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Title: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 22, 2019, 12:33:37 pm
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cork-td-proposes-uber-style-taxi-service-in-isolated-rural-areas-899259.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cork-td-proposes-uber-style-taxi-service-in-isolated-rural-areas-899259.html)
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: stonethecrows on January 22, 2019, 12:38:06 pm
"The TD also said legislation may need to change to deal with the issue of insurance."
 Bollx if this happens every cnut on the road will become a "Uber"

"The insurance companies should be offering a reduction to people who do this."
 Bollx again , we are charged a lot more on our insurance premiums for carrying pax.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Octavia1 on January 22, 2019, 12:51:19 pm
The axa are already in partnership wit uber around the world.....
Axa  will offer huge reductions for this as it will stop drunk boggers cnuts from crashing all over the bog... And will be the start of getting rid of the taxi industry which is full  of cnuts renting an not given a fk and driving like fuking lunatics
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 22, 2019, 12:52:28 pm
Doesn't affect anyone outside rural areas so far............30 yrs ago The Step Inn was in the middle of the country and HB was from the country also..........
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on January 22, 2019, 01:04:48 pm
Doesn't affect anyone outside rural areas so far............30 yrs ago The Step Inn was in the middle of the country and HB was from the country also..........

Of course it affects us lads working the bog will rent out their taxi to some Asian to work Dublin,Cork or Galway and uber his birds car .
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 22, 2019, 01:06:16 pm
Doesn't affect anyone outside rural areas so far............30 yrs ago The Step Inn was in the middle of the country and HB was from the country also..........

Of course it affects us lads working the bog will rent out their taxi to some Asian to work Dublin,Cork or Galway and uber his birds car .


Sarcasm..............get back to your other job, ya bleedin' chancer........
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 22, 2019, 01:08:27 pm
The axa are already in partnership wit uber around the world.....
Axa  will offer huge reductions for this as it will stop drunk boggers cnuts from crashing all over the bog... And will be the start of getting rid of the taxi industry which is full  of cnuts renting an not given a fk and driving like fuking lunatics

The beginning of the end was yrs ago for rural taximen.............meters in Portlaoise and other big towns and forced to charge a fiver for a local run........do or die. The smart ones did and the others waited for death............Dublin is where it's at.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: watty on January 22, 2019, 03:25:18 pm
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Guide_for_obtaining_a_local_area_hackney_licence1.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Guide_for_obtaining_a_local_area_hackney_licence1.pdf)  (PDF)

Repeat after me  ::fight   ** LOCAL AREA HACKNEY **  :o  ???  :o

I think it's less than e100 each for the car and the driver to get licenced...  And then you can give up your Sat nights driving drunks up and down boreens for a fiver  lol

Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on January 22, 2019, 03:28:54 pm
Election Time Watty this lad is electioneering  dont be surprised if there is an extra european parliament seat in cork this lad goes for it .He will never be a minister as cork have coveney .
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 22, 2019, 03:41:02 pm
More likely to be mytaxi rideshare than Uber.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Jack Meoff on January 22, 2019, 05:51:23 pm
Ah sur the taximen in Dublin are afraid of a bit of hard graft.
Can’t get past 20 hours a week.
Open it back up again.
Saloon plates for everyone in the audience.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 22, 2019, 08:13:58 pm
I've done 30 hours the last couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Octavia1 on January 22, 2019, 08:31:33 pm
January is my summer holidays.... Get away from all the flu an mange cnuts and it's quiet.... Taxi driving is a hobby... If you think driving a car is hard graft......then  you've never done a days work in yur life
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: silverbullet on January 22, 2019, 08:53:38 pm
One TD that no one listens to.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Jack Meoff on January 22, 2019, 10:58:30 pm
January is my summer holidays.... Get away from all the flu an mange cnuts and it's quiet.... Taxi driving is a hobby... If you think driving a car is hard graft......then  you've never done a days work in yur life

Sez the man with is easel and paint brush
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 22, 2019, 11:41:23 pm
even if uber ever started in rural areas in ireland, who would be bothered to sign up? what would you have for your night if any ejit with a smart phone was signed up? 30 euro for dealing with drunks driving your car on $hit rural roads. would you not be better off having a night out for yourself.


if it came in though, what is to stop jimmy and mary driving from the sticks to a city and working there for the night?

even small towns have enough taxis and buses to get people home on a night out.

Speaking about why this service is needed, Minister Daly said: "Taxis do not operate in most towns with a population of less than 7,500, more than 30 minutes from a city" and added that hackney services are not usually available on call either.



????  crazy statement above from this TD.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 23, 2019, 05:19:27 am
"This would be for areas with a population of less than 5,000 so it won't impinge on existing taxis and taxi services because they're non-existant in most of the areas that I represent," Minister Daly told C103 radio.

I can't see uber or any other app rideshare group being in any way interested in taking on rural areas only.
Even MyTaxi as it is currently don't operate in rural areas.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 23, 2019, 07:17:49 am
It's been known for a long time that Uber likes to throw a few brown envelopes around in whichever market they wanna enter.Every so often some unknown politician starts calling for Uber to solve all our problems.I'd say it drives them nuts that the NTA gave them the cold shoulder on all previous proposals.

But when ya think Uber drivers typically pay 20/25% commission and we're paying 12.5% plus free waiting time to Mytaxi and freely covering our taxis in Mytaxi logos we're not much better off than if we were working for Uber ourselves.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 23, 2019, 07:28:12 am
Again it is uber barking at the door, I suppose if they did get in on the Rural bit they wouldn't be long expanding out to the cities.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 23, 2019, 08:53:52 am
We might as well just work for them and get it done with.Mytaxi are busy pushing newbies through the test and pushing 100% card payments.No ten-year ruke etc..Uber doesn't sound that bad after all.Ya wouldn't even need stickers on yer doors.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 23, 2019, 09:18:39 am
Healy-Raes very quiet at the mo.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 23, 2019, 09:42:34 am
I dont understand why ye want to work with ANY of them at all.get out and find your own work .what kind of drivers are ya that you need to be spoon fed ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 23, 2019, 09:45:28 am
No harm knowing what's going on, Dalyer. Half the people dining at your Xmas table were probably not your friends..........doesn't matter...........keeping informed is what this is about.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 23, 2019, 09:48:44 am
Even to the extent that you feel your back in the PAYE sector ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 23, 2019, 09:53:02 am
I've no control over what other people perceive as good or bad for this game, Dalyer. Someone else said on Roy's that if it's not Hail0 then it'll be some other crowd. There's a massive push towards getting the whole thing tied up with cashless and drivers tied down with loyalty and availability. As I've said on countless occasions..........if you want to survive, behave like John M and others..........play the auld soldier. I can make a ton by doing a shift in a restaurant if it comes to it.........if I could be bothered updating my skills to include all the modern health and safety crap........
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 23, 2019, 10:08:28 am
I dont understand why ye want to work with ANY of them at all.get out and find your own work .what kind of drivers are ya that you need to be spoon fed ?
Where would you go to find work mid week at 4am in the morning DM ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 23, 2019, 10:13:39 am
Same as I do belker,I float around. Maybe im just lucky,but when I left the PAYE sector,it wasto be my own boss.not to told by another company what to do
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Octavia1 on January 23, 2019, 10:15:21 am
How much would it cost the government every week to pay dole and all the ancillaries to the immigrant asylums seekin downtrodden taxi drivers they fuk out of a job by bringing in uber.....
It mite be impossible for me or you to get the government to pay me mortgage but the tortured exiles will walk straight into a new upgraded gaff.... An all thr bells an whistles.....
Who thr fuk is going pay for that?
The European experiment?  Or you an me.... Or fukin uber....
People are tired of this global shite.......
I see the new RA is startin up again...im sure they'll be getting a few more recruitment... The old one is sold out to career men ..
People are tired of uda men coming down here evicting pensioners....
They fed up with not been able to buy w gaff an Facebook writing cheques for the blocks of gaffs going up... Tired of American scum bank jew zero tax paying vultures evicting and putting up rent whilst our own youngsters are fuckin emigratin in a boom cause they can't afford a gaff....
I'm getting tired of this shite and them fianna gowl fukin traiters and no fukin insurrection....
Gimme a fukin gun

Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 23, 2019, 10:19:48 am
I dunno about you or how Dooblin works DM, but down here in Cork the streets are Dry every mid week night from 3.30am on. The only work and good work available in those hours is MyTaxi work and I am as an Ambassador and almost always with priority sit at the Top of the Tree.
I'd rather pay 12% of a lot (with PUC) than 0% of Fook all sitting on a ghost rank at 4am.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 23, 2019, 10:36:50 am
Same as I do belker,I float around. Maybe im just lucky,but when I left the PAYE sector,it wasto be my own boss.not to told by another company what to do
I dunno where your getting the "Told what to do" bit from DM ?
MyTaxi offer jobs, you take them or leave them as you please,
there is No "Told to" in the scenario.
Do you really think that I could be "Told what to do" ?  lol
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: stonethecrows on January 23, 2019, 10:39:59 am
Shit or get off the Pot
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 23, 2019, 10:46:49 am
Ken as I said before,I have much less of a problem with apps,then I do with radio companies.but yes drivers aligned to radio companies DO indeed allow themselves to be told what to do.example wear a uniform (which they must pay for ) offer discounts (at their own expense ) accept disciplinary action for giving back discounted work,generally accepting rules laid down for them by these leeches Kelly Kearns Ebbs etc etc accepting work going out the back door to the base mans cronies and not having the balls to challenge it etc and these drivers call themselves self employed ? ha ha
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Jack Meoff on January 23, 2019, 10:49:40 am
I dont understand why ye want to work with ANY of them at all.get out and find your own work .what kind of drivers are ya that you need to be spoon fed ?

It was prob like the end of the world yesterday for some drivers when the app went down.
Couldn’t go to work as no one to tell them what to do.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 23, 2019, 10:59:59 am
Ken as I said before,I have much less of a problem with apps,then I do with radio companies.but yes drivers aligned to radio companies DO indeed allow themselves to be told what to do.example wear a uniform (which they must pay for ) offer discounts (at their own expense ) accept disciplinary action for giving back discounted work,generally accepting rules laid down for them by these leeches Kelly Kearns Ebbs etc etc accepting work going out the back door to the base mans cronies and not having the balls to challenge it etc and these drivers call themselves self employed ? ha ha

The younger brother is a skilled tradesman...............he laughs when asked if self-employed............."cop on..........my customers own me and tell me exactly what to do." It's a myth that anyone is in control........hours worked versus hours available to work...........
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 23, 2019, 11:14:51 am
Ken as I said before,I have much less of a problem with apps,then I do with radio companies.

That's mad... working for C2K used to cost me €80/week with all hotel/pub/car hire return shed bribes included. Working for my taxi costs me €3+/hour and would cost more if I covered hotel/pub/car hire return shed jobs.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Jack Meoff on January 23, 2019, 11:42:35 am
Ken as I said before,I have much less of a problem with apps,then I do with radio companies.

That's mad... working for C2K used to cost me €80/week with all hotel/pub/car hire return shed bribes included. Working for my taxi costs me €3+/hour and would cost more if I covered hotel/pub/car hire return shed jobs.

How many hours did you work a week for C2K compared to mytaxi ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 23, 2019, 12:08:23 pm
Probably averaged 50 hours a week on weeks that I paid the freight... as a practicing alcoholic I skipped a lot more weeks than I should have and compensated to some extent by binge working. You'd cover more jobs with C2K though - shorter run-ins, folk ready and waiting, base pick ups, etc... hence a lot more PUCs and better tips.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Jack Meoff on January 23, 2019, 12:14:57 pm
So it was cheeper to work with C2K than mytaxi.
If you worked 50 hours with the base it would cost you 80 bucks a week,
Work the same hours with mytaxi and your looking at 150 plus a week.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 23, 2019, 12:18:31 pm
Indeed, if I was full-time mytaxi would cost at least twice what we used to pay Irish dispatch firms.... Imagine what it costs Ambassadors with priority who cover "hospitality" jobs.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 23, 2019, 12:35:32 pm
Don't be letting Jack Me Off/Deboy/Lost me Ring to Paddy Power/Huge Knob, Etc, Etc
be getting at ya Stephen, he is a unintelligent Troll, always has been and ever will be.

I'll PM ya his badge number.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Jack Meoff on January 23, 2019, 01:21:32 pm
Don't be letting Jack Me Off/Deboy/Lost me Ring to Paddy Power/Huge Knob, Etc, Etc
be getting at ya Stephen, he is a unintelligent Troll, always has been and ever will be.

I'll PM ya his badge number.

Sez the wife beating mong
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 23, 2019, 01:45:45 pm
do you think this TDS "great idea" will happen?

