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Title: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 05, 2021, 06:06:21 pm
15 k FINE TO BOOT !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 05, 2021, 06:50:21 pm
Not Bad will miss summer racing .Will Tony Martin take the Licence ?
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: silverbullet on March 05, 2021, 07:10:05 pm
Not Bad will miss summer racing .Will Tony Martin take the Licence ?
He'll be out in three months!
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: markmiwurdz on March 05, 2021, 07:14:41 pm
It's losing the horses to other yards is the real penalty.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 05, 2021, 07:21:28 pm
Patrick Mullins turned down a Pro Licence .Will Frankie or Holly Doyle ride in the Bumper?Powers wouldnt give me odds .
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 05, 2021, 07:52:00 pm
Maybe Tony but he suffers from all the stress--Joanna Morgan is close by (she's not slow) or maybe Frank Berry he used to have a License, anyway I hope he survives --seldom backed any of his horses but he comes across as a hard grafter and I admire that in any profession !
But the amount of two faced fuckers who appeared in last week is astounding--Davy Russell was a real cute whore--Ruby Walsh ,who rode plenty of winners for him --did a Brutus impression--Mick Fitzgerald not any better ,quing you to get quoted  !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 05, 2021, 07:58:25 pm
He has to move out of his Gaff cannot enter the yard for Six months ,not sure if he can enter a racecourse either .Wouldnt be surprised if he quits Ireland and goes training flat horses for the Arabs .His ban wouldnt apply in Dubai or the Emirates .
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 05, 2021, 08:53:01 pm
Is he suspended or warned off ?
Former would mean he could continue to work ,with warned off --not allowed in any reg racing establishment !
Reckon he will head Stateside --couldn't see him in a teetotaler regime --he will return and a few will have targets on their back --interesting what happens the female  ---one thing for sure Mammy will be very unhappy --wonder what  RUK will have to say  !
Remember what Sky did to Kay Burley and Co for their party before Christmas !
Some rag is sure to run a background story and she is fucked !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: markmiwurdz on March 06, 2021, 09:39:39 am
Gordon has said that he won't go to a racecourse for 6 months anyhow to avoid any "situations".

I personally think he'll bounce back to somewhere near where he was as a lot of people are coming around to the fact that it was just a moment of madness and he is a very good trainer other than that.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: markmiwurdz on March 06, 2021, 10:05:00 am

https://www.theirishfield.ie/news-denise-foster-tipped-to-replace-elliott-607124/?fbclid=IwAR1jlvohTm5luUSWzHYa3PW_BbU2iycTnX3-4apfDyxm4jCYynLw9ni4FQk (https://www.theirishfield.ie/news-denise-foster-tipped-to-replace-elliott-607124/?fbclid=IwAR1jlvohTm5luUSWzHYa3PW_BbU2iycTnX3-4apfDyxm4jCYynLw9ni4FQk)



The highly respected trainer is expected to take over the licence at Cullentra House Stables while Gordon Elliott serves his ban

DENISE ‘Sneezy’ Foster is expected to step in as licensed trainer at Cullentra House Stables while Gordon Elliott is suspended.

A statement confirming her appointment is expected after the weekend but The Irish Field understands that Foster has been informing her owners of the news, and a British Horseracing Authority source also revealed that Foster had made enquiries about having runners at Cheltenham.

Based in Enfield, Co Meath, Foster is held in high regard by her professional colleagues. She trains approximately 20 horses and her most recent winner was Swiss Swoo at Dundalk last month. She saddled Lily’s Rainbow to win a listed race at Navan in 2016 and Not For Burning gave her a winner at the Fairyhouse Winter Festival.

A former riding instructor, she worked with show jumpers in Ireland and Belgium earlier in life. She was married to leading eventer David Foster, who competed in three Olympics before suffering a fatal accident while competing in 1998.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 06, 2021, 12:12:07 pm
Dubai is one of the Emirates, erm. I don't think they'd welcome riff-raff like Elliott into their horsey set. Might be different If he has a lot of money - in their language, not yours - to invest and wants to reinvent himself as a boxing or soccer promoter.

