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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Rat Catcher on January 13, 2026, 02:05:38 pm
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Junk mail from Free Now
Our updated GTCs
We’re updating how you earn on our saver fleet. In our December survey, 64% of you said a percentage-based model feels fairer than either; 1) removing the booking fee (current model), or 2) implementing fixed fares. We’ve listened.
Saver Fleet
You will no longer have to remove the €3 booking fee. Instead, we’re moving to a 75:25 revenue share. Unlike fixed fare models that reduce transparency, this ensures your earnings are tied to the meter. This will leave you better off than before.
• Better earnings: on a €15 saver fare, you will earn €1.50 more than the current model.
• More demand: our tests show a 19% increase in passenger bookings.
• Less waiting: the meter now starts after 2 minutes (not 5), adding up to €2.34 to your fare if passengers are late.
• Choice: you will be able to join or leave the fleet at your own discretion.
Trips From Dublin Airport
Airport trips are high value and a top priority for growth. Our airport marketing investment is already driving more trips from Dublin Airport than ever before. To keep demand high, we’re moving to an 80:20 revenue share. You will no longer have to remove the €3 booking fee.
On top of this, we’ve committed a significant investment to wider passenger incentives, all designed to get you more bookings and better earning opportunities than ever before. We will also continue to fund passenger discounts from Dublin Airport.
The legal bit
These changes start 27 January 2026. You’ll need to accept the updated GTCs in-app on this date. View the full terms here.
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rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl ::fds ::fds ::fds ::fds ::fds ::fdsfella on roys
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Apart from the money, it's the sense of powerlessness, when yanks take over complete contol of our working conditions, and this all aligns with the mindset of the republican terror state that is the USA, disruption of businesses, didroption everyone's livliehoods but their own, regime change etc. The USA's sense of entitlement is horrifying. At least 30% of my posts on social media are not forwarded.
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Junk mail from Free Now
Our updated GTCs
We’re updating how you earn on our saver fleet. In our December survey, 64% of you said a percentage-based model feels fairer than either; 1) removing the booking fee (current model), or 2) implementing fixed fares. We’ve listened.
Saver Fleet
You will no longer have to remove the €3 booking fee. Instead, we’re moving to a 75:25 revenue share. Unlike fixed fare models that reduce transparency, this ensures your earnings are tied to the meter. This will leave you better off than before.
• Better earnings: on a €15 saver fare, you will earn €1.50 more than the current model.
• More demand: our tests show a 19% increase in passenger bookings.
• Less waiting: the meter now starts after 2 minutes (not 5), adding up to €2.34 to your fare if passengers are late.
• Choice: you will be able to join or leave the fleet at your own discretion.
Trips From Dublin Airport
Airport trips are high value and a top priority for growth. Our airport marketing investment is already driving more trips from Dublin Airport than ever before. To keep demand high, we’re moving to an 80:20 revenue share. You will no longer have to remove the €3 booking fee.
On top of this, we’ve committed a significant investment to wider passenger incentives, all designed to get you more bookings and better earning opportunities than ever before. We will also continue to fund passenger discounts from Dublin Airport.
The legal bit
These changes start 27 January 2026. You’ll need to accept the updated GTCs in-app on this date. View the full terms here.
Who wrote that ? I taut cannibal lecter was a fictional character...
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Apart from the money, it's the sense of powerlessness, when yanks take over complete contol of our working conditions, and this all aligns with the mindset of the republican terror state that is the USA, disruption of businesses, didroption everyone's livliehoods but their own, regime change etc. The USA's sense of entitlement is horrifying.
