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Title: UBER
Post by: dalymount on June 25, 2018, 01:18:29 pm
I see Uber today began their challenge to the licence refusal in London. I wonder if theu ate successful,will this have implications for our industry here,in the event of time .?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Octavia1 on June 25, 2018, 01:37:10 pm
They losin 5 billion a year.... If i had money..... Ide be puttin me money into sumtin else.... ....
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 25, 2018, 02:41:59 pm
You share a load of similar ideas to the Erm Daly,.just saying.Private hire is allowed in the UK.Just Uber hacks no ridesharing nonsense allowed.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 25, 2018, 06:17:31 pm
No.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Belker on June 26, 2018, 08:03:20 am
I see Uber today began their challenge to the licence refusal in London. I wonder if theu ate successful,will this have implications for our industry here,in the event of time .?

IMO Not in the near future, uber have knocked on our door and been refused entry, they will knock again another day and they will keep knocking until they get in, but hopefully by then we will all be pushing up daiseys !

If London hold their ground on the uber licence refusal, then it would be helpful to our future plight, but not really all that important.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: The Liffey Lip on June 26, 2018, 12:02:43 pm
Did Noonan pull out his money from the Limerick base yet? If he didn't, then watch out for unidentified flying hybrids.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: john m on June 26, 2018, 01:30:21 pm
As soon as the much trumpeted rural booze bus fails .Minister for motoring willgive it the go ahead in rural backwaters
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 26, 2018, 01:47:51 pm
Dunno about that.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: john m on June 26, 2018, 02:00:52 pm
Booze bus is designed to fail .Rideshare would cost the government nothing .Ross said he would not allow UNLICENCED DRIVERS .Just issue a Rideshare Drivers Licence and app and away you go.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 26, 2018, 02:01:24 pm
It already has the go-ahead. However, unlike mytaxi it has opted not to employ hackneys/minicabs in Ireland to date, probably not enough of them to bother.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 26, 2018, 07:57:15 pm
https://www.ft.com/content/61743db2-795e-11e8-8e67-1e1a0846c475 (https://www.ft.com/content/61743db2-795e-11e8-8e67-1e1a0846c475)

Uber wins back London licence

App to continue operating in largest European market ahead of IPO

Aliya Ram and Shannon Bond

Uber has won back its London licence in a major court victory that will allow the app to continue operating in its largest European market ahead of an initial public offering next year.

British judge Emma Arbuthnot granted Uber a 15-month licence on Tuesday with the caveat that it follow a set of rules agreed with London’s transport authority.

“Inevitably such a young business has suffered a number of growing pains that hasn’t been helped by the gung-ho approach [of managers],” she said. “I have given particular weight to the conditions agreed between the parties. Taking into account the new governance arrangements I find that while Uber was not a fit and proper person when the decision was taken and the months after it is now a fit and proper person.”

Uber had its licence revoked by TfL last September after it was accused of being “not a fit and proper” operator because of public safety concerns and its attitude to regulators.

The decision follows a high-stakes court battle in which Uber argued it had “grown up” following the ousting of founder Travis Kalanick as chief executive at the end of last summer. Thomas de la Mare, a lawyer representing Uber, admitted that the company “did some things in hindsight that are pretty stupid to be frank.”

Uber has agreed to a slew of new conditions with TfL in addition to a series of changes made since the start of the year, including proactive reporting of violent incidents to the police. The app has agreed to be audited after six months and said it will not employ senior managers who were aware of the Greyball software used to avoid regulatory scrutiny.

Tom Elvidge, promoted to be the ride-hailing app’s general manager for the UK and Ireland in the wake of its licence ban, argued that Uber had made a “fundamental change” to its management style and overhauled its UK leadership.

Mr Elvidge’s predecessor, Jo Bertram, who was singled out for criticism by TfL, left the company last October. She has since joined O2 the UK arm of Telefónica, the Spanish telecoms company.

Uber’s London license case, which lasted two days, was watched closely for signs that a regulatory backlash has eased as the app attempts to shake off its reputation for a bullying culture under its new chief executive, Dara Khosrowshahi, who replaced Mr Kalanick in August.

The case had come to symbolise the clash between European regulators and disruptive US technology companies that have been accused of riding roughshod over traditional industry categories and regulations.

Within weeks of his appointment, Mr Khosrowshahi flew to the UK to meet TfL commissioner Mike Brown. After initially saying he was “disappointed” by London’s decision, Mr Khosrowshahi has apologised for past mistakes.

Helen Chapman, licensing director for TfL, said in a witness statement that “it is difficult for TfL to assess Uber London Limited’s changes to its corporate culture and approach, because they will take time to become embedded in the business.”

London is Uber’s biggest European market with over 3.6m users and around 45,000 drivers. As Uber has pulled back from money-losing markets including south-east Asia, its biggest backer, SoftBank, has urged the company to focus on core markets including the US and Europe.

Uber is currently banned, restricted or forced to withdraw certain services such as its peer-to-peer technology UberPOP from countries including Spain, Denmark, Germany, Italy, Finland, the Northern Territory of Australia, Japan, Hungary and Bulgaria.

The app also faces tougher government oversight in the EU following a decision from the European Court of Justice last November that it should be regulated like a traditional taxi company instead of a technology group. It is also under government investigation over its business practices in the US.

