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Title: our new green government
Post by: john m on April 30, 2020, 08:34:09 am
A fella I know that hires casual labour recons get ready for the shit fan interaction if FG and FF do a deal with the Greens .Restrictions will be lifted for a General Election in June as John Mc Guinness and Baby Dev will leave FF and up to 6 other members of FF /FG will resign as well .Rural TDs know if the Greens are in then they are out next election so they will walk to save their own seats .Strange how History repeats itself another civil war 1922/2022.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 30, 2020, 09:42:56 am
Would a firearm be of any use... if combined with appropriate training and properly licensed?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: watty on April 30, 2020, 09:48:11 am
Rural TDs know if the Greens are in then they are out next election so they will walk to save their own seats .
OK, the coffee hasn't kicked in yet but why would rural TD's suffer if the Greens get elected?  Surely only well-off city folk can afford to be 'green' in this day and age?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 30, 2020, 09:55:41 am
They'd get paid for not producing cattle. The last thing they need is more paperwork.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on April 30, 2020, 09:59:39 am
Greens want to cut emissions by lumps that means less cows that means farmers wont vote FG/FF .Its all about TDs looking after their seat and pensions .Mc Guinness and Baby Dev are threatening to bring down the lot both are Republicans and dont see why FF wont talk with Sinn Fein .The TDs are playing politics as they know the Single Farm Payment is going to be cut due to the UK no longer contributing .I have a docket @8/1 two general elections in Ireland in 2020 .Covid 19,second election ,Brexit add in a Sinn Fein Government by the end of the Year .GET A GUN ....
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Octavia1 on April 30, 2020, 10:31:37 am
That ryan fellow has the brain of a 5 year old ....theres some serious mental deficits goin on in that poor cnuts head ....

Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on April 30, 2020, 10:32:36 am
Obviously the greens, or labour will play a part in the next collision government, who would you like to see going in greens, or labour
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on April 30, 2020, 10:51:30 am
A fella I know that hires casual labour recons get ready for the shit fan interaction if FG and FF do a deal with the Greens .Restrictions will be lifted for a General Election in June as John Mc Guinness and Baby Dev will leave FF and up to 6 other members of FF /FG will resign as well .Rural TDs know if the Greens are in then they are out next election so they will walk to save their own seats .Strange how History repeats itself another civil war 1922/2022.

None of that will happen
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Lizzzy on April 30, 2020, 11:09:39 am
A fella I know that hires casual labour recons get ready for the shit fan interaction if FG and FF do a deal with the Greens .Restrictions will be lifted for a General Election in June as John Mc Guinness and Baby Dev will leave FF and up to 6 other members of FF /FG will resign as well .Rural TDs know if the Greens are in then they are out next election so they will walk to save their own seats .Strange how History repeats itself another civil war 1922/2022.

None of that will happen

+ 1
No election for 5 years. They all know SF will run twice as many candidates next time.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on April 30, 2020, 11:11:57 am
Obviously the greens, or labour will play a part in the next collision government, who would you like to see going in greens, or labour

Labour dont have the numbers .FF/FG are both gambling if they lose then who knows what our next government will be .Im not a Shinner but people want a change any change .Can you imagine Greens are anti Farming Shinners Anti industry Profit from the people pro corporate taxation add in a Ganzy load of Independents .time to GET A GUN .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on April 30, 2020, 01:46:59 pm
Obviously the greens, or labour will play a part in the next collision government, who would you like to see going in greens, or labour

Labour dont have the numbers .FF/FG are both gambling if they lose then who knows what our next government will be .Im not a Shinner but people want a change any change .Can you imagine Greens are anti Farming Shinners Anti industry Profit from the people pro corporate taxation add in a Ganzy load of Independents .time to GET A GUN .
If you were a Shinners you could GET A GUN. 8)
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on April 30, 2020, 02:01:04 pm
How appropriate with a handle like silver bullet
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on April 30, 2020, 02:03:29 pm
How appropriate with a handle like silver bullet
You can rent one in Coolock, now that's entrepreneurial! 8)
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on April 30, 2020, 02:11:32 pm
Yes and I know who from as well
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on April 30, 2020, 02:40:51 pm
Can even get it delivered with your pizza....can't be goin out shooting anyone on an empty stomach now could ya!!

Interpol warns that Irish food delivery services are being used to transport drugs during Covid-19 crisis https://jrnl.ie/5088095
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 30, 2020, 02:44:51 pm
You can get drink delivered in some parts of Dublin... so you don't have to eat on an empty stomach.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on April 30, 2020, 03:22:40 pm
You can get drink delivered in some parts of Dublin... so you don't have to eat on an empty stomach.
Do they do shots ?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: watty on April 30, 2020, 05:57:55 pm
The Green Party want a 7% reduction, I believe.  Well, this is what a 7-8% drop looks like...

https://business.financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/renewables-are-the-only-winners-in-historic-decline-in-energy-demand (https://business.financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/renewables-are-the-only-winners-in-historic-decline-in-energy-demand)

The International Energy Agency predicts there'll be an 8% drop in CO2 emissions this year due almost the entire world being in lockdown over the coronavirus.

Also, https://www.rte.ie/news/environment/2020/0429/1135712-green-party-emission-demands-could-cost-40-billion/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/environment/2020/0429/1135712-green-party-emission-demands-could-cost-40-billion/)

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The Green Party is pushing for a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 7% each year until 2030 as a key component to enter coalition negotiations with Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil.

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A key Green Party government talks demand to cut emissions by 7% could cost €40 billion and force decisions on the size of the national herd, agricultural practices and the use of nuclear power, according to new research.

The research -  'Is the new Green Party emissions reduction target feasible and what would it mean for the energy system?' - and undertaken by University College Cork's MaREI Centre for Energy, Climate and Marine, states that the party's 7% emissions reduction aspirations would require "transformative changes" impacting every aspect of peoples' lives.

The independent research group's previous work underpins Government and EU energy and climate policies.

Forget getting a gun, get yurself a horse!




(P.S. The 1st link talks about CO2 while the RTE article talks about 'greenhouse emissions' so the two might not correlate extactly.)
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 30, 2020, 06:51:34 pm
Woulda thought switching the world off for a few months would've resulted in more than an 8% reduction over the year. Have they factored in the inevitable phasing of switching back on and a new "normal" being the end result?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: watty on April 30, 2020, 07:13:14 pm
I guess 2 months of a shutdown = 16% of a year.  Add back in China and Africa as the naughty children and maybe that's where they get 8% from?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 30, 2020, 07:17:37 pm
It's a disappointing number, to be frank.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on April 30, 2020, 07:20:26 pm
Dont forget half the Amazon Forest and over 100% of Australia was on fire so emissions would of be up billions of %
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Cool Boola on April 30, 2020, 07:41:51 pm
Let's build a Green incinerator in Ringsend Eamon..Sorry You tried that..Loose cannon but if he helps to stop killing living things ...its not all bad.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on May 01, 2020, 10:41:36 am
Let's build a Green incinerator in Ringsend Eamon..Sorry You tried that..Loose cannon but if he helps to stop killing living things ...its not all bad.

He wants the national herd culled
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on May 01, 2020, 12:18:14 pm
He blows more shite than the national herd!!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on May 01, 2020, 01:55:05 pm
He blows more shite than the national herd!!


There's a song about that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQsP93NJqK0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQsP93NJqK0) 8)
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on May 01, 2020, 04:47:47 pm
GREEN Party deputy leader Catherine Martin has sharply criticised “shocking” and “disturbing” comments by the Tánaiste and said there is “unrest” in her party over entering government talks.

Ms Martin has cast fresh doubt over whether the Greens will enter coalition talks with Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael following comments by Tánaiste Simon Coveney that Fine Gael would not sign up to the 7pc carbon emissions reduction target if it “decimates rural Ireland”.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on May 01, 2020, 04:51:35 pm
Who the fukk would want those left wing liberal cunts in government anyway ?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: watty on May 01, 2020, 05:26:30 pm
In fairness, she does have a point if what she says is true...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/greens-deputy-leader-slams-coveneys-shocking-and-disturbing-comments-39173458.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/greens-deputy-leader-slams-coveneys-shocking-and-disturbing-comments-39173458.html)
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Ms Martin described it as a “quite shocking comment” from Mr Coveney as Fine Gael had signed up to this target in government under the Paris Climate Agreement and the EU’s Green Deal plan.

You know the old saying; "Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me."

At some point, political parties will have to make good on their promises?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Cool Boola on May 01, 2020, 08:40:09 pm
thats a cracker of a sentince
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on May 02, 2020, 08:51:46 pm
In fairness, she does have a point if what she says is true...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/greens-deputy-leader-slams-coveneys-shocking-and-disturbing-comments-39173458.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/greens-deputy-leader-slams-coveneys-shocking-and-disturbing-comments-39173458.html)
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Ms Martin described it as a “quite shocking comment” from Mr Coveney as Fine Gael had signed up to this target in government under the Paris Climate Agreement and the EU’s Green Deal plan.

You know the old saying; "Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me."

At some point, political parties will have to make good on their promises?
I think Dubya said it best:https://youtu.be/8Ux3DKxxFoM 8)
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on May 03, 2020, 02:37:57 pm
Hearing the Greens are acting the Bollox they want to Support Leo for Taoiseach in any new government FF wont have that .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on May 06, 2020, 01:11:44 pm
Covid payments might be for a few weeks more .My mate in Carlow says Mc Guinness has the numbers there will be no coalition with the Greens .Expect another general election unless there is a change of mind on a National Government .Bit of Covid cash might buy a few votes .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 06, 2020, 01:15:40 pm
Leo has shown pretty strong leadership, I guess. I think DM was even singing his praises at one stage. That has to translate to votes. However, I'll be looking for candidates that advocate tax and spend should an election be called.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on May 06, 2020, 01:24:55 pm
Mc Guinness recons Martin is a useless boillox he let Leo wipe the Floor with him FG get all the Praise for all the good stuff while FF run around chasing their tails .FF are having a rethink they are thinking FF/SF /indies .Belief in FF is if they go into government without SF they are obsolete after next election .FF wont sign off on any coalition deal .Martin wont stand in next election .So expect a summer election ?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Horse on May 06, 2020, 02:47:21 pm
https://www.greenparty.ie/greens-call-for-decriminalisation-of-cannabis/ (https://www.greenparty.ie/greens-call-for-decriminalisation-of-cannabis/)

Whats the chances of this happening now? Zero, zilch,  nada that's what. Usual shite,  say Mass to get in then when they do nothing happens.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Horse on May 06, 2020, 02:50:23 pm
They also say they want possession of up to 5 grams to be legal.  They also want folks to be allowed to grow 2 plants for personal use. How does this work? You'd want to be a pretty shitty grower to be getting a mere 2.5 grams off a plant. Gobshites.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 06, 2020, 03:10:07 pm
Can't see it getting into any programme for Govt but it wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea... not sure about home grown, that'd be hard to tax... but then, so is home brew I guess.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Horse on May 06, 2020, 03:16:32 pm
They'd still get their tax on the seeds, the soil, the nutrients, the equipment and the power but as you say never gonna happen.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 06, 2020, 03:20:22 pm
Seeds would be the obvious target but can you not grow from cuttings - excuse my ignorance if that's a silly question, I don't have green fingers.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on May 06, 2020, 03:30:58 pm
Seeds would be the obvious target but can you not grow from cuttings - excuse my ignorance if that's a silly question, I don't have green fingers.

