Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Belker on April 23, 2024, 11:54:24 am
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I got an email from the NTA on 22nd Jan 2024 to remind me to start my taxi renewal process due on 12th May 2024 and informed me to start immediately as late entrants might not be entertained.
So I rang the NTA to pay me €250 fee and was told by the receptionist that I was too early to start the process ?? and not to send in my documents fer another 2 months as they may get lost by the Gardai ??
However she did agree to take the €250 fee and issued me a printed receipt in the post.
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I read and saved Rat Catchers post from last year about renewing;
"When renewing your PSV driving licence, I advise to bring with you, as well as the mandatory items, the "items which may be requested" i.e. passport, and NDLS diving history, because they will be requested.
Driving Licence History statement issued by the National Driving Licence Section (NDLS). You can request same by contacting info@ndls.ie or 076 108 7880
NDLS driving history is available by email from NDLS in approximately 10 days.If your driving licence history has penalty points you will be required to get a letter from your insurance company, on their headed paper, stating that they are aware of the points, and to get this letter you have to email them your NDLS driving history, and they will email you the required letter by return."
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Are you sure I posted that, Ken? Reading it now I don't remember a bit of it!
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I applied to the NDLS in January fer my driving license history statement and put it all to bed till Paddys day leaving myself with almost 2 full months to complete the process.
I returned to my task after Paddys day with still no sign of my NDLS driver statement so I applied again this time getting an auto response email to say it may take 10 working days. 10 working days passed and still no sign, so I rang them only to be told that no such query had been recieved, I explaind that I had an auto response and the receptionist had no answer but to say she would put it through again and mark it PRIORITY and I should have it in 5 working days.
5 working days passed and still no sign, and now the clock is starting to count down to 12th May renewal date, rang them again this time using my driver license number rather than my PPS number and eventually I got it the next day on Thurs 18th April.
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Are you sure I posted that, Ken? Reading it now I don't remember a bit of it!
Yes, defo it was you Stephen, you also added this bit at the end which I did not include above as it was unessacary;
"I was in there this morning, and contrary to an NTA Google search the Carriage Office is not open 9-17, but from 9.30-12.45, and 14.00-16.30. Luckily I had my passport on my phone, and was able to email it to her there and then. I had my printed NDLS history with me, as well as on my phone, and I then emailed my NDLS history to my insurance who will email the required awareness letter, which Louise in the Carriage Office said is acceptable to be sent to her by post."
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If that was me I was lying, Ken. I've never been asked for my unblemished driving record by the Carriage Office or NTA.
Anywaysanall, will it still be in date when you submit all the paperwork to the Cork Carriage Office?
It's all a load of nonsense if you're white and Irish by accident of birth, anyway. I know several such drivers who have submitted paperwork to the Dublin Carriage Office clearly proving their incompetence. One such driver had 9, (YES 9) penalty points and was still issued with a brand new SPSV DL. It's a great little country... ifn you're white and Irish by accident of birth!
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Friday 19th April I'm suited and booted and heading fer Angelsea street garda station PSV office with all me documents/emails and photos in hand, only to be told; "Sorry the PSV office has been moved out to Ballincollig garda station" (a satelitte town 10km outside Cork).
I rang Ballincollig garda station, no answer, checked their opening times on the net;
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Unbelievably they are only open fer 3 hours a day from Sun to Thurs.
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If that was me I was lying, Ken. I've never been asked for my unblemished driving record by the Carriage Office or NTA.
Anywaysanall, will it still be in date when you submit all the paperwork to the Cork Carriage Office?
It's all a load of nonsense if you're white and Irish by accident of birth, anyway. I know several such drivers who have submitted paperwork to the Dublin Carriage Office clearly proving their incompetence. One such driver had 9, (YES 9) penalty points and was still issued with a brand new SPSV DL. It's a great little country... ifn you're white and Irish by accident of birth!
Actually your right, it was Bob Shillin that posted it last year, Apologies. oops
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No worries, Ken... I knew my memory wasn't that bad... yet!