I don't for the following reasons.

it was looked at only a couple of years ago by Ross and it was decided it was not a good idea, what has changed since?

Uber is being banned in countries every other day. (banned in Brussels lately)

we already have rural hackneys for this problem of people living in rural areas, if the incentive is not there to operate as a rural hackney where you keep 100% of your profits, then why would you want to hand over a percentage of your income to Uber for doing the same job?

how are they going to police what areas people can work for uber, there are plenty of small towns which have rural hackneys, hackneys and taxis and buses so these guys aren't going to be happy about their income being halved if not putting them out of business.

the taxis and hackneys will not lie down and accept this without protests.

Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 23, 2019, 01:55:30 pm
Ill gladly work the country if there is such a shortage of taxis ,but there will be none of this fiver fare business ,they'll pay whats on the meter or walk.country drivers put themselves in that stupid stupid position  position in the first place
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 23, 2019, 02:00:24 pm
There isn't a shortage of taxis in the country though. it is hard to get a taxi in a country town only from say 1.30 pm to 3.30 pm on a saturday night but that is the same in the cities. any other time it is no problem getting a taxi, you will have one in 5 or ten minutes if you need one.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on January 23, 2019, 02:00:48 pm
do you think this TDS "great idea" will happen?

I don't for the following reasons.

it was looked at only a couple of years ago by Ross and it was decided it was not a good idea, what has changed since?

Uber is being banned in countries every other day. (banned in Brussels lately)

we already have rural hackneys for this problem of people living in rural areas, if the incentive is not there to operate as a rural hackney where you keep 100% of your profits, then why would you want to hand over a percentage of your income to Uber for doing the same job?

how are they going to police what areas people can work for uber, there are plenty of small towns which have rural hackneys, hackneys and taxis and buses so these guys aren't going to be happy about their income being halved if not putting them out of business.

the taxis and hackneys will not lie down and accept this without protests.

Ill tell the truth you can listen if you want .Rideshare is a certainty to be introduced in Ireland especially in rural Ireland .You say Taxi drivers wont stand for it .Most drivers work Dublin ,Cork,Galway as long as it dosent effect them they wont give a fuck (fact) Only in Ireland ,London ,Paris,New york has taxi driving ever been considered a career in most other places it is a stop gap for people between jobs or social misfits or minimum wage mediteranian jobs for pot bellied men .
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 23, 2019, 02:09:48 pm
well if it comes in at all, it will be allowed in all irish cities as well so all taxi drivers should protest if there is a chance of it coming in at all.


Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on January 23, 2019, 02:22:47 pm
well if it comes in at all, it will be allowed in all irish cities as well so all taxi drivers should protest if there is a chance of it coming in at all.

They voted in Limerick Council to allow it but Ross said No .Its simple if it is a vote winner in Rural Ireland then it will come in .The rep bodies never read the Goodbody report it clearly stated that there is a shortage of taxies at prime time especially on Friday and saturday nights .Dont be surprised to see the introduction of a Prime time licence which allows cars associated with a dispatcher being allowed pick up passengers with CC payments only that will record earnings for revenue purposes .Dont know if you were on Roys where I forcast work capture and ambassadors ie feeding the chosen few .When me taxi have 100% coverage all over the country they will encourage the Minister that this is a vote winner .I doubt Irish drivers would burn busses and bomb rail lines and sabotage the luas lines  but I could be wrong .Doctors and nurses are willing to let patients die for their pay rise .
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Panel on January 23, 2019, 03:57:13 pm
https://www.lobbying.ie/return/33850/vintners-federation-of-ireland (https://www.lobbying.ie/return/33850/vintners-federation-of-ireland)


Vintners federation is doing Uber’s bidding.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 23, 2019, 04:10:58 pm
do you think this TDS "great idea" will happen?

I don't for the following reasons.

it was looked at only a couple of years ago by Ross and it was decided it was not a good idea, what has changed since?

Uber is being banned in countries every other day. (banned in Brussels lately)

we already have rural hackneys for this problem of people living in rural areas, if the incentive is not there to operate as a rural hackney where you keep 100% of your profits, then why would you want to hand over a percentage of your income to Uber for doing the same job?

how are they going to police what areas people can work for uber, there are plenty of small towns which have rural hackneys, hackneys and taxis and buses so these guys aren't going to be happy about their income being halved if not putting them out of business.

the taxis and hackneys will not lie down and accept this without protests.

Ill tell the truth you can listen if you want .Rideshare is a certainty to be introduced in Ireland especially in rural Ireland .You say Taxi drivers wont stand for it .Most drivers work Dublin ,Cork,Galway as long as it dosent effect them they wont give a fuck (fact) Only in Ireland ,London ,Paris,New york has taxi driving ever been considered a career in most other places it is a stop gap for people between jobs or social misfits or minimum wage mediteranian jobs for pot bellied men .

True to the letter.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 23, 2019, 05:16:40 pm
does anyone know how the recruitment drive from the NTA  for new entrants into the taxi game went last year?

Insurance cost is the biggest reason the NTA had to go looking for new taxi drivers, insurance is way too high for new entrants into this game.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 23, 2019, 05:51:15 pm
I cant see how anyone in their right minds thinks we more taxi drivers,thete is STILL far to fukking many
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: watty on January 23, 2019, 05:58:37 pm
does anyone know how the recruitment drive from the NTA  for new entrants into the taxi game went last year?

Insurance cost is the biggest reason the NTA had to go looking for new taxi drivers, insurance is way too high for new entrants into this game.


Re drivers,
Have a look at RC's Cead Mile Failte (http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=9128.0) page to get a feel for all the new lemmings entering the game.
The 2017 Stats Bulletin (link below) has 26,012 drivers at end of 2017 while their stats page (see below) has 26,255 at 31 Sept 2018.
A difference of 243.
I never counted the people in RC's page but I guess it's higher than 243.  It's more current than the NTA stats!

Re vehicles,
The 2017 NTA Statistical Bulletin (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Taxi_Bulletin_2018_V2_Web.pdf) (pub. Apr 2018) had 20,81 sPSV vehicle licences in the whole country.
Their stats page (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/taxi/taxi-statistics/active-vehicle-licences/) (31 Sept 2018) has 20,621 sPSV vehicle licences.
A difference of 1,202 vehicles in 9 months...

Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 23, 2019, 06:15:46 pm
How the fukk do the NTA think we need more drivers ?-the fukking kip is already overloaded with them
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 23, 2019, 06:20:59 pm
Taxi drivers Won't stand for it, erm? Who's delusional now... the Ambassadors will advertise it FFS!
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 23, 2019, 06:25:36 pm
Sure dont the radio companies,and apps,actually recruit new drivers right undert the noses of existing drivers ? Its just another example of existing aligned drivers having no balls
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 23, 2019, 06:32:47 pm
Yep. mytaxi (who you prefer to Irish taxi firms) pay new drivers a bonus of c.€1,000 for passing the test... after they teach them how to pass the test.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: silverbullet on January 23, 2019, 06:41:28 pm
https://www.lobbying.ie/return/33850/vintners-federation-of-ireland (https://www.lobbying.ie/return/33850/vintners-federation-of-ireland)


Vintners federation is doing Uber’s bidding.
Bar owners telling Government what to do.
How about Night clubs staying open til six as in Europe?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: silverbullet on January 23, 2019, 06:43:38 pm
Yep. mytaxi (who you prefer to Irish taxi firms) pay new drivers a bonus of c.€1,000 for passing the test... after they teach them how to pass the test.
MYTAXI Ireland is owned by a guy in Shankill.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 07:26:26 am
Yep. mytaxi (who you prefer to Irish taxi firms) pay new drivers a bonus of c.€1,000 for passing the test... after they teach them how to pass the test.
MYTAXI Ireland is owned by a guy in Shankill.

Spot on and some are suggesting the Rules for Radicals book has had several sources of input from many vested interests in the game. The book is real and is spoon-fed to those interested in claiming to be Oirish.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 08:30:38 am
Ill gladly work the country if there is such a shortage of taxis ,but there will be none of this fiver fare business ,they'll pay whats on the meter or walk.country drivers put themselves in that stupid stupid position  position in the first place
That is the problem in the rural towns and villages the pax will only pay a Fiver to go anywhere in the village and the drivers accept it.
And yes DM, they will walk or wait rather than pay the metered fare, I had a job dropping in Carrigaline one night and I got a flag down in the town looking to go to Crosshaven fer a Tenner which is about a 16Euro fare, I refused her Tenner at 3am in the morning and she got out.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on January 24, 2019, 08:55:59 am
FF are now supporting this idea .Election time comming this is a vote winner in down the country .Rideshare was always comming and Metaxi app will cover the work .Now who was it arned about this and was laughed at ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 08:58:26 am
Everything I say is laughed at.............do you care? Robots...you having a laugh you mad conspiracy theorist!

https://www.breakingnews.ie/discover/robots-are-delivering-pizza-and-doughnuts-to-students-at-an-american-university-899571.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/discover/robots-are-delivering-pizza-and-doughnuts-to-students-at-an-american-university-899571.html)
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 24, 2019, 08:58:56 am
Meanwhile, the 'Ruxi' idea was debated at last night's Fine Gael parliamentary party meeting. Dubin TD Colm Brophy was among those who questioned the proposals. He asked whether the service would work if licensed taxi drivers had higher insurance costs than drivers using their own cars.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 09:00:09 am
Anyway, the SDLP and FF are in talks at the mo relating to all-Ireland pacts and all that.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 09:00:53 am
Meanwhile, the 'Ruxi' idea was debated at last night's Fine Gael parliamentary party meeting. Dubin TD Colm Brophy was among those who questioned the proposals. He asked whether the service would work if licensed taxi drivers had higher insurance costs than drivers using their own cars.


Again..........Healy-Raes very quiet at the mo.......
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 24, 2019, 09:02:29 am
What makes me smile about these people is,they would NEVER ask the publican for a discount on the price of their drink,yet they think the taxi driver should give them a discount.the first time a taxi driver agreed to accept a fare for this amount,unfortunately he set a precedent for the rest of his colleagues.I can tell you they would be braking up the wrong tree with me,I would never give a discount,and its not because of the money involved,its just the principle of the thing. The blame does not entirely lie with the drivers though,didnt Ebbs. Kelley,Kearns etc introduce this discounting culture some years ago at the drivers expense
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 09:06:50 am
What makes me smile about these people is,they would NEVER ask the publican for a discount on the price of their drink,yet they think the taxi driver should give them a discount.the first time a taxi driver agreed to accept a fare for this amount,unfortunately he set a precedent for the rest of his colleagues.I can tell you they would be braking up the wrong tree with me,I would never give a discount,and its not because of the money involved,its just the principle of the thing. The blame does not entirely lie with the drivers though,didnt Ebbs. Kelley,Kearns etc introduce this discounting culture some years ago at the drivers expense

About 5 yrs ago I left the sticks for that very reason, Dalyer. I was blacklisted because I would not bend on metering and fares due. I eventually realised that I'd starve if I stayed or become a kept man as the woman had a decent job as a school-teacher. i legged it to the midlands and discovered the same thing happening..........you have a choice...comply or die...........or go back to Dublin.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: stonethecrows on January 24, 2019, 09:09:26 am
Yep. mytaxi (who you prefer to Irish taxi firms) pay new drivers a bonus of c.€1,000 for passing the test... after they teach them how to pass the test.
MYTAXI Ireland is owned by a guy in Shankill.

Do the virgin drivers then have to sign up / stay with MYT for a certain period of time ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 09:11:58 am
That is the rural way of life DM, if you don't do it their way well some other driver will and you will go home with empty pockets.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 24, 2019, 09:14:45 am
Its Illegal not to use the meter,and its even more illegal for the kunts not to pay the fare shown on the meter
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 09:15:33 am
Yep. mytaxi (who you prefer to Irish taxi firms) pay new drivers a bonus of c.€1,000 for passing the test... after they teach them how to pass the test.

Do the virgin drivers then have to sign up / stay with MYT for a certain period of time ?