Tuesday’s decision marks a significant victory for Mr Khosrowshahi, who has made London a front line in his attempt to clean up the company’s image and prove to regulators it can operate responsibly. The company is also planning to relaunch in Finland after new regulations come into effect next month.

The legal battles are not over for Uber in the UK, however. In November the app lost a key tribunal ruling after it was told it must treat drivers as “workers” entitled to the minimum wage and holiday pay. It is also appealing against that decision, with the next hearing scheduled for October.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Octavia1 on June 26, 2018, 09:31:44 pm
I see the judge Emma is a great friend of Cameron.... Cameron who's kids godmother was chief financial officer for Uber.....
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Octavia1 on June 26, 2018, 09:34:08 pm
http://fortune.com/2017/03/28/david-cameron-uber-lobbying/ (http://fortune.com/2017/03/28/david-cameron-uber-lobbying/)
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Octavia1 on June 26, 2018, 09:37:55 pm
Corrupt as fuk
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: dalymount on June 27, 2018, 06:20:10 am
Back to my original question then, could this have implications for us ?  Could the NTA ALSO change its mind ,and let them in ?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Belker on June 27, 2018, 08:23:50 am
The uber London licence, is that a Ride-share/uber-pop licence or a taxi only licence ?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 27, 2018, 08:37:39 am
Uber are using Hacks and possibly limos in the Uk.They have never ever been allowed any thing like Uber pop. They're playing by the rules so should have their licence back.No different than Mytaxi.

We've all had brits in the car saying they've used Uber and it's great. Some of them think it's a bloke in his private car when in fact it's an Uber Hackney. How would they know the difference?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Belker on June 27, 2018, 08:54:30 am
Uber are using Hacks and possibly limos in the Uk.They have never ever been allowed any thing like Uber pop.They're playing by the rules so should have their licence back.No different than Mytaxi.

Thanks MFH, so basically uber there is the same as uber here in Dublin, licencened PSV drivers only.

uber do not play by rules, they constraint to rules when there is no other cheaper option left available.
Do you think they would have changed their ways on their own if'n TFL hadn't banned them ?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: dalymount on June 27, 2018, 08:57:37 am
I wonder will TTNH take to the streets to protect their members livlehoods if  the NTA  ever give the green light to UBER  here ?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Belker on June 27, 2018, 09:01:28 am
Back to my original question then, could this have implications for us ?  Could the NTA ALSO change its mind ,and let them in ?

No, (after MFH's clarification) uber now has retained the same powers in London that it has in Dublin presently,
licenced PSV drivers only, still No Ride-share/Uber-pop allowed. Very little has changed fer us.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 27, 2018, 09:09:00 am
All they've done is put in a proper disciplinary procedure for their drivers. If one of the drivers had a serious complaint against them they weren't going to the cops or removing them from the app.

AFAIK a girl got sexually assaulted and they didn't investigate it properly which may have led to other assaults.

I posted before a few of their drivers have been involved in terror attacks in the UK and US so they may not have been cooperating fully with the police as much as they should.They have 40000 drivers in the UK of which many are Muslims so there are bound to be some bad apples.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Belker on June 27, 2018, 09:09:41 am
I wonder will TTNH take to the streets to protect their members livlehoods if  the NTA  ever give the green light to UBER  here ?

I have never in my life ever stood on a Picket line or ever engaged in an Anti-anything protest or march, but if'n uber Ride-share/Uber-pop get the green light here then I will take to the streets because it will mean the end of all full-time taxi drivers career's.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: dalymount on June 27, 2018, 09:16:07 am
Im afraid im a perpetual protester,anti estabblishment,fukker who would protest just for the hell of it
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: The Liffey Lip on June 27, 2018, 10:13:23 am
Nothing will happen here for some time Dalyer...don't be fretting. The long game might throw up a few surprises. For the record, John M is the man I'd be listening to....unless he tells you to stick the house on Uber being eventually ratified by the NTA...if he does, ignore it.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 27, 2018, 10:18:13 am
Slowly but surely Mytaxi are recruiting limos as fancy hacks and cheating the geography exam while our less informed colleagues are worried about Uber.We deserve everything coming to us for taking our eyes off the ball.Erm talks straight from the anus.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: The Liffey Lip on June 27, 2018, 10:23:51 am
Mightn't be as good as you think, MFH.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 27, 2018, 10:29:12 am
I just call things as they are instead of worrying about how bad things could be.Life is too short.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: dalymount on June 27, 2018, 11:30:24 am
Im an idiot I know,but if I thought ride share wouldput Ebbs,Kelly,Kearns,etc etc out of business I would actually welcome it.thats how strong my hatred for these arrogant bastards is ,who actually believe that they run the industry,and there is no place for independents
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 27, 2018, 11:34:56 am
Rideshare puts taxi drivers out of business.Taxi apps are moving in on the cab companies but unfortunately they're run by the same dicks who used to work for cab companies so expect more of the same.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: dalymount on June 27, 2018, 12:03:56 pm
mfH I have no desire to see drivers out of business,but without wishing to rake over all ground,it just proves what I have always said,they cannot operate without us,but we can operate without them.yet I find it incomprehensible why drivers allow those scumbags to call the shots
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 27, 2018, 01:46:27 pm
Some people dont like the idea of being on their own.All the lads signing up for stickers on their vehicles are former radio company slaves.The type of blokes who work loads a hours thinking they're smarter than everyone else giving discounts and buying new cars all the time. Kinda pretending they like the freedom of self employment while behaving like someones employee by working more hours than a bloke with a regular job.Don't understand it meself.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: U Wha on June 27, 2018, 01:52:49 pm
Uber are using Hacks and possibly limos in the Uk.They have never ever been allowed any thing like Uber pop. They're playing by the rules so should have their licence back.No different than Mytaxi.

