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Title: SGS
Post by: John m on March 12, 2023, 03:10:01 pm
Lad just rang me Crying .He got a New Motor traded the old one as part of the deal .He cannot get an SGS appointment .Called in to them was told that they only answer the phones between 9 and 9.20 in the morning .So he has no licenced Vehicle to work .Now what happens if you buy a Battery operated Taxi later in the year and your Grant offer is exhausted before you draw it down because you cannot get passed out in time ?
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on March 12, 2023, 03:24:42 pm
he'll be alright for fuck sake.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Jack Meoff on March 12, 2023, 03:49:02 pm
Go to a different testing centre.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: John m on March 12, 2023, 03:57:59 pm
Go to a different testing centre.

They wont answer the phone to give an appointment .Im sure he would travel if he could get an appointment .
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 12, 2023, 04:03:01 pm
Go to a different testing centre.

They wont answer the phone to give an appointment .Im sure he would travel if he could get an appointment .
I hung on from 16.10 to 16.55 to get through to someone on Friday, went through all the questions but in the end wouldn't give me an LRA appointment as I had only passed the NCT that morning, supposed to wait two working days before calling, but she said try on Monday. Her reason for the long waiting time is that they are too busy dealing with EV grant applications.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 12, 2023, 05:25:19 pm
Try Aplus+. SGS lost the contract a few years back.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on March 12, 2023, 07:10:12 pm
laffin.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Octavia1 on March 12, 2023, 07:50:41 pm
Lad just rang me Crying .He got a New Motor traded the old one as part of the deal .He cannot get an SGS appointment .Called in to them was told that they only answer the phones between 9 and 9.20 in the morning .So he has no licenced Vehicle to work .Now what happens if you buy a Battery operated Taxi later in the year and your Grant offer is exhausted before you draw it down because you cannot get passed out in time ?

I phoned them during week ...no problems except
My nct was out of date by a month ....ide forgotten all bout it ....sgs said no problem get nct an weel book ya in ...phoned nct got appointment for yesterday.....4 days after applying
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 13, 2023, 10:34:58 am
45 mins to get a reply at 10.15 this Monday am. Earliest booking fo Dublin next Monday, Galway next Thursday, took Kilkenny for 11.25am tomorrow Tuesday, either that or miss this big weekend after almost 6 weeks no work.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 13, 2023, 10:45:24 am
Bob if you promise not to crash it you can borrow my heap...she's no beauty but she does the job.

Hope you get sorted soon.Did you say you were renewing or doing the initial suitability inspection for a new motor?I need to book mine later on.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 13, 2023, 03:11:37 pm
Bob if you promise not to crash it you can borrow my heap...she's no beauty but she does the job.

Hope you get sorted soon.Did you say you were renewing or doing the initial suitability inspection for a new motor?I need to book mine later on.
Change of vehicle.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 13, 2023, 03:16:51 pm
I just got off the phone to them Bob after waiting exactly 45 minutes and they have multiple times and dates in Northwood for renewals from 21 March.I reckon they give out the dates according to your renewal window expiry.

Maybe initial suitability test is more work so they have less dates available.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Octavia1 on March 13, 2023, 06:17:45 pm
0818064000  this was the number I phoned 12.30 on a Tuesday  and I got through after a minute or 2 ...perhaps I got lucky
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2023, 06:28:17 pm
Did you get through to SGS, Applus+ or NTA, Octy?
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Tony on March 13, 2023, 07:21:47 pm
Did you get through to SGS, Applus+ or NTA, Octy?


All of the above known octy
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Octavia1 on March 13, 2023, 08:26:44 pm
Did you get through to SGS, Applus+ or NTA, Octy?

I don't know Rat to be honest ...don't know wer I got number from but the operator was going tru the process of booking the taxi test then aborted wen I told her / or she told me me nct was overdue a month
I've just looked at me ph records
014135960 is the phone number I phoned Cople minutes before that .....
Maybe I'm gettin mixed up wit the numbers but one them was the taxi licence test ....
I'm gettin bit confused lately ...tink its apathy , dementia or sumtin ...I used to be ocd bout these tings but lately I'm losing interest ... ::sleep
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Octavia1 on March 13, 2023, 08:28:19 pm
Just wonderin wat pH number others are usin ?
45 minute wait sounds painful
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Octavia1 on March 13, 2023, 08:33:12 pm
Yea the 0818 06400 is the nta test one  oops
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 13, 2023, 08:43:36 pm
Yea the 0818 06400 is the nta test one  oops
That's the one I called.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 13, 2023, 09:22:11 pm
Me too..same number.

