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Title: New Relationship?
Post by: Rat Catcher on September 11, 2018, 02:42:35 pm
I read in one of the nationals that one of the Queen's subjects was summarily extradited from Bray to the UK without so much as an international arrest warrant being in place, never mind a court hearing. Is this what we should expect now that An Garda Siochana is run by a loyalist?
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 11, 2018, 02:50:00 pm
Pressure with the Great British Break Off.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Shallowhal on September 11, 2018, 02:52:59 pm
Who was the subject....another piece of dirt?
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Rat Catcher on September 11, 2018, 02:59:01 pm
Yes.. some paedo that escaped from an open prison or something... but that's not the point. While nobody would object to the scumbag in question being put at the mercy of the British judiciary - the same judiciary that convicted the Birmingham Six and the Guilford Four - allowing Gardai ignore procedure establishes a dangerous precedent, particularly given that an orangeman is calling the shots.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Shallowhal on September 11, 2018, 03:04:00 pm
I'll turn a blind eye so!!
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: john m on September 11, 2018, 03:14:30 pm
Yes.. some paedo that escaped from an open prison or something... but that's not the point. While nobody would object to the scumbag in question being put at the mercy of the British judiciary - the same judiciary that convicted the Birmingham Six and the Guilford Four - allowing Gardai ignore procedure establishes a dangerous precedent, particularly given that an orangeman is calling the shots.

The filthy nonce was not wanted in this jurisdiction he probably aquesed to return to her majesty's lodgings .So nothing to see here move along now .
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: dalymount on September 11, 2018, 03:39:15 pm
Has he been convicited of peadofillia ?
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: john m on September 11, 2018, 04:10:40 pm
Has he been convicited of peadofillia ?

He raped and murdered his niece if its the same nonce
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: dalymount on September 11, 2018, 04:58:51 pm
Absolutely disgusting
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: watty on September 11, 2018, 06:14:20 pm
He might have agreed to be extradited?  Prison food might be better up North?
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: SClass on September 11, 2018, 09:28:39 pm
It's disgusting to think he is back in his nice warm bed , three meals a day
Watching his favourite on a smart TV
All paid for by the hard earned,
Again a snowflake Society,
There's No way should that scrote be still breathing.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Belker on September 11, 2018, 09:40:03 pm
Yiz should av sending his Pox down to us, we do 'Street Justice' down here !
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/burglars-dealt-vigilantes-who-delivered-13224260 (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/burglars-dealt-vigilantes-who-delivered-13224260)
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Belker on September 11, 2018, 09:46:59 pm
I read in one of the nationals that one of the Queen's subjects was summarily extradited from Bray to the UK without so much as an international arrest warrant being in place, never mind a court hearing. Is this what we should expect now that An Garda Siochana is run by a loyalist?
It may take a while fer the orangeman to settle in but hopefully he can decrease the revolving door situation where criminals with multiple convictions are still free to roam the streets.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 12, 2018, 11:45:02 am
Yes.. some paedo that escaped from an open prison or something... but that's not the point. While nobody would object to the scumbag in question being put at the mercy of the British judiciary - the same judiciary that convicted the Birmingham Six and the Guilford Four - allowing Gardai ignore procedure establishes a dangerous precedent, particularly given that an orangeman is calling the shots.

The filthy nonce was not wanted in this jurisdiction he probably aquesed to return to her majesty's lodgings .So nothing to see here move along now .

Nonce...you'd swear you were a jailbird.......not of normal criminal element.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Rat Catcher on September 12, 2018, 04:03:14 pm
He might have agreed to be extradited?  Prison food might be better up North?

Indeed, he was probably persuaded... but is it healthy to allow Orangemen exercise their powers of persuasion in the Republic? The actual case is of little relevance, he would have been returned to the UK if the NIPS had bothered to instigate the correct procedure rather than expecting the Gardai to dance to their tune... Do we want King Billy on our walls?
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: watty on September 12, 2018, 06:17:55 pm
It gets worser.  A retired Captain (of what?) wrote into the Irish Times Letters complaining that the new Commish in the Phoenix Park is wearing his UK medals (OBE etc) on his Irish dress uniform.  It's not the done thing apparently.  Tis the end, I tells ya. 
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Belker on September 13, 2018, 07:09:28 am
I wouldn't worry about it, the Brits have a Thing about medals and Blue-Peter badges 'n all that !

