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Title: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Daily Driver on February 20, 2019, 10:36:00 am
Much grumbling among the worker bees up in ballymount due to the switch of focus to yellow pack chauffeurs. Both the taxi driving bees and despatch bees none too pleased with instructions from the Vinny bee. It seems all juicy high fare prebooked work is held aside and only assigned at 8pm. This is when the limo drivers ring in and fill their boots. When they have taken all of the full fat €100 fares they can manage there is slimmer pickings left. All the Killiney, Kildare and Druids glen fares to the airport are gobbled up as the trough gets emptied. Left behind is the €40 slops

Base staff are none too pleased because it means they have nothing really nice to offer as a reward for drivers doing them a solid. And to say the drivers are angry would be an understatement. One source described with colourful language the gaffer who was previously so vocal about hackneys has now done an about turn and is using limos as hackneys on the quiet. He believed when you pay €80 base a week you presumed it was a level playing field. Sadly this appears not to be the case.
A little bird told me that on a quiet day even the smaller local fleets are getting raided and tasty morning jobs snapped up to feed the beast. Ashbourne, West, Local Cabs, AtoZ, and even Terenure are not immune to the night-time raid on the airport runs.

Interestingly some customers aren’t happy. They book a taxi and up shows an merc driven by someone in a cheap black suit telling them they have “been upgraded” Suspecting a rat they query the cost, to be told its on the meter and same price as a taxi. Then the driver opens the taximeter app (available on ios or android) on his phone to prove the point. Greater minds than mine would suggest its not legal for a limo to use a meter. They must be right, since one of vincenzos finest was caught using a physical meter in the glovebox and received a fixed penalty. That made the rest switch to the taximeter app (screenshot below). Which at €13.99 is a steal especially since it you decide the fare per km and don’t have any of that meter sealing bother.

One would hope all the drivers are properly insured since hailing app work can be excluded from some limo policies. Perish the thought.

It has not been all plain hurling though. After sitting in rush hour traffic on pearse street watching taxis cruise by in the bus lane intelligent customers have taken to insisting on being sent a taxi when they ask for one. So now its all M50 and points further south for the poor yellow pack lads.

Incidentally the yellow pack name was bestowed on them by a one of the professional chauffeurs. He treats the industry as a commercial business and gets annoyed with the tone being dragged down by 2007 ex hertz rental jaguars. This particular jag has had a succession of job bridge drivers, each successfully worse, with the one constant being the fragrant aroma of nicotine. As the saying goes “theres nothing like quality, and this is nothing like quality”

Vinny gump could never be accused of being top of the class smart but even by his standards this limo lark seems dumb.  Annoying your customers, radio staff and driver bees to the point of departure seems a bit excessive. Surely even he could work out that dropping from a high of 350 taxi drivers to around 125 indicates something is not working.

Could it be the revenue rewards are exceptional? Well 2 of the limo lads were overheard in the T1 airport jax. Being ex coppers you can expect them to exaggerate numbers a bit but it seems 2k for a 5 day week is normal with the gaffer helping himself to 25%.  (side note; jaysus lads nasty suits aside could you at least polish your shoes before leaving home and wash your hands after taking a piss?). 

Entertaining times ahead.
If the NTA does decide to engage in detective work on limos at the airport it will be time to grab your popcorn and sit back for the entertainment. Ex coppers on one side, interviewing ex coppers on the other side. The stuff of legend.
And if the NRC marriage goes ahead how long before those drivers start to notice the juicy runs disappearing? A simple tweak of the software renders the full fat bookings invisible to mere mortal taxi driver screens.
The latest rumour from D12 is certain Limerick punters booking a long run will soon be “upgraded” to a yellow pack limo service. Watch this space…..



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Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 10:46:46 am
Where will it all end?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 10:47:00 am
I guess a 2007 Jag is a small step up from the typical 2006 Lexuseyeseses used by mytaxi who were the first dispatch firm to use clapped out shiteboxes masquerading as limousines to cover taxi fares. Similarly, you may insert the word track before suit as far as mytaxi drivers are concerned.

The London drivers challenged the use of virtual meters by mytaxi (then Hail0) and others a few years back with no success. Apparently it's legal over there despite very similar restrictions on the use of meters as applicable over here. Essentially a virtual meter is not a meter and giving the basis for computation of a fare suffices as far as quoting the fare in advance goes. I don't believe it's ever been challenged here despite mytaxi flooding the cities with these vehicles.