There's a link to "suggest new hours" if you're unhappy with those already listed.
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Not be outdone I was at Ballincollig garda station at supposed 2pm opening time last Sunday and waited outside fer half an hour as it was closed and I left at 2.30pm as it did not open ??
There was a half torn A4 sheet of paper stuck to the garda station door saying for PSV queries contact corkcity.psv@garda.ie
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Rang them again this morning after supposed 10am opening time and the call was transferred to district headquarters in Togher where I was told the only way to contact the PSV office was by email which I did.
So now I'm less than 3 weeks shy of renewal date (13 working days) and my application has not even gone in yet !
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Are you sure driving licence history is necessary for renewals?
I'm doing me own soon and rang that number above and it says 076 numbers are no longer in service.
I thought the driving history was only for new applications as I didn't have to do it 5 years ago.
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I might add that during all this process which I started last January I got no notification of any type from the NTA about driving license history now being required or a change to the address of the Cork PSV garda office.
I have done my level best to stay within the rules as laid out by the NTA but still it's looking unlikely that I will get my Taxi license renewal sorted by 12th May.
::fds
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Are you sure driving licence history is necessary for renewals?
I'm doing me own soon and rang that number above and it says 076 numbers are no longer in service.
I thought the driving history was only for new applications as I didn't have to do it 5 years ago.
Yes I think they are now MFH, I had a lad in the car over Chrimbo who worked in the NDLS office and he confirmed what Bob Schillin stated above in reply no 2.
I'll be doing mine hopefully in the next few days so will let you know fer sure then.
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I did my renewal last year,the lovely Elaine in Drogheda Carriage Office didn't ask for any NDLS driving history or passport...had the Garda paper licence in a couple of weeks,can't remember if the NTA's dash ID arrived in a timely manner!!
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I read and saved Rat Catchers post from last year about renewing;
"When renewing your PSV driving licence, I advise to bring with you, as well as the mandatory items, the "items which may be requested" i.e. passport, and NDLS diving history, because they will be requested.
Driving Licence History statement issued by the National Driving Licence Section (NDLS). You can request same by contacting info@ndls.ie or 076 108 7880
NDLS driving history is available by email from NDLS in approximately 10 days.If your driving licence history has penalty points you will be required to get a letter from your insurance company, on their headed paper, stating that they are aware of the points, and to get this letter you have to email them your NDLS driving history, and they will email you the required letter by return."
yes, 'twas I, and I did have to get that letter from the insurance company.
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AFAIK, only certain Garda Carriage Offices actually ask for the Driving Licence history. Dublin is one for sure because I got asked for it 2 or 3 yrs ago.
The problem is the NTA reminder letter. The last line in the requirements says something like 'and any other misc documents as requested.' So you don't find out until you submit your application whether you need the history printout or not.
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I might add that during all this process which I started last January I got no notification of any type from the NTA about driving license history now being required or a change to the address of the Cork PSV garda office.
I have done my level best to stay within the rules as laid out by the NTA but still it's looking unlikely that I will get my Taxi license renewal sorted by 12th May.
::fds
I know you got messed around a bit, but it`s advisable to apply 6 to 8 weeks prior to expiry date. And make sure you get Garda to stamp the back of your soon to expire paper psv.
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NDLS number Dublin 0818700800
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Are you sure I posted that, Ken? Reading it now I don't remember a bit of it!
Migrant?
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Had a look at my own renewal reminder that I received a few weeks ago and nothing about driving licence history.I'll be dropping into the carriage office this week so will let yous know if there's been a change.
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........ And make sure you get Garda to stamp the back of your soon to expire paper psv.
Why so Bubba ?
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........ And make sure you get Garda to stamp the back of your soon to expire paper psv.
Why so Bubba ?
Proof you left your documents with Carriage Office.
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........ And make sure you get Garda to stamp the back of your soon to expire paper psv.
Why so Bubba ?
Proof you left your documents with Carriage Office.
I got a phone call last Thursday morning at 8.45am to arrange an appointment fer 11am the same day.