Bob .... the Yanks arnt responsible for allowing lyft or uber to do what they want in ireland ? .... the government are . They are the legislators.... at least they are supposed to be . They cud / can stop it today if they wanted to ....... the same way the irish government could stop goldman sachs from buying every apartment block being built in ireland and excluding them from the market . Thers deals being done in this country by senior politicians, so called businessmen and bankers the mafia wud be proud of .... it started with sutherland and goes all the way up to wto wef and the united nations blackrock yu fukin name it .... Meanwhile theyve taken everything away from our kids . The right to a home and a living standard above the poverty line and Now they're talking neutrality isnt a thing abymore . bringin in conscription across Europe and bankrupting the countries of Europe with illegal immigrants and human trafficking profiteering on a scale that makes the deep south look like a corner shop .....
Meanwhile ther distracting you and everyone else with free palastine a war organised and started by the islamic terrorism state of iran and telling you trump is a pedo cause he was photographed wit epstein 40 yers ago .....
Your being hoodwinked ... youll see it in time trump is the great scapegoat
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In our December survey, 64% of you said a percentage-based model feels fairer.
Instead, we’re moving to a 75:25 revenue share.
This will leave you better off than before.
The English language is a wonderfully flexible thing!
I wonder how many would agree to a 25% commission rate if asked outright?
Actually, does that 75 of the 75/25 revenue share go to us or FN?
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Softening the Fleet up to an oncoming 20 % flat rate overall--
20% on one offer 25% on another---next will be 20% overall with 25% and 33% on their promotions---
Too make matter worse Diageo are jacking up Pint in Feb!
DOOMED we are --
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Punter your Wrong they want 40% .Thats their European Average .
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Punter your Wrong they want 40% .Thats their European Average .
It won't stop at 25%, they will bleed us dry. The only thing is there isn't enough of a churn of drivers to drive prices down enough, if there was no rentals this wouldn't happen.
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In our December survey, 64% of you said a percentage-based model feels fairer.
Instead, we’re moving to a 75:25 revenue share.
This will leave you better off than before.
The English language is a wonderfully flexible thing!
I wonder how many would agree to a 25% commission rate if asked outright?
Actually, does that 75 of the 75/25 revenue share go to us or FN?
I gotta agree with Watty, it was a very ambiguous email by FN.
Two Questions I have;
Is it actually 25% commission on Taxi Saver jobs ?
And Secondly of what Benefit is it to the customer if the full E3 PUC is reinstated ?
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It's pretty simple just peel your stickers off.
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You can't do that, Wingnut. If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers and window stickers it's not a taxi.
The example given in the email suggests Free Now get the 25%, Watty and Ken. On a €15 job @ 25% you only pay €3.75 commission compared with €5.25 commission/discount under the current system i.e. under the new system the driver gets paid €1.50 more than under the current system.
Conversely, on a €70 job the driver gets paid €4.25 less under the new system.
On a €30 DAP pickup the driver gets €19.95 under the current system after all deductions (Discount, DAA Fee*, commission). Under the new system the driver will get €21.00 for the same job.
* excludes annual subscription fee.
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Sorry, my mental arithmetic isn't what it was... on a €70 job the driver will get €4.45 less under the new regime, not €4.25 less as suggested above.
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I guess we'll have to wait until it's implemented to see what the riders are charged, Ken.
What I've heard suggested is that the riders will get the same discount as now i.e. €3/job with the firm using the extra commission on higher fares to subsidise the extra discount on lower fares.
It seems to satisfy what drivers' prefer, at least 64% of them. In fact, BS suggested on another thread that he (for one) doesn't care how much commission is charged provided he gets the maximum metered fare before deducting said commission.
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The other obvious benefit to riders is not having to rely on drivers to allow the agreed discount. It has been suggested on here and elsewhere that a lot of (immigrant) drivers accept Taxi Saver jobs and adding the PUC as they would on a full fare job. In fact, I did that myself by accident on a Taxi Saver job I accepted by mistake on NYE. That's the sort of thing that costs Free Now and the drivers who work for the firm repeat business.
... although I'd say some will still add the DAA fee that's not allowed. Maybe they should have made DAA jobs 25% as well and allowed drivers charge the DAA fee?
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I guess we'll have to wait until it's implemented to see what the riders are charged, Ken.
