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Title: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Frantaximan112233 on December 02, 2019, 07:18:26 PM
So I see free now are starting to offer wheelchair accessible car training for drivers. As a part of this they are also going to start forcing WAV drivers to take at least one wheelchair job per week or they will remove your access to the app. I have a few problems with this. Firstly I've had wheelchair jobs offered to me that where miles away or in the middle of really bad areas. I took one outside they city West hotel one night and it turned out to be a gang of ropey fuckers who hit the wheelchair taxi button on the app because they thought they'd get a 7 seater, thank God I wasn't a seven seater as I felt if they'd gotten in the car I'd have been toast. So if I don't take they first few wheelchair jobs for whatever reason that I'm offered in a week and then I'm offered one in a dodgy area and it's the last one that week I get banned?
Also I feel as I pay free now for a service that they shouldn't be dictating to me as to which jobs I should take or should not take?
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 02, 2019, 07:22:13 PM
I find them OK provided you obey the rules. If you mess about you'll be sacked, they've made that perfectly clear in several communications. Hence if they say you have to cover a wheelchair job, cover a wheelchair job and you'll have no issues.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: mercenary for hire on December 02, 2019, 07:29:25 PM
How often do you get offered these type of jobs?
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Horse on December 02, 2019, 07:32:54 PM
Could you get one of your mates or missus or something to order a WC cab fran? Just make sure your standing right beside them when you do, do the cash job and you're  sorted.

Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Frantaximan112233 on December 02, 2019, 07:37:42 PM
Guys I've no problem doing the jobs it's just that they aren't always what they seem. I've taken two recently that were just drinks that had hit wheelchair cos they were drunk. The problem is will I now have to chase these jobs just to make sure I get one. Will I have to accept one of these jobs in a bad area and again I'm paying them for a service, this changes the dynamic to me working for them.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: mercenary for hire on December 02, 2019, 07:38:47 PM
Just ring they passenger and ask them of they definitely need a wheelchair van.It's the price you pay for getting an almost free taxi plate.I paid nearly 6k for my saloon plate.Not that much but the wheelie one was only 125/250 can't remember exactly.Also you're getting to keep your vehicle until it's 15 years old which is a huge plus.Saloon drivers have to fork out more cash when our cars are 10.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Frantaximan112233 on December 02, 2019, 07:40:21 PM
How often do you get offered these type of jobs?
Sometimes a few a day/week, sometimes might not get many.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 02, 2019, 07:41:21 PM
I guess you should report clients who abuse the system. I would be inclined to refuse service and apply for a no contact fee also. In reality, they are letting you do work they own so you are working for them. It's their work so it's up to them who they allow access it and on what terms.

Could you argue for priority status or a gold medal or something for covering a job over a certain distance away?
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Frantaximan112233 on December 02, 2019, 07:42:46 PM
Just ring they passenger and ask them of they definitely need a wheelchair van.It's the price you pay for getting an almost free taxi plate.I paid nearly 6k for my saloon plate.Not that much but the wheelie one was only 125/250 can't remember exactly.Also you're getting to keep your vehicle until it's 15 years old which is a huge plus.Saloon drivers have to fork out more cash when our cars are 10.

Again no problems doing this kind of work. My main issue is with a company providing me a service now dictating to me what way I use the service. And really, 6000, you poor fella, how do you afford to live. Tell you what I'll give u my plate for free and 10000 grand for yours.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Frantaximan112233 on December 02, 2019, 07:44:33 PM
I guess you should report clients who abuse the system. I would be inclined to refuse service and apply for a no contact fee also. In reality, they are letting you do work they own so you are working for them. It's their work so it's up to them who they allow access it and on what terms.
If we think like this we won't have an industry left in a few years. It's taxi work and we drive the taxis, if we don't take their work, they will cease to exist in the market. It's your work, they put us and the customer together
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 02, 2019, 07:48:10 PM
It was your/our work but we gave it two them so now it's their work. We won't refuse to cover it, they know that, but if we did it would merely strengthen their hand in lobbying for P2P rideshare. They already use clapped out shiteboxes masquerading as limousines and hackneys to cover taxi eHails, they will use private cars if/when the regulatory framework permits.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: mercenary for hire on December 02, 2019, 07:48:11 PM
^^^^I'm doing alright now fran but ten years ago it was gick out there.If you weren't on the road back then I can tell you your takings were about 60% less per shift so be happy.