We've all had brits in the car saying they've used Uber and it's great. Some of them think it's a bloke in his private car when in fact it's an Uber Hackney. How would they know the difference?

Not disagreeing with what you said, just clarifying that in the UK a Hackney is what we call a Taxi over here as in street hail or rank and are usually the black cab or a variation. No saloon cars allowed as far as I know. 

What we call Hackneys here, they call  'Private Hire Vehicles'. They allow advertising on private hire but vehicles must have a sticker on the door that states it is private hire only and must be pre-booked.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: U Wha on June 27, 2018, 02:00:52 pm
Slowly but surely Mytaxi are recruiting limos as fancy hacks and cheating the geography exam while our less informed colleagues are worried about Uber.We deserve everything coming to us for taking our eyes off the ball.Erm talks straight from the anus.

I was heading home last week and stopped into topaz in Kilmacanoque. I was chatting to a lad driving a merc limo. 
I asked him how business was and did he know much about mytaxi and the work for hackneys and limo's. He said he didn't work with them as he had enough of his own work. He was a small family operator in Bray with his Limo, 7 seater taxi and a minibus.
He did say that mytaxi and uber had caused him concern as his insurers now asked what he was using his limousine for and his policy states he is not covered in the limo for immediate hire. That could scupper the mytaxi/uber palns for limos.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 27, 2018, 02:09:26 pm
I believe there is a taxi company in Bray which uses mostly limos as hacks doing set fares.The funny part is taxi drivers seem to think limos are our colleagues as drivers.Whats next will we go on strike with the bus drivers?Maybe the next luas strike we could beef up the picket lines?

There's a taxi driver facebook page which has gone private recently where long term taxi men were encouraging new entrants to put a limo on the road to circumvent the wheelchair regulations.What a bunch of gobshites.They dont realise a few hundred limos every year starts to add up and before long they'll outnumber saloon taxis competing for our work on the apps.Keep in mind all you need is an old Skoda superb to get a limo licence.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: dalymount on June 27, 2018, 03:05:07 pm
Sometimes I have to laugh.constantly there are posts,and new threads,about what mytaxi are doung,about what cab companies are doing,who is milking who,which company is milking the orher,etc etc will taxi drivers NEVER EVER come to the realisation that NONE of it matters.YOU are the players in this game,and without NONE of them can operate.I just cannot understand why you wont drop the fukking lot of them cab companies,apps, etc and TAKE BACK CONTROL OF YOUR INDUSTRY.YOU DONT FUKKING NEED ANY OF THEM
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 27, 2018, 03:57:58 pm
Back to my original question then, could this have implications for us ?  Could the NTA ALSO change its mind ,and let them in ?

No. NTA has already let them in but they have chosen not to use hackneys here, so far. Others, like mytaxi, do use hackneys in Ireland.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 27, 2018, 04:07:41 pm
Do you think they would have changed their ways on their own if'n TFL hadn't banned them ?

Changing their ways is merely adding a little window dressing to allow TfL save face while climbing down. In reality, all that has been exposed is how much influence The Carlyle Group (Addison Lee) has. No doubt the most significant change is the small change in brown envelopes.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: The Liffey Lip on June 27, 2018, 04:09:26 pm
Sometimes I have to laugh.constantly there are posts,and new threads,about what mytaxi are doung,about what cab companies are doing,who is milking who,which company is milking the orher,etc etc will taxi drivers NEVER EVER come to the realisation that NONE of it matters.YOU are the players in this game,and without NONE of them can operate.I just cannot understand why you wont drop the fukking lot of them cab companies,apps, etc and TAKE BACK CONTROL OF YOUR INDUSTRY.YOU DONT FUKKING NEED ANY OF THEM

I feel a march is in the offing....forget it and resign yourself to the fat-cunt principle/Peter Principle.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: dalymount on June 27, 2018, 09:16:38 pm
Can anyone explain this.I have been up in inishowen in Donegal for the past couple of days,and nearly all the taxis I seen are northern yelliw number plates,no door decals,foyle cabs,city cabs,etc how can they be iperating in the republic ? I can understand one or two,could have got fares across the border,but not the amount ive seen
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: U Wha on June 27, 2018, 11:38:45 pm
I believe there is a taxi company in Bray which uses mostly limos as hacks doing set fares.The funny part is taxi drivers seem to think limos are our colleagues as drivers.Whats next will we go on strike with the bus drivers?Maybe the next luas strike we could beef up the picket lines?

