Irish Taxi Forum

Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Rat Catcher on February 12, 2020, 01:38:10 am

Title: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 12, 2020, 01:38:10 am
https://twitter.com/sinnfeinireland/status/1008077032180379649

“Ireland is no longer simply orange and green.
 
“Ireland is a rainbow of identities and cultures.
 
“A place where diversity and difference can be embraced.
 
“Ireland is changing” - @MaryLouMcDonald #SFAF18

https://twitter.com/sinnfeinireland/status/639453244784308224

The quota of 600 refugees that Ireland has been asked to take in is woefully inadequate - @MaryLouMcDonald

(https://i.postimg.cc/m1R0r34v/CN-LVk-SWg-AAKMHr.png) (https://postimg.cc/m1R0r34v)


https://twitter.com/sinnfeinireland/status/1118577625469988864

@M_AndersonSF told the European Parliament  meeting in Strasbourg that - "This is just another attempt to externalise the EU’s humanitarian obligation to help ALL those most vulnerable - regardless of nationality or economic status. No human being is illegal".

[Video available on above link]
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 12, 2020, 07:36:41 am
And the Millennials will be left wondering why they have to rent for the rest of their lives....laughing..

https://www.marxist.com/why-marxists-oppose-immigration-controls.htm (https://www.marxist.com/why-marxists-oppose-immigration-controls.htm)
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 12, 2020, 09:36:14 am
You'll be glad to note that this will be last post for a few days...(phew, they say). Look, I don't care what others think about me and never did. Some lads here might say, "sociopath, psychopath, deluded, gobshite"....etc....all fit when it comes to not toeing the line or being deliberately obdurate and intransigent...who gives a fuck?

There is no cause- only globalism. Mary-Lou is cut from a post-modern feminist cloth and couldn't care a fuck about the 'RA or any of the lads forgotten about in Portlaoise. People here are already competing for finite resources: they're already on zero-hour contracts despite being over-educated for most of the positions they find themselves in; they have no prospect of living remotely near work; they can't plan for a future etc etc ad infinitum. I've read that Deutsche Bank is technically bankrupt...maybe John M can explain what that is, I can't. The world debt is at 270 Trillion dollars......Negative Interest rates in Germany are being discussed as I type by the ECB as a means to release all funds from accounts....we're not far from a total implosion, probably far worse than 1929's crash.

SF are the most clued-in party in this country and their reach extends deep into the bowels of the Marxist E.U.....nothing will stop this far-left wave of nihilism and most of the children of members here will be affected and afflicted for their short time on this planet. Everything you think you own can be taken from you...and it will be....IF you have no serviceable debt. Borrow like fuck lads....remortgage or renegotiate your repayments. This might take 3 or 4 yrs but it is coming..

I'd say when the next election happens, and it'll be before Autumn....SF could run Johnny Adair and he'd top the poll. Most of those voting now think history began with Google's version of it. They put all their trust in a Global Giant that pays no fucking tax and never publishes full accounts. 95% of Google searches never go past page 1....which means, those who can pay the most get their version of events read by the most. And, remember the new religion will be called Baha'I which is the one espoused by all Greens using the buzzwords..."sustainability" and "planetization". I'd say a few of you lads know fucking well what is going on, but are too afraid of meeting disapproval from others...well, so what?....carry on
 ;)
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: dalymount on February 12, 2020, 10:48:51 am
Ah lippy your not leaving us are ya ?
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 10:53:46 am
Ah lippy your not leaving us are ya ?