UAE teetotal regulations don't extend to westerners, punter. There's plenty of (Irish) bars in both Dubai and Abu Dhabi, for example.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: silverbullet on March 06, 2021, 03:49:44 pm
Dubai is one of the Emirates, erm. I don't think they'd welcome riff-raff like Elliott into their horsey set. Might be different If he has a lot of money - in their language, not yours - to invest and wants to reinvent himself as a boxing or soccer promoter.

UAE teetotal regulations don't extend to westerners, punter. There's plenty of (Irish) bars in both Dubai and Abu Dhabi, for example.
He's a caveman. Dubai wouldn't let him on their soil, if they had any.

Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 06, 2021, 06:41:39 pm
I guess he's bought a degree of respectability in employing Denise... making a mockery of the so-called regulatory system into the bargain. If he's supposed to be banned his yard should be closed down.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Shallowhal on March 06, 2021, 07:39:23 pm
Think of the jobs lost RC....i'm sure it got a mention in the proceedings,ermy probably has the complete transcript!!
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: silverbullet on March 06, 2021, 07:54:30 pm
Think of the jobs lost RC....i'm sure it got a mention in the proceedings,ermy probably has the complete transcript!!
From the horse's typewriter.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 06, 2021, 08:56:52 pm
He was rep"d at the hearing by O Leary's briefs (fair play for his loyalty in my mind ) I think 10 witnesses reported ,hearing took less than 2.5 hours --it looks like a prepacked solution --he said "he will not attend race  or PP meetings "--bit odd for defendant !
I don't think he is warned off  I reckon he will still be there on a day to day basis, hence O Leary and Co will stay --imagine there will be heavy security around the place for next 6 mths--no one in ,with staff surrendering phones on entry --new trainer will take all the kudos and will be PR briefed on a regular basis !
It will be interesting who the rest of the witnesses were--there was a Doc ,the new Trainer ,I assume some of the people who inspected the yard over the years ,a Vet ,maybe O Leary--still leaves a few -- little doubt the result was a prepared solution put together which gave the powers that be a simple efficient exit to the shit !
Social Media has screwed his life time of work but he may well recover as he appears to have plenty of support --the silly woman who released the pic will find it a lot more difficult --personally I feel sorry for all concerned !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 06, 2021, 09:13:09 pm
Davy Russell and Kennedy didnt show any loyalty .Kennedy only concerned he kept the ride on Envoy Allen .I would think Gordon will have a Day of the Long Knives after he returns .He wont rock the bote while he is away but dont think the two boys will be getting the leg up in future .
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: markmiwurdz on March 07, 2021, 01:19:15 pm
Another theory emerges on the photo leak.
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Was the sickening photo that ruined the career of a Grand National winning trainer leaked over a feud with a gangster?


The mystery surrounding a sickening photograph of three-time Grand National-winning trainer Gordon Elliott sat astride a dead horse deepened last night amid claims that a drug cartel leaked the image in a bid to ruin him.

The horse-racing star’s fall from grace took a dramatic turn on Friday night when a judge noted a ‘sinister aspect’ to the case as he handed the trainer a year’s ban from the sport, suspended for the final six months.

‘The Committee are satisfied that the publication of this photograph is part of a concerted attack upon Mr Elliott, the full circumstances of which are unknown,’ said Mr Justice Raymond Groarke, of the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (IHRB).

The mystery surrounding a sickening photograph of three-time Grand National-winning trainer Gordon Elliott sat astride a dead horse deepened last night amid claims that a drug cartel leaked the image in a bid to ruin him

Today, The Mail on Sunday can reveal mounting suspicion that the ‘concerted attack’ was orchestrated by a criminal gang seeking to ruin Elliott over a long-running feud.

Sources allege the cartel released the image of Elliott sat on the body of seven-year-old gelding Morgan while chatting on his mobile phone in revenge for his refusal to work with John Boylan, a notorious criminal.