What I've heard suggested is that the riders will get the same discount as now i.e. €3/job with the firm using the extra commission on higher fares to subsidise the extra discount on lower fares.
It seems to satisfy what drivers' prefer, at least 64% of them. In fact, BS suggested on another thread that he (for one) doesn't care how much commission is charged provided he gets the maximum metered fare before deducting said commission.
It's not that I don't care, I suggested that competition should/might take care of what the apps charge us. What I want is the NTA to enforce it that we always get the metered fare, noting that app use is ubiquitous, and all are seeking market domination leaving no option to earn a living wage but to use them. Ideally an NTA app introduced.
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That's the circle that the NTA have to square. Every 2 years, the NTA spends a lot of money to come up with a fancy 70 page detailed report (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/publications/national-maximum-taxi-fare-review-report-2024/) on taxi fares. In simple terms, it calculates what an average taxi driver doing an average job needs to make an average living. At the same time, the NTA has acknowledged that discounts exist and can be a good thing. Maybe they were thinking about drivers discounting the odd few euro here and there or maybe a discount for regular work. I can't imagine they envisaged the apps taking a wholesale 15-30% off the bulk of the taxi market's earnings.
With a regulated metered fare structure, the taxi drivers can plan for safe working hours, plan for their families, and plan for their replacement taxis. If the apps can take out 20-30-40%-whatever % of the fare, all that goes out the window and you'll be left with exhausted drivers driving dangerous defective vehicles for a pittance with no concern for anybody or anything, just the next fiver.
The NTA have to pick a side: a quality- & safety-focused industry or a free-for-all, dog-eat-dog one?
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The future?
Private hire union backs second Uber strike this week as drivers escalate pay dispute (https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/post/private-hire-union-backs-second-uber-strike-this-week-as-drivers-escalate-pay-dispute)
... That stoppage was organised in response to new terms and conditions introduced by Uber [UK] for drivers operating outside London, which came into force on 5 January.
... Under the revised agreement, Uber introduced a variable service fee model, with commission rates fluctuating between 3% and 49% per trip. Drivers were required to accept the updated terms in order to retain access to the platform, a change that has prompted concern across the private hire sector about income stability and transparency.
... Uber has previously said changes to its pricing and fee structures are necessary to reflect local market conditions and ensure the sustainability of the platform.
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That's the circle that the NTA have to square. Every 2 years, the NTA spends a lot of money to come up with a fancy 70 page detailed report (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/publications/national-maximum-taxi-fare-review-report-2024/) on taxi fares. In simple terms, it calculates what an average taxi driver doing an average job needs to make an average living. At the same time, the NTA has acknowledged that discounts exist and can be a good thing. Maybe they were thinking about drivers discounting the odd few euro here and there or maybe a discount for regular work. I can't imagine they envisaged the apps taking a wholesale 15-30% off the bulk of the taxi market's earnings.
With a regulated metered fare structure, the taxi drivers can plan for safe working hours, plan for their families, and plan for their replacement taxis. If the apps can take out 20-30-40%-whatever % of the fare, all that goes out the window and you'll be left with exhausted drivers driving dangerous defective vehicles for a pittance with no concern for anybody or anything, just the next fiver.
The NTA have to pick a side: a quality- & safety-focused industry or a free-for-all, dog-eat-dog one?
Nail on the head,great post.,
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That's the circle that the NTA have to square. Every 2 years, the NTA spends a lot of money to come up with a fancy 70 page detailed report (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/publications/national-maximum-taxi-fare-review-report-2024/) on taxi fares. In simple terms, it calculates what an average taxi driver doing an average job needs to make an average living. At the same time, the NTA has acknowledged that discounts exist and can be a good thing. Maybe they were thinking about drivers discounting the odd few euro here and there or maybe a discount for regular work. I can't imagine they envisaged the apps taking a wholesale 15-30% off the bulk of the taxi market's earnings.
