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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: john m on November 06, 2019, 05:28:07 am
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Listening to Tributes to Gay Byrne and how Ireland has changed since Gay First Broadcast the Late Late Show and all the Good the Show did .What would Byrne of said about ,Hospitals that suffered their worst overcrowding of the year yesterday are now also being hit by a "bed-blocking" crisis.
The number of patients on trolleys soared to 679 yesterday, the worst figure this year and the second-highest ever.
But as hundreds of people waited for hours on trolleys to be admitted to a ward bed, an even higher volume of patients who no longer needed hospital care could not leave because of a lack of suitable step-down care.
The HSE confirmed that 684 of these patients who require transfer from the hospital to their home, nursing home or rehab were in beds.
Some country If your sick you cant get into hospital ,if your well you cant get out of hospital .Hospital overcrowding ,Homelessness,Drug Abuse ,no drinkable water .We are the Poster Child of Europe as we look like we have bounced back from recession .We now live in the Ireland that Gay Byrne Championed a Free Liberal thinking Ireland we are No better off than we were in the 60s with Homelessness ,Poverty No access to Hospitals Back then we had the Irish Hospital Sweepstakes to try to raise money to build hospitals ,The Church built schools the Corpo Built Homes .But now its great we got Womens Lib ,Gay Marrage,Abortion on Demand,Divorce all the ideals that were going to Free The People .I wonder apart from Social Engineering are we any better off today than we were the First Night the Late Late Show was broadcast are we any happier or contented .What exactly did Gay Byrne and his TV show actualy achieve .To listen to Duffy,Kenny ,Veradkar you would think Gay Byrne was the second comming of Christ .
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And in spite of all the shortages you pointed out, the politicans STILL want us to welcome foreigners here this is only because they want their business buddies to be able to avail of the cheap imported labour from both inside, and outside of the EU
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Social Engineering Dalymount .America were the first and most successfull at it .Trump is now against it as he dosent want the rest of the World to prosper.Its a bit like adding water to Whiskey the Whiskey is still there .Some people like a drop of water in their Whiskey others dont The present State of the Nation re Homeless Hospitals,Schools ,Is more Social Engineering nothing to do with a few immigrants .Look at the clothes on your back or the furniture in your Home or the car you drive or the Food you eat not to much of it is Irish Manufactured .What was once the Isle od Saints and Scolars is now the Island of Drunks and Junkies .The definition of an Irish Family is a group who can afford a Home +a Car + Life Insurance and health Insurance .It wasent Foreigners or Imigrants who passed referendia to turn Ireland into a Liberal anything goes state .That was a Government plan to attract overseas companies to invest here .Dalymount the Ireland you long for never existed and the one you imagine is dead and buried
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Are you suggesting that we should return to wife beating, incest and institutional child abuse with mass graves to dispose of the evidence, Erm. While we're at it we could turn a blind eye to developers, bankers and politicians robbing the country blind.
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And in spite of all the shortages you pointed out, the politicans STILL want us to welcome foreigners here this is only because they want their business buddies to be able to avail of the cheap imported labour from both inside, and outside of the EU
To be fair, as far as our trade is concerned, the immigrants earn at least as much as those of us who are Irish by accident of birth. In fact I had a phone call from your favourite dispatcher (Free Now) this morning during which I was told their top driver took in €133,000 last year from an average of 61 jobs per week. Not bad for driving a motor?
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I wonder would they tell the tax man about your colleagues earnings , I reckon they would. Speaking of tax matters rat, you might just be the man to tell me. Do you know anything about this 100 euro a week you can claim for letting a room in your house ?
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It was the first question I asked the man on the phone, DM... unsurprisingly he couldn't tell me how much income tax that driver paid or how much was paid by any of the many others he suggested have takings in excess of €120,000 from base jobs alone. Under current legislation it's not within their remit to disclose drivers' takings to the taxman. However, while one might suspect it wouldn't be in their interests to do so, they have a history of offering anonymised data to relevant authorities.
