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Title: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 03, 2018, 09:56:07 am
For the benefit of those of you who wish to attend,there will be a silent protest outside Dail eirann this thursday at 6_30 pm with regard to the UN migration pact.this protest is being organised by our new political party called the irexet freedom party
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Belker on December 03, 2018, 10:10:07 am
Is the protest to allow the immigrants in Or deport the immigrants out ?
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 03, 2018, 11:00:50 am
For the benefit of those of you who wish to attend,there will be a silent protest outside Dail eirann this thursday at 6_30 pm with regard to the UN migration pact.this protest is being organised by our new political party called the irexet freedom party

Good luck Dalyer. My feeling is that this all too little and too late. I was sneered at and slagged off for forecasting the outcome of the reversal of Nice and Lisbon, but even then, I knew it was all over. Wish you guys well and I sincerely mean that.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 03, 2018, 11:06:53 am
Thanks lippy,but considering the dept of feeling there is in this country in favour of multiculturalism,im not to optimistic that our protest will be well received.however the purpose of our protest is to highlight our opposition to the united nations proposed charter (I think)
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 03, 2018, 11:15:48 am
Don't forget to ask the lads there if they've heard of the Marrakesh Treaty....and to ask one of them to petition Varadkar for a reason as to why he chose to sign this without any due deference to the gobshites in his own party who appointed him leader and Taoiseach.

This man needs to be brought to task over this. The U.N. charter is exactly what it is about, Dalyer........Varadkar has been begging for his own good self to gain membership of the council.



Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 03, 2018, 11:22:42 am
No doubt ill be torn a new asshole when John gets up out of bed and sees my post
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 03, 2018, 11:26:20 am
He's the least of your worries. Watch the do-gooders turn out in numbers firing all sorts of accusations at you on Thurs. Smile and say fuck all.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 03, 2018, 11:45:37 am
Yeah well it is a silent protest,but I am expecting physical abuse.Peter O Loughlin of identity Ireland was beaten up on a bus some time ago by people who have an opposing view.the launch of that party was also gate crashed in the hotel opposite the Dail.the national Irish party also had its launched cancelled by the merrion hotel 2 years ago.this is the type of thing we sre up against.I would say this is orchestrated,and supported by the likes of people before profit,and Boyd Barrett in particular.there is also the likes of that cunt Coppinger to contend with
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 03, 2018, 11:47:31 am
A certain senator...she's behind all of this...........Coppinger and the dirty Calvin Klein wearers are just bandwagoners.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 03, 2018, 01:48:53 pm
Which senetor please name and shame
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 03, 2018, 02:35:20 pm
Dollyer There are two ways to legally grow your economy .Increase productivity or increase worker participation .Productivity increase increases financial return but does not necessarily increase Growth .Example the hundreds of telephone operators that worked in the GPO were replaced by an automated connection system .More calls made less people employed .

 So here is the Socio economic argument for low skilled migrants .They do on the edge work ,that is work that is only just economically viable and cannot be automated .Hotel bed making cleaning ,jobs where the public like the interface like coffee shops pubs taxi driving .As long as we import adults they can take up this employment we are growing our tax base even though they pay little if any income tax so we introduce Social Charge and PRSI .BUT there is also a darker side these people take up services and housing that forces the indigenous population to rethink their family situation as they struggle to find accommodation .Responsible families will restrict the number of children if any as a result of their situation .Children are a drag on an economy ,Maternity grants ,Maternity leave ,Childrens allowance ,Free Schools and playschools ,Free school meals and transport for some not to mention special needs payments add in single parents allowances when marriages break down plus childrens hospitals .Every child born in the state is a burden to the state .Immigration ,Gay marriage ,abortion are just population control mechanisms employed by the state to save money .
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 03, 2018, 02:51:18 pm
Alas, immigration is merely a temporary solution as far as menial labour is concerned. A generation or two down the line and they become the professional classes. In fact, An Taoiseach himself is the son of an immigrant.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Shallowhal on December 03, 2018, 04:35:55 pm
Alas, immigration is merely a temporary solution as far as menial labour is concerned. A generation or two down the line and they become the professional classes. In fact, An Taoiseach himself is the son of an immigrant.