Boylan has 67 convictions and has been described by Ireland’s Criminal Assets Bureau as ‘a leading and directing member of an organised crime group based in the West Dublin area specifically involved in armed robbery and the sale and supply of controlled drugs’.

He was also the owner of Labaik, a racehorse stabled at Elliott’s yard in County Meath after being bought for £25,000. Boylan had a 90 per cent share in the animal and Elliott five per cent.

In its first three races, the horse refused to start but it then dramatically won the 2017 Supreme Novices Hurdle race at Cheltenham with Boylan photographed celebrating the victory and €147,447 (£127,000) winner’s cheque in the parade ring.

Coverage of Labaik’s unexpected win and Boylan’s celebrations drew the attention of the police who suspected the racehorse had been bought with money made from crime. Shortly afterwards, detectives swooped to seize Boylan’s financial documents, computers, a £30,000 Mercedes Benz E Class and a small quantity of drugs. 

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/textbased/news/text-9334497/Was-sickening-photo-Grand-National-winning-trainer-leaked-feud-gangster.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/textbased/news/text-9334497/Was-sickening-photo-Grand-National-winning-trainer-leaked-feud-gangster.html)
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 07, 2021, 01:45:02 pm
I posted on here that there seemed to be a huge amount of very expensive National Hunt horses in training .I saw one 400K running in a bumper and a Maiden Hurdle at Nass with 5 horses that cost over quarter of a Million .Were gangs laundering money through horses .You put a horse in  an auction then somebody buy it  for 400K you pay 5% auction fee now the 400k you got for selling the horse is clean money .

 Probably explains why Joseph O Brien refused to take any of Elliotts Horses .Im sure Elliott knows who actually took the photo .
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Shallowhal on March 07, 2021, 02:36:30 pm
Just like the taxi game John,horse racing has been given a fairly free ride(pun intended) up till now,Gilligan should have put his equestrian centre in somebody else name...but he put that target on his own back.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 07, 2021, 02:52:16 pm
If the authorities have learned one lesson from this debacle, it has to be what happens with broadening the gene pool. Hopefully, they'll think twice before licensing more outsiders.

If memory serves, Noel Furlong was refused a training licence and had to hire some blue blood to cross the eyes and make the teas... why was that?
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 07, 2021, 02:56:02 pm
The Mirror went with the (woman) scorned theory, MMW... interestingly with a link to an unrelated feature on Kate Harrington. Surely an OCG would just put a bullet in the cunt?
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 07, 2021, 03:06:38 pm
Amazing how nothing made of the number of nags left in sales establishments when led out unsold--it was a regular event a few years ago after the 3rd day of the sales event when the dross was offered --if they didn't warrant an offer --sales number whipped off and left abandoned in boxes--this from the "we love our horses "brigade !  Remember a few were found in a ramshackle barn and identified by their microchip still in ownership of the breeder  !
Too expensive to feed and the knackers stopped paying for them so dumped !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 07, 2021, 03:12:21 pm
What do you want them to do... put pictures on anti-social media? There are organisations that do what they can with the surplus... my sister has fostered the odd one or two over the years, those that are "rescued" generally end up in riding schools or such like.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: silverbullet on March 07, 2021, 04:12:56 pm
https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5dfc6aa74653d042431b0d11 (https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5dfc6aa74653d042431b0d11)
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 07, 2021, 04:22:56 pm
Reckon criminals have enough on their plate staying alive , without  chasing guys about training their nags !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 07, 2021, 05:35:02 pm
Dunno about that, Punter. Did you ever see the Panorama programmes (I think there was two) investigating horse racing. If memory serves, it was the first time sports promoter Daniel Kinahan attracted the attention of mainstream media on the mainland. He was picked up at a London airport by a race fixer, checked into a hotel and driven to Kieran Fallon's then Newmarket home where it's thought Fallon was to be executed. However, the British police had covert surveillance on them and, believing Fallon's life to be in immediate danger, the officers decided to blow their cover which resulted in the alleged hit being abandoned.