They do ask a lot of unnecessary questions which doesn't help the wait times on the phone.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2023, 09:42:36 pm
Did you need to know your CCSN?
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 13, 2023, 10:39:32 pm
Yes I had it ready but it didn't seem to shorten the call that much.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Octavia1 on March 14, 2023, 12:24:56 am
Did you need to know your CCSN?

Yes you do ..which is   visible on the renewal email .....new stipulation apparently...
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 14, 2023, 04:07:02 am
45 mins to get a reply at 10.15 this Monday am. Earliest booking fo Dublin next Monday, Galway next Thursday, took Kilkenny for 11.25am tomorrow Tuesday, either that or miss this big weekend after almost 6 weeks no work.
I had the same problem a few years back after my car was repaired after a long absence, had to travel to Limerick next day or wait a week fer a Cork appointment.

Overall I have found the booking line to be very helpful if you are stuck but willing to travel.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 14, 2023, 04:09:39 am
..... My nct was out of date by a month ....ide forgotten all bout it ....sgs said no problem get nct an weel book ya in ...phoned nct got appointment for yesterday.....4 days after applying
Are you actually driving and working with an expired NCT ? 
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Octavia1 on March 14, 2023, 09:58:35 am
..... My nct was out of date by a month ....ide forgotten all bout it ....sgs said no problem get nct an weel book ya in ...phoned nct got appointment for yesterday.....4 days after applying
Are you actually driving and working with an expired NCT ?
Yes Ken...... month out of date ....forgot all bout it  ::sleep
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: watty on March 14, 2023, 03:27:23 pm
Rest easy about the NCT.

Almost 3,600 issued with penalty points for driving without valid NCT cert in 2022 (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/almost-3600-issued-with-penalty-points-for-driving-without-valid-nct-cert-in-2022-1447250.html)

Almost 3,600 people received penalty points for driving a car without a valid NCT cert in 2022.

BUT

The figure represents a slight drop from 2021, when 3,730 people were issued with penalty points.

AND TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE

Over 18,700 people got penalty points for holding a mobile phone while driving last year.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 15, 2023, 06:47:12 pm
..... My nct was out of date by a month ....ide forgotten all bout it ....sgs said no problem get nct an weel book ya in ...phoned nct got appointment for yesterday.....4 days after applying
Are you actually driving and working with an expired NCT ?
Yes Ken...... month out of date ....forgot all bout it  ::sleep
How de Fook could you forget as they send out reminder emails ??
Now that is Stoopid with a capital S !
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 15, 2023, 06:52:13 pm
Bob if you promise not to crash it you can borrow my heap...she's no beauty but she does the job.

Hope you get sorted soon.Did you say you were renewing or doing the initial suitability inspection for a new motor?I need to book mine later on.
Change of vehicle.
What did you trade to Harry ?
Please don't say EV !!
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Octavia1 on March 15, 2023, 07:05:58 pm
..... My nct was out of date by a month ....ide forgotten all bout it ....sgs said no problem get nct an weel book ya in ...phoned nct got appointment for yesterday.....4 days after applying
Are you actually driving and working with an expired NCT ?
Yes Ken...... month out of date ....forgot all bout it  ::sleep
How de Fook could you forget as they send out reminder emails ??
Now that is Stoopid with a capital S !

