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Title: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Justin Time on June 24, 2020, 09:27:24 pm
So its been announced that masks are now compulsory on Public Transport.

So presumably we can refuse anyone that doesnt wear a mask into our motors.

Mind you in the article it mentions "public transport" (buses,trains,Luas) no mention of taxis. See told ya, we are only "public transport" when we owe them money.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/masks-to-be-made-compulsory-on-public-transport-1.4287678 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/masks-to-be-made-compulsory-on-public-transport-1.4287678)
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Cool Boola on June 24, 2020, 09:47:51 pm
Dick turpin....was before his time!
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 24, 2020, 10:07:15 pm
If we weren't included ...
It would make us the only option for those unable or unwilling to wear masks for whatever reason
Just saying ...
Depends if you feel the screen sanitiser and your own mask is sufficient?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: stonethecrows on June 24, 2020, 10:25:38 pm
"would make the wearing of masks on all public transport compulsory."

"other public transport operators would be allowed operate at 50 per cent capacity." 

Sounds like we are included in the mask fiasco and the 50% rule !!
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Shallowhal on June 24, 2020, 10:33:51 pm
I've been operating at 50% capacity for years now!!
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: silverbullet on June 25, 2020, 12:22:54 am
I've been operating at 50% capacity for years now!!
Rules state "You cannot reasonably refuse a fare under 30KMs" Fear of catching or spreading a life-threatening illness seems reasonable to me.
If/when I go back I'll insist, stating that I installed a screen and wore a mask and it's only fair and reasonable for a punter to play their part by wearing a face covering.

Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Octavia1 on June 25, 2020, 12:29:56 am
Dick turpin....was before his time!
rofl
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Horse on June 25, 2020, 12:52:35 am
At least they won't be able to eat their shite in our cars now, its my pet hate. I'm not looking forward to going back though faced with the scenario that I can't see any of their faces. All well and good during the day but at 4am I'm not sure. If I felt iffy about nights before it'll be totally scarey now. Every punter is a potential  junkie or drunk or thief. Gone will be the days of going with your gut when you refuse fares, cant even see their poxy face now.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: TheDevilHimself on June 25, 2020, 01:05:49 am
At least they won't be able to eat their shite in our cars now, its my pet hate. I'm not looking forward to going back though faced with the scenario that I can't see any of their faces. All well and good during the day but at 4am I'm not sure. If I felt iffy about nights before it'll be totally scarey now. Every punter is a potential  junkie or drunk or thief. Gone will be the days of going with your gut when you refuse fares, cant even see their poxy face now.
Great stuff !  so then you can also reasonably refuse to allow into  your jammer  any brainwashed  idiot wearing a muzzle ..also on safety grounds .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Horse on June 25, 2020, 01:11:55 am
Yea but if they have to wear a mask we'll be refusing every fare. Doesn't seem like much point going out to work at all if that's the case.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: TheDevilHimself on June 25, 2020, 01:18:33 am
Yes they might be made to believe that they have to but it may eventually come down to people using their own brains and deciding for themselves wether or not to wear the  muzzle  and then Drivers deciding for themselves wether or not to take them .
 I really would hope so, but  from what I've seen lately I wont be  holding  my breath.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 25, 2020, 07:28:02 am
Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Justin Time on June 25, 2020, 11:37:07 am
Yes they might be made to believe that they have to but it may eventually come down to people using their own brains and deciding for themselves wether or not to wear the  muzzle  and then Drivers deciding for themselves wether or not to take them .
 I really would hope so, but  from what I've seen lately I wont be  holding  my breath.

Unless people are wearing a mask they wont be getting into my car, end of.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 25, 2020, 11:38:34 am
Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

Yes we will (be included) , and we are SPSV's, and that isn't a definition of Public service vehicles

Public service vehicle means any motor vehicle used or adapted to be used for the carriage of passengers for hire or reward
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 25, 2020, 11:39:13 am
Back Mid March I picked up an app job and he was a young bloke with a mask on.Four months later the rest of the country is catching up.I remember thinking he was mad at the time.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 25, 2020, 02:59:29 pm
Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

Yes we will (be included) , and we are SPSV's, and that isn't a definition of Public service vehicles

Public service vehicle means any motor vehicle used or adapted to be used for the carriage of passengers for hire or reward

No it dosent
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 25, 2020, 03:13:59 pm
In Ireland Public service obligation .As in we are obliged to provide the service as taxi drivers we have no such obligation to provide any service unlike the 54a bus which must run full or empty ...In essence, Public Service  obligation was designed to help  fund the cost of services that the market, left to itself, would not provide..TAXIS ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .NEVER WERE NEVER WILL BE .But dont let that stop the stupit pricks looking for them to be made PUBLIC SERVICE and then any town or village or area or street without a taxi can demand one and who knows the minister might even lift the Moritorium or even approve rideshare .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 25, 2020, 03:17:04 pm
Ye we are, the clue is in the name ....small public service vehicle
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 25, 2020, 03:32:37 pm
Ye we are, the clue is in the name ....small public service vehicle

Your confusing two different things The vehicle is a TAXI the licence to operate it is a SPSV driving licence .Would you say a Limo or a herse is a Public Service Vehicle ?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: maxi on June 25, 2020, 04:04:09 pm
So its been announced that masks are now compulsory on Public Transport.