One thing that is becoming blatantly obvious is that this gig economy thing is really quite significant. Perhaps Govt or Europe should take it seriously and introduce a withholding tax regime.
The rent a room scheme is pretty straightforward. The rent you collect in respect of a room in your sole or main residence is exempt from Income Tax provided the total doesn't exceed €14,000 per annum. There are some exclusions e.g. you can't claim in respect of rent paid by your child or civil partner or by your employer or in respect of short-term/holiday lettings. Full details are available at:
https://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-tax-credits-reliefs-and-exemptions/land-and-property/rent-a-room-relief/index.aspx (https://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-tax-credits-reliefs-and-exemptions/land-and-property/rent-a-room-relief/index.aspx)
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It was the first question I asked the man on the phone, DM... unsurprisingly he couldn't tell me how much income tax that driver paid or how much was paid by any of the many others he suggested have takings in excess of €120,000 from base jobs alone. Under current legislation it's not within their remit to disclose drivers' takings to the taxman. However, while one might suspect it wouldn't be in their interests to do so, they have a history of offering anonymised data to relevant authorities.
One thing that is becoming blatantly obvious is that this gig economy thing is really quite significant. Perhaps Govt or Europe should take it seriously and introduce a withholding tax regime.
The rent a room scheme is pretty straightforward. The rent you collect in respect of a room in your sole or main residence is exempt from Income Tax provided the total doesn't exceed €14,000 per annum. There are some exclusions e.g. you can't claim in respect of rent paid by your child or civil partner or by your employer or in respect of short-term/holiday lettings. Full details are available at:
https://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-tax-credits-reliefs-and-exemptions/land-and-property/rent-a-room-relief/index.aspx (https://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-tax-credits-reliefs-and-exemptions/land-and-property/rent-a-room-relief/index.aspx)
Rat, I would think that if the Revenue people want to find out about one's income they will knock on whatever
door's(Banks/Lending Institutions/FN etc) they so wish and demand answers.
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You're on the right tracks. While they won't knock on doors, as such, if they know you work for Free Now they will want to see every statement you received from that firm in the event of an audit. They may also require you to get letters from up to 5 banks within the State detailing any accounts you hold.... so, in effect, the taxpayer is required to knock on the doors for them.
However, I think what DM was getting at is whether they routinely return such data to Revenue. The answer to that is that it is not within their remit under current legislation. Obviously a withholding tax regime would place an onus on firms like Free Now and Uber to make detailed returns of specific data.
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You're on the right tracks. While they won't knock on doors, as such, if they know you work for Free Now they will want to see every statement you received from that firm in the event of an audit. They may also require you to get letters from up to 5 banks within the State detailing any accounts you hold.... so, in effect, the taxpayer is required to knock on the doors for them.
However, I think what DM was getting at is whether they routinely return such data to Revenue. The answer to that is that it is not within their remit under current legislation. Obviously a withholding tax regime would place an onus on firms like Free Now and Uber to make detailed returns of specific data.
And withhold a certain amount for the revenue ?
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Yes, a regime similar to Professional Services Withholding Tax would seem appropriate given the huge sums involved. In simple terms Free Now and Uber would deduct a %, probably 20%, of total fares from each driver's payment (if any) each week and the driver could then claim the total of such deductions as a tax credit when he submits the relevant annual return.
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And in spite of all the shortages you pointed out, the politicans STILL want us to welcome foreigners here this is only because they want their business buddies to be able to avail of the cheap imported labour from both inside, and outside of the EU
To be fair, as far as our trade is concerned, the immigrants earn at least as much as those of us who are Irish by accident of birth. In fact I had a phone call from your favourite dispatcher (Free Now) this morning during which I was told their top driver took in €133,000 last year from an average of 61 jobs per week. Not bad for driving a motor?
Him and his 4 brothers working the same taxi ratti ....
I seen them switching cars few times ....in the dark they all look the same
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Indeed, sharing a car would probably increase profit. I suppose having 4 drivers to a car is good from a road safety perspective, keeping working hours per man in check.
