Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: john m on October 18, 2017, 01:37:38 pm
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According to somebody I know .Ross has been asked to look again at rideshare for rural Ireland in return for support for his drink driving bill .A lot of FG TDs are not in favour and there is concern that if Ross,s bill gets defeated and FG TD s didnt support a Government bill that there will be a vote of no confidence in the government .Ross has big problems with Cranny and Moran from his own party who dont support his bill .Could be fun and games soon Government will be defeated this evening by a FF bill on restoring pensions .
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Dep of Transport statement ..Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, Mr Shane Ross TD, today met with key stakeholders* representing rural Ireland and transport groups to discuss ways of addressing transport in rural Ireland in order to enhance social life and combat rural isolation.
Minister Ross said;
“We all know that there are more alternatives to using one’s own car in urban than in rural areas. Some possible solutions are car-sharing, vintner-provided transport, or wider rural transport solutions, but there are challenges for all of these options. If solving the problem was easy it would have been done long ago, but I am heartened to hear some possible, and in some cases innovative, ideas from stakeholders today. These will be followed up with a view to analysing how effective they may be in tackling the problem.”
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Uber is dead they're gonna keep trying until they run out of money.Don't believe a word ya post anymore.
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Uber is dead they're gonna keep trying until they run out of money.Don't believe a word ya post anymore.
UBER is far from dead .It will be floated on the NYSE in 2019 ,in a few months it will get its licence back in London and use that bit of good PR to relaunch Europe wide .If I had money I would buy shares in UBER .
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You've no money to invest because you keep believing in nonsense.This is the shit that killed the other forum.I'm out..
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You've no money to invest because you keep believing in nonsense.This is the shit that killed the other forum.I'm out..
SEEYA BYEEEEEEEEEE
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dont say you were not warned ....https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1018/913397-drink-driving/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1018/913397-drink-driving/)
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Rideshare coming to a county pub near u
Not the old county though its a dub pub
Block the streets again
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what im hearing publicans will be allowed to apply for a rural hack licence without meeting the present requirements they will be allowed apply in their own name or nominate a local .
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Here is what was explained to me about the rural pubs .Publicans want to sell drink not drive taxies but they are worried if they give a lift home to a customer and have an accident can they be sued or their business be sued as you would need to be a customer of the pub ie bought drink to get a lift so what insurance covers you for the journey is it the car insurance or the pub insurance .As you had to make a purchase to get a lift is that lift considered to have been paid for by your purchase .
If a publican purchases a separate van or car to drive his customers home does he need a hack or taxi licence ?What insurance ,road tax or capital depreciation can he claim .
Most publicans dont want to be bothered with driving customers home they want somebody else to do it but there are not enough taxies in rural Ireland or busses .The issue seems to be more about liability than connectivity .
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Just a thought, could Mr Ross encourage Mytaxi to expand it's coverage to include all of Eire ?
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I think the problem is some rural pubs are just too rural it wouldnt be worth a taxies while to cover them .If they change the rules so a publican can apply for a rural hack licence then they solve the insurance problem as the pub car is a licenced hack ,but what will the publican do with the car the rest of the time as its licenced will he work it and take the bit of work there is from the local taximan if there is one .
Its more to do with insurance than anything else but TDs would like to see more public transport for their voters ,loosening up the rules for rural hacks to allow them even if there was a local taxi might be the thin edge of the wedge .A lot of TDs seem very concerned about rural transport after closing time but dont seem to be bothered how Mrs Burbridge will get down to Spar for milk and her lottery ticket and pension .Be interesting to see what Ross will do about rural transport now that drink driving will be an automatic ban ....There is always the chance the bill will pass there will be an election and it wont get signed into law .
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The rural hack licence was designed for publicans.Drink drive ban is already there.Anything over a pint will put you over the limit.This is a non story.If you choose to live in the middle of nowhere you're not gonna have a Wetherspoons with a que of taxis outside.Tough shit.
