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Title: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 07, 2019, 04:14:17 PM
24 hour bus service to be trialed in Dublin very soon .I'd say this is the death knell for us night drivers
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Belker on November 07, 2019, 04:34:23 PM
We have it down here in Cork, great fer commuters but not fer night time Taxi drivers.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 07, 2019, 04:52:23 PM
24 hour bus service to be trialed in Dublin very soon .I'd say this is the death knell for us night drivers

Wait till there's fukin killings on them.....and there will be...literally!!
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: watty on November 07, 2019, 05:34:18 PM
Last time I checked, buses run in pre-determined routes.

Don't work nights myself but I'd imagine:
If you're drunk and need to get home quick (with takeaway food/partner), you're more likely to get a taxi to your front door rather than walk 10-15mins from the bus stop.
Also, can't see too many women walking home in the dark from the bus stop.

Taxi's aren't too expensive if there's 3 or 4 people sharing.  I think a normal bus fare is €3 or more now!
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 07, 2019, 05:39:42 PM
It'll be a novelty at first, but hopefully it'll wear off after a while
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Belker on November 07, 2019, 05:41:49 PM
2.80 is the standard fare.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Belker on November 07, 2019, 05:44:50 PM
It'll be a novelty at first, but hopefully it'll wear off after a while
No, It wont, it gets more popular by the week down here in Cork.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 07, 2019, 05:57:50 PM
I'd say it'll be subsidised...from the money we contribute through fees etc,
Don't know about Cork Ken....but be safer..and cheaper in the long run when people share a taxi home...and it's a door to door service.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 07, 2019, 06:50:20 PM
We need to fight back, because it's grossly unfair the way the NTA do everything to facilitate public transport. The taxi industry always seem to be the poor relations with the NTA. Why should Dublin bus be subsidized for instance ??
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: markmiwurdz on November 07, 2019, 07:40:40 PM
It's not called "The Fight-Link" in Dublin for nothing.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dublin2018 on November 07, 2019, 08:01:12 PM
 Big hit will be the Night drivers with the students as UCD and DCU covered,and Dublin airport late flights will be covered now as I heard Dublin airport will be getting a bus every 30 mins to city other routes hourly .Taxi Industry is changing rapidly.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Taxi driver42 on November 07, 2019, 08:05:58 PM
3am pissed drunk cold nite
Do u really want a bus and a walk after it to house?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: john m on November 07, 2019, 08:17:02 PM
We need to fight back, because it's grossly unfair the way the NTA do everything to facilitate public transport. The taxi industry always seem to be the poor relations with the NTA. Why should Dublin bus be subsidized for instance ??

You need to Grow Up Dalymount .Public transport is essential filling your wallett is not .Try ask yourself if you were not a taxi driver would you want a good Public transport system .You want to know the future of the taxi industry just look at the Drinks industry .1977 there were less than two dozen Off Licences in Dublin now Every shop and Garage is selling Porter .Drink is now cheaper than it ever was and the people likeit .Transport is a major charge on your income if you are working most of my night time customers are minimum pay workers in the hospitality industry .I predicted this when the UK based Go Bus entered the market .What sort of Company director would want to park quarter of a million euro wort of a bus for eight or ten hours a day and make no coin .There use to be a very inteligent Poster on Roys FDS who told you this is a part time gig .Great for pensioners or second jobbers .Stop thinking taxi driving is a Career its a plaything for casual workers or the deranged who want to work 70 hours a week .Do you remember Butcher Shops now there are butcher counters in Supermarkets same with bookie shops now there are apps .The successfull businesses provide the PUBLIC with what they want and a Good BUS,TRAIN,LUAS ,METRO is what they want NOT a TAXI service .My advice for anybody under 50 in this industry is think about getting a PAYE job and taxi as a bonus its not a full time gig for anybody bringing up young kids and paying a Mortgage .
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Vikkiz on November 07, 2019, 08:24:45 PM
We need to fight back, because it's grossly unfair the way the NTA do everything to facilitate public transport. The taxi industry always seem to be the poor relations with the NTA. Why should Dublin bus be subsidized for instance ??