I'd say very little happens in racing without the Kinahan's approval.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 07, 2021, 05:38:20 pm
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/syndicate-sought-to-confront-fallon-1.971118 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/syndicate-sought-to-confront-fallon-1.971118)

Syndicate 'sought to confront Fallon'

Wed, Oct 10, 2007, 01:00
Bernard Purcell

BRITAIN:A former Dublin furniture shop owner, Daniel Kinahan, travelled from Spain to Newmarket to confront jockey Kieren Fallon in his own home "in the very early hours" days after his "bet to lose" syndicate lost £160,256 (€231,300) because he won his race.

It was one of several races the syndicate expected Fallon to throw but which he went on to win, the Old Bailey heard.

The horse, Russian Rhythm, was from the stables of Queen Elizabeth's favourite trainer Sir Michael Stoute, and ran in the 2.40pm Juddmonte Lockinge Stakes at Newbury on May 15th, 2004.

The jury heard one of the alleged organisers of the so-called "bet to lose" conspiracy, Yorkshire businessmen Miles Rodgers, refer to the Spain-based Irish businessman Daniel Kinahan in intercepted phone calls as a formidable character called "D".

Mr Rodgers was heard on the intercept telling a person, whose account he has been using to lay bets to lose on online bookmakers Betfair, that while he had met many "menacing" people in the course of his business, they paled beside "D".

He said he was "only a little fella, but you know when you've been spoken to".

It was this person who was losing patience with Kieren Fallon winning races which the syndicate had been led to believe he would lose, Mr Rodgers said.

Prosecutor Jonathan Caplan QC told the jury of seven women and five men that the fact that Mr Fallon won races his co-conspirators expected him to lose merely showed he was being cautious as he clearly suspected he was under investigation.

Even in those races which he appeared to lose legitimately, evidence of contacts between Mr Fallon and his co-accused suggested that he had been prepared to stop a horse winning had it been necessary, said Mr Caplan.

Spanish-based Mr Kinahan, who is not named in the indictment, was described as a former Dublin furniture shop owner and one-time employer of Philip Sherkle - the man chosen as a go-between with Mr Fallon, replacing co-accused Shaun Lynch - after Mr Fallon was deemed to have won one race too many, and cost them too much.

The jury also heard Mr Rodgers discuss Mr Fallon's alleged losses to the syndicate with Mr Sherkle: "your friend asked how much he is in debt to the other guy [in Spain]. It is about four and a half ".

Mr Fallon's wins when he was expected to lose - and the perceived trouble in which he consequently found himself with the Spanish end of the conspiracy - prompted Mr Rodgers to say: "I just think he's thick, you know."

The jury heard Mr Rodgers say of Mr Fallon, in further intercepted conversation, that while the jockey should know more about horse racing than they would ever know, that "he's not dealing with a full stack".

The court heard how on May 26th, 2004, Daniel Kinahan arrived by air at Leeds/Bradford airport to be met by Mr Sherkle where they went to Harrogate and on to the Bedford Lodge hotel in Newmarket where they checked in under false names.

At 1am Mr Kinahan, Mr Sherkle, Miles Rodgers and Shaun Lynch drove out to confront Kieren Fallon at his family home, only to turn back when they noticed they were under surveillance. They checked out of the hotel at 2am.

Mr Caplan told the jury this behaviour was "mysterious and suspicious".

The court also heard how an easyJet return flight to Spain for August 4th, 2004, was purchased by jockey Fergal Lynch using his Visa Delta card.

Mr Fallon was a "no show" for the flight - Mr Rodgers, Lynch and two others did fly out - although a ticket confirmation for his flight was subsequently found by police in the glove compartment of Mr Fallon's car.

The jury was also given details of a series of texts between Kieren Fallon and Philip Sherkle on two specially-purchased "pay as you go" mobile phones recovered from both men during the investigation.

The texts came after the syndicate lost £105,078 betting on Fallon to lose on Daring Aim at Newmarket on July 23rd, 2004. The horse, trained by Sir Michael Stoute, was owned by Queen Elizabeth.