Interestingly, rather than opposing the practice, the service is advertised and promoted by (immigrant) Irish taxi drivers.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: dalymount on February 20, 2019, 10:49:21 am
Ha ha ha breaking me bollox laughing,and STILL the EMPLOYEES will pay,and not have the balls fo fukk Kearns radio back at him ,and go it alone.drivers who cannot find their own work  shoul be ashamed of themselves
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: markmiwurdz on February 20, 2019, 10:50:06 am
Imagine sitting as a passenger in a clapped out Jag in Dorset St in a hurry to catch a flight after ordering a taxi   watchin the taxies flying by your inside... rofl
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 10:51:38 am
Some employment lawyer here is challenging the validity of Deliveroos non-existent contracts with their employees(even though they're not). There's a mention of Revenue demanding to know about PRSI contribs and USC etc. Seemingly, this lawyer is very anxious that Revenue determine who is in fact responsible for contributions if the company is allocating the work via a virtual platform. I haven't a clue how it works but I'm sure my nephew delivering Chinese food every weekend whilst he's in UCD will be a bit tetchy about this.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 10:53:26 am
To be fair, DM... the practice was started by mytaxi, who get a lot more than €80/week from taxi drivers working for them. Irish dispatch firms have to compete, I guess.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: dalymount on February 20, 2019, 10:57:17 am
Surely if The 3 amigos Kearns,Kelly,Ebbs,believe the drivers are their employees,they should be doing their tax,PRSI,USC, returns for them  ?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 11:00:59 am
Does the fruit farmer in Gorey have to pony up for the hired-hands in May and June? All about destroying the gig economy, perhaps? I'm sure the rubbing hands will fail to reflect on their own situations...........only happens to others. The op is very enlightening though...........Limerick indeed.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 11:02:05 am
We work for dispatch firms, in my case mytaxi, but we're not employees in the PAYE sense. UK employment law differs to such an extent that we could be considered employees in the PAYE sense up/over there.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 11:04:13 am
Does the fruit farmer in Gorey have to pony up for the hired-hands in May and June? All about destroying the gig economy, perhaps? I'm sure the rubbing hands will fail to reflect on their own situations...........only happens to others. The op is very enlightening though...........Limerick indeed.

In the UK he would... I gather hopping/fruit picking/etc were initially the intended target of their treating piece workers as a category of employee, in the PAYE sense.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 11:06:12 am
Totally different set-up, I know, but why now is there some eager beaver interested....? Love to hear from someone working for Deliveroo as to how the system works......it does have implications for the likes of Uber or Uber that doesn't operate here despite being based in Limerick c/o Noonan and other elitists.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: dalymount on February 20, 2019, 11:06:35 am
I think Kearns,Kelly,and Ebbs consider the drivers to be their employees,at least when its suits them
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 11:07:18 am
To be fair, I doubt your nephew gives a bollix, LL. The obvious solution is to introduce a withholding tax regime.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: john m on February 20, 2019, 11:08:48 am
Ye were warned on Roys but none of you took notice all willing to chase the BoBo .They will not be happy until they own what you own .
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 11:09:20 am
I think Kearns,Kelly,and Ebbs consider the drivers to be their employees,at least when its suits them

Indeed DM, they employ drivers to work for them as mytaxi employs me to work for it. However, under our taxation legislation I'm allowed to be self-employed.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 11:09:35 am
No, he does, Rats..................and he's very altruistic.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 11:12:21 am
You're the accountant and commerce man..........make what you want of this........

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/deliveroos-courier-contracts-fail-to-deliver-lawyer-warns-905758.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/deliveroos-courier-contracts-fail-to-deliver-lawyer-warns-905758.html)
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 11:15:21 am
Could be implications for those of us who work for mytaxi... as suggested, introducing a withholding tax regime would seem most appropriate.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 11:16:21 am
Roger.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 20, 2019, 11:17:08 am
I've had passengers telling me they got a Mytaxi limo to the Airport and the driver was on minimum wage.He told them his limo company paid him a wage and pocketed the difference per hour.

Anyway why are any of yis surprised that there's fiddling going on.I'd say it's happening in Mytaxi too.Anywhere you have ex-taxi drivers in charge of dispatching work you're gonna get corruption and unfair treatment.Xpert was one of the first companies to grade vehicles.We already know it's only an excuse for giving some drivers more work than others.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 11:19:55 am
No such thing as equality except in the minds of idealists and feminists.........I suggest spraying #metoo on non-Mytaxi cars.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 11:29:30 am
Still, the taxi drivers working for Xpert should revive the old "if it doesn't have a roof sign it's not a taxi" signs Vinny promoted back before entry liberalisation.