You need to Grow Up Dalymount .Public transport is essential filling your wallett is not .Try ask yourself if you were not a taxi driver would you want a good Public transport system .You want to know the future of the taxi industry just look at the Drinks industry .1977 there were less than two dozen Off Licences in Dublin now Every shop and Garage is selling Porter .Drink is now cheaper than it ever was and the people likeit .Transport is a major charge on your income if you are working most of my night time customers are minimum pay workers in the hospitality industry .I predicted this when the UK based Go Bus entered the market .What sort of Company director would want to park quarter of a million euro wort of a bus for eight or ten hours a day and make no coin .There use to be a very inteligent Poster on Roys FDS who told you this is a part time gig .Great for pensioners or second jobbers .Stop thinking taxi driving is a Career its a plaything for casual workers or the deranged who want to work 70 hours a week .Do you remember Butcher Shops now there are butcher counters in Supermarkets same with bookie shops now there are apps .The successfull businesses provide the PUBLIC with what they want and a Good BUS,TRAIN,LUAS ,METRO is what they want NOT a TAXI service .My advice for anybody under 50 in this industry is think about getting a PAYE job and taxi as a bonus its not a full time gig for anybody bringing up young kids and paying a Mortgage .
I’m under 50 and have intentions of leaving the industry in the next 5 to 10 years, unless we emigrate or I fucking die. My missus has a great paying job and I don’t need to work but I’d go mad at home all day every day. I do fuck all work anyways but enough to pay my bills and live a life
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dublin2018 on November 07, 2019, 08:32:10 PM
100% Taxi is now a Partime job.Getting harder and harder to do and bring in income on a full-time basis.I'm also looking for a job  as I to am under Hawaii 50.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 07, 2019, 08:41:11 PM
Don't think the fella earning 133k would agree with ya
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dublin2018 on November 07, 2019, 08:59:50 PM
 rofl
Don't think the fella earning 133k would agree with ya
rofl
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: silverbullet on November 07, 2019, 09:49:48 PM
Don't think the fella earning 133k would agree with ya
Three fellas.One car.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: taxi1990 on November 07, 2019, 10:03:27 PM
ok so a 24 bus service isnt a great thing for taxi drivers but can anyone see anything positive that might happen for us in the next few years? its all very doom and gloom on this site at times, its like some drivers are hoping to be proved right that the industry is doomed. i agree on the NTA bunch of idiots who seem to want to make life as hard as possible for us. local link, 24 bus service, local area hackneys getting their insurance paid for them. then tell them about illegal hackneys and they dont want to know.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: john m on November 07, 2019, 10:29:48 PM
ok so a 24 bus service isnt a great thing for taxi drivers but can anyone see anything positive that might happen for us in the next few years? its all very doom and gloom on this site at times, its like some drivers are hoping to be proved right that the industry is doomed. i agree on the NTA bunch of idiots who seem to want to make life as hard as possible for us. local link, 24 bus service, local area hackneys getting their insurance paid for them. then tell them about illegal hackneys and they dont want to know.

A taxi service is a luxury askdrivers who were in this game in the 70s or 80s average working stiff didnt take taxies to work .Private providers are taking over Public transport .Look at all the bus services to and from the Airport .LUAS only stops for 5 hours a day because of Planning Permission .Busses will run 24/7 rentablke and Car rental by the Hour are the future .Big thing will be if they allow Electric Cars use the Buslanes and like Bristol inthe UK The Greens hold the balance of power in the next government you might see Diesels banned from the City or a Congestion Charge .Congestion Charge might be good for taxi industry as it would make us more economically efficient but any Diesel Ban would probably apply to ALL service vehicles including Taxies .No reason why a Diesel taxi should be exempt if a delivery van is not .
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: taxi1990 on November 07, 2019, 10:53:59 PM
i think taxis are good value when you think about it compared to getting on a bus or luas filled with junkies, weirdos, convicts and pig ignorant drivers. would love to see the free travel for oaps done away with, i see millionaires who always use it, too tight to buy diesel for their cars and have a bit of comfort.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dublin2018 on November 07, 2019, 10:57:04 PM
ok so a 24 bus service isnt a great thing for taxi drivers but can anyone see anything positive that might happen for us in the next few years? its all very doom and gloom on this site at times, its like some drivers are hoping to be proved right that the industry is doomed. i agree on the NTA bunch of idiots who seem to want to make life as hard as possible for us. local link, 24 bus service, local area hackneys getting their insurance paid for them. then tell them about illegal hackneys and they dont want to know.
I wish there was something positive Taxis are a cash cow for NTA The meter change in January will subsidise those buses and the out of city jobs will become less and less.Freenow is doing ride share and fixed fares its changing rapidly and is costing more to run a taxi everyday.I dont know any driver happy going to work .I find im being hit at all angles as street work is now harder to get.

1. 24 hr buses

2. Rickshaws

3.Aircoach

4.Luas

5.Naan Vans

6.Freenow

7.Uber

10 years ago none of the above existed
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: mercenary for hire on November 07, 2019, 11:00:21 PM
Why do yis keep saying its a part-time gig?How many part-time jobs do you have to pay 10k a year to clear your overheads?Fuk all.

The city has workers who can't afford to pay 30 quid home to Blanch or Sutton every night on minimum wages.Any of you lads hitting 60 soon shouldn't really be out driving at night for your own safety anyway.Messy oul job.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: taxi1990 on November 07, 2019, 11:20:21 PM
ok so a 24 bus service isnt a great thing for taxi drivers but can anyone see anything positive that might happen for us in the next few years? its all very doom and gloom on this site at times, its like some drivers are hoping to be proved right that the industry is doomed. i agree on the NTA bunch of idiots who seem to want to make life as hard as possible for us. local link, 24 bus service, local area hackneys getting their insurance paid for them. then tell them about illegal hackneys and they dont want to know.
I wish there was something positive Taxis are a cash cow for NTA The meter change in January will subsidise those buses and the out of city jobs will become less and less.Freenow is doing ride share and fixed fares its changing rapidly and is costing more to run a taxi everyday.I dont know any driver happy going to work .I find im being hit at all angles as street work is now harder to get.

1. 24 hr buses

2. Rickshaws

3.Aircoach

4.Luas

5.Naan Vans

6.Freenow

7.Uber

10 years ago none of the above existed




The luas is in operation 15 years.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dublin2018 on November 07, 2019, 11:27:29 PM
ok so a 24 bus service isnt a great thing for taxi drivers but can anyone see anything positive that might happen for us in the next few years? its all very doom and gloom on this site at times, its like some drivers are hoping to be proved right that the industry is doomed. i agree on the NTA bunch of idiots who seem to want to make life as hard as possible for us. local link, 24 bus service, local area hackneys getting their insurance paid for them. then tell them about illegal hackneys and they dont want to know.
I wish there was something positive Taxis are a cash cow for NTA The meter change in January will subsidise those buses and the out of city jobs will become less and less.Freenow is doing ride share and fixed fares its changing rapidly and is costing more to run a taxi everyday.I dont know any driver happy going to work .I find im being hit at all angles as street work is now harder to get.