Mr Sherkle texted Fallon: "If u don't speak to me now I won't be able to help you". Fallon replied: "They will take my licences off me if they drift like that last night. They are watching me."
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 07, 2021, 06:09:32 pm
Yes, saw both but I think things have changed a bit --gangsters may have made millions in meantime but they got to the stage where greed got to them --each wanting more so they knocked each other off while law watched on ,so now they have to mind themselves 110% of time --to maintain status quo!
I remember going to a point to point in Punchstown long time ago and a mate who was a small time Joe met a LEADING amateur at the time --said he needed a deuce--told my mate to lay his mount to get him it --he jumped off at the second !
Fallon no different--an amazing talent rode every one on Tabors strokes before he joined Magnier and Co--but the hookey dollar always attractive--the all weather stop proved that !
Mate of mine ran a mobile repair company in Romania 10 years ago --100 staff --said the talent in IT those guys had but if there was a bent dollar to be had they would ditch the job to do it--its just a human flaw--the easy buck !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 07, 2021, 10:10:01 pm
I knew a man had a horse ran in a point to point trainer said it was a certainty .Monster bet on it and it ran like a dirty drain .Fella learned that the trainer asked a bookie to lay it and split if he sent the punter to him .Two days later the trainers House and barn were burned to the ground .Think it might of been a COINCIDENCE .
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 08, 2021, 08:11:19 am
I was right in my thinking ,according to todays IT --Elliot is allowed to live and work at the stables---so we will see soon enough if he will look for retribution for lack of support--imagine Giggenstown will decide what goes on !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 08, 2021, 08:21:59 am
I was right in my thinking ,according to todays IT --Elliot is allowed to live and work at the stables---so we will see soon enough if he will look for retribution for lack of support--imagine Giggenstown will decide what goes on !


Kennedy didnt show any sort of Support neither did Davy .Jockey bookings will say a lot .Those Two Jockeys both owe a huge debt to Elliott after Mick O Leary gave both their P45 .I wonder if Elliott had not of insisted on using Russell would he of ever won a National .Like I said in another post dont think Mullins trusts Townsend so any chance Townsend goes to Elliotts next year ?Dont think there is much truth in the Jonny Boylan Story .Elliott knows who took that Photo dont think Johnny would be allowed into the yard .
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 08, 2021, 08:39:46 am
Could understand Kennedy staying stum as his opinion wouldn't carry much weight but Russell was too much of a cute whore --he wasn't so mouthy when he hit the nag a box a few years ago --
Don't know about Townsend, might prefer Mark Walsh, he seems capable while being trusted by JP--
Saw reports that JP was in close contact with the stable all week from Bahamas base--
It was a well constructed pre-packed solution to a nasty situation --now all can move on --except for the bird no sign /mention of her on RUK over w/e !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 08, 2021, 09:09:02 am
I think people are beginning to see this whole thing might of been stage managed a bit ,did somebody suggest to Elliott to pose for the pic.He runs a fairly liberal shop unlike Jim Bolger .Did hear some talk of since lockdown that they had a social club on site and Drink and Powder was the order of the day for ALL .I know jockies are tested but what about stable staff who ride out every day .Think Walsh has an agreement with JP just not traveling to the UK for rides during Covid .Walsh and Baby Jonjoe will be retained by JP .Kennedy gave an interview expressing thanks that he retained the Envoi Allen job never said a word about being sorry for the Girl who looked after him or anybody else .Think this story has legs a lot of people must be looking over their shoulders .I was told mid week a Local Meath based trainer was taking over both Mead and Martins names were mentioned so only half the info was right .I never heard of the Woman taking over but hope she gets a decent earner out of it .She cant attend Cheltenham as she has not been accredited a pass and its to late now to apply .What comes around goes around Harry lost all the Potts horses a few years back now he gets good horses .Puppy Power returned from the UK is he being lined up for the Mullins Job or could he go to Elliots .I could be miles wrong about mullins and Townsend but Willy wasent very complimentary over christmas even though Townsend done nothing wrong .
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 08, 2021, 09:44:07 am
YOU CAN TALK NOW DAVEY YOU KNOW THE OUTCOME



 MON, 08 MAR, 2021 - 09:28
COLM O’CONNOR
Top jockey Davy Russell admits his appearance on RTÉ’s Prime Time last week was ‘probably a mistake in hindsight.’ Russell spoke on the programme in defence of his friend Gordon Elliott after an image of the trainer sitting atop a dead horse was released on social media.

