drivers licence and a selfie, no sending in pictures of my spsv licence like with sum up.
Is this it?
https://squareup.com/shop/hardware/ie/en/products/credit-card-apple-pay-reader-contactless-ie (https://squareup.com/shop/hardware/ie/en/products/credit-card-apple-pay-reader-contactless-ie)


https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BW1BM6DC?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BW1BM6DC?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details)

Thats where I got it.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: taxi1990 on July 04, 2023, 09:21:49 pm
If the device is acting up, In the sum up app you can get a QR code or create a payment link which the customer can pay you. Its very quick like revolut.


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I will probably never use sum up again, it let me down a few times so they wont get another chance.
Title: Re: Sum up acting up again again
Post by: Horse on July 04, 2023, 10:08:16 pm
Jasus some drivers never stop banging on about sum up. And all because it saves them 4 pence a year or something.  I use cabapp.  Never had a problem.