Did there not use to be a joke about miss Piggies fanny and the answer was Green Fingers ?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 06, 2020, 03:39:38 pm
No or Yes depending on how, or if, one interprets the double negative.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Horse on May 06, 2020, 03:44:54 pm
Seeds would be the obvious target but can you not grow from cuttings - excuse my ignorance if that's a silly question, I don't have green fingers.

There are two types of cannabis plants. Traditional photoperiods, which only flower after receiving continuous cycles of 12 hours of darkness.  These plants you can take cuttings from, once they are in the vegative and not flowering cycle. The other  more modern types are auto flowering plants which start flowering when they reach maturity, normally after 3 weeks, regardless of the light schedule.  They achieved these types of plants by crossing different strains with strains from siberia and other such places where during summer there is 24 hours of light. The only problem is you cannot take cuttings from auto flowering plants as there life cycle is finite from the day they come up above ground.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: C5 on May 06, 2020, 03:54:59 pm
That green snot Ryan whats the whole country to get its energy from wind turbines and solar. I hoped he watched Michael Moore's new documentary, planet of the humans its free on youtube and it has pissed the greenies and the left off big time, Michael Moore was a lefty hates trump and has just stabbed them in the back. Plus the media here haven't mentioned or talked about his latest documentary like they did for bowling for columbine and the other big ones he has done, but this latest one not a sound out of them.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Bob Shillin on May 06, 2020, 04:55:29 pm
The acting minister herself Regina Doherty was on the wireless last week, (think it was Kenny) saying that it depended upon how many jobs the taxi driver was doing as to whether he could claim the money. She said that if he was only doing a few jobs a day where he normally did a lot more then he could get the payment and do those few jobs, whereas if his job number was as normal then he could not
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on May 06, 2020, 06:30:45 pm
Well I was on to the dept of employment affairs today, and the guy I spoke to made it CRYSYAL clear that there were absolutely no circumstances in which the covid pandemic payment could be claimed by anyone doing ANY amount of work. He did say that there is another welfare scheme which permits people to work up to 20 hours per week, but that this most certainly does not apply to anyone claiming the covid payment. Anyone being advised on here  that they can claim it , is being advised wrongly, so I'd be careful
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 06, 2020, 06:43:15 pm
He's wrong. It's there in black and white as published by the Dept. He's also wrong about the 20 hours as far as self-employed is concerned, there is no restriction on self-employed hours if you qualify for Jobseekers Allowance. Ring back and ask to speak to someone who knows what they're talking about.

In fact, Minister Doherty  is closer to the mark. The test is defined as "if your trading income has collapsed to the extent that you are available to take up other full-time employment if it was offered to you". See https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/68c144-what-to-do-if-you-are-self-employed-covid-19/ (https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/68c144-what-to-do-if-you-are-self-employed-covid-19/) for further info.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 06, 2020, 06:47:19 pm
BTW, DM. I going to try to explain something quite simple to you as I don't think you understand the payment we are claiming. We are not being paid not to work or to stay at home. We are scrounging off the State because we have concluded that our businesses aren't viable and, as such, we are required to be available to take up other full-time employment if it was offered to us.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on May 06, 2020, 06:51:18 pm
Rat I have read that, and indeed I know your very knowledgeable in these matters , but the bloke I spoke to was absolutely sure about what he told me . I drew his attention to the depts publication of 3/4/20 he couldn't find it, but continued to state that there is absolutely no circumstances you can claim it while working at the same time.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 06, 2020, 06:55:02 pm
If he can't find their own publications I wouldn't pay a whole lot of attention to him. He's totally wrong anyway... not only on the PUP but also on restricted hours for JA... probably a bloke in his 50s who only found out what telephones are last week and hasn't been trained to turn the computer on yet.

As noted, Minister Doherty seems to know, at least to some extent, what she's talking about.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on May 06, 2020, 06:55:45 pm
Look I'm not arguing with you about this , I'm only telling you what was told to me by an information officer of the dept . The minister says one thing , yet man I spoke to says another, it's a bit like what you said yourself the other day about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 06, 2020, 07:03:52 pm
Fair enough... but if I was working I would claim as the Minister herself told me to. I'd screenshot the link too just to be sure to be sure.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Cool Boola on May 07, 2020, 10:24:05 am
So do you think that people should claim benefits and work at the same time?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on May 07, 2020, 10:39:05 am
Greens frighten the shit out of me, they are pretty much anti everything about the Taxi industry
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 07, 2020, 10:16:12 pm
So do you think that people should claim benefits and work at the same time?

Yes. That's what all the full-time men that needed the job to feed their families anall done during the last recession... and PUP specifically allows the same.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on May 08, 2020, 02:37:40 pm
So do you think that people should claim benefits and work at the same time?

Yes. That's what all the full-time men that needed the job to feed their families anall done during the last recession... and PUP specifically allows the same.
That's taking the FIS!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 09, 2020, 08:30:27 pm
JA and/or FIS.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Bob Shillin on May 14, 2020, 01:35:27 pm
Just got another copy of a letter from Social Welfare to a taxi driver, who was spotted working, with his roof sign on, advising him that his payments were stopped, and inviting him to return the payments already received. Can't post the letter as it includes his name and PPS number
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on May 14, 2020, 02:33:20 pm
You reckon its genuine Bob ?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Bob Shillin on May 14, 2020, 03:48:54 pm
Yes
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Bob Shillin on May 14, 2020, 04:51:43 pm

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Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on May 14, 2020, 05:06:55 pm
That RC's definition of the wording pretty much defined in that letter.....hopefully they'll catch thousands more!!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on May 14, 2020, 05:13:48 pm
I cant read it unfortunately
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: watty on May 14, 2020, 05:29:02 pm
Just got another copy of a letter from Social Welfare to a taxi driver, who was spotted working, with his roof sign on, advising him that his payments were stopped, and inviting him to return the payments already received. Can't post the letter as it includes his name and PPS number
Did the letter actually say he was spotted working or just that his name was on the driver-link website?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Bob Shillin on May 14, 2020, 05:54:20 pm
If I click it and make it bigger I can read it, why can't y'all? It says that he was spotted working.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: watty on May 14, 2020, 06:27:21 pm
My bad!  I did click on it but only read the first 2 paragraphs and got bored  :P  That's ok then (from my POV) - they're looking for roofsigns.  Mine is in the boot.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 14, 2020, 06:56:21 pm
It says "it would appear that you have an income...". Just give them a ring and explain that you don't as you are trading at a loss.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on May 14, 2020, 10:58:28 pm
Probably Definitely best if drivers do not work while getting the PUP
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on May 14, 2020, 11:03:08 pm
If you worked for My taxi there is a record of the job but they can also ask you for the last reciept number and then if its fraud they can read your meter every job you ever done is recorded on there .If your legit you can reprint the last reciept and the date and time should be pre you claiming the coin .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on May 15, 2020, 11:48:05 am
It says "it would appear that you have an income...". Just give them a ring and explain that you don't as you are trading at a loss.
The Government are losing Billions of Euro as a result of the virus. The Civil servants are highly stressed, with some having to work up to 8 hours a day now as a result of the virus.

I'm sure the Covid fiddlers will get a sympathetic ear!! 8)
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on May 15, 2020, 12:09:40 pm
The cuvil service arent the only onesq fukun  stressed
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on May 15, 2020, 08:05:53 pm
Civil servants don't do stress.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: stonethecrows on May 15, 2020, 10:42:25 pm
No sign of the Civil Service taking pay cuts
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on May 16, 2020, 04:07:28 pm
Civil servants don't do stress.
It has been reported that the civil service never look out of the window in the morning, otherwise they'd have nothing to do all afternoon!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 03, 2020, 08:30:38 am
Greens want to cut emissions by lumps that means less cows that means farmers wont vote FG/FF .Its all about TDs looking after their seat and pensions .Mc Guinness and Baby Dev are threatening to bring down the lot both are Republicans and dont see why FF wont talk with Sinn Fein .The TDs are playing politics as they know the Single Farm Payment is going to be cut due to the UK no longer contributing .I have a docket @8/1 two general elections in Ireland in 2020 .Covid 19,second election ,Brexit add in a Sinn Fein Government by the end of the Year .GET A GUN ....

John Mc Guinness on Ivan Yates last night listen to the man who should be the next leader of FF but wont be .Telling it as it is .The 3 party Green FF/FG  COLLISION Government wont happen .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 03, 2020, 10:44:21 am
Ryan strutting around like the high fella well met....was in Govt when we got thrown under the Troika bus and is negotiating with his "red line" issues to become the meat in the threesome sandwich with one of the parties(FF) who they gladly supported(so they could get their emissions based motor tax over the line) in fuckin us up!!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 03, 2020, 10:56:42 am
Ive heard all along this is window dressing Greens are not really interested FF wont get the Party to agree so its a National government of FG/SF /labour Wouldnt have a penny on Mick Martin ever being Taoiseach .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 03, 2020, 11:01:58 am
That's all that matters to Mehole....the Taoiseach trophy....and the pension it attracts.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 06, 2020, 01:27:36 pm
Anybody wondering why Leo went all Lord of the Rings with his speech yesterday and sped up the opening .I wonder if he is getting ready for another election if things improve people back at work and the Cough gone will he take a punt at another election ?FF are in Bits Greens got most of their seats with SF transfers that wont happen next time .Could Leo think another election FG/SF both get about 60 seats then its up to FF to bend over and get rode .EU printing more money .Think Leo is setting this up for another election for end of July .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Lizzzy on June 06, 2020, 02:25:15 pm
Anybody wondering why Leo went all Lord of the Rings with his speech yesterday and sped up the opening .I wonder if he is getting ready for another election if things improve people back at work and the Cough gone will he take a punt at another election ?FF are in Bits Greens got most of their seats with SF transfers that wont happen next time .Could Leo think another election FG/SF both get about 60 seats then its up to FF to bend over and get rode .EU printing more money .Think Leo is setting this up for another election for end of July .