So presumably we can refuse anyone that doesnt wear a mask into our motors.

Mind you in the article it mentions "public transport" (buses,trains,Luas) no mention of taxis. See told ya, we are only "public transport" when we owe them money.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/masks-to-be-made-compulsory-on-public-transport-1.4287678 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/masks-to-be-made-compulsory-on-public-transport-1.4287678)
Looking out on PLANDEMIC now, lack of sense and MEDICAL FACISM, as that was published by Lick Arse Times political deputy this is a last move of SHANE ROSS in his cabinet. Leo took a lot of money from "WHO" who actually took away your freedom and sovereignty. Someone else said to me today .."You have to ask WHY they didnt just get people to wear masks at the start and not put people out of work and in debt. Few masks for a couple of weeks and they would't have to shutdown and lock down the nation. 
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: stonethecrows on June 25, 2020, 05:52:48 pm
Back Mid March I picked up an app job and he was a young bloke with a mask on.Four months later the rest of the country is catching up.I remember thinking he was mad at the time.
I had a guy in me car last October wearing a mask.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: dalymount on June 25, 2020, 06:14:25 pm
President Trump calls it the kung flu
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 25, 2020, 06:55:33 pm
Ye we are, the clue is in the name ....small public service vehicle

Your confusing two different things The vehicle is a TAXI the licence to operate it is a SPSV driving licence .Would you say a Limo or a herse is a Public Service Vehicle ?

Yes they are, and its a small public service vehicle ........not driver
although I assume the corpse will be exempt
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: dalymount on June 25, 2020, 07:00:33 pm
Lift the moratorium ? What fukin moratorium ?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: silverbullet on June 25, 2020, 07:48:30 pm
Yes they might be made to believe that they have to but it may eventually come down to people using their own brains and deciding for themselves wether or not to wear the  muzzle  and then Drivers deciding for themselves wether or not to take them .
 I really would hope so, but  from what I've seen lately I wont be  holding  my breath.

Unless people are wearing a mask they wont be getting into my car, end of.
+1
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: mgb1979 on June 26, 2020, 09:35:54 pm
What's the betting  ???

Buses, Luas etc... it will be the No-Mask Passenger who will be fined (not the driver).

Taxis... the Driver will be responsible for ensuring that all Passengers wear masks.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 26, 2020, 09:38:16 pm
Is there anything to be said for some stickers advising passengers that they cannot travel without a mask?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Justin Time on June 26, 2020, 09:41:37 pm
Is there anything to be said for some stickers advising passengers that they cannot travel without a mask?

People seldom read anything when they are in the car. The best way to get the message across, will be to tell them, no mask, no taxi!
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 26, 2020, 09:42:27 pm
Maybe door and roof sign stickers?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: dalymount on June 26, 2020, 09:46:21 pm
Is there anything to be said for saying another mass ?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on June 26, 2020, 10:45:40 pm
It's all a loada bollocks.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 26, 2020, 11:00:03 pm
HAVE THEY BEEN MADE COMPULSORY and what is the legal definition of mask ?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Shallowhal on June 27, 2020, 12:15:53 am
HAVE THEY BEEN MADE COMPULSORY and what is the legal definition of mask ?

Ask the NTA.....i think they have to have a CE mark on them to pass suitability....and if it has an expiry date stamp..make sure it's in date and satisfy yourself of the material that's it's made from is kosher!!
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Cool Boola on June 27, 2020, 09:06:27 am
Every address in the country should have had a free delivery of quality masks by now and a list of suitable low cost suppliers,but no...!!!..Crap masks and crazy prices circulating in this free ...rip off ...Country...No argument that wearing a mask in public is beneficial to eliminating the spread of this virus,,,,Improved low cost testing is being hindered by the Government decision to pay 200 euro a test to their approved testing( Laboratories).....A Laboratory professor on Prime Time RTE1 ...last week complained that a lab test for Corona virus... cost 15 euro but the Government cowboys decided to offer a list of testing labs 200euro a test without any haggeling on price...the price is holding back on ordinary people wanting to be tested.....No lessons learned here and so no hope of a brighter future in this culture!!!!Micke Mouse for Taoiseach....

Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 27, 2020, 10:14:07 am
Coola ...Look at what has happened in the USA after they opened up .Some research says over 20 Million and not 2 Million Americans have contracted some version of this virus .I remember posting that Leo a Medical doctor said on the day he took our keys off of us .That there were TWO things Coronavirus and Covid 19 I still believe this to be true one is a flue like virus that gives you chills and Fever and the other is the manifestation of catching Covid if you have certain other underlying ailments .

I was talking to a Doctor Friend during the week who suggested that the increase of Deaths in Nursing homes could possibly be due to the Fact that a lot of medicines dispensed in Nursing homes are not branded but Generic as most of them are paid for by the HSE and they would want to save coin .Generic medicines might not be as Powerfull as the Branded options just like Coca Cola or Tescos own Cola are differently the same .

