Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Theoneandonly on June 10, 2024, 12:30:24 pm
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A leak by an Irish whistleblower revealed the extent to which cab-hailing Uber lobbied governments worldwide to introduce regulations or deregulate favourably to Uber.
Lobbying included senior Irish figures, notably John Moran, who served as secretary general of the Department of Finance for a relatively short period, 2011-2014, before he resigned unexpectedly. During his period as secretary general, Mr Moran developed relationships with influential people such as politicians and senior civil servants. These relationships can be monetised. Shortly after he departed the Department of Finance, Mr Moran founded a consulting company, RHH International, in 2015. That August, Uber hired RHH International/Mr Moran as a lobbyist. Presumably Uber paid handsomely for Mr Moran’s contacts with influential people.
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I think that was reported (here or elsewhere) before.
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Uber are now advertising on buses and inside the airport for taxis in Dublin.For now they're using the fleet they have.
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Free Now advertises everything from Scooters to Rickshaws in Dublin Airport.
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I think that was reported (here or elsewhere) before.
It's the possibility of him being elected mayor that is "news" here.
Do the devolved powers allotted to the DEM allow for the deregulation of taxis in Limerick?
To the extent that UBER will be allowed to operate as they wish .... With the obvious knock on effect that would have in other counties
https://assets.gov.ie/120487/2cabec25-ec0d-4273-b0f6-20f3770fde35.pdf (https://assets.gov.ie/120487/2cabec25-ec0d-4273-b0f6-20f3770fde35.pdf)
New mayoral executive functions, will be developed in a range of areas which have
been proposed for devolution to Limerick city and county council once the DEM is
established, including in relation to:
o Convening stakeholders on issues that impact on Limerick.
o The chairing of the Limerick PI2040 Project Delivery Board.
o The preparation of a transport strategy for Limerick city and county.
o Traffic demand management, public bus transport, and rural mobility.
o Economic development and enterprise.
o Health and policing.
o Education, research, innovation and science.
o Environment, energy and marine.
o Arts, culture and heritage, tourism, sport and recreation.
o The DEM will support and implement the decisions of the elected Council and
Municipal Districts in relation to their reserved function
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The moyor will have no power over taxis or hacks that duty lies with the NTA and taxi thingey .You will be surprised how little real power these Mayors will have Civil Service wont give away their Powers .
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The NTA have said on several occasions that taxi hailing apps will only be allowed operate through the regulated taxi fleet. There will be no two tier system. It's the same all over the EU.
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People are copping on to Ubers tactics.In the US in many of the places they operate they're now more expensive than the taxis they replaced.
In the UK Uber pays holiday pay to all drivers so much of the commission has to be given back.I reckon they make more money from the food delivery these days.
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A leak by an Irish whistleblower revealed the extent to which cab-hailing Uber lobbied governments worldwide to introduce regulations or deregulate favourably to Uber. .....
Nice to see you back again Roy ::cheers
I reckon uber rideshare will get in here eventually but thankfully fer now it is on hold, the mayor you speak of might just be the stepping stone that uber needs to complete the deal but hopefully I'm wrong on that.
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People are copping on to Ubers tactics.In the US in many of the places they operate they're now more expensive than the taxis they replaced.
In the UK Uber pays holiday pay to all drivers so much of the commission has to be given back.I reckon they make more money from the food delivery these days.
That was their plan along - undercut legal taxis and replace them with Ubers. Once the taxis were gone, Uber could charge what they liked.
Uber taxis has always lost money - they used to lose something like $900million every quarter. Nowadays the group just about makes money from the Uber Eats side of things.
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People are copping on to Ubers tactics.In the US in many of the places they operate they're now more expensive than the taxis they replaced.
In the UK Uber pays holiday pay to all drivers so much of the commission has to be given back.I reckon they make more money from the food delivery these days.
That was their plan along - undercut legal taxis and replace them with Ubers. Once the taxis were gone, Uber could charge what they liked.
Uber taxis has always lost money - they used to lose something like $900million every quarter. Nowadays the group just about makes money from the Uber Eats side of things.
How many taxis does the Taxis for Ireland coalition own? I'm only guessing here but I'd think it's near f**king ZERO.
Do you know that Uber whore/Lobbyist John Moran has managed to get himself elected to Lord Mayor of Limerick?