You could be right, money talks.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 06, 2020, 02:26:54 pm
It's certainly in his favour to bring forward the reopening of business and get the economy moving sucessfully again.....he'd definitely be viewed in a different light i have no doubt.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 06, 2020, 09:50:01 pm
GREEN Party deputy leader Catherine Martin has confirmed to party members that she will stand against Eamon Ryan in a leadership contest.

As talks to form a government enter what she described as "a critically important phase" this weekend, Ms Martin has written to members who put her name forward for the forthcoming Green Party leadership election to confirm she is accepting their nomination.


So Leo is going to do a deal with a political party who are going to change their leader ?Might take the 2/1 powers another election this year .Last two weeks of July if the Cough dosent come back .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 06, 2020, 09:59:03 pm
Government formation talks to concentrate on Transport next, god help us
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 06, 2020, 10:03:42 pm
Government formation talks to concentrate on Transport next, god help us


I think the week after next if there is no increase in feever then Leo will say the Greens and FF are just acting the cunt there is an impass and the Country needs a government to fight the cough and Brexit and will call a general election for July .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 06, 2020, 10:12:51 pm
A bunch of Senators are taking Leo to court for not allowing them sit and do their work .Judge might tell him if he cant nominate 11 senators then we need another election .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Punter on June 06, 2020, 10:22:03 pm
He will wait till Sept--everyone in good mood --few quid in their pocket -promises of more cash for anyone not back in work-virus in abeyance as everyone has been out doors--soon as he is elected --we are fucked--
NTA and Leo have identified us as a danger and a virus pool --ie Public Transport to be avoided--how many times have they said it --we are the essential service nobody gives a flying fuck about --
As I said before the entire fleet will be back on street --chasing 20--25% of our former trade --screwing each other while been screwed by our German friends !
If you work for nothing you will never be idle --
Nobody wins on the race to the bottom !
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 06, 2020, 10:52:43 pm
He cant wait that long he will go in July if the cough stays away .He can blame FF and the Greens for not going into government if he waits any later he will have to form a government and Mick Martin as Taoiseach will have the power to call the election not Leo .Funny how He or the Early School leaver didnt appear on Radio Eireann or Telly Eireann today to explain why they fast tracked the reopening .They arent explaining then they dont have to stand over the decision if it goes wrong they will blame Ibec for pressuring them to reopen .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 12, 2020, 09:52:50 am
So Eamo reads an article from the Paper and to make the Point he says N IGGER instead of N***** and the world is up in arms .Half his party think he should resign for LITERALLY saying what the man being interviewed said and not the sanitized Irish Times version and these Fucking Mung Bean munching Sandal wearing Tree huggers think they might form the next government .How long before Dublin GAA supporters are told they are racists because we call Culshies Culshies instead of rural dwelling sports supporters .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 12, 2020, 10:07:21 am
Believe me John,its getting there.you can say absolutely fukk all these days.I often think to myself if people watched old episodes of fawlty towers,and the major describing african cricket players as wags ,fukk sake there would be pandemonium in the beeb
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 12, 2020, 11:21:58 am
Believe me John,its getting there.you can say absolutely fukk all these days.I often think to myself if people watched old episodes of fawlty towers,and the major describing african cricket players as wags ,fukk sake there would be pandemonium in the beeb

You're a bit behind the wicket there old pal....they already have
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 12, 2020, 11:26:47 am
Do ya know it's considered racist to say coloured people but appropriate to say people of colour.How the fuk did that happen?.It might change again by the time I get out of bed.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 12, 2020, 11:30:49 am
Yeah...need to get away from the kitchen table and continue with the decorating that i haven't done since i got up this morning!!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Octavia1 on June 12, 2020, 11:57:22 am
Yeah...need to get away from the kitchen table and continue with the decorating that i haven't done since i got up this morning!!
You started painting in march
Are yu still painting the gaff 3 months later ?
Wer do yu live ? Aras on uachtarain  ???
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 12, 2020, 12:30:07 pm
Yeah...need to get away from the kitchen table and continue with the decorating that i haven't done since i got up this morning!!
You started painting in march
Are yu still painting the gaff 3 months later ?
Wer do yu live ? Aras on uachtarain  ???

Shurrup you.....it's a marathon not a sprint!!

Kitchen,hall,stairs,landing,downstairs jax and ensuite......not to mention...but i will... the outside of the house....that fukin ginagerious tree(that wasn't fukin mine).....only got all that removed from the back garden late Wed evening.....decking powerhosed and recoated,shed painted...and cutting the grass(not horses type!!) regularly......cleaned and washed the gutters...there's more that just can't remember at the mo!!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Lizzzy on June 12, 2020, 12:59:46 pm
Yeah...need to get away from the kitchen table and continue with the decorating that i haven't done since i got up this morning!!
You started painting in march
Are yu still painting the gaff 3 months later ?
Wer do yu live ? Aras on uachtarain  ???

Shurrup you.....it's a marathon not a sprint!!

Kitchen,hall,stairs,landing,downstairs jax and ensuite......not to mention...but i will... the outside of the house....that fukin ginagerious tree(that wasn't fukin mine).....only got all that removed from the back garden late Wed evening.....decking powerhosed and recoated,shed painted...and cutting the grass(not horses type!!) regularly......cleaned and washed the gutters...there's more that just can't remember at the mo!!

That's about a week's work.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: stonethecrows on June 12, 2020, 01:09:37 pm
Do ya know it's considered racist to say coloured people but appropriate to say people of colour.How the fuk did that happen?.It might change again by the time I get out of bed.
Following on from that then it must be in-appropriate to use the term "White People" also !
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 12, 2020, 02:32:16 pm
All this bolloxoligy is fueled by the likes of George Soros
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Octavia1 on June 12, 2020, 02:46:37 pm
Yeah...need to get away from the kitchen table and continue with the decorating that i haven't done since i got up this morning!!
You started painting in march
Are yu still painting the gaff 3 months later ?
Wer do yu live ? Aras on uachtarain  ???

Shurrup you.....it's a marathon not a sprint!!

Kitchen,hall,stairs,landing,downstairs jax and ensuite......not to mention...but i will... the outside of the house....that fukin ginagerious tree(that wasn't fukin mine).....only got all that removed from the back garden late Wed evening.....decking powerhosed and recoated,shed painted...and cutting the grass(not horses type!!) regularly......cleaned and washed the gutters...there's more that just can't remember at the mo!!

Ah but 3 months hal for fuk sake .....swing the lead a bit arnt ya  ::)  sounds like yuv a bit of a drink problem to me
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 12, 2020, 02:51:03 pm
What exactly did eamo say that causes all the shite in the green party ?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 12, 2020, 03:01:54 pm
What exactly did eamo say that causes all the shite in the green party ?

He repeated a quote from an article in the Irish Times,

Sean Gallen says it's 'disappointing' Eamon Ryan used the n-word, but he had 'good intentions' https://jrnl.ie/5120953
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 12, 2020, 05:35:23 pm
Anyone see that auldfella in buffalo falling,was it real,or staged ?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 12, 2020, 05:39:45 pm
Anyone see that auldfella in buffalo falling,was it real,or staged ?

Are ye tryin to say that the cops are putting out the message that they batter old white people aswell? lol
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Octavia1 on June 12, 2020, 06:03:34 pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_enforcement_officers_killed_in_the_line_of_duty_in_the_United_States

I see yur a racist now octavia1  :-X
(https://i.postimg.cc/cgfS9Zyf/so-i-hear-youre-a-racist-now-mouse-e1355353682488.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cgfS9Zyf)
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 12, 2020, 07:14:55 pm
No im of the view it was stage managed hal.did ya see the way he fell,he nearly picked his spot to lie down.it turns out he is a life long activists
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on June 12, 2020, 07:46:03 pm
All taxi drivers look the same I hear.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 12, 2020, 08:26:27 pm
No im of the view it was stage managed hal.did ya see the way he fell,he nearly picked his spot to lie down.it turns out he is a life long activists

He musta brought his blood coming out of the ears Halloween trick with him aswell....clever fuk!!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 12, 2020, 08:43:36 pm
Well Im not saying it WAS fake,but it sure looked like it .the way he fell ,I didnt seem possible to hurt himself.did ya actually see blood coming from him ?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 12, 2020, 09:14:12 pm
Well Im not saying it WAS fake,but it sure looked like it .the way he fell ,I didnt seem possible to hurt himself.did ya actually see blood coming from him ?

Yep....and the third or fourth officer was the one calling for a medic.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 14, 2020, 09:53:46 am
What happens if the Government does happen and yer one beats Eamo to the Head Gardners Job in the Greens ,will he get Weeded out of Government or will he uproot her from the Cabinet if he beats her or will the Greens do like all other Gardners do and cover the whole lot in shit .Which will do most Damage .The Greens in Government .The China Cough or Brexit .I was just thinking what I missed most during the Lockdown .It must of been the Eurovision Songcontest .Probably the Only day of the year when everybody in Europe is United in thinking ...What is this shit doing on the telly .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 14, 2020, 10:21:35 am
I cant bare the thpughts of the greens playing any part in government
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 14, 2020, 10:41:15 am
I cant bare the thpughts of the greens playing any part in government

I think if you followed Eamos advice and planted some salad this government will be falling apart before you get to kill the green fly living on your half grown salad .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 14, 2020, 12:30:21 pm
Listening to The TDs on the Telly .This government wont see Santy .The Early school leaver was answering the question nobody asked .The Greens were planning a revolution the Shinners are still turning their Armalites into Garden Ornaments .FF are talking in circles .People from the Profit or whatever they are are against it because you need to be against it because thats what we do .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 14, 2020, 12:35:15 pm
This could get Funny Just got an E mail from a Green saying if their party dont have a big majority to support the deal they will put the cat among the Pigeons to lay the blame somewhere elsa .They will support Leo for Taoiseach and not Martin .Cant see FF voting for a FG Taoiseach .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 14, 2020, 07:15:43 pm
What happens if the Shinners Nominate Leo as Taoiseach ,and the othere including FG nominate Mick Martin .FG can hardly vote against their own man .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 15, 2020, 10:50:59 am
Leo just announced Big Mick from Cork will be top Dog ,he hasent decided which job he will take .Wake up its up to Mick what job he gives you .You just roll over and get your belly rubbed .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 15, 2020, 11:04:45 am
Looking forward to a FF led government, they're normally good fun
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 15, 2020, 11:09:21 am
Looking forward to a FF led government, they're normally good fun


Will it happen ?Leo out very early conceding to Martin .There must be Doubts He will say My party were willing I even handed over the Keys to the Bosses Pisser to Mick .Yer woman from the Greens the possible new leader is very quiet
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Taxi driver42 on June 15, 2020, 11:23:35 am
Looking forward to a FF led government, they're normally good fun


Will it happen ?Leo out very early conceding to Martin .There must be Doubts He will say My party were willing I even handed over the Keys to the Bosses Pisser to Mick .Yer woman from the Greens the possible new leader is very quiet


Fg look tired
Rideshare? The greens?????