Russell - who rode the Elliott trained Tiger Roll to back to back Grand National wins - said he just ‘couldn’t get the words out’ during his interview with Miriam O'Callaghan.

Russell admitted: “If you didn’t see it, I appeared on Prime Time on RTÉ last Tuesday night which was probably a mistake in hindsight.

“I wasn’t going on there to stand up for the photo, I just wanted to stand up for the man. “There had been so much vitriol and hate flying around on social media that I felt I needed to clarify a few things. The reality was that my head was shot to pieces and I wasn’t in a good place having witnessed heartbreaking scenes in the yard only hours earlier.

“I don’t think I’ve ever been more nervous in all my life and I just couldn’t get the words out.

“It will be hard for many of you to empathise, but I was hurting for a friend,” the wrote in a blog for starsports.bet.

Russell also vowed that he will ‘be there’ for Elliott who is now serving a six month ban for bringing the sport into disrepute.

And he also challenged those who are basing their opinions on the trainer on one photograph.

Russell said: “I am better placed than most to tell you a little bit more about Gordon Elliott the man. He is not the animal-hating demon-like figure that so many are sadly painting him out to be. In fact, he is the exact opposite. Horses are his life. He loves them more than any human. He has also been hugely loyal to me in recent years and been there for me throughout the good times and bad times. I have so much to be grateful to him for and I’m proud to be able to call him a friend.

“So much of the success I have had in the saddle is down to Gordon. I have him to thank for a lot of the happiness and stability in my personal life too. He has promised to vindicate the faith all his close supporters have in him and I will be there for him on that long road ahead.

“If you have never visited Cullentra you won’t be aware of the true love and care shown to every horse in the yard – it’s actually been described as a five-star hotel for horses. The attention to detail, care and support is off the charts. Regular racegoers will be aware of how immaculately every horse from the yard is turned out at the races. That’s a fact that mustn’t be lost in all of this.”

The Cork jockey also described the 'heartbreaking' scenes when a number of the stable’s top stars were removed last week by owners: “You must understand that despite the ban handed out by the IHRB on Friday, nothing will compare to the punishment the yard received that day. I cannot get the image of the tears out of my mind as Envoi Allen, a horse of a lifetime, made his way out the yard. It was heartbreaking to watch and there were some members of staff that literally had to be picked up off the floor. To watch so many people’s hard work and dreams start to unravel in the space of hours is one of the toughest things I have ever had to witness.”

Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 08, 2021, 02:32:51 pm
I suppose Denise is acting as character referee for Elliott. I hope she doesn't come to regret that, regardless of how much he paid her.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 08, 2021, 03:40:58 pm
She will betting 10% of everything won along with a good wedge--has to be worth 150k plus -- !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 08, 2021, 04:03:11 pm
I'd say a lot of the blue blood will think she's sold her soul... although she has good pedigree, no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 08, 2021, 08:14:07 pm
I see from RP that both Noel Meade and Henrietta Knight both offered evidence/assistance at the enquiry !
Hen would be one of the well respected faces of the turf in Brittan and not associated with any of the major owners who also stood up for him --she definitely stuck her neck out !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 08, 2021, 10:14:40 pm
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST .

THE partner of disgraced racehorse trainer Gordon Elliott allegedly had a furious row with one of his riders.

TV presenter Kate Harrington had a slanging match in front of shocked onlookers with British blonde Charlotte Crozier at a makeshift bar on the site of Elliott's stables near Dublin in Ireland.