Reminds me of a funny story an ex-hackneyman told me back before entry liberalisation. For one reason or another he was going cosying on a taxi for a period and the owner's insurance (presumably Axa) insisted that he join one of the two unions. He approached NTDU and got a list of conditions requiring him to surrender his hackney plate, undertake not to socialise with filthy, stinking hackneymen and such like so he went to the Fed and asked the late John Usher what the conditions were for joining... 60 pounds he was told... do I have to surrender, starts he before being interrupted with the same words, 60 pounds!
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: john m on February 20, 2019, 11:33:08 am
Back on Roys I told you they were operating a logarithm long before they went ambassador .My issue with the BoBo was they were preventing you from getting the required amount of jobs .I needed 10 before midnight to get the bobo had 9 done by 11 oc never got another offer even though I used my second phone to request a taxi .I would of been the nearest driver as I was sittting in my car but I never got the offer .Following week I never Pre registered as the instruction was to register no reference to pre registering and had no problem getting jobs .The system is clouded by tech you have no clue what line of code relates to what drivers .Taxi industry is finished world wide for independent traders except at weekends and events .The dispatchers own the business we gave it to them some unions even invited them in never done anything when the commission went up or the PUC was dropped .
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 11:36:36 am
Did you ever get your Christmas 2014 bonus, erm?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: dalymount on February 20, 2019, 11:45:28 am
They already own their souls,their dignity will follow
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 11:46:50 am
Back on Roys I told you they were operating a logarithm long before they went ambassador .My issue with the BoBo was they were preventing you from getting the required amount of jobs .I needed 10 before midnight to get the bobo had 9 done by 11 oc never got another offer even though I used my second phone to request a taxi .I would of been the nearest driver as I was sittting in my car but I never got the offer .Following week I never Pre registered as the instruction was to register no reference to pre registering and had no problem getting jobs .The system is clouded by tech you have no clue what line of code relates to what drivers .Taxi industry is finished world wide for independent traders except at weekends and events .The dispatchers own the business we gave it to them some unions even invited them in never done anything when the commission went up or the PUC was dropped .


"Many a small thing has been made large by the right kind of advertising.”.............Mark Twain.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: dalymount on February 20, 2019, 11:55:43 am
WHY why why why why. ?????????.... can you NOT  just dispense with these fukking radio scumbags and GET OUT AND GET YOUR OWN WORK ??????????????? Why can you not render these cunts surplas to requirements. ????
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: john m on February 20, 2019, 12:07:51 pm
WHY why why why why. ?????????.... can you NOT  just dispense with these fukking radio scumbags and GET OUT AND GET YOUR OWN WORK ??????????????? Why can you not render these cunts surplas to requirements. ????

Dollymount the public want them .Big Dommo is sitting in the pub drinking a Paddy and pep and he hollers to young O Sullivan "Sullo jump up there and put on RTE for the racing " The Day of Big Dommos funeral he left instructions I was to go into the bookies and place a 500 yoyo bet on the First and last Favs .I placed the bet went on the piss and was joining in a rendition of Noreen Bawn when the first race time was near so I called Young Sullo he is now the manager and asked  for the remote so we could watch the race .

PS .The first fav won @1/1 so we had a long one running on to the fav in the last ,everybody waited till the last race fav was 9/4 jioint we collected put the coin behind the bar and a great night was had by all and Sullo turned off the telly with the remote so we could have a session .Billy the Bastard does a great Elvis and Tommy Two Fingers has a lovely Baratone .
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 12:15:01 pm
I'd like to reduce my reliance on mytaxi, DM. It's not easy for me though. I'll explain how I work. I turn on the application as soon as I'm out of range of my home WIFI in the beautiful seaside resort town of Balbriggan. I drive the old road towards Dublin, gong through Swords Village and onto the old Airport road. When I get to Santry I turn left onto Coolock lane and continue along Oscar Traynor road before turning left onto Barryscourt road, right onto Greencastle road, left onto Glin road, right onto Priorswood road, straight through the roundabout onto Blunden drive, right at the next roundabout to stay on Blunden drive, straight onto Milbrook road, right onto the beautiful avenue in Coolock known as Tonlegee Road, straight onto Oscar Traynor road, straight onto Coolock Lane, left into Santry Village, Straight onto Shantalla road, left onto Beaumont road, left at the roundabout onto Kilmore road, right onto Oscar Traynor road and continue the circuit as given via Barryscourt road. When I finish a job I head back to my Coolock/Santry/Beaumont circuit, picking it up in whichever direction provides the shorter route to Priorswood road. In any event, it self corrects to approaching Priorswood road from Glin road within half a circuit.