I'd be more worried about what Stephen posted, if the Brits can now get around extradition laws
so easily with an orangeman in charge of the Gardai, then none of us are safe in our beds.
I'd bet that the Guildford 4 and the Birmingham 6 were just the tip of the iceberg and that
many an innocent Irishman has died in an english prison just fer the crime of being IRISH.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 13, 2018, 08:54:23 am
It gets worser.  A retired Captain (of what?) wrote into the Irish Times Letters complaining that the new Commish in the Phoenix Park is wearing his UK medals (OBE etc) on his Irish dress uniform.  It's not the done thing apparently.  Tis the end, I tells ya.

The "occupiers" of the vacant houses thingy in Dublin claimed several masked men with "northern" accents removed them from a building last night. Is this compensation for the Monaghan bombings by proxy?
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Rat Catcher on September 13, 2018, 01:36:05 pm
UVF Publicity photograph from a few years back:

(https://s8.postimg.cc/jmdgm2y5d/Unknown.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Photograph of Gardai up above in Dublin since the RUC man was put in charge:

(https://s8.postimg.cc/fd8qjxxgx/image.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 13, 2018, 01:40:37 pm
Surprised you make any distinction...The Dublin Metropolitan area is governed entirely by British laws....R.I.C.


http://irserver.ucd.ie/bitstream/handle/10197/6055/British_Imperial_Statutes_and_Irish_Law.pdf?sequence=1 (http://irserver.ucd.ie/bitstream/handle/10197/6055/British_Imperial_Statutes_and_Irish_Law.pdf?sequence=1)


Think it's page 8 or 9 Rats,,,,if you could be bothered. All our barristers are called to the B.A.R....British Accreditation Registry. The imperial statutes have been supplanted in the main by E,U. imbued directives. Dublin Castle remains the seat of all power for the Irish within the Empire. Solicitors have asked for sittings of certain courts outside the D.M.A. on several occasions, but I'm sure it has never happened.


The nature of the
relationship between Irish law and British Imperial law was never clarified in the
negotiations that preceded the creation of the 1921 Treaty. This issue finally came to the
fore in the months that followed the drafting of the Constitution of the Irish Free State in
1922. It soon became clear that consideration of this matter could no longer be avoided
when the British and Irish referred the draft Constitution to their respective parliaments.
In early 1922 it became clear that the Constitution of the Irish Free State
would have to be enacted in parallel statutes passed by the Imperial parliament at
Westminster and by the Irish house of representatives, known as ‘Dáil Éireann’, sitting as
a special ‘constituent assembly’. At this juncture the British and Irish governments were
forced to consider two related issues. The first issue concerned the nature of the
relationship between Irish law and existing Imperial legislation, in other words Imperial
statutes passed before 1922. The second issue concerned the nature of the relationship
between Irish law and future Imperial statutes that would be passed after 1922. The
second issue, with its obvious implications for Irish legislative sovereignty, attracted most
attention during the creation of the Constitution of the Irish Free State. Nevertheless the
first issue, which is the primary focus of this article, was not ignored in 1922.
In January 1922, just weeks after the signature of the 1921 Treaty, a special
British committee led by the attorney general came to the conclusion that the creation of
9
the Irish Free State would have to involve a significant body of Imperial statutes being
incorporated into Irish law.13 A definite agreem
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 13, 2018, 02:15:08 pm
Finally, this paper will conclude by making some broad observations about the relationship between the
British and Irish legal systems in light of Brexit. Our two legal systems, once merged under the Act of
Union 1800, were severed into two separate jurisdictions under the Anglo-Irish Treaty of 1921. ‘As
Nelson on his pillar [watched] his world collapse’, ‘the Gaelic nation’, in the words of the poet Louis
MacNeice, ‘appropriated all the alien [had] brought,’ including its legal system.66
 

Now, you'll need to get Draghi or Barosso to explain that in legal terms....both have joined Goldman Sachs since departing the E.U. gravy-train.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 13, 2018, 03:03:13 pm
After the 1937 Constitution came into force the status of pre-1922 Imperial
statutes was no longer denied. Instead, this status was simply ignored. The threat that
they had once posed to Irish sovereignty had receded. Over time the very claim that pre1922
Imperial statutes formed a part of Irish law was largely forgotten.
The question as to whether or not the parliament at Westminster could pass
additional Imperial statutes for the self-governing Irish state after 1922 was not so easily
put out of mind. This issue had threatened to derail the entire settlement represented by
the 1921 Treaty, a development that would have had serious consequences for the history
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Vikkiz on September 13, 2018, 09:30:52 pm
Surprised you make any distinction...The Dublin Metropolitan area is governed entirely by British laws....R.I.C.