I'd hazard a guess as to where the money came from.
https://www.thephoenix.ie/article/profile-john-moran/ (https://www.thephoenix.ie/article/profile-john-moran/)
THE BRIGHTEST as well as the most self-confident Limerick luminary since Richard Harris has to be the former secretary general of the Department of Finance, John Moran – a close friend and colleague of the finance minister at the time, Michael Noonan. Following his spell at the minister’s side, Moran went on to supplement a glittering cv as the head of various corporate firms and state entities and he is now a front runner for the post of the first directly elected mayor of Limerick. But the word ‘hubris’ could have been invented to describe Moran and his self-image, currently being projected in advance of the election, could inflict more self-harm than good.
Before and after his entry to the civil service – to save Ireland from perdition, as he often explains – Moran’s career reads like a scaled-down, Limerick version of Peter Sutherland’s high-achieving, world-saving life and times. Throughout the 1990s he worked for firms such as McCann Fitzgerald (in its office in New York); Tony Ryan’s GPA on Shannonside; and for a decade he was head of Zurich Financial Services in Dublin as well as globally out of Sydney and New York.
In 2012 he was appointed by his mentor, then finance minister Michael Noonan, as secretary general at the department. There, as he puts it himself, he has since been “recognised, as head of Ireland’s Department of Finance, to have played a pivotal role in Ireland’s post-crisis economic recovery, the restructuring of the Irish banking sector, and to have been a key influencer in Europe’s move towards greater non-bank and capital markets funding sources”.
Well, if you’ve got it, flaunt it, as they say in Limerick.
Another way of describing Moran’s two-year term in the civil service top job is that he and his Limerick buddy, Noonan, opened the vulture funds gateway into Ireland. Subsequent reports of that time were that finance officials met private equity vulture firms 65 times in 2013 and 2014 – Moran was department head for much of this period – with Noonan present at eight of these meetings, which led to tax concessions for the vulture funds.
At the Oireachtas committee of inquiry into the banking crisis in 2015, Moran was grilled by then senator Michael D’Arcy – not the most left wing of Fine Gael TDs – who asked him what he thought of “vulture funds coming in here, flipping assets for twice the money in a short span”.
Moran’s response was unequivocal: “There are lots of people in Ireland who, in the last two or three years, have probably bought a house and sold it at a profit, right? I wouldn’t consider them vulture investors… Our question, and your question, is do you want to have a system that encourages private investment into the system or do you want it all done by the Government?… and it’s not, I don’t think, as I said earlier, helpful to be talking about vulture funds. We are talking about investors without which we wouldn’t have office space, without which we wouldn’t have housing.”
More pointed than D’Arcy even at the committee hearings was TD Joe Higgins, who told Moran: “Statements I’ve heard attributed to you and even today might indicate a belief in a capitalism that is red in tooth and claw.”
More recently, the Irish Times picked up on Moran’s statement last month about his demand for greater transparency in public life. But shortly after Moran left finance in 2014, highly embarrassing documents leaked by a lobbyist for Uber showed how its high-powered campaign to virtually abolish regulation in the taxi industry was assisted by Moran, who worked as a lobbyist for Uber.
The leaks from Uber spoke of how Moran had been hired to lobby government and Fine Gael advisors and how Moran had even managed to get an Uber soundbite – the “sharing economy”– into the party’s 2016 general election manifesto.
EMBARRASSING NOTE
One especially embarrassing note from Uber’s man in Dublin to a colleague said: “Can we make sure we are getting value from our 10k for Moran; have him talk to [Paschal] Donahue [sic] and apply pressure before the officials have the time to poop all over this [a proposal for a Limerick pilot project].”
During this period Moran was Ireland’s director on the European Investment Bank and chair of the Land Development Agency.
Following his altruistic stint as head of the finance department – “to help guide Ireland’s recovery from the great recession… in a pivotal decision that reshaped my life and perspective”, as his mayoral campaigning literature notes – Moran got involved in several Limerick entities, including Shannon Airport, Liveable Limerick and as chair of the Hunt Museum. He has, as the IT noted sarcastically, stepped back from these bodies in order, he said, to give a good example to others about transparency.
Moran’s mayoral election campaigning literature combines Limerick kitsch with the Wolf of Wall Street and he tells prospective voters: “To understand me and what drives me on daily you have to understand my history.” His “love… pride… ambition” and other feelings for Limerick, as well as his childhood experiences there, explain why he “will never tire of advocating and working to improve Limerick; it’s my home”.
There is even a touch of Frank McCourt in his description of how his parents contended with “economic forces beyond their control” and how he worked alongside his dad on building sites and both parents on the family farm – “It’s my backbone, the core of who I am.”