I take any app job within reason along my route and I would stop for any respectable enough looking flag if there ever was one, the only exception being at the turn from Glin road to Priorswood road and vice versa for obvious reasons, similarly I won't accept or will cancel any app job in the vicinity of Martin's public house in Priorswood. I generally get eHailed within one circuit and pretty much never get flagged down... back in the late 90s the same circuit was as reliable for a flag down as it now is for a mytaxi job.

What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Jack Meoff on February 20, 2019, 12:15:42 pm
WHY why why why why. ?????????.... can you NOT  just dispense with these fukking radio scumbags and GET OUT AND GET YOUR OWN WORK ??????????????? Why can you not render these cunts surplas to requirements. ????

Dalymount it suits some drivers to be affiliated to a company.
Most of the time the work is cleaner than the shoit you pick up off the street.
The corporate work and hotel work is also very lucrative.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 12:22:56 pm
There's definitely a far higher concentration of scum among street hails since mytaxi came along. No two ways about that, among those not using it are the ones that aren't using it because they're (at best) going to do a runner.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: stonethecrows on February 20, 2019, 12:24:03 pm
Unfortunately the monster has been created both by us but mainly by a thing called "The Age of Technology".

It was always going to happen , street jobs are going to get lesser and lesser so as I've said before it's

"Shit or get off the Pot"
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on February 20, 2019, 12:25:48 pm
Unfortunately the monster has been created both by us but mainly by a thing called "The Age of Technology".

It was always going to happen , street jobs are going to get lesser and lesser so as I've said before it's

"Shit or get off the Pot"
Is the pot an equal opportunity shitter ?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 12:30:22 pm
To be fair, STC, we were going to put all the mean and nasty Irish dispatch firms out of business so we can pay treble or quadruple the freight to the then English (now German... makes you wonder who won the war) dispatch firm. I guess we've always been good European citizens... well, apart from the few decades during which we tried to run our own affairs but you know what I mean... probably.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: stonethecrows on February 20, 2019, 12:31:48 pm
Unfortunately the monster has been created both by us but mainly by a thing called "The Age of Technology".

It was always going to happen , street jobs are going to get lesser and lesser so as I've said before it's

"Shit or get off the Pot"
Is the pot an equal opportunity shitter ?
All Pigs are equal, except some are more equal than others
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 12:32:23 pm
Two feet bad........4 good?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 12:32:49 pm
Orwell?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Jack Meoff on February 20, 2019, 12:35:43 pm
Happy days for the leaving cert
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 12:36:52 pm
Orwell?

Yep........Eric Blair former BBC spy and co-founder of the Fabians with HG Wells and Shaw.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: stonethecrows on February 20, 2019, 12:40:43 pm
Unfortunately the monster has been created both by us but mainly by a thing called "The Age of Technology".

It was always going to happen , street jobs are going to get lesser and lesser so as I've said before it's

"Shit or get off the Pot"
Is the pot an equal opportunity shitter ?
All Pigs are equal, except some are more equal than others
Same as on the Titanic,Women and children first after me.

We are all selfish cnuts , its called mankind
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 12:43:11 pm
Nah..atheists would have us believe that but the Jesuits teach us that most of us would lay down our lives for each other in dire circumstances.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: stonethecrows on February 20, 2019, 12:44:49 pm
Unfortunately the monster has been created both by us but mainly by a thing called "The Age of Technology".

It was always going to happen , street jobs are going to get lesser and lesser so as I've said before it's

"Shit or get off the Pot"
Is the pot an equal opportunity shitter ?
All Pigs are equal, except some are more equal than others
Same as on the Titanic,Women and children first after me.

We are all selfish cnuts , its called mankind

Same boat with The Human Race, its called a race for a reason.

Me poor auld grandparents were midgets and all their lives they struggled to put food on the table .  yay
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 12:46:48 pm
 rofl Woman walking past a pet-shop sees a sign, "Clitoris Licking Frog here today". She b=nervously saunters in and asks, "Is the clit-licker frog here now?"...............pet-shop boy replies, "Bonjour Madame".
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: john m on February 20, 2019, 12:48:59 pm
Yellow Pack Love .Shagnasty said he loved his missus and kids but on his labour day he would drop in to see Jillian the Whore .Bit like you need a ride in a taxi but a ride in a hack will get you there .
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: stonethecrows on February 20, 2019, 12:49:35 pm
Nah..atheists would have us believe that but the Jesuits teach us that most of us would lay down our lives for each other in dire circumstances.
No they wanted you to lie down for something fckn else, cnuts
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 20, 2019, 12:53:47 pm
Not them. They had the best of food, wine and minge on tap. They never needed to go all predator on any kid.......think you'll find it was predatory homosexuals recruited into the lower ranks of the church...some say deliberately. They made their way through the ranks over the yrs but very few if any were Jesuits............walked around with long hair, ear-rings and pussy hanging out of them.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: vandriver on February 20, 2019, 12:56:26 pm
If 40 quid jobs are the slops, I think I'll sign up.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 02:26:34 pm
Ask for Vinny, tell him I sent you and ask for a free trial.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Octavia1 on February 20, 2019, 04:31:41 pm
He who is greedy
Is always in want
                                Poor cnuts
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Shallowhal on February 20, 2019, 04:37:18 pm
Ah Vinny.....bags of sand.....of a Fryday!!
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 04:39:28 pm
To be fair, DMs pulling at least as much with no wireless.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Shallowhal on February 20, 2019, 04:42:55 pm
To be fair, DMs pulling at least as much with no wireless.

