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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: john m on October 19, 2017, 11:34:28 am

Title: Just a rumor
Post by: john m on October 19, 2017, 11:34:28 am
There is a rumor doing the rounds that the free 10 minutes car park time at the airport is to be discontinued .Cannot confirm if this is true yet .
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 19, 2017, 11:51:33 am
Standard practice in every car park in the world.You have ten minutes to find a spot or get out.Hardly a concession for taxis.Shite rumour.
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Shallowhal on October 19, 2017, 12:16:07 pm
Did ye hear that in Rumours?
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Jack Meoff on October 19, 2017, 12:22:56 pm
“Rumour has it”
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Vikkiz on October 19, 2017, 01:04:11 pm
He read it on the tinternet so it must be true  rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: john m on October 19, 2017, 01:45:12 pm
Vicci whats the story with paying with card can you do it at the barrier or do you need to go to the pay station .
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Vikkiz on October 19, 2017, 01:47:12 pm
Vicci whats the story with paying with card can you do it at the barrier or do you need to go to the pay station .
As far as I know, you can. Process directly to the exit, insert ticket and then card, if required
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 19, 2017, 07:22:28 pm
Erm ya was right..even a broken clock is correct twice a day...Never got anyone from the car park anyway so no loss.Much easier to drive along where the Kesh lads park at T1.

How were lads abusing the system anyway?
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Vikkiz on October 19, 2017, 07:26:09 pm
Never got anyone from the car park anyway so no loss.Much easier to drive along where the Kesh lads park at T1.

How were lads abusing the system anyway?

 rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 19, 2017, 07:29:56 pm
What happened?was it jammed with taxis or something?

Hi Handsome,

Dublin Airport Update: Due to the abuse of parking privileges at Dublin airport short term carparks, the DAA have removed the free pick up time for Taxi drivers.

Normal car parking fees will now apply. When using the car parks please ensure that you are parked in a designated spot and not obstructing traffic.

It is Illegal for Taxis to Pick up on any Airport Roads even if this is a prearranged collection.

Thank you for your cooperation.
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: john m on October 19, 2017, 10:28:56 pm
Try this on for size .This has been engineered to get taxies excluded ,next step the dispatchers now go to the competition authority and protest that they are excluded by means of a minimum 3 euro charge from competing for work with the kesh .Although the keshies pay a fee they do not pay for access to the work only as they also recieve free parking and canteen and toilet facilities for their fees .These extra services confirm an unfair trading advantage on kesh members over other licenced taxies if the competition authority rule against the DAA then they might open the port up to all drivers on a PPJ .This looks like a very clever move by somebody possibly even the DAA to get the competition authority to free them up to charge per job or by dispatchers to get full access for their aligned drivers ......Watch this unfold .
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Wingnut on October 20, 2017, 12:46:59 am
So how much will it cost now to enter and exit the surface carpark in less than 5 minutes?
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Belker on October 20, 2017, 10:21:11 am
How were lads abusing the system anyway?

I was in Kerry airport a few weeks back, you have to enter the small car-park to get next to the terminal, I was given a ticket with 15 minutes free waiting time, with no sign of my customer coming out I left after 13 minutes and then re-entered with a new ticket.
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: john m on October 21, 2017, 02:57:33 pm
Is this where we are heading .........http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41706992 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41706992)
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Shallowhal on October 21, 2017, 03:11:10 pm
Is this where we are heading .........[url]http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41706992[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41706992[/url])
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So pick up and luggage charges are done away with at Dublin airport so DAA can introduce drop off charges....that will be added to the fare anyway....the public and the NTA will love that!!
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 21, 2017, 05:50:36 pm
Leave them at the roundabout for free.
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: john m on October 21, 2017, 09:53:30 pm
Councillors who enjoy lentilsoup will say by introducing a pick up or drop off charge at the airport they are encouraging travellers to use alternative transport like busses or taxies ,Councillor who likes bikes said by introducing the charge we hope to reduce traffic traveling to and from the airport this should reduce congestion on the 50 .
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Belker on October 22, 2017, 08:32:55 am
"London Stansted is currently the most expensive airport in the UK to drop passengers at the terminal, the RAC said - with prices jumping by 50p to £3.50 for 10 minutes in the last year.
Liverpool's John Lennon airport, the second most expensive, raised drop-off fees by 50% - from £2 for 20 minutes to £3 for 20 minutes, while Birmingham doubled the cost, raising prices from £1 to £2 for 10 minutes."