 startin to not giv a bollix Ken  ...
Too many knocks in life , apathy , lethargy an boredom ....this time of yer always passes me off  ....I wrote to the mod in England an offered me services to fix tanks in Ukraime bout a month ago ... but they havny wrote back yet ...
Maybe the lost me email or sumtin  ::fds
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 15, 2023, 07:37:52 pm
..... My nct was out of date by a month ....ide forgotten all bout it ....sgs said no problem get nct an weel book ya in ...phoned nct got appointment for yesterday.....4 days after applying
Are you actually driving and working with an expired NCT ?
Yes Ken...... month out of date ....forgot all bout it  ::sleep
How de Fook could you forget as they send out reminder emails ??
Now that is Stoopid with a capital S !
startin to not giv a bollix Ken  ...
Too many knocks in life , apathy , lethargy an boredom ....this time of yer always passes me off  ....I wrote to the mod in England an offered me services to fix tanks in Ukraime bout a month ago ... but they havny wrote back yet ...
Maybe the lost me email or sumtin  ::fds
If'n you were MOD in England, would you have hired you ?
As fer hard knocks yer not even in my league but I just get on with it.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 15, 2023, 07:46:04 pm
Bob if you promise not to crash it you can borrow my heap...she's no beauty but she does the job.

Hope you get sorted soon.Did you say you were renewing or doing the initial suitability inspection for a new motor?I need to book mine later on.
Change of vehicle.
What did you trade to Harry ?
Please don't say EV !!
Camry Hybrid.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 15, 2023, 07:58:44 pm
Bob if you promise not to crash it you can borrow my heap...she's no beauty but she does the job.

Hope you get sorted soon.Did you say you were renewing or doing the initial suitability inspection for a new motor?I need to book mine later on.
Change of vehicle.
What did you trade to Harry ?
Please don't say EV !!
Camry Hybrid.
Oh, Wow !  I'm jealous as Fook !
'Well Wear' my friend.  ::cheers
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Octavia1 on March 15, 2023, 08:27:52 pm
..... My nct was out of date by a month ....ide forgotten all bout it ....sgs said no problem get nct an weel book ya in ...phoned nct got appointment for yesterday.....4 days after applying
Are you actually driving and working with an expired NCT ?
Yes Ken...... month out of date ....forgot all bout it  ::sleep
How de Fook could you forget as they send out reminder emails ??
Now that is Stoopid with a capital S !
startin to not giv a bollix Ken  ...
Too many knocks in life , apathy , lethargy an boredom ....this time of yer always passes me off  ....I wrote to the mod in England an offered me services to fix tanks in Ukraime bout a month ago ... but they havny wrote back yet ...
Maybe the lost me email or sumtin  ::fds
If'n you were MOD in England, would you have hired you ?
As fer hard knocks yer not even in my league but I just get on with it.

Yea Ken...I admire ya for that ...I wish I was more like ya in some ways ....in other ways I tink yur madder than me but that's probably pushing it a bit  lol
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 15, 2023, 08:50:27 pm
Bob if you promise not to crash it you can borrow my heap...she's no beauty but she does the job.

Hope you get sorted soon.Did you say you were renewing or doing the initial suitability inspection for a new motor?I need to book mine later on.
Change of vehicle.
What did you trade to Harry ?
Please don't say EV !!
Camry Hybrid.
Oh, Wow !  I'm jealous as Fook !
'Well Wear' my friend.  ::cheers
Thanks Ken.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 15, 2023, 09:17:33 pm
FFS, Ya got me thinking now !

I was dead set on a new 2027 Corolla, which I don't really like but at about 35 large by then it was affordable.
The Camry at 45 would mean to do a tad more work the next few years which would hardly kill me.
Food fer Thought ! Thanks Harry.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: watty on March 15, 2023, 09:42:38 pm
I think the Camry has privacy glass that won't pass suitability and will need changing?
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 15, 2023, 10:22:52 pm
I think the Camry has privacy glass that won't pass suitability and will need changing?
A good few Camry's on the road as Taxies down here, maybe Bob could fill us in about the glass bit ?
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 15, 2023, 10:47:39 pm
Belker speak to your accountant but you could probably claim the accelerated capital allowances on the Avensis if you haven't already then trade up to a Camry and not be massively out of pocket over the course of the next few years.I'm only saying it because you work hard.

Those newer Camrys are getting 50mpg which is probably alot more than the diesel.No more DPFs or turbos.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 15, 2023, 11:43:45 pm
Belker speak to your accountant but you could probably claim the accelerated capital allowances on the Avensis if you haven't already then trade up to a Camry and not be massively out of pocket over the course of the next few years.......
Could you explain that a little bit more MFH (as in detail), as I'm ultra thick on tax things.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 16, 2023, 12:10:28 am
Eh I'm no expert Belker...RC is ..
I believe you can write off the full cost of the Avensis over a shorter timeframe if you wanted to against your tax liabilities.