....and he's not sharing the donuts with anyone!!
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 20, 2019, 04:45:15 pm
Wouldn't give you the hole outta his donut! Actually, that's not true... he was the first to offer me a lift home from a protest meeting a good few years ago when my car was off the road.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: dalymount on February 20, 2019, 04:51:55 pm
And I wasn't even going to charge ya
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Shallowhal on February 20, 2019, 05:20:02 pm
And I wasn't even going to charge ya

Calm down....vile words from a taximan!!
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: dalymount on February 20, 2019, 05:29:32 pm
Ok sorry I withdraw that,I will fukkin charge him next time
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: silverbullet on February 20, 2019, 11:00:12 pm
Much grumbling among the worker bees up in ballymount due to the switch of focus to yellow pack chauffeurs. Both the taxi driving bees and despatch bees none too pleased with instructions from the Vinny bee. It seems all juicy high fare prebooked work is held aside and only assigned at 8pm. This is when the limo drivers ring in and fill their boots. When they have taken all of the full fat €100 fares they can manage there is slimmer pickings left. All the Killiney, Kildare and Druids glen fares to the airport are gobbled up as the trough gets emptied. Left behind is the €40 slops

Base staff are none too pleased because it means they have nothing really nice to offer as a reward for drivers doing them a solid. And to say the drivers are angry would be an understatement. One source described with colourful language the gaffer who was previously so vocal about hackneys has now done an about turn and is using limos as hackneys on the quiet. He believed when you pay €80 base a week you presumed it was a level playing field. Sadly this appears not to be the case.
A little bird told me that on a quiet day even the smaller local fleets are getting raided and tasty morning jobs snapped up to feed the beast. Ashbourne, West, Local Cabs, AtoZ, and even Terenure are not immune to the night-time raid on the airport runs.

Interestingly some customers aren’t happy. They book a taxi and up shows an merc driven by someone in a cheap black suit telling them they have “been upgraded” Suspecting a rat they query the cost, to be told its on the meter and same price as a taxi. Then the driver opens the taximeter app (available on ios or android) on his phone to prove the point. Greater minds than mine would suggest its not legal for a limo to use a meter. They must be right, since one of vincenzos finest was caught using a physical meter in the glovebox and received a fixed penalty. That made the rest switch to the taximeter app (screenshot below). Which at €13.99 is a steal especially since it you decide the fare per km and don’t have any of that meter sealing bother.

One would hope all the drivers are properly insured since hailing app work can be excluded from some limo policies. Perish the thought.

It has not been all plain hurling though. After sitting in rush hour traffic on pearse street watching taxis cruise by in the bus lane intelligent customers have taken to insisting on being sent a taxi when they ask for one. So now its all M50 and points further south for the poor yellow pack lads.

Incidentally the yellow pack name was bestowed on them by a one of the professional chauffeurs. He treats the industry as a commercial business and gets annoyed with the tone being dragged down by 2007 ex hertz rental jaguars. This particular jag has had a succession of job bridge drivers, each successfully worse, with the one constant being the fragrant aroma of nicotine. As the saying goes “theres nothing like quality, and this is nothing like quality”

Vinny gump could never be accused of being top of the class smart but even by his standards this limo lark seems dumb.  Annoying your customers, radio staff and driver bees to the point of departure seems a bit excessive. Surely even he could work out that dropping from a high of 350 taxi drivers to around 125 indicates something is not working.

Could it be the revenue rewards are exceptional? Well 2 of the limo lads were overheard in the T1 airport jax. Being ex coppers you can expect them to exaggerate numbers a bit but it seems 2k for a 5 day week is normal with the gaffer helping himself to 25%.  (side note; jaysus lads nasty suits aside could you at least polish your shoes before leaving home and wash your hands after taking a piss?). 