I was actually considering buying a wheely van.The 15-year rule might be the deciding factor.I'd happily do one shit job a week to avoid spending 2500 a year on replacing my saloon for 5 years.

Freenow are obliged as part of their despatch operators licensing conditions to cover some capper work.You are part of their network.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: watty on December 02, 2019, 07:52:55 PM
So I see free now are starting to offer wheelchair accessible car training for drivers. As a part of this they are also going to start forcing WAV drivers to take at least one wheelchair job per week or they will remove your access to the app. I have a few problems with this. Firstly I've had wheelchair jobs offered to me that where miles away or in the middle of really bad areas. I took one outside they city West hotel one night and it turned out to be a gang of ropey fuckers who hit the wheelchair taxi button on the app because they thought they'd get a 7 seater, thank God I wasn't a seven seater as I felt if they'd gotten in the car I'd have been toast. So if I don't take they first few wheelchair jobs for whatever reason that I'm offered in a week and then I'm offered one in a dodgy area and it's the last one that week I get banned?
Also I feel as I pay free now for a service that they shouldn't be dictating to me as to which jobs I should take or should not take?
Can't remember what it's called but the default distance limit something like 2.5km.  Set the distance limit to 1km.  If they offer you jobs outside that limit, refuse them.  If FN kick up, say FN works for you & *you've* set the limit at 1km.  They put the option in the app so they can't complain if you choose to use it?

Maybe change your profile on the app to a 6 or 8 seater taxi with no wheelchair option?

The only people you have to keep happy re wheelchair jobs are the NTA?
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 02, 2019, 08:03:33 PM
If you work for a dispatch firm you have to obey their rules... if you don't like the rules don't work for them... simples.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: dalymount on December 02, 2019, 10:31:29 PM
There you go, rat has said it, if you work FOR a dispatcher, you obay their rules. The problem with that is though, you do not work FOR a dispatcher, you work WITH a dispatcher. but now, because of your willingness to allow all dispatchers to call the shots, they have you all by the balls. Threats that you will be removed from the system. Why the fukk don't you all organise yourselfs ;and take back control ? I don't know how you didn't see this coming where you would all end up as emoyees
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Korky on December 02, 2019, 11:00:39 PM
Have they actually said this? I know a few Wav owners and they haven’t been threatened.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Taxi driver42 on December 02, 2019, 11:55:34 PM
Could you get one of your mates or missus or something to order a WC cab fran? Just make sure your standing right beside them when you do, do the cash job and you're  sorted.



Problem solved
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: john m on December 03, 2019, 10:19:27 AM
soon they will insist car drivers cover all jobs offered .
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Shallowhal on December 03, 2019, 10:24:10 AM
soon they will insist car drivers cover all jobs offered .

Very good John.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Taxi driver42 on December 03, 2019, 10:45:07 AM
soon they will insist car drivers cover all jobs offered .


Like 8202020 if u sent back a job it was u knocked off system and u called in to write down why it sent back

Yes WRITE down lol
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: dalymount on December 03, 2019, 10:52:27 AM
Did the explaination letter begin with please sir Mr Ebbs ? I cannot believe you . Your winding us up. are you seriously telling us that a SELF EMPLOYED driver had to explain to Ebbs why he didn't want a job ???? will ya stop your winding us up
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 03, 2019, 10:57:39 AM
When you're 400 down a week before you start you just end up doing the account work to facilitate the bosses. The Dargle river is full of lads washing themselves after a Fri night,,,....no rest for them.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: dalymount on December 03, 2019, 11:25:49 AM
This has to be the only industry where the SELF EMPLOYED are NOT SELF EMPLOYED. the drivers actually gave control of THEIR industry to a bunch of cunts who would be more suited to being featured on the front pages of the Sunday world newspaper then masquerading as legitimate business men .
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Octavia1 on December 03, 2019, 01:28:10 PM
I cant wait to see wat the freenow uniforms will look like  rofl
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Octavia1 on December 03, 2019, 01:29:02 PM
I wonder will gok be involved  rofl
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Shallowhal on December 03, 2019, 01:53:39 PM
I wonder will gok be involved  rofl

I'd say they'll be gik.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 03, 2019, 03:07:13 PM
Could you get one of your mates or missus or something to order a WC cab fran? Just make sure your standing right beside them when you do, do the cash job and you're  sorted.