Don't think his da arrived on a boat via multiple countries....i reckon first class meself!!
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 03, 2018, 05:38:46 pm
Im sock hearing the argument Irish people wont do the meniel jobs.Irish people wont do them,because we have a minimum raye structure which is constantly being breached by foreigners who continue to undercut Irish workers.hence the reason the employers are so welcoming of foreigners
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 03, 2018, 05:56:25 pm
Im sock hearing the argument Irish people wont do the meniel jobs.Irish people wont do them,because we have a minimum raye structure which is constantly being breached by foreigners who continue to undercut Irish workers.hence the reason the employers are so welcoming of foreigners

Wrong employers pay the minimum wage .I have explained why we want cheap workers it has very little to do with wage rates its crowd control its all about controling the birthrate .Just look at family size before we entered the EU and today .
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: watty on December 03, 2018, 06:40:44 pm
Since Europeans have mostly stopped having babies, we'll need young immigrants to pay for our pensions in the years to come. 
They'll also wipe the dribble off your face when you end up in the nursing home and need looking after...
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: watty on December 03, 2018, 06:43:10 pm
https://www.irexitfreedom.ie/ (https://www.irexitfreedom.ie/)
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 03, 2018, 06:49:07 pm
think the main man is a Brit .
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: silverbullet on December 03, 2018, 11:32:08 pm
Who are the speakers?
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2018, 01:40:12 pm
Don't think his da arrived on a boat via multiple countries....i reckon first class meself!!

I have friends from Eritrea who have several Children, one studying medicine up above in Trinity, another studying medicine in Queens and another practicing as an architect. Similarly, I have three mixed race cousins in the UK, all of whom are practicing professionals.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2018, 01:46:54 pm
Im sock hearing the argument Irish people wont do the meniel jobs.Irish people wont do them,because we have a minimum raye structure which is constantly being breached by foreigners who continue to undercut Irish workers.hence the reason the employers are so welcoming of foreigners

Our own trade is proof enough, DM. There's a thread in the Member's section entitled Céad Míle Fáilte which lists new entrants as they are discovered by our bots. The vast majority are immigrants. Taxi fares don't vary in accordance with the driver's nationality of birth/inheritance to any significant extent.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 04, 2018, 02:22:43 pm
Maybe not,but professional behaviour sure as hell does.Irish drivers never used to pull to the top of a rank,the dont go around whistling at potential punters,the dont rob fares from under the noses of Irish drivers trying to operate to rank rules,Irish drivers are also vetted to a high standard,these people are only vettedfro the date of their arrival in Ireland,some cannot even speak English,and NONE of them are properly vetted etc etc
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 04, 2018, 02:26:56 pm
Its like I said before rat,the people who are most welcoming of foreigners are,well healed politicans ,the likes of John bruton with his 5-pensions,and businessmen who want to avail of the cheap imported labour.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2018, 02:28:37 pm
Indeed... but how would the public get taxis without them? The point is that Irish born kids don't want to do menial jobs. In our case the immigrants' labour is no cheaper than ours.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 04, 2018, 02:35:21 pm
Indeed... but how would the public get taxis without them? The point is that Irish born kids don't want to do menial jobs. In our case the immigrants' labour is no cheaper than ours.

One might opine if it wasent for overseas labour willingness to drive taxies we might of gotten UBER rideshare .
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2018, 02:40:32 pm
We might still get Rideshare be it Uber Rideshare, mytaxi Rideshare, Daimler Rideshare or whatever. There's still a perceived shortage of taxis widely promoted by dispatch firms and drivers unions.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2018, 02:55:07 pm
Back on topic...

Would success in this protest curtail the flood of immigrants from Eastern Europe? I know we shouldn't generalise but immigrants from Eastern Europe seem to have a relatively high propensity to become involved in violent crime, up to and including murder.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2018, 02:58:55 pm
In fact, there's an appalling case reported upon in yesterday's Indo:

Residents 'heard laughing' after murder victim thrown into river - court hears

Jonathan Duke
Ralph Riegel 
December 3 2018 7:16 PM
 
TWO residents of an apartment complex heard loud laughing seconds after the State alleged the body of a strangled man was dragged down stairs and then thrown into a river.
The claim came at the opening of a Central Criminal Court trial in Cork where Romanian national Ciprian Grozavu (44) denies the murder of Jonathan 'Dukie' Duke (27).