Entertaining times ahead.
If the NTA does decide to engage in detective work on limos at the airport it will be time to grab your popcorn and sit back for the entertainment. Ex coppers on one side, interviewing ex coppers on the other side. The stuff of legend.
And if the NRC marriage goes ahead how long before those drivers start to notice the juicy runs disappearing? A simple tweak of the software renders the full fat bookings invisible to mere mortal taxi driver screens.
The latest rumour from D12 is certain Limerick punters booking a long run will soon be “upgraded” to a yellow pack limo service. Watch this space…..



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I'm no xpert  but this reeks of corruption.
And there are still drivers paying freight?
If I was a driver being screwed by a corrupt company owner, I'd consider adding a bit of weight to their considerable  bulk...albeit a few grams.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Belker on February 21, 2019, 04:46:37 am
Much grumbling among the worker bees up in ballymount due to the switch of focus to yellow pack chauffeurs. Both the taxi driving bees and despatch bees none too pleased with instructions from the Vinny bee. It seems all juicy high fare prebooked work is held aside and only assigned at 8pm. This is when the limo drivers ring in and fill their boots. When they have taken all of the full fat €100 fares they can manage there is slimmer pickings left. All the Killiney, Kildare and Druids glen fares to the airport are gobbled up as the trough gets emptied. Left behind is the €40 slops

Base staff are none too pleased because it means they have nothing really nice to offer as a reward for drivers doing them a solid. And to say the drivers are angry would be an understatement. One source described with colourful language the gaffer who was previously so vocal about hackneys has now done an about turn and is using limos as hackneys on the quiet. He believed when you pay €80 base a week you presumed it was a level playing field. Sadly this appears not to be the case.
A little bird told me that on a quiet day even the smaller local fleets are getting raided and tasty morning jobs snapped up to feed the beast. Ashbourne, West, Local Cabs, AtoZ, and even Terenure are not immune to the night-time raid on the airport runs.

Interestingly some customers aren’t happy. They book a taxi and up shows an merc driven by someone in a cheap black suit telling them they have “been upgraded” Suspecting a rat they query the cost, to be told its on the meter and same price as a taxi. Then the driver opens the taximeter app (available on ios or android) on his phone to prove the point. Greater minds than mine would suggest its not legal for a limo to use a meter. They must be right, since one of vincenzos finest was caught using a physical meter in the glovebox and received a fixed penalty. That made the rest switch to the taximeter app (screenshot below). Which at €13.99 is a steal especially since it you decide the fare per km and don’t have any of that meter sealing bother.

One would hope all the drivers are properly insured since hailing app work can be excluded from some limo policies. Perish the thought.

It has not been all plain hurling though. After sitting in rush hour traffic on pearse street watching taxis cruise by in the bus lane intelligent customers have taken to insisting on being sent a taxi when they ask for one. So now its all M50 and points further south for the poor yellow pack lads.

Incidentally the yellow pack name was bestowed on them by a one of the professional chauffeurs. He treats the industry as a commercial business and gets annoyed with the tone being dragged down by 2007 ex hertz rental jaguars. This particular jag has had a succession of job bridge drivers, each successfully worse, with the one constant being the fragrant aroma of nicotine. As the saying goes “theres nothing like quality, and this is nothing like quality”

Vinny gump could never be accused of being top of the class smart but even by his standards this limo lark seems dumb.  Annoying your customers, radio staff and driver bees to the point of departure seems a bit excessive. Surely even he could work out that dropping from a high of 350 taxi drivers to around 125 indicates something is not working.

Could it be the revenue rewards are exceptional? Well 2 of the limo lads were overheard in the T1 airport jax. Being ex coppers you can expect them to exaggerate numbers a bit but it seems 2k for a 5 day week is normal with the gaffer helping himself to 25%.  (side note; jaysus lads nasty suits aside could you at least polish your shoes before leaving home and wash your hands after taking a piss?). 

Entertaining times ahead.
If the NTA does decide to engage in detective work on limos at the airport it will be time to grab your popcorn and sit back for the entertainment. Ex coppers on one side, interviewing ex coppers on the other side. The stuff of legend.
And if the NRC marriage goes ahead how long before those drivers start to notice the juicy runs disappearing? A simple tweak of the software renders the full fat bookings invisible to mere mortal taxi driver screens.
The latest rumour from D12 is certain Limerick punters booking a long run will soon be “upgraded” to a yellow pack limo service. Watch this space….....