With a regulated metered fare structure, the taxi drivers can plan for safe working hours, plan for their families, and plan for their replacement taxis. If the apps can take out 20-30-40%-whatever % of the fare, all that goes out the window and you'll be left with exhausted drivers driving dangerous defective vehicles for a pittance with no concern for anybody or anything, just the next fiver.
The NTA have to pick a side: a quality- & safety-focused industry or a free-for-all, dog-eat-dog one?
Nail on the head,great post.,
Indeed
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Seemingly according to Derek O Keefe we will have an Oireactas committee meeting on Taxi fares in the first 3 months of this year.
Hopefully they will ban the apps from discounting at the taxi drivers expense, and also ban the App 'Technology' fee.
http://intaxi.org/forum/VID-20251210-WA0009.mp4 (http://intaxi.org/forum/VID-20251210-WA0009.mp4)
I'll hold tough a while and see what happens ??
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Why the hell is a limo driver meeting with ministers on our behalf?
Am I getting wrong info here is yer man a taxi driver?
Discounts will never be banned BTW.
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Wasn't he also promised a meeting 'with Govt officials' before Xmas as a result of the last 'strike'? Whatever happened to that meeting?
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Seemingly according to Derek O Keefe we will have an Oireactas committee meeting on Taxi fares in the first 3 months of this year.
Hopefully they will ban the apps from discounting at the taxi drivers expense, and also ban the App 'Technology' fee.
[url]http://intaxi.org/forum/VID-20251210-WA0009.mp4[/url] ([url]http://intaxi.org/forum/VID-20251210-WA0009.mp4[/url])
I'll hold tough a while and see what happens ??
No Kenneth The Oireachtas has NO POWER TO SET FARES that was divested to the Taxi Regulator..These Clowns played right into UBER and Free Nows Hands I posted and Warned .The Goodbody report is the Bluepring for the taxi industry .Goodbody have done other reports on LUAS light rail Building homes loads of stuff these are then adopted by the Government departments .
in Goodbody .They mentioned Peak Demand not being Met .The suggestion in the report was a Half a Plate that could only work Peak times .
The report also suggested CCTV we rejected that but now that Garda have Body Cams and the legislation is in Place for Legal use of Facial Recognition in Car CCTV would give the State 16K plus mobile observation platforms paid for by us .
Goodbody also suggested ALL taxis should be Aligned to a Dispatcher .The Review will confirm this and both Free Now and Uber will be embraced along with any other Dispatcher .there might be some new rules about App Providers retaining 20% of your after commission earnings for tax reasons .This will be sold to drivers as preventing Casual UBER BLack drivers getting your Taxi fares ?
So Kenneth The Review is not of Fares but of the 2012 Act .In my humble opinion it will confirm that Dispatchers are Legal it will also confirm as suggested by Goodbody Off Street Ranks ie the You pay Holding Area in Dublin Airport possibly allowing Super Markets charge Drivers for Standing ,Hotels charging Drivers for Standing or Hospitals charging Any off street standing being Chargable with the Apps controlling the Work . Cannot be cheap traveling from Cork to Dublin and possibly staying overnight and meeting TD .Who is financing this movement ?
If I was Uber or Free Now I would be laughing me bollox off at the fucking stupidity of asking to review legislation all that can happen is some new rules for the Issue of Dispatcher Licences but the Oireachtas or Taxi Regulator have Absolutely no legal powers to impose comission limits of independent dispatch businesses .Just like they cannot impose limits on the price of Drink oe Mobile Phones .
The Big danger with this review that some Hack from Cork got for us is Will UBER and others who are offering set fares say to Government in line with Goodbodys refrence to Prime time shortages .We can supply a metered fare and fully traceable taxi service ?
Now gents ask yourself why UBER and Free Now use to have Prime Time working hours .Do you really think they were not collecting Data to Show to Power that there was peak demand unmet even offering Existing Drivers big Bonuses the work could not be covered .Now Goodbody said more WATs and A moratorium on Saloon Plates .Unlikely as in there will not ever be any more Saloon Plates as they removed our Plate Values but that does not mean a New Fourth level not Saloon ,Not WAT,Not Hack but a new possibly CITY Hack licence be introduced as a result of the Review We asked For .
