Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: silverbullet on October 27, 2019, 04:31:31 PM
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Jeez, why doesn't he just go the long way like the rest of us lol
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Is he a Keshie?
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He's pre de-reg, an A badge.
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Gives Prius drivers a bad name!! lol
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Gives Prius drivers a bad name!! lol
A worser name you mean.
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I hate when the fukkers is Irish, I'd have went to town on him if he was foreign, now I can't really say anything except fukk him
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I wonder if one of the other offences Mo is charged with is wearing a cowboy hat?
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I wonder if one of the other offences Mo is charged with is wearing a cowboy hat?
Nothing wrong with cowboy hats hal, ive 5 of them
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I wonder if one of the other offences Mo is charged with is wearing a cowboy hat?
Nothing wrong with cowboy hats hal, ive 5 of them
You should get the boots to match !
I would recommend Laredo (the real Mc Coy) cowboy boots, uncomfortable to walk too far in, but very comfortable to drive with as the wedged heel keeps more of your heel on the floor. Available new on ebay fer about 150 Euro (500 in city center stores) and if'n your using the UK to US shoe size chart, go up an extra half size. As in if'n your a size 10 then that's a US 10.5, but go to 11 and if'n that happens to be too big then wear an extra pair of socks.
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Gives Prius drivers a bad name!! lol
Plus he doesn’t need the cash for fuel that badly.
Anyway, fuk him, he cheated and got caught.
The Digitax meters were recalled because the date on the meter could be changed. I wonder what day they picked??
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I've never paid for a newspaper and probably won't start now.How did he get caught?
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A Do-Gooder here........that's how..sending pms is a not very clever lads.
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A Do-Gooder here........that's how..sending pms is a not very clever lads.
Ye wha?
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Did anyone read the full article?
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Did anyone read the full article?
No, the print is too small
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Did anyone read the full article?
It's a popular publication so I'm going to guess yes.
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Nta were tipped off
They did a sting job on him and got printed price
They then took his meter and found he overcharged 250 times
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do these fraudsters get a fine or are their licences taken from them?
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I think it's a fixed penalty offence... €40 ticket?
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I think it's a fixed penalty offence... €40 ticket?
€40 ticket multiplied by 250 times, fingers crossed, is €10,000 fine. Good enough for the sham
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Gives Prius drivers a bad name!! lol
Plus he doesn’t need the cash for fuel that badly.
Anyway, fuk him, he cheated and got caught.
The Digitax meters were recalled because the date on the meter could be changed. I wonder what day they picked??
My mate Tomo had his digitax meter updated FOC.
There's no charge for the meter reseal.
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There are allegedly 400 meters operating with the remote control.
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I heard he co-operated and rolled over on the 400 other co-conspirators.
he'll do six months in a minimum security prison and then go in to the witness protection programme for taxi drivers, the fitness protection programme. fat cunt.
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rofl
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That fat fuk looks well protected from fitness!!
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Car licence expires May 2020
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I'd say the 250 is based on assumptions that would be unlikely to be ascertainable beyond reasonable doubt.
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I'd say the 250 is based on assumptions that would be unlikely to be ascertainable beyond reasonable doubt.
I'm not too sure about that, if'n the forces that be had a receipt roll long enough to print off all his transactions from his meter and see how many of the 250 were done on tariff 3 ??
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I'd say the 250 is based on assumptions that would be unlikely to be ascertainable beyond reasonable doubt.
I'm not too sure about that, if'n the forces that be had a receipt roll long enough to print off all his transactions from his meter and see how many of the 250 were done on tariff 3 ??
Exactly they went through his meter
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Did anyone read the full article?
Just finished it.
Only one charged so far.
Meters have been recalled and given software updates.
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Ok thanks.400 drivers would have been a good story if it was true.
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I'd say the 250 is based on assumptions that would be unlikely to be ascertainable beyond reasonable doubt.
I'm not too sure about that, if'n the forces that be had a receipt roll long enough to print off all his transactions from his meter and see how many of the 250 were done on tariff 3 ??
Exactly they went through his meter
The meter records can be downloaded from the time of installation, hence the software updates on a certain brand of meter.