Face masks are Political Window dressing an optical disillusion that things are great .If the Virus is Dying why do we need masks If its safe to relax opening then why did they extend the Covid Coin .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 27, 2020, 12:18:19 pm
The Corona virus isn't gone and won't go away, it's something as a society we have to learn to live with, a lot has been learned in this regard an countries are starting to return to some semblance of normality, believe me if certain aspects of society (essential services) had not been kept open and those working in them had not risked their lives (many lost) you'd have been on here crying over no cornflakes.

It's now time for the rest of us to restart our society and do what ever we can individually to do so without spreading the virus.

Of course properly worn masks help
Of course physical barriers help
Of course side by side, back to back front to back contacts are better than face to face
Of course hand washing and sanitising works

It's time to get off your arse and return society to normality using common sense

Maybe and quite probably the virus will spike again, but we cannot continue to sponge off the state indefinitely
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 27, 2020, 12:38:21 pm
SPONGE OFF THE STATE .The state offered workers a deal you stay at home wash your hands observe social distancing and we will give you some coin .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 27, 2020, 12:42:07 pm
Whether you take the COVID money or decide to work you're still going to be paying in your tax bill for the next 10/20 years.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 27, 2020, 12:45:04 pm
SPONGE OFF THE STATE .The state offered workers a deal you stay at home wash your hands observe social distancing and we will give you some coin .

Provided you had no work to go to, you conveniently keep forgetting that bit.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Cool Boola on June 27, 2020, 08:11:16 pm
The Corona virus isn't gone and won't go away, it's something as a society we have to learn to live with, a lot has been learned in this regard an countries are starting to return to some semblance of normality, believe me if certain aspects of society (essential services) had not been kept open and those working in them had not risked their lives (many lost) you'd have been on here crying over no cornflakes.

It's now time for the rest of us to restart our society and do what ever we can individually to do so without spreading the virus.

Of course properly worn masks help
Of course physical barriers help
Of course side by side, back to back front to back contacts are better than face to face
Of course hand washing and sanitising works

It's time to get off your arse and return society to normality using common sense

Maybe and quite probably the virus will spike again, but we cannot continue to sponge off the state indefinitely
.....

GREAT.....you have a history of not paying much attention to any posts pre yours....I dont debate with walls....or closed minds.. but accept we all have the right to controlled opinion ...so I will skip this one ...in case I might waste time for me.... ,
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Phsychidelic on June 28, 2020, 01:42:21 am
Why should i wear a mask when I don't rob people and the
keshites won't. At least Dick Turpin etc.....
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Belker on June 28, 2020, 06:52:12 am
Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

Yes we will (be included) , and we are SPSV's, and that isn't a definition of Public service vehicles

Public service vehicle means any motor vehicle used or adapted to be used for the carriage of passengers for hire or reward
Tough Call !

I would side with Roy on the regulations side but John M has decent points.
I really don't know, but I will put the betting up (with the usual sample odds rules).

Taxies drivers and Customers to have mandatory face masks by NTA or Gov.ie;
John M (NO); 4/7.
Roy (Theoneandonly) (YES); 6/4
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 28, 2020, 06:55:30 am
SPONGE OFF THE STATE .The state offered workers a deal you stay at home wash your hands observe social distancing and we will give you some coin .

Provided you had no work to go to, you conveniently keep forgetting that bit.

That was never a condition .The condition was your business was impacted by the virus .If you could not social distance .Plus where can a working driver wash his hands .Thats the Instruction not douse your mitts with alcoholic liquid .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Belker on June 28, 2020, 07:03:14 am
.....Unless people are wearing a mask they wont be getting into my car, end of.
Maybe best to stay home on the Covid 350 so JT,
about 1% of my night time passengers wear masks.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 28, 2020, 07:26:11 am
.....Unless people are wearing a mask they wont be getting into my car, end of.
Maybe best to stay home on the Covid 350 so JT,
about 1% of my night time passengers wear masks.

I guess it will be an issue with those wearing make up and worried about their complexion and stuff?
Personally not too concerned whether people wear them in the Taxi or not, though I'd prefer they did.
It'll be less policed in Taxis and we will probably be a grey area in this regard, sure we don't know ourselves whether we're included or not, how do we expect pax to know?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 28, 2020, 07:29:02 am
The Corona virus isn't gone and won't go away, it's something as a society we have to learn to live with, a lot has been learned in this regard an countries are starting to return to some semblance of normality, believe me if certain aspects of society (essential services) had not been kept open and those working in them had not risked their lives (many lost) you'd have been on here crying over no cornflakes.

It's now time for the rest of us to restart our society and do what ever we can individually to do so without spreading the virus.

Of course properly worn masks help
Of course physical barriers help
Of course side by side, back to back front to back contacts are better than face to face
Of course hand washing and sanitising works

It's time to get off your arse and return society to normality using common sense

Maybe and quite probably the virus will spike again, but we cannot continue to sponge off the state indefinitely
.....