1. 24 hr buses

2. Rickshaws

3.Aircoach

4.Luas

5.Naan Vans

6.Freenow

7.Uber

10 years ago none of the above existed




The luas is in operation 15 years.
2004 1st line others followed upto 2017.but all the above have been nipping away at our income either way and costs have jumped insurance, tax,fuel ,
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: john m on November 07, 2019, 11:36:51 PM
Transport industry is the most inneficient in the world .How often do you cover a job and return empty .Same with companies delivering to customers .Especially Branded Own trucks Deliver your product only and return empty .Thats why business use Couriers and now Private Car owners are covering some courier work .Now add in Emissions and save the World the future of Transport will change FAST .
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: gbowden on November 08, 2019, 07:48:51 AM
We need to fight back, because it's grossly unfair the way the NTA do everything to facilitate public transport. The taxi industry always seem to be the poor relations with the NTA. Why should Dublin bus be subsidized for instance ??

As a newbie to this sector as in NEW still looking around for a car.

Why don’t you fight back? Is there not a union or group of people that could get together to put forward a well thought out case

My suggestion and excuse my ignorance as I said newbie
1. Airport why do you have to pay? It’s providing a service the government should be.
2. Why should a business pay VRT at the usual rate, after all it is a business, if I bought a van up north and paid the vrt as commercial it would be only €300 odd.
3. A subsidised rate for fuel after all most is tax?
4. A group insurance scheme through the government for motor insurance

Instead of raising the fair bring it down a small bit if the above is done, that way taxis will be more appealing.

Free now and the likes is great for the Industry, 99% of people have a phone now and convenience is what people want. Talk to the government and get a taxi app that belong to the taxi driver and the government control it.

I might be naive as I’m a newbie, but I think a lot of yous in the game a long time feel hard done by, it’s your and hopefully my industry so get together and stand up with intellectual arguments and co front the NTA.




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Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: john m on November 08, 2019, 09:15:10 AM
What makes you think taxi drivers should be treated different than Couriers we both do the same thing deliver cargo ?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Octavia1 on November 08, 2019, 09:47:18 AM
We need to fight back, because it's grossly unfair the way the NTA do everything to facilitate public transport. The taxi industry always seem to be the poor relations with the NTA. Why should Dublin bus be subsidized for instance ??

As a newbie to this sector as in NEW still looking around for a car.

Why don’t you fight back? Is there not a union or group of people that could get together to put forward a well thought out case

My suggestion and excuse my ignorance as I said newbie
1. Airport why do you have to pay? It’s providing a service the government should be.
2. Why should a business pay VRT at the usual rate, after all it is a business, if I bought a van up north and paid the vrt as commercial it would be only €300 odd.
3. A subsidised rate for fuel after all most is tax?
4. A group insurance scheme through the government for motor insurance

Instead of raising the fair bring it down a small bit if the above is done, that way taxis will be more appealing.

Free now and the likes is great for the Industry, 99% of people have a phone now and convenience is what people want. Talk to the government and get a taxi app that belong to the taxi driver and the government control it.

I might be naive as I’m a newbie, but I think a lot of yous in the game a long time feel hard done by, it’s your and hopefully my industry so get together and stand up with intellectual arguments and co front the NTA.




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It's not an industry....its somewhere to put
 umemployables ,ex prisoners , illegal immigrants,
Jihadists, foreign war criminals on the run , drug lords ,cant work and wont works, retired  gardai, and mad cnuts wit asperger's like meself ....
All of them are thankfully of somewhere to hide
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: gbowden on November 08, 2019, 09:52:50 AM
What makes you think taxi drivers should be treated different than Couriers we both do the same thing deliver cargo ?

That's your answer?? 

The cargo Taxi's transport are people not boxes or parcels. You have a low opinion about taxi drivers if this is the case.
You need to fight for the industry you are a part off, not put obstacles in the way.

Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: mercenary for hire on November 08, 2019, 09:54:17 AM
Drivers are too busy trying to screw each other over to ever consider any sort of unity.Irish don't really like the foreigners.The immigrants don't care for us.The Polish think their better than the blacks.And most if us don't trust the elephant jockeys.Airport lads aren't liked outside of the kesh.And so on and so on..

Then you have Freenow trying to play us off against each other with ranking systems and ambassador programs.The job is a steaming pile of shite but nobody can sack us so we stay and become bitter...sometimes...
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: john m on November 08, 2019, 09:55:41 AM
What makes you think taxi drivers should be treated different than Couriers we both do the same thing deliver cargo ?

That's your answer?? 

The cargo Taxi's transport are people not boxes or parcels. You have a low opinion about taxi drivers if this is the case.
You need to fight for the industry you are a part off, not put obstacles in the way.