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To be fair, as far as our trade is concerned, the immigrants earn at least as much as those of us who are Irish by accident of birth. In fact I had a phone call from your favourite dispatcher (Free Now) this morning during which I was told their top driver took in €133,000 last year from an average of 61 jobs per week. Not bad for driving a motor?
€133k / 52weeks / 61 jobs = €42 per job...
€133k / 48weeks / 61 jobs = €46 per job...
(if my sums are right)
You sure it wasn't a director of the company making €133k off the backs of 61 drivers?
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That wasn't lost on me, Watty. Just for context he was trying to convince me that pre-bookings are lucrative in response to my telling him I have less than no interest in them. He said the top ten drivers concentrate on prebookings and have the highest average fares. I suspect the €133,000 is correct but the 61 jobs was probably just taken from what the relevant driver done last week and presented as an average... coincidentally 61 jobs just about scrapes a gold star which one would imagine is necessary to get the pick of high fare prebookings.
Anywaysanall the only reaction he got from me is that €320/week freight is crazy money given that we used to pay a quarter of that before Hail0 came along and, as above, I asked how much income tax the driver in question paid... he didn't know that.
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I never get any phone calls from FN and I'm banned from pre-bookings (don't know why). So I guess I'll always be a poor taxi driver O:-)
You're right about the freight - almost €16k/year for that driver!
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Nobody asked him to join
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I've had three phone calls from them so far this week. If you don't use it for a while they get needy.... about 6 weeks since I last used it.
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Surprised you use it at all, considering the amount of critisiism you give them for the frieght they charge
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The freight is OK for part-timers. I average 17-20 hours per week which generally costs €60-80. Once you go over 22 hours you're paying the big money... a while back I done a 50 hour week and it cost me over ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY EUROS, yes over ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY EUROS... and that was without covering any hospitality jobs, airport pickups, pub jobs, match jobs, Hail0 for Business jobs or doing any pick ups south of Collins Ave or west of Ballymun Road - save the odd one with a desto within that area. Imagine what the full-time Ambassadors who have priority and maximise their takings by working anywhere and everywhere are paying... the hospitality fee alone is an extra €2.00 per job. It';s easy to see how the best drivers are charged well over €300/week... the very drivers who need the job to feed their families anall, subsidising the part-time, fussy scum.
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You're right about the freight - almost €16k/year for that driver!
PLUS Hospitality fees PLUS DAA car parking fees...
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Off-topic but I wonder if many Swords/DAP local people use FN at the airport instead of the official rank?
I've never used FN at the airport but I guess if you're in a taxi queue in the carpark, you have to take the next job? It would be a kick in the nuts to pay 12% plus parking and only get a local run out of it. There used to be 50+ taxis in the FN queue at the airport so I guess you could be waiting an hour or more to get a FN job? Though I suppose you might get a Swords into city centre job out of it?
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I guess you have to take the rough with the smooth if you work for Free Now. DAA licensed drivers have a reputation for throwing their toys out of the pram when they get short jobs but I doubt Free Now would tolerate it's customers being subject to the kind of abuse they dish out. I'd imagine a lot of short fares choose Free Now to avoid the wrath of DAA licensed drivers.
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Free Now drivers wouldn’t generally complain about short fares in general as it all goes towards their weekly goals, whether that be 12, 36 or 60+ jobs. Some drivers even prefer the short jobs as it means they’ll get another short job fairly quick.
Oh it’s ok for FN to disclose that their top driver earns 133,000 but due to GDPR they cannot tell you who it was and certainly cannot give that info to Revenue. “”Apparently””
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Free Now drivers wouldn’t generally complain about short fares in general as it all goes towards their weekly goals, whether that be 12, 36 or 60+ jobs. Some drivers even prefer the short jobs as it means they’ll get another short job fairly quick.
Oh it’s ok for FN to disclose that their top driver earns 133,000 but due to GDPR they cannot tell you who it was and certainly cannot give that info to Revenue. “”Apparently””
Where did this story appear?
If it sounds too good to be true etc.