GREAT.....you have a history of not paying much attention to any posts pre yours....I dont debate with walls....or closed minds.. but accept we all have the right to controlled opinion ...so I will skip this one ...in case I might waste time for me.... ,

If there was less drivel , a few more commas and maybe a paragraph or two, i'd be more inclined to read through.
But you're right, I skip most  of the threads, doesn't everybody?
Like, who has the fucking time?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 28, 2020, 07:40:44 am
Just heard a Floridian woman say she doesn't wear a mask for the same reason she doesn't wear underwear, things gotta breathe!
Best argument against masks I've heard so far!
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 28, 2020, 08:58:42 am
Did anybody watch the Posse of Power heading into Dublin Castle to get their seals of office the Posh busses pulled up and the Power People all filed off the bus in a nice civil order .Ah FUCH I said to Big Dommos sister who called over with some Fairy cakes she just baked I was going to say Ah FUCK but she dosent like cursing .Whats wrong she asked LOOK I said The Possie of Power the men and women that are going to save us are getting off a Bus and only Dr Leo Veradkar TD was wearing a Facemask .COMPULSORY ME FLUTE .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: dalymount on June 28, 2020, 09:16:30 am
Is there any clarity on wether we have to wear masks or not ? And do out customers ( if any ) also have to wear them
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: dalymount on June 28, 2020, 09:18:01 am
Paul Simon eat your heart out ,the erm is writing songs now
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 28, 2020, 09:22:49 am
Is there any clarity on wether we have to wear masks or not ? And do out customers ( if any ) also have to wear them


 Its simple but complicated by its simplicity .Is a taxi a Public Service Vehicle I say NO its a vehicle that the public may use which is a totally different thing .You own your own business you decide like any other business how you want to run it .I see signs on some taxies saying no food on board or WiFi on board or CCTV on board .Its your business some passengers will not take a cab with a driver without a Screen ,Some passengers wont take a cab with a driver without a mask .You decide how you want to operate the passengers will decide who they want to use .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: dalymount on June 28, 2020, 09:32:22 am
Well im glad I asked,thanks for clearing that up
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: U Wha on June 28, 2020, 05:41:04 pm
Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 28, 2020, 05:44:43 pm
Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.

NO and No a hearse driver or a mourning car driver hold SPSV licences are they Public Service Vehicles .Taxies ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public can use .PUBLIC SERVICE TRANSPORT is transport subsidized by the state as the open market would not provide it as in last bus from town to Blessington with one passenger .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: U Wha on June 28, 2020, 05:47:30 pm
Is there any clarity on wether we have to wear masks or not ? And do out customers ( if any ) also have to wear them


 Its simple but complicated by its simplicity .Is a taxi a Public Service Vehicle I say NO its a vehicle that the public may use which is a totally different thing .You own your own business you decide like any other business how you want to run it .I see signs on some taxies saying no food on board or WiFi on board or CCTV on board .Its your business some passengers will not take a cab with a driver without a Screen ,Some passengers wont take a cab with a driver without a mask .You decide how you want to operate the passengers will decide who they want to use .

Large Public Service vehicles (Buses and Coaches) are just big versions with seating capacity for over 9 people. The distinction is some operators (Dublin Bus, Bus Eireann, Go AHead. Aircoach etc) have Route Licences that allow them to stop at predetermined stops along the route and pick up passengers that haven't booked a private hire service. So the buses operating along these routes are akin to taxis, in that they can be hailed on the street. Where private bus operators are similar to hackneys and limousines who need to prebooked with an agreed fare. So all buses, coaches, taxis, limousines and hackneys are 'Public Service Vehicles' that have different rules of operation depending on their licence type.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: U Wha on June 28, 2020, 05:51:27 pm
Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.

NO and No a hearse driver or a mourning car driver hold SPSV licences are they Public Service Vehicles .Taxies ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public can use .PUBLIC SERVICE TRANSPORT is transport subsidized by the state as the open market would not provide it as in last bus from town to Blessington with one passenger .

Incorrect, the hearse themselves (coffin carrier) are not spsv, the drivers may have spsv licences as they may switch driving between the accompanying limousines are as they charging mourners (the passengers) for the privilege (Hire or Reward). Refer to my last reply above regarding how buses operate.

Edit: As per images attached from RSA a hearse does not require a spsv licence but does require to be registered as SPV (Special Purpose Vehicle) that has been equipped to carry deceased remains.

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Guidance_for_Limousine_Vehicle_Choice__PDF.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Guidance_for_Limousine_Vehicle_Choice__PDF.pdf)
https://www.rsa.ie/Documents/VS_Information_Notes/Special_Purpose_Vehicles/FAQs%20on%20Hearses.pdf (https://www.rsa.ie/Documents/VS_Information_Notes/Special_Purpose_Vehicles/FAQs%20on%20Hearses.pdf)
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 28, 2020, 05:57:14 pm
Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.