Unfortunately Taxi men playing Politics idiots who cannot find their way around without Tom Tom or Google Maps trying to navigate with sharks in a political Pool of their Making .Good luck with getting any sort of result out of the BIG REVIEW rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
Did you really think the Dispatchers wont be making representation to a Review ?
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GOODBODY FINDINGS AND RECOMENDATIONS .
Service Quality & Consumer Findings
Consumers generally perceived service quality and vehicle standards as good, and uniform national fare structures provided better value for money.
The reform program sought to enhance vehicle and driver standards while keeping compliance costs relatively low.
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Key Findings on Peak-Time Service and Coverage
1. Peak demand in the taxi market is concentrated on certain times
The report confirmed that demand for taxi/SPSV services is highly “peaked” — with most trips occurring between Thursday and Saturday, especially Friday and Saturday nights. This means supply needs vary sharply over the week.
2. Supply is less peaked than demand
Goodbody found that while supply does increase during busy periods, it doesn’t rise as much as demand does, especially at the busiest times. In other words: the number of drivers on the road at peak times doesn’t fully meet what passengers want.
3. Part-time drivers play a key role in peak coverage
Part-time drivers were much more likely to supply services on peak days (Friday/Saturday) compared with full-time drivers.
But because many drivers are part-time or hold another job, their overall contribution to peak supply is valuable but still less than demand at the busiest times.
4. Demand still exceeds supply at peak times overall
The report specifically noted that there was evidence that taxi service demand still exceeded supply at peak times, meaning some journeys might go unmet or waiting times could be longer.
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By God ! Ye really love Knocking everything ! ::fds
I'm not holding out much hope fer the Uber Fixed fares or the FN Saver jobs or the poxy app Technology fee to all be abolished in the upcoming Oireachtas taxi committee meeting, but still it's good that at least something is happening, if nothing else then it gives the Whingers something new to moan about.
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Na Ken Did you do any ancient Philosophy in School .Pandora's Box .The taxi issue was dealt with sorted we didnt exactly like it but sorted .Now who can benefit from a Review . The taxi industry is Godlike Three Divine Persons in the one God God the Driver ,God the Passenger ,God the Dispatcher .now what do you gain from that insight Kenneth ? We are outnumbered 2/1.In any REVIEW do you think the Passengers wont be involvrd or represented ,Do you think the Dispatchers wont be involved .The Drivers wont be we are already legislated for by LAW .
Who asked for a Review ? and a review of what ? I am an independent business owner Kenneth I know what the rules were I could choose to pay extortionate rates support the companies who wished to extort my wages or not .That was a Business decision .Why would I ask some TD with possibly a vested interest in improving transport for his electorate to review my Business Conditions a Minister who had no imput into the Original Legislation as he possibly was in Secondry School at the time .
Did you ever hear any other Licenced Business asking for a review of their Licencing who benifited from it .Do Publicans go around shouting review the Licencing laws so you can decide if more Pub licences are needed or price control is needed or restrictions on brands are needed .
I have Stated on here and Roys loads of times ." IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING SAY NOTHING NOW YOU ARE TALKING .Silence speaks louder than words Kenneth we taxi drivers have NO Leaverage NONE .
Tell me this Kenneth as you support this nonsence .Who is behind this movement ,Who is funding it ,Who are on the Committee if any .Who appointed or elected them ,How many drivers do they actually represent .OH yeh did you come to Dublin to Support their protest .At the time I stated I would not work during any Protest as I am a Lifelong Trade Unionost but I also stated I did not support their actions .
Let me explain a bit of Politics to you .By threatening to withdraw a licenced Service at the Peak time before Christmas we created a PR disaster in the eyes of both Politicians and the Public .Not a good starting point for any review .