There's a taxi driver facebook page which has gone private recently where long term taxi men were encouraging new entrants to put a limo on the road to circumvent the wheelchair regulations.What a bunch of gobshites.They dont realise a few hundred limos every year starts to add up and before long they'll outnumber saloon taxis competing for our work on the apps.Keep in mind all you need is an old Skoda superb to get a limo licence.

Sounds like the insurance  companies are dealing with the limo's by not allowing immediate hire in their policies
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on June 28, 2018, 12:22:00 am
Do you think they would have changed their ways on their own if'n TFL hadn't banned them ?

Changing their ways is merely adding a little window dressing to allow TfL save face while climbing down. In reality, all that has been exposed is how much influence The Carlyle Group (Addison Lee) has. No doubt the most significant change is the small change in brown envelopes.


It will be allowed here eventually when the pressure is on and envelopes are passed
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 28, 2018, 12:16:18 pm
Get with the programme, TD42. It's already allowed here. mytaxi are doing it, we just don't have enough hackneys/minicabs for anyone to give a fuck.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Belker on June 28, 2018, 12:47:04 pm
Can anyone explain this.I have been up in inishowen in Donegal for the past couple of days,and nearly all the taxis I seen are northern yelliw number plates,no door decals,foyle cabs,city cabs,etc how can they be iperating in the republic ? I can understand one or two,could have got fares across the border,but not the amount ive seen

Probably because the NTA have no jurisdiction on Northern Ireland cabs
and the Northern Ireland equivalent of the NTA have no jurisdiction within the republic, maybe ??

Ya should have sat in to one and asked him !
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: dalymount on June 28, 2018, 02:03:16 pm
Ah I was just curious how they could operate in another jurstriction thats all
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 28, 2018, 02:39:21 pm
Do they accept Euros?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: dalymount on June 28, 2018, 04:10:31 pm
Dunno
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on June 29, 2018, 10:09:15 am
Get with the programme, TD42. It's already allowed here. mytaxi are doing it, we just don't have enough hackneys/minicabs for anyone to give a fuck.



Ride share is not here
That's the worry ordinary people no psv driving people around
That's the big picture and our downfall
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 29, 2018, 12:01:36 pm
Rideshare isn't in London either so it won't get here by following London, will it?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on June 29, 2018, 08:43:52 pm
Rideshare isn't in London either so it won't get here by following London, will it?

No but it's their aim here is my point
Ubers goal here is ride share
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Vikkiz on June 30, 2018, 09:07:36 am
Uber’s aim is to stop hemorrhaging money. The founder is gone and so is the idealology of taxis are evil.

He obviously got fucked out of a fare few over the years.

Let’s try understand this logic.

I’m going to create a company that will decimate a particular industry and make loadsa money out of it but create loadsa misery for everyone that uses it
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 30, 2018, 11:15:34 am
There's probably a good case for Rideshare in rural areas. Maybe a local are hackney or something like that might work?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Bob Shillin on July 02, 2018, 03:54:54 pm
Maybe it's time to look again at an Uber-style taxi system.

Last week, London agreed to give Uber a licence. It means quicker pickups at a lower cost.

In Ireland, the company can't operate a similar system. But how long will that last?

Dublin badly needs something that works more efficiently than our present setup. In particular, the country's capital - which is in the midst of an economic boom - needs a system that can respond to predictable surges in demand.

At present, what we have just isn't fit for purpose.

In Dublin, it is now the norm for a business person to wait 45 minutes or an hour for a taxi. If it rains - unlikely in Ireland, I know - it's even worse.

Anyone reading this who has attended a conference or business event in the capital in recent months will know what I'm talking about. It's often a lottery for overseas business travellers as to whether they will get a taxi back to the airport in time.

This isn't the fault of individual taxi drivers, or even the companies. The legal system governing taxis simply isn't keeping up with the needs of the rest of society.

Last week, I spent some time in Seattle, a city that is booming in a similar way to Dublin.

The West Coast city has many pluses and minuses. But even without a New York or London style metro service, it's always possible to get somewhere within 30 minutes.

This is because the city, like many American cities, has fessed up to the realisation that it is not going to lay down substantial public transport systems. But because it also doesn't want everyone reaching to buy their own car, it allows for hire systems such as Uber and Lyft.


These companies are essentially comprised of private-hire vehicles. From a macro planning perspective, the result is that young people, as well as business people, can travel quickly to almost anywhere else in the city for under $10 or $15.

This makes it far more affordable than taxi cabs. But critically, it is also superb at responding to spikes and troughs in demand. During bad weather or a large event, for example, more drivers are encouraged to respond to demand through fares being raised.

For me as a user, it's a minor pain to have to pay $9 instead of $7 to get to where I need to go. But it's worth it to know I'm guaranteed to get a lift within 15 or 20 minutes.

Dublin faces a similar problem to Seattle. At this point, we need to accept that we're not going to invest substantially in public transport systems to meet our growing population.

This is regrettable, but at least it's clear.

Yes, we have buses and a small handful of light rail routes (serving a few narrow slivers of the city). I'm an avid user of this infrastructure whenever possible, especially the bus (which is arguably the most efficient form of public transport available).

But when travelling to other places in the city for work-related purposes, I'll almost always plan to walk. This isn't because I'm any kind of fitness fanatic, but because it's usually quicker and always more reliable than any other option available, unless it's to an office near the 10pc of the city covered by light rail. In other words, I know for sure where I'll be within 30 or 40 minutes, instead of wondering whether my taxi will turn up within that time.