The defendant, when arraigned, told the trial he was: "not guilty, your honour."

Grozavu denies the murder of Mr Duke at Bridge House, Sean Hales Place, Bandon, Co Cork on November 13 2011.

The Romanian, whose nickname is 'Chippy', had been living at Bridge House in the west Cork town, which overlooks the Bandon River, in November 2011.

Tim O'Leary SC, for the State, outlined the prosecution case to Ms Justice Tara Burns and the jury of eight men and three women.

He warned the jury that aspects of the case would be "gruesome".

Mr O'Leary said two men living in Apartment No 2 at Bridge House, Aaron Nolan and Shane O'Driscoll, heard loud noises coming from Apartment No 3 that November evening.

The flat was overhead and occupied by Mr Grozavu.

"They heard a commotion - loud noises coming from No 3. They heard a number of matters occurring," he said.

"It got to the stage where they (the residents of No 2) came out to see what was happening on the landing."

Mr O'Leary said it is the State case that the body of Mr Duke had been dragged down the stairs, out the front door of Bridge House and then thrown into the River Bandon. The body fell around six metres into the river.

Mr O'Leary said evidence from Assistant State Pathologist Dr Margaret Bolster will indicate Mr Duke died from strangulation - and was effectively dead when his body entered the River Bandon.

He told the jury Gardaí found the body of Mr Duke underneath Bandon Bridge, a short distance downstream from Bridge House in the River Bandon.

"They (the residents of No 2) were effectively listening to what went on," he said.

"There was a large amount of sounds.

"They heard what was happening....a bumping sound. They heard something that could have been something being brought downstairs. (You may) infer it was the body being dragged down stairs to the front of the house."

Mr O'Leary said the two young occupants of Apartment No 2 then looked out a window by the landing to see the front of the house.

It is the State case that the defendant was at the front of the house accompanied by his on-off girlfriend, Catherine O'Connor.

Mr O'Leary told the jury O'Connor was a co-accused of the defendant but has been convicted of Mr Duke's murder.

"She is not on trial here - it is irrelevant."

"Just because Ms O'Connor has been found guilty of this matter, well, you do not automatically say Mr Grozavu is guilty as well. Not at all. We (prosecution) have to prove the matter. We have to prove all the case - good, bad or indifferent."

Mr O'Leary said that, seconds before the occupants of Apartment No 2 fled Bridge House to raise the alarm, they heard "very loud laughing" from the stairwell as two people came back up the stairs.

When Gardaí arrived at the scene minutes later, they found blood marks all along the stairwell.

One Garda found the defendant and O'Connor near Apartment No 3.

"He will talk about his (Grozavu's) state," Mr O'Leary said.

The Garda knew Grozavu by his local nickname of 'Chippy.'

Mr Duke's body was recovered from the river by Gardaí and emergency services a short time later.

Grozavu appeared in court wearing a navy blue suit, white shirt and tie.

He did not speak during the hearing beyond acknowledging relatives from Romania who had travelled to Cork for the trial.

The trial is expected to last up to two weeks.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 04, 2018, 04:28:25 pm
Have any of you read the proposed contents of the united.ations charter on migration ? You would not believe what it contains.it demands that migrants are afforded everything that native people of the country they chose to go to have.it even proposes that to speak in derogatory terms about migration will now be a criminal offence .its quite unbelievable what they propose to do
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 05, 2018, 07:05:51 am
Yes, and unfortunately I don't think you've read the Marrakesh treaty yourself, Dalyer. Tell your cohorts on Thurs to read it and lobby a TD to get Varadkar to answer as to how, when, why was this signed when the bleeding hearts had all of us focused on the abortion ref. I hope your lads know a TD or senator? Something tells me they're just ramping up a brouhaha in order to become Ireland's Monster Raving Loony Party......(money from Europe).

Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 05, 2018, 08:26:53 am
Have any of you read the proposed contents of the united.ations charter on migration ? You would not believe what it contains.it demands that migrants are afforded everything that native people of the country they chose to go to have.it even proposes that to speak in derogatory terms about migration will now be a criminal offence .its quite unbelievable what they propose to do

And all thanks to an Irishman........Peter Sutherland.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 05, 2018, 02:01:14 pm
Have any of you read the proposed contents of the united.ations charter on migration ? You would not believe what it contains.it demands that migrants are afforded everything that native people of the country they chose to go to have.it even proposes that to speak in derogatory terms about migration will now be a criminal offence .its quite unbelievable what they propose to do

I have no problem with equality in treatment... although I don't agree with Eastern Europeans being allowed claim Child Benefit for Children who don't reside in the State, in my mind that is preferential rather than equal treatment.  Attempting to restrict freedom of speech shouldn't be tolerated. A lot of folk are opposed to multiculturisation, there is no reason they shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinions.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 05, 2018, 02:07:05 pm
think the main man is a Brit .

Farage might have time to give them a dig out, provided they don't oppose Islam:

https://www.thejournal.ie/farage-nigel-ukip-4375905-Dec2018/ (https://www.thejournal.ie/farage-nigel-ukip-4375905-Dec2018/)

Nigel Farage quits UKIP, says party has become too extreme

The MEP said the party had become fixated on far-right activist Tommy Robinson.

NIGEL FARAGE HAS announced that he is leaving the UK Independence Party (UKIP), and has taken a swipe at party leader Gerard Batten and former far-right leader Tommy Robinson in the process.

Writing in The Daily Telegraph, Farage said the “obsession” the current UKIP leadership has with Robinson – whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon – and “fixation with the issue of Islam makes UKIP unrecognisable to many of us”.

Farage had long campaigned for Britain to leave the EU, and led UKIP for a number of years.

He closed his statement by saying: “There is a huge space for a Brexit party in British politics, but it won’t be filled by UKIP.”

The MEP for South-East England has led UKIP on a number of occasions, dating back to 2006 and most recently in 2016.

Although he was a figurehead for the ultimately successful Leave campaign in the Brexit referendum, UKIP failed to capitalise on these gains and its vote collapsed from 12.6% in the 2015 general election to 1.8% in 2017.

Farage was criticised during the campaign for an anti-migrant poster showing a queue of refugees with the headline “Breaking point: the EU has failed us all”. He also faced criticism for a key promise from the Leave campaign that the money the UK sends to EU every week would be pumped directly into the NHS after Brexit.

He admitted the day after the Brexit vote that this pledge was “a mistake”.

The party has always been known for right-wing, euroscepticism and British nationalism, and been accused of being anti-immigrant and Islamophobic. Writing in the Telegraph, however, Farage said that the party’s direction had changed fundamentally under latest leader Batten.

He said: “With the Conservative and Labour parties having openly broken both their referendum and general election promises, UKIP should be riding high in the polls.
With regret, however, I must admit that I now do not believe it will do so again. Mr Batten’s obsession with Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (to use Tommy Robinson’s real name) and fixation with the issue of Islam makes UKIP unrecognisable to many of us.

He said Robinson – who founded a street-level Islamophobic fringe group called the English Defence League – was “entirely unsuitable to be involved in any political party”.
Farage also said that the party’s activities may now also inspire “violent and thuggish behaviour” and this will give the opponents of Brexit “a chance to lambast Brexiteers everywhere”.

Referencing the looming Brexit vote in the House of Commons, he added: “We are now just a few days away from the most ill-judged political event I have ever been aware of in British politics. The very idea of Tommy Robinson being at the centre of the Brexit debate is too awful to contemplate.”

Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 05, 2018, 06:06:33 pm
Rat what is even more preferential treatment is,the fact that when these people come to our country and apply for a licence to drive a taxi,they are only vetted from the date of their arrival,unlike Irish drivers whoi are vetted from the date of their birth.also I would point out that it is a known,and accepted fact that some of these people cannot even speak proper English,so how the hell are they passing the test. ? Answer, politicians are afraid of their shite of the immigration council of Ireland,and to make any derogatory comments about this,could spell the end of their political careers.that body is massively influential
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: mercenary for hire on December 05, 2018, 06:22:35 pm
It's not an English grammar test.Street names are still the same no matter what language you try to speak.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 05, 2018, 07:23:16 pm
Its nothing to do with English grammar test,its to do with having some fukking idea where you are going.its also a shameful indictment on our politicians when they are afraid to challenge this for of the immigrant council of Ireland
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: mercenary for hire on December 05, 2018, 07:37:22 pm
Yeah, I know but ya can read and learn a map if you dont have English.Bleeding immigrants making our jobs look easy.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 05, 2018, 07:43:32 pm
Well my understanding is,you are not allowed to use maps,or any other aid while actually taking the test. So this brings me back to my first question, how are these people passing the test ?
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Vikkiz on December 05, 2018, 08:06:14 pm
By studying, I believe it’s called
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: silverbullet on December 05, 2018, 08:49:54 pm
Possession of a SATNAV is all that's required.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 06, 2018, 05:36:19 am
think the main man is a Brit .

Farage might have time to give them a dig out, provided they don't oppose Islam:

https://www.thejournal.ie/farage-nigel-ukip-4375905-Dec2018/ (https://www.thejournal.ie/farage-nigel-ukip-4375905-Dec2018/)

Nigel Farage quits UKIP, says party has become too extreme

The MEP said the party had become fixated on far-right activist Tommy Robinson.

NIGEL FARAGE HAS announced that he is leaving the UK Independence Party (UKIP), and has taken a swipe at party leader Gerard Batten and former far-right leader Tommy Robinson in the process.

Writing in The Daily Telegraph, Farage said the “obsession” the current UKIP leadership has with Robinson – whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon – and “fixation with the issue of Islam makes UKIP unrecognisable to many of us”.

Farage had long campaigned for Britain to leave the EU, and led UKIP for a number of years.

He closed his statement by saying: “There is a huge space for a Brexit party in British politics, but it won’t be filled by UKIP.”

The MEP for South-East England has led UKIP on a number of occasions, dating back to 2006 and most recently in 2016.

Although he was a figurehead for the ultimately successful Leave campaign in the Brexit referendum, UKIP failed to capitalise on these gains and its vote collapsed from 12.6% in the 2015 general election to 1.8% in 2017.

Farage was criticised during the campaign for an anti-migrant poster showing a queue of refugees with the headline “Breaking point: the EU has failed us all”. He also faced criticism for a key promise from the Leave campaign that the money the UK sends to EU every week would be pumped directly into the NHS after Brexit.

He admitted the day after the Brexit vote that this pledge was “a mistake”.

The party has always been known for right-wing, euroscepticism and British nationalism, and been accused of being anti-immigrant and Islamophobic. Writing in the Telegraph, however, Farage said that the party’s direction had changed fundamentally under latest leader Batten.

He said: “With the Conservative and Labour parties having openly broken both their referendum and general election promises, UKIP should be riding high in the polls.
With regret, however, I must admit that I now do not believe it will do so again. Mr Batten’s obsession with Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (to use Tommy Robinson’s real name) and fixation with the issue of Islam makes UKIP unrecognisable to many of us.

He said Robinson – who founded a street-level Islamophobic fringe group called the English Defence League – was “entirely unsuitable to be involved in any political party”.
Farage also said that the party’s activities may now also inspire “violent and thuggish behaviour” and this will give the opponents of Brexit “a chance to lambast Brexiteers everywhere”.

Referencing the looming Brexit vote in the House of Commons, he added: “We are now just a few days away from the most ill-judged political event I have ever been aware of in British politics. The very idea of Tommy Robinson being at the centre of the Brexit debate is too awful to contemplate.”

Job done by the insider, Farage. Never the working man's friend and a total fraud of a man............insider earning serious poke from the very gravytrain he pretends to resent and now realizing the game is up for Brexit he is distancing himself...just like I Tory Plan B(Tony P Blair) and Cameron.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 06, 2018, 12:47:12 pm
I guess we don't really need to know where we're going these days, the apps will guide you every step of the way. I used to know Dublin like the back of my hand despite the fact that proving oneself to be unemployable was the most difficult part of the entry "test" back when I sat it. In fact, it was virtually impossible to fail the test before that mean and nasty lady, Kathleen Doyle, took responsibility for the same from An Garda Síochána. I learned through experience. However, I have genuinely forgotten more than the rest of you combined, excluding BhT, will ever know.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: silverbullet on December 06, 2018, 07:56:13 pm
I guess we don't really need to know where we're going these days, the apps will guide you every step of the way. I used to know Dublin like the back of my hand despite the fact that proving oneself to be unemployable was the most difficult part of the entry "test" back when I sat it. In fact, it was virtually impossible to fail the test before that mean and nasty lady, Kathleen Doyle, took responsibility for the same from An Garda Síochána. I learned through experience. However, I have genuinely forgotten more than the rest of you combined, excluding BhT, will ever know.
How very dare you!