Once they sign up, they get a 250Euro Bobo per week fer the First Four weeks if they complete 60 jobs per week.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 09:18:30 am
Its Illegal not to use the meter,and its even more illegal for the kunts not to pay the fare shown on the meter
It is illegal not to run the meter, but it is Not illegal to charge less than the metered fare.
The rural drivers made a rod fer their own back and it is gonna be very hard to beak away from it.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 24, 2019, 09:37:50 am
Only way they can change it is by standing together,but it will be the same old story some will stand together,while others will see it as an opportunity to milk the situation. Blame the radio companies who introduced a discounting culture
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on January 24, 2019, 09:44:43 am
In my submission to the review I suggested Dublin,Cork,Galway all taxies should be Wheelchair accessable and everywhere else should be hacks .If you reduce the cost of providing a rural service you can reduce the fares and the driver still makes coin.This industry has changed with apps Firstly it allows control of the work plus it can record who is driving who and where .The upside of that is more security for both passengers and drivers .As you know I have always said we will get Rideshare and Metaxi will have workcapture and control the flow of work .This game is in transition in three or four years you wont be able to make a living unless you are with a dispatch or app and 60 or 70% of work will be CC ,.The Legend that was FDS once said taxidriving is a part time gig If I was a young man with a family and morgage I would be looking for a job on the cards and taxi part time .The writing is on the wall for the taxi business its just most drivers cant read.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 09:59:20 am
I'll go one better........it'll be 100% cc work, John. Any driver rejecting cc payment will be hauled in over the coals.....whether it's a 4pm trip from the Silver Tassie to Loughlinstown or a 4am job from the Clayton to Mayo.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 10:12:47 am
Only way they can change it is by standing together,but it will be the same old story some will stand together,while others will see it as an opportunity to milk the situation. Blame the radio companies who introduced a discounting culture
Ya can't blame the radio companies fer this one DM, It was the rural drivers that let it slip, they should have added on a Euro to the Fiver at every fare increase.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on January 24, 2019, 10:16:07 am
I'll go one better........it'll be 100% cc work, John. Any driver rejecting cc payment will be hauled in over the coals.....whether it's a 4pm trip from the Silver Tassie to Loughlinstown or a 4am job from the Clayton to Mayo.

In time it will be totally cashless Lip but 60/70% will be here in a few years .Sum Up or Metaxi are popular with passengers .Im only a weekend driver Thursday 6 hours Friday 8 hours saturday 8 hours .Sitting at Heuston for an hour on Tuesday for an 8 euro fare dosent interest me .If I could get 3 days on the cards mon to wed id take it just to get out of the house .
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 10:21:08 am
......If I could get 3 days on the cards mon to wed id take it just to get out of the house .

What job would you do John M ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 24, 2019, 10:22:25 am
if the taxis in the country are only charging 5 euro for a run I suppose there will be no mad rush for uber, there wont be any difference in price, the taxis might be cheaper. also how are these old men in rural areas going to use a smart phone to use uber? some of them can barely make a call from a  mobile.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 10:22:39 am
No need to disclose your own affairs.....i'm heading to Monaghan on Sunday to see the Dubs play. She wanted to accompany me so I decided not to do the usual...drive early and park 3 or 4 miles out of the town and walk back and then out again before driving home. We booked a B and B over the border just up the road from Clones. Asked about taxis and reliability etc.........."keyash(cash) or Keyard(Card). Says I, always cash with me.........says she....not many wanting keyards up here for the time beeong, but we've beeong tauld to ask as the drivers are afeard of it beeong reykarded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzWMJZnGScw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzWMJZnGScw)
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: stonethecrows on January 24, 2019, 10:30:16 am
Lip that's a fckn brilllant accent.  rofl
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 10:36:33 am
if the taxis in the country are only charging 5 euro for a run I suppose there will be no mad rush for uber, there wont be any difference in price, the taxis might be cheaper. also how are these old men in rural areas going to use a smart phone to use uber? some of them can barely make a call from a  mobile.
I suppose it will be the same as MyTaxi do it presently with the bar person having access to a Cash only account.

Maybe a few locals might see this as a good way of making a birra grade at the weekend, but give em a few weeks doing our job of driving the drunks home at night and they won't be long changing dere tune !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 24, 2019, 10:48:12 am
this TD reckons this will be used in towns with a population of less than 5000. i know of towns with populations under 5000 where they have any amount of hackneys, taxis and buses so what he is saying is rubbish. he mentions that people will work for uber as a way to make extra money. what about the drivers it will put out of business?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 10:48:22 am
Lip that's a fckn brilllant accent.  rofl

Ah...more Cavan than Monaghan but how and ever. Raging she's coming as she was to go to a religious gathering in Norn Iron but the Derry bomb put her off. Armagh and Monaghan accents are very tricky..........like a Cavan man sitting on the jacks with 3 litres of Kerosene.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 24, 2019, 11:17:38 am
MYTAXI Ireland is owned by a guy in Shankill.

Mytaxi Network Ireland Ltd has one shareholder i.e. Mytaxi Network Ltd, a UK corporation that is ultimately a subsidiary of Intelligent Apps GmbH which is a subsidiary of Moovel GmbH which is a subsidiary Daimler Mobility Services GmbH. However, the upper end of the corporate structure is set to change in the near future when all companies held by Daimler Mobility Services GmbH will be transferred to a new holding company under a 50/50 joint venture between Daimler and BMW which was announced last year, around the same time as mytaxi lost another in a very very very very long line of CEOs with Andrew Pinnington's resignation. Rumour suggests that the new holding company is to be named Jurbey and will be based in Berlin.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 11:26:34 am
Wasn't Pinnington linked to Laura Winkles or Winkless of the future of driving is driverless cars fame? Can't remember her name but she was on the board of a few of these "ones to watch" start-ups in England and America.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 24, 2019, 11:31:12 am
I would jave no problem accepting  cc work,in fact id welcome it.but if it ever becomes the case that drivers cannot make a living because they are not with an app,or dispatcher,this will be because drivers willingly gave up the righe NOT to be aligned.they sold out their colleagues who wished to remain independent in favour of allowing middle mem into the industry
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 24, 2019, 11:33:34 am
Dunno, LL... he was the one that revealed the firm's autonomous vehicle aspirations though, 20% within 10 years was the stated target, if memory serves. They go through so many CEOs it's hard to keep track... Pinnington used to work for Carphone Warehouse, lives near Guilford as it goes...
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 11:33:52 am
this TD reckons this will be used in towns with a population of less than 5000. i know of towns with populations under 5000 where they have any amount of hackneys, taxis and buses so what he is saying is rubbish. he mentions that people will work for uber as a way to make extra money. what about the drivers it will put out of business?
Most likely the insurance companies will insist that they be insured fer Hire and Reward, because they are Hired and are being Rewarded the same as us. And probably that will Kill it off before the starting gates even open. A First time rural uber driver may be looking at at 7K insurance bill with 0% NCD on a Hire and Reward policy.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 11:36:56 am
Dunno, LL... he was the one that revealed the firm's autonomous vehicle aspirations though, 20% within 10 years was the stated target, if memory serves. They go through so many CEOs it's hard to keep track... Pinnington used to work for Carphone Warehouse, lives near Guilford as it goes...

I recall her being listed as some "genius" by a well-known funder of "scientific initiatives". That said, George Dubya secured a pass degree from Yale because of said funding. I do know Pinnington is a Goldman Sachs man........and he has some gaff in Rathmichael.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: vandriver on January 24, 2019, 11:40:06 am
this TD reckons this will be used in towns with a population of less than 5000. i know of towns with populations under 5000 where they have any amount of hackneys, taxis and buses so what he is saying is rubbish. he mentions that people will work for uber as a way to make extra money. what about the drivers it will put out of business?
Most likely the insurance companies will insist that they be insured fer Hire and Reward, because they are Hired and are being Rewarded the same as us. And probably that will Kill it off before the starting gates even open. A First time rural uber driver may be looking at at 7K insurance bill with 0% NCD on a Hire and Reward policy.
The 7 grand is hard enough to pay in Dublin!
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: vandriver on January 24, 2019, 11:41:37 am
this TD reckons this will be used in towns with a population of less than 5000. i know of towns with populations under 5000 where they have any amount of hackneys, taxis and buses so what he is saying is rubbish. he mentions that people will work for uber as a way to make extra money. what about the drivers it will put out of business?
Most likely the insurance companies will insist that they be insured fer Hire and Reward, because they are Hired and are being Rewarded the same as us. And probably that will Kill it off before the starting gates even open. A First time rural uber driver may be looking at at 7K insurance bill with 0% NCD on a Hire and Reward policy.
The 7 grand is hard enough to pay in Dublin!
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 24, 2019, 11:44:53 am
Possible, I guess, LL... but strange that he registered his Surrey address with CRO when he was on the board of Hailo Network Ireland Ltd, subsequently renamed Mytaxi Network Ireland Ltd. To be best of my knowledge he was never based in the Dublin depot... he became CEO of all the subsidiaries that operated under the mytaxi brand when Hail0 was bailed out by Daimler so head office would have been in Moovel's HQ in Germany but I suspect he worked mostly out of the UK depot.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 11:49:41 am
Not familiar enough with fiduciary shenanigans meself........... lol Anyway, Mr Berg is the new Kong. If you've ever a spare 10 mins after a a fare to Bray/Shankill.....check out Rathmichael.....the Bel Air of County Dublin/Wicklow.....never mind Vico Rd or castles in the air a la Enya or Bono. Remember Phil Coulter was sniffing around there before he decided on Greystones.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 11:53:11 am
I would jave no problem accepting  cc work,in fact id welcome it.but if it ever becomes the case that drivers cannot make a living because they are not with an app,or dispatcher,this will be because drivers willingly gave up the righe NOT to be aligned.they sold out their colleagues who wished to remain independent in favour of allowing middle mem into the industry
But it's the middlemen/women who provide the work, on a usual mid week shift fer me, say starting at 8pm unless I want to join the back of a long rank then the only work available is through the MyTaxi app and the work is generally plentiful and I will work it till Midnight or maybe even 1.30am depending on how busy or quiet the town is, after 2am I have little interest but I will turn it on if'n I am out in the Burbs or Sticks after dropping hoping to get something real close. At 4am Cork is a ghost town but yet the app still hops constantly and I work on till usually 6am seldom stopping. Granted it costs me 12% but I do get the PUC and very seldom have to rank.
What you must remember DM is that MyTaxi and all the radio companies have bills to pay too, like staff wages, rent, lecky, Etc..
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 24, 2019, 11:59:00 am
Could you be mixing him up with Colm O'Cuilleanain who is/was also on the board? His address only came up as Dublin 18 on solocheck.ie (pulled from CRO) but a full address in Rathmichael appears on some other registrations, including that of Mytaxi Network France... if memory serves. Pinnington's postcode came up on solocheck.ie - a gaff near Guilford. None of them come up anymore, solocheck.ie have made directors info part of the premium reports now so you have to pay a couple of euros for it... doesn't interest me enough to part with hard earned!
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on January 24, 2019, 12:03:53 pm
......If I could get 3 days on the cards mon to wed id take it just to get out of the house .

What job would you do John M ?

I would consider anything Ken that didnt include hard graft .I had a number lined up Driving a LWB van to Cork on Monday .Belfast Tuesday Galway WEdnesday 120 a day it took as long as it tookno OT or lunch money just 120 a day but someone else got it they done it for 80
#
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 12:04:44 pm
Are they all listed under family names up there, Rats?....as I said, not familiar with the aul fiduciary games....wasn't the house in Gorsehill transferred to some private trust name at some stage?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 24, 2019, 12:05:23 pm
But it's the middlemen/women who provide the work

Only 'cos we gave them the work...
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 24, 2019, 12:12:15 pm
Are they all listed under family names up there, Rats?....as I said, not familiar with the aul fiduciary games....wasn't the house in Gorsehill transferred to some private trust name at some stage?

Not sure what you mean by "up there". Director's names and addresses are always listed or available in CRO reports. I tend to use solocheck.ie where they'd generally give a vague enough area for director's address (e.g. Dublin 18 for O'Cuilleanain), just happened in Pinnington's case it gave his postcode. I think full addresses are given in the reports you can buy from CRO.... and, as mentioned above, solocheck.ie have started charging for even the vague info they generally supply. However, directors aren't necessarily (directly) shareholders e.g. in the case of Mytaxi Network Ireland Ltd there is only one shareholder which is a UK body corporate.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 12:16:35 pm
But it's the middlemen/women who provide the work

Only 'cos we gave them the work...

Spilt Milk !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 12:17:26 pm
Solocheck....ok. Doesn't matter anyway....just asking. My cynicism leads me to think half the gaffs in these areas are owned by private companies.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 24, 2019, 12:27:38 pm
Quite possibly... one doesn't have to own the gaff one resides in... You can probably get that information from Land Registry... but, again, there's probably a fee to be paid.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 12:39:19 pm
......If I could get 3 days on the cards mon to wed id take it just to get out of the house .

What job would you do John M ?

I would consider anything Ken that didnt include hard graft .I had a number lined up Driving a LWB van to Cork on Monday .Belfast Tuesday Galway WEdnesday 120 a day it took as long as it tookno OT or lunch money just 120 a day but someone else got it they done it for 80
#

Wow ! 80 !
I don't think I could ever do any other job, I would be good at training greyhounds but that is much too much like hard graft, the Bookie game after 35 years in it I could never face again, even at that the game has changed so much in the last Ten years, If'n I was interviewed fer a Bookie job and the interviewer asked me; "How much is a Fiver @ 15/8 ?", then I would reply; "It's 5 + 5 + a half + a half + a half which equals 14.38" the interviewer would probably be mystified and say; "No, you type Five Euro at 15/8 in to this machine here" !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 12:42:27 pm
Most likely the insurance companies will insist that they be insured fer Hire and Reward, because they are Hired and are being Rewarded the same as us. And probably that will Kill it off before the starting gates even open. A First time rural uber driver may be looking at at 7K insurance bill with 0% NCD on a Hire and Reward policy.
The 7 grand is hard enough to pay in Dublin!