Other personal touches include his pride in having recovered from cancer and on another level he writes: “My pride in Limerick’s success, especially during sports events, is immense, but my most poignant and heartfelt moment was being welcomed at the Limerick Chamber dinner with my partner Damien in ways I had never believed possible when I left years before.”
Moran goes on to outline in much greater detail his phenomenal success in finance and companies at home and abroad as well as in government. He also explained how after his spell as head of the finance department during the austerity years, “I had defined my success taking up that role to be Ireland’s return to the funding markets, the end of the troika programme and a turn-around in rising unemployment”.
Given such phenomenal achievements, seizing the mayoralty of Limerick should be a piece of cake to one of its most distinguished sons, on top of which Moran has also decided to present as a non-party Independent, despite his close association with Noonan.
But so too has Helen O’Donnell, widow of the late FG minister, Tom O’Donnell.
Helen infuriated her FG colleagues last month by seconding MEP Seán Kelly to run again in the European elections before resigning from the party in the following 24 hours to run as an Independent for the Limerick mayoralty.
O’Donnell is derided by some but should not be underestimated. She will secure votes from many FG supporters and also from non-party sources, and she has the backing of Limerick’s Mr Big, JP McManus.
This has left FG in turmoil, with many councillors walking away from the convention for the mayoralty nomination and the party is now reliant on former mayor, councillor Daniel Butler, who will hope to be rewarded somewhere along the line for his party patriotism in the face of almost certain defeat.
Some in Fianna Fáil believe its candidate, Dee Ryan – who is chief executive of Limerick Chamber and a former member of Labour and Fine Gael – will emerge from the centre to centre-right group of candidates that also includes Moran, O’Donnell and Butler.
It is hard to tell if Moran, O’Donnell or Ryan’s campaigns will catch fire but whichever one is ahead on the first count will likely go on to confront Sinn Féin TD Maurice Quinlivan, who will probably come ahead of all the left candidates and then take transfers from them.
It may or may not become an issue but Moran might regret his objection to St Vincent de Paul’s (SVP) plan to develop a community support facility in the Georgian quarter, where he owns several expensive properties. Moran claims that prostitution is rife in the area and queries whether the SVP services are appropriate in a “Georgian neighbourhood community”.
Limerick, you’re a lady.
John Moran’s unlimited success
WHILE JOHN Moran has made clear his political ambitions, his private sector lobbying has been extensive and, on occasion, has overlapped with his significant property interests. Getting a handle on Johnny’s wealth is, however, tricky, as he has availed of the protection of unlimited status, which means companies do not have to file accounts.
One such entity is Red House Hill International Unlimited, the lobbying company that in the past has worked on behalf of the likes of Uber (see p14). It trades as RHH International and Moran holds 100% of the shares here, while the other directors are his partner, Damien Duggan, and Foxrock-based accountant Tom Moran.
RHH has lobbied in John Moran’s old stomping ground in the Department of Finance on behalf of the likes of Japanese bank Nomura, where Moran sought to “secure greater mandates” for his client in “providing investment banking advice to government or government-supported banks”. The company has also lobbied then finance minister Michael Noonan on behalf of the Hunt Museum in Limerick, where Moran was a board member from 2015 to 2022.
The Department of Environment was another target, with secretary general Mark Griffin lobbied on behalf of energy supplier Grange Backup Power, when Moran helpfully highlighted “upcoming shortages on electricity supply in Dublin”.
During the pandemic, then taoiseach Leo Varadkar was also lobbied by Moran on behalf of the SME Recovery Coalition, who had hired RHH to help secure “better and fairer treatment for SMEs suffering from Covid-19 restrictions”.
RHH also provides consultancy services to clients and has been a direct beneficiary of Moran’s time as a director of DirectRoute (Limerick) Ltd, which is the entity that landed the contract to construct and operate the M7 Limerick Southern Ring Road. Moran was appointed to the board here in 2019 and the good news is that, according to DirectRoute’s 2022 accounts, RHH International Unlimited was paid €18,000 in consultancy fees.
Moran has also found time to lobby on his own behalf, notably in relation to property, which is not surprising given that he has show quite a flair for this business. For example, he previously lobbied Limerick City and County Council officials about “developing a civic campaign to encourage a visionary and creative approach to the planned redevelopment of O’Connell Street in Limerick”.
Moran must have been impressed with the potential for the area, as a couple of years later he acquired a Georgian property in the upmarket Crescent neighbourhood, just a couple of minutes walk from O’Connell Street.