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Publican hack..... 8 seater ? He`ll be fucked if he has 20 pax to drop home :D . West County Hotel supplied a mini bus service for locals in the 90`s.
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The rural hack licence was designed for publicans.Drink drive ban is already there.Anything over a pint will put you over the limit.This is a non story.If you choose to live in the middle of nowhere you're not gonna have a Wetherspoons with a que of taxis outside.Tough shit.
I think the story is TD s trying to look concerned and the Publicans who let them hold clinics in the Lounge free of charge are looking to see if they can get any few quid out of it .Watch Rosses mate Canny dont be surprised to see him leaving the Alliance and going back to FF.
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I'd say publicans are queuing up to become hackney drivers!!
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Public liability insurance should do it.
I have a separate policy that covers me for 30 million euros.
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Public liability insurance should do it.
I have a separate policy that covers me for 30 million euros.
That's good to know!!
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Here is what was explained to me about the rural pubs .Publicans want to sell drink not drive taxies but they are worried if they give a lift home to a customer and have an accident can they be sued or their business be sued as you would need to be a customer of the pub ie bought drink to get a lift so what insurance covers you for the journey is it the car insurance or the pub insurance .As you had to make a purchase to get a lift is that lift considered to have been paid for by your purchase .
If a publican purchases a separate van or car to drive his customers home does he need a hack or taxi licence ?What insurance ,road tax or capital depreciation can he claim .
Most publicans dont want to be bothered with driving customers home they want somebody else to do it but there are not enough taxies in rural Ireland or busses .The issue seems to be more about liability than connectivity .
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Guide_for_obtaining_a_local_area_hackney_licence1.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Guide_for_obtaining_a_local_area_hackney_licence1.pdf)
It's €50 to apply, Local Hack driver licence is €20 and the 'suitability' test is fukking free. If this was not enough to get pretend taxis operating in rural areas, then what will?
The truth is that there probably isn't any consistent demand to taxis in rural areas. Nobody is gonna stay sober on a Sat night for a few fivers driving smelly drunks up and down boreens.
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The publican would most likely need to employ someone to drop all the drunks home at the end of the night. And every pub would need to do that. Who would like that job?? rofl
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It's €50 to apply, Local Hack driver licence is €20 and the 'suitability' test is fukking free. If this was not enough to get pretend taxis operating in rural areas, then what will?
Why even give the €70...if the publican is gonna drop them home!!
The local bobby isn't gonna start checkin if the passengers are payin or not...as long as whoever is drivin is sober and as watty says there probably wouldn't be a consistent demand for a rural hack.
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If Mytaxi was open fer the whole of Eire, then it would be a help.
Granted it would not be perfect and would probably work less
than 33% of the time, but it would be a help.
I know of some drivers who sit at home all day with the Mytaxi app
turned on and only go out when a job they fancy pops up on it.
Maybe some rural taxi or hack drivers if they had a Mytaxi app
might do the same ?
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Here is what was explained to me about the rural pubs .Publicans want to sell drink not drive taxies but they are worried if they give a lift home to a customer and have an accident can they be sued or their business be sued as you would need to be a customer of the pub ie bought drink to get a lift so what insurance covers you for the journey is it the car insurance or the pub insurance .As you had to make a purchase to get a lift is that lift considered to have been paid for by your purchase .
If a publican purchases a separate van or car to drive his customers home does he need a hack or taxi licence ?What insurance ,road tax or capital depreciation can he claim .
Most publicans dont want to be bothered with driving customers home they want somebody else to do it but there are not enough taxies in rural Ireland or busses .The issue seems to be more about liability than connectivity .
I would agree with you on that John M, if Paddy the publican drops old Joe home a few times a week and old Joe pays him a Tenner fer the fare, then in practise he is driving fer 'Hire and Reward'. If they have an accident and old Joe gets injured and it becomes known to the insurance company that old Joe was actually paying fer his lift home, they will nulify the claim and most likely Paddy will be left with the bill fer old Joes injuries and Compo.