Unlikely that the insurance companies will do as Mr Daly asks, 7K will be their bill too.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 24, 2019, 12:45:23 pm
Ken I think your the one thats missing the point.if these radio companirs,apps were not in the industry(which you invited them into)  there would not be any long lines of taxis on the ranks.people who wanted a taxi would walk to the rank,or hail in the street,and this would eliminate any need for these middle men
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Octavia1 on January 24, 2019, 12:47:27 pm
I de love a job as a park ranger..... Yu know like squirrel counting to see how many died of squirrel pox this year..... And pullin dead fucks out of the pond....
And chasing pervert flashers with s baseball bat... ::fight... That sort of thing
Ide love that job
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 24, 2019, 12:50:20 pm
Go ouratda ya double jobber
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 24, 2019, 12:57:10 pm
They should just issue a special licence to rural publicans so they can operate as a taxi for their customers and get paid for it.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 24, 2019, 01:04:10 pm
I wonder would the publican accept a fiver for providing such a service ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 01:12:06 pm
Ken I think your the one thats missing the point.if these radio companirs,apps were not in the industry(which you invited them into)  there would not be any long lines of taxis on the ranks.people who wanted a taxi would walk to the rank,or hail in the street,and this would eliminate any need for these middle men
If the Apps and radio companies were not here then the queues on the ranks would be even longer !
Secondly I didn't invite anyone except myself in to this industry.
And Thirdly and we have had this out before people will not leave their home (often in the rain) to hail a cab on the street.
I tried hailing a cab off the street a few months back going in to town to collect me Joe from the Auto-electrician, well dressed as I thought, Shirt with a collar, pants, shoes (not runners) and obviousely sober as going to work, no food, drink or ciggie in hand and Several cabs all with their Roof-light's On all whizzed by me.
These days when I want a cab I use the middle man MyTaxi, I don't care if it costs an extra few quid, I just want a Taxi and know/see where it is rather than standing like a fool on the side of the road watching empty Taxies passing me by.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 01:16:15 pm
I de love a job as a park ranger..... Yu know like squirrel counting to see how many died of squirrel pox this year..... And pullin dead fucks out of the pond....
And chasing pervert flashers with s baseball bat... ::fight... That sort of thing
Ide love that job
How about Clamping Octy ?
I think you would make a good Clamper !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 01:23:13 pm
They should just issue a special licence to rural publicans so they can operate as a taxi for their customers and get paid for it.
That was the norm fer many years in rural Ireland, the publicans often drove their customers home, but it was the customers themselves who put Paid to that by vomiting, defecating and urinating in the car and refusing to part with any cash fer being driven home. It still goes on but to a much lesser extent than it used to be.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 24, 2019, 01:24:37 pm
I have rarely seen this 5 euro fare demand to be honest. You might have a customer looking for it once every couple of months. Especially at night, you pay the metered fare or get out.

Did the drink link busses they were talking about only a few months ago start? Why dont they give that a go first? I agree on the insurance issue. They have been robbing all drivers the l ast few years, why would they allow uber drivers to have low premiums. They wont.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 24, 2019, 01:36:31 pm
Uber type apps take big commissions up to 25% of the fare.I don't think anyone is dumb enough to drive their own car into the ground for less than 4 quid a job after commission.

This is just about starting a debate that will end up making the taxi test even easier so that more drivers can get through the system.Some of the culchie tests are much more difficult to pass than before.Chances are the only ones getting excited about this stuff is us.

Slightly off topic but there are new drivers who passed their taxi test three months ago still waiting for their PSV badges.The Garda vetting very slow causing major backlogs so the numbers coming though the system are bigger than we realise.Like someone.. used to say it's not the illegal fukkers we need to worry about it's the legal ones.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 24, 2019, 01:41:22 pm
Uber commission is 12% in Ireland, same as mytaxi.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 24, 2019, 01:42:42 pm
Backlog was 6 months i heard. Ah sure..........if you're Oirish come into the parlour......
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 24, 2019, 01:42:51 pm
Yeah I know RC I was referring to their private hire or limo setups.If your overheads are fukall they'll charge what they feel is appropriate.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 01:43:30 pm
I have rarely seen this 5 euro fare demand to be honest. You might have a customer looking for it once every couple of months. Especially at night, you pay the metered fare or get out.

Did the drink link busses they were talking about only a few months ago start? Why dont they give that a go first? I agree on the insurance issue. They have been robbing all drivers the l ast few years, why would they allow uber drivers to have low premiums. They wont.

Bollocks on Set Prices !
I know if'n I get a tap on the window asking; "How much to Ballincollig or Carrigaline ?",
then you can be shit sure it's the back arse of the town or even further that they are going to.

The 24 hour bus service in Cork started in mid January serving Cork South in Carrigaline
and Cork West in Ballincollig.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: stonethecrows on January 24, 2019, 01:46:19 pm
Ah fuck everybody outside Dublin on to an Island and let them drink and drive and do what the fcuk they want.

No need for taxis and we wont be screwed up here in the capital.

Up the Dubs
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 24, 2019, 01:54:14 pm
Yeah I know RC I was referring to their private hire or limo setups.If your overheads are fukall they'll charge what they feel is appropriate.
Do they charge the Limo's 25% commission ?
I'm feeling blessed with me 12% ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 24, 2019, 01:59:37 pm
Really blessed? no wonder yer not a bookie anymore....yer maths is fukking shite.No offence BTW...Uber exec in the Uk pay 25%.I think the limos here pay a bit more than taxis or at least they used to.

Uber private hire drivers in the Uk which is basically a hack pay 20% AFAIK.

Make no mistake these will most likely be some form of hackney if they ever materialise.Off the meter is what the boggers love.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 24, 2019, 02:00:55 pm
This is just about starting a debate that will end up making the taxi test even easier so that more drivers can get through the system.Some of the culchie tests are much more difficult to pass than before.




it doesn't matter if they reduce the test to get 20% of it correct and pass. no point getting a licence if insurance is 7000-12000 euro for your first year.

insurance cost is the barrier to new entrants not the difficult taxi test.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 24, 2019, 02:04:38 pm
No you're mistaken 1990...you can get on a renter's policy for 3k.Bloke I went ot school with is waiting on his ID cards and he's gonna rent a plate on a block policy with his own saloon.3k isnt a whole lot.

Owner drivers are the ones getting fleeced first time.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 24, 2019, 02:14:38 pm
i remember when i started, i was put in touch with some guy,he wanted me to rent a plate from him but the way it worked i would have had to put my car into his name, as in he owned my car, seeing as i didn't even know him i obviously declined the offer.

Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Shallowhal on January 24, 2019, 02:18:06 pm
i remember when i started, i was put in touch with some guy,he wanted me to rent a plate from him but the way it worked i would have had to put my car into his name, as in he owned my car, seeing as i didn't even know him i obviously declined the offer.

An African Prince? rofl
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 24, 2019, 02:18:29 pm
That's the setup I think...funny thing is the bloke he's renting from I also went to school with so they'd know each other well.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 24, 2019, 02:23:47 pm
i should have asked him did he need my house in his name also.  lol

it is probably 100% legit but you would feel like some ejit if your car was sold on ya because you signed it into some guys name you don't know.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 24, 2019, 02:25:07 pm
As long as ya have all the keys you'd be safe enough.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 24, 2019, 02:27:21 pm
You put the car in his name but he signs the VRC transfer bit undated and hands it to you as soon as it comes back from Shannon. It was commonplace before entry liberalisation. As MfH notes, once you have the keys...
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 24, 2019, 02:32:04 pm
if i crashed then would his insurance increase?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 24, 2019, 02:36:20 pm
No. He is specifically excluded as a driver on the insurance cert/policy.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 24, 2019, 03:26:39 pm
Not a bad business id say.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 24, 2019, 03:29:01 pm
It's not bad now... the lads working for mytaxi are making a decent enough living for a zero skills job... but what about during the last recession and during the next recession?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: silverbullet on January 24, 2019, 07:21:52 pm
No you're mistaken 1990...you can get on a renter's policy for 3k.Bloke I went ot school with is waiting on his ID cards and he's gonna rent a plate on a block policy with his own saloon.3k isnt a whole lot.

Owner drivers are the ones getting fleeced first time.
Brendan Spearings Agent just told a new Polish driver that the €370 a week he's being charged will stand to him when he goes for his own insurance.
I said to the Polish guy " Good luck with that " 8)
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: vandriver on January 24, 2019, 08:47:37 pm
That's 50 a week more than I'm paying,and I have a one car policy with me as the only named driver.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: silverbullet on January 24, 2019, 09:23:03 pm
That's 50 a week more than I'm paying,and I have a one car policy with me as the only named driver.
Is the insurance in your own name, and are you paying on the drip?
If so the car hire should be €150 or less.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on January 24, 2019, 09:44:59 pm
i remember when i started, i was put in touch with some guy,he wanted me to rent a plate from him but the way it worked i would have had to put my car into his name, as in he owned my car, seeing as i didn't even know him i obviously declined the offer.
SOP pre de reg. You transfer the car and get him to sign the transfer back to you . You hold the VRT cert.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 30, 2019, 06:48:48 pm
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/taoiseach-open-to-liberalising-taxi-and-hackney-licensing-rules-901154.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/taoiseach-open-to-liberalising-taxi-and-hackney-licensing-rules-901154.html)


as one poster said here last week, they might just make the test for rural areas easier to pass or get rid of the test as the NTA were thinking about not that long ago.

Mr Healy Rae later told the Irish Examiner he does not believe liberalising taxi and hackney license rules will address the concerns of rural Ireland.

i have to agree with Mr Rae though, uber or easier tests wont solve the issue of people in rural areas getting to and from the pub at night.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 30, 2019, 06:54:36 pm
mytaxi and easier tests might?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 30, 2019, 06:58:32 pm
that wouldn't really bother me, But I don't think there are many people out there wishing they could become taxi drivers though and the only thing stopping them is a difficult test.

I would despise anyone working for Uber in their private car though, making a few extra quid on top of their other job while taking from us full time drivers.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 30, 2019, 07:18:05 pm
mytaxi would be far more likely to employ private motorists if regulation permits simply because it already controls the customer base.... that OK with you?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 30, 2019, 07:22:17 pm
I suppose the whole idea doesn't bother me as long as they keep out of towns and cities. let them work in the arse hole of nowhere if they like.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 30, 2019, 07:25:46 pm
mytaxi will let them work anywhere. Hundreds of drivers with licences for rural counties come up to Dublin to work for mytaxi every night and it has offered me work outside of the counties covered by my SPSV driving licence. Uber insists that it's drivers are licensed for the counties they work... you still want mytaxi rideshare instead of Uber rideshare?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 30, 2019, 07:31:21 pm
well if that is the case, these new drivers will just work the towns and cities like the rest of us, so that wont solve this supposed problem of people in rural areas stranded in their houses not able to get to the pub.


if it is uber who get the green light im sure it will be as bad for us as your mytaxi idea. uber wont care if they stick to the rural areas or not, they will probably prefer them to work the towns and cities.

you could get a licence for some rural village in Sligo but still work in Sligo town that has a population of 20,000
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 30, 2019, 07:35:29 pm
Currently Uber restricts it's drivers to the areas covered by their SPSV driving licences, mytaxi doesn't. Currently mytaxi allocates taxi fares to limousine drivers operating clapped out shiteboxes, Uber doesn't. More importantly mytaxi controls our customers, Uber doesn't.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 30, 2019, 07:39:57 pm
if mytaxi hire people in their private cars to operate willy-nilly around any town or city they like, all hell will break loose you would imagine with all taxi drivers and companies in the country.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on January 30, 2019, 07:53:11 pm
if mytaxi hire people in their private cars to operate willy-nilly around any town or city they like, all hell will break loose you would imagine with all taxi drivers and companies in the country.

Will you write a strongly worded letter or what ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 31, 2019, 07:20:48 am
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/taoiseach-open-to-liberalising-taxi-and-hackney-licensing-rules-901154.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/taoiseach-open-to-liberalising-taxi-and-hackney-licensing-rules-901154.html)


as one poster said here last week, they might just make the test for rural areas easier to pass or get rid of the test as the NTA were thinking about not that long ago.

