Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Rat Catcher on February 23, 2019, 02:56:38 pm
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I see our so-called representative bodies will be going head to head with the likes of Minister Ross, NTA and dispatch firms such as mytaxi and Xpert before the joint committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport up above in the Oireachtas on Wednesday.
The end is nigh!
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What do we want?.....more taxis!!
When do we want them?....as soon as we help them pass their test and give them a couple o bags o sand!!
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Whats the purpose of the meeting ratzer ?
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To discuss rural transport, particularly the perceived need for P2P rideshare.
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Uber's ride-sharing plans for Ireland may have suffered their final setback
The transport watchdog has poured cold water on the tech company’s plans for a pilot in Limerick. Jul 28th 2017
The company has made four submissions to the NTA that focus on how Uber can improve transport in Ireland, but until recently the firm had not received a written response.
However in a letter addressing the US tech giant’s request to run a pilot in Limerick, the NTA stated that the scheme was “undesirable” and would cause unfair competition to licensed taxis.
what has changed since july 2017 that could possibly mean we see uber ride share introduced??
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I was reading an interview done with tommy grangegorman a while back.
he was saying there'd been a week long deadlock in the deregulation negotiations.
a few of the union heads went in to find out what the story was and then he got a call that night to say the industry was being totally deregulated.
priceless stuff.
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Uber's ride-sharing plans for Ireland may have suffered their final setback
The transport watchdog has poured cold water on the tech company’s plans for a pilot in Limerick. Jul 28th 2017
The company has made four submissions to the NTA that focus on how Uber can improve transport in Ireland, but until recently the firm had not received a written response.
However in a letter addressing the US tech giant’s request to run a pilot in Limerick, the NTA stated that the scheme was “undesirable” and would cause unfair competition to licensed taxis.
what has changed since july 2017 that could possibly mean we see uber ride share introduced??
Nothing. The dogs in the street and their wives know what's coming........but there's a few yrs left in the cities yet.
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what has changed since july 2017 that could possibly mean we see uber ride share introduced??
mytaxi has some HSE work... getting that work covered is a matter of life and death. Also, mytaxi has successfully encouraged taxi/hackney/clapped out shitebox masquerading as limousine drivers from rural areas to work in the cities thereby depriving rural areas of a service and creating a "problem" it can solve with FreeShare, FreeRural or whatever.
I guess if mytaxi/moovel/Jurbey/FreeP2P rideshare is deemed desirable they would have to allow other firms compete on equal terms.
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very quiet night in the town i was working last night, uber wouldn't have made much.
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Would mytaxi have made much or could it have spared drivers to cover patient/drunk transfers in one of the big cities if it had drivers?
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id say taxis would make more in the town using ranks and street hails as they are visible and moving around, people just want to get home asap, they dont usually care about the cost. i got 80 euro for a 60 euro fare, i said 60 was ok but they insisted as they were delighted to get a lift home, some taxis refused them as it was a long journey.
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What about the hackneys and clapped out shiteboxes masquerading as limousines that mytaxi use up above in Dublin... would they be able to use ranks and accept street hails in your town? Would the P2P rideshare cars advocated by mytaxi/moovel/Hail0/Jurbey/FreeLift or whatever it's called these days be able to use ranks and accept street hails?
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I got donabate meself last nite,fare 42-euro,yer man was Brahams and lyst ,leave it at 70 says he,so I duly obliged
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No RC, the hackneys and clapped out shiteboxes masquerading as limousines that mytaxi use up above in Dublin would not be able to use ranks and accept street hails in my town? alsoP2P rideshare cars advocated by mytaxi/moovel/Hail0/Jurbey/FreeLift would not be able to use ranks or be hailed on the street.
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I was reading an interview done with tommy grangegorman a while back.
he was saying there'd been a week long deadlock in the deregulation negotiations.
a few of the union heads went in to find out what the story was and then he got a call that night to say the industry was being totally deregulated.
priceless stuff.
I wonder did he share the knowledge with his lickspittle? 8)
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I was reading an interview done with tommy grangegorman a while back.
he was saying there'd been a week long deadlock in the deregulation negotiations.
a few of the union heads went in to find out what the story was and then he got a call that night to say the industry was being totally deregulated.
priceless stuff.
I wonder did he share the knowledge with his lickspittle? 8)
Insider info.
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Committee meeting ...www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qIg9pEjsm8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qIg9pEjsm8#)
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https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0227/1033124-nta-rural-travel/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0227/1033124-nta-rural-travel/)
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Interesting.