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The meter data can only confirm that the meter recorded the fares incorrectly which is probably a single fixed penalty offence attracting a c.€40 fine. It can't prove what each client paid, witnesses would be required for that.
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The meter data can only confirm that the meter recorded the fares incorrectly which is probably a single fixed penalty offence attracting a c.€40 fine. It can't prove what each client paid, witnesses would be required for that.
Inference may be drawn since he admitted guilt M'Lud!
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Inference isn't proof. More likely that he'll agree to plead guilty to a sample charge or two.
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Inference isn't proof. More likely that he'll agree to plead guilty to a sample charge or two.
Guilty plea plus mitigation of financial trouble, separated, drink and or drug problems should get it down to a €40 fine.
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The meter data can only confirm that the meter recorded the fares incorrectly which is probably a single fixed penalty offence attracting a c.€40 fine. It can't prove what each client paid, witnesses would be required for that.
The meter receipts will show the date and what tariff was charged.
I'm guessing that he had his meter doctored to run on tariff 3 constantly ??
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Provided the receipts are collected from clients who confirm they paid the amount shown. If they are merely collected from the meter or the ashtray in the car there is no proof that the client was asked for, or paid, the amounts recorded.
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It does appear that he has admitted Guilt
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Apparently so... as FDS used to remind us, there's a reason we drive cabs for a living!
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Life is too short an hard enough without looking over yur shoulders......
Bottle fed No tit as a baby poor cnut....
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That particular meter allowed you to add extra extras on, so any fare that had over €9 in extras would be deemed to have been overcharged. All taken from his meter of course
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Saw yer man on the quays yesterday with Xpert stickers on his car.Surely If this story was true Vinny would have booted him out.Unless of course he's ex Xpert?Or renting from Vinny?Very odd.
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Two different meter brands were targeted.
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Two different meter brands were targeted.
What was t'udder one.....i'm sweatin here...tell us ffs!!
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Two different meter brands were targeted.
What was t'udder one.....i'm sweatin here...tell us ffs!!
AFAIK Aquila and two Digitax models.
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Two different meter brands were targeted.
What was t'udder one.....i'm sweatin here...tell us ffs!!
AFAIK Aquila and two Digitax models.
Phew!!
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this one I think.
https://www.aquila-electronics.co.uk/products/taximeters/ttiny/ (https://www.aquila-electronics.co.uk/products/taximeters/ttiny/)
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Only 750 fine...fukin gobshite.Probably an audit on the way too..
From the journal...
Taxi driver used remote control to add €9 onto fares without passenger knowing
He was fined €750 today for doing this 280 times.
9 minutes ago 1,609 6
A TAXI DRIVER ripped off passengers 280 times by secretly using a remote control to add €9 to fares without their knowledge, a court has heard.
Dublin District Court heard today that the scam unravelled when a tip-off led to one driver, followed by a recall of 206 other taximeters with which the remote device was compatible.
Judge Anthony Halpin said the amount of over-charging could have been “colossal”.
Robert Griffin, 66, of Maplewood Park, Springfield in Tallaght, was fined €750 after he pleaded guilty to 280 counts of over-charging contrary to the Taxi Regulation Act.
He was accused of using a concealed remote control device 20 times a week from 4 February until 10 May this year.
He was prosecuted following an investigation by the National Transport Authority (NTA) which discovered he covertly topped up the final fare on the taximeters.
The increase was added to the final fare on the completion of passengers’ journeys.
NTA inspector Liam Kavanagh told Judge Anthony Halpin that earlier this year he received information that a number of taxis were over-charging passengers using the remote device which was linked to some meters.
A confidential source led him to a taxi rank at Tallaght Hospital where the defendant was sitting in his car, he said.
Kavanagh told the court he carried out a routine inspection and found the remote control device in the driver’s door.
He suspected an offence had been committed and advised Griffin to hand it over.
“He admitted he had used the remote control to add extras to taxi fares,” the inspector said.
He was “visibly shaken” and told the NTA official he was not well.
Kavanagh told Judge Halpin he did not want to cause the driver too much upset at the rank and told him they could meet at the NTA inspection centre the following day, “and leave it until emotions had calmed down”.