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Anyway belker how much u getting off John this time
200 again
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Anyway belker how much u getting off John this time
200 again
unless there is a miracle and Ross does a huge u turn I owe KEN 202 euro and Will have no problem paying up .I lost the bet but won as I still have a job .
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To be fair to John M, he offered to pay up well in advance of the final outcome,
but I declined his generous offer.
Gamblers generally are a very superstitious lot and getting paid in advance is
not known fer good luck.
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It was my understanding that MyPoxi was already countrywide.
Also, wait until publics see their insurance quotes for the rural hacks, they will have to have public liability insurance. If not, you have a lot of taxi drivers asking why their insurance is so high paying for Public Liability, and what the Rural Hacks will only have private insurance?
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It was my understanding that MyPoxi was already countrywide.
I don't think so, as far as I know it's just Dooblin, Cork, Limerick and Galway.
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It didn't get much traction outside the bigger cities.They tried though.
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Did they ?
Maybe with the PUC reinstated, they should try again.
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Yes.
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According to somebody I know .Ross has been asked to look again at rideshare for rural Ireland in return for support for his drink driving bill .A lot of FG TDs are not in favour and there is concern that if Ross,s bill gets defeated and FG TD s didnt support a Government bill that there will be a vote of no confidence in the government .Ross has big problems with Cranny and Moran from his own party who dont support his bill .Could be fun and games soon Government will be defeated this evening by a FF bill on restoring pensions .
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/publicans-could-drive-drinkers-home-under-new-proposals-from-ross-1.3266207 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/publicans-could-drive-drinkers-home-under-new-proposals-from-ross-1.3266207)
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The measures being looked at include making breath tests available to individuals, offering designated drivers free soft drinks and making rural hackney licences more accessible.
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The Minister has asked the National Transport Authority (NTA) to assess the roll-out of community car services and the level of demand for such a scheme to be developed. Local volunteers would use their own car to help individuals who have difficulty accessing forms of transport but could receive some financial payment.
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The Minister has asked the National Transport Authority (NTA) to assess the roll-out of community car services = RIDESHARE
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Go and shite.
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.Local volunteers would use their own car to help individuals .
Could the local volunteers be organised by multinational profiteers?
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.Local volunteers would use their own car to help individuals .
Could the local volunteers be organised by multinational profiteers?
Do you mean might the local volunteer have an app. The other hidden bit in this is change the application for rural hacks if there are a lot of applications and the clear need and no taxi service is removed as a requirement then existing taxi drivers might rent out their licenced taxi and plate up a rural or community car .Rideshare by the back door .
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A lot of the men done that before deregulation, taking on hackney plates and renting out the taxi plates.
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A lot of the men done that before deregulation, taking on hackney plates and renting out the taxi plates.
nothing new there you could stick some sort of covert marker on your local car to let people know you will give them a jaunt for cash .
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What's the facination with rideshare Ermy?It doesn't make any sense.Yer like the boy who cried wolf, remember that bollix?If anything ever happens we won't believe you because your looking for something isn't there.Very strange.
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Rideshare is definitly coming rural ireland is too scattered for a regular transport system if locals are willing to give people a lift for cash then that solves a lot of rural transport issues .
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They fucking survived this long in the fucking sticks without a decent transport service they don't need one.
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Ermy ya live in Clondalkin.Why so concerned?
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nothing new there you could stick some sort of covert marker on your local car to let people know you will give them a jaunt for cash .
A lot of the men that drove hackneys before deregulation used overt markers in the form of plastic balls on their aerials, the aerials themselves connected to two way wirelesses that they were not legally entitled to use. I'm not sure that covert markers would work as , by definition, being surreptitious in nature they'd be indistinguishable.
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Ermy ya live in Clondalkin.Why so concerned?
Simple merc if the country cousins can get rural hacks they might then rent out their licenced taxi to people with PSV driving licences to compete with me in the smoke .Cause and effect .