This doesn't mean that Uber's exact model is necessarily the answer.

The taxi industry's objections to Uber-style services are not without warrant. In particular, there have been problems with safety in Uber both in the US and in Europe.

But it should not be outside the ability of regulators and legislators to come up with more robust safety systems.

There is also the issue of job security and wages. The kind of competition that an Uber-style service would bring would put pressure on the upper end of a taxi driver's earnings.

As such, representatives of the industry have every right - and even a duty - to protect their livelihoods.

But some of these arguments were the same ones used more than a decade ago when taxi services were liberalised. Younger readers may not recall it, but the 1990s saw a protected system where taxi plates could be bought and sold for €100,000 because they were rare, controlled assets.

Because of this, it was normal to wait one or two hours for a taxi during busy times. It was disastrous and unsustainable.

At the time of liberalisation, taxi drivers blocked the streets in protest. Ultimately, though, the Government had to act. It had to balance the (legitimate) claims of individual taxi drivers with the needs of the rest of society.

To be fair, it's arguably not quite as bad now as it was then. But it's considerably worse than a few years ago. The maddening aspect of it is that the difficulties are for entirely logical and predictable reasons - economic growth.

Given that we clearly do not intend to meet that need with proportionately increased public transportation, we probably should start thinking about an alternative method.

That means a new tech platform that's fundamentally different from the old Hailo-style ceilings our current taxi system limits itself to.

It means acting before a new generation of young workers come to the conclusion that their parents formed years ago - that the only way to get guaranteed flexible transportation around the city is to drive yourself into work every day.


Sunday Indo Business. Adrian Weckler.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 02, 2018, 03:59:35 pm
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In Ireland, the company can't operate a similar system. But how long will that last?

Yes it can. mytaxi uses hackneys - known as PHVs or Minicabs in London. Uber has just chosen not to, probably because there isn't enough to bother with.

Another illiterate moron working for the indefuckinpendent.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Vikkiz on July 02, 2018, 04:35:14 pm
"""""This doesn't mean that Uber's exact model is necessarily the answer.""""


So he'd like Uber but not their exact model????
What the fuck do you want ya fucktard
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: SClass on July 02, 2018, 06:02:54 pm
"""""This doesn't mean that Uber's exact model is necessarily the answer.""""


So he'd like Uber but not their exact model????
What the fuck do you want ya fucktard



So a taxi operator jumps  through all the hoops to stay  compliant on the road.
What would be the point if any sham in a Toyota Prius and a smart phone can just do the same.
comparing the traffic in Seattle to the traffic in Dublin. He he.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: markmiwurdz on July 02, 2018, 06:58:45 pm
In Dublin, it is now the norm for a business person to wait 45 minutes or an hour for a taxi. If it rains - unlikely in Ireland, I know - it's even worse

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Not true,3 AM on a weekend night is the only time when there's a bit of a wait and that's only around a gig or in the Harcourt St  area,in which between the hours 3AM and 5 AM roughly 7000 people are looking for cabs at the one time in a Street where often cars aren't allowed drive down by Gardai for fear of running over a drunk pleb.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 02, 2018, 06:59:33 pm
Adrian hasn't a fukin clue...there's no way it takes 45 mins to get a cab in Dublin with the apps.He's probably comparing the shitty service offered by Lynk who the folks in the Indo seem to praise uneccesarilly.Customers have moved on to apps a long time ago.

Also people need to stop hiding down some laneway or out the back of some housing estate with their smartphones hoping a taxi might pass by.Go out to the main road you'll have a cab in minutes.Dumb people with smartphones are the problem.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: silverbullet on July 02, 2018, 07:33:45 pm
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In Ireland, the company can't operate a similar system. But how long will that last?

Yes it can. mytaxi uses hackneys - known as PHVs or Minicabs in London. Uber has just chosen not to, probably because there isn't enough to bother with.

Another illiterate moron working for the indefuckinpendent.
Weckler must have been fired from the! SBP.
Tech Reporter there. UBER have deep pockets.
Ex top civil servant John Moran is a Lobbyist for Uber too.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: silverbullet on July 02, 2018, 07:35:30 pm
https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/exdepartment-of-finance-boss-john-moran-picked-up-by-uber-34203383.html (https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/exdepartment-of-finance-boss-john-moran-picked-up-by-uber-34203383.html)
Easily bought...allegedly.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Vikkiz on July 02, 2018, 09:35:17 pm
"""""This doesn't mean that Uber's exact model is necessarily the answer.""""


So he'd like Uber but not their exact model????
What the fuck do you want ya fucktard



So a taxi operator jumps  through all the hoops to stay  compliant on the road.
What would be the point if any sham in a Toyota Prius and a smart phone can just do the same.
comparing the traffic in Seattle to the traffic in Dublin. He he.
What I’m referencing is that he wants Uber but not their exact model.