Here we go again
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 15, 2020, 11:31:48 am
Looking forward to a FF led government, they're normally good fun


Will it happen ?Leo out very early conceding to Martin .There must be Doubts He will say My party were willing I even handed over the Keys to the Bosses Pisser to Mick .Yer woman from the Greens the possible new leader is very quiet


Fg look tired
Rideshare? The greens?????

Here we go again

You might not be wrong 42 especially in Down the Country where the farmers will be looking for a few extra pound while they watch the grass grow and wait on their single farm payments .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Punter on June 15, 2020, 11:42:23 am
Maybe Leo has his eye on Phil Hogans job in Europe--handy,tax free and super pension !
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 15, 2020, 11:50:20 am
Maybe Leo has his eye on Phil Hogans job in Europe--handy,tax free and super pension !

Na bigger fish than that .There will be big Changes in Europe after Brexit the EU will sacrifice some big names they need somebody to blame .I would Think Leo is looking at President of the EU or EU Council .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 15, 2020, 12:30:40 pm
Leaders of Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and Green Party agree on draft programme for government https://jrnl.ie/5118335


Strap yourselves in!!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Octavia1 on June 15, 2020, 12:53:10 pm
I taut sinn fein got the most seats or votes or something.is that fianna fail crowd who bankrupt the country gettin in again  ??? ::) short memory most the cnuts ......place be fuked ....an them greens phychos pretendin they care .....gimme a fukin gun
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 15, 2020, 12:54:39 pm
Well the erm always saud time to get a gun,so maybe he's right
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 15, 2020, 01:15:03 pm
Its not a Done Deal Yet .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 15, 2020, 05:32:08 pm
I suppose the only hope we have now is the members of the respective will tell them to fukk off
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 15, 2020, 05:45:04 pm
It might not be as bad as you think, better the devil you know and all that
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 16, 2020, 12:13:56 am
Roy Im the best Political commentator on this Island better than any Journalist writing for any of the Major Titles .I was the First person I know that forecast Brexit in 2012 with the gig you got me in Microsoft .I havent heard any other Major political Jurno say Baby Dev and John Mc Guinness and others will put a stop to this Salad Government .I wouldnt take short odds that this Government will Happen .Leo wants the Office and has set this up for a snap election .If the Huns in Pennys dont get the fever then there is no reason not to hold an election .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Cool Boola on June 16, 2020, 12:43:12 am
prepare to meet thy doom
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 16, 2020, 08:39:38 am
The Bolloxology started already the Newspapers say its a done deal but 3 Green TDs abstained in their party vote .The Government Have a majority of 4 how is that going to be a stable government ,

There are a few on here that are reasonably intelligent so help me understand this dilemma

.Taoiseach ;Sure things are Grand so grand that we are speeding up removing the Lockdown faster than we thought possible Everything is great .

Minister for no work ;Things are so fucking bad we are going to double the amount of weeks we are giving away free money .We havent a clue when the Kids will be back at school .

Early School Leaver :My Department say you should and you shouldnt wear a Mask and we are looking at bringing you togeather with or without a mask by reducing the stay away distance and opening the Gargler if they sell scoff .

Mick the Leader .We have a Programme for guvernment like we had in 1940 .Bikes,houses ,Hospitals Pensions farmers .The sort of issues we always tell you about .

Young Dev :Im delighted to see the Pub the heart of the community reopening as long as they can give you a Feed .It reminds me of when I was above in Dublin going to Catholic University and I would take meself into Mc Gonnagles for a Late Pint and a Four Handed Reel with a few Girdles and You would get the Dinner in the Club because the law said the had to serve food if they wanted the late licence .Tis grand to see we are going backward to the Future me Grandfather would be proud of the Progress we have made as a Republic .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 16, 2020, 09:06:42 am
Going to be very hard to pass the NCT on emissions now with that shower the greens involved
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 16, 2020, 09:41:04 am
Dollyer the first and only time the Greens will influence this Government is when they vote to make Mick the Leader the Leader .Paddy Power offering 1/4 on a Green ,FG.FF coalition that must be the worst odds on shot in the History of betting .Greens need 66% of their Ordinary members to agree they cant get 66% of their TD to vote for it .Eamo is Cycling his Bicycle around and he wants to keep yer one on the Crossbar but she now wants to peddle the Bike on her own .

 Young Dev is thinking the Granda took out Collins Ill take out Martin .FF know their Future lies with SF and not with FG but Mick the Leader knows HIS future lies with FG .

 Sesamy Street in Merrion Street .Sing along if you know the words .Oh one of these things is not like the other one of these things just dosent belong can you guess which ting is not like the other before I finish my song .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: stonethecrows on June 16, 2020, 10:21:45 am
Dollyer the first and only time the Greens will influence this Government is when they vote to make Mick the Leader the Leader .Paddy Power offering 1/4 on a Green ,FG.FF coalition that must be the worst odds on shot in the History of betting .Greens need 66% of their Ordinary members to agree they cant get 66% of their TD to vote for it .Eamo is Cycling his Bicycle around and he wants to keep yer one on the Crossbar but she now wants to peddle the Bike on her own .

 Young Dev is thinking the Granda took out Collins Ill take out Martin .FF know their Future lies with SF and not with FG but Mick the Leader knows HIS future lies with FG .

 Sesamy Street in Merrion Street .Sing along if you know the words .Oh one of these things is not like the other one of these things just dosent belong can you guess which ting is not like the other before I finish my song .
Ernie's Rubber duckie
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 16, 2020, 10:26:04 am
Dollyer the first and only time the Greens will influence this Government is when they vote to make Mick the Leader the Leader .Paddy Power offering 1/4 on a Green ,FG.FF coalition that must be the worst odds on shot in the History of betting .Greens need 66% of their Ordinary members to agree they cant get 66% of their TD to vote for it .Eamo is Cycling his Bicycle around and he wants to keep yer one on the Crossbar but she now wants to peddle the Bike on her own .

 Young Dev is thinking the Granda took out Collins Ill take out Martin .FF know their Future lies with SF and not with FG but Mick the Leader knows HIS future lies with FG .

 Sesamy Street in Merrion Street .Sing along if you know the words .Oh one of these things is not like the other one of these things just dosent belong can you guess which ting is not like the other before I finish my song .
Ernie's Rubber duckie

I was thinking more of the Count meself 78 Tds 79Tds 80TDs 81TDs HAHAHAHAHAHA Burt ,Ernie and Grover with the Cookie Monster and Oscar making up the main part of the Government .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 16, 2020, 10:32:57 am
John seriously I nearly pissed meself with the laughing.your bleedin gas .ill never forget the one about the two lads from donegal who were on the building site in england and they singin noreen bawn.I actually nearly chocked that time from laughing.its dangerous for me to read your posts when im eating
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 16, 2020, 10:45:37 am
Seriously Dalymount Look at what they are offering .Its so 1940 .Bikes ,Social housing ,Trams,Hospitals .Will they restart the Sweep Stakes Draw ?Walking tracks .Reminds me of the Legendary Lord Mayor of Dublin Alfie Byrne who once said we will supply shoes to every child in the City including the footless .We are actually going Backward to Go forward .Look at old Black and White photos of College Green with Trams bikes horses just like today .Im thinking should I get meself a long Camel hair overcoat and a Trilby now before they become fashionable again and will the Girls from the Flats start wearing headscarves that they can turn into facemasks when they go into Pennys .I bet Frawleys ,Guineys ,Clearys ,Mc Birneys Kilmartins the Bookies wish they could of held on long enough to see how much we progressed since 1940 .Sure mow we have the Good Rona disease to replace TB .More people out of work now than in 1940.Its a fucked up world but Ill watch How Green Is my valley later on on netflix to cheer meself up .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 16, 2020, 12:23:51 pm
I reckon they'll manage to get the document past their party members, possibly a hiccup or 2 along the way
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 16, 2020, 12:37:55 pm
I reckon they'll manage to get the document past their party members, possibly a hiccup or 2 along the way

Listening to the Lad on TV 3 he is coming around to my way of thinking that Leo is hoping the Greens crash the deal and New election .Ask yourself why if the Gaff is getting better they are extending the Covid Payments .Trying to buy an election?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 16, 2020, 09:10:34 pm
Good to see investment in the promotion of cycling and walking. If COVID '19 has taught us anything it's that we need to reduce reliance on public transport, in particular taxis.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: stonethecrows on June 16, 2020, 10:07:35 pm
Good to see investment in the promotion of cycling and walking. If COVID '19 has taught us anything it's that we need to reduce reliance on public transport, in particular taxis.
I've just had a thought , if the government do away with despatchers then all the pax have to walk out out of where ever to get themselves a taxi.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 16, 2020, 10:10:16 pm
Get a Grip Taxi driving is for the lads that use to be in remedial reding ,designed to let them think they own their own business .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 16, 2020, 10:19:48 pm
Is there any merit is this breakthrough drug for the virus ? Its used to treat arthritis,and asthma two things I have .I might try it .supposed to be around since the 60ts
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 16, 2020, 10:27:26 pm
Is there any merit is this breakthrough drug for the virus ? Its used to treat arthritis,and asthma two things I have .I might try it .supposed to be around since the 60ts

NO just release a Presser and your share prise rises then the management sell off their shares .Its a Flu nothing more DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW ANYBODY WHO DIED FROM IT >REMEMBER WE ARE TALKING EPIDEMIC .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Pugwat on June 16, 2020, 11:23:12 pm
Is there any merit is this breakthrough drug for the virus ? Its used to treat arthritis,and asthma two things I have .I might try it .supposed to be around since the 60ts

NO just release a Presser and your share prise rises then the management sell off their shares .Its a Flu nothing more DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW ANYBODY WHO DIED FROM IT >REMEMBER WE ARE TALKING EPIDEMIC .
I know 2 who died and a 32 year old who spent 2 weeks in icu in tallaght but recovered l.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 16, 2020, 11:28:29 pm
Is there any merit is this breakthrough drug for the virus ? Its used to treat arthritis,and asthma two things I have .I might try it .supposed to be around since the 60ts

NO just release a Presser and your share prise rises then the management sell off their shares .Its a Flu nothing more DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW ANYBODY WHO DIED FROM IT >REMEMBER WE ARE TALKING EPIDEMIC .
I know 2 who died and a 32 year old who spent 2 weeks in icu in tallaght but recovered l.