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Taxi driver reps gonba propose this as a solution....and talk of subsidies.
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Taxi driver reps gonba propose this as a solution....and talk of subsidies.
Times are hard here in Dublin, any chance of a few quid for us poor cnuts as well
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Taxi driver reps gonba propose this as a solution....and talk of subsidies.
Tune named in one.
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https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/uber-style-transport-regime-could-lead-to-assaults-rape-or-even-murder-taxi-driver-group-says-907422.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/uber-style-transport-regime-could-lead-to-assaults-rape-or-even-murder-taxi-driver-group-says-907422.html)
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i have been saying it for years, it is insurance cost that is stopping a lot of people entering the taxi game, if it was 2 or 3,000 euro it would be ok but 7-12,000 euro is a non runner for most people who would like to set up a taxi service. but the insurance companies are running riot here the last few years, there is supposed to be a rule that prohibits insurers asking for so much money for insurance but nothing is been done about it, i was quoted 12,000 euro(third party fire and theft) for my first year and the irish insurance federation allowed RSA to give me such a quote.
shane ross was asked to help me, he rang me and said his office would try to help, he or his office didnt do a thing. i managed to get a quote of 6,500 in the end from AXA but through no help of the insurance federation or ross.
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i have been saying it for years, it is insurance cost that is stopping a lot of people entering the taxi game, if it was 2 or 3,000 euro it would be ok but 7-12,000 euro is a non runner for most people who would like to set up a taxi service. but the insurance companies are running riot here the last few years, there is supposed to be a rule that prohibits insurers asking for so much money for insurance but nothing is been done about it, i was quoted 12,000 euro(third party fire and theft) for my first year and the irish insurance federation allowed RSA to give me such a quote.
shane ross was asked to help me, he rang me and said his office would try to help, he or his office didnt do a thing. i managed to get a quote of 6,500 in the end from AXA but through no help of the insurance federation or ross.
1990 I think the insurance companies are probably bound by law to provide us all with a quote, the fact that it is a fckn crazy figure does not matter , in other words they have not refused you , they only want to screw the fcuk out of you and that appears to be allowed.
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Declined Cases Agreement
What can I do if I am unable to obtain motor insurance?
Insurance Ireland operates a Declined Cases Agreement, which is adhered to by all motor insurers in Ireland.
Under the agreement, the insurance market will not refuse to provide insurance to an individual seeking insurance, if he/she has approached at least three insurers and has not been able to obtain cover from them. In general, the insurer first approached will be required to provide the individual with a quote. It is therefore important that the proposer keeps a careful note of the order in which he/she approached each of the three companies.
Where an individual has held a policy within the previous three years, the insurance company concerned is obliged to provide the individual with a quotation. Again this is subject to the proviso that refusals have been received from three insurers (of which the previous insurer may be one).
The only grounds on which an insurer can refuse cover are where to provide insurance would be contrary to public interest.
The agreement is administered by a Committee made up of representatives of each of the companies who have signed the agreement. The Committee also includes a representative of the Consumers’ Association of Ireland and the Financial Services Ombudsman’s Bureau as external observers. If it is impossible to identify which insurer was the first approached for a quote, then a rota of insurers comes into effect and the Committee allocates the risk to the next insurer on the rota.
The Committee can also decide whether a quote is so high or the terms so excessive as to make the quote tantamount to a refusal, in which case it will review the matter.
12,000 euro is a quote that is so high as to make the quote tantamount to a refusal in my opinion.
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Declined Cases Agreement
What can I do if I am unable to obtain motor insurance?
Insurance Ireland operates a Declined Cases Agreement, which is adhered to by all motor insurers in Ireland.
Under the agreement, the insurance market will not refuse to provide insurance to an individual seeking insurance, if he/she has approached at least three insurers and has not been able to obtain cover from them. In general, the insurer first approached will be required to provide the individual with a quote. It is therefore important that the proposer keeps a careful note of the order in which he/she approached each of the three companies.
Where an individual has held a policy within the previous three years, the insurance company concerned is obliged to provide the individual with a quotation. Again this is subject to the proviso that refusals have been received from three insurers (of which the previous insurer may be one).
The only grounds on which an insurer can refuse cover are where to provide insurance would be contrary to public interest.
The agreement is administered by a Committee made up of representatives of each of the companies who have signed the agreement. The Committee also includes a representative of the Consumers’ Association of Ireland and the Financial Services Ombudsman’s Bureau as external observers. If it is impossible to identify which insurer was the first approached for a quote, then a rota of insurers comes into effect and the Committee allocates the risk to the next insurer on the rota.
