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Title: For Ken
Post by: john m on April 05, 2018, 11:20:19 pm
Paddy the pretender is letting on he is betting .They have a market on Champion Irish NationalHunt trainer Gordon Elliot is 4/7 he is nearly half a million ahead with only punchestown to come The big prioze money is in the Punchestown Gold Cup Elliot has the better staying chasers so should take a fair bit of the prize monet if he dosent win .I price this market 1/10 Elliot 4/1 Mullins if you can gat on @ 4/7 its money for old rope
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: Belker on April 06, 2018, 10:00:39 am
But ya can't get on !
Remember I tried that last year with the 6 ton to win 4 on the 2018 election.

Ya might get a few 35 to win 20's on if you wear out a birra shoe-leather,
hardly worth your while though.
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: john m on April 07, 2018, 12:11:18 pm
Bahrain Grand Prix .News just breaking that Hamilton changed a gearbox so gets a 5 place penelty on the start .He hasent topped any of the practice sessions so is no value @5/2 Vettel @6/4 looks massively overpriced he should be on pole and gone before Hamilton gets going .
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: Belker on April 08, 2018, 05:31:38 am
I just had a peep at the Masters betting, definately no value in the Two leaders,
the one that stood out fer me was Henrik Stenson @ 33/1.
He is a long time journeyman and he will be in the Third last pairing, so there will
be no big pressure on him, IF he can post a 10 or 11 under total then he might
be able to win it from the clubhouse.  33 Fivers is a sporting wager !

https://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-masters/2018-us-masters/winner (https://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-masters/2018-us-masters/winner)
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: john m on April 08, 2018, 11:02:08 am
Chelsea are one of the most over rated teams in the League their recent formwould put them in the bottom three .West Ham @11/1 are overpriced .Its a derby game so handbags plenty of free kicks possible sendings off absolutely no value in Chelsea .Took your advice on Stenson
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: Belker on April 09, 2018, 05:02:51 am
Took your advice on Stenson

 oops
I'll buy ya a Pint next January !! 
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: Belker on April 26, 2018, 03:56:59 am
Paddy the pretender is letting on he is betting .They have a market on Champion Irish NationalHunt trainer Gordon Elliot is 4/7 he is nearly half a million ahead with only punchestown to come The big prioze money is in the Punchestown Gold Cup Elliot has the better staying chasers so should take a fair bit of the prize monet if he dosent win .I price this market 1/10 Elliot 4/1 Mullins if you can gat on @ 4/7 its money for old rope

Jaysus John M, you could stop a Fookin Clock !

"Willie Mullins turned the tables on Gordon Elliott in spectacular fashion at Punchestown today and is now the red-hot favourite to claim a 12th Irish trainers' championship after an incredible six-timer."

https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/other/willie-mullins-roars-to-the-front-in-trainers-championship-race-839278.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/other/willie-mullins-roars-to-the-front-in-trainers-championship-race-839278.html)
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: Belker on April 27, 2018, 11:06:45 pm
"The clock stopped never to go again......"

27 Apr 2018 18:06
"Willie Mullins will officially be crowned Ireland's champion jumps trainer for a 12th time on Saturday after his placed finishers in the Punchestown Champion Hurdle gave him an unassailable lead in this year's thrilling title race."
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: markmiwurdz on April 28, 2018, 11:02:15 am
 rofl rofl ^^
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: john m on April 28, 2018, 01:26:19 pm
Paddy the pretender is letting on he is betting .They have a market on Champion Irish NationalHunt trainer Gordon Elliot is 4/7 he is nearly half a million ahead with only punchestown to come The big prioze money is in the Punchestown Gold Cup Elliot has the better staying chasers so should take a fair bit of the prize monet if he dosent win .I price this market 1/10 Elliot 4/1 Mullins if you can gat on @ 4/7 its money for old rope

Jaysus John M, you could stop a Fookin Clock !

"Willie Mullins turned the tables on Gordon Elliott in spectacular fashion at Punchestown today and is now the red-hot favourite to claim a 12th Irish trainers' championship after an incredible six-timer."

https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/other/willie-mullins-roars-to-the-front-in-trainers-championship-race-839278.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/other/willie-mullins-roars-to-the-front-in-trainers-championship-race-839278.html)

Only talking to the Rodent on Thursday  .Powers wouldnt lay me so I didnt bet .Had 100 on Mullins Wednesday Morning when I saw the Gold Cup Field.Mullins was  @11/10 Mullins to be champion he then had a 5 timer. Powers paid out Thursday Morning .Shows you something about Mullins and Gordon .Mullins is all about Mullins you can see that by how many horses he ran after a hard season Elliott put his good horses out to Grass .Probably explains what O Leary saw when he removed his horses .
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: markmiwurdz on April 29, 2018, 10:19:26 am
O'Leary moved his horses from Mullins over money,Mullins upped his fees for training to everyone and O'Leary refused to pay.
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: Belker on April 29, 2018, 10:35:16 am
O'Leary moved his horses from Mullins over money,Mullins upped his fees for training to everyone and O'Leary refused to pay.