NO and No a hearse driver or a mourning car driver hold SPSV licences are they Public Service Vehicles .Taxies ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public can use .PUBLIC SERVICE TRANSPORT is transport subsidized by the state as the open market would not provide it as in last bus from town to Blessington with one passenger .

Are you really saying that the drivers are vehicles in order to prove a point? that's simply ridiculous, it's the vehicles that are vehicles and the drivers have licences allowing them to drive such vehicles.

Public service transport has nothing to do with a Subsidy, iThey are vehicles that are licensed to carry passengers for hire or reward, and yes Limos/Hacks and  as well as Taxis are included as small public service vehicles (the drivers are people) (not sure what a hearse is classed as TBH)

Some Public Transport is subsidised in order to provide a service where it wouldn't be feasible otherwise, but that is not what defines it, nor is it always necessary.

Just because it suits the narrative in your head doesn't make it so.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 28, 2020, 05:59:27 pm
Ok then Write to Eamo and ask him .Im sure he will telly you ....Exactly what I told you .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: U Wha on June 28, 2020, 06:06:35 pm
posted in error
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: U Wha on June 28, 2020, 06:13:29 pm
Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.

NO and No a hearse driver or a mourning car driver hold SPSV licences are they Public Service Vehicles .Taxies ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public can use .PUBLIC SERVICE TRANSPORT is transport subsidized by the state as the open market would not provide it as in last bus from town to Blessington with one passenger .

Are you really saying that the drivers are vehicles in order to prove a point? that's simply ridiculous, it's the vehicles that are vehicles and the drivers have licences allowing them to drive such vehicles.

Public service transport has nothing to do with a Subsidy, iThey are vehicles that are licensed to carry passengers for hire or reward, and yes Limos/Hacks and  as well as Taxis are included as small public service vehicles (the drivers are people) (not sure what a hearse is classed as TBH)

Some Public Transport is subsidised in order to provide a service where it wouldn't be feasible otherwise, but that is not what defines it, nor is it always necessary.

Just because it suits the narrative in your head doesn't make it so.

+1

Technically there is no such thing as a taxi or hackney driver. Small Public Service Vehicle drivers have a licence to operate any licenced small public service vehicle. The vehicle licence determines the conditions of operation.

"(not sure what a hearse is classed as TBH)"  See my last reply to John M
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 28, 2020, 06:16:35 pm
Ok then Write to Eamo and ask him .Im sure he will telly you ....Exactly what I told you .

Not that bothered, but I'm sure he wouldn't say that small public service vehicles aren't small public service vehicles, or say that it's the drivers who are the small public service vehicles, actually I'd take offence at that , who's he calling small!??

They're not Buses and they're not Trains but Taxis are small public service vehicles, I have a piece of paper that says so
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 28, 2020, 06:17:27 pm
Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.

NO and No a hearse driver or a mourning car driver hold SPSV licences are they Public Service Vehicles .Taxies ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public can use .PUBLIC SERVICE TRANSPORT is transport subsidized by the state as the open market would not provide it as in last bus from town to Blessington with one passenger .

Are you really saying that the drivers are vehicles in order to prove a point? that's simply ridiculous, it's the vehicles that are vehicles and the drivers have licences allowing them to drive such vehicles.

Public service transport has nothing to do with a Subsidy, iThey are vehicles that are licensed to carry passengers for hire or reward, and yes Limos/Hacks and  as well as Taxis are included as small public service vehicles (the drivers are people) (not sure what a hearse is classed as TBH)

Some Public Transport is subsidised in order to provide a service where it wouldn't be feasible otherwise, but that is not what defines it, nor is it always necessary.

Just because it suits the narrative in your head doesn't make it so.

+1

Technically there is no such thing as a taxi or hackney driver. Small Public Service Vehicle drivers have a licence to operate any licenced small public service vehicle. The vehicle licence determines the conditions of operation.

"(not sure what a hearse is classed as TBH)"  See my last reply to John M

Thanks for the clarification re hearses
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Bob Shillin on June 28, 2020, 06:20:17 pm
No bother wearing a mask if it becomes law, a much more suitable option for me than fitting a screen. Also might mean less clients requesting a screen car, which would also suit me.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: U Wha on June 28, 2020, 06:28:29 pm
Ok then Write to Eamo and ask him .Im sure he will telly you ....Exactly what I told you .

Eamo would tell him what the Natinal Transport Authority would tell him.

That subsidies are there to offset "some" of the costs on routes that may not always be viable but have a public need.

The fact there is a susbsidy has no relevance on the meaning of public service vehicles other than it is a condition of a licence on some routes.

The Government when issuing Route Licences to operators include a condition called a Public Service Obligation.

Traditionally these routes were operated by the semi state transport companies but now more and more routes are being operated by private operators who can apply for the subsidies.

The NTA awarded a lot of these routes to Go Ahead because they can operate at a lower cost than the unionised semi-state monoliths.