I requested the above from the Guard that morning but he seemed reluctant to do so and I didn't persue it.
He stated that I would definately have the paper license before 12th May and as it turned out it arrived in the post the very next day last Friday.
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Now whater FN will accept the paper only Garda license is another matter, last Thursday the Guard promised me that they would but I'm having my doubts that if'n I don't have the new NTA dash ID sent to FN by 12th May they will put me off, which is not a terrible big worry of mine.
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Apologies to all, but I did not glean too much information on the renewal process last Thursday, I just brought everything with me and emailed them my TCC and NDLS driving history. What the Guard actually did or didn't require I dont know, but I think he did require the NDLS and TCC by email, I didn't ask but was just happy when he was satisfied and sent me on my way.
I will say that the whole process (in Cork) was very very different to what it was when I last renewed in 2019. The best bet is to just bring everything with you including NDLS driving history and TCC emailed to them after the appointment date has been scheduled and as Bob Schillin stated if you have PP's bring a letter from your insurer to say they are aware of the points.
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The paper Garda licence IS your sPSV licence. The yellow/purple thing you stick on your dashboard is just something pretty the NTA gives you.
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The paper Garda licence IS your sPSV licence. The yellow/purple thing you stick on your dashboard is just something pretty the NTA gives you.
It`s just an I.D.
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I agree, but I think without the dash ID emailed to them FN will not continue to give out jobs to an expired dash ID.
(which is not a big concern of mine).
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2019 to 2024 licence renewal differences in Cork;
In 2019 you presented yourself at the Cork PSV Garda station in the city center at any time (office hours).
In 2024 (without notification) an application had to made only by email to a new PSV Garda station 10km outside Cork city fer a PSV renewal appointment.
In 2019 all 3 photographs had to be signed on the back.
In 2024 that is no longer required.
In 2019 you did not need any TCC criteria as the Gardai could already see it on their file.
In 2024 your TCC must be emailed (or printed) as seemingly the Gardai cannot see your TCC.
In 2019 you did not fill out the PSV18 renewal form, the Guard at the station asked you the questions in person and filled them out electronically fer you.
In 2024 you are given the PSV18 form to fill out yourself while supervised in the Garda station.
In 2019 NDLS driving history was never mentioned, nor was the requirement fer your insurer to know of your PP history.
In 2024 seemingly both are compulsory in certain counties either in print or by email.
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I just brought (or emailed) everything with me to the renewal appointment, better to just get it all done in One sitting because the rules change and unfortunately they do not notify us of the changes.
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I was asked to provide my driving record by the carriage office.The chap in the office says this has been in place for 3/4 years which would explain why I didn't have to do it the last time.
I've emailed NDLS and they've said they'll send it within ten days.The carriage office also gave me an email address that I can forward it to.
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I did my renewal last year,the lovely Elaine in Drogheda Carriage Office didn't ask for any NDLS driving history or passport...had the Garda paper licence in a couple of weeks,can't remember if the NTA's dash ID arrived in a timely manner!!
I didn't know one could renew a Dublin SPSV DL in Drogheda. Although I didn't know there was a CO in Drogheda. Shame there's no SPSV VL inspection/renewal facility there since they stopped using the Boyne Valley Hotel.
Every day's a school day, I guess.
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I was asked to provide my driving record by the carriage office.The chap in the office says this has been in place for 3/4 years which would explain why I didn't have to do it the last time.
I've emailed NDLS and they've said they'll send it within ten days.The carriage office also gave me an email address that I can forward it to.
Keep your eye on that NDLS crowd, they messed me about big time saying that they never recieved my email request even though I had an auto response email Twice to say I had applied ??
I dunno if it makes a difference but the first 3 times I unsuccessfully applied I had put in my PPS number on the email form and on the 4th successful attempt I put in my driving license number.
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OK thanks Belker I got one auto-reply and another email from a real person.Hopefuly the driving record is on the way.
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.... I've emailed NDLS and they've said they'll send it within ten days.......