That’s like asking for a Whooper in Burger King that wasn’t flame grilled

IDIOT(not you sclass but the person that wrote the piece
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 02, 2018, 09:53:56 pm
I don't like King Fries. It's a shame one can't get McDonalds fries in Burger King or a Whopper in McDonalds - although that stuff is a rare treat for me these days on account of my chronic obesity.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on July 03, 2018, 12:57:54 am
In Dublin, it is now the norm for a business person to wait 45 minutes or an hour for a taxi. If it rains - unlikely in Ireland, I know - it's even worse

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Not true,3 AM on a weekend night is the only time when there's a bit of a wait and that's only around a gig or in the Harcourt St  area,in which between the hours 3AM and 5 AM roughly 7000 people are looking for cabs at the one time in a Street where often cars aren't allowed drive down by Gardai for fear of running over a drunk pleb.


45 mine not a hope
Uber is not the answer
The answer is take on more taxi drivers
They short 1600 they say
Dumd down the test for a bit like they just did and see who passed
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Belker on July 03, 2018, 07:46:30 am
I don't like King Fries. It's a shame one can't get McDonalds fries in Burger King or a Whopper in McDonalds - although that stuff is a rare treat for me these days on account of my chronic obesity.
I used to buy me chips in Abrakabra, then walk across the road to BurgerKing fer me Whopper.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Belker on July 03, 2018, 07:52:23 am
Rideshare isn't in London either so it won't get here by following London, will it?

No but it's their aim here is my point
Ubers goal here is ride share

The uber short-term goal here is Rideshare, I'm guessing they will get it in more than 10 years and less than 20.
The uber long-term goal is Autonomous taxies, I'm guessing they will get it in more than 20 years and less than 40.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 03, 2018, 08:23:38 am
It won't be Uber.Apple or Daimler or Toyota or Vw or any other more reputable brand will make it before them.Uber isn't trusted and just takes the attention off the rest of them as they race to beat each other killing a few hundred people along the way.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Belker on July 03, 2018, 08:33:52 am
I reckon uber maybe merged with one of the big car makers will be the Kingpins at the end of the day.
Travis Kalanik was a loose cannon who rode wild over the rules, but now he is gone and uber seem to
have settled a bit in their ways, or better put, had badly needed manners put on them !
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 03, 2018, 08:46:26 am
It's just an app.Car manufacturers with lots of history building cars are far more likely to be successful.

There was something in the paper a few weeks ago about icabbi getting bought by Renault/Nissan but nobody posted it then I forgot about it.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/irish-taxi-software-provider-icabbi-gets-lift-from-renault-1.3535928 (https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/irish-taxi-software-provider-icabbi-gets-lift-from-renault-1.3535928)

Even General Motors have a good setup.
https://youtu.be/SK_YIQ7TD8Q (https://youtu.be/SK_YIQ7TD8Q)
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Joe on July 03, 2018, 12:25:28 pm
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Title: Re: UBER
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2018, 02:41:27 pm
We need to get like the french,and block everything that fukking moves if the NTA ever agree to rideshare
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 03, 2018, 03:00:26 pm
NTA have a number of options, I guess. They could lift the temporary moratorium on the issue of saloon hackney plates to entice Uber to replicate it's London service in Dublin.

I think Google is the one to watch as far as autonomous vehicles go but, as motor manufacturers focus on selling car utilisation rather than car ownership going forward, we may see Go Car type services become more relevant in the medium term.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on July 04, 2018, 09:51:44 am
We said yes to gay marriage
We said yes to abortion
So uber is next bring us inline with Europe
The good people in Limerick demand it
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 04, 2018, 01:11:04 pm
Where, in Europe, does Uber offer Rideshare?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Vikkiz on July 05, 2018, 09:07:00 pm
https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/04/uber-relaunches-a-licensed-service-in-finland-after-taxi-law-deregulation/


Uber is not restarting its unlicensed peer-to-peer service (UberPOP) in the market.

That unlicensed driver option has essentially been outlawed in Europe after the region’s top court ruled in December that Uber is a transport service, not a platform, thereby locking its business into being regulated by existing taxi licensing regimes.

And locking Uber into lobbying city authorities to ‘modernize’ and deregulate taxi rules in its favor — such as by removing permit caps and making it easier for more people to become taxi drivers.

“In the vast majority of the European countries we have been operating under existing transportation laws for years now and were able to scale our business with licensed drivers,” an Uber spokesman told us.

Uber rideshare wont be comin, no matter how much lobbying they do
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on July 06, 2018, 12:54:41 am
Limerick council or Limerick city the home of uber Europe wanted a trial ride share in city last yr
They still lobbing for it
Don't underestimate uber
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Vikkiz on July 06, 2018, 03:12:42 am
Well if you read the piece TD42 you'd see that Uber seem tonhsve copped themselves on and as Europe said they are taxi company not tech they must abide by the regulations. If theybarent doing UberPop in other countries in Europe why would they try it IN Ireland
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 06, 2018, 12:32:59 pm
With a deregulated taxi market, why would anyone want to work for a rideshare firm. Better off getting a limo licence and hacking with mytaxi.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on July 06, 2018, 12:40:04 pm
With a deregulated taxi market, why would anyone want to work for a rideshare firm. Better off getting a limo licence and hacking with mytaxi.

All I'm saying is uber is still lobbing

https://www.lobbying.ie/organisation/1153/uber (https://www.lobbying.ie/organisation/1153/uber)
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: silverbullet on July 06, 2018, 01:59:35 pm
With a deregulated taxi market, why would anyone want to work for a rideshare firm. Better off getting a limo licence and hacking with mytaxi.