Crozier is said to have shocked onlookers when she allegedly rowed with Harrington at Elliott's yard

Harrington is alleged to have had a 'verbal altercation' with Crozier


Elliott has since been banned from racing for 12 months, with the final six months suspended


Elliott, 43, hosted the party where the row erupted and in an unrelated incident a horrific photo of him sat on a dead horse was leaked.

The three-time Grand National-winning trainer has apologised 'profoundly' for the image, which was taken in 2019.

The Sun can reveal a row erupted between Kate, 31, and Charlotte, who is in her 20s.

The argument is believed to have taken place on February 21.

The two had a 'verbal altercation' in which drinks were apparently spilled.

A source said: "It was a row, a verbal altercation.

"People were stunned to hear it. It's been the talk of the racing world ever since.

"Everybody is talking about it. It's a big deal.






"Gordon's facing so many problems. This row erupted and then the leaked photo."

On Wednesday, Charlotte changed her Facebook profile picture to her and a horse with the caption: "Team GE. #ImBackingGordon."

Elliott has since been banned for 12 months, with the final six months suspended.

The trainer has passed the licence at his yard over to Denise 'Sneeze' Foster, although Elliott was forced to delete a line in the statement announcing the move following a fan backlash.

When approached by The Sun and the altercation was put to her, Charlotte said: "That's not true."



https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/horseracing/14260205/gordon-elliott-kate-harrington-row/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunsportfacebook070321&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1615115626 (https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/horseracing/14260205/gordon-elliott-kate-harrington-row/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunsportfacebook070321&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1615115626)

Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: silverbullet on March 08, 2021, 10:23:34 pm
A crozier is a hooky staff... 8)
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: silverbullet on March 08, 2021, 10:27:09 pm
A crozier is a hooky staff... 8)
Y'would, Y'would, Y'would:
https://futuretechtrends.co.uk/2021/03/07/gordon-elliotts-partner-kate-harrington-had-row-with-young-female-rider-one-week-before-dead-horse-photo-was-leaked/
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 08, 2021, 10:35:05 pm
What would good looking women ever see in a fat Millionaire like Elliott .
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: silverbullet on March 08, 2021, 10:53:35 pm
What would good looking women ever see in a fat Millionaire like Elliott .
Exactly.
Ever see the photo of Flavio  Briatore from F1 fame?



(https://i.postimg.cc/mcFFdZVK/2021-03-08-22-56-34.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mcFFdZVK)
 8)
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 09, 2021, 06:16:12 pm
'An absence of respect' and 'appalling bad taste': The IHRB's full statement on the Gordon Elliott case

https://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/an-absence-of-respect-and-appalling-bad-taste-the-ihrbs-full-statement-on-the-gordon-elliott-case-40174802.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/an-absence-of-respect-and-appalling-bad-taste-the-ihrbs-full-statement-on-the-gordon-elliott-case-40174802.html)

What did they expect when they licensed him? I hope Denise doesn't come to regret putting her reputation on the line...
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: silverbullet on March 09, 2021, 08:31:05 pm
'An absence of respect' and 'appalling bad taste': The IHRB's full statement on the Gordon Elliott case

https://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/an-absence-of-respect-and-appalling-bad-taste-the-ihrbs-full-statement-on-the-gordon-elliott-case-40174802.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/an-absence-of-respect-and-appalling-bad-taste-the-ihrbs-full-statement-on-the-gordon-elliott-case-40174802.html)

What did they expect when they licensed him? I hope Denise doesn't come to regret putting her reputation on the line...
A decent Barrister would drive a coach and six through their judgement! 8)
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Shallowhal on March 09, 2021, 10:26:07 pm
He was probably aware of what he was gonna get handed and 6 months and a 15k fine was palatable instead of a more  expensive and long drawn out process that would have kept him out for longer!!
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 10, 2021, 05:33:25 pm
Gordon Elliott’s girlfriend Kate Harrington stands by shamed trainer and denies Valentine’s Day bust-up rumours

https://theusposts.com/gordon-elliotts-girlfriend-kate-harrington-stands-by-shamed-trainer-and-denies-valentines-day-bust-up-rumours/ (https://theusposts.com/gordon-elliotts-girlfriend-kate-harrington-stands-by-shamed-trainer-and-denies-valentines-day-bust-up-rumours/)