The Committee can also decide whether a quote is so high or the terms so excessive as to make the quote tantamount to a refusal, in which case it will review the matter.
12,000 euro is a quote that is so high as to make the quote tantamount to a refusal in my opinion.
The last line is where you went wrong .Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion Insurance companies rule OK .
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oh I know that. the legal eagles also rule the country. that is why you get 18,000 + for a fake whiplash claim, and nothing is being done about it.
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Look on the bright side 1990 if your insurance was 2k like mine you'd be sitting around for an hour between jobs because there are too many taxis.For as long as mine is relatively cheap I won't be whinging too much.
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mine is a lot less now and high insurance keeps others from competing with us, that is good for a little while then you have uber ride share being promoted because of lack of taxis. i would prefer a few new taxis entering the market than any tom dick or harry with a phone and a car to be operating as a taxi.
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The Committee can also decide whether a quote is so high or the terms so excessive as to make the quote tantamount to a refusal, in which case it will review the matter.
this is how I imagine the Committee reviewing such matters.
0:33-0:40
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No offence but unless you worked for less than a tenner an hour during the recession you have no idea what you are asking for.When I say a tenner an hour that's the average over the day.Some days you'd take 30 quid between 8am and 1pm.No exaggeration,and I knew where the work was but there were just too many other taxi lads doing the exact same thing.
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6 months before i started in the game in 2016, i got a quote of 1,700 TPFT and 2,500 fully comp, from Brian J pearse through liberty, 6 months later BJP told me i would be lucky to pay under 10,000 euro. i had been driving 13 years with a clean licence and no points.
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Pray that insurance doesn't go so low again.Low insurance means more drivers.According to everyone on here who never sat the taxi test it's really easy.
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the taxi test is far from easy.
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Well if its far from easy,id love to know how our African,eastern European,and Indian friends are passing it,considering some of them cannot even speak English there's no doubt in my mind,it all comes back to the immigrant council of Ireland which the politicians ate afraid of their shite of
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Don't like the name "Immigrant council of Ireland" , conjures up vision that their is actually a council full of immigrants.
Better off calling it "The Dirty hungry Bastards from overseas Council"
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The fact is,loads of them ARE immigrants on that council.politicians know if they say ANYTHING derogatory about immigrants,they are putting their careers on the line.an example would be the mayor of naas a few years back simply said he didnt like having to deal with Nigerians as he found them to be a little bit aggressive. Within 5 days the man had to resign,the bleeding hearts brigade were all over him like a rah,and supported by the immigrant council of Ireland
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May have said before, I don't think we will ever hear of immigrant being done for "Racism against an Irish Person"
God , our parents would turn in their graves if they knew what is happening to our country
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How would the 15km from the village of a population od less than 1,000 people work? They will be picking people up in most large towns and cities. Stupid idea. It wont happen.
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I think taxi drivers need to change this 5 euro a fare culture
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How would the 15km from the village of a population od less than 1,000 people work? They will be picking people up in most large towns and cities. Stupid idea. It wont happen.
That sort of wording is too ambiguous and in reality if such a practice is allowed it can and will never be policed...not even properly...never!!
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I agree shallowhal. The nta would need to employ a load more inspectors.
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And excluding the elderly who might use the service.....who's gonna drive these drunk people who may possibly be over the limit the next morning to work?
Sort of reminds me of the euromillions ad where Donal(who bought the island for Ireland) says...."ah sure...we'll figure it out!!"
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They'll all end up working for mytaxi, covering your work at discount rates.
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The fact is,loads of them ARE immigrants on that council.politicians know if they say ANYTHING derogatory about immigrants,they are putting their careers on the line.an example would be the mayor of naas a few years back simply said he didnt like having to deal with Nigerians as he found them to be a little bit aggressive. Within 5 days the man had to resign,the bleeding hearts brigade were all over him like a rah,and supported by the immigrant council of Ireland
The old 11 bus route from Wadelai to Kilmacud used to stop on Apian Way there near Leeson Park(Embassy). I remember getting it back into town from having been up at The Gem motorcycle place leaving me bike in for a service. The driver was shocked as I flagged him down on Apian.........."Sorry pal, been a while since I had a whitey stop me on this road." That was back in the early noughties. "Won't be long before he's driving this bus mate", says I.
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Bought my LC 350 from The Gem in Santry....was trying to flog me a 250N Wetdream....what was he thinking!!!