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Yer not even using yer own cab for hire with all the mooching ya do around the Airport.You might as well be in a limo or driving a bus for Roy.
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I dont work the port apart from picking up family I havent picked up a fare from the port in 18 months .
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There's no such thing as a rural hackney, they are licensed as Local Area Hackneys.
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I don't believe ya stick up yer toll bridge statements for the laugh...
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There's no such thing as a rural hackney, they are licensed as Local Area Hackneys.
good spot Rodent so what is the Minister refering to in this statement ...The measures being looked at include making breath tests available to individuals, offering designated drivers free soft drinks and making rural hackney licences more accessible.......Is he considering another type of hack licence ?
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I doubt it. From what the dispatch firms are saying most of the individuals requiring help getting to and from bars are in the cities, Dublin in particular.
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Rodent I still have that docket to collect 3000 if there is a December election .This sounds like desperation from Ross to keep the FG alers on board ,IF Canny votes against this bill he is a junior minister so has to be sacked FF might go for a vote of no confidence in the government if one of its ministers goes rogue .
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Rodent I still have that docket to collect 3000 if there is a December election .This sounds like desperation from Ross to keep the FG alers on board ,IF Canny votes against this bill he is a junior minister so has to be sacked FF might go for a vote of no confidence in the government if one of its ministers goes rogue .
@ John M. I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but really ya should pack up the gambling game.
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150/1 KEN It was overpriced
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What's the facination with rideshare Ermy?It doesn't make any sense.Yer like the boy who cried wolf, remember that bollix?If anything ever happens we won't believe you because your looking for something isn't there.Very strange.
Coming from the taxi driver that pays 1300 in annual taxi insurance and covers only 16KM per year,
it does seem very strange ! "Cry Wolf !"
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150/1 KEN It was overpriced
No, it was not, See post number 53.
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Does anybody think this is a storm in a teacup .Spoke with the Rodent earlier and as he pointed out most drinkers take more drink than the new proposed limits so in reality how many drinkers will actually be effected by the new limits If this was really about drink driving then so few are effected by the lower limits as they would be over the existing limits anyway .Is this a smoke screen to allow Ross and the dep of trans amend the rural hack qualifications as the existing ones are too onerous and there has been limited take up and if that dosent encourage take up then introduce rideshare .Is this more about fixing the rural transport problem and not the rural drinking problem Why would the minister for health want to promote alcohol consumption by providing cheap transport to the pub .
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If free soft drinks are to be provided for designated drivers will the government have to introduce the free designated drivers bill 2017 to allow for the non payment of the sugar tax on the free minerals .
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Nobody cares Erm shite topic..it was shite when it was being reposted on Roy's kip too.......Belker if there's anything you need help with let me know.I don't come on here chasing Uber ghosts everyday.Whats the point?
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http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/transport-minister-considering-community-cars-to-cut-down-on-drink-driving-811123.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/transport-minister-considering-community-cars-to-cut-down-on-drink-driving-811123.html)
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.... most drinkers take more drink than the new proposed limits .....
What new proposed limits ?
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.... most drinkers take more drink than the new proposed limits .....
What new proposed limits ?
I think its an automatic ban if your over 50 ml it use to be 80 or something like that I have no real interest i dont drink and drive .The new limit will mean 1 pint and your over thats why I suspect there is more to this than drink limits how many people go to the pub for 1 pint Merc sill dosent get it nobody is talking about UBER Rideshare is a compleatly different thing most dispatchers will sign up rideshare if it is allowed .Read the opening line from THE PAPER .Rideshare is coming but probably not before 31/12/ 2017 so you
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There is no new limits John M, Yiz really should do your research before posting.
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There's no new limits but, to be fair to the 'erm, he's not a million miles from the facts. In fact, he's a damn sight closer than normal. The changes only affect those who have a pint or two. I doubt there's many pub drinkers that fall into that category, particularly down the bog. The problem for rural publicans is that habits changed during the recession. Even big thick boggers are hosting dinner parties and drinking at home. The village pub is no longer the centre of their universe hence many have closed down or are up for sale. If/when the economic recovery extends to rural Ireland those that are still in business will experience some improvement in trade but they will never be the goldmines they once were.