I've forgotten far more than you! 8)
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Shallowhal on December 07, 2018, 03:32:32 am
By studying, I believe it’s called

They can even pass it with their eyes closed....true dat!!
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 07, 2018, 09:28:37 am
Well my understanding is,you are not allowed to use maps,or any other aid while actually taking the test. So this brings me back to my first question, how are these people passing the test ?

Rules for Radicals is how.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 07, 2018, 09:43:21 am
Well my understanding is,you are not allowed to use maps,or any other aid while actually taking the test. So this brings me back to my first question, how are these people passing the test ?

I recon I could pass any county test even if I never visited it .
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Shallowhal on December 07, 2018, 11:57:04 am
Well my understanding is,you are not allowed to use maps,or any other aid while actually taking the test. So this brings me back to my first question, how are these people passing the test ?

I recon I could pass any county test even if I never visited it .

I think they ask more than just where the pubs are John!
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 07, 2018, 01:06:29 pm
It's strange that new entrants are required to know more than incumbents. Surely we should all be required to complete the geography part of the test periodically, maybe every five years. Cityscapes change quite rapidly.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Shallowhal on December 07, 2018, 01:46:54 pm
But we're out there working those ever changing cityscapes RC....well some of us are....it's hard to see those changes from the unofficial at McDonalds in Main St,Swords.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 07, 2018, 02:02:00 pm
But we're out there working those ever changing cityscapes RC....well some of us are....it's hard to see those changes from the unofficial at McDonalds in Main St,Swords.

Leave Charles alone .
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 07, 2018, 02:09:08 pm
Hence you would have no problem passing the test every 3 or 5 years, Hal... in so doing you'd weed out the dead wood.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Shallowhal on December 07, 2018, 02:15:45 pm
Hence you would have no problem passing the test every 3 or 5 years, Hal... in so doing you'd weed out the dead wood.

Ye would n ye bollox...i'd say there's a good chance the immigrant council would be up in arms for their members aswell!!
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 07, 2018, 02:20:39 pm
Fuck the immigrants council, it stands to reason that experienced men should be at least as well qualified as new drivers.

Back on topic, how did the protest go DM? I haven't come across any reports in the press...
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 07, 2018, 02:23:02 pm
Would you ever listen to yourselves most of you drive taxies because you were not clever enough to drive a delivery van ,at least some customers can give you directions a carboard box cant
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 07, 2018, 02:28:01 pm
Just put the Eircode in Google, erm. However that mean and nasty lady, Kathleen Doyle, decided that new entrants should know the geography of the area(s) in respect of which they are licensed. Hence it stands to reason that experienced men should have similar knowledge.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 07, 2018, 02:45:43 pm
By coincidence this was reported in The Journal on the day of the protest:

https://www.thejournal.ie/migrants-lancet-study-benefit-economy-4377212-Dec2018/ (https://www.thejournal.ie/migrants-lancet-study-benefit-economy-4377212-Dec2018/)

'Migrants are vital to the wellbeing of society': Study finds common myths about immigrants are false

The two-year research was published in the medical journal The Lancet.

A NEW STUDY has found that common myths surrounding migrants and public health are not supported by evidence despite being used to justify policies of exclusion.

The research, published in the medical journal The Lancet, found that these myths – including claims that migrants are an economic and health burden – are harmful to society.

It debunked a number of negative stereotypes about migrants, including that they are disease-ridden, that they primarily come from different countries, that they don’t contribute to their host economies, and that they have more children than natives.
A two-year project between University College London and The Lancet, it also suggested that these myths deflect the positive contribution migrants make to global economies.
According to the research, there were more than a billion migrants on the move in 2018, but just a quarter of these (an estimated 258 million people) crossed an international border.