Problem solved

He could be single/separated/divorced and have no mates.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Shallowhal on December 03, 2019, 03:13:46 PM
Could you get one of your mates or missus or something to order a WC cab fran? Just make sure your standing right beside them when you do, do the cash job and you're  sorted.



Problem solved

He could be single/separated/divorced and have no mates.

Don't think Octy drives a WAV.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Lizzzy on December 03, 2019, 03:30:44 PM
You're with them by choice, you do as they say. Shit or get off the pot!!
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Horse on December 03, 2019, 03:41:30 PM
Could you get one of your mates or missus or something to order a WC cab fran? Just make sure your standing right beside them when you do, do the cash job and you're  sorted.



Problem solved

He could be single/separated/divorced and have no mates.
Leave it out Charles,  that's a good way to get around that. You're just freaked you didn't think of it first.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 03, 2019, 07:07:38 PM
No, I don't drive a WAV... keeping the "naan vans" working for Free Now is of no advantage to me.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: mercenary for hire on December 03, 2019, 07:15:17 PM
Something occurred to me yesterday...nobody ever mentions the 15 year rule for wheelies.Is it possible some of their drivers don't even realise they can be worked until they're 15.

I wonder how they're holding up under bigger mileage.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: silverbullet on December 03, 2019, 07:18:31 PM
Something occurred to me yesterday...nobody ever mentions the 15 year rule for wheelies.Is it possible some of their drivers don't even realise they can be worked until they're 15.

I wonder how they're holding up under bigger mileage.
A 15 year old French heap, dis ya ever hear the likes?
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 03, 2019, 07:18:52 PM
I was passed by a 1998 Hiace on Saturday night... while travelling on the M1 at the maximum permissible speed of 80 kilos/hour I might add.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: markmiwurdz on December 03, 2019, 07:52:16 PM
. keeping the "naan vans" working for Free Now is of no advantage to me.

Naan Vans  rofl rofl
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Taxi driver42 on December 03, 2019, 09:48:47 PM
Something occurred to me yesterday...nobody ever mentions the 15 year rule for wheelies.Is it possible some of their drivers don't even realise they can be worked until they're 15.

I wonder how they're holding up under bigger mileage.

Peugeot wont make 15
Lucky to make 8 on high milsge
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: dalymount on December 03, 2019, 09:56:29 PM
What is a bleedin naan can , will yis talk English ffs?
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Shallowhal on December 04, 2019, 12:07:23 AM
What is a bleedin naan can , will yis talk English ffs?

It's mainly Indian/Pakistani driving them....hence the Naan Van reference.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Taxi driver42 on December 04, 2019, 09:09:03 AM
What is a bleedin naan can , will yis talk English ffs?

It's mainly Indian/Pakistani driving them....hence the Naan Van reference.


A Indian guy told me he hates the Peugeot  it reminds him.of a ambulance they have back home
Like driving a ambulance he said
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: mercenary for hire on December 04, 2019, 09:34:44 AM
Some of them Partners are coming in with only 10000 miles on them.They look nearly new.Something to do with generous grants for disabled folks in the UK.I think they're poxy looking but reckon a bloke doing 25k a year might make one last a bit longer.Maybe even until 15 years.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2019, 12:52:20 PM
A Indian guy told me he hates the Peugeot  it reminds him.of a ambulance they have back home
Like driving a ambulance he said