That's it in a nutshell !
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: john m on April 29, 2018, 06:08:33 pm
O'Leary moved his horses from Mullins over money,Mullins upped his fees for training to everyone and O'Leary refused to pay.

That's it in a nutshell !

Not sure about that Ken ,he breaks a lot of good horses .A lot of his good bumper horsers never train on.Compare him to somebody like Nicky Henderson who seems to Keep horses healthy .I dont think money would of been the Prime motive for O Leary more a clash of Egoes .Still Paddy wouldnt take me money I thought Elliott had it in the bag .
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: markmiwurdz on April 29, 2018, 07:01:41 pm
O'Leary moved his horses from Mullins over money,Mullins upped his fees for training to everyone and O'Leary refused to pay.

That's it in a nutshell !

Not sure about that Ken ,he breaks a lot of good horses .A lot of his good bumper horsers never train on.Compare him to somebody like Nicky Henderson who seems to Keep horses healthy .I dont think money would of been the Prime motive for O Leary more a clash of Egoes .Still Paddy wouldnt take me money I thought Elliott had it in the bag .

It's true John,believe me.
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 30, 2018, 01:00:23 pm
There could be merit in both accounts. I got the impression that O'Leary wasn't overly happy with Mullins' pandering to the Riccis.
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: john m on April 30, 2018, 01:05:54 pm
There could be merit in both accounts. I got the impression that O'Leary wasn't overly happy with Mullins' pandering to the Riccis.

That would be my thinking Rodent ,how many winners did Mullins train for O Leary @ Cheltenham ?
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: markmiwurdz on April 30, 2018, 08:44:42 pm
https://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/willie-mullins-says-split-with-michael-oleary-purely-over-money-35088235.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/willie-mullins-says-split-with-michael-oleary-purely-over-money-35088235.html)


Champion horse trainer Willie Mullins doesn't see either side backing down in the disagreement which saw Michael O'Leary withdraw 60 of his horses from Mullins' stable.

It emerged yesterday that the country's most successful trainer and the leading owner of jump horses have gone their separate ways after an enormously successful relationship.

A decision by Mr Mullins to increase his fees by 10pc drove a wedge between him and the Ryanair chief executive's Gigginstown House Stud as Mr O'Leary refused to pay.

Mr O'Leary has kept quiet about the split. But a statement issued through Ryanair thanked Mr Mullins and his team at Closutton for the grade-one races they won together over seven years.

"We have agreed - with considerable regret - to move the Gigginstown horses to alternative trainers for the coming 2016/17 season," it said.

Read more: Willie Mullins to lose 'around 60 horses' after splitting with Gigginstown House Stud over fee dispute
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: john m on April 30, 2018, 09:39:54 pm
A lot of cases of ego driven owners .Daniel Wildenstein took his horses off Champion trainer Peter Walwyn in the 70S Sheik Mohammed took his horses off Champion Trainer Henry Cecil in the 80s  Potts took their horses off De Broomhead the same time as OLeary moved his .The paper excuse was costs but costs wouldnt bother O Leary the Billionaire .Playing second fiddle to Ricci and others and Ruby Not riding his horses must of pisses Mick off .As I said how many winners did Mullins train for O Leary @ Cheltenham ?
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: markmiwurdz on April 30, 2018, 10:25:31 pm
.Playing second fiddle to Ricci and others and Ruby Not riding his horses must of pisses Mick off

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Your probably right that that was grating on MOL's tits,only the 2 men know the full real truth...
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: Belker on May 01, 2018, 08:30:04 pm
O'Leary moved his horses from Mullins over money,Mullins upped his fees for training to everyone and O'Leary refused to pay.

That's it in a nutshell !

Not sure about that Ken ,he breaks a lot of good horses .A lot of his good bumper horsers never train on.Compare him to somebody like Nicky Henderson who seems to Keep horses healthy .I dont think money would of been the Prime motive for O Leary more a clash of Egoes .Still Paddy wouldnt take me money I thought Elliott had it in the bag .

It's true John,believe me.

There might well have been a clash of Ego's or other events in the background,
but I'm totally with Marky on this issue. O Leary is a miserable sod !
Title: Re: For Ken
Post by: Belker on May 01, 2018, 08:44:14 pm
A lot of cases of ego driven owners .Daniel Wildenstein took his horses off Champion trainer Peter Walwyn in the 70S Sheik Mohammed took his horses off Champion Trainer Henry Cecil in the 80s  Potts took their horses off De Broomhead the same time as OLeary moved his .The paper excuse was costs but costs wouldnt bother O Leary the Billionaire .Playing second fiddle to Ricci and others and Ruby Not riding his horses must of pisses Mick off .As I said how many winners did Mullins train for O Leary @ Cheltenham ?

'Henry Cecil' (RIP), his name should only be whispered and not spoken, probably the best man ever to turn out a horse on the big day.
Barney Curley was probably the better horseman, but he just couldn't keep his Fingers out of the Till !