Most routes are viable and attract no subsidies and have no impact on the rest of the other public service vehicles licences.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Horse on June 28, 2020, 06:28:47 pm
I'd prefer if they made screens compulsory and not masks. They should pay for it too. I would not feel comfortable picking anyone off the street unless I could see their mush. I'd rather one or two in the back with no masks and a screen than 3 or 4 with masks. Id be paro to fcuk. Not for hygiene purposes but for physical injury possibilities.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 28, 2020, 08:00:52 pm
For Sherlock and Watson who recon we are Public service but cant find any evidence to prove it .Next Clue I have a First Aid kit and a Fire extinguisher does that make me a Doctor or a Fireman .Elementary lads Elementary .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: U Wha on June 29, 2020, 01:26:40 am
For Sherlock and Watson who recon we are Public service but cant find any evidence to prove it .Next Clue I have a First Aid kit and a Fire extinguisher does that make me a Doctor or a Fireman .Elementary lads Elementary .

Please refer to my previous replies that contain links and screenshots that support my statements. Also maybe look at your paper driver licence and vehicle licences that make clear references to 'public service'.

I am not trying to be argumentative but simply correcting easy to make misinterpretations. There are subsidies for public transport but they don't define what public service vehicles are, they are simply a condition of a particular licence.

I generally get the point in most of your posts, but I am a little disappointed that you can't admit it when you have misinterpreted something. You are quick to correct others, thwre is no harm in being humble enough to see the error and to learn something new.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 29, 2020, 02:52:52 am
Ill ask again because I know the Answer .Did you write to the minister and get him to agree with you .Taxi cabs ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public may hire .Give Eamo a tickle and see what he says .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Belker on June 29, 2020, 05:31:00 am
Ill ask again because I know the Answer .Did you write to the minister and get him to agree with you .Taxi cabs ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public may hire .Give Eamo a tickle and see what he says .
Me thinks, Your losing this argument John M.

Of course Taxies are Public service vehicles, FFS we all hold PSV licences !!
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 29, 2020, 08:21:08 am
For Sherlock and Watson who recon we are Public service but cant find any evidence to prove it .Next Clue I have a First Aid kit and a Fire extinguisher does that make me a Doctor or a Fireman .Elementary lads Elementary .

What more fucking evidence do you need than an official document with small public service vehicle written on it you muppet!
You're the one spouting rubbish about subsidies with no proof
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 29, 2020, 08:22:31 am
6 jobs this morning ... zero masks
Those of you not accepting customers who are not wearing masks will go hungry
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 29, 2020, 08:31:55 am
For Sherlock and Watson who recon we are Public service but cant find any evidence to prove it .Next Clue I have a First Aid kit and a Fire extinguisher does that make me a Doctor or a Fireman .Elementary lads Elementary .


What more fucking evidence do you need than an official document with small public service vehicle written on it you muppet!
You're the one spouting rubbish about subsidies with no proof


Sligo County council website:https://www.sligococo.ie/Services/MotorTaxation/MotorTaxationGuidelines/PublicServiceVehicles/#:~:text=Public%20Service%20Vehicles-,Public%20Service%20Vehicles,are%20separated%20into%20two%20categories%3A&text=Small%20Public%20Service%20Vehicle%20%2D%20SPSV,%2D%20Taxi's%2C%20Hackney's%20and%20Limousines)

Public Service Vehicles
Public Service Vehicles are vehicles that carry passengers for a fee.  These vehicles qualify for a reduced rate in tax. PSV's are separated into two categories:

Large Public Service Vehicle - LPSV (Vehicle capable of carrying more that eight passengers - Buses)
Small Public Service Vehicle - SPSV (Vehicles capable of carrying eight passengers or less only - Taxi's, Hackney's and Limousines)
In order to use a vehicle as a PSV there are two types of licence required:

The driver must hold a PSV Drivers Licence - 'the driver's badge'
The vehicle must be registered as a PSV and hold a PSV Vehicle Licence

S.I. No. 191/1963 - Road Traffic (Public Service Vehicles) Regulations, 1963. includes Buses Taxis limos and Hacks

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1963/si/191/made/en/print (http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1963/si/191/made/en/print)

where's your proof we aren't .... crap talk about subsidies certainly isn't ?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: dalymount on June 29, 2020, 08:49:50 am
All these city council rules,and regulations means fukkall.I remember quoting to the emforcement officers a page from the Dublin street vehicles book.as far as I remember it was page 5 paragraph 2 I could be wrong on that,but it was very explicit in explaining that it was illegal to stand,or ply for hire ANYWHERE other then an officially appointed taxi rank,or stand.the purpose of my quote to them,was to point out that a certain Dublin cab company were breaching this rule by having their drivers illegally camped in the car parks of certain hotels.the fact that it is STILL happening today proves the point that both the rules,and enforcement officers are not worth a bollox when it comes to this kind of enforcement.,and this despite the fact that the chief enforcement officer actually agreed with me
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 29, 2020, 09:36:13 am
Give Eamo a bell and ask him if we a Public Service vehicles
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 29, 2020, 09:40:25 am
6 jobs this morning ... zero masks
Those of you not accepting customers who are not wearing masks will go hungry

But we are Public Transport according to you .So are you ignoring the rules ?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 29, 2020, 09:50:27 am
The chief executive of the National Transport Authority has said that fines are likely to be imposed on people who do not wear face coverings on public transport.