Plenty lot of taximen work for the emergency services. A lot of the lads in the retained fire service in the beautiful seaside resort town of Balbriggan drive cabs for a living and I know at least one taxman who works for DFB.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 04, 2019, 12:58:30 PM
How long did Frank Carson live in Balbriggan?...
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2019, 01:11:05 PM
I don't know, LL. I know he moved here in the 50s after spending his honeymoon here and served at least one term as Lord Mayor. It was well before my time but proposals to name a street or landmark in his honour still surface from time to time, he was certainly in the running for Harry Reynolds Road. Maybe there'll be something in the redevelopment/destruction of the harbour or the proposed extension of the nature trail/walkway to Skerries but don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 04, 2019, 01:15:29 PM
Well, ok, but every line-up he did that lasted longer than 10 mins he mentioned the "beautiful"...."seaside"...."resort" of etc...just thought you were aping him a bit there............I did think he was funny, btw.........Crossword Clue...7 across....8 down..."Flightless bird from Iceland".......

Frozen Chicken.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2019, 01:20:31 PM
I wasn't intentionally quoting or paraphrasing him.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on December 04, 2019, 01:23:43 PM
Relax FFS.....as if you give a fuck either way....last time I was out that way I have to say it still retains its natural beauty but there's an air of menace about it....Skerries women and the way they might look at your wallet...
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2019, 01:32:40 PM
Times are a changing, there's fields full of houses and flats these days occupied by folk you wouldn't see in town from end of the year to the next... mostly Dublin migrants who spend 10% of their lives on a motorway or train. We had a good drink last night to mark the passing of Jimmy Reilly - publican, bookmaker and a true gent, genuinely one of the nicest men you'd ever meet.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: silverbullet on December 04, 2019, 02:43:28 PM
I don't know, LL. I know he moved here in the 50s after spending his honeymoon here and served at least one term as Lord Mayor. It was well before my time but proposals to name a street or landmark in his honour still surface from time to time, he was certainly in the running for Harry Reynolds Road. Maybe there'll be something in the redevelopment/destruction of the harbour or the proposed extension of the nature trail/walkway to Skerries but don't hold your breath.
Do the Moriartys still run practically everything from buses to apartment blocks in Balbriggan?
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2019, 03:11:03 PM
There are a couple of Moriartys who aren't related. The bus man is ex Team Aer Lingus, he's sound. Then there's Luke Moriarty, a West Dublin businessman, who owns the hotel and SuperValu. He tried to poison me several times years ago leading me to conclude that he must be turning the fridges off in the Supermarket at night. Needless to say I don't shop there anymore but the shop was redeveloped a good few years back to incorporate a large block of flats. He also, indirectly, accused me of stealing a meal in the hotel many years ago... and hadn't the balls to see me in person when I went to enquire, instead electing to pretend he wasn't there (he was, a staff member telephoned me while I was in the lobby and told me he was in the function room) and send a manager to apologise for what was a misunderstanding on his part.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: silverbullet on December 04, 2019, 04:05:07 PM
There are a couple of Moriartys who aren't related. The bus man is ex Team Aer Lingus, he's sound. Then there's Luke Moriarty, a West Dublin businessman, who owns the hotel and SuperValu. He tried to poison me several times years ago leading me to conclude that he must be turning the fridges off in the Supermarket at night. Needless to say I don't shop there anymore but the shop was redeveloped a good few years back to incorporate a large block of flats. He also, indirectly, accused me of stealing a meal in the hotel many years ago... and hadn't the balls to see me in person when I went to enquire, instead electing to pretend he wasn't there (he was, a staff member telephoned me while I was in the lobby and told me he was in the function room) and send a manager to apologise for what was a misunderstanding on his part.
John used to be a Tug driver, doing aircraft pushbacks.
A story a local member of the Chamber of Commerce tells is that an apartment block was built, with a certain percentage going to social housing.
The recession kicked in and none of the full price apartments were selling..
Moriarty did a deal with the council to take 100% of the apartment block for social housing.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 04, 2019, 04:10:29 PM
Built by Luke or John? They're not related. The ones Luke built are part of the SuperValu complex, I have seen the occasional For Sale / To Let sign on that complex but I've no idea what, if any, social housing it comprises.
Title: Re: Free now starting to force WAV taxi drivers to take wheelchair jobs? Thoughts?
Post by: Shallowhal on December 04, 2019, 04:41:59 PM
But that's not gospel!!