So if you paid 21k for example on the Avensis you could write off the cost of the car over three years rather than 7 years  or whatever ammount of time your keeping it.Buy the Camry if you have the funds then start the tax write off again claiming the allowances off your tax bill.

You may have already done this through your accountant so I'm just throwing the idea at you.Most of us are paying more taxes as things have picked up so could be worth looking into before you throw money at the DPF again.

Because I don't work too hard it pays off for me to keep my heap as long as possible.For you it might not be the same.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 16, 2023, 12:32:47 am
I think the Camry has privacy glass that won't pass suitability and will need changing?
Yes rear fly and main windows below 70% visibility so mains had to be changed, windows €280, fitting €120. Passed suitability ok.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Panel on March 16, 2023, 01:23:20 am
I think the Camry has privacy glass that won't pass suitability and will need changing?
Yes rear fly and main windows below 70% visibility so mains had to be changed, windows €280, fitting €120. Passed suitability ok.

Think the Camrys are as comfy as most mercs now, without the headaches
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Jack Meoff on March 16, 2023, 10:33:55 am
Toyota will give taxi drivers a special price on the Camry
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 16, 2023, 12:50:54 pm
Nice one, BS. Best of luck with it.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 16, 2023, 01:22:53 pm
Belker speak to your accountant but you could probably claim the accelerated capital allowances on the Avensis if you haven't already then trade up to a Camry and not be massively out of pocket over the course of the next few years.......
Could you explain that a little bit more MFH (as in detail), as I'm ultra thick on tax things.

You have two options for Wear & Tear Capital Allowance, Ken. The accelerated option is only available to full-time taxi drivers but I'm not sure what definition Revenue apply to full-time i.e. whether they look at the proportion of earned income derived from the trade or the actual number of hours you work. In any event, I wouldn't get bogged down on it 'cos either method gives the same end result i.e. the qualifying expenditure is written off against income tax.

If you don't elect for the accelerated option you simply claim qualifying expenditure (cost less provision for private use subject to Revenue limits) over 8 years on a straight line basis i.e. 12.5% per annum.

Ir you elect for the accelerated option you claim qualifying expenditure at 40% on a reducing balance basis e.g. if QE is 20,000 you would claim:
8,000 in year one
4,800 in year two
2,880 in year three
etc

In both cases when you dispose of the car you claim a balancing allowance or addback a balancing charge calculated as the written down value minus the sale price e.g. if your car has a written down value of 12,000 and you sell it for 10,000 you'd have a balancing allowance of 2,000... if you sold it for 14,000 you'd have a balancing charge of 2,000. Hence , in cumulative terms, it generally makes little or no difference which basis you choose as the end sum is the same either way, bearing in mind the fact that you can carry any unused allowances forward to offset against profits from the same trade in future periods.

In essence, the reducing balance method is best suited where you replace your car quite frequently e.g. every 3 years. Similarly, the straight line basis is generally the best option if you intend to keep the car for 7 or 8 years...
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 16, 2023, 01:33:52 pm
Toyota will give taxi drivers a special price on the Camry
Wish I'ld known that!
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 16, 2023, 01:36:29 pm
Nice one, BS. Best of luck with it.
Thanks RC
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Jack Meoff on March 16, 2023, 01:43:42 pm
Toyota will give taxi drivers a special price on the Camry
Wish I'ld known that!

You have to contact Toyota head office.
Did you buy new ?
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 16, 2023, 01:53:26 pm
Toyota will give taxi drivers a special price on the Camry
Wish I'ld known that!