Jaysus ! There was a lot of 'If's' and 'Maybe's' in that speech !
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Belker on February 21, 2019, 05:00:01 am
Did you ever get your Christmas 2014 bonus, erm?
Stephen, Behave yourself !
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Belker on February 21, 2019, 05:06:41 am
If 40 quid jobs are the slops, I think I'll sign up.
I was kinda thinking the same myself !
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Belker on February 21, 2019, 05:25:33 am
Vinny Kearns (Expert) and many other Taxi dispatch firms all over the country offer work to Taxi drivers, there is No obligation to any Taxi driver to take up there offer, no one is holding a Gun to anyone's head, the decision fer any Taxi driver is his alone to make.

Vinny Kearns the last I heard from was putting a lorra food on the table of a lotta families and that's a lot more than I can say.

Wheter you work Dispatch or the App's or the street or Mix n Match the choice is yours !
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: dalymount on February 21, 2019, 08:58:04 am
Nobody is disputing that,but what Vinny Kearns,and others like would do well to remember is that these drivers who DO sign up with him,are NOT  his employees,and should NOT be treated as such.Vinny Kearns,and others like him should also remember, that the DRIVERS hire his company for one reason,and one reason only for the purpose of providing work to them.how dare he,or others like him tell drivers what to wear,how much to charge,impose disciplinary action against those who choose to return work because of heavy discounts,instruct the bullys that work under his brand to ride rough shot over independents,be aware that work is foing out the back door to certain croinies while drivers are paying good money.for a fair,and ballanced service and do nothing about it,etc etc
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 21, 2019, 09:50:18 am
Ken would ya ever fuck off with your bullshit.Constantly telling us how great Vinny is but you never worked for Xpert.

And just to be clear they put no food on anyone's table except renters who wouldnt otherwise be able to get on the road.I own my plate and don't feel I need to sticker up to survive.Even though many of us use apps and radio companies we really don't need to.Most of the taxi ranks are still there and can provide a decent wage if ya know where to work.

Making it out like we need these guys telling us what discounts we should give is a bit pathetic IMO.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: stonethecrows on February 21, 2019, 10:30:57 am
I used to play cards with Vinny's Dad in Val Hatton's about 40 years ago, very nice man.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: dalymount on February 21, 2019, 10:35:55 am
My sentiments mfh we DONT fukking need them
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 21, 2019, 11:53:45 am
I'm no xpert  but this reeks of corruption.
And there are still drivers paying freight?
If I was a driver being screwed by a corrupt company owner, I'd consider adding a bit of weight to their considerable  bulk...albeit a few grams.

I'd say Bill's shitting himself!
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 21, 2019, 11:59:24 am
Isn't he the recruitment guy in Mytaxi for all limo heaps?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Jack Meoff on February 21, 2019, 12:39:38 pm
Is yer man Christy Humphrey’s still on the screen ?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: dalymount on February 21, 2019, 01:54:58 pm
Git ,?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: silverbullet on February 21, 2019, 11:10:08 pm
Vinny Kearns (Expert) and many other Taxi dispatch firms all over the country offer work to Taxi drivers, there is No obligation to any Taxi driver to take up there offer, no one is holding a Gun to anyone's head, the decision fer any Taxi driver is his alone to make.

Vinny Kearns the last I heard from was putting a lorra food on the table of a lotta families and that's a lot more than I can say.

Wheter you work Dispatch or the App's or the street or Mix n Match the choice is yours !
Vinny Kearns the last I heard from was putting a lorra food on the table of a lotta families and that's a lot more than I can say.

Who's he driving for?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: silverbullet on February 21, 2019, 11:18:25 pm
I'm no xpert  but this reeks of corruption.
And there are still drivers paying freight?
If I was a driver being screwed by a corrupt company owner, I'd consider adding a bit of weight to their considerable  bulk...albeit a few grams.

I'd say Bill's shitting himself!
Bill owns nothing.
This guy's in charge: About
Alan Fox was born in 1975 and the first directorship we have on file was in 2018 at Mytaxi Network Ireland Limited. Their most recent directorship is with Mytaxi Network Ireland Limited . This company has been around since 05 Mar 2012.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Belker on February 22, 2019, 05:07:01 am
Ken would ya ever fuck off with your bullshit.Constantly telling us how great Vinny is but you never worked for Xpert.

And just to be clear they put no food on anyone's table except renters who wouldnt otherwise be able to get on the road.I own my plate and don't feel I need to sticker up to survive.Even though many of us use apps and radio companies we really don't need to.Most of the taxi ranks are still there and can provide a decent wage if ya know where to work.