Mr Healy Rae later told the Irish Examiner he does not believe liberalising taxi and hackney license rules will address the concerns of rural Ireland.

i have to agree with Mr Rae though, uber or easier tests wont solve the issue of people in rural areas getting to and from the pub at night.


I'm always edgy when the Healy-Raes have been quiet.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 31, 2019, 07:50:31 am
I suppose the whole idea doesn't bother me as long as they keep out of towns and cities. let them work in the arse hole of nowhere if they like.
As regards Rural Rideshare or Rideshare in any form;
I remember once doing a bit of DIY work on a betting office that we were refurbishing, I was attempting unsuccessfully to drill a big hole in a wall with a large drill-bit, the old foreman builder on site walked over to me and said; "Drill a small hole First and then widen it !".

NO TO RIDESHARE IN ANY FORM !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 31, 2019, 08:33:44 am
If Rideshare get's in here in any form, be it Uber or MyTaxi on Rural runs ONLY, then it won't be long before they expand to the cities after coming up with some mythical figures of how popular the service is and of all the great feedback they have recieved.

The truth is nobody wants to work Rural Ireland, why would they?  At probably Two Fiver fares per night and Six at the weekends and all Pissed off their heads and complaining about the meter charge and the PUC.
MyTaxi have a licence to work Rural Ireland today if they wished to do so using SPSV drivers, but they don't and why not ?
Because there is no Coin in it !
The only reason Uber or MyTaxi would take on Rural Rideshare would be to get a foothold looking to expand to the cities.

If Rideshare gets a foothold in Eire, then we can all bend over and Kiss our Arse's Good-Bye !

I have never been 'On Strike' in my life and seldom complain against the Taxi regulations because I usually see the 'Silver Lining' in the regulations and see them to be of my benefit, but fer Rideshare I WILL STRIKE !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 31, 2019, 08:46:19 am
Any watered down hackney service will be just as bad if not worse than rideshare. The vehicle age and size restrictions will be loosened up and the test will be made easier. Remember all them extra taxis during the bad years? Well that's what happens when the entry rules are relaxed and every mong can get a licence. It won't be illegal rideshare it will be 100% legal hackneys which are much worse as they'll be full-time drivers probably sponsored by the shitebags in Mytaxi.

The insurance premiums will start to decrease as more cars get on the road. Back in 2009, my insurance was 1400(I think) for a new driver policy but there was fukall work and taxis everywhere.

Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 31, 2019, 08:46:53 am
"Mr Healy Rae later told the Irish Examiner he does not believe liberalising taxi and hackney license rules will address the concerns of rural Ireland."

So what exactly is it that Mr Healy Rea wants, a Six Pint limit or maybe 7 or even 8 !
Or a 30 minute Bus service sitting at the door of every Rural pub in Eire ?

As FDS would say; "Tell us FFS !"
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on January 31, 2019, 09:04:48 am
Any watered down hackney service will be just as bad if not worse than rideshare.......
I totally disagree MFH, I have no problem with the Hacks (watered down or not) and I have no problem with the Limo's. But Rideshare with no PSV required is a different kettle of fish all together. Every kount in the country will be out working it part-time on reduced fares and handing over 20% commission, they won't care as long as they get a wedge to bring home fer part-time work, the App provider won't give a Monkee's either as long as they get their 20%, the big Loser's will be the Full Time Taxi Drivers.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 31, 2019, 10:05:31 am
We're all driving for money Belker. We're all following the blue line to the pickup point.I don't see how Rideshare is any worse than a badly regulated hackney or taxi service.Sure there a loadsa taxis who dont work the streets anymore. Most of us paid very little for our plates.Thanks to our app dependence we have more in common with the Rideshare driver than ever before.

As far as 20% goes it won't be long before taxis are paying that commission the way things are going.The gimps in the Mytaxi must be laughing at the taxi gobshites willing to ruin their taxis with free advertising.Ya do realise that the Hailo app was originally a bad copy of the Uber app?It wasn't a brand new idea.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 31, 2019, 10:09:56 am
if there is ever a suggestion of rideshare being permitted,this would be an opportunity for taxi drivers to really test their resolve by taking to the streets until such threat was diminished.but based on previous experience of taxi drivers willing to engage in such action,I would not be hopeful,considering while on one occasion,while protesting in Dublin,our colleagues were driving down the other side of the street with a fare in the back of their cars.the apps,and radio companies are largely responsible for bringing a situation about where men are opposing each other,instead of standing together and telling them to shove their radios where the sun dont shine
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 31, 2019, 10:15:23 am
Some taxi drivers will be thinking hacks are better than rideshare not realising that the hacks are gonna be competing for taxi work via the apps.

There's a taxi driver Facebook page I used to look in on and the lads were actively encouraging some bloke to buy a limo and work the Mytaxi app rather than buy a taxi. Bizzare stuff.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 31, 2019, 10:16:58 am
It shouldnt be called uber ride share, sharing a ride is some guy driving from birr to nenagh and picking up someone else who shares the cost of the journey. Not someone doing 10 trips a night, that is operating as a taxi. I will strike as well, every taxi should drive to dublin city and clog up the streets for days if they try to bring uber in.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 31, 2019, 10:21:03 am
There will be no rideshare like other countries have...they'll be watered down 100% legal hacks competing for taxi work via the apps.

In London all them Uber drivers taking work from the black cabs are all legal hacks.There is no rideshare in the Uk anywhere but Uber is running rings around the black cabs.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 31, 2019, 10:49:22 am
The cabbies in London have only themselves to blame...........arrogant, churlish and defiant. When the EDL penetrated their thin veneer.......they were on a hiding to nothing. They remind me of the aul-timers in Dublin back in the bad days..........."Where you going before I decide to take you anywhere". Sometimes it pays to listen and watch...........the "brooming" days are long gone.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 31, 2019, 10:55:34 am
Things like that happen only because the indigenous taxi drivers allow it to happen.in the case of rideshare,your battle is with the public who choose to engage in taking your livelihoods,and that would require direct militant action to prevent it.in the case of scumbag radio companies who manipulate you in a different,more devious way you dont seem to have a problem.remember unity is our strength you do not have to be aligned to these people.TAKE BACK CONTROL OF YOUR INDUSTRY
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 31, 2019, 11:00:39 am
I believe it was the indigenous drivers who told them what was about to happen here in Ireland pre-dereg....some of whom are active on this site, Dalyer. Anyways....it really is nobody's industry.........open season.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 31, 2019, 11:14:32 am
In the early 90's from Heathrow to London city centre was anything from 25 to 35 notes depending on the driver. Not one of them had or needed a radio. They had the whole kip under wraps and only a certain percentile was ever allowed in........borough badges were no problem but the London Knowledge badges-for the entire city...................fagerr abourra it mate. Declared incomes of 10 k p.a. were accepted back then until a certain crowd started investing heavily in M.P.V.'s and encouraging their drivers to declare incomes of 30k p.a. and above..........that's manipulation and a crushing blow to credibility. Battles are won and lost............wars go on forever.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 31, 2019, 11:18:33 am
Dont quite agree lippy,I believe the Irish taxi industry can offer a decent standard of living to people who would be committed to it.im fed up with people running it down ,saying things like ah its only a part time gig,and generally breakink the rules,and not treating the job with any degree of seriousness.for many people,this job offers a livelihood.but its a livelihood,which has to compete with being constantly ridiculed by other fellow drivers,the general public,etc .there is little or no level of professionalism displayed by some drivers,the authorities dont really seem to care about illegallity within the industry,the NTA are only interested in bringing in more drivers to an already over populated industry,illegal,ranks everywhere,no camaraderie among drivers,competing with illegal drivers on a daily/ nightly bases,I say MAKE THE AUTHORITIES CARE withold fees until they assist us in trying to make the industry professional
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 31, 2019, 11:18:39 am
Does anyone know how much someone would pay in insurance in their first year driving as a  rural area hackney?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 31, 2019, 11:22:41 am
anyone any idea what way the NTA will go with this idea of uber ride share?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 31, 2019, 11:26:08 am
Its not a question of what way the NTA will go,its more a question of if the drivers have the balls to face down this challenge and block the streets,and the ports till its no longer an issue.I certainly am prepared for such action
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 31, 2019, 11:27:24 am
Dont quite agree lippy,I believe the Irish taxi industry can offer a decent standard of living to people who would be committed to it.im fed up with people running it down ,saying things like ah its only a part time gig,and generally breakink the rules,and not treating the job with any degree of seriousness.for many people,this job offers a livelihood.but its a livelihood,which has to compete with being constantly ridiculed by other fellow drivers,the general public,etc .there is little or no level of professionalism displayed by some drivers,the authorities dont really seem to care about illegallity within the industry,the NTA are only interested in bringing in more drivers to an already over populated industry,illegal,ranks everywhere,no camaraderie among drivers,competing with illegal drivers on a daily/ nightly bases,I say MAKE THE AUTHORITIES CARE withold fees until they assist us in trying to make the industry professional

I'm not running it down, Dalyer.........it is a well-known fact that working class men and women do not and never did stick together. Ask any man or woman who tried to challenge the status quo within a union. Never personalise any of this, Dalyer. Group dynamics and role-playing are 2 different things. The only camaraderie I ever saw amongst folks was when they were gathered together on Hill 16 shouting abuse at a ref........they leave and they go their separate ways and laugh at the concept that they ever thought they were like the raving lunatic beside them in the first place.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 31, 2019, 11:27:47 am
So far there's been no challenge.Roys kip used to be full of these threads that went nowhere.Just posters saying they hate rideshare but don't care about hackneys taking their work.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 31, 2019, 11:29:20 am
Why should they go anywhere, Merc? it's a safety valve for headers.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 31, 2019, 11:33:16 am
There are posters who are just ignoring facts and putting up their own version of reality.Shite threads like this are more likely to misinform drivers than creating any unity.Nowhere has anyone else mentioned Rideshare.Just because Uber put their money in some TDs pocket doesn't bring it any closer to reality.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on January 31, 2019, 11:37:05 am
Lippy my comments are not directed at you personally,they are just general observations on my part about the industry generally
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on January 31, 2019, 11:37:34 am
What I was saying is what would be in the Nta's best interest? Are they making more money from us than they would if licencing was "liberalised"
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 31, 2019, 11:38:43 am
No idea what Uber are at, Merc..........just know that i'm a little guy hoping to see old age. Start another thread if you know what's going on............I admit I don't have a scooby. Unity..............? You are having a laugh.........Mytaxi believe in it?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 31, 2019, 11:40:21 am
Lippy my comments are not directed at you personally,they are just general observations on my part about the industry generally

I know that. Roy's kip was a bit scatty at times, but it had many contributors.............not so many hurlers on the ditch..........guests everywhere here. You have to play the game, Dalyer.............let on.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 31, 2019, 11:47:52 am
Dunno how yis can get from a TD mentioning a service similar to Uber rideshare to rideshare actually happening in any form.Do yis realise how many shite ideas are spewed in the dail every day? Deliberate misinformation IMO.Dunno how yis get a kick out of watching taxi drivers fret over Rideshare when we have bigger fish fingers to fry.Reminds me of all the doom and gloom threads on Roys kip just as the business clearly was picking up.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on January 31, 2019, 11:58:05 am
When the crops start to grow in one field it's best to burn the one beside it to prepare the soil....my local Chinese take-away's motto. ;)
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 31, 2019, 01:06:18 pm
G'way outta dat, Ken. I'm sure you've read the mission statement of the firm you advertise FOC... but let me jog your memory:

With our mobility services we simplify urban mobility and encourage people to switch to shared mobility. Together with our partners we are shaping the future of urban mobility. (https://www.moovel.com/en/about/mission-vision (https://www.moovel.com/en/about/mission-vision))
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 01, 2019, 06:44:13 pm
https://www.rte.ie/radio1/today-with-sean-o-rourke/programmes/2019/0131/1026696-today-with-sean-orourke-thursday-31-january-2019/?clipid=103031518 (https://www.rte.ie/radio1/today-with-sean-o-rourke/programmes/2019/0131/1026696-today-with-sean-orourke-thursday-31-january-2019/?clipid=103031518)


scroll down to hear the discussion regarding Uber.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 02, 2019, 12:27:02 pm
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/minister-hails-ruxi-proposal-as-a-rural-isolation-solution/ (https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/minister-hails-ruxi-proposal-as-a-rural-isolation-solution/)
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 02, 2019, 12:51:59 pm
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/spanish-taxi-drivers-take-to-streets-in-uber-protest-1.3768145 (https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/spanish-taxi-drivers-take-to-streets-in-uber-protest-1.3768145)
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 02, 2019, 01:27:41 pm
Amazing how poorly informed they are. "Uber-style" would be fully licensed taxis that meet Uber's age/size criteria. I don't think any of us have a problem with that. However, I suspect what they actually want is more mytaxi-style i.e. any sort of clapped out shitebox with a driver... although mytaxi does aim to phase out the driver bit with 20% of it's taxi fleet being operated by autonomous vehicles within 6.53 years.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 02, 2019, 01:32:34 pm
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/spanish-taxi-drivers-take-to-streets-in-uber-protest-1.3768145 (https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/spanish-taxi-drivers-take-to-streets-in-uber-protest-1.3768145)

Uber's fleet in Spain is licensed, like our hackneys/limousines that work for mytaxi. Coverage could be better but it is handy as you put your destination in the app, avoiding trying to explain where you're going to a driver that struggles with English.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 02, 2019, 01:55:03 pm
just say this politician gets his way and this stupid idea gets the green light. this is what will happen, you get the same driver a few times(this will happen as they will be operating in rural areas), you get on well with him/her. then you just ring him/her direct for your lift to town, no meter used, cash in hand, thanks very much, mytaxi and uber wont do so well then will they?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 02, 2019, 02:00:40 pm
Depends how much that happens. Drivers boxing off work is probably an issue with taxis too, maybe more so in recessionary times. However, mytaxi has still managed to at least double the freight drivers used to pay Irish dispatch firms so it can probably afford a little seepage here and there. Of course, both Uber and mytaxi use their systems to encourage rider loyalty using simplified card payment processes and such like.