Apologies in advance fer being Thick, but how can you charge pax fer DROPPING them at the terminal ?
And what's with the Ten or Twenty minutes thing ?

I know I'm wrong on this, but can someone please explain 'Drop-off' fee's to me ?
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: john m on October 22, 2017, 11:51:14 am
Those airports have a barrier like the old toll roads you throw in coin or have a tag and you pay to enter the airport complex a bit like a congestion charge. If you leave within the time frame you do not have to top up with an exit fee .Most Airports are private property they charge Airplanes to drop off and pick up passengers so charging vehicles for the same privileged seems like good business .It is another way of reducing congestion at the airport by discouraging travellers from driving when there is other transport available like bus and rail .I know this article was about British airports but we usually follow .I posted earlier in this tread that I think the removal of the free 10 minutes in the carpark for taxies was engineered and some of the Dispatchers will now go to the competition authority as they are being forced to pay a charge that the Kesh drivers do not have to pay to pick up work .Although the lads in the Kesh pay an annual fee they get toilet ,canteen and parking for that fee unlike other taxi drivers who get nothing for their parking fee this might constitute an unfair trading advantage and be uncompedative practice .

 I would not be surprised if the DAA actually created this in the run up to christmas when there will be peak demand for taxies in the hope that the Competition Authority rule against them and they can use that ruling to open up access to all taxies and then impose a drop off or pick up fee or both to create more revenue .The environmental impact of empty taxies returning from the airport causes huge congestion and emissions makes absolutely no sense .If we had a proper representative body they would be looking for all drivers to have access to the airport but they are more interested in keeping it a closed shop for the chosen few .Be interesting to see if there is an alternate motive for removing the free time or if the Unions will take it up with the DAA ...I somehow doubt it .
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Belker on October 22, 2017, 12:15:51 pm
Those airports have a barrier like the old toll roads you throw in coin or have a tag and you pay to enter the airport complex a bit like a congestion charge. If you leave within the time frame you do not have to top up with an exit fee .

That helps, but dosen't fully answer my question ?
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 22, 2017, 12:28:53 pm
How many cabs were in the car park blocking up the place?I'd say it comes down to losing revenue from lost parking spaces.Theyd have spotted the revenue reduction on the computer.Let mytaxi buy some space if they want it.
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: john m on October 22, 2017, 12:37:14 pm
How many cabs were in the car park blocking up the place?I'd say it comes down to losing revenue from lost parking spaces.Theyd have spotted the revenue reduction on the computer.Let mytaxi buy some space if they want it.

Its not just my taxi who are effected  all the Dispatchers who pick up their customers are effected .You could be right that they spotted revenue was down but now they have identified a revenue stream why would they push them into the car park where other passengers want to be  it would be easier to open another Kesh for Dispatchers .It just looks ropey that the DAA would do this unless they have something in mind .I dont suppose the Reps or Unions will put a picket on the port in support of drivers .
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: john m on October 22, 2017, 06:29:17 pm
Picking up me hen later from the port Ihave been told the 10 minutes free time is still in place .I posted there seems to be something not right about this .Has DAA issued any statement or is this only coming from the dispatchers .
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 22, 2017, 06:40:32 pm
The text I got from Mytaxi used my surname which I thought was odd because they always use my first name only.Maybe someone acting the bollox.
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 22, 2017, 07:10:55 pm
I got the same text, same format (surname included)... seems genuine to me, probably just written by a more formal clerk.
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: john m on October 22, 2017, 07:57:33 pm
Rodent do you not find it strange all drivers had unfettered access to pick ups kesh drivers paid for canteen and toilet facilities and car parking but could claim to have no advantage when picking up but now that non kesh drivers have to pay for access to the carpark could it be claimed that the kesh have an unfair trading advantage and might the competition authority be concerned .I know some of the apps would like access to the port and the DAA might like to rely on the competition authority to end the present arrangement and then introduce a pay per pickup charge for all taxies .
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Shallowhal on October 22, 2017, 09:23:49 pm
It'll be chaos i tells ye!!
Title: Re: Just a rumor
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 23, 2017, 02:50:45 pm
The first driver to be asked for money should just block the exit, like what the crechies do when discommoded. You won't get anywhere with DAA by being tactful. Look at the calibre of villains that hold DAA taxi permits, convicted thieves and drug dealers shielded by their unions.