A taxi driver is simply a courier he delivers boney things covered in fat .A courier delivers boxes a Taxi driver can ask the Fat for directions but boxes cant talk .Therefore a Courier needs greater skill than a Taxidriver to deliver the cargo .
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 08, 2019, 09:57:28 AM
The fact is, this COULD actually be a viable industry if the incumbents in it stopped constantly saying it's only a part time big, it's this , it's that, the truth is there is a good living to be made if the people operating within it actually showed the NTAwe cared about our livlehoods. There should be a concerted effort by full time fully legal , fully complaint, full professional drivers to show the NTA, and others we care. You can ant expect them to give a fukk if we dont
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: gbowden on November 08, 2019, 10:00:15 AM
Drivers are too busy trying to screw each other over to ever consider any sort of unity.Irish don't really like the foreigners.The immigrants don't care for us.The Polish think their better than the blacks.And most if us don't trust the camel jockeys.Airport lads aren't liked outside of the kesh.And so on and so on..

Then you have Freenow trying to play us off against each other with ranking systems and ambassador programs.The job is a steaming pile of shite but nobody can sack us so we stay and become bitter...sometimes...

That's the most honest thing i have read since joining.

If and when the demise of taxi's does happen, that's what i have been reading will happen here....it will be no ones fault but the people that said nothing.

Unity is what the industry needs and not division.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: john m on November 08, 2019, 10:00:59 AM
Drivers are too busy trying to screw each other over to ever consider any sort of unity.Irish don't really like the foreigners.The immigrants don't care for us.The Polish think their better than the blacks.And most if us don't trust the camel jockeys.Airport lads aren't liked outside of the kesh.And so on and so on..

Then you have Freenow trying to play us off against each other with ranking systems and ambassador programs.The job is a steaming pile of shite but nobody can sack us so we stay and become bitter...sometimes...

This job has a way of grabbing you .You either surrender to 70 hours a week or you dabble doing the least you can .Driving past Heuston at 1 20 yeaterday afternoon 53 cars waiting for the Cork train .I have become Fat and lazy since I got into this business .If I was healthy and fit I would be out of it
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 08, 2019, 10:02:59 AM
All the things MFH said about F, N is true, but this is because the drivers are GIVING them that power on a daily basis by joining them. I just cannot understand how drivers don't see that THEY THEMSELVES hold all the aces, yet they cannot give them away quickly enough to dispatchers
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: john m on November 08, 2019, 10:03:59 AM
The fact is, this COULD actually be a viable industry if the incumbents in it stopped constantly saying it's only a part time big, it's this , it's that, the truth is there is a good living to be made if the people operating within it actually showed the NTAwe cared about our livlehoods. There should be a concerted effort by full time fully legal , fully complaint, full professional drivers to show the NTA, and others we care. You can ant expect them to give a fukk if we dont

You refuse to listen Dalymount .There is no suck legal entity as a Full Time taxi driver .A supreme court judge upheld that .Why do you think anybody can get a PSV licence why do you think we can still get WAVs Read the Court judgement and stop spouting crap .
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 08, 2019, 10:10:34 AM
Not spouting crap John, I have always believed in people power. If you have enough drivers prepared to take the nessesary action to achieve whatever we need to achieve then we will get a result. Example I think it's fair to say, there are a large number of people operating illegally within the industry. Now this has been going on for years, and the reason for this is , there has been no great pressure put on the NTA enforcement to address this issue, so they drag their heels. This is just one example alone where a sustained blockage of the city would be effective
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: gbowden on November 08, 2019, 10:16:39 AM
Drivers are too busy trying to screw each other over to ever consider any sort of unity.Irish don't really like the foreigners.The immigrants don't care for us.The Polish think their better than the blacks.And most if us don't trust the camel jockeys.Airport lads aren't liked outside of the kesh.And so on and so on..

Then you have Freenow trying to play us off against each other with ranking systems and ambassador programs.The job is a steaming pile of shite but nobody can sack us so we stay and become bitter...sometimes...

This job has a way of grabbing you .You either surrender to 70 hours a week or you dabble doing the least you can .Driving past Heuston at 1 20 yeaterday afternoon 53 cars waiting for the Cork train .I have become Fat and lazy since I got into this business .If I was healthy and fit I would be out of it

I hear what your saying but how many people on the train? Did all the taxi's get a fair, was there customers waiting after all the taxi's went? Your only seeing 1 side!

You can be fit and healthy being a taxidriver, it's down to your own choices you make day in day out, don't blame the taxi for laziness. I'm not trying to insult you or be negative, but some personal responsibilty has to come in.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: john m on November 08, 2019, 10:19:45 AM
Read the deregulation judgement .The Minister has no legal right to restrict entry he can only set standards .1 entry test 2 Vehicle .Thats an open Goal if this business ever became profitable then more people would enter it .It would eat itself .The only people who can make a living in this game are people who dont need to make a living .As Merc says cost of remaining is high the more you work the more you pay for fuel ,maintanance and commissions wear and tare .If I had a company van parked outside the house and was working 9 to 5 I would be better off financially .As I posted years ago on Roys I bought a taxi licence as a Pension but they then changed the rules and decided if you didnt put it on a car you lost it .If I could of put it in the drawer until I wanted to use it I wouldnt be working the car now and competing for fares .
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: gbowden on November 08, 2019, 10:20:00 AM
The fact is, this COULD actually be a viable industry if the incumbents in it stopped constantly saying it's only a part time big, it's this , it's that, the truth is there is a good living to be made if the people operating within it actually showed the NTAwe cared about our livlehoods. There should be a concerted effort by full time fully legal , fully complaint, full professional drivers to show the NTA, and others we care. You can ant expect them to give a fukk if we dont

You refuse to listen Dalymount .There is no suck legal entity as a Full Time taxi driver .A supreme court judge upheld that .Why do you think anybody can get a PSV licence why do you think we can still get WAVs Read the Court judgement and stop spouting crap .