No he is telling you to WAKE THE FUCK UP /
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Shallowhal on February 12, 2020, 11:08:47 am
Get caps for that gun John!!
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 11:15:43 am
@ Lipp .."I've read that Deutsche Bank is technically bankrupt...maybe John M can explain !DB is Europes largest bank the Germans are Europes biggest savers and their savings were in DB they are not there now .The likes of DB loaned pieces of Eight to Anglo .AIB,BOI .and every despot like Donny T Bob Mugabe you name it DB loanded fueling the global bubble along with the US and UK banks .In the USA they sacrificed Lehmams but saved Bank of America which was bankrupt .In England they sacrificed but saved Barkleys in Europe they wiped out Irish Spanish ,Greek ,Cypriot banks to save Deutche the bail out was only done with imaginary promisory notes issued fron the ECB to Ireland as sovreign debt so that we could pay back anglos debts to DEUTSCHE BANK so saving the largest bankrupt country on the planet GERMANY they loaned all their money to the rest of the world and were not going to get it back but if they could sell the delusion that all the bonds DB had in their vaults would be honoured then the bank and the Nation would be solvent .Now here is an Example of insanity the ECB borrowing rate is below 0 yes Below 0 the bank pay you to borrow so instead of ireland paying interest on the national debt we swap the bonds we owe interest on to DB with ECB bonds meaning the Bonds in the DB vault are returning NO INTEREST for the bank so no earnings so, or when or if cash investors thats Herman and Broomhelga want to withdraw their Euros there is no cash to pay them out .Why the fuck do you think banks issue cards that transfer nominal amounts to other accounts that accept nominal amounts becaust the worlds debt is tens of thousands of times the amount of actual money that exists .There was more cash available in the Pitch and Toss schools of old in Dublin than there is in DB it is trading insolvent but it represents the Might of the Fourth Reich .This is what Brexit is really about two currencies two banking systems laiden with worthless paper bonds with notional value .The Brits only want FREE trade and the right to trade .They will build war ships and planes and roads just like china will in poor african countries and rebuild Iraq ,Syria on credit they will hand over worthless bonds to Zimbabwee in return Zimbabwee will hand them back in payment for roads or schools or weapons .Then those bonds are real money known as National Debt which is never renaged on just rolled over and the country taxes its people to pay the interest .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Shallowhal on February 12, 2020, 11:22:19 am
@LL,
Do you have to wait for a satellite to be overhead to post or sumtin?
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 12, 2020, 11:25:23 am
And the Millennials will be left wondering why they have to rent for the rest of their lives....laughing..


They already are, LL. Going by figures posted on this site in the last day or two a YUPPIE in Dublin today would struggle to buy a gaff in Neilstown. FF/FG sponsored greed has destroyed the country. Our trade is probably a reasonable and easy to grasp example of how capitalism encourages the elite exploit the working classes - as Free Now takes control of what was once our work it systematically decreases the amount it pays us, the drivers who do the work. FF/FG has done everything in it's power to prevent the working classes from benefiting from the economic boom.

I didn't vote for SF so I have no vested interest in promoting it's open borders approach to immigration or it's economic policies. However, it is worth bearing in mind that these policies were formed and promoted from the comfort of the opposition benches and with less than zero expectation of becoming a single party Government.

I don't disagree with any of the quotes in the OP and it's obvious that they resonated very well with the electorate, particularly the younger social media generation. However, any party in Government will have to accept that there are constraints, financial and regulatory. Perfection makes for a reasonable aspiration but a less reasonable target.

SFs latest economic policies are far less radical than what it promoted in days gone by. The party now proposes retaining our low corporation tax rate to accommodate and attract overseas investment where it may once have suggested nationalisation all the way. Stopping the banks continuously carrying forward losses made during the recession is perfectly reasonable given that the taxpayer aleready compensated them for those losses. Can the man that lost his house in the recession offset that against his wages for the rest of his life? I'll answer that for you... can he fuck! Similarly rent controls, capping mortgage rates and increased social housing quotas within private developments are all very reasonable objectives... certainly worth a try, at least.
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Shallowhal on February 12, 2020, 11:34:40 am
Stopping the banks continuously carrying forward losses made during the recession is perfectly reasonable given that the taxpayer aleready compensated them for those losses. Can the man that lost his house in the recession offset that against his wages for the rest of his life? I'll answer that for you... can he fuck!


I can't understand why banks were given that particular dispensation,but then big biz/banks will always trump us mere mortals.
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 11:43:43 am
Lip the Marxist plan is The Fed has loaned trillions at zero interest to Us business like FB .Google apple .They took the coin and not invested it to create jobs they bought back their own shares lets say there were 100 apple shares priced at 1 pound apple own 50 of then they bought 25 more and paid 100 for them which you say why pay so much 100 times what they are worth .Now the market says apple shares are worth 100 each because thats what people are willing to pay .Now Apple that make, no sell phones and laptops really old tech in an evolving world   own shares with  a value of 100 each share now making the value of shares owned by Apple £7500 up from £50 .Now Apple sell off a few of the shares they bought repay the bank .but the price of their original shareholding has increased by 1000% and it hasent cost them a penny .The Stock market is full of examples now comes part two .Apple and google and Facebook actually make money unlike banks both have paper with notional valuation the banks have bonds the big companies have share certificates .Now Apple Google ,FB Microsoft will say if the Banks can do banking with paper why cant we so they will issue Google Dollar ,Face book Dollar they wont be called dollar but the value will be linked to the dollar meaning Google FB Microsoft take all the risk while the FED or American Government control the value of world currencies .The Fed are not loaning out free money to put themselves out of business they are actually strengthening their own hands just like a Mexican Drug Dealer setting up distribution for his product only this product is the Mighty Dollar .The Brits see the writing on the wall and know some of the backward european states will never turn a profit like this Kip trying to sell beef and milk and bullshit to a world that dosent need it .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 12:02:16 pm
Stopping the banks continuously carrying forward losses made during the recession is perfectly reasonable given that the taxpayer aleready compensated them for those losses. Can the man that lost his house in the recession offset that against his wages for the rest of his life? I'll answer that for you... can he fuck!