All I'm saying is uber is still lobbing

https://www.lobbying.ie/organisation/1153/uber (https://www.lobbying.ie/organisation/1153/uber)
https://amp.independent.ie/business/irish/exdepartment-of-finance-boss-john-moran-picked-up-by-uber-34203383.html (https://amp.independent.ie/business/irish/exdepartment-of-finance-boss-john-moran-picked-up-by-uber-34203383.html)
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 06, 2018, 02:08:58 pm
Mytaxi are on that lobbying register too.So far they havent lobbied for anything that would ever increase our incomes.Uber is a distraction.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: ToshaPaskey on July 07, 2018, 10:32:06 pm
Bad news for drivers
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Vikkiz on July 08, 2018, 07:10:36 pm
Bad news for drivers
Who the fuck are you and what do you want here? Waffling about English Uber and shite. Fuck off would you
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on July 08, 2018, 08:16:47 pm
No ride share yet

So do we all migrate over to them now it's safe?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: john m on July 08, 2018, 09:44:16 pm
Talking to my mate on the council .She says Uber rideshare or any other rideshare for Dublin is unlikely .Our biggest danger comes from busses .She recons that the British company that got the Dublin bus routes will look to go 24 hour and increase their routes as new housing developments come on line .She said the environment committee of DCC are not in favour of promoting any car use in the city so would oppose rideshare .
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Vikkiz on July 09, 2018, 02:29:21 am
So now they are thinking sensibly on the council. Private cars can go less places than us taxis can. Could you imagine private motorists trying to get to certain places at certain times.

Do I get an "I told yiz rideshare isn't coming"??

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Title: Re: UBER
Post by: john m on July 09, 2018, 08:44:49 am
So now they are thinking sensibly on the council. Private cars can go less places than us taxis can. Could you imagine private motorists trying to get to certain places at certain times.

Do I get an "I told yiz rideshare isn't coming"??

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Not coming to Dublin Vic dont know about rural Ireland .The other thing the good lady councillor mentioned was emissions .Ireland are due for fines of 400 million a year from the EU for not reducing emissions .Government are setting new emissions targets for transport so dont be surprised to see motor tax on diesels increase probably wont effect us but hybrid or electric must be the way to go in future .Something she told me is busses must get permission to run in built up areas after midnight toavoid noise polution ,so unlikely if they do go 24 hour that there will be to many routes allowed .
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Octavia1 on July 09, 2018, 12:04:49 pm
. Toshiba mite be a ladyboy taxi driver learnin English or something only startin out .
Giv em a chance
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Vikkiz on July 09, 2018, 12:07:08 pm
Sure why would the rurals go for rideshare, they only pay €5 for their taxis. It's rampant up in Donegal town

Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Octavia1 on July 09, 2018, 12:11:11 pm
Talking to my mate on the council .She says Uber rideshare or any other rideshare for Dublin is unlikely .Our biggest danger comes from busses .She recons that the British company that got the Dublin bus routes will look to go 24 hour and increase their routes as new housing developments come on line .She said the environment committee of DCC are not in favour of promoting any car use in the city so would oppose rideshare .
Seen 2 them gobus or Watever yu call them goin down the coast.....learner plates on them...... All the learners we'r African.....
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Octavia1 on July 09, 2018, 12:12:32 pm
Are yu allowed say African?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on July 09, 2018, 01:40:13 pm
So now they are thinking sensibly on the council. Private cars can go less places than us taxis can. Could you imagine private motorists trying to get to certain places at certain times.

Do I get an "I told yiz rideshare isn't coming"??

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

Not coming to Dublin Vic dont know about rural Ireland .The other thing the good lady councillor mentioned was emissions .Ireland are due for fines of 400 million a year from the EU for not reducing emissions .Government are setting new emissions targets for transport so dont be surprised to see motor tax on diesels increase probably wont effect us but hybrid or electric must be the way to go in future .Something she told me is busses must get permission to run in built up areas after midnight toavoid noise polution ,so unlikely if they do go 24 hour that there will be to many routes allowed .


My next car because Prius my Indian taxi mate (yes Indian) git a lovely 12 Jap one imported last week for 9500 all in
Sunroof revere camera 6 seater very impressive
6 seater
Hybrid cars are cheaper to import 765 vat he said on a 12
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Tony on July 09, 2018, 01:51:25 pm
 They are still a shitty looking gay car, I wouldn't take one if I got it for nothing
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on July 09, 2018, 02:59:09 pm
They are still a shitty looking gay car, I wouldn't take one if I got it for nothing



I'm far from being gay
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Tony on July 09, 2018, 03:18:08 pm
They are still a shitty looking gay car, I wouldn't take one if I got it for nothing



I'm far from being gay

Ya don't have to be gay to look it
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 09, 2018, 03:25:18 pm


My next car because Prius my Indian taxi mate (yes Indian) git a lovely 12 Jap one imported last week for 9500 all in
Sunroof revere camera 6 seater very impressive
6 seater
Hybrid cars are cheaper to import 765 vat he said on a 12

Where did he buy it?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: silverbullet on July 09, 2018, 03:26:33 pm
So now they are thinking sensibly on the council. Private cars can go less places than us taxis can. Could you imagine private motorists trying to get to certain places at certain times.