Thats not true, you have to pass a test for starters, you then have to apply and get garda vetted. Plus if you have a criminal record your application will be revoked.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: john m on November 08, 2019, 10:25:31 AM
The fact is, this COULD actually be a viable industry if the incumbents in it stopped constantly saying it's only a part time big, it's this , it's that, the truth is there is a good living to be made if the people operating within it actually showed the NTAwe cared about our livlehoods. There should be a concerted effort by full time fully legal , fully complaint, full professional drivers to show the NTA, and others we care. You can ant expect them to give a fukk if we dont

You refuse to listen Dalymount .There is no suck legal entity as a Full Time taxi driver .A supreme court judge upheld that .Why do you think anybody can get a PSV licence why do you think we can still get WAVs Read the Court judgement and stop spouting crap .

Thats not true, you have to pass a test for starters, you then have to apply and get garda vetted. Plus if you have a criminal record your application will be revoked.

You Dont have aTAXI licence You do not have to pass any test to get a Taxi licence .You need to pass a test to get a Public Service Driving Licence .
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: gbowden on November 08, 2019, 10:31:53 AM
The fact is, this COULD actually be a viable industry if the incumbents in it stopped constantly saying it's only a part time big, it's this , it's that, the truth is there is a good living to be made if the people operating within it actually showed the NTAwe cared about our livlehoods. There should be a concerted effort by full time fully legal , fully complaint, full professional drivers to show the NTA, and others we care. You can ant expect them to give a fukk if we dont

You refuse to listen Dalymount .There is no suck legal entity as a Full Time taxi driver .A supreme court judge upheld that .Why do you think anybody can get a PSV licence why do you think we can still get WAVs Read the Court judgement and stop spouting crap .

Thats not true, you have to pass a test for starters, you then have to apply and get garda vetted. Plus if you have a criminal record your application will be revoked.

You Dont have aTAXI licence You do not have to pass any test to get a Taxi licence .You need to pass a test to get a Public Service Driving Licence .

Are you sure????
see below what i had to do to get my Licence

For your application you will require the following:

The receipt for your licence fee
Your photographs
Evidence that you are tax compliant
Your driving licence
Your SPSV Skills Development Certificate
A written undertaking that you will not drive an SPSV for more than 11 hours on any three consecutive days
Details of any other occupation in which you are engaged, and, if that other occupation involves driving, evidence that you have informed the employer of your intention to apply for an SPSV driver licence
A declaration that your health does not materially affect your ability to drive an SPSV
A declaration that you have not been convicted of any of the offences specified in section 30(3) or the Schedule to the Consolidated Taxi Regulation Acts 2013 and 2016
Any other documents requested by An Garda Síochána.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: john m on November 08, 2019, 10:43:44 AM
The fact is, this COULD actually be a viable industry if the incumbents in it stopped constantly saying it's only a part time big, it's this , it's that, the truth is there is a good living to be made if the people operating within it actually showed the NTAwe cared about our livlehoods. There should be a concerted effort by full time fully legal , fully complaint, full professional drivers to show the NTA, and others we care. You can ant expect them to give a fukk if we dont

You refuse to listen Dalymount .There is no suck legal entity as a Full Time taxi driver .A supreme court judge upheld that .Why do you think anybody can get a PSV licence why do you think we can still get WAVs Read the Court judgement and stop spouting crap .

Thats not true, you have to pass a test for starters, you then have to apply and get garda vetted. Plus if you have a criminal record your application will be revoked.

You Dont have aTAXI licence You do not have to pass any test to get a Taxi licence .You need to pass a test to get a Public Service Driving Licence .

Are you sure????
see below what i had to do to get my Licence

For your application you will require the following:

The receipt for your licence fee
Your photographs
Evidence that you are tax compliant
Your driving licence
Your SPSV Skills Development Certificate
A written undertaking that you will not drive an SPSV for more than 11 hours on any three consecutive days
Details of any other occupation in which you are engaged, and, if that other occupation involves driving, evidence that you have informed the employer of your intention to apply for an SPSV driver licence
A declaration that your health does not materially affect your ability to drive an SPSV
A declaration that you have not been convicted of any of the offences specified in section 30(3) or the Schedule to the Consolidated Taxi Regulation Acts 2013 and 2016
Any other documents requested by An Garda Síochána.

Thats for your DRIVING LICENCE application NOTHING to Do with a TAxi Licence .
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 08, 2019, 11:31:31 AM
Big hit will be the Night drivers with the students as UCD and DCU covered,and Dublin airport late flights will be covered now as I heard Dublin airport will be getting a bus every 30 mins to city other routes hourly .Taxi Industry is changing rapidly.

To be fair, in the current economic climate, I doubt many drivers want to drive pissed students. In fact, Dublin Bus refused to serve UCD for a period. The people of Dublin deserve a proper transport service including buses, bicycles, taxis, trams, trains, metro, etc. They cannot and should not be held to ransom by any single group.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 08, 2019, 11:38:49 AM
I wish there was something positive Taxis are a cash cow for NTA The meter change in January will subsidise those buses and the out of city jobs will become less and less.