Griffin agreed and when he went there his meter was inspected by the taxi metrology service. He was cautioned by the inspector and made full admissions that he used the remote device to add to fares.
Kavanagh explained that Griffin kept the remote fixed to the driver’s door with Velcro and as he drove along he pressed it, increasing the fare by €9 per journey.
The court heard some other drivers who used the device had kept it between their legs.
“The scam, for want of a better word, was closed down,” Kavanagh said.
As a result of specific information, Griffin had been targeted but his co-operation was “key” to the success of the operation, shortening it by a number of months, the court was told.
The NTA was aware of the sources of the devices, the court heard.
“The mind boggles,” remarked Judge Halpin after the facts were presented.
The NTA identified 206 taximeters that were sensitive to the remote, the court was told. They have been recalled for new software.
Not all of the recalled meters were linked to criminal offences but, the inspector added, they were all, “sensitive to this device”.
In pleas for leniency, the defence said Griffin, a grandfather, had heart issues and other health problems which were of grave concern. He did not give evidence or address the court at his hearing today.
He was not currently working and decided because of his health and this case not to operate a taxi, “and does not know if he will ever go back”, his solicitor told the court.
Griffin offered a full apology and accepted full responsibility, the solicitor submitted.
The offence carried a maximum possible fine of €4,000 and there were 280 counts on the summon, the court was told.
Finalising the case, Judge Halpin said the aggravating feature was the over-charging of people and use of the remote to bypass the proper measurement of fares by the taximeter.
Griffin had no prior convictions.
The judge said he was loath to look for intervention of the Probation Service because he did not think Griffin would be able to do community service work, so he was imposing a fine.
One feature that helped the accused in the measurement of the sanction was his co-operation with the NTA, the judge explained.
This allowed 206 other taxis to be checked out.
The court did not have evidence that all of them were involved “but”, Judge Halpin said, “many of them were”. The device deceived people, he also said.
Fining him €750, he noted Griffin’s early guilty plea and he accepted these proceedings gave rise to some of his health problems. He has six months to pay the fine.
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A monkey and a half with six moths to pay seems reasonable, fair play. No mention of costs though and the solicitor probably cost him a few ton cash in hand.
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Did the extras not show on the final total?Seems like an odd way to make your money.
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Just tryin harder is our Mr G.
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66 years old so he probably has a couple of pensions..
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knacker.
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Bit strong, Doc. Taximen have been fiddling meters for as long as we've had meters. One could say his only crime was to get caught.
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Edit: added link for quotes: https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/taxi-driver-had-secret-remote-control-to-add-9-onto-fares-and-used-it-280-times-court-hears-963171.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/taxi-driver-had-secret-remote-control-to-add-9-onto-fares-and-used-it-280-times-court-hears-963171.html)
The offence carried a maximum possible fine of €4,000 and there were 280 counts on the summons, the court was told.
"the offence" is presumably for one offence, not 280?
Fining him €750, he noted Griffin’s early guilty plea and he accepted these proceedings gave rise to some of his health problems. He has six months to pay the fine.
€9 x 280 = approx €2,500. So he basically made €1,750 in profit & got his photo in the Sunday World.
One feature that helped the accused in the measurement of the sanction was his co-operation with the NTA, the judge explained. This allowed 206 other taxis to be checked out
I guess he won't be getting any Xmas cards from his comrades...
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Buy one now
Get off virtually Scot free:
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Buy one now
Get off virtually Scot free:
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I hate to see what are supposed to be 'Grown men' going in to court and playing the violin !
There wasn't too much wrong with him when he was illegally adding on all the extras. Coward !
Scum ! He should have got a short custodial sentence, that might be a deterrent to others not to do the same ?
He made 2.5K out of the scam and was fined 750 ! Where is the justice in that ?
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Can't trust the indigenous driver is the mantra here..........Paddy keeps tightening that rope.
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Yer man has Expurt stickers on his taxi too.How can he be smart enough to drive a Prius but dumb enough to think he could get away with such a obvious fiddle?Hard to feel any sympathy for him.
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Not even a smart fiddle.....were the extras not glaringly obvious?
Anymore prosecutions pending?