Anne Graham told Newstalk Breakfast that passengers this week will be “encouraged” to wear face-covering, but that from next week the NTA will be enforcing the new regulation which makes the wearing of face-covering mandatory on public transport.


Have the NTA issued any regulation to taxi drivers about how many passengers we can carry like they did on other PUBLIC SERVICE vehicles like trains ,Luas and Busses or are we NOT public service vehicles .

Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Cool Boola on June 29, 2020, 10:02:25 am
Ifin I hear anythin oil let ya know   !
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 29, 2020, 10:12:50 am
Ill tell you why taxies are NOT Public service vehicles and what they are .Most on here got licences post Dereg .The Judge in his ruling refused to issue second licences to existing licence holders as he said what was to stop them sticking that extra licence in their back pocket and not using them .That would not solve the issue of lack of taxies .He also said a taxi licence is not a licence to work there is no obligation on a taxi licence holder to operate that taxi .That simply means that a taxi is a discretionary service provided by the taxi licence holder and used by the public .We as an industry have no Service obligation attached to our vehicles .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Cool Boola on June 29, 2020, 10:22:58 am
I know what you mean....but if they can and do make rules about taxis then surley they will visit this issue?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 29, 2020, 10:30:48 am
I know what you mean....but if they can and do make rules about taxis then surley they will visit this issue?

They wont make rules for taxies they might issue an advisory .If we were deemed to be PUBLIC SERVICE  then the public could demand an app proper taxi shelters in any area they deemed necessary .and we could ask for public service provision subsidies .Like every other PUBLIC SERVICE provider gets .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: watty on June 29, 2020, 11:10:18 am
HOLD THE PRESSES!  The NTA finally made a decision about taxis in less than a month!

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/face-coverings-to-become-compulsory/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/face-coverings-to-become-compulsory/)

Quote
Face coverings to become compulsory
29/06/20

Face coverings will shortly be compulsory on all SPSV services.

Wearing a face covering is already strongly recommended. Now it is to become mandatory.

As public health authorities have advised, face coverings can help prevent someone who may not even know they are infected from making other people sick, and the use of face coverings will help protect both passengers and drivers alike.

A detailed regulation on this is being prepared by government departments and NTA is involved with that process.  That regulation will look at issues like enforcement and exemptions.

We will keep you updated.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 29, 2020, 11:22:16 am
I dont see the word TAXI in that press release   do you .
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: watty on June 29, 2020, 11:28:02 am
Found it here... https://www.nationaltransport.ie/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/)taxi/publications-and-regulations/latest-news-and-industry-updates/


Then... https://www.nationaltransport.ie/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/)taxi-and-bus-licensing/face-coverings-to-become-compulsory/
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: stonethecrows on June 29, 2020, 11:41:51 am
29/06/20

"Face coverings will shortly be compulsory on all SPSV services."

Check the Date and the word "Shortly", sounds like it aint defo yet !
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 29, 2020, 12:50:21 pm
6 jobs this morning ... zero masks
Those of you not accepting customers who are not wearing masks will go hungry

But we are Public Transport according to you .So are you ignoring the rules ?

It's advisory for this week, fines will be introduced next week ... €500 notes I believe, the Media need to include us when mentioning this, like you, they think we're not included
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Bob Shillin on June 29, 2020, 01:55:14 pm
As the bus drivers asked, are we, as drivers supposed to enforce mask wearing by passengers, i.e. if we have a passenger on board, and are stopped by the cops, will the cops be talking to us, or the passenger?
When I was parked up in Jobstown while the pax were waiting for a drug deal to be done, an unmarked police car came by, and questioned the passengers, not me.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: U Wha on June 29, 2020, 02:20:18 pm
I dont see the word TAXI in that press release   do you .
But it does state SPSV.
Taxis are one of the licences that are described as SPSVs. Can you not just admit it when you are wrong?

Regarding your comment about taxis not having a public service obligation. That is true because they are not expected to operate on an non viable route. Still has nothing to do with with the fact that SPSVs and LPSVs are 'Public Service Vehicles'.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on June 29, 2020, 02:24:11 pm
As the bus drivers asked, are we, as drivers supposed to enforce mask wearing by passengers, i.e. if we have a passenger on board, and are stopped by the cops, will the cops be talking to us, or the passenger?
When I was parked up in Jobstown while the pax were waiting for a drug deal to be done, an unmarked police car came by, and questioned the passengers, not me.

I hope we won't be enforcing it, and don't really want be turning away work because of it, I guess worst case scenario I'll have to dole out my own masks to them
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: john m on June 29, 2020, 03:03:53 pm
As the bus drivers asked, are we, as drivers supposed to enforce mask wearing by passengers, i.e. if we have a passenger on board, and are stopped by the cops, will the cops be talking to us, or the passenger?
When I was parked up in Jobstown while the pax were waiting for a drug deal to be done, an unmarked police car came by, and questioned the passengers, not me.