NTA don't get anything from meter reprogramming/sealing. Your meter installer gets the money for reprogramming and Legal Meteorology get the sealing fee... although that function is generally subcontracted these days.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 08, 2019, 11:52:11 AM

As a newbie to this sector as in NEW still looking around for a car.

Why don’t you fight back? Is there not a union or group of people that could get together to put forward a well thought out case


We have many unions, in fact the sheer number of unions suggests we are a very united bunch. Most of the unions concentrate on representing drivers who hold DAA permits, in particular those who are white and Irish by accident of birth. Hence they have little or no interest in rocking the boat as far as DAA is concerned. However, as we have seen with TTNH and ITDF, they do rigoursly defend convicted criminals' rights to drive taxis provided those convicted criminals meet the criteria suggested above.

Both Jim Waldron (Enforcer, NPHTA) and Joe Heron (Proprietor, ITDF) have suggested that over 20,000 drivers have left the trade to pursue more lucrative professions/trades/vocations with the former actively promoting lower entry costs. Our largest dispatcher, Free Now, has focussed a lot of it's efforts on recruiting (illegal) (immigrant) drivers to address the shortfall it experiences.

NTA does subsidise vehicles for incumbents and new entrants through it's WAV grant schemes which have run with limited budgets over the last few years.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Octavia1 on November 08, 2019, 11:52:45 AM
Drivers are too busy trying to screw each other over to ever consider any sort of unity.Irish don't really like the foreigners.The immigrants don't care for us.The Polish think their better than the blacks.And most if us don't trust the elephant jockeys.Airport lads aren't liked outside of the kesh.And so on and so on..

Then you have Freenow trying to play us off against each other with ranking systems and ambassador programs.The job is a steaming pile of shite but nobody can sack us so we stay and become bitter...sometimes...
+1
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: gbowden on November 08, 2019, 12:20:19 PM
The fact is, this COULD actually be a viable industry if the incumbents in it stopped constantly saying it's only a part time big, it's this , it's that, the truth is there is a good living to be made if the people operating within it actually showed the NTAwe cared about our livlehoods. There should be a concerted effort by full time fully legal , fully complaint, full professional drivers to show the NTA, and others we care. You can ant expect them to give a fukk if we dont

You refuse to listen Dalymount .There is no suck legal entity as a Full Time taxi driver .A supreme court judge upheld that .Why do you think anybody can get a PSV licence why do you think we can still get WAVs Read the Court judgement and stop spouting crap .

Thats not true, you have to pass a test for starters, you then have to apply and get garda vetted. Plus if you have a criminal record your application will be revoked.

You Dont have aTAXI licence You do not have to pass any test to get a Taxi licence .You need to pass a test to get a Public Service Driving Licence .

Are you sure????
see below what i had to do to get my Licence

For your application you will require the following:

The receipt for your licence fee
Your photographs
Evidence that you are tax compliant
Your driving licence
Your SPSV Skills Development Certificate
A written undertaking that you will not drive an SPSV for more than 11 hours on any three consecutive days
Details of any other occupation in which you are engaged, and, if that other occupation involves driving, evidence that you have informed the employer of your intention to apply for an SPSV driver licence
A declaration that your health does not materially affect your ability to drive an SPSV
A declaration that you have not been convicted of any of the offences specified in section 30(3) or the Schedule to the Consolidated Taxi Regulation Acts 2013 and 2016
Any other documents requested by An Garda Síochána.

Thats for your DRIVING LICENCE application NOTHING to Do with a TAxi Licence .

Is it a vehicle licence you mean? I'm lost i thought a taxi licence was a driving licence to drive a taxi?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: gbowden on November 08, 2019, 12:22:15 PM
Drivers are too busy trying to screw each other over to ever consider any sort of unity.Irish don't really like the foreigners.The immigrants don't care for us.The Polish think their better than the blacks.And most if us don't trust the elephant jockeys.Airport lads aren't liked outside of the kesh.And so on and so on..

Then you have Freenow trying to play us off against each other with ranking systems and ambassador programs.The job is a steaming pile of shite but nobody can sack us so we stay and become bitter...sometimes...
+1

Would all the unions not join together to make a bigger union so you have more power?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: john m on November 08, 2019, 12:26:12 PM
Drivers are too busy trying to screw each other over to ever consider any sort of unity.Irish don't really like the foreigners.The immigrants don't care for us.The Polish think their better than the blacks.And most if us don't trust the elephant jockeys.Airport lads aren't liked outside of the kesh.And so on and so on..

Then you have Freenow trying to play us off against each other with ranking systems and ambassador programs.The job is a steaming pile of shite but nobody can sack us so we stay and become bitter...sometimes...
+1

Would all the unions not join together to make a bigger union so you have more power?

Unions are designed to STOP men WORKING  Electricians union make sure only electritians do Electrical work Taxi union keeps the Aurport closed to people who are not their Members other Unions dont want Blacks others want thousands more licences so they can sell them a book keeping service .A union in Dublin wouldnt give a fuck about Country drivers and Local Hacks .
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 08, 2019, 12:27:33 PM
Less troughs would accommodate less snouts, GB. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas. Power to do what, anyway... keep the criminals licensed, keep Dublin Airport out of bounds to the vast majority, campaign for more drivers?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: gbowden on November 08, 2019, 12:36:28 PM
Less troughs would accommodate less snouts, GB. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas. Power to do what, anyway... keep the criminals licensed, keep Dublin Airport out of bounds to the vast majority, campaign for more drivers?