Im stating what I see .Who is behind this REVIEW and WHY ..Like I Said Ken Three parts to this industry and we are the weakest .The rules as they are gave us a small piece of protection why review that .The Oireachtas has NO power to set Fares as in NONE discounted or Metered ABSOLUTELY NONE .They have NO POWER to REGULATE COMISSION in a BUSINESS NONE .So how can taxi owner drivers gain ANYTHING from a Review ? WE CANNOT but the other two moving parts Dispatchers and Passengers can .
Big Dommos ma use to give out to him for picking at the scabs on his knees if he fell saying .Leave well enough alone .She wasent really talking about the Scab she was giving a lesson in Life .
Do you remember the last review we asked for 9 year rule ,Suitability ,Stickers , Some people never learn .
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As you say, Watty... it's a round peg in a square hole exercise. Two points of note are that NTA has a statutory obligation to encourage competition on price and the National maximum taximeter rate was introduced as precisely that, a maximum. Forcing men to charge Temple Bar rates in every little rural backwater would/will adversely affect the entire trade as the men who lose that work will be forced up into the cities unless the current temporary moratorium on the issue of saloon hackney plates is lifted simultaneously.... particularly when the next recession hits.
In any event such a regime won't stop the rideshare platforms from giving discounts. They'll just increase commission to finance those discounts in the fullness of time. In fact, Free Now has already adopted that methodology albeit with relatively low (relative to what Lyft achieves globally) commission fees for the time being
What is required is maximum price regulation on fees charged by rideshare platforms coupled with a ban on below cost selling.
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https://www.rte.ie/news/2026/0121/1554302-taxi-regulation-uber/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/2026/0121/1554302-taxi-regulation-uber/)
The Oireachtas Committee on Transport has heard that Uber’s new fixed fare system has "changed the balance" for taxi drivers and passengers alike.
The Committee heard the FreeNow taxi app has also raised its commission to 25%, something the National Private Hire and Taxi Association called a "fundamental shift in control".
"App companies are no longer acting merely as booking platforms; they are now effectively setting fares, controlling work allocation, and influencing driver income," spokesperson, Jim Waldron said.
He called for the National Transport Authority (NTA) to be "explicitly empowered" to regulate taxi apps or if this is not possible, "develop a publicly regulated booking system".
In November, hundreds of taxi drivers protested Uber’s fix fare system in Dublin’s city centre.
The system allows Uber passengers to pay an upfront price calculated by the app’s own algorithm as an alternative to the NTA’s regulated meter fare.
The upfront price cannot go above the taxi’s maximum fare price, but it can go below it.
In statement at the time, Uber said its fixed price offer does not breach fare regulations outlined in the Taxi Regulation Act 2013 - noting that riders are "much more likely to book a trip" if they know what the fare is going to be, creating "more earning opportunities" for drivers.
The company added that drivers can see their estimated earnings before accepting a job - as well as various algorithmic factors that influence it.
The taxi meter is 'fair, transparent and trusted'
In his opening statement, Mr Waldron said the taxi meter is now being undermined.
He said it was a system "established by the NTA following extensive public consultation, designed to balance affordability for passengers with a financially sustainable career for drivers".
He called the taxi meter "fair, transparent, and trusted", adding that the system works in the public interest.
Mr Waldron criticised a market driven by "profit-driven algorithm" that threatens the "long-term vitality of the profession".
He said this is also a passenger issue as app companies "have no obligation to ensure rural coverage".
He called for clear assurances from the Committee that "driver livelihoods will be protected and that the NTA will retain full authority over fares, standards and market oversight".
The Committee's Chair Michael Murphy acknowledged that the taxi sector is facing "significant challenges".
"It is important to recognise the strength and consistency of concerns raised by taxi representative organisations across the country," he said.
'Predatory dispatch platforms'
President of the Irish Taxi Drivers’ Federation called for the taxi regulations to be updated to stop the "fast-moving app companies destroying the taxi industry in Ireland".
Alan Cooley said, "predatory dispatch platforms" have "ruined the lives of countless taxi drivers".