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The fact is,loads of them ARE immigrants on that council.politicians know if they say ANYTHING derogatory about immigrants,they are putting their careers on the line.an example would be the mayor of naas a few years back simply said he didnt like having to deal with Nigerians as he found them to be a little bit aggressive. Within 5 days the man had to resign,the bleeding hearts brigade were all over him like a rah,and supported by the immigrant council of Ireland
The old 11 bus route from Wadelai to Kilmacud used to stop on Apian Way there near Leeson Park(Embassy). I remember getting it back into town from having been up at The Gem motorcycle place leaving me bike in for a service. The driver was shocked as I flagged him down on Apian.........."Sorry pal, been a while since I had a whitey stop me on this road." That was back in the early noughties. "Won't be long before he's driving this bus mate", says I.
Nigerian Embassy in Leeson Park.
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Ah..............Bisto.
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Ah..............Bisto.
Adeboya!
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Watched this on Tv this morning .Jim Waldron done well .Looks like the NTA are willing to pay ALL the insurance on a monthly basis for approved drivers .Sounds like a bit of a pole pulling exercize .Yer one from transport said some other rural transport inishitives had a low uptake sounds like they are trying to flog a service nobody wants or needs .As I suspected all along this is more about moving school kids shutins and pensioners that young or old people who already possess good drunk driving skills .
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Watched this on Tv this morning .Jim Waldron done well .Looks like the NTA are willing to pay ALL the insurance on a monthly basis for approved drivers .Sounds like a bit of a pole pulling exercize .Yer one from transport said some other rural transport inishitives had a low uptake sounds like they are trying to flog a service nobody wants or needs .As I suspected all along this is more about moving school kids shutins and pensioners that young or old people who already possess good drunk driving skills .
State aid is illegal.
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Watched this on Tv this morning .Jim Waldron done well .Looks like the NTA are willing to pay ALL the insurance on a monthly basis for approved drivers .Sounds like a bit of a pole pulling exercize .Yer one from transport said some other rural transport inishitives had a low uptake sounds like they are trying to flog a service nobody wants or needs .As I suspected all along this is more about moving school kids shutins and pensioners that young or old people who already possess good drunk driving skills .
Could the NTA be playing cute with this initiative? Maybe they're playing the long game to keep Uber/rideshare out of Ireland. If rideshare comes in, it'll be a huge increase in workload for them for little financial reward. 20,000 taxi drivers is manageable whereas 200,000 people driving their mammy's Corolla for profit is the stuff of nightmares!
Spending 100-300k on insurance for some country bumpkins to prove it's a stupid idea could be just 'sleight of hand' on their part? Pretending to be interested but just kicking the can down the road? Uber can't get a look-in while this trial is ongoing.
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Insured...until there's a claim from a Drunk or the piss and Vicks brigade.
Can these people operate without licences for hire or reward?
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Insured...until there's a claim from a Drunk or the piss and Vicks brigade.
Can these people operate without licences for hire or reward?
Talk of a local area licence if you know the pub the church and Lidil you should be ok to get a licence .
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I'd say NTA will leave regulation of rideshare to mytaxi et al if/when it is introduced.
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Sometimes I dont know if you lot are serious about rideshare or not ? Are you seriously telling me that if the NTA agreed to rideshare you would just roll over and die ?- what kind of fukking men are you at all ? Although thats a stupid question ,you have already shown what kind of menmoney you are when you roll overand take shite from your EMPLOYERS ,Kearns,Kelly,and Ebbs.taxi drivers have no balls this has been proven time,and time,again.I would hate to be relying on support from taxi drivers if I was ever in trouble
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Half of us (not me) have our cars plastered with advertisements for mytaxi, the firm that states it's primary objective as to enhance "the public transit system in your city with a dynamic flexible ridesharing solution". (https://www.moovel.com/en (https://www.moovel.com/en))
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Its like asking turkeys to vote for Christmas rat.the drivers are more rhen willing to give up their right to operate independently,and because of their willingness,in the event of time,they will also give up MY right to operate independently.the upshot of all this will be, that it will become compulsory to align
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Divide and conquer...
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Id say in this case,its unite and conquer. Thats the strategy being adopted to gain a dominant market position by the dispatcher,and when that happens,you will no longer have the right to work independently
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You'll be lucky to have a right to work at all... Let me remind you of the firm's mission statement:
moovel on-demand enhances the public transit system in your city with a dynamic flexible ridesharing solution (https://www.moovel.com/en (https://www.moovel.com/en))
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