Two I know more than that died over the same time including my mother in Law she was 94 died from medical issues but if she was in a nursing home with Phnewmonia they would of recorder Covid as the cause of death .Im beginning to agree with Doc its bollox ,Big Business are Profiting buying good stock for cents on the Dollar .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 18, 2020, 08:36:20 pm
I knew two who died, neither of them taximen / taxi drivers.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 18, 2020, 09:32:17 pm
A member who was active on here some time ago ,and whos father was diagnosed with the virus ,his father unfortunately died a couple of months back from it.he PMd me,but for some reason my messages dont appear to be sending .that was weeks  ago
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 19, 2020, 10:07:29 am
Looks like the Greens are going to take the bait and Form a Government .Im not a Shinner but if the Greens  FG/FF form a government its the end of the beginning for Irish Politics .The Shinners were never even spoken to .A democratically elected Political party ignored .BUT the Government will form an UNELECTED  Citizens Convention to hide behind and let them Suggest we have a Same sex Referendum and an Abortion Referendum because the Elected Dail hadnt got the Balls to propose the Motions .A power grab by the Old civil war parties aided by the Hippies Mung Bean Munching Bike Nazies .After Covid the Environment is the Biggest issue facing the country and the Greens have just agreed to be exterminated by the Irish Political system for the appearance of progress ..TIME TO GET A GUN when the only party with any Principle are Sinn Fein .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 19, 2020, 10:10:39 am
It may not happen.the green membership may not ratify the deal
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 19, 2020, 10:44:21 am
It will be Close Dalymount very close But the Country needs a Government and to Exclude the Shinners because of their Revolutionary Violence by two Parties who were born out of the Exact same Revolutionary violence in Fact both Fine Fail and Fine Gael are the Bastard children of Sinn Fein both Grew out of Splits within the Original Sinn Fein Party of 1919 .FF are Dieing  this is their Swansong .Covid Brexit ,new Digital tax law will mean next election they might not even get enough elected members to get Speaking rights in the Dail just like the dying embers of the Labour Party .After this Parliament the Next one will be a split along most Parliamentary lines, of Left led by SF and Right (conservative ) led by FG .I wonder what price Gerry Adams is to be the next President he must now be the Favourite to follow in the footsteps of Sean T ,Childers Douglas Hyde and the Chief of Staff Dev .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 19, 2020, 11:04:09 am
It will be Close Dalymount very close But the Country needs a Government and to Exclude the Shinners because of their Revolutionary Violence by two Parties who were born out of the Exact same Revolutionary violence in Fact both Fine Fail and Fine Gael are the Bastard children of Sinn Fein both Grew out of Splits within the Original Sinn Fein Party of 1919 .FF are Dieing  this is their Swansong .Covid Brexit ,new Digital tax law will mean next election they might not even get enough elected members to get Speaking rights in the Dail just like the dying embers of the Labour Party .After this Parliament the Next one will be a split along most Parliamentary lines, of Left led by SF and Right (conservative ) led by FG .I wonder what price Gerry Adams is to be the next President he must now be the Favourite to follow in the footsteps of Sean T ,Childers Douglas Hyde and the Chief of Staff Dev .

The current Sin Fein Party founded in 1970 as the Marxist political wing of a terrorist organisation should not be associated with the original Sin Fein which is better represented by FF and FG.
The violence you mention is far more recent and dwells not too far under the surface of many current Sin Fein party members, I've no problem with parties not wanting to deal with them.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 19, 2020, 11:23:38 am
Or did the Original Sinn Fein not just evolve Politically to suit todays Political requirements where as the FG/FF wings just went for political power years ago and aped what they saw in Great Britain .With the exception of Neutrality we almost copied British Domestic Policies word for word .Bertie the Socialist copier Thatcher the Conservatives Right to Buy your council house .One of the Great Mysteries in Irish Politics is why the Labour party never became a force .I often think it was because in General we dont do Class Politics .The Profit from the People and the Shinners saw that gap in the market .They played the 1% against the rest even though most of the Top men and women on the Left had privliged upbringings .I met Brendan Corish in the 1970s and was talking to him and he tild me at the time he became leader of Labour he was the only elected TD with a leaving cert the rest of the Party were workers but then like now the inteligencia like Dr Noel Brown Connor Cruise O Brien saw a way in to the Dail on the tails of working stiffs .I take your Point about more recent violence but does any voter under 40 remember watching Police Messages on UTV in the middle of Cornation Street do thy care .There is a political window of about 40 years in everybodies life Before your twenty your to young or not interested in voting after 60 you learned your vote dosent count .Todays voters are voting for today not for the past and probably not even for the future .I just think  the Greens will be wiped so will FF .This Dail is the Death that leads to the Birth of new Politics in Ireland .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: taxi1990 on June 19, 2020, 11:32:18 am
It will be Close Dalymount very close But the Country needs a Government and to Exclude the Shinners because of their Revolutionary Violence by two Parties who were born out of the Exact same Revolutionary violence in Fact both Fine Fail and Fine Gael are the Bastard children of Sinn Fein both Grew out of Splits within the Original Sinn Fein Party of 1919 .FF are Dieing  this is their Swansong .Covid Brexit ,new Digital tax law will mean next election they might not even get enough elected members to get Speaking rights in the Dail just like the dying embers of the Labour Party .After this Parliament the Next one will be a split along most Parliamentary lines, of Left led by SF and Right (conservative ) led by FG .I wonder what price Gerry Adams is to be the next President he must now be the Favourite to follow in the footsteps of Sean T ,Childers Douglas Hyde and the Chief of Staff Dev .





The current Sin Fein Party founded in 1970 as the Marxist political wing of a terrorist organisation should not be associated with the original Sin Fein which is better represented by FF and FG.
The violence you mention is far more recent and dwells not too far under the surface of many current Sin Fein party members, I've no problem with parties not wanting to deal with them.



+1. id rather the greens with 100% power, us all on penny farthings than have that shower of low life criminals anywhere near government.

The thing that gets me about the shinners is mary lou isnt even a real sinn feiner, she could just have easily joined any other party, she is middle class, went to Trinity, then you see her with her fist in the air and coming out with republican slogans etc its embarrassing stuff.

Going for the easy protest votes then, sure people are never happy with the government in power.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 19, 2020, 11:42:47 am
The thing that gets me about the shinners is mary lou isnt even a real sinn feiner, she could just have easily joined any other party,

She was a FF before she joined SF.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: taxi1990 on June 19, 2020, 11:48:30 am
The thing that gets me about the shinners is mary lou isnt even a real sinn feiner, she could just have easily joined any other party,

She was a FF before she joined SF.

I thought that alright. I hope that party never get to run the country. The normal people who left other parties to vote for them in the last election should be ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 19, 2020, 11:50:26 am
FF should of offered the Shinners a Coalition keep them in check now next Election Mary Lou starts favourite to be Taoiseach in fact she will be a smaller price to be Taoiseach that Mick Martin will be to get re elected .We are heading for Cuba without the Sunshine .SF must be delighted with the Greens even though the Greens won most of their seats on the Dregs of SF transfers they have used those seats to elevate SF into power next time .IF and its an IF this government lasts till next October2021 I will be amazed .I have posted on here for years BREXIT will kill us as a country .The Brits still blame us for the Loss of their Empire not going to do us any favours EU Know we are tax robbing low life scum also not going to do us any Favours .Maybe a SF government will bring a new morality to Irish Governments that has been lacking under the last lot .As I say Im not a Shinner but I dont like the way they were just excluded from any democratic debate on the formation of a government I think that was a mistake or possibly Dictatorship by the Incumbents .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 19, 2020, 12:42:27 pm
Im thinking at this stage big Dommo ,and his crew would make a better job of running the kip.can you inagine tommy two scares minister for gun running ,bridget moloney from the flats minister for prostitution,the erm ,.......well pick your own portfolio for that
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 19, 2020, 12:52:43 pm
the erm ,.......well pick your own portfolio for that

Bolloxology....there could be a couple of ministerial pay and pensions for him in that role!!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 19, 2020, 07:36:22 pm
A member who was active on here some time ago ,and whos father was diagnosed with the virus ,his father unfortunately died a couple of months back from it.he PMd me,but for some reason my messages dont appear to be sending .that was weeks  ago

Sorry to hear that. I recall him posting that his father was in hospital and you enquiring some time after if anyone had heard from him since. Please pass on my sincere condolences should the opportunity arise.

There's nothing suppressing your PMs... although I think there is a facility for members to ignore (or automatically reject) messages from any other members.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 19, 2020, 07:48:00 pm
Well I certainly pass on your condolences if at all possible rat,but I have sent a few PMs to the erm,and one or two others .they were all nice PMs,and I would have thought I would have received a reply on at least 3 of them.this is why I was wondering did they send at all.also I checked my sent box,and there is nothing in it
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 19, 2020, 07:51:21 pm
Make sure the "Save a copy in my outbox" checkbox is ticked. I think it's unchecked by default but once you check it for one message it should stay checked.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 19, 2020, 08:35:26 pm
Ok thanks will do
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on June 19, 2020, 08:55:54 pm
Or did the Original Sinn Fein not just evolve Politically to suit todays Political requirements where as the FG/FF wings just went for political power years ago and aped what they saw in Great Britain .With the exception of Neutrality we almost copied British Domestic Policies word for word .Bertie the Socialist copier Thatcher the Conservatives Right to Buy your council house .One of the Great Mysteries in Irish Politics is why the Labour party never became a force .I often think it was because in General we dont do Class Politics .The Profit from the People and the Shinners saw that gap in the market .They played the 1% against the rest even though most of the Top men and women on the Left had privliged upbringings .I met Brendan Corish in the 1970s and was talking to him and he tild me at the time he became leader of Labour he was the only elected TD with a leaving cert the rest of the Party were workers but then like now the inteligencia like Dr Noel Brown Connor Cruise O Brien saw a way in to the Dail on the tails of working stiffs .I take your Point about more recent violence but does any voter under 40 remember watching Police Messages on UTV in the middle of Cornation Street do thy care .There is a political window of about 40 years in everybodies life Before your twenty your to young or not interested in voting after 60 you learned your vote dosent count .Todays voters are voting for today not for the past and probably not even for the future .I just think  the Greens will be wiped so will FF .This Dail is the Death that leads to the Birth of new Politics in Ireland .
That post looks like newly opened box of Scrabble.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on June 19, 2020, 08:58:14 pm
A member who was active on here some time ago ,and whos father was diagnosed with the virus ,his father unfortunately died a couple of months back from it.he PMd me,but for some reason my messages dont appear to be sending .that was weeks  ago

Sorry to hear that. I recall him posting that his father was in hospital and you enquiring some time after if anyone had heard from him since. Please pass on my sincere condolences should the opportunity arise.