Power to make it a level playing field, I am new so maybe i am niave to it all.

Remember talking to a old taxi driver, they had to pay to open the barrier to get into the airport to get a fair, maybe bring something like this back, but i don't agree you must pay to work the airport.

Is there any studies done in other european countries on Taxi's, how does the UK, Spain, Germany handle their sector.

Maybe there is need for a different way of thinking.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 08, 2019, 12:42:22 PM

 i am niave to it all.

For a new man you catch on fast. Nail, head, direct hit.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: gbowden on November 08, 2019, 12:42:41 PM
Less troughs would accommodate less snouts, GB. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas. Power to do what, anyway... keep the criminals licensed, keep Dublin Airport out of bounds to the vast majority, campaign for more drivers?


Power to make it a level playing field, I am new so maybe i am niave to it all.

Remember talking to a old taxi driver, they had to pay to open the barrier to get into the airport to get a fair, maybe bring something like this back, but i don't agree you must pay to work the airport.

Found a study of other countries, if anyone interested in reading

[url]http://www.ttnh.ie/news/taxi-driver-licencing-doc2..pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.ttnh.ie/news/taxi-driver-licencing-doc2..pdf[/url])


Is there any studies done in other european countries on Taxi's, how does the UK, Spain, Germany handle their sector.

Maybe there is need for a different way of thinking.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 08, 2019, 12:43:08 PM
Airports that i've flown into in the UK are closed shops,they even have an office for a particular cab co in the terminal or just outside....AddisonLee being one of the bigger ones.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 08, 2019, 02:00:20 PM
I have always believed it's THEY who should be paying the DRIVERS for providing a service to their customers. Can you imagine a situation where a plane lands and no taxis there to service the requirements of the passengers ?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 08, 2019, 02:37:01 PM
Should the bars and restauants get paid too?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: stonethecrows on November 08, 2019, 02:57:02 PM
Should the bars and restauants get paid too?
Should FN pay their drivers ?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 08, 2019, 02:59:49 PM
Free Now pay's it's drivers. It's top driver was paid €133,000 last year.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 08, 2019, 03:01:59 PM
I think the DAA would love to get rid of the Kesh...that's valuable land,how much do the fees generated by those permits net for the DAA?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 08, 2019, 03:04:51 PM
Probably well below the commercial value of the land. I guess it could contract the service out like Stansted if it wanted to. It did threaten to do that during the great strike of 2000.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: stonethecrows on November 08, 2019, 03:05:11 PM
I think the DAA would love to get rid of the Kesh...that's valuable land,how much do the fees generated by those permits net for the DAA?
And what is stopping them ?

Get rid of the Kesh and open the gates, never be a shortage of Joe's then
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 08, 2019, 03:06:35 PM
Where would the taxis queue? If they contracted the service out to Lynk or Free Now that would be someone else's problem, I guess.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 08, 2019, 03:12:45 PM
I think the DAA would love to get rid of the Kesh...that's valuable land,how much do the fees generated by those permits net for the DAA?
And what is stopping them ?

Get rid of the Kesh and open the gates, never be a shortage of Joe's then

Nothing stopping them but therein lies the problem, there no doubt would be queues of taxis clogging up the kip,at the moment they control the amount of taxis via permits.....just look at the amount of FN gimps parked up at Mackers and the petteril station,back of Kielys,The Coachmans...and waiting in the pay car parks.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 08, 2019, 03:17:31 PM
To be fair, there's probably as many Lynk men as Free Now men clogging up the airport. Maybe they could find a way to accommodate them all at commercial rates e.g by contracting one terminal to Lynk and the other to Free Now with new multi storey car parks for queuing taxis?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 08, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
The DAA probably feel they're doing enough providing space for transport for their customers.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 08, 2019, 03:42:08 PM
I hope they open it up to all, that wayi might have a chance by working the streets, at the moment it's fukkin hard to say the least, but will I align,??? Will I fukk
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 08, 2019, 03:48:42 PM
You're just a trouble maker rebel Dalyer!! lol
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: silverbullet on November 08, 2019, 03:49:22 PM
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Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 08, 2019, 03:54:04 PM
That's it SB.....inconsiderate arseholes parking in electric and disabled bays......
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: silverbullet on November 08, 2019, 03:55:33 PM
That's it SB.....inconsiderate arseholes parking in electric and disabled bays......
They should be charged! 8)
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 08, 2019, 03:58:17 PM
That's it SB.....inconsiderate arseholes parking in electric and disabled bays......
They should be charged! 8)

Fully!!
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: silverbullet on November 08, 2019, 04:07:01 PM
All FN drivers n Circle k garages should be told "2P off"  8)
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 08, 2019, 04:11:30 PM
All FN drivers n Circle k garages should be told "2P off"  8)