More recently, RHH lobbied the council, again on Moran’s own behalf, seeking improvements that would lead to “a better public realm in the Georgian quarter for safety of residents”. By that stage, Moran had acquired a second Georgian pile – on Pery Square, again a stone’s throw from O’Connell Street.
John is quite the operator it seems.
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https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/29/24188851/uber-lyft-driver-minimum-wage-settlement-massachusetts-benefits-healthcare-sick-leave (https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/29/24188851/uber-lyft-driver-minimum-wage-settlement-massachusetts-benefits-healthcare-sick-leave)
Is thers a growing trend in America of treating uber drivers as employees ?
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The dollar and the euro isn't that far off parity.Imagine getting 32 euros and hour guaranteed plus holiday pay 52 weeks a year.
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https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/29/24188851/uber-lyft-driver-minimum-wage-settlement-massachusetts-benefits-healthcare-sick-leave (https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/29/24188851/uber-lyft-driver-minimum-wage-settlement-massachusetts-benefits-healthcare-sick-leave)
Is thers a growing trend in America of treating uber drivers as employees ?
I know the App was shit all weekend. I was bored with no work on FN at about 03.30 so headed for home as there was no work on the screen.
When I reversed into the garden and turned off the engine, I checked the screen one last time. There was a scatter of airports due for the next few hours. F**k them!!
Why they leave the bookings until the last minute is anyone's guess.
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The dollar and the euro isn't that far off parity.Imagine getting 32 euros and hour guaranteed plus holiday pay 52 weeks a year.
"Imagine getting 32 euros and hour guaranteed plus holiday pay 52 weeks a year" How much have you left after supply and maintain?
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https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/29/24188851/uber-lyft-driver-minimum-wage-settlement-massachusetts-benefits-healthcare-sick-leave (https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/29/24188851/uber-lyft-driver-minimum-wage-settlement-massachusetts-benefits-healthcare-sick-leave)
Is thers a growing trend in America of treating uber drivers as employees ?
Yes, and esp in Europe. At first, Govts swallowed the line that this was the new frontier, new tech, and it was gonna transform the world! Then they realised they weren't paying any tax (the companies or the 'partner-drivers) and that's a no-no for Govts. In Europe, they cared a little bit about worker's rights & all that as well.
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Imagine getting 32 euros and hour guaranteed plus holiday pay 52 weeks a year" How much have you left after supply and maintain?
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Depends on the driver and their situation Bob but there are day drivers in Dublin not always hitting 30 and hour.Some would be happy to get 20 some days.I'll include myself in that.
I know some night drivers who struggle to break 35 during the week.
Also it must be remembered that the vehicles are a lot cheaper to run in the US too.No taxi plates or suitability messing just a vehicle lease.
The flip side of having to guarantee hourly wages is they can't overload the app with drivers.It could eventually lead to limited hours when it's quiet.
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Sorry it's a bit early I didn't realise I posted that on the front page.Getting wise than Ken I am talking about money.
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The flip side of having to guarantee hourly wages is they can't overload the app with drivers.It could eventually lead to limited hours when it's quiet.
I'm open to correction by Belker but I think that's already happening in New York. Though it's not clear if the apps are playing politics (scrap the min. wage) or just being c*nts...
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I think in some cities in the US where minimum wage rules apply for gig workers on Uber eats the drivers have to schedule thier shifts so that they're not all on the road at the same time.
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I suppose the hole point for most of us is we drive a taxi cause we don't want to be " employees " ....
They'd ( apps ) wud start tellin ya to work Friday/ Saturday
Nite or ther not payin ya atall ....probly put ya on a roster an if yur a licky lacky they'd give ya more favouritism ....
The more I tink about it the more it gives me the heebeegeebees....
Some days I only get 20 quid an fall asleep an go home ....but thats why I luv this job / hobby .....I'm a free man ...
Once they have to pay yu a minimum....yur going to be ther slave one way or another....
Naa ....they can shuve it rite up ther hooters O:-)
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How many taxis does the Taxis for Ireland coalition own? I'm only guessing here but I'd think it's near f**king ZERO.
The proprietor of NPHTA - the original author of the coalition's policy documents - owns or controls about 15 plates and represents the majority of taxi drivers, I think.
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How many taxis does the Taxis for Ireland coalition own? I'm only guessing here but I'd think it's near f**king ZERO.
The proprietor of NPHTA - the original author of the coalition's policy documents - owns or controls about 15 plates and represents the majority of taxi drivers, I think.
Don't.