There's nothing suppressing your PMs... although I think there is a facility for members to ignore (or automatically reject) messages from any other members.
Please pass on our condolences.

R.I.P.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 19, 2020, 09:45:01 pm
Or did the Original Sinn Fein not just evolve Politically to suit todays Political requirements where as the FG/FF wings just went for political power years ago and aped what they saw in Great Britain .With the exception of Neutrality we almost copied British Domestic Policies word for word .Bertie the Socialist copier Thatcher the Conservatives Right to Buy your council house .One of the Great Mysteries in Irish Politics is why the Labour party never became a force .I often think it was because in General we dont do Class Politics .The Profit from the People and the Shinners saw that gap in the market .They played the 1% against the rest even though most of the Top men and women on the Left had privliged upbringings .I met Brendan Corish in the 1970s and was talking to him and he tild me at the time he became leader of Labour he was the only elected TD with a leaving cert the rest of the Party were workers but then like now the inteligencia like Dr Noel Brown Connor Cruise O Brien saw a way in to the Dail on the tails of working stiffs .I take your Point about more recent violence but does any voter under 40 remember watching Police Messages on UTV in the middle of Cornation Street do thy care .There is a political window of about 40 years in everybodies life Before your twenty your to young or not interested in voting after 60 you learned your vote dosent count .Todays voters are voting for today not for the past and probably not even for the future .I just think  the Greens will be wiped so will FF .This Dail is the Death that leads to the Birth of new Politics in Ireland .
That post looks like newly opened box of Scrabble.


I had me Scrabble Set out two weeks ago .Im drinking Polish Vodka and Playing records in Nula Brophys house beside the Flats and Big Dommo says .Here its 11.oc you have until midnight tonight to write a story and enter this 600 words about the Waterside .He says If you can win a Prize Ill tell you the story of what really happened the Night I went to the Pictures with Olive O leary and got me Mickey caught in me Button hole of me Levi 501 .Now I never knew anybody that caught their foreskin in the buttonhole of a pair of Jeans so I took up the Challenge .

Hi John,

 

Thank you for submitting your entry to ‘Stories from the Waterside’.  Your story is now registered for the competition and we will be in contact again in due course.

 

Regards,

Irene

 

 

 

Irene Cunningham

Local Authority Water Programme

Tipperary County Council, The Lodge, Ballingarrane Estate, Clonmel, Co Tipperary, E91 X370
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 21, 2020, 08:17:40 am
Ermy im not at all sure the green membership is going to vote in favour of participating in government.when is the vote anyway ?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 21, 2020, 10:29:39 am
results on friday
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 21, 2020, 11:10:55 am
How about this Dalymount .The Greens vote not to go into government .Leo is Proposed as Taoiseach by FG and is supported by FF and the Greens .He appoints 11 senators .The Dail votes on extending the offences against the State Act .its sent to the senate for ratification then Leo goes to the Park and calls a General election .I really cant see it working out with those three parties .There would be more arguments and fights than in a Gypsy campsite .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Punter on June 21, 2020, 11:26:21 am
I concur----all these Friday Virus press conferences should be seen for what they are --blatant electioneering --there will another next Friday with more reopening news--Leo our Savior !
Hope I am wrong as the country badly needs a Government.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 21, 2020, 11:38:27 am
Punter .Two weeks ago it all changed and everything was sped up but they also extended the Covid Payments seems strange to do that if things are returning to normal .The Early School leaver or Leo never went on radio or telly to explain the change of direction or the medical advice for the change .FG on 37% in the polls Leos approval rating sky high his ego is Huge .If they go again Fg get about 60 SF high 50s FF become king makers with low 20s Greens get 2 profit from the people 2 Lad and Soc dems less than 10 between them .Much easier to put togeather a government with that sort of numbers than the Dollymixture of Nutters that are there Now .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 21, 2020, 01:19:37 pm
Throw in David Noris,and it brings a whole new meaning to a RAINBOW coalition
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 21, 2020, 01:31:16 pm
Looking at the Telly and reading papers .This deal wont be agreed .I get the impression a lot of Green TDs stood as a protest vote never thought or wanted to be elected they dont fear losing their seats .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 21, 2020, 01:37:22 pm
I hope your right,the YOUNG  green voters dont seem to be in favour of the deal
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 21, 2020, 01:45:43 pm
I hope your right,the YOUNG  green voters dont seem to be in favour of the deal

Why? What are you hoping for, another election? Then what?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 21, 2020, 01:52:02 pm
I hope your right,the YOUNG  green voters dont seem to be in favour of the deal

Why? What are you hoping for, another election? Then what?


Thats sort of the Question THEN WHAT? Think one or Two Greens might walk on principle .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 21, 2020, 03:09:15 pm
Well I DO want a government in place,but NOT one that involves green participation.they are no friends of motorists generally,and CERTAINLY no friends of taxi drivers
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 21, 2020, 03:30:02 pm
Well I DO want a government in place,but NOT one that involves green participation.they are no friends of motorists generally,and CERTAINLY no friends of taxi drivers

Whats the Green Taxi Policy .I would think they will introduce congestion charges increase fuel tax and Vrt put a lot of private motorists off the road create more work for us .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 21, 2020, 03:36:11 pm
You'll have a hell of a job trying to pass the NCT
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 21, 2020, 03:50:05 pm
You'll have a hell of a job trying to pass the NCT

those limits are set by the EU .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 21, 2020, 03:57:28 pm
Well I DO want a government in place,but NOT one that involves green participation.they are no friends of motorists generally,and CERTAINLY no friends of taxi drivers

Greens don't even mention Taxis in their manifesto, for the most part they ignore us
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 21, 2020, 05:24:03 pm
I'll vote for whoever gets me the helicopter money till Christmas!!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 21, 2020, 09:58:09 pm
You cant beat Gene Kerrigan for honesty ....Green Party members have been studying the proposed Fianna Fail/Fine Gael programme for government. Such diligence is necessary, laudable and a waste of time.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 22, 2020, 12:25:53 pm
How about this Dalymount .The Greens vote not to go into government .Leo is Proposed as Taoiseach by FG and is supported by FF and the Greens .He appoints 11 senators .The Dail votes on extending the offences against the State Act .its sent to the senate for ratification then Leo goes to the Park and calls a General election .I really cant see it working out with those three parties .There would be more arguments and fights than in a Gypsy campsite .

Are RTE researchers reading my posts .This exact question word for word was put to Willie O Dea this morning on RTE .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 22, 2020, 12:46:58 pm
And there under starters orders ....Nothing can be ruled out, including a second general election this year, if parties do not vote to pass the draft government deal, the Tanaiste has said.

Simon Coveney said, however, that he is a positive person and believes the deal can be approved.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 22, 2020, 01:46:30 pm
Id say its 50_50 the greens seem more sceptical of it then the other pair.plus the greens have to get two thirds to approve it,thats a big ask
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 22, 2020, 01:59:22 pm
If the Greens say No and I think they will .Then what .Offences against the state act must be renewed .Only option is Others  agree to vote for Leo as Taoiseach so he can appoint the 11 senators that are needed to approve any Dail legislation .Then the old unelected ministers like Ross and Docherty get replaced Leo might take on all the Ministries so no new appointees then he goes to see Little Mickey in the Park and looks for another election .If that happens under Paddy Power betting rules the Next government is a FG Minority Government priced at 55/1 .I just had a small bet just in case .I also notice the odds on a second election this year have been cut to 13/8 it was 8/1 and the odds on the Troica forming a government has also been cut .Crazy times demand crazy solutions .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 22, 2020, 02:02:46 pm
Ya might see Frances Fitzgerald return,she was very poplar,and very reluctantly sacked
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 22, 2020, 02:04:50 pm
Ya might see Frances Fitzgerald return,she was very poplar,and very reluctantly sacked

She wanted the Park she will stay put in Europe .Gerry Adams will be next President especially if we decide to allow Irish Passport holders living abroad vote in Presidential Elections .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 23, 2020, 10:16:18 pm
If the Greens say No and I think they will .Then what .Offences against the state act must be renewed .Only option is Others  agree to vote for Leo as Taoiseach so he can appoint the 11 senators that are needed to approve any Dail legislation .Then the old unelected ministers like Ross and Docherty get replaced Leo might take on all the Ministries so no new appointees then he goes to see Little Mickey in the Park and looks for another election .If that happens under Paddy Power betting rules the Next government is a FG Minority Government priced at 55/1 .I just had a small bet just in case .I also notice the odds on a second election this year have been cut to 13/8 it was 8/1 and the odds on the Troica forming a government has also been cut .Crazy times demand crazy solutions .


Is Leo now reading my Posts ....Mr Varadkar said he did not rule out being elected again as Taoiseach for a day so he could appoint 11 Senators to the new Seanad, but said it is not something he desires.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 26, 2020, 04:14:39 pm
SO 20% of FG VOTED NO ..The Programme for Government has been approved by the Fine Gael Electoral College.

The overall result was 80% in favour and 20% against. The total vote cast was 674, meaning a turnout of 95%.

The breakdown of the vote is as follows:

Parliamentary Party

Approved: 90%

Not approved: 10%

Council of Local Representatives

Approved: 57%

Not approved: 43%
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 26, 2020, 04:25:27 pm
No surprise there,they were always going to vote in favour.its rhe green vote we're interested in
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 26, 2020, 05:18:49 pm
The surprise is 20% of the Sheeple voted No .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 26, 2020, 06:54:54 pm
Paddy Power just stopped betting on another general election this year ?do they know something ?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 26, 2020, 07:27:29 pm
The surprise is 20% of the Sheeple voted No .