Some people will tell ya that we aren’t a free state at all at all and still part of the UK, and that the 1937 constitution removed all the links to it being true.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 14, 2018, 07:58:02 am
I don't think the Special Criminal Court(jury-less) has ever sat outside Dublin.......haven't corroborated that so may be wrong, so my claim that I'm sure is not correct.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 14, 2018, 08:02:15 am
Surprised you make any distinction...The Dublin Metropolitan area is governed entirely by British laws....R.I.C.

Some people will tell ya that we aren’t a free state at all at all and still part of the UK, and that the 1937 constitution removed all the links to it being true.

Well when citizens hand over "inalienable" rights to the State...they've torn up their own constitution. Such rights came from common/natural law and were designed never to be surrendered. One of them was The Right To Life.

Leo maintained there was no conflict of interests in a former intelligence office of the British security services swearing fealty to both British Official Secrets Act and Irish. The Attorney General has been very quiet on this matter. There's a fallout going to happen at some stage.

Using "contractors" to do police work would suggest to me that the force is due a heavy shake-up. In any other country, there'd be civil unrest, but we'd rather save it for a cause that might attract 5,000 likes on Facebook.

In the event of a "United Ireland" sworn subjects of a monarchy cannot live in a Republic, per se. The deals going on behind close doors might explain the lack of Parliamentary activity in Stormont. Collins might have been the fall guy for both sides.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Rat Catcher on September 14, 2018, 10:01:01 am
Where were the Shiners while the people of Dublin were being attacked by masked men under a loyalist's command? Something need to be done before we get our own Bloody Sunday.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 14, 2018, 10:05:32 am
Another one? Jaysus, we've had 2 that I can think of...Croker and the Lockout...

The Shinners are agents of the state...which state? You read a lot RC... so you decide.....I'm off to Manila for 2 weeks soon...fuck them all.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Rat Catcher on September 14, 2018, 10:16:05 am
Another one? Jaysus, we've had 2 that I can think of...Croker and the Lockout...


Not in my lifetime. Enjoy Manila.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 14, 2018, 10:18:00 am
I will...thanks. Bono went on and on and on about the one in Derry...typical of the man.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Shallowhal on September 14, 2018, 11:25:31 am
I will...thanks. Bono went on and on and on about the one in Derry...typical of the man.

But it wasn't a rebel song!!
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 14, 2018, 11:33:14 am
At least you can think for yourself, Hal...one thing about you I do "loike" as they say in Slane.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: silverbullet on September 14, 2018, 02:27:15 pm
Another one? Jaysus, we've had 2 that I can think of...Croker and the Lockout...


Not in my lifetime. Enjoy Manila.
Look out for the Hobbit house . Deadly Pub. In Makai IIRC.
Boracay is closed ATM, try Bohol.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 14, 2018, 02:29:42 pm
Will do...with a Born Again...tetotaller...nurse.....i'll negotiate all barriers. First time for me...Bangkok once and lost 12 pounds in 2 weeks...humidity and ganja.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: silverbullet on September 14, 2018, 06:03:36 pm
Will do...with a Born Again...tetotaller...nurse.....i'll negotiate all barriers. First time for me...Bangkok once and lost 12 pounds in 2 weeks...humidity and ganja.
Typhoon Mangkhut to hit Luzon. Experienced 2 in a month while on Boracay, Typhoon Edeng and Ditang. In Manila 200 people at least died in Payattas, slum dwellers on the Municipal landfill.
They bulldozed the kip for fear of Cholera.