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Free Now drivers wouldn’t generally complain about short fares in general as it all goes towards their weekly goals, whether that be 12, 36 or 60+ jobs. Some drivers even prefer the short jobs as it means they’ll get another short job fairly quick.
Oh it’s ok for FN to disclose that their top driver earns 133,000 but due to GDPR they cannot tell you who it was and certainly cannot give that info to Revenue. “”Apparently””
Where did this story appear?
If it sounds too good to be true etc.
What story?
You’re a long time driving a taxi SB, I’m sure you remember a time before radio companies and when they came in drivers warned other drivers that the cab company could give their income to revenue, same shit with FN etc etc etc
I know Bubba will remember those days
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Free Now drivers wouldn’t generally complain about short fares in general as it all goes towards their weekly goals, whether that be 12, 36 or 60+ jobs. Some drivers even prefer the short jobs as it means they’ll get another short job fairly quick.
Oh it’s ok for FN to disclose that their top driver earns 133,000 but due to GDPR they cannot tell you who it was and certainly cannot give that info to Revenue. “”Apparently””
Where did this story appear?
If it sounds too good to be true etc.
What story?
You’re a long time driving a taxi SB, I’m sure you remember a time before radio companies and when they came in drivers warned other drivers that the cab company could give their income to revenue, same shit with FN etc etc etc
I know Bubba will remember those days
Just where was it mentioned that a driver took in 130K in fares?
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Someone from FN said it to Rats on the telephone
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133k to be precise... it's part of their telemarketing spiel... and yisser wonder why half of Bangladesh is getting married to half of Poland.
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I believe it was mentioned here
http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=11064.msg120992#msg120992 (http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=11064.msg120992#msg120992)
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133k to be precise... it's part of their telemarketing spiel... and yisser wonder why half of Bangladesh is getting married to half of Poland.
We came
Warsaw
We concurred.. 8)
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A chap who works one of the ranks in town got a similar phone call earlier in the year but back then the top earner was pulling a measly 102k.Imagine what the fukkers are saying go the NTA everytime they want the geography test eased or saloon plates released again.
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The only ones who can stop dispatchers including F/N are drivers. I just do not be able to believe at times. That existing drivers are fully aware that dispatchers regularly go to the NTA looking for more plates to be realeased
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Maybe we should question these phonecalls...bang off a few e-mails to
Gaybo Jooooe Dufffffy,Prenders,Kennedy and get to the bottom of this!!
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I can't see any advantage in that, Hal. No doubt Free Now have nice glossy graphs to show how much full-time drivers working for the firm take in and how much more work they could cover with some relaxation in licensing laws. They probably already use the Immigrant Council of Ireland to recruit drivers, given DMs belief that many immigrants are working for less than minimum wage.
Then we have Jim Waldron (NPHTA enforcer) telling anybody that'll listen that we need lower entry costs because 21,000 drivers left the trade to pursue more lucrative careers/vocations.
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I don't think i'm on course for the 130k salary this year...there's always 2020!!
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I think allowing a select few to take the cream of the prebook jobs is an absolutely moronic idea.All it does is ensure that the majority of the fleet get left with scraps.Not great for keeping drivers fully engaged with the app.They just can't help shooting themselves in the feet.
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That's takings not salary or profit, Hal. I'd say you'd have to be a Gold Star Ambassador for that kind of money. Govt or Europe ought to pay it some heed though. The so called "gig economy" isn't merely comprised of a few nixers that can be reasonably overlooked, there's serious money in it. There's loads of drivers working for Free Now doing 50-60 hours/week, they must be taking €75k/year in base/gig jobs alone.
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That figure of 133k could piss some drivers off...but i know you're happy with your 100k MFH!!
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I'm happy being poor for now.I'll get stuck in next year...maybe.
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What will the pissed off drivers do... give Free Now more free advertising or let the clapped out shiteboxes masquerading as limousines and hackneys have their work?
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They just need to try harder.
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3 drivers/ 3 eight hour shifts and 100K+ is doable.