Dollyer that 20% is huge remember the TDs and Senators have 50% of the vote they voted yes so that 20% represents 40% of the Free vote .On that basis the Greens should vote NO .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 26, 2020, 07:54:57 pm
I hope so
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 26, 2020, 07:56:51 pm
Im hearing 68% yes for the greens .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 26, 2020, 08:24:28 pm
Thats not enough is it ?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 26, 2020, 08:33:53 pm
Thats not enough is it ?

yes 66.6% required there is a recount .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 26, 2020, 08:41:54 pm
Must be very close if theres a recount
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 26, 2020, 08:57:46 pm
Done deal, we have a government, good news!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 26, 2020, 09:06:16 pm
Greens will implode this government wont pass a budget .Greens were forcasting 68% yes and it turns out to be 74%  Party might split overnight .but your right Roy we do need a government .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Justin Time on June 26, 2020, 09:15:38 pm
This is without a doubt the end of the Greens comes the next election.

They can no longer be classed as a "left" party.

The next Government will be and still be the Government  of the developers and landlords.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Justin Time on June 26, 2020, 09:34:13 pm
Theres talk now that Green Party leader Eamon Ryan will be the new Minister for Transport.

We're fuuked!!!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 26, 2020, 09:34:51 pm
Pity there is no real right wing party in Ireland.we need a good right wing party to put manners on these fukin left wing liberal assholes
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 26, 2020, 09:39:55 pm
I think we're already fucked, Justin... thanks to your and your ilk pointing out how poorly suited to the new normal we are.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Justin Time on June 26, 2020, 09:43:51 pm
I think we're already fucked, Justin... thanks to your and your ilk pointing out how poorly suited to the new normal we are.

Never thought of that  :-\
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Justin Time on June 26, 2020, 09:44:56 pm
Pity there is no real right wing party in Ireland.we need a good right wing party to put manners on these fukin left wing liberal assholes

I explained to you the other day, all about liberalism.

Without it , you wouldnt be doing what you are doing right this minute.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 26, 2020, 09:49:06 pm
Although im a. fan of president Trump,id still find it hars to vote for hiin,because he is to left wing.liberalism is the greatest load of bollox ever up the far right
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 26, 2020, 09:55:34 pm
Showing his true colours now alright, DM. According to social media (linked somewhere on here) blacks are raping Americans at will in Seattle... still, once Trump has cheap labour for the hotels/casinos/golf resorts the Russians and Chinese bailed out I guess he's happy.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Justin Time on June 26, 2020, 09:58:46 pm
Although im a. fan of president Trump,id still find it hars to vote for hiin,because he is to left wing.liberalism is the greatest load of bollox ever up the far right

 ::sleep
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 26, 2020, 10:00:41 pm
Biggest treason in Irish Politics since Dev shot Collins .Dont rule out riots after this sell out .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 26, 2020, 10:06:03 pm
Consider them not ruled out.

I assume Leo will get a standing ovation in recognition of his service, steering us through Brexit and COVID '19. Not bad for the son of an immigrant... maybe a statue would be in order or perhaps Pearse St. could be renamed Varadkar St.?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Pugwat on June 26, 2020, 10:06:23 pm
Riots by who?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 26, 2020, 10:07:22 pm
Green Lives Matter?
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 26, 2020, 10:14:20 pm
Riots by who?

Extinction Rebellion greens sold them out .


Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Pugwat on June 26, 2020, 10:29:29 pm
Riots by who?

Extinction Rebellion greens sold them out .
Ah don't mind dem.
All the FF FG and Greens are happy. All big majoritys.
Shiners can promise the sun moon and stars for the next 4 years
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Shallowhal on June 26, 2020, 10:31:20 pm
Biggest treason in Irish Politics since Dev shot Collins .Dont rule out riots after this sell out .

Riots?....fukin hilare John....i have no doubt you're here all week!!
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 26, 2020, 10:51:30 pm
To be fair, I heard a rumour that a bloke who hires casual labour has been hiring men to man the barricades starting when Mary Lou proposes Leo Varadkar as Taoiseach.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 26, 2020, 10:59:05 pm
To be fair, I heard a rumour that a bloke who hires casual labour has been hiring men to man the barricades starting when Mary Lou proposes Leo Varadkar as Taoiseach.

I wouldnt be surprised if all the Supporting parties TD dont vote for Mick from Cork
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 27, 2020, 06:19:14 am
LOOK OUT EAMO IS NOW IN CHARGE ....Pheno  side gates to remain closed .The car restrictions follow calls by An Taisce and the Green Party for a ban on through traffic in the park.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 27, 2020, 12:27:19 pm
Greens will implode this government wont pass a budget .Greens were forcasting 68% yes and it turns out to be 74%  Party might split overnight .but your right Roy we do need a government .

You're constantly predicting doom and gloom, everything will fail at the next hurdle, then when it doesn't it'll be the hurdle after that, then when it finally does fail you claim great foresight.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 27, 2020, 12:35:01 pm
Greens will implode this government wont pass a budget .Greens were forcasting 68% yes and it turns out to be 74%  Party might split overnight .but your right Roy we do need a government .

You're constantly predicting doom and gloom, everything will fail at the next hurdle, then when it doesn't it'll be the hurdle after that, then when it finally does fail you claim great foresight.

Roy how the fuck can this Government work .The Most successful party leader Ryan who increased his party from 2 seats to 12 is being challenged by his deputy .Martin and Leo lost bucketloads of seats and both are going to be Taoiseach .How the fuck will that work .Wait till the reality of the Budget in October comes home to roost then see how united it is .Oh yea GET A FUCKINH GUN .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 27, 2020, 12:43:04 pm
Greens will implode this government wont pass a budget .Greens were forcasting 68% yes and it turns out to be 74%  Party might split overnight .but your right Roy we do need a government .

You're constantly predicting doom and gloom, everything will fail at the next hurdle, then when it doesn't it'll be the hurdle after that, then when it finally does fail you claim great foresight.

Roy how the fuck can this Government work .The Most successful party leader Ryan who increased his party from 2 seats to 12 is being challenged by his deputy .Martin and Leo lost bucketloads of seats and both are going to be Taoiseach .How the fuck will that work .Wait till the reality of the Budget in October comes home to roost then see how united it is .Oh yea GET A FUCKINH GUN .

The parliamentary party members are on board with the program, they're getting very good at holding these agreements in place for the full term, The Haughey/Reynolds (bring it down at the first opportunity)  types are long gone.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on June 27, 2020, 12:54:15 pm
Wait till the Covid audit is done and questions are asked why hundreds of millions were paid for tests that never happened on hospital beds that were never used and set aside hotels that were never used.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 27, 2020, 01:05:59 pm
Wait till the Covid audit is done and questions are asked why hundreds of millions were paid for tests that never happened on hospital beds that were never used and set aside hotels that were never used.

contingency plans that all parties, even the shinners, agreed with at the time, they're going in with their eyes wide open with regard to Covid costs, money is cheap at the moment and our grandkids will pay (and with the effect of inflation not really notice)
It'll be a nice excuse for increasing taxes all the same though, particularly with doom merchants constantly reminding us
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Justin Time on June 27, 2020, 01:58:37 pm
Greens will implode this government wont pass a budget .Greens were forcasting 68% yes and it turns out to be 74%  Party might split overnight .but your right Roy we do need a government .

You're constantly predicting doom and gloom, everything will fail at the next hurdle, then when it doesn't it'll be the hurdle after that, then when it finally does fail you claim great foresight.



Roy how the fuck can this Government work .The Most successful party leader Ryan who increased his party from 2 seats to 12 is being challenged by his deputy .Martin and Leo lost bucketloads of seats and both are going to be Taoiseach .How the fuck will that work .Wait till the reality of the Budget in October comes home to roost then see how united it is .Oh yea GET A FUCKINH GUN .

How will it work you ask. Look at whats just happened. The 2 civil war partys came together to keep the shinners out.
If Micheal Martin didnt become Taoiseach he would have been the first FF leader not to be Taoiseach.
FFs core belief is that they are "the Government", it is their "right" to be in Government.They will sel their souls to be in power and thats exactly what they have done now.
 
Fianna Failers are a quare bunch (dalymount will love me using that term),once a Fianna Failer always a Fianna Failer.

I use to have a mate who was a FFer, you could not say one bad word about them. He was the typical, arrogant, ignorant, misogynistic man, all the things needed to be one.

FG after the election wanted to be in opposition Leo said it. But when the likelihood was a Sinn Fein Gov,they too, sold their souls to join with FF

As for the Greens, they are biggest turn coats since a former taxi union rep became something else.
There wont be enough room in a phone box for them after the next election.

When it comes down to it, as Kelly (labour leader) said "Power is a drug".

Thats why this will work. 
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Cool Boola on June 27, 2020, 08:21:08 pm
Do you mean to continue to work like it has..I see reality for what it is and Ermy sees the bigger Ponzi scheme too.I dont just spread doom and gloom...Life will go on?...but if my car crashes into a wall...I dont go out and fill it with putty ...I deal with reality......Shit!I have real things to do...
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: dalymount on June 27, 2020, 08:29:51 pm
Ffs got me insurance quote from BJP on Friday.no bonus protection ( which I said I did not want in fairness ) no penalty points,full no claims bonus,and they STILL  came back to me with a quote for almost 2 k .they can shove that,I got a quote from taxifair for 1514 about 2 weeks ago
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on July 30, 2020, 08:47:49 pm
WILL IT LAST ,,,,,,,Dublin Central TD Neasa Hourigan resigned the Green Party whip ahead of her decision to vote against the Government’s legislation on rent freezes and eviction ban for those impacted by Covid-19.

On Thursday in the Dáil, Ms Hourigan backed a Labour Party amendment which would have extended the legislation to all tenants.

The Dublin Central TD has confirmed she took the decision to abdicate her position as her party’s whip before the vote.

She has said she informed her party’s executive council by writing to tell them of her decision.

While Ms Hourigan has said it is not her intention to leave the Green Party, she has said it is now up to the party to decide her fate.

"I have significant concerns as to the impact of this legislation on levels of homelessness across the state. I do not believe it takes into account the scale of the Coronavirus pandemic and the need to keep people safe in their homes. Eviction due to sale is directly in conflict with Green Party policy and so I am unable to support this bill," she said.

Ms Hourigan also voted against the government on multiple amendments to the bill.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40024838.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40024838.html)
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on July 30, 2020, 10:58:37 pm
The house of cards ....THURSDAY, JULY 30, 2020 - 22:15 PM
DANIEL MCCONNELL AND AOIFE MOORE
One of the Government's own junior ministers abstained on a vote on one of its own bills.

The position of two leading Green Party TDs hung in the balance after they failed to back the Government’s position on a bill relating to evictions and rent freezes.

Green Party junior minister Joe O’Brien abstained on the final vote of the Residential Tenancies Bill which was being debated in the Dáil after his party colleague Neasa Hourigan voted against it.