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4 lads in a pub Finbar ,Mursheen.Malachy and Michael swamping porter and comparing Soda Bread recopies .They normally have ten pints two Paddy and water and a bag of Tayto each .It dosent make a blind bit of difference to them what the new automatic ban level is as they are always well over but they cant get over the fact Young Flannagan the FG TD is going to vote above in Dublin to put me off the road for taking a bit of drink .Kellys idea for a rural hack to solve rural transport shortage was to complicated so Ross will free it up kill a flock of birds with one stone .More rural hacks to cart drunks to bars kids to school nannies to the post office in the next town jobs for the unemployable as hack drivers lifts for the voters going to vote and possibly even employment for refugees .Its amazing how concerned the local TD is about rural transport after closing time .Old Paddy Gilhooley has a bunch of piles hanging from his hole like a 3 euro bunch of Grapes he cant get into Mullingar Hospital to have them frozen off as there is no bus or taxi his local TD dosent give a fuck but he will make sure Paddy can get to the pub for a pint to kill the pain in his sore hole .
I wonder will Killian Kilcoin offer to run Paddy into Mullingar in his voluntary for reward Community Car .
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Ye lost me after 4!
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Ross has done the classic trick of passing off the problem to someone else, i.e., the NTA. The NTA will take 6 months or more with their public consultations shite and by then, there'll be another 'crisis' for everyone to get upset about. Or there'll be another party(s) in power.
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Rideshare Rideshare Rideshare ::fight
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Ross has done the classic trick of passing off the problem to someone else, i.e., the NTA. The NTA will take 6 months or more with their public consultations shite and by then, there'll be another 'crisis' for everyone to get upset about. Or there'll be another party(s) in power.
Ross is trying desperately to redeem himself from his past problems with alcohol. There are none so sanctimonious as reformed sinners. The boys in RTE could rattle off plenty of yarns about him. I'm sure Ruth could too.
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Just wrote to Paggo ......Dear Minister ,
It has been suggested if the road safety drink driving limits bill is passed that one option to be considered is the distribution of free soft drinks to designated drivers .Minister will this option require a change to the finance bill or an amendment to primary legislation .As there will be a sugar tax liability payable on these sugar sweetened drinks and free distribution would leave the exchequer out of pocket ,or is it envisaged that publicans should meet the tax liabilities for these drinks or do you intend to issue a list of conforming non sugar sweetened drinks that will qualify for this proposed proposition of free distribution of drinks to qualifying designated drivers .
Regards .
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Erm I'd say your on a watch list by now.
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You got to ask .I wrote to the Taoiseach to ask .
Dear Leo .
I am somewhat perplexed and confused with the soundbites coming from the Committee set up to look into the proposal to amend the 8th amendment to the constitution .In soundbites it has been suggested/proposed that abortion should be made available if a girl becomes pregnant as a result of Rape .
Now Leo here is my dilemma .Rape is a crime so will it be necessary for the girl to go to the Gards make a formal complaint and await the outcome prosecution and conviction of the offender to legitimize her contention that she was Raped or can she just make a deceleration that will have no substance in law other than an allegation to access an abortion .
Regards .
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Dropping a note to Murph .
Whats the story Murph
When are this government going to stop lying to the people about Social Housing .You and I know its all a bottle of Smoke .Listening to some of the left wing Pinkoes calling housing as a right is laughable .Do they not know like the movie Field of Dreams build it and they will come .The real reason that there will never ever be a National government funded house building project is because under EU law if the Government build them then EVERY European Union Citizen is entitled to apply for them .As we are giving away Irish Passports like Free Hailo taxi vouchers if we ever made housing a right for Irish Citizens we would be bankrupted overnight again .
There is a solution its simple .
Regards .
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How much are you charging for the solution John?