I can't understand why banks were given that particular dispensation,but then big biz/banks will always trump us mere mortals.

Who ever thought studying Economics would serve a blogger on a taxi forum .Its like this Hal .The banks hold your and my and millions of other mortgages and loans they must stay in business to collect those loans so they must be saved .Now how do you save them first you tell the people with little or nothing or a bit or a lot that if they want to invest or borrow then there must be banks .We need Banks to loan money to borrowers to buy houses to create a market value for houses that the banks hold the mortgages on .Did you notice you couldnt borrow 90 K to buy a Gaff in Ballyfermot years ago but now you can borrow 200K to buy the exact same house .The banks didnt want to create a market of low priced gaffs as that would impact on the Value of their assetts and they would fail to meet their Tier 1 capital requirement .Carrying forward losses and writing off future or past profits is normal business practice .We are taxi operators not accountants its beyond our pay grade .Rat probably explain the technical side of it .Hal the banks with the help of Governments pulled your pecker and gave you a nice warm feeling telling you that on minimum wage plus a £ an hour you could buy a home Governments even gave you a grant and interest rate tax cut .You me and others engaged our Ego and jumped .I know lads bought corpo gaffs in Clondalkin for 10K and coiuldnt wait to sell them for 50 to move to Lucan then sell that and move to another part of Lucan thinking they were doing great that the HOME was an investment its not its where you live .They started out with a Gaff and a small mortgage ended up with a gaff and a huge mortgage while still working the same job drinking in the same pub their birds still shopping in Tesco and the kids getting a lift to school in the morning .Sorry Hal but most people who had mortgage trouble could never of afforded that mortgage in the first place and its going to happen again Gaff on my road just sold for 290 K .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Shallowhal on February 12, 2020, 12:11:49 pm
Most people could afford a mortgage....it was the second mortgage and the mortgage on the gaff in Turkey that they couldn't even rent to cover that mortgage,
I know a couple that did just that....they're now split up,luckily no kids.....they had to sell their main residence and he lives in their second property in the Brig while she rents an apartment that he contributes towards.
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 12:21:28 pm
A lot of Homeless were created when landloards sold or were repossed as you said most people held on unless you were a mortgage broker or banker who lost your Ponzi job and had a million plus mortgage on a house in Goatstown .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 12, 2020, 12:25:35 pm
The council had a deal where they took over private rented houses for a period... think it's a 10 year deal. A few of my neighbours are on that deal.
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: dalymount on February 12, 2020, 12:38:41 pm
Listen im sure its a very interesting conversation that yis are having,but is there any chance yis could speak plain english so that me,and other posters on who are equally as thick can understand ?
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 12:41:32 pm
The council had a deal where they took over private rented houses for a period... think it's a 10 year deal. A few of my neighbours are on that deal.
.

The assett price of those Gaffs will of recovered now so the Banks/Creditors can realise their capital investment along with any rents accrued .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Shallowhal on February 12, 2020, 12:43:34 pm
Listen im sure its a very interesting conversation that yis are having,but is there any chance yis could speak plain english so that me,and other posters on who are equally as thick can understand ?

You want us to dumb it down.....on here..really?
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 12, 2020, 12:44:28 pm
I'm guessing you're addressing the erm, DM? I just skip over his contributions if they extend beyond two lines.
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 12:46:25 pm
Big noise in IBEC complaining that not enough people looking for work he blames childcare costs and transport for keeping women out of the workforce .So he thinks the Government ie us tax payers should subsidise childcare and transport so more people can go to work to make profits for businesses .The more people looking for work the lower the wages offered so what they are really saying is subsidise your competition to compete with you for work .As Lip says we are living in a Marxist World .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 12, 2020, 12:50:41 pm
Child care is certainly an issue.
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 12:52:06 pm
Child care is certainly an issue.
and the answer is Mothers if you cant look after them dont have them .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 12, 2020, 12:58:24 pm
That's an answer. However, we should also try to make working for a living a viable alternative to living on welfare for everyone, including those who choose to be parents.
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 01:00:41 pm
That's an answer. However, we should also try to make working for a living a viable alternative to living on welfare for everyone, including those who choose to be parents.
No prob give everybody a few quid  then increase tax on work for those who chose to do any .As in make work pay ,you do know thats what they mean when they say Make work pay not that workers should benifit from work .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 12, 2020, 01:03:20 pm
If/when SF lead Govt we might see a different approach.
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 01:07:06 pm
If/when SF lead Govt we might see a different approach.