The people are fantastic. The ones with nothing want to share what little they have with you.
Baguio city is the spot for the best Ganja, although Duterte has given carte blanche to shoot dealers on sight!
Shabu  dealers are the main target, or Ice as it's known in Thai.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 14, 2018, 06:06:14 pm
You're too well connected to cross, Silver...you weren't in the film The Raid , Perchance?
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: silverbullet on September 14, 2018, 06:52:58 pm
You're too well connected to cross, Silver...you weren't in the film The Raid , Perchance?
Haven't visited Indonesia yet.
If you've an interest in the Suharto regime , check out this Dutch documentary:
Fu*king sick bastards.
The Act of Killing https://g.co/kgs/Sdb8qD
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 14, 2018, 07:24:29 pm
Plenty of that about in Europe too. Anyway Etihad better be worth it...free after-shave on the way out and handcuffs on the way back...way to go. Typhoon season but that's the miserable kind of cnut I am. Free accommodation etc....
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: silverbullet on September 14, 2018, 10:47:16 pm
Plenty of that about in Europe too. Anyway Etihad better be worth it...free after-shave on the way out and handcuffs on the way back...way to go. Typhoon season but that's the miserable kind of cnut I am. Free accommodation etc....
P.I. The  only Cadillac nation in the Far East, and the reason they're treated like Pariahs by other Asians.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Rat Catcher on September 19, 2018, 08:56:04 pm
Heard a report on the wireless yesterday or the day before of Gardai evicting people at gunpoint up above in Dublin. Pay your rent/mortgage or get shot on sight... the RUC showed more restraint in Londonderry on Bloody Sunday. How long before human rights activists need to take up arms in Dublin?
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: silverbullet on September 19, 2018, 08:59:52 pm
Heard a report on the wireless yesterday or the day before of Gardai evicting people at gunpoint up above in Dublin. Pay your rent/mortgage or get shot on sight... the RUC showed more restraint in Londonderry on Bloody Sunday. How long before human rights activists need to take up arms in Dublin?
If you're caught wearing a Balaclava you can be charged with impersonating a Garda! 8)
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Rat Catcher on September 19, 2018, 09:02:43 pm
Also heard they're banning filming/photographing/recording Gardai while they kick the shit out of taigs in rent/mortgage arrears...
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: silverbullet on September 20, 2018, 05:57:21 pm
Also heard they're banning filming/photographing/recording Gardai while they kick the shit out of taigs in rent/mortgage arrears...
Who'd have thought the Gardai and UDA would merge?
Still, it's one step nearer a United Ireland. 8)
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 08, 2018, 04:08:15 pm
Read in one of the nationals that one of the latest shooting victims up above in Dublin was made aware of a credible threat to his life by the Gardai. Begs the question why wasn't he afforded adequate protection? We all see Gardai parked up minding gangsters in Dublin. I wonder if they are being selective under the new loyalist leadership?
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: dalymount on October 08, 2018, 04:59:49 pm
Its an absolute disgrace that Irish taxpayers money is going on protecting these scumbags,from other scumbags
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 08, 2018, 05:45:01 pm
They'd only squander it bailing out banks anyway. However, if the Gradai were mildly competent most of these gangsters would be locked up.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: watty on October 08, 2018, 05:55:09 pm
I think they're called Garda Information Notices and they're just an arse-covering exercise by the Gardai so they don't get sued. 
I believe they've issued hundreds of them so it would be impractical to protect everyone.




Wait a minute , isn't that their job?  lol
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Shallowhal on October 08, 2018, 05:59:34 pm
Scum killin scum!!
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Tony on October 08, 2018, 06:15:58 pm
Its an absolute disgrace that Irish taxpayers money is going on protecting these scumbags,from other scumbags

Plus wan
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: silverbullet on October 08, 2018, 08:52:31 pm
Almost unheard of...A drug  dealer reaching the age of 45.
Our own drug dealer, the one who got his licence back at 43!
Two years left so!!
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Belker on October 09, 2018, 08:04:07 am
They'd only squander it bailing out banks anyway. However, if the Gradai were mildly competent most of these gangsters would be locked up.
I wouldn't lay the blame at the Garda's feet, the Guards catch them all the time, the problem is the Law and Court system in Eire allows them a revolving door policy in and out of prison on bail or temporary release.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on October 09, 2018, 08:29:21 am
I think they're called Garda Information Notices and they're just an arse-covering exercise by the Gardai so they don't get sued. 
I believe they've issued hundreds of them so it would be impractical to protect everyone.




Wait a minute , isn't that their job?  lol

Touchy-Feely pc shite nowadays means cops are pets rather than attack dogs.....IF, and only IF, you are a bogey.
Title: Re: New Relationship?
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 09, 2018, 10:07:19 pm
I think they're called Garda Information Notices and they're just an arse-covering exercise by the Gardai so they don't get sued. 
I believe they've issued hundreds of them so it would be impractical to protect everyone.




Wait a minute , isn't that their job?  lol

Lack of policing has undoubtedly contributed to creating the necessity to issue notices in such volumes.