It also found that despite perceptions that migration is on the rise, the rate of international migration has remained relatively stable over the last four decades, rising from 2.9% in 1990 to 3.4% in 2017.

Economic reasons
The research looked at the perception that those who migrate to different countries make no contribution to the places to which they travel.

It revealed that around 65% of those who travelled across a border did so for economic reasons, while a much smaller proportion of refugees and asylum seekers did so.

And while the rate of international migrants almost doubled from 7.6% in 1990 to 13.4% in 2017 in high-income countries, those migrants were more likely to be students paying for education or labour migrants who made net contributions to their host’s economy.

In contrast, refugees made up a larger proportion of the total population in low-income countries compared to high-income countries (0.7% vs 0.2%).

Migrants were also found to bring a rise in the gross domestic product of their host countries, while also contributing to improved global wealth distribution.

In advanced economies, each 1% increase in migrants in the adult population was found to increase the gross domestic product per person by up to 2%.

An estimated €540 billion was sent by migrants to their families at origin in 2017, around three quarters of which were to low- and middle-income countries – an amount three times larger than official development assistance.

Healthcare workforce
The study also revealed that migrants constituted a “substantial proportion” of the healthcare workforce in many high-income countries.

Rather than being a burden, it reported that they were more likely to bolster services by providing medical care, teaching children, caring for older people, and supporting understaffed services.

When it came to receiving health services, they were also found to have an overall positive health benefit to societies, with the study calling for governments to improve migrants’ access to services and strengthen their right to health care.

Additionally, it noted that fear of deportation meant migrants would often forego seeking healthcare or assistance when they needed it, which hindered both individual and public health in their host countries.

Commenting on the study, Professor Ibrahim Abubakar of University College London said that populist discourse needlessly demonised the same individuals who upheld economies and bolstered social care and health services.

“Questioning the deservingness of migrants for health care on the basis of inaccurate beliefs supports practices of exclusion, harming the health of individuals, our society, and our economies,” he said.

“Migration is the defining issue of our time. How the world addresses human mobility will determine public health and social cohesion for decades ahead.”

Co-author Professor Terry McGovern of Columbia University in the USA added that the study showed how migrants were “vital to our wellbeing as a society”.

“Addressing the healthcare needs of migrant populations is an essential strategy to stemming costs associated with any avoidable disease burden in these populations,” he said
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 07, 2018, 03:27:13 pm
Nobody reads that liberal supporting rag the journal
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 07, 2018, 03:37:40 pm
What do the liberals read? I just use Google News these days, it pulls articles from all the main "newspapers" and The Journal.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 07, 2018, 05:09:02 pm
They make CNN look like fox news
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: silverbullet on December 07, 2018, 09:11:20 pm
Hence you would have no problem passing the test every 3 or 5 years, Hal... in so doing you'd weed out the dead wood.
The illiterates would be up in arms.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Vikkiz on December 08, 2018, 02:20:42 pm
Would you ever listen to yourselves most of you drive taxies because you were not clever enough to drive a delivery van ,at least some customers can give you directions a carboard box cant
At

That van driver has a boss to answer to, taxi drivers don’t. We can pick and choose our hours. If you were a delivery driver you need to start at a certain time blah blah blah
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Shallowhal on December 08, 2018, 02:32:22 pm
Van driver?....was involved in all that,most van drivers are contractors,own their own vans etc...but only get a small percentage of the takings...hours not your own...blah blah blah....be better to get that daytime gig and drive your joe at the weekend John!!
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Vikkiz on December 08, 2018, 02:36:57 pm
Just keep driving the joe ffs. Why would ya want to have a boss and have to start at a certain time
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 08, 2018, 02:39:52 pm
im looking at packing tablets 7.30 am till 4 no wages to speak of but no heavy lifting .factory is about ten minutes from my bunker .Seriously thinking of it IF and its becomming a BIG IF that Brexit shit happens there willbe a lot of job losses going to impact on tourism which effects my bit of coin .
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 08, 2018, 02:42:38 pm
Just keep driving the joe ffs. Why would ya want to have a boss and have to start at a certain time

 I cant motivate meself Vicci Im just fed up in the car need to do something else for a while ,not giving up the Joe just recharging me batteries .Real problem is 57 year old fat blokes are not in demand .
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Shallowhal on December 08, 2018, 02:45:46 pm
What age are you now John...56?....that job will numb your head.....ye won't be able communicate with other workers with your level of education and knowledge,they'll hate you cos they'll think you're a condescending fuk...we should know....we're exposed to it everyday on here!!
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 08, 2018, 03:08:30 pm
What age are you now John...56?....that job will numb your head.....ye won't be able communicate with other workers with your level of education and knowledge,they'll hate you cos they'll think you're a condescending fuk...we should know....we're exposed to it everyday on here!!