Soup Kitchens .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 12, 2020, 01:11:42 pm
If they manage to scare the public and business owners into an early recession they'll have solved the traffic problems, high rents and high property prices. Resulting in cheaper land and cheaper social housing units.

Fulfilling their election promises the easy way. Genius.
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Shallowhal on February 12, 2020, 01:13:32 pm
Arbeit Macht Frei.......could be the new slogan.
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 01:33:19 pm
I was at a housing discussion with a few of my lefty buddies they bring me for the Craic .One speaker said they should limit the amount of time land is zoned for housing and if you dont use it you lose the zoning .Everybody clapped .I stood up and asked where were the construction workers to build these houses he said they would come in from abroad .I asked where would they live while they built the houses he said they would rent I said so they would put Irish families out on the street and push up rents and due to high rents they would demand higher wages pushing up the cost of construction so even when the houses were built people couldnt afford to buy them unless they were high paid construction workers who would lose their construction jobs because nobody could afford to buy the houses they built .The solution is what we have now big investors like insurance companies and pension funds build for rent the state subsides the rent wont be long before some party say all rents should be tax deductable and then tax the landlords profits to gain back the tax credits offered to renters and the result of that will be no more house building .I offered a different option the state offer Families remember our constitution is based on the family a plot be it for a house or space in a tower block .The family raise the loan if say I want my kids to have a place I use my home as equity for the loan so they can contribute their share of the building costs meaning that the block will be owner occupied using the family home that they were going to inherit any way as collateral now, for their home meaning they dont wish you dead to get the Gaff .Your gaff would never be in Jeopardy as the house or appartment that was built would cover your liabilities if ever sold and the government could guarantee any difference if the value to loan ever dropped below your equity .Im sure most parents would put up the family home if they thought it was not at risk .You are only putting it up as security for a loan for the builder to complete the work as soon as the gaffs are built they become the security for the loan .Your kids get a gaff at cost of building .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 12, 2020, 01:37:47 pm
Would you need builders?
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 01:42:08 pm
Would you need builders?

Depends Modular building seems to work in other countries China built a hospital in a few days you could create processes that could be carried out by women during the time the kids are in daycare or semi to low skilled one or two processes operatives .So the amount of actual builders needed would be minuscule .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 12, 2020, 01:44:41 pm
I wonder if an SF led Govt would bring the Chinese in to construct houses and/or hospitals in Ireland? Them Poles are getting expensive...
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: john m on February 12, 2020, 01:50:34 pm
I wonder if an SF led Govt would bring the Chinese in to construct houses and/or hospitals in Ireland? Them Poles are getting expensive...

We need to watch out see if the Yanks or China move their Irish Embassy to Andersonstown or the Falls Road .Could you imagine Big Dommos young ones youngone moving into the Divis Flats after Angus O Snod gets her a transfer out of her sisters gaff in Cherry Orchard Avenue .Do you think Uber eats would deliver 6 breakfast rolls from Gers Delli in Ballyer to Belfast .
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: silverbullet on February 12, 2020, 04:25:24 pm
I'm guessing you're addressing the erm, DM? I just skip over his contributions if they extend beyond two lines.
+1
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Bob Shillin on February 12, 2020, 06:13:07 pm
I'm guessing you're addressing the erm, DM? I just skip over his contributions if they extend beyond two lines.
+1
+ at least 99% of lookers in... I'ld say.
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Shallowhal on February 12, 2020, 06:23:22 pm
When John eventually gets to grips with paragraphs,commas,full stops,spelling and shorter stories...he "might" increase his readership!! lol
Title: Re: A Nation Once Again?
Post by: Vikkiz on February 12, 2020, 09:26:04 pm
Would you need builders?

Depends Modular building seems to work in other countries China built a hospital in a few days you could create processes that could be carried out by women during the time the kids are in daycare or semi to low skilled one or two processes operatives .So the amount of actual builders needed would be minuscule .
China didn’t actually build the hospital in a few days. The building was already built but they kitted it out in a few days. There is a big difference. But as usual you throw out one shite and claim it’s the truth.