I hope we won't be enforcing it, and don't really want be turning away work because of it, I guess worst case scenario I'll have to dole out my own masks to them

Be ideal then if we are not Public Transport ?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Cool Boola on June 29, 2020, 05:02:25 pm
I would be concerned about bodies thinking that because they have a mask on..they might feel a bit of Ned Kelly coming on...
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: stonethecrows on June 29, 2020, 05:07:44 pm
Why should the driver be responsible, I think he can only remind Pax about masks (IF they have to wear them in Taxis),
bit like Seat belts, if they don't adhere then its Gard's problem
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 29, 2020, 05:12:09 pm
Less than 5% wearing masks in Tesco today.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: silverbullet on June 29, 2020, 11:06:43 pm
It's like sex education.  You can give all the advice in the world but some fuckwits still manage to get someone pregnant.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Belker on June 30, 2020, 09:11:17 am
6 jobs this morning ... zero masks
Those of you not accepting customers who are not wearing masks will go hungry

But we are Public Transport according to you .So are you ignoring the rules ?
What Rules ?
The NTA as usual are a Day late and a Dollar short on giving us any guidelines !
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Justin Time on June 30, 2020, 11:51:13 am
All these city council rules,and regulations means fukkall.I remember quoting to the emforcement officers a page from the Dublin street vehicles book.as far as I remember it was page 5 paragraph 2 I could be wrong on that,but it was very explicit in explaining that it was illegal to stand,or ply for hire ANYWHERE other then an officially appointed taxi rank,or stand.the purpose of my quote to them,was to point out that a certain Dublin cab company were breaching this rule by having their drivers illegally camped in the car parks of certain hotels.the fact that it is STILL happening today proves the point that both the rules,and enforcement officers are not worth a bollox when it comes to this kind of enforcement.,and this despite the fact that the chief enforcement officer actually agreed with me

But those taxis are on private property.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: dalymount on June 30, 2020, 04:17:01 pm
This has been debated ,the erm made the same point,but it was established by both the NTA,and DCC regardless of wether or not it was private property,the rules governing the industry,are very clear,the only place a taxi may stand,or ply for hire is at an officially appointed taxi rank or stand.these are not my rules,these are the rules as stated,and apperently they supercede any rules a taxi driver might try to adopt
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: silverbullet on July 01, 2020, 02:43:14 pm
Quote One : You can't get Covid 19 by not wearing a mask.

Quote  Two: You can't get pregnant by not wearing a condom.

A bit Irish eh?
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Belker on July 01, 2020, 05:21:25 pm
The betting; (with the usual sample odds rules).

Taxies drivers and Taxi Customers to have mandatory face masks by NTA or Gov.ie;
John M (NO); 4/7. 4/5.
Roy (Theoneandonly) (YES); 6/4. Evens.
Revised prices in light of the new NTA 'Wishy Washy' guidelines.
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/face-coverings-to-become-compulsory/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/face-coverings-to-become-compulsory/)
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 01, 2020, 06:51:11 pm
The betting; (with the usual sample odds rules).

Taxies drivers and Taxi Customers to have mandatory face masks by NTA or Gov.ie;
John M (NO); 4/7. 4/5.
Roy (Theoneandonly) (YES); 6/4. Evens.
Revised prices in light of the new NTA 'Wishy Washy' guidelines.
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/face-coverings-to-become-compulsory/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/face-coverings-to-become-compulsory/)

You're some bookie, the NTA issue a statement saying masks are to be made compulsory and you improve the odd for those betting that they will be made compulsory
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Belker on July 01, 2020, 07:12:26 pm
The betting; (with the usual sample odds rules).

Taxies drivers and Taxi Customers to have mandatory face masks by NTA or Gov.ie;
John M (NO); 4/7. 4/5.
Roy (Theoneandonly) (YES); 6/4. Evens.
Revised prices in light of the new NTA 'Wishy Washy' guidelines.
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/face-coverings-to-become-compulsory/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/face-coverings-to-become-compulsory/)

You're some bookie, the NTA issue a statement saying masks are to be made compulsory and you improve the odd for those betting that they will be made compulsory
Read it again Roy, I cut the odds on mandatory face masks.
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 01, 2020, 07:22:34 pm
The betting; (with the usual sample odds rules).

Taxies drivers and Taxi Customers to have mandatory face masks by NTA or Gov.ie;
John M (NO); 4/7. 4/5.
Roy (Theoneandonly) (YES); 6/4. Evens.
Revised prices in light of the new NTA 'Wishy Washy' guidelines.
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/face-coverings-to-become-compulsory/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/face-coverings-to-become-compulsory/)

You're some bookie, the NTA issue a statement saying masks are to be made compulsory and you improve the odd for those betting that they will be made compulsory
Read it again Roy, I cut the odds on mandatory face masks.

sorry my bad
Title: Re: Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport
Post by: Belker on July 02, 2020, 03:36:44 pm
Anybody hearing anything on the grapevine about Taxi masks or screens ?