They'll probably just wash their hands of it.....or not!!
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Bob Shillin on November 08, 2019, 04:22:13 PM
A week of taxi drivers not using Airport Special K would soon change their attitude.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: silverbullet on November 08, 2019, 04:28:15 PM
A week of taxi drivers not using Airport Special K would soon change their attitude.
But that's smart - and the reason why others are driving taxis.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dublin2018 on November 08, 2019, 04:43:53 PM
Free Now pay's it's drivers. It's top driver was paid €133,000 last year.
Freenow called me recently and said top driver was €120,000 .I dont do Freenow anymore I just dont like its style, each to there own ratings and customers think they own you.
 That driver must be sleeping in the car and the tax payment on 120k would be massive, as over 35k you are on the 40% plus USC plus PRSI bringing tax return to 50% €133K a year is €2557.69 per week think its a pork pie  rofl
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 08, 2019, 04:48:38 PM
Free Now pay's it's drivers. It's top driver was paid €133,000 last year.
Freenow called me recently and said top driver was €120,000 .I dont do Freenow anymore I just dont like its style, each to there own ratings and customers think they own you.
 That driver must be sleeping in the car and the tax payment on 120k would be massive, as over 35k you are on the 40% plus USC plus PRSI bringing tax return to 50% €133K a year is €2557.69 per week think its a pork pie  rofl

Did they happen to mention was that 120k after commission and hospitality charges were deducted? lol
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: silverbullet on November 08, 2019, 04:49:31 PM
Free Now pay's it's drivers. It's top driver was paid €133,000 last year.
Freenow called me recently and said top driver was €120,000 .I dont do Freenow anymore I just dont like its style, each to there own ratings and customers think they own you.
 That driver must be sleeping in the car and the tax payment on 120k would be massive, as over 35k you are on the 40% plus USC plus PRSI bringing tax return to 50% €133K a year is €2557.69 per week think its a pork pie  rofl
Their top driver has multiple personalities...allegedly.  8)
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dublin2018 on November 08, 2019, 05:16:10 PM
No wonder every NaanVan is plastered in FREENOW all looking for the Golden ticket.Imagine earning €2500 a week Id be on holidays 2 weeks of every month. €5000 a month would do me rofl.Freenow drivers earn more then the Minister for transport
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 08, 2019, 05:17:37 PM
In fairness SB...i think most taxi drivers have!! lol
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: silverbullet on November 08, 2019, 08:08:51 PM
In fairness SB...i think most taxi drivers have!! lol
Are you talking to us? 8)
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 08, 2019, 09:00:59 PM
In fairness SB...i think most taxi drivers have!! lol
Are you talking to us? 8)

We are!!
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: taxi1990 on November 08, 2019, 10:16:59 PM
No wonder every NaanVan is plastered in FREENOW all looking for the Golden ticket.Imagine earning €2500 a week Id be on holidays 2 weeks of every month. €5000 a month would do me rofl.Freenow drivers earn more then the Minister for transport




At least the free now drivers contribute to society. probably why they earn more ;)
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dublin2018 on November 09, 2019, 12:17:33 PM
No wonder every NaanVan is plastered in FREENOW all looking for the Golden ticket.Imagine earning €2500 a week Id be on holidays 2 weeks of every month. €5000 a month would do me rofl.Freenow drivers earn more then the Minister for transport




At least the free now drivers contribute to society. probably why they earn more ;)
Wait till the TAXMAN gets hold of them rofl...I was talking to a driver who does over €1000 a week on Freenow and he paid €500 Tax last year .How long will it last?.Then again would the Revenue target a newbie?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 09, 2019, 01:23:57 PM
500 ? I paid 1800 now that was including PRSI , but the Ballance was tax
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dublin2018 on November 09, 2019, 01:30:05 PM
500 ? I paid 1800 now that was including PRSI , but the Ballance was tax
I payed over 2K obviously App drivers think they Tax exempt rofl
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 09, 2019, 02:31:19 PM
Well I'm not with any dispatcher at all, so I get considerably less work then most
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 09, 2019, 02:52:34 PM
Well I'm not with any dispatcher at all, so I get considerably less work then most

Well played Dalyer!!

@Dublin2018
With regard to what someone earns and what they pay in tax liability,they might have a 40k loan on a jammer plus all their personal allowances to factor in before their liability is calculated.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: silverbullet on November 09, 2019, 06:45:13 PM
Any of the Naan van drivers on the BTWEA scheme?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dublin2018 on November 10, 2019, 05:38:25 AM
Well I'm not with any dispatcher at all, so I get considerably less work then most

Well played Dalyer!!

@Dublin2018
With regard to what someone earns and what they pay in tax liability,they might have a 40k loan on a jammer plus all their personal allowances to factor in before their liability is calculated.
Not many 40K loans out there as most high freenow earners are Naan vans brought in from the UK,plus finance companys only do a taxi loan for 3 years as vehicle depreciates to much.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: dalymount on November 10, 2019, 05:42:49 AM
What is a bleedin naan can would ya mind tellin me ?
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 10, 2019, 01:03:04 PM
Cripplewagen with a foreign driver....possibly Indian(naan bread)
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Shallowhal on November 10, 2019, 01:06:44 PM
Well I'm not with any dispatcher at all, so I get considerably less work then most

Well played Dalyer!!

@Dublin2018
With regard to what someone earns and what they pay in tax liability,they might have a 40k loan on a jammer plus all their personal allowances to factor in before their liability is calculated.
Not many 40K loans out there as most high freenow earners are Naan vans brought in from the UK,plus finance companys only do a taxi loan for 3 years as vehicle depreciates to much.

My point being there's not a straight line between earnings and tax liability.
Title: Re: 24 hour bus service
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 10, 2019, 01:35:27 PM
He might not work many weeks. I've had weeks where I've taken well over a grand working for Free Now... and many more weeks where I haven't worked at all.