Making it out like we need these guys telling us what discounts we should give is a bit pathetic IMO.
No, I never worked fer Xpert, but I did work with a dispatch firm fer 9 years and I enjoyed my time there, it was my decision to join them and also my decision to leave them, then I went MyTaxi and street only and then became an ambassador because I believed I could make better coin as an ambassador, (but No Bed logo's) everything I did was MY DECISION !
Just like every other Taxi driver can make up his own mind about how he works.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Belker on February 22, 2019, 05:09:29 am
......I turn on the application as soon as I'm out of range of my home WIFI in the beautiful seaside resort town of Balbriggan....
Why when 'out of range of home wi-fi' ?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 22, 2019, 11:37:07 am
Alan Fox doesn't own anything either. He's an employed director. Bill's the man who keeps drivers in line, so I'm told.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: silverbullet on February 22, 2019, 03:00:22 pm
Alan Fox doesn't own anything either. He's an employed director. Bill's the man who keeps drivers in line, so I'm told.
Odd he's not mentioned under any of the Irish Directorships.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: stonethecrows on February 22, 2019, 03:16:54 pm
Looks like its 100% Germin, info got through a friend from a company search site (AVAILABLE if you PAY)

INTELLIGENT APPS GMBH EUR 782,821 ORDINARY   1 100

Directors (which don't mean they own the shop !)
FLORIAN AGTHE,  22763 HAMBURG, GERMANY
MICHAEL BLUETHMANN,  22337 HAMBURG, GERMANY
ANDREW BATTY,  SANDHURST BERKSHIRE, GU47 9AG UNITED KINGDOM
ALAN FOX, BALLINTEER DUBLIN 16, D16 F5W9 IRELAND

Oh yeah,address line 1 has been removed in case any of you are thinking of making a visit to do a protest !
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: silverbullet on February 22, 2019, 03:20:04 pm
Looks like its 100% Germin, info got through a friend from a company search site (AVAILABLE if you PAY)

INTELLIGENT APPS GMBH EUR 782,821 ORDINARY   1 100

Directors (which don't mean they own the shop !)
FLORIAN AGTHE,  22763 HAMBURG, GERMANY
MICHAEL BLUETHMANN,  22337 HAMBURG, GERMANY
ANDREW BATTY,  SANDHURST BERKSHIRE, GU47 9AG UNITED KINGDOM
ALAN FOX, BALLINTEER DUBLIN 16, D16 F5W9 IRELAND

Oh yeah,address line 1 has been removed in case any of you are thinking of making a visit to do a protest !
I Voss in Hamburg:

(https://i.postimg.cc/SjmCk11S/2008-04-26-15-40-25-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SjmCk11S)
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Vikkiz on February 22, 2019, 05:18:28 pm
I love hamburgers
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Deets on February 22, 2019, 07:01:27 pm
We work for dispatch firms, in my case mytaxi, but we're not employees in the PAYE sense. UK employment law differs to such an extent that we could be considered employees in the PAYE sense up/over there.

I dont think that UK employment law differs that much from our own, its more so that there hasn't been a legal case here as yet challenging the whole idea of fake contractors who are really employees. The likes of Deliveroo telling lads they are contractors and not employees but then telling them they can't work for any other delivery service is not conducive to their argument that they employ contractors. If you're a contractor then how can you be denied the right to work for whatever contracts you want? That is exactly what Deliveroo is doing.

Revenue are currently targetting the construction sector for this where there are tens of thousands of lads working as 'contractors' who don't meet any of the tests to actually be a contractor. The State is losing millions in employer PRSI payments because of this fake contractor malarkey. The contractors themselves are losing holiday pay, sick pay and a host of other benefits of being a PAYE worker. Its a scam pure and simple and Revenue will catch up with it when they are being left out of pocket.

In any case EU law supercedes both UK and Irish law so this is where it will all end up. But I do see a day when the entire contractor house of cards is going to topple.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 23, 2019, 01:22:01 pm
Odd he's not mentioned under any of the Irish Directorships.

It's not. He's not employed as a director... assuming you're talking about Bill.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 23, 2019, 01:23:46 pm
Oh yeah,address line 1 has been removed in case any of you are thinking of making a visit to do a protest !

Maybe you should have removed the Eircode?
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 23, 2019, 01:25:44 pm
We work for dispatch firms, in my case mytaxi, but we're not employees in the PAYE sense. UK employment law differs to such an extent that we could be considered employees in the PAYE sense up/over there.

I dont think that UK employment law differs that much from our own

It does. They have a third category between employed and self-employed that we don't have (yet).... defined as "worker" or some such.
Title: Re: Yellow pack limo v Taxi
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on February 27, 2019, 12:47:47 am
Oh yeah,address line 1 has been removed in case any of you are thinking of making a visit to do a protest !

Maybe you should have removed the Eircode?
lol