A senior Government source told the Irish Examiner: “It is very hard to see how his position can be justified. It undermines the stability of the whole coalition. While there may be sympathy for Joe personally, you just can’t do that as a minister.”

“The decision of a junior minister of a government to fail to support its own legislation is a very serious situation and normally is a signal of a willingness to resign from office,” said one senior government source.

The Green Party were struggling to contain the fall-out of the situation as a meeting of the parliamentary party took place to discuss the impact of Mr O’Brien and Ms Hourigan’s decision.

In a statement released on social media, Mr O’Brien said: “Re tonight's vote: The issue of homelessness is an extremely important one for me, I’ve worked in the area, I’ve been a whistleblower in the area, I have friends who work in the NGOs and I feel we need to do everything we can to tackle it. I’m elected in part to be a legislator.”

“I wasn’t convinced that this piece of legislation was the best we could have done in what are, to be fair, unusual circumstances. This was mainly due to its extremely rushed nature. I had read enough and heard enough to make it clear to me that it could have been stronger in terms of preventing and reducing homelessness. The issue here was not dedicating sufficient time to a piece of legislation that could have profound consequences on people's lives,” he said.

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“I knew my vote was not going to defeat the bill but I felt I also had to give a signal that how it was done was not good enough,” he said.

The Irish Examiner has confirmed that the three party leaders – Eamon Ryan, Taoiseach Micheál Martin and Tánaiste Leo Varadkar – spoke about Mr O’Brien’s abstention and it is understood they agreed to allow this remain an internal Green Party matter.

The sense was that it would be unfair to seek his head for what was termed a first offence.

Earlier: Neasa Hourigan resigns as Green Party whip before voting against Govt

By Daniel McConnell, Political Editor

Dublin Central TD Neasa Hourigan resigned the Green Party whip ahead of her decision to vote against the Government’s legislation on rent freezes and eviction ban for those impacted by Covid-19.

On Thursday in the Dáil, Ms Hourigan backed a Labour Party amendment which would have extended the legislation to all tenants.

The Dublin Central TD has confirmed she took the decision to abdicate her position as her party’s whip before the vote.

She has said she informed her party’s executive council by writing to tell them of her decision.


While Ms Hourigan has said it is not her intention to leave the Green Party, she has said it is now up to the party to decide her fate.

"I have significant concerns as to the impact of this legislation on levels of homelessness across the state. I do not believe it takes into account the scale of the Coronavirus pandemic and the need to keep people safe in their homes. Eviction due to sale is directly in conflict with Green Party policy and so I am unable to support this bill," she said.

Ms Hourigan also voted against the government on multiple amendments to the bill.

Meanwhile, Junior minister and Dublin Fingal TD Joe O’Brien abstained in the final vote on his own government’s Bill.

The fate of Ms Hourigan and Mr O'Brien were the topic of discussion at a parliamentary party meeting of the Greens on Thursday night.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: TheDevilHimself on July 31, 2020, 03:20:25 am
Blah
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on July 31, 2020, 06:55:17 am
AH  the lunatics have taken control .Watch Mick and Leo letting on it dosent matter Two government TDs dont support the government and fuck all happens but if you had a gargle a few years ago you get shafted .Democracy you got to love it .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: watty on July 31, 2020, 09:30:21 am
Storm in a teacup.  The Dail (3 working days/week) is on their "Summer" hols from now until Halloween.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Pugwat on July 31, 2020, 10:35:10 am
The green party punished them by banning them from speaking in the Dáil for 8 weeks. It's closing down for 6 weeks so no worries there.
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2020, 10:35:15 am
Never mind that shit .... yuv worse tings to be worried bout

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0731/1156594-eid-croke-park/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0731/1156594-eid-croke-park/)
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on July 31, 2020, 10:39:22 am
Storm in a teacup.  The Dail (3 working days/week) is on their "Summer" hols from now until Halloween.

Wait till September when they try pass a budget .Think Dollymount is onto something .You own a second gaff you bought for your pension sinking all you savings into the deposit and some yoke getting Covid Coin and the HAP dosent pay the rent you cant evict them .and today the Banks announced they are no longer paying interest and will actually charge you to hold your money that they will lend for profit .So you got 100k lump sum from your pension that you paid over your working life and the banks wont pay you interest on it .Think Big Dommo was right hasent worked since he finished his Anco early school leavers course in 1978.The Greens ,SF,Labour couldnt vote to extend this as it wasent extended for long enough .



Charlie Weston 

July 31 2020 02:30 AM

Bank of Ireland is to impose negative interest rates on cash held in pensions, in a move that will hit people saving for their retirement hard.

The move represents the first time negative rates will have been charged to consumers.

Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on July 31, 2020, 10:45:15 am
Never mind that shit .... yuv worse tings to be worried bout

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0731/1156594-eid-croke-park/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0731/1156594-eid-croke-park/)

Where is the problem with 200 people celebrating their faith .Sure our government spent millions bringing over a Cabaret Pope not the real one but his doppleganger to celebrate buggering kids burying other kids in sesspools in Galway selling kids like livestock .Good to see the GAA are moving with the times .Happy Eid to all our Muslim friends and Colleagues .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on July 31, 2020, 10:51:02 am
NOW WATCH THE GREENS ....The Supreme Court has quashed the 2017 National Mitigation Plan on the basis that it does not provide enough detail about how the State will reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The case against the State was brought by Friends of the Irish Environment.

So they had a sort of deal but now they have nothing  with Friends like that the environment is fucked .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2020, 12:52:18 pm
Never mind that shit .... yuv worse tings to be worried bout

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0731/1156594-eid-croke-park/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0731/1156594-eid-croke-park/)

Where is the problem with 200 people celebrating their faith .Sure our government spent millions bringing over a Cabaret Pope not the real one but his doppleganger to celebrate buggering kids burying other kids in sesspools in Galway selling kids like livestock .Good to see the GAA are moving with the times .Happy Eid to all our Muslim friends and Colleagues .

Anything that flies in the face( or 737s into buildings) of a
Fossil of a t-rex  is a dangerous political  idealology hell bent on control of community , a culture and a country ...  you try going to saudi Arabia an asking can you organise a nativity play in a  city's stadium wer they behead people for not believing in Allen every sunday with popcorn an toffee apples for the kids . .....
That's wat wrong with it ....
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: john m on July 31, 2020, 12:57:06 pm
Sure we play American Football there as well and look how them cunts treat their population .Death penalty ,ethnic cleansing ,Democracy denies ,Christian fundamentalism Science deniers God Bless the USA .
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2020, 03:39:14 pm
Sure we play American Football there as well and look how them cunts treat their population .Death penalty ,ethnic cleansing ,Democracy denies ,Christian fundamentalism Science deniers God Bless the USA .

Ah now johnny ...in america ya can join any religion ya want ........you go into a bar....em ...a cafe in Riyadh and publically declare you want to be catholic theyll chop yur head off .....now that's fuked up.....if yur mot has it off with the milkman she gets concrete blocks trown at her head  until
she doesn't have a head  whilst the kiddies get candy floss an a little flag  an if your neighbour says they saw ya on a broomstick wit a cat you get cut up into little pieces ....an if you take it up the chuff  with yur fellits  then its  Yur head off  .....
I dont particularly want to go back  to the dark ages an barbarism but I can tell ya that that's wat they want to do here with ther collective mental illness
An fuked up so called religion....wer only gettin rid of the mafia an we give the keys to  croker to these Neanderthals .....
Fucking madness
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Bob Shillin on July 31, 2020, 05:31:42 pm
Sure we play American Football there as well and look how them cunts treat their population .Death penalty ,ethnic cleansing ,Democracy denies ,Christian fundamentalism Science deniers God Bless the USA .

Ah now johnny ...in america ya can join any religion ya want ........you go into a bar....em ...a cafe in Riyadh and publically declare you want to be catholic theyll chop yur head off .....now that's fuked up.....if yur mot has it off with the milkman she gets concrete blocks trown at her head  until
she doesn't have a head  whilst the kiddies get candy floss an a little flag  an if your neighbour says they saw ya on a broomstick wit a cat you get cut up into little pieces ....an if you take it up the chuff  with yur fellits  then its  Yur head off  .....
I dont particularly want to go back  to the dark ages an barbarism but I can tell ya that that's wat they want to do here with ther collective mental illness
An fuked up so called religion....wer only gettin rid of the mafia an we give the keys to  croker to these Neanderthals .....
Fucking madness

There is hope for enlightenment, see below, meantime it is important, politically, to adopt a reasonable attitude to the moderate islamists who hold that peace is at the core of their beliefs.
https://en.qantara.de/content/atheism-in-the-arab-world-moroccos-atheists-find-a-home-on-the-internet
https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/4898/the-rise-of-arab-atheism
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: silverbullet on August 02, 2020, 07:41:03 pm
Sure we play American Football there as well and look how them cunts treat their population .Death penalty ,ethnic cleansing ,Democracy denies ,Christian fundamentalism Science deniers God Bless the USA .


Ah now johnny ...in america ya can join any religion ya want ........you go into a bar....em ...a cafe in Riyadh and publically declare you want to be catholic theyll chop yur head off .....now that's fuked up.....if yur mot has it off with the milkman she gets concrete blocks trown at her head  until
she doesn't have a head  whilst the kiddies get candy floss an a little flag  an if your neighbour says they saw ya on a broomstick wit a cat you get cut up into little pieces ....an if you take it up the chuff  with yur fellits  then its  Yur head off  .....
I dont particularly want to go back  to the dark ages an barbarism but I can tell ya that that's wat they want to do here with ther collective mental illness
An fuked up so called religion....wer only gettin rid of the mafia an we give the keys to  croker to these Neanderthals .....
Fucking madness


There is hope for enlightenment, see below, meantime it is important, politically, to adopt a reasonable attitude to the moderate islamists who hold that peace is at the core of their beliefs.
[url]https://en.qantara.de/content/atheism-in-the-arab-world-moroccos-atheists-find-a-home-on-the-internet[/url] ([url]https://en.qantara.de/content/atheism-in-the-arab-world-moroccos-atheists-find-a-home-on-the-internet[/url])
[url]https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/4898/the-rise-of-arab-atheism[/url] ([url]https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/4898/the-rise-of-arab-atheism[/url])

Thought you'd like these Bob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g12vq_J762A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g12vq_J762A)
Title: Re: our new green government
Post by: Bob Shillin on August 03, 2020, 12:21:45 pm
Yes, excellent, will read them bit by bit. Hard to avoid life's curve balls though. "Be like water". Bruce Lee.