You have to contact Toyota head office.
Did you buy new ?
Bought a 31/8/222 registered car from a Toyota Dealer up country with 7 kilometres on the clock. The car was registered to an employee of the garage, but never taxed, and never left the show room window, which was where I viewed it.
Any idea what the discount is from head office.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Jack Meoff on March 16, 2023, 02:08:28 pm
I don’t know.
Knew a driver that got it.
Had to fill out a lot of forms to get it.
Not even the sales reps in the garage knew about the discount.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: watty on March 16, 2023, 07:25:43 pm
I think the Camry has privacy glass that won't pass suitability and will need changing?
Yes rear fly and main windows below 70% visibility so mains had to be changed, windows €280, fitting €120. Passed suitability ok.

Where ya waiting 2 weeks for the windows?  2 weeks wasted if you're tight for cash and need to get back on the road asap.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 16, 2023, 08:04:20 pm
I think the Camry has privacy glass that won't pass suitability and will need changing?
Yes rear fly and main windows below 70% visibility so mains had to be changed, windows €280, fitting €120. Passed suitability ok.

Where ya waiting 2 weeks for the windows?  2 weeks wasted if you're tight for cash and need to get back on the road asap.
No cause of delay on windows.Main delays were sourcing a car, organising money,insurance fix/write off decision, getting it regged in my name, taxing it, getting the NCT booking, then suitability. All good now, tonight will be third night out.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 17, 2023, 12:27:24 pm
You have two options for Wear & Tear Capital Allowance, Ken. The accelerated option is only available to full-time taxi drivers but I'm not sure what definition Revenue apply to full-time i.e. whether they look at the proportion of earned income derived from the trade or the actual number of hours you work. In any event, I wouldn't get bogged down on it 'cos either method gives the same end result i.e. the qualifying expenditure is written off against income tax.


Just to clarify, QE is written against taxable income not income tax. Apologies, I musta been in a hurry to get horizontal on the couch for the first race when I typed that.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 17, 2023, 12:41:23 pm
Thanks for explaining it better than I could RC.

I was just thinking the dream car for Belker might not be as expensive as he thinks when improved fuel economy,lower maintenance costs compared to his current problematic diesel and taxation stuff is factored in.

Not a free car by any means.


I'm interested in hearing Bobs Toyota Camry fuel efficiency compared to the Mercedes diesel.Hopefully it's better!
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 17, 2023, 04:45:11 pm
Thanks for explaining it better than I could RC.

I was just thinking the dream car for Belker might not be as expensive as he thinks when improved fuel economy,lower maintenance costs compared to his current problematic diesel and taxation stuff is factored in.

Not a free car by any means.


I'm interested in hearing Bobs Toyota Camry fuel efficiency compared to the Mercedes diesel.Hopefully it's better!
. Mercedes screen said 7.3 litres per 100km. With 1300 km on the Camry the screen says 5.4 litres per 100km. included in 1300km was a trip back from Monaghan, return trip to Tinahealy, return trip to Kilkenny, various Licence set up appointments, local social trips, and 3 nights work. So far that's 38.69mpg in old money, compared to 52.31mpg.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 17, 2023, 06:00:03 pm
That's fairly impressive Bob for such a big car.Should help keep the overheads down.Mine gets similar MPG and it's has less power and it's a smaller vehicle.

No emmisons tests at NCT should help too.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 17, 2023, 06:28:09 pm
That's fairly impressive Bob for such a big car.Should help keep the overheads down.Mine gets similar MPG and it's has less power and it's a smaller vehicle.

No emmisons tests at NCT should help too.
Yeah, I'm happy with that for a 2.5l petrol hybrid, but having said that I am consciously trying, in my driviing, to maximise it, at the moment, to justify the purchase to myself, maybe I will get less careful in the future. Independant road tests say ECO city 4 litres, 90kph 4.5 litres, 120kph 5.8 litres, but that's without a roofsign, as was every journey before I started working.
Same test for the Corolla TS 1.8 litre petrol says 3.5l, 4.3l, 5.6l.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 17, 2023, 07:57:20 pm
Sounds good Bob.I can't talk about the 2.5 Camry but no matter how drive my yoke I still get the same economy.

If you're flooring the thing it just recoups more energy when you slow down so it will still get decent economy.City driving will get the best results out of the hybrid system but they're just engineered to be frugal....like meself.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 20, 2023, 10:13:41 am
Belker speak to your accountant but you could probably claim the accelerated capital allowances on the Avensis if you haven't already then trade up to a Camry and not be massively out of pocket over the course of the next few years.......
Could you explain that a little bit more MFH (as in detail), as I'm ultra thick on tax things.