Funny, same story (word for word) was published in The Sun but the link says page not available:

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/6675904/gordon-elliott-girlfriend-kate-harrington-denies-row/ (https://www.thesun.ie/sport/6675904/gordon-elliott-girlfriend-kate-harrington-denies-row/)
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: silverbullet on March 10, 2021, 05:46:18 pm
Gordon Elliott’s girlfriend Kate Harrington stands by shamed trainer and denies Valentine’s Day bust-up rumours

https://theusposts.com/gordon-elliotts-girlfriend-kate-harrington-stands-by-shamed-trainer-and-denies-valentines-day-bust-up-rumours/ (https://theusposts.com/gordon-elliotts-girlfriend-kate-harrington-stands-by-shamed-trainer-and-denies-valentines-day-bust-up-rumours/)

Funny, same story (word for word) was published in The Sun but the link says page not available:

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/6675904/gordon-elliott-girlfriend-kate-harrington-denies-row/ (https://www.thesun.ie/sport/6675904/gordon-elliott-girlfriend-kate-harrington-denies-row/)
Apart from the money, he's not exactly a  "catch". At least he has a stable partner...apart from the alleged digging match.
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Shallowhal on March 10, 2021, 05:55:50 pm
She sounds unstable!!
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: silverbullet on March 10, 2021, 05:58:24 pm
She sounds unstable!!
Still horse her out of it, even with the long face!
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 19, 2021, 09:29:33 pm
March 19 2021 08:21 PM

Simon McGonagle has been disqualified from racing for nine months at a referrals hearing of the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board after being found responsible for taking the photograph that led to trainer Gordon Elliott's suspension.

Seven months will be suspended for a period of one year, after which the disqualification lapses. The sanction takes effect from April 16.

The referral followed an IHRB investigation into an image circulating on social media which first came to their attention on February 27.

During the investigation, it was confirmed McGonagle, a head lad, took the photograph that incriminated Elliott.

Evidence was heard from McGonagle and Denise Foster, who is holding the licence at Cullentra House Stables while Elliott serves his suspension.

In his evidence, McGonagle outlined his experience and employment within racing over approximately 30 years, having been first employed by Elliott in 2007.

The committee heard McGonagle did not contest he took the photograph, that he captioned it and disseminated it to five friends. This ultimately led to the photograph becoming public from an unknown source. He accepted that "by virtue of his actions he was part of a chain of events that has caused damage to the integrity of racing and he fully understands the outrage expressed in relation to this image".

The referrals committee found McGonagle had acted in a manner which was prejudicial to the integrity, proper conduct and good reputation of horse racing.
   

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In their findings, they concluded: "We will not repeat what has been said before about the awful image at the heart of this case. The taking of the image was ill-judged and in bad taste and we consider that Mr McGonagle should have known better as a head lad involved in the industry for a considerable time.

"As head lad he should also show a good example to others in the yard. However, we reiterate the points made in the Elliott case that this incident is not concerned with cruelty or horse welfare. Also, having heard the evidence in this case we are no further on as to how this image came into the public domain and we can reach no conclusions on that issue.

"We reach the sanction having considered all of the circumstances, aggravating and mitigating factors, bearing in mind the seriousness of the offence and the need for deterrence, and considering Mr McGonagle's personal circumstances, in order to reach a proportionate result."
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Punter on March 20, 2021, 05:29:52 am
Maybe Kate is due an apology !
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: Shallowhal on March 20, 2021, 11:48:40 am
Maybe Kate is due an apology !

I'd say Gordon has already given her one....and an apology aswell!!
Title: Re: Gordon Elliott banned for one year with six months of the sentence suspended
Post by: john m on March 20, 2021, 11:55:41 am
Maybe Kate is due an apology !

Only got done for taking the photo  ,we still dont know who posted it ?The jury is still out on that one .