"We know from other countries that Uber and other app companies, that their business model is to dismantle the taxi industry in each and every country they gain entry into," he said.
He said Ireland’s "very successful regulated taxi industry" risks becoming a "part-time industry which is not controlled by the NTA".
Mr Cooley said the 2013 Taxi Regulation Act "has no legislation to protect the taxi industry because in 2013 the tech companies did not exist".
'Reduced rural availability'
The Committee also heard that rural taxi services have been affected.
The Chair of the Tralee Taxi Association said: "Rural taxi services operate on structure, not algorithms: phone bookings, regular customers, and local rosters that guarantee early-morning, late-night, and emergency cover."
"That structure is now being undermined," said Terry Boyle.
He said app platforms have no obligation to provide coverage, resulting in "reduced rural availability" and "drivers leaving rural counties to work in cities".
Tiománaí Tacsaí na hÉireann’s chairperson said technology companies have "gained a monopoly" in the industry.
David McGuinness called for legislation to be updated to "outlaw these practices and protect drivers' incomes and customers alike".
"It is our opinion on the evidence from other jurisdictions that this is only the beginning of the moves by these companies to force a totally unregulated taxi market into Ireland," said Mr McGuinness.
Uber and FreeNow have been invited to give their own statements to a future sitting of the Transport Committee.
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..... men to charge Temple Bar rates in every little rural backwater........
You have mentioned this issue multiple times Stephen and I don't understand why you think a driver in a little back water town should charge less that a city driver working the Temple bar area ??
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How do the Hackney drivers Mr. Waldron represents calculate their fares?
The Tralee man is making most sense. If there is to be a minimum national metered fare it's those rural drivers and firms that will be put out of business and/or forced up into the cities to work.
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..... men to charge Temple Bar rates in every little rural backwater........
You have mentioned this issue multiple times Stephen and I don't understand why you think a driver in a little back water town should charge less that a city driver working the Temple bar area ??
It's just the way it's always been done. Local firms set fares appropriate to local conditions. I did post a good example of significant differences on one of my shifts last year. Getting a score on the meter out in the county took about 10 mins -vs- up to 30 mins up above in the city. If a rural publican tried to charge €12 for a pint of plain he wouldn't last long. The National taximeter fare is essentially an extension of the Dublin Taximeter Area well beyond it's traditional boundaries of a 10 (and later 15) mile radius of the GPO. Within that area it works quite well and always has, I guess.... although...
The advent of rideshare platforms essentially opens up the entire country to all licensed drivers which does call into question the need for incremental distance based rates within the new national taximeter fare structure. Such increments are obviously intended to compensate drivers for being taken out of their normal area of operation i.e. to compensate for the return journey. Having a national taximeter area coupled with national rideshare platforms means drivers can (and do) work anywhere hence the "return" journey is now irrelevant.
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Just to clarify, Ken... I've never suggested drivers in rural areas should charge less than drivers up above in the big cities. My contention is that they shouldn't be obliged to charge the maximum permissible rate. Drivers/firms may well enforce different rates for different clients e.g. regulars might get a set fare whereas tourists/blow ins might be charged on the meter. If NTA decide that all drivers must charge all clients the maximum permissible rate business will be lost and the impact of the next recession will be devastating.... not just to the rural drivers but to their city cousins who's work they will be forced to take.
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Today is attack day Watch everything I said would Happen .On CCTV and Security .YOUR reps said you work to long Free Now are saying Drivers are quitting early because of Safety .Solution Mandatory CCTV in Vehicles paid for by us .Free Now also going to rat on you for not paying VAT .Solution Income retention at Source. Like I ASKED BUT NEVER GOT AN ANSWER ?Who asked for this review ?
And we still dont know what Uber have tosay 15000 Taxi plate owners but 4 million passengers .Who do you think is going to win that arguement SORRY did I say Passengers I meant Voters .