Especially if you're all called Mohammed.
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His Bobness.
https://youtu.be/wMDO_lvSQYE
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3 drivers/ 3 eight hour shifts and 100K+ is doable.
Especially if you're all called Mohammed.
I'd say you'd easily take €75k in base jobs off a 50 hour week. I wasn't far off that myself last time I done 50 hours and I only worked beyond midnight one night of the week and didn't cover any airport pickups, pub pickups, hospitality jobs, Hail0 for Business jobs, match jobs or prebookings. Neither did I accept any jobs south of Collins Ave or west of Ballymun Road save the odd one or two with destinations within my preferred working area.
However, 3 drivers per car is a positive thing from a road safety perspective. I've previously heard of FN drivers working almost around the clock.
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Would the two other drivers fit in the boot?...might rule out airport jobs though!!
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I think Ebbs does week about on beds in his flats.
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I may be wrong, but I remember reading a small ad on the Lymp website it said " For sale - Chest of Drawers, sleeps 5" allegedly!! 8)
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Some boyo.....i know for a fact you wouldn't get five in a chest of drawers.
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HOW BROKEN SMASHED TO BITS ..A friend telling me His Daughter needs a Breast Scan and His Hen needs a MRI on her Spine .Doctor says appointment for MRI next available date 2020 October and Breast Scan your on the waiting list BUT you can go private and pay for both .Now even the PAYE workers are being encouraged to Jump the Q by going semi Private .GET A GUN the revolution is coming and it wont be the Tree hugging Hippies that will kick it off .The Angry Bastard Party will get organised .No Houses ,No Hospitals No Hope .
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Indeed John.....i'm waiting for an appointment to see a consultant,my GP could have referred me privately but i declined,we do have health ins through my missuss job,i would have to pay the consultants fee and get nothing back from our insurers but would probably get any possible procedure paid for by them....they do refund half of GP fees and prescription fees,i recently got new glasses,our PRSI contribution pays for the eye test and some money(not much) off the glasses and our insurers refunded me €150 also....we also have dental cover aswell...and that's next on my list.....i'm determined to have a Hollywood smile for my 60th!!
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Mid-2018, I had a medical thing and my GP wrote to the Mater Public. They wrote back and basically told him/me to fukk off. Went private* and all sorted now. Was back with GP in Aug 2019 and he told me the Mater had told him I was on a list to get on THE list.
Shouldn't we tell them I'm better now, I asked?
He laughed and said they'll never write to you again. I think my question was the funniest thing he'd heard all week!
* Might be useful for some - https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/1/schemes/cross-border-directive/ (https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/1/schemes/cross-border-directive/) Because the UK & N.I. is still in the EU, you can go North/UK and get treated up there. You can go anywhere in the EU actually. You pay upfront, wait a few months and get most of your money back from the HSE. It's a bit more complicated than that but that's the gist of it.
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I had 2 hip replacement surgeries this year, only paid for the hospital stay at €90 per day.
No VHI no medical card.
I guess they can't get blood from a stone.
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How long were you waiting from 1st GP diagnosis --> Operations?
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How long were you waiting from 1st GP diagnosis --> Operations?
Under a year. Diagnosed April 2018, first operation 05/03/2019, second operation 18/06/2019.
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How long were you waiting from 1st GP diagnosis --> Operations?
Under a year. Diagnosed April 2018, first operation 05/03/2019, second operation 18/06/2019.
Bullit yu dont sound like an owlfellas.....how did yu wear out the ball an sockets? Wer yu a jogging person ? ???
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Under a year. Diagnosed April 2018, first operation 05/03/2019, second operation 18/06/2019.
That's pretty impressive!
Did you get them done in Cappagh? Hope you got a guarentee. You know they get the bits from the travellers down the road O:-)
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How long were you waiting from 1st GP diagnosis --> Operations?
Under a year. Diagnosed April 2018, first operation 05/03/2019, second operation 18/06/2019.
Bullit yu dont sound like an owlfellas.....how did yu wear out the ball an sockets? Wer yu a jogging person ? ???