I don't think it's about Rural service, anyway. There's plenty of reasons that the local pub is no longer the centre of the universe for culchies, only one of those reasons is transport. From mytaxi's perspective it's all about getting more drivers in more cars to cover the work up above in Dublin and down below in Cork.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 02, 2019, 02:05:51 pm
the politician who was talking on the sean o rourke show on rte radio the other day, said they want to make it so that publicans dont have to pay vrt on their cars, more rural link busses at night, uber to be introduced, and some other idea. is he going to leave anyone for us to drop home?

do we as taxi drivers have anyone in these talks talking up for our interests?

its obvious that once taxis protest uber in other countries they back off easily enough and pull out of countries, they don't seem to like a fight.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 02, 2019, 02:10:04 pm
Drivers have loads of unions. All seem to support the dispatch firms' desire to increase the fleet, however that can be done. Can't see taxi drivers here putting up any sort of fight, a lot of them advertise mytaxi and most of us work for mytaxi.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 02, 2019, 02:19:31 pm
a good thing for us is this jim daly doesn't seem to be the brightest of guys. even though he talks like he has just come up with a cure for cancer with this great idea about uber. the reason a lot of people stayed at home during christmas was because they were worried they would fail a breathalyzer the next morning, so getting an uber will be the same as if they got a taxi the night before.

there is any amount of taxis and hackneys in most rural areas, plus illegal taxis.

Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 02, 2019, 02:25:03 pm
He might have the capacity to learn... what happens when he finds out that mytaxi already uses clapped out shiteboxes masquerading as limousines to cover taxi fares up above in Dublin... what happens when he finds out that mytaxi dispatches any driver to any area regardless of licences held... will he still want an "Uber-style" fleet of fully licensed taxis restricted to drivers' licensed areas?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 02, 2019, 02:31:00 pm
is there any enforcement by the NTA of say a meath taxi operating in dublin through mytaxi?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 02, 2019, 02:33:10 pm
No, it's not against the regulations so there's nothing to enforce.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Shallowhal on February 02, 2019, 02:39:05 pm
is there any enforcement by the NTA of say a meath taxi operating in dublin through mytaxi?

I know you're asking a serious question...but i'll admit i did have a giggle....enforcement?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 02, 2019, 02:41:48 pm
The real Irony is that you'll see drivers who complained about and campaigned against drivers coming up from the bog to work Dublin happily advertising mytaxi FOC.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 02, 2019, 03:10:58 pm
You would wonder why there is no enforcement, wouldn't the nta make more money if they enforced rules better. 
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 02, 2019, 03:13:14 pm
They can only enforce rules that exist. The area on your SPSVDL only applies to where you may ply or stand for hire, there is no restriction on radio/app jobs.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 02, 2019, 03:15:31 pm
That is a crazy situation. How are these taxi unions not earning their money by doing something about this?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 02, 2019, 04:34:40 pm
Sure there is loads of boggers coming to work in Dublin at the weekends,the NTA know this,but do they give a fukk ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 02, 2019, 05:05:00 pm
Apparently the boggers are not breaking any laws by doing this. The nta should have sorted this problem ages ago. It might also solve this supposed problem of culchies going insane sitting at home because they cant get to the pub.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: SClass on February 02, 2019, 06:44:58 pm
Apparently the boggers are not breaking any laws by doing this. The nta should have sorted this problem ages ago. It might also solve this supposed problem of culchies going insane sitting at home because they cant get to the pub.



I've said this a long time ago,
No one knows how many taxis work Dublin,
 Cunt Kathleen Doyle fucked it up
 Making our licence and national licence
 The area stickers was an afterthought when she realised she had fucked it up.
 Our old roofies had the country on it,
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 02, 2019, 06:59:39 pm
Taxi990 my understanding of it is,that a taxi can only work the area,for which it is licenced to do so.now I also understand that a lot of blaxies have multiple areas stickers without having compketed the knowledge test for the additional areas because they claimed they were being raceionally abused,and were therefore handed the licences
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 02, 2019, 07:01:37 pm
Many of the posters on here don't live in Dublin but work the city.If all the outsiders were barred there would be no taxis in town.And if we all had to sit the new Dublin exam most of us would fail first time around.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 02, 2019, 08:06:43 pm
I know its a pretty lawless industry Dalymount and the NTA are laid back to say the least but I doubt they gave area stickers to foreigners because of the reason you gave. its like that old myth about foreigners leaving prams at bus stops as the state will just buy them a new one or the one about foreigners only having to get 40% correct to pass the taxi entry test.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 10:48:14 am
if there is ever a suggestion of rideshare being permitted,this would be an opportunity for taxi drivers to really test their resolve by taking to the streets until such threat was diminished.but based on previous experience of taxi drivers willing to engage in such action,I would not be hopeful,considering while on one occasion,while protesting in Dublin,our colleagues were driving down the other side of the street with a fare in the back of their cars..........
And what was it ye were protesting about DM ?, increased insurance which put a lot of part-timers out of the game and increased your annual profits by a lot more than the increase of your annual insurance ? Or was it the door decals which again did exactly the same ? Or was it over the 9 Fookin Euro charge over the county stickers ? Maybe it was the 10 year rule ? which today is actually showing a half decent fleet of taxies on the street fer the First time ever !
All ridiculous protests by drivers who had Fook all to do and All Fookin day to do it !

Rideshare (without a proper 'Hire or Reward' insurance policy) is our only imminent enemy, all the rest is Horseshit.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 11:08:39 am
G'way outta dat, Ken. I'm sure you've read the mission statement of the firm you advertise FOC.......
Not quite FOC, I don't do FOC, fer my advertising on my work vehicle I get a time preference on instant hails, 8 cent off per liter, half price car washes and a Ton Bobo fer starting up. FOC in the business game has never been in my vocabulary !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 11:12:23 am
anyone any idea what way the NTA will go with this idea of uber ride share?
Nobody knows !
It might be Uber 'Brown envelopes' all round or our politicians might stick to their guns with the;
"You need a PSV licence to drive fer Hire or Reward in Eire".
It's anyone's guess !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 03, 2019, 11:50:37 am
Why do drivers worry about sich things when all we have to do is strike french style. The drivers in Madrid are on strike for the same reason NO FUKKING UBER fair play to them.I wonder would Irish drivers do likewise,or would it be the same as always NO FUKING BALLS
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 03, 2019, 11:53:54 am
its a cut throat industry, some taxi drivers would sell their granny for a 5 euro fare. every taxi/hackney driver should write a letter to the NTA stating that we oppose any ride share being introduced and will strike if it comes in.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 12:08:51 pm
Why do drivers worry about sich things when all we have to do is strike french style. The drivers in Madrid are on strike for the same reason NO FUKKING UBER fair play to them.I wonder would Irish drivers do likewise,or would it be the same as always NO FUKING BALLS
I never went on strike before or ever even protested because I never felt the reason to strike or protest as posted above (reply number 202), but if'n Rideshare arrives on the agenda then expect the real taxi drivers to show their faces, not like the usual gobshites who protested over the last fare increase and the 9Euro area stickers any other thing thay could think of just to pass off the day.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 12:16:57 pm
its a cut throat industry, some taxi drivers would sell their granny for a 5 euro fare. every taxi/hackney driver should write a letter to the NTA stating that we oppose any ride share being introduced and will strike if it comes in.
Good idea in theory 1990, but that won't ever happen, however I do expect a good turn-out at the picket lines if'n Rideshare ever gets close to being introduced in to Eire, most lads (myself included) are lazy bollick's, but fer Rideshare, most have copped on that this is an End-Gamer fer us.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 03, 2019, 12:27:30 pm
Anyone i have talked to thinks there isn't a hope of uber ride share coming in, a lot of passengers have brought up the issue with me over the last week and they all said its a stupid idea and transport is not the reason rural pubs are finding it hard to get punters in the doors.

Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 12:40:46 pm
Sorry to disagree with you 1990, but Rideshare is a coming, it might not be this year or next and most hopefully I will not see it in my lifetime, but it's a coming and the 'Brown envelopes' always win. We can fight it as long as the good fight lasts, but we will Lose in the end, just the same as autonomous cabs, they are a coming too. Hopefully I will be pushing up daisey's by those dates and I will fight hard against both to suspend them, but that is all we will be doing, suspending the inevitable !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 03, 2019, 12:41:28 pm
Yis are getting distracted and most likely will get sucker punched..if Ross announced tomorrow that they were easing the taxi tests and reissuing saloon plates yis would all be like well at least it's not rideshare, we're gonna be alright.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 12:46:11 pm
Yis are getting distracted and most likely will get sucker punched..if Ross announced tomorrow that they were easing the taxi tests and reissuing saloon plates yis would all be like well at least it's not rideshare, we're gonna be alright.
So what ?  Their starting insurance premium would be 7K, not too many gonna be taking that on,
on top of their car loan or rental agreement ??

It might take a few WAT's off the road, moving to saloon, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 03, 2019, 12:50:35 pm
even if uber ride share ever comes in, they pull out of countries once they don't get exactly what they want so as long as we protest them we can keep them out or get them banned if they come in.

i honestly wouldn't be worried if they made the test easier and allowed saloons again, insurance costs and dealing with drunks and culchies fighting with you over the fare is not that appealing to most people, most people would rather sleep on the streets than drive a taxi.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 03, 2019, 01:02:21 pm
Insurance won't always be a problem.The more cars that trickle into the fleet the lower the premiums will go.

I already posted you can rent a slaoon plate and go on a block policy for 3k a year.That's only a few months commission for a busy Mytaxi driver.Thinking you're gonna be saved by expensive premiums isn't very wise.Like I said Rideshare is just a distraction.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 03, 2019, 01:09:06 pm
insurance will be a problem until they start sending fraudsters to prison for setting up car accidents, taxis are targeted in these rear ending accidents most and that is why insurance companies don't want to insure anyone with no experience driving a taxi. nothing is been done about this problem and it is going on now for a few years.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 03, 2019, 01:12:50 pm
It's just maths...we have nearly half the number of drivers since ten years ago.So even with the same number of passenger journeys the remaining drivers need to pay more.

Statistically, a new driver is gonna work more hours so they get hammered more.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 01:15:02 pm
......I already posted you can rent a slaoon plate and go on a block policy for 3k a year.That's only a few months commission for a busy Mytaxi driver.......
Please post a link of where you can rent a Taxi saloon plate with insurance fer 3K a year MFH ?
Because if that is true then I'm selling me Joe and taking that offer !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 03, 2019, 01:18:30 pm
Yer taxi is worthless Belker but the plate rental is extra on top of the 3k.Plenty of renters up in Dublin offering that deal.Its not your own policy but it's cheaper so the renter lads don't complain.

It's literally just the plate, no vehicle.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 01:22:59 pm
It's just maths...we have nearly half the number of drivers since ten years ago.So even with the same number of passenger journeys the remaining drivers need to pay more.

Statistically, a new driver is gonna work more hours so they get hammered more.

Jeez MFH, Talk about plucking figures outta your hole !
HALF ! Even a Quarter less would be an exaggeration !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 03, 2019, 01:29:48 pm
Rc will tell ya in more detail hopefully.PSV licence holders dropped from 40k to 25k (approx) and licenced vehicles dropped from 22000 to 11/12000 I think.I haven't exact numbers but they fell by more than you realise.Why do ya think you're so busy?Because you're an amazing driver?

Just checked the NTA stats bulletin and we've lost about 7000 Spsvs since 2008.That includes hacks and limos I think.27000+ to 20000.