You have two options for Wear & Tear Capital Allowance, Ken. The accelerated option is only available to full-time taxi drivers but I'm not sure what definition Revenue apply to full-time i.e. whether they look at the proportion of earned income derived from the trade or the actual number of hours you work. In any event, I wouldn't get bogged down on it 'cos either method gives the same end result i.e. the qualifying expenditure is written off against income tax.

If you don't elect for the accelerated option you simply claim qualifying expenditure (cost less provision for private use subject to Revenue limits) over 8 years on a straight line basis i.e. 12.5% per annum.

Ir you elect for the accelerated option you claim qualifying expenditure at 40% on a reducing balance basis e.g. if QE is 20,000 you would claim:
8,000 in year one
4,800 in year two
2,880 in year three
etc

In both cases when you dispose of the car you claim a balancing allowance or addback a balancing charge calculated as the written down value minus the sale price e.g. if your car has a written down value of 12,000 and you sell it for 10,000 you'd have a balancing allowance of 2,000... if you sold it for 14,000 you'd have a balancing charge of 2,000. Hence , in cumulative terms, it generally makes little or no difference which basis you choose as the end sum is the same either way, bearing in mind the fact that you can carry any unused allowances forward to offset against profits from the same trade in future periods.

In essence, the reducing balance method is best suited where you replace your car quite frequently e.g. every 3 years. Similarly, the straight line basis is generally the best option if you intend to keep the car for 7 or 8 years...
Thanks Stephen, I didn't understand a lot of that, but I might give you a ring about it someday.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Punter on March 20, 2023, 12:16:10 pm
I bought a new Carina in early 90 S from Mahony's--dealer margins in those days were up around 14% and you got 7 points for cash and extra 1% fleet discount for Taxi trade --they applied for it !
Doubt they'll be keen to do it (if its still available )once deal complete-------  maybe an enquiry to HQ saying your contemplating purchase and are there fleet discounts available ?

Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 20, 2023, 04:08:16 pm
Sounds good Bob.I can't talk about the 2.5 Camry but no matter how drive my yoke I still get the same economy.

If you're flooring the thing it just recoups more energy when you slow down so it will still get decent economy.City driving will get the best results out of the hybrid system but they're just engineered to be frugal....like meself.
Forgot that I'm also saving on Adblue, a 1 lite per 1000km, which has doubled in price over the last year.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 21, 2023, 10:24:16 pm
.... No emmisons tests at NCT should help too.
Is there really no emmisions test on a hybrid at NCT ?
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 21, 2023, 11:45:38 pm
Not yet Belker.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 22, 2023, 02:13:12 am
Not yet Belker.
I suppose as it's running on battery when stationary it's hard to test the emmisions ??
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 22, 2023, 07:03:07 am
In California they do test them.I think there is a way it's just that so far it hasn't been a priority.

If you press down on the accelerator while the brake is on the petrol engine fires up on mine.   
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 23, 2023, 11:50:58 am
Other way round on my diesel Octy... i.e. pressing the brake pedal while the accelerator pedal is pressed cancels acceleration... understandably, I guess.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Belker on March 24, 2023, 10:20:59 am
Could they not just press the accelerator while the car is in neutral ?
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 24, 2023, 10:49:18 am
Yes it actually works when it's in Park position too Belker ,I forgot.But when these vehicles were first built in 1998 they were miles ahead of diesels in terms of emmisons so they weren't deemed to be a big poluter.There was a time when half of Hollywood were driving them to show their planet saving bolloxollgy side when they weren't driving their Hummers and Lambos.

I'm sure in time they'll test them eventually but petrol engines aren't big fails at the emmisons tests AFAIK.

They don't use very much juice so they can't really pollute that much.I think Toyota had some marketing shite on the back of a bus saying one diesel engined car gives out more Nox gas than 20 hybrids.Dunno how true it was.
Title: Re: SGS
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 24, 2023, 04:15:07 pm
Our diesel emmissions testing is pretty dated too, MfH. They only measure smoke hence cars with DPFs removed can still pass.