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Damage done over the yrs by Paddy the Chancer has served the social engineering policy-makers well. Surprised Zappone and Coppinger aren't out calling for more LGBTQ and "migrants" to enter the game over the head of it.
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Headlines of this mornings Irish daily mail says taxi driver had an overcharging scam going . I didn't read the story, but I wonder is it the same fella ?
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I would imagine it's the same story....Griffin is his surname.
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Yes I just got a glimpse of the story now. Apperently he done 280 times where he overcharged adding 9 euro to the fare by some remote control gaget he had. This resulted in 206 meters being recalled
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I asked yesterday if there were any other prosecutions in the pipeline re the other 206 meters as it doesn't say in the article.
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I asked yesterday if there were any other prosecutions in the pipeline re the other 206 meters as it doesn't say in the article.
All meters would have been tested and checked when they were resealed. They don’t even bring you out for a test drive. It would be hard to see if each driver did add extras, unless they were in a Saloon taxi and had €9 in extras on every job
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It wasn't even an elaborate scam....he was simply adding extras using a remote control that can be bought with the meter...whether the installer let him know this was possible or he googled it himself,
I've never checked my own meter to see how many extras can be added....as a saloon car it should be only be €5....me thinks?
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It wasn't even an elaborate scam....he was simply adding extras using a remote control that can be bought with the meter...whether the installer let him know this was possible or he googled it himself,
I've never checked my own meter to see how many extras can be added....as a saloon car it should be only be €5....me thinks?
Yes Hal correct €5 would/should be the most
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It wasn't even an elaborate scam....he was simply adding extras using a remote control that can be bought with the meter...whether the installer let him know this was possible or he googled it himself,
I've never checked my own meter to see how many extras can be added....as a saloon car it should be only be €5....me thinks?
Yes Hal correct €5 would/should be the most
PUC, 4 pax, M50 toll = €7
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It wasn't even an elaborate scam....he was simply adding extras using a remote control that can be bought with the meter...whether the installer let him know this was possible or he googled it himself,
I've never checked my own meter to see how many extras can be added....as a saloon car it should be only be €5....me thinks?
Yes Hal correct €5 would/should be the most
PUC, 4 pax, M50 toll = €7
PUC €2, 1st Pax FOC, Next 3 Pax €3 , €5 extras on the meter.
I don't think you are allowed/supposed to put the toll charge on the meter !
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Toll charges shouldn't be added to the meter,added manually to the receipt.
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Toll charges shouldn't be added to the meter,added manually to the receipt.
Pourquoi?
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9 extras on mine
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All meters will only go to €9 in extras, as that’s the maximum that can be added on, €2 booking fee and €7 in extras for an 8 seater that’s fully loaded.
Tolls are added to the receipt at the end of the journey, not onto the meter, and the toll is €3.10 not €3
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Yer man has Expurt stickers on his taxi too.How can he be smart enough to drive a Prius but dumb enough to think he could get away with such a obvious fiddle?Hard to feel any sympathy for him.
They advertise Smarties on the side of a bus, doesn't mean they sell them! 8)
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They sell condoms in Boots.
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9 extras on mine
My Hale meter is the same.
The NTA might ask legal meterology to reprogram the saloon meters to a maximum 5 euros in extras in light of this case.
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Toll charges shouldn't be added to the meter,added manually to the receipt.
Receipt details;
Under current regulations it is an offence for a taxi driver not to provide a receipt to all taxi customers on payment of the taxi fare in the format prescribed below.
Printers should therefore be set to automatically print a receipt for all taxi journeys. Taxi receipts should print the following information at a minimum:
1 The receipt number (this should be sequential)
2 The SPSV licence number;
3 The unique vehicle identifier (registration number)
4 The start date of the trip;
5 The distance travelled in kilometres;
6 The start and finish time of the trip;
7 The amount calculated by the meter (broken down into total fare and extras),
and 8 A space highlighted for the manual recording of tips/discounts/tolls,
e.g. Tips / discounts / tolls: _________________
A space to allow calculation of final amount paid (to allow deduction of discounts or addition of tips or tolls) may be added to the receipt if desired, for example:
Total paid: __________________
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They sell condoms in Boots.
Doc Martin's