Also just checked and we actually went from 47000 to 26000 Spsv licence holders.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 01:34:18 pm
Yer taxi is worthless Belker but the plate rental is extra on top of the 3k.Plenty of renters up in Dublin offering that deal.Its not your own policy but it's cheaper so the renter lads don't complain.

It's literally just the plate, no vehicle.

So ya get the plate rented + insurance fer 3K and then ya buy a Joe (starting out minimum 3 years old Joe) circa 18K and transfer your Joe in to some one else's name who you don't know.
And fer your 20K n odd you seemingly own a car registered to someone else on his insurance ?

Sorry, but that just ain't doing it fer me !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 03, 2019, 01:36:34 pm
The 3 year thing doesn't apply to exsisting plates anymore Belker.As long as its under ten you're good to go.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 03, 2019, 02:08:55 pm
I wish the NTA would ban renting altogether
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 03, 2019, 02:17:15 pm
They might just lift the temporary moratorium on the issue of saloon hackney licences but, then again, they might not. In fact, rumour suggests they are considering abolishing hackney licences and giving all the filthy stinking hackney drivers free taxi plates and grants to buy meter, printers, stickers, roof signs, switches, etc, etc...
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 02:18:46 pm
The 3 year thing doesn't apply to exsisting plates anymore Belker.As long as its under ten you're good to go.
So ya get the plate rented + insurance fer 3K and then ya buy an old Joe circa 8 year old 7K with a Two 'n a Bit year licence and transfer your Joe in to some one else's name who you don't know.
And fer your 10K n odd you seemingly own a car registered to someone else on his insurance ?

Sorry, but that just ain't doing it fer me !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 03, 2019, 02:20:29 pm
It works, Ken. Plenty of men doing it.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 03, 2019, 02:23:02 pm
Are they going to give them lunch money as well ray ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 02:29:52 pm
I wish the NTA would ban renting altogether
That is easy to say as an owner driver, but not all have the funds to be owner drivers.
I would always encourage renters to become owner drivers, but some love the no hassel
free life of renting and paying a weekly sub.
Granted it cost's them an extra 10K a year but it is Hassel free
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 03, 2019, 02:31:22 pm
Probably, DM... cost me the guts of 8 ton to change my car (on top of the 12 large the car cost) to get an 18 year old meter and c.15 year old printer installed including a new canbus unit, branding stickers, bandages, licence fee, meter seal, motor tax, insurance transfer, petrol for loan car, etc... and the hackney men are supposed to getting it all for nothing!
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 02:41:24 pm
It works, Ken. Plenty of men doing it.
It does seem like a Quick-Fit solution, paying a bank motor loan, renters fees,
Insurance on the drip, base fee's, commission, Etc.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 03, 2019, 02:45:40 pm
There's another crowd (Chinese I think) doing car only rentals... Prius for €140/week with no bodder registering it in your/plate owner's name.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 02:48:15 pm
Probably, DM... cost me the guts of 8 ton to change my car (on top of the 12 large the car cost) to get an 18 year old meter and c.15 year old printer installed including a new canbus unit, branding stickers, bandages, licence fee, meter seal, motor tax, insurance transfer, petrol for loan car, etc... and the hackney men are supposed to getting it all for nothing!
8 was OK, I would have put it at a Grand.
What is a "Canbus unit" ?  Keep it simple.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 03, 2019, 02:51:00 pm
Meter is analogue, car is digital, canbus unit converts the digital to analogue... required for some/most newer cars.

Oh, wait, you said keep it simple... it's a little green box that costs a ton.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 03, 2019, 02:56:21 pm
my car did not need a canbus unit in order to install my meter, some cowboy meter installer told me it did and it was 100 euro for it. luckily i rang around for more quotes and an honest meter installer told me my car did not need a canbus unit.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 03, 2019, 02:57:46 pm
Meter is analogue, car is digital, canbus unit converts the digital to analogue... required for some/most newer cars.

Oh, wait, you said keep it simple... it's a little green box that costs a ton.

So when I'm trading in me Joe you reckon I will need the cannabis yoke to make it work in the new car ?
Keep it simple !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 03, 2019, 03:08:19 pm
Mechanic24 aka South Dublin Autos done mine. They done a similar car for an acquaintance the previous week and his needed one so I was expecting mine to. When I rang they were vague about it saying it might or might not... anywaysanall the damage is done now.

I've never been happy with SDAs installations, they tap into wiring causing fault codes (although you need dealer level diagnostics to read the codes, something like current too high in xxx circuit) instead of going to the fusebox's designated accessory terminals, they have no respect for the interior, choosing screwdrivers over proper trim removal tools, etc... I brought them a brand new Octavia in 2004 and the radio popped out on the way home, on this one they didn't refit the air vent properly, etc, etc... However, they are only work cars so I'm not overly bothered and I know what to expect of them. On the plus side they're dead handy when it comes to recalibrating the meter as they're open 24 hours and the meter (Hale) takes an advance programme so there's none of that queuing bullshit. If I was more particular about my car I would get the installation done elsewhere and just get them to programme it, I guess.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 03, 2019, 03:09:40 pm
So when I'm trading in me Joe you reckon I will need the cannabis yoke to make it work in the new car ?
Keep it simple !

In simple terms, you might! I don't think Jap cars need them, I know SBs Prius didn't and he used Mechanic24 too.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: silverbullet on February 03, 2019, 06:49:30 pm
So when I'm trading in me Joe you reckon I will need the cannabis yoke to make it work in the new car ?
Keep it simple !

In simple terms, you might! I don't think Jap cars need them, I know SBs Prius didn't and he used Mechanic24 too.
Spot on.
Meter uninstalled/installed and a new Roof sign @€350.00.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Deets on February 04, 2019, 12:22:38 am
So far there's been no challenge.Roys kip used to be full of these threads that went nowhere.Just posters saying they hate rideshare but don't care about hackneys taking their work.

Is Roys forums still on the go? At what address?

Agree with others that if Mytaxi/Uber try rideshare in Dublin or other cities we should strike. Rideshare would be the end of this game, taking 3 or 4 people on the same journey means shooting yourself and every other driver in the foot.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 06:52:00 am
We should strike if uber ride share comes in anywhere in ireland, not just if its introduced in any of the cities.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: silverbullet on February 04, 2019, 07:23:54 am
We should strike if uber ride share comes in anywhere in ireland, not just if its introduced in any of the cities.
+1
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 04, 2019, 08:07:45 am
Jesus wept..............."if"?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 04, 2019, 08:43:59 am
We should strike if uber ride share comes in anywhere in ireland, not just if its introduced in any of the cities.
Totally agreed, if they get a foot in the door they will not settle fer the Rural only gig, nobody even the rural drivers want that gig.
Rural rideshare is just a stepping stone toward Full Rideshare.  STRIKE !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 09:00:33 am
^^^^^I think Roys place is gone for good Deets.He got a pain in his rocks babysitting us.Now he's in hiding from the revenue..probably.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 04, 2019, 09:01:38 am
And what exactly will Rural mean ?

This is an old photo of where I am from Douglas in Cork.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sQby0Pyj/Douglas-Old.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sQby0Pyj)
Back in the day it was a One Horse Rural village separated from the city by the boundry line of the Tramore river.

Today it is a metropolis of activity.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pm3wvW4C/Douglas-today.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pm3wvW4C)

But it is still a RURAL village.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on February 04, 2019, 09:05:59 am
You were told years ago this is going to be political .The government have an idea for local mayors to be elected to run Cities .If or when that happens rideshare will be seen as an environmental issue with it being promoted as a traffic calming and emissions control , if they can convince more people to rideshare then the amount of taxies reduces freeing up the bus lanes .Rideshare is a win/win/win for local government .In Dublin 24 hour bus services are the biggest danger to your jobs ,now that the British company have entered the market with different terms and conditions for drivers it makes perfect sense to run busses on a demand led servise throughout the night .Security was always an issue but with Leap cards or pay by app the bus companies can know exactly who is on the bus that should reduce trouble and encourage use .
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 09:09:02 am
Nobody would notice if a few drivers went on strike.Yis have to start blocking airports and motorways if yis wanna be noticed.I won't be striking because yis only have a loose grasp of reality.Yis are happy to strike about rideshare but see no threat from easily obtainable hack or taxi licences.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on February 04, 2019, 09:28:58 am
Merc  I was talking to one of our local TDs yesterday he was saying how hard it was to get a taxi sometimes .I told him I could solve that problem and create a few thousand jobs with a simple change that would cost absolutely nothing .Id like to hear that he said .I suggested that the big problem the Dublin economy had is pay day surge and dip ..Most people are paid once a month ,this means that at the beginning of the month people have a lot of cash so go out to bars ,clubs ,restaurants causing a surge in demand for services but later in the month when there is less money circulating the demand for taxi and restaurant services drops meaning that people employed in the hospitality industries get less hours so pay less tax and recieve more welfare ,If the government issued a directive that salaries should be paid every two weekd in stead of monthly (the civil services pay every two weeks ) this would release money into the economy at a more controled rate and reduce early month surge and end of month lithargy where both taxi drivers and hospitality workers are sent home due to lack of economic activity .If there was a more ordered release of money into the economy more zero hour workers would get more hours people would have the same amount to spend but would do less binge spending .Most of the demand for taxies is around pay day weekends the third week of the month is usually a bit slower than the first .If you can control the release of money into the economy you can control the demand for services from taxies and hospitality and probably hospitals as there are less people demanding service at the same time .
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 09:30:59 am
The taxi licence is not easily obtained. You have to get 75 per cent correct to pass the test. Some of the questions are years out of date,questions about garda stations closed 5+ years, one way systems which have been changed. I got asked a question about an estate that did not exist, which makes it even harder to pass.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 09:34:01 am
John that's good thinking.At the stroke of a pen the NTA could decide to bring in a much easier PSV exam taxi1990.It's not set in stone.

When did you sit yours?

By the way since the exam was made easier there are already more drivers coming through the test.All they need to do is drop it to 50% pass rate and well be up to our necks in drivers again.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 09:36:10 am
I sat mine in 2015. You had to get 80 per cent to pass. Have done two counties.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 09:40:30 am
Ok the same exam I sat in 2009.What if instead of allowing rideshare they made the taxi test much easier?Already we've seen an increase in drivers coming through the system with Mytaxi's assistance.There could be a couple of thousand drivers a year coming onstream.Do ya not think that might affect your income?All 100% legal.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on February 04, 2019, 09:48:19 am
John that's good thinking.At the stroke of a pen the NTA could decide to bring in a much easier PSV exam taxi1990.It's not set in stone.

When did you sit yours?

By the way since the exam was made easier there are already more drivers coming through the test.All they need to do is drop it to 50% pass rate and well be up to our necks in drivers again.

Merc your over thinking the licence keep the pass rate at 80% just change the questions .I told a recent test taker remember school when they told you to read all the questions first .
Q1 where is Dail Eireann ?
Q19 How do you get from Dail Eireann on Kildare Street to Arus an Uchtarain in Chesterfield Avenue ?
Q48 Where is Arus an Uchtarain
Q72 Name 3 streets you would take traveling from Dail Eireannto Arus an Uchtarain ?

There are the answers to four questions contained in the actual questions .
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 09:52:42 am
It's all about maths John.They've already reduced the pass rate to 75% from 80%.That means there were lots of candidates getting within a gee hair of passing who are now badge holders.Another few percent will definitely make a massive difference.The test is the reason we're not making a tenner an hour anymore.All hail the test!
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on February 04, 2019, 09:57:39 am
It's all about maths John.They've already reduced the pass rate to 75% from 80%.That means there were lots of candidates getting within a gee hair of passing who are now badge holders.Another few percent will definitely make a massive difference.The test is the reason we're not making a tenner an hour anymore.All hail the test!