Do I get an "I told yiz rideshare isn't coming"??

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

Not coming to Dublin Vic dont know about rural Ireland .The other thing the good lady councillor mentioned was emissions .Ireland are due for fines of 400 million a year from the EU for not reducing emissions .Government are setting new emissions targets for transport so dont be surprised to see motor tax on diesels increase probably wont effect us but hybrid or electric must be the way to go in future .Something she told me is busses must get permission to run in built up areas after midnight toavoid noise polution ,so unlikely if they do go 24 hour that there will be to many routes allowed .


My next car because Prius my Indian taxi mate (yes Indian) git a lovely 12 Jap one imported last week for 9500 all in
Sunroof revere camera 6 seater very impressive
6 seater
Hybrid cars are cheaper to import 765 vat he said on a 12
€65.00.fuel for a full week. Happy motoring.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 09, 2018, 03:43:42 pm
Is that better or worse than the Diesel?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: silverbullet on July 09, 2018, 03:48:47 pm
I was putting 100+ in the 2.0 D4D.
I still have 210.KMs range left in the PRIUS.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 09, 2018, 03:55:22 pm
Ah ok thanks I had no way of comparing one against the other.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on July 09, 2018, 04:08:15 pm


My next car because Prius my Indian taxi mate (yes Indian) git a lovely 12 Jap one imported last week for 9500 all in
Sunroof revere camera 6 seater very impressive
6 seater
Hybrid cars are cheaper to import 765 vat he said on a 12

Where did he buy it?




Japan
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Belker on July 10, 2018, 06:39:41 am
My next car because Prius my Indian taxi mate (yes Indian) git a lovely 12 Jap one imported last week for 9500 all in
Sunroof revere camera 6 seater very impressive
6 seater
Hybrid cars are cheaper to import 765 vat he said on a 12

A 12 ?
That leaves him 3 and a bit years left on the licence and after that,
after having a Taxi licence on it, then it will be scrap in 2022 !
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on July 10, 2018, 12:25:00 pm
I stand corrected broker
It's 141 not a 12

Need glasses
He git it in Japan
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 10, 2018, 04:08:56 pm
How much was shipping and how long did it take to arrive?
Is she manual or automatic?
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Octavia1 on July 10, 2018, 04:46:54 pm
Wud yis all just stop wit the gay prius shite.....
A car can't befukin gay ffs.....

My only gripe wit me prius is the lies Toyota tells about the economy fuel consumption..... I got really pissed off last week havin to put another fukin tenner into it
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: silverbullet on July 10, 2018, 05:22:13 pm
Wud yis all just stop wit the gay prius shite.....
A car can't befukin gay ffs.....

My only gripe wit me prius is the lies Toyota tells about the economy fuel consumption..... I got really pissed off last week havin to put another fukin tenner into it
Too right. I miss the nightly chats I used to have with the Petrol station staff.
Now.they hardly remember my name.

And no more Xmas cards either.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Taxi driver42 on July 10, 2018, 06:39:58 pm
How much was shipping and how long did it take to arrive?
Is she manual or automatic?


6 weeks
That price includes shipping
It's automatic the handbrake beside ur foot more of a foot brake
I was impressed with it
They failed him on back windows tinted which he changed within a hour but waiting on retest
Seems parts are easy to get
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: silverbullet on July 10, 2018, 09:19:04 pm
How much was shipping and how long did it take to arrive?
Is she manual or automatic?


6 weeks
That price includes shipping
It's automatic the handbrake beside ur foot more of a foot brake
I was impressed with it
They failed him on back windows tinted which he changed within a hour but waiting on retest
Seems parts are easy to get
Don't worry.  The dissenters have never driven a PRIUS, yet feel qualified to judge it.
A bit  like fat fools in pubs shouting at an inanimate object/television, roaring about footballers shortcomings, never once seeing the irony!
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 11, 2018, 07:06:58 am
Hybrids or electric...that's it...........only a fool would go for the petrol/diesel only brands nowadays.
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Tony on July 11, 2018, 07:44:31 am
Hybrids or electric...that's it...........only a fool would go for the petrol/diesel only brands nowadays.

Agree 100%  but I still wouldn't go near a Prius
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Octavia1 on July 11, 2018, 11:11:01 am
Theres a bloke outside me gaff ( an immigrant)  blown leaves with a smelly smokey petrol engine driven leaf blower... That's blown leafs that have fallen early cause of the heat an global warmin caused by smelly engines curtailing my 12 hours kip ..
An him probably here cause he gettin away from the desert..... An drought....

The fukin irony

Title: Re: UBER
Post by: silverbullet on July 11, 2018, 03:19:52 pm
The beauty of French cars is that when you indicate, the reversing light,  brake lights, etc come on in support.

That's solidarity!
Title: Re: UBER
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 11, 2018, 04:50:43 pm
6 weeks
That price includes shipping
It's automatic the handbrake beside ur foot more of a foot brake
I was impressed with it
They failed him on back windows tinted which he changed within a hour but waiting on retest
Seems parts are easy to get

How would one go about ordering one?