Their 10 days is 10 working days which does not include weekends or the upcoming bank holiday Monday, so it will actually be 15 days in your case MFH.
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I thought that I would have to ring the NTA portal thingy to get my nua license on their driver check system, but I just checked it and I'm already entered there as up to 2029. One less job to do .....
Still no sign of the NTA dash ID but I have till the 12th May to recieve it or I'll have to be a legal street hoe fer a while .....
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The NTA dash ID can take months to turn up so that's where your real Garda paper licence comes into play. Stick that in your glovebox to show any NTA inspectors that might get nosey!
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I did my renewal last year,the lovely Elaine in Drogheda Carriage Office didn't ask for any NDLS driving history or passport...had the Garda paper licence in a couple of weeks,can't remember if the NTA's dash ID arrived in a timely manner!!
I didn't know one could renew a Dublin SPSV DL in Drogheda. Although I didn't know there was a CO in Drogheda. Shame there's no SPSV VL inspection/renewal facility there since they stopped using the Boyne Valley Hotel.
Every day's a school day, I guess.
We spoke of it before RC....infact I mentioned the lovely Elaine who works there,another girl also,very helpful altogether,I did renew it in Santry one time and the Garda there told me that I could renew in Drogheda...cos I lived there regardless of my Dublin only area licence.
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Thanks, Hal. I don't remember that at all. My memory isn't what it used to be!
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The NTA dash ID can take months to turn up so that's where your real Garda paper licence comes into play. Stick that in your glovebox to show any NTA inspectors that might get nosey!
The App's seemingly do not accept Garda paper license only even though the Guard that processed my application said that they did ??
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Does the Garda have a sideline providing technical support for one or more dispatch firm(s) or was he just telling you what he figured you wanted to hear to get rid of you?
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Does the Garda have a sideline providing technical support for one or more dispatch firm(s) or was he just telling you what he figured you wanted to hear to get rid of you?
The later it would seem !
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My personal Taxi license expired at 12 Midnight last night (Sunday), still no dash I.D. from NTA, but I do have an email from them to say that I am legal to work as long as I carry my recently issued Garda paper license.
Because of no dash ID Bolt blocked me on Sat night at midnight and FN also but after midnight on Sunday night ??
Uber I don't bother much with.
So thanks to the 3 Gov bodies we have to deal with to renew a license (mainly NDLS) I am now a street hoe only.
Hopefully I get my dash ID by next Wed or Fri when their 10 to 12 working days are up ??
Just to remind folks I started my personal Taxi renewal process at the end of January this year !! ::fds
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It's been like that for years though. For all their sins, the Gardai can knock out a legal document (licence) in a few weeks but it takes the NTA months to issue a bit of plastic. In fairness, the NTA know they're incompetent and do warn you about their tardiness in their renewal notices.
It is a shame that the apps don't recognise the Garda legal licence. You'd think that having x% of drivers regularly 'disappearing' off their apps would prompt them to accept the Garda licence for their apps?
Still, I suppose it's a warning to those who've become too reliant on a third party (the apps) to make their living...
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Hopefully I will actually get my NTA dash ID by this Wed or Fri when their 10-12 working days are up, but I'm not too pushed about it, the 'Boss' plays Cork next Thursday and I can do ok without any app on the weekend nights.
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I eventually got my NTA dash ID cards in the post on Tuesday.
I uploaded it to Bolt (mainly to stop them emailing me 5 times a day) and it was reviewed and accepted within an hour.
Still waiting on FN to review and accept the ID document.
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FN reviewed and accepted the ID within 2 hours on Wed morning.
I'm gonna have to work 'The Boss' concert in Cork tomorrow afternoon now which I had not planned to do ::fds
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Did FN order you to work the concert tomorrow? Cheeky bastards >:(
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Did FN order you to work the concert tomorrow? Cheeky bastards >:(
They did indeed, I have to start working fer them at 4pm tomorrow or face 6 lashes of the 'Cat' lol
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It's amazing what some, like FN, will do for money. Though I suppose it's a win-win. The more money they make, the more money you do too.