The stupidest move ever made by an industry asking for a review not understanding Apps and Dispatchers have years of Data and Professional PR teams we have lads in tracksuits with seriously limited intelligence .
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Better off just tuning out John.Those unions have very few members.I genuinely thought they'd stopped representing anyone as I haven't heard from any of them in a long time.I really don't know why or how they got meetings with government officials.They don't represent the majority of the fleet but they will be held accountable if they fuk things up.
Tune out and we might live a bit longer.
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I hear the Indian lads have set up their own union... calling for a 24 hour withdrawal of service from all apps except Hola starting at 06:00 tomorrow (Sat 31st).
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I hear the Indian lads have set up their own union... calling for a 24 hour withdrawal of service from all apps except Hola starting at 06:00 tomorrow (Sat 31st).
Encouraging if it's supported.
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Not sure, BS. The few white Irish by accident of birth lads I know that work for Hola get very little off it. Presumably the logarithms ensure their own lads get first dibs.. which is fair enough, I guess.
Their withdrawal of service hasn't impacted on any of the multicultural firms they've targeted on this occasion in any event:
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There seems to be no end to new unions springing up these days with very little correlation and no support for each others' protests.
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We need a 'Jesus' figure to bring us all together in harmony. I wonder do we have a Middle Eastern driver with a hint of Judaism in their background in the fleet? They would obviously have to drive a non-polluting EV. It rains here a lot so sandals would be optional.
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We need a 'Jesus' figure to bring us all together in harmony. I wonder do we have a Middle Eastern driver with a hint of Judaism in their background in the fleet? They would obviously have to drive a non-polluting EV. It rains here a lot so sandals would be optional.
Na Watty this game was over after dereg .Lads who got the plate and the sister got the gaff were never going to agree to anything that did not make them whole after dereg .Lads working the Kesh wanted to Working class hero and learn to smile as they kill as they were the men on the top of the hill .The lad on Roys warned you all about Workcapture .The Bobo got addictive the stickers were worn like military medals .There are too many vested interests .Lads claiming they are Reps .I spoke years ago to a TD said they knew those Groups had no Paying Members that those reps were Convenient Idiots .Call them in listin to them moaning never with Solutions leaving the Goal Open for the Taxi thingey or Others to propose Solutions .These Clowns destroyed this Industry .
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Sarcasm is the use of irony, mockery, or taunting to convey contempt, frustration, or humor
It might have been a bad joke but I was joking!
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Do you disagree with my reply ?
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It's not a joking matter, Watty.
The wee protestant lass got me a wonderful mug for Christmas with "Jesus, Mary and Joseph... and the Wee Donkey" printed on it!
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Do you disagree with my reply ?
Yes, in so far as I understood it :P We're too big a group to be organised properly, we're self-employed so no 'real' union anyways, and too many are chasing the next fiver to think beyond the next 24 hours.
Got 2 taxis yesterday. The 1st fella was Irish driving an MG4 EV. He lived in Enfield but worked Dublin mostly. After 4 years, he had 300,000 km on it and was looking to scrap it and get another EV grant. The second was Chinese driving a VW Caddy and didn't say a word. Neither of them would strike/protest for me or you.
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Do you disagree with my reply ?
Yes, in so far as I understood it :P We're too big a group to be organised properly, we're self-employed so no 'real' union anyways, and too many are chasing the next fiver to think beyond the next 24 hours.
Got 2 taxis yesterday. The 1st fella was Irish driving an MG4 EV. He lived in Enfield but worked Dublin mostly. After 4 years, he had 300,000 km on it and was looking to scrap it and get another EV grant. The second was Chinese driving a VW Caddy and didn't say a word. Neither of them would strike/protest for me or you.
Right and Correct Watty .WHO ASKED FOR THIS REVIEW ? Where is the hack from Cork ?
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The writing has been on the wall since Minister Molloy faced us down in 1999. Ironically, most of the lads on here wouldn't be in the trade had he not done so and, to be fair, a lot of us have survived thus far. It mightn't be as bad as you think.