Condesending with a touch of rrogance ans self rightiousness was what I was going for
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Shallowhal on December 08, 2018, 03:17:36 pm
What age are you now John...56?....that job will numb your head.....ye won't be able communicate with other workers with your level of education and knowledge,they'll hate you cos they'll think you're a condescending fuk...we should know....we're exposed to it everyday on here!!

Condesending with a touch of rrogance ans self rightiousness was what I was going for

Work on the arrogance John....and you'll have reached Defcon 1.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 08, 2018, 04:21:15 pm
End of life crisis?
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Shallowhal on December 08, 2018, 04:27:22 pm
John seems to have given up on life....or maybe life has.... ::fds
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 08, 2018, 05:06:00 pm
Na Hal just need a break fromthe old routine .At least around here you can have a reasonable rant with others who dont get offended if you forget the full stops or commas .
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: Shallowhal on December 08, 2018, 05:27:45 pm
Na Hal just need a break fromthe old routine .At least around here you can have a reasonable rant with others who dont get offended if you forget the full stops or commas .

Agree with ye John....Boards it ain't!!

I'm like that at the mo,just cos it's Christmas i'm not breaking me bollox...i'll go out and earn what i earn and i'll come home when it suits,i couldn't give a bollix if Jacinta and Natalie can't get a joe when they fall out of Mackers on O'Connell,
I'll be in town on the 27th with the missus for our annual jolly soaking up the atmosphere having scoops in our old haunts and then fall back to the hotel for a bit of how's yer father kip...bumped into Gerry and his burd last year...that man can't handle his gargle....a wine spritzer was his tipple if memory serves and her scullin cocktails!!
I love it when i'm not driving me hape these days...a real pleasure actually,
Ye need to start doin things John....weekends away...it doesn't have to involve hooverin mountains of snow up yer nostrils while checkin out Escorts Irl....everything in moderation i say!!
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: john m on December 08, 2018, 06:26:22 pm
Im working on a gig for our kid in Oman for the new year I was thinking of going .Driving a taxi gets a bit sameish just like a few months doing something different .Some of the Rank Rats I meet work fixed shifts and wind themselves up if they dont make Purse A few drivers insist on working the same rank the same time every shift .I volenteered for a survey and medical in UCD and mental illness is most prevelent among people like drivers as they have to consentrate all the time they are working and this leads to mental exhaustion which in turn can lead to depression.You know yourself whenyou get in after a 10 hour shift you watch whats for sale telly or come on here and annoy others and yourself to unwinde.
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: dalymount on December 08, 2018, 08:05:12 pm
John you should do what me,and a few friends of mine do .e ery year,twice a year,we go and stay with the trappist monks in mount mellary abbey county Waterford.we go for a week at a time.you would not believe how recharged your batteries are when you come back.its incredible we have been doing it for years
Title: Re: Silent protest
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 09, 2018, 07:36:17 am
Im working on a gig for our kid in Oman for the new year I was thinking of going .Driving a taxi gets a bit sameish just like a few months doing something different .Some of the Rank Rats I meet work fixed shifts and wind themselves up if they dont make Purse A few drivers insist on working the same rank the same time every shift .I volenteered for a survey and medical in UCD and mental illness is most prevelent among people like drivers as they have to consentrate all the time they are working and this leads to mental exhaustion which in turn can lead to depression.You know yourself whenyou get in after a 10 hour shift you watch whats for sale telly or come on here and annoy others and yourself to unwinde.

Muscat? Be careful there. Keep your mouth shit if you are drinking and you can do so in the hotels. Lot of Yanks living there and working in Saudi...military folks.