Kenpo, Cycling and worst of all smoking.
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How long were you waiting from 1st GP diagnosis --> Operations?
Under a year. Diagnosed April 2018, first operation 05/03/2019, second operation 18/06/2019.
Bullit yu dont sound like an owlfellas.....how did yu wear out the ball an sockets? Wer yu a jogging person ? ???
Kenpo, Cycling and worst of all smoking.
I dun them all too for yers bullit....and no problem wit the hips .....I tink the jogging is lethal tho ....cycling I cant see doin any damages.......tank god I'm off the smokes 50 months now...best ting I ever did...
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How long were you waiting from 1st GP diagnosis --> Operations?
Under a year. Diagnosed April 2018, first operation 05/03/2019, second operation 18/06/2019.
Bullit yu dont sound like an owlfellas.....how did yu wear out the ball an sockets? Wer yu a jogging person ? ???
Kenpo, Cycling and worst of all smoking.
I dun them all too for yers bullit....and no problem wit the hips .....I tink the jogging is lethal tho ....cycling I cant see doin any damages.......tank god I'm off the smokes 50 months now...best ting I ever did...
There are people in their 20s and 30s getting total hip replacement surgery, smokes are next on my list
Hardly touch a drink barring a therapeutic glass of full bodied red when on holiday.
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Full bodied redhead be more my thing!!
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Full bodied redhead be more my thing!!
I'm thinking Catherine Tate?
https://youtu.be/wICloiO8_Jw 8)
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Full bodied redhead be more my thing!!
I'm thinking Catherine Tate?
https://youtu.be/wICloiO8_Jw 8)
I would..... but the duck tape would get an outing!!
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Brought a lady to the Breast Clinic last week (Bside Vinny's Private) , she told me they mark the breast that has the problem and bring her across the road to Vinny's private for surgery.
Anyway's she was told she had a good Breast (benign) and a not so good one that need a job done, was in hospital a few week's ago and guess what the cnuts made a bollx and operated on the good breast. The surgeon was all apologies and explained the wrong Breast was marked etc etc.
I told her to consult with her brief and screw the cnuts. Imagine if it was a leg job you were in for !!
Oh, she also told me a 1 nite stay in a private room cost her insurance crew nearly 5k and that was ONLY for the room, fckn scandalous , no wonder private insurance is sky high.
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14 k for a week at Blackrock including surgery..............5k a night seems a bit inflated..........no penthouses in either hospital.
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They all have different rates for cash and insured clients.
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Insurance paid out the 14k on my behalf after I ticked a few boxes........the rates are set and non-negotiable. If someone was asked for 5 k to spend on a night in hospital I suggest a 3 week cruise in the Med might be more therapeutic.
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The lady was not spoofing me , she quoted something like €4975 for OVERNITE stay in Private room , her medical fees came to about 1/2 of that.
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Yeah but the Blackrock clinic has an indoor fish pond lads.Big bucks spent there.
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Yeah but the Blackrock clinic has an indoor fish pond lads.Big bucks spent there.
Ah Nice fresh fish for their dinnr so
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The lady was not spoofing me , she quoted something like €4975 for OVERNITE stay in Private room , her medical fees came to about 1/2 of that.
Cancer treatment is very costly. Think a round of chemo is 50k or close to it. Wasn't saying she was spoofing you STC...........the bit about the wrong breast is very believable if you consider a man went in for routine heart surgery and had to get his leg amputated because the "qualified" doctors forgot to administer anti-clotting agents after the op....Letterkenny hospital.
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Yeah but the Blackrock clinic has an indoor fish pond lads.Big bucks spent there.
AND up to date magazines in the waiting rooms!
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AND up to date magazines in the waiting rooms!
Is there a sperm bank on the premises?
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AND up to date magazines in the waiting rooms!
Is there a sperm bank on the premises?
For a donor or a recipient ?
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AND up to date magazines in the waiting rooms!
Is there a sperm bank on the premises?
For a donor or a recipient ?
Kebab?