 We dont know how the RANDOM questions are selected .Is there a logoritm that identifies certain names and accomodates certain questions ,nobody knows hoe the questions are programmed to come out .No need to reduce the score just simplify the questions to suit the applicant .
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 10:01:01 am
I would much prefer drivers entering the market that have to pass a test, buy all the relevant equipment, pass vehicle test etc rhan anyone with a phone and car to be allowed drive for reward. They made the test hard to pass because the market was saturated with too many drivers, the nta told me this. But in fairness we are loosing drivers now so the test should be made easier to pass.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 04, 2019, 10:09:47 am
There'll always be some sort of test to keep the boys in jobs. Some say with Sat-Navs and Google Maps there's no need for one, but it's a money-spinner all the same.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 04, 2019, 10:20:48 am
There is STILL far to many taxis.as far as rideshare goes,thats a different kettle of fish.our battle there,is with the public who would take your jobs in a heartbeat.the problem as iI see it is,you,the drivers who have aligned yourselves with apps ,and radio companies,have given up control of OUR industry,to companies you did not need to give control to.now these same people treat you like you were their employees. are you happy with that ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 04, 2019, 10:32:33 am
I would much prefer drivers entering the market that have to pass a test, buy all the relevant equipment, pass vehicle test etc rhan anyone with a phone and car to be allowed drive for reward. They made the test hard to pass because the market was saturated with too many drivers, the nta told me this. But in fairness we are loosing drivers now so the test should be made easier to pass.
I would agree with all that, we do need new drivers coming in to the fleet as there are other drivers leaving the fleet fer what ever reason. Currently there are more leaving than joining, the insurance hike and the door decals sent a lorra part-timers on their way.
I have no problem with new drivers or hack's passing the test and working professionally paying proper Hire and Reward insurance.
But I do have a big problem with Joe Soap sitting at home with his Rideshare driver app open waiting to take my job from me and him not paying Hire and Reward insurance like me and not having to pass the annual suitability test like me, nor did he ever have to sit any type of Taxi test, all he needs is a phone and a car if/when Rideshare is approved and he can rob the food from my table.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 04, 2019, 10:34:56 am
There is STILL far to many taxis.as far as rideshare goes,thats a different kettle of fish.our battle there,is with the public who would take your jobs in a heartbeat.the problem as iI see it is,you,the drivers who have aligned yourselves with apps ,and radio companies,have given up control of OUR industry,to companies you did not need to give control to.now these same people treat you like you were their employees. are you happy with that ?
Yes. (on the App part).
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 04, 2019, 10:47:06 am
@ DM, just last night I had a very late start at about 4am, but the app hopped constantly as the Superbowl parties were breaking up, I passed through Cork city a few times with fares on-board to see the exact same Taxies sitting on Ghost ranks in the city center without a soul on the streets, they probably all still made their Tenner an hour and paid no commission or base sub, but I was making Thrice that and gladly paying the commission to cover it.  PUC negates commission.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: stonethecrows on February 04, 2019, 11:06:54 am
There'll always be some sort of test to keep the boys in jobs. Some say with Sat-Navs and Google Maps there's no need for one, but it's a money-spinner all the same.

Maybe just have a test to prove you can read the Fckn Sat-Nav and Google Maps
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2019, 11:16:36 am
I'm not aware of Roy's forum returning, Deets. If it did I could close this place.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 04, 2019, 11:18:22 am
I'm not aware of Roy's forum returning, Deets. If it did I could close this place.

Chisnall...........flattered to deceive........not changing the topic intentionally. Never again........
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 11:26:00 am
for any drivers thinking about not striking and protesting if uber ride share is introduced in the rural areas first. where do you think the drivers in rural towns are going to work? the cities is the answer, if this came in, i would be doing the Dublin, Galway tests asap, i will have to make a living some way. there would be a lot of drivers like me.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2019, 11:26:26 am
Grrr... haven't watched it yet... went to work last night and dropped in on a superbowl party after that...have to go to Lidl this morning, then I'll watch the darts!
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 04, 2019, 11:28:16 am
Apologies........I was at home and switching between it and a DVD about unity amongst working class heroes.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2019, 11:29:02 am
for any drivers thinking about not striking and protesting if uber ride share is introduced in the rural areas first. where do you think the drivers in rural towns are going to work? the cities is the answer, if this came in, i would be doing the Dublin, Galway tests asap, i will have to make a living some way. there would be a lot of drivers like me.

You don't need to do the tests to work for mytaxi... they have the majority of the work up above in Dublin and probably in Galway. At least try before you buy, so to speak.

Will we be OK with mytaxi rideshare... bearing in mind that Uber requires it's drivers to be licensed for the areas they work whereas mytaxi doesn't?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 11:33:18 am
i like to see who im picking up before they get in my car, if i don't like the look of someone i keep driving or suddenly remember im booked.

i reckon the NTA are not going to be in favor of ride share. at least alan kelly is not the minister for transport anymore.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2019, 11:38:01 am
You can refuse radio/app clients as easily as street/rank fares. The problem you'd have in Dublin is the other way round. A lot of those who don't use "the app" don't use it because they don't want you to have any trace on them. The proportion of scum among remaining street work is huge compared to 2/3 years ago.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 11:40:09 am
after all the years of the NTA banging on about their plan to make transport in Ireland reliable and professional, letting any boy racer or student with a phone and car work for hire will undo any of their work the last few years. you can imagine how these people would handle drunks in their car.

rickshaws should have been banned as well, sure didn't shane ross himself nearly get killed in one that was breaking red lights and all sorts.  they sell drugs as well, i mean come on, how were they not banned?

the taxis in Dublin should have blocked up the streets for days to get them banned
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2019, 11:41:59 am
Indeed... leave it to the convicted criminals and unvetted immigrants!
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 11:42:18 am
@rat catcher, have you ever picked up many people from the app that were scum?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2019, 11:45:43 am
Depends on how you define scum, I guess. A lot of my mytaxi regulars are lads you wouldn't stop for on the street and they know that, that's why the use it. More are low level drug dealers... but I've never had a runner on a mytaxi fare. In fact the worst I've had to date was a puker that I should have refused last Saturday night, mentioned on another thread.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 11:52:15 am
I suppose sometimes some people look like scumbags but are sound.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2019, 11:59:09 am
The vast majority are sound but you only need to encounter one that isn't I guess. Hence we all drive by plenty of sound blokes on the streets.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 12:05:00 pm
Kind of funny when you think about it. Some of the worst customers iv had are weathly people from places like Blackrock, Dublin and similar places.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2019, 12:17:09 pm
I prefer to deal with normal working class folk, myself. Pretentious gobshites with millionaires addresses are generally annoying but they can be lucrative if you play them right... they love to talk about themselves so let them and act in awe... if they're going on holiday say you'd love to (be able to afford to) go there, etc... Don't say what you're thinking e.g. I bet your misses is gagging for a good seeing to!
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 12:31:36 pm
I couldnt do that, they always boast about their jobs and salary but I act as if I couldnt give a sh1t. Had 3 guys from foxrock ask me how much the fare was 17 I said, we will give you 10 and we will get you again later, I got my 17. Had lots of others who will look for the 20 cent back from a 9.80 fare. Where as nearly every person from working class areas in dublin will give you €10 if its €7, or €15 if it is €10 euro etc

Most pompous customer I had, with his wife, around 60 asked me was it my business, I told him it was. Better than staying in bed all day I suppose was his reply. He was going on about his great job, I said id rather work for myself all the same.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 04, 2019, 01:06:45 pm
I prefer to deal with normal working class folk, myself. Pretentious gobshites with millionaires addresses are generally annoying but they can be lucrative if you play them right... they love to talk about themselves so let them and act in awe... if they're going on holiday say you'd love to (be able to afford to) go there, etc... Don't say what you're thinking e.g. I bet your misses is gagging for a good seeing to!

Very accurate description of the luvvies. I find working class lads are the ones bigging themselves up though in the main.........especially with each other.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2019, 02:27:14 pm
... but they big themselves up in a different way... got a job off the funeral in Swords last Thursday evening, little kids from Coolock all thinking they're Al Capone... sad really, you'd think the circumstances would teach them the futility of their desired/chosen lifestyles.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 02:28:13 pm
^^^^I was busy earlier...so a couple of yis said yous would prefer loadsa loosely regulated drivers rather than loadsa unregulated Uber drivers.Have yis got any memory at all of how absolutely shite things were ten years ago?Taxis everywhere barely able to take in a tenner an hour and our costs were significantly less.Taxi1990 where were ya working ten years ago?Belker was selling gargle and books from his boot to make a living.

These taxi/hack newbies would be most likely driving rentals as finance would be scarce except for those with savings.So think of guys like Vandriver working all hours because they need to to break even as business slows down.Rideshare hasn't got a chance of going ahead but the taxi regulations are likely to be altered.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 04, 2019, 02:28:42 pm
Hyacinth Bouquet versus Howyacinth Bucket............same inferiority complex.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on February 04, 2019, 02:40:47 pm
work dublin 8,10,12 most people are good customers know plenty of junkies ,gangsters whores all just going about their business .you drive them you get paid never any trouble they appreciate you are doing your job a lot of them appreciate that you are there to help them get to where they need to be .Some of the Ruggerbuggers just look on you as a cunt who should appreciate that they are using your service .
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 04, 2019, 02:54:37 pm
I thought things were grand 10 yrs ago.....i remember 2011 being bad and having to source alternative employment whilst commuting from the depths of rural Ireland and trying to balance a relationship at the same time. I was doing ok prior to that anyway..........men and women without any skillset cannot and should not expect to earn more than a trainee accountant ffs. As what's his name the MP said, "the man on the Clapham omnibus should not expect to earn more than his share".
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 03:07:25 pm
2009 was the beginning of the crash.It got a little worse in the following years.Plenty of renters were trademen/builders driving shiteboxes having already been laid off.Sure the downturn was the main reason I had to leave my previous job.Boss wanted me to work for 300 instead of 700.So while I saw things slowing down I borrowed a few grand from the bank to buy a car and plate.I started the ball rolling on that in 2008 while listening to Ms Doyle on the radio talking about incoming tougher geography tests.So I bought a plate and kept the roofie under the stairs waiting for the day to tell my boss to fuck off.Told the bank the loan was for home improvements when it was actually just to keep me gaff.:-).Even I knew something was changing.Wasnt sure what it was but courier work slowed down and I had nothing else to pay the bills.Time to adapt and change.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2019, 03:13:15 pm
Sept 2008.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 03:22:23 pm
That's about right then in September 09 I sat my taxi test.So it's safe to say the warning signs were there before 09.I should have known when I was in New York on holidays in Sept 2008 when Lehman Brothers collapsed and the mood was strange, also my neighbour who was a stockbroker for a bank sold his gaff to cash out and rent around the same time.I was too busy doing other shit to notice the warning signs.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 03:34:58 pm
I was in college 10 years ago. Only at this game since 2016.

Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 03:42:37 pm
That makes more sense then because it was pure shite.

7 years ago
https://youtu.be/2CCBh5nzCm0...Im in this somewhere..

8 years ago
https://youtu.be/PPNd71QneTE

See what happens when you loosen the test up and business slows down.Very few of the lads on these videos passed the new test.So it took a full ten years before the small number of newbies started trickling through.But all the time there were more leaving the industry.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 03:52:03 pm
Dumb down the test = a few more drivers

Allow uber ride share = EVERYONE will be driving for reward.

Students, people with money bit are greedy,single/married lads who think its a good way to meet women everyone.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 04:38:26 pm
That's exactly what we had when the test was dumbed down.A loada greedy fuks with other employments using the cab to get away from their families...except they were legitimate 100% legal taxi drivers.Anyway I'm spending too much time on this but I hope ya see Rideshare as a diversion like I do.It's not gonna happen but the other shit I posted probably will.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 04, 2019, 05:02:57 pm
Greedy fuckers were those expecting to earn top dollar for little or no skills...........the same cunts who wanted nobody else in when they were hanging up their wife's dashboard pic and hitting the boozers by 11pm......there's no point murdering a fool who is in the throes of committing suicide. It's happening again but being ahead of the posse is all the small-minded fool cares about.........I'm alright Jack.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on February 04, 2019, 05:10:58 pm
whatever happenned to the local area hackney license.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 05:19:31 pm
I think it's still there DMG.Most likely that will be the licence that's modified to work any Uber farmer setup.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 04, 2019, 05:25:22 pm
One sure fire way we have to quell the desire to allow rideshare,by protesting,but without pussing off the public. 2 hundred drivers take it in turn to fill every available parking spot around merrion square,stephens green,etc etc every morning .when the suits come into town,and have nowhere to park,they wont be long getting on to the Govt ti forget about permitting rideshare.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 04, 2019, 05:30:24 pm
Could yis not protest during the night shift when I'm off work?Block a luas line or circle the airport .Always daytime protests.Very inconsiderate.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Shallowhal on February 04, 2019, 06:10:22 pm
Sept 2008.

That was when guarantees were signed or about to be....the shit hit the fan proper in 2009
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Shallowhal on February 04, 2019, 06:12:37 pm
I was in college 10 years ago. Only at this game since 2016.

Do tell!
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 04, 2019, 07:05:37 pm
What went wrong, or right, as the case may be...
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 04, 2019, 07:22:31 pm
It was a good place to be during the recession.
Best 6 years of my life, got a graduate job when I left, hated it, wearing a suit every day,sitting in front of a computer screen, working for a boss and with colleagues who would stab you in the back as soon as look at you. quit and set up a taxi business. I dont regret it either.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Shallowhal on February 04, 2019, 07:54:06 pm
It was a good place to be during the recession.
Best 6 years of my life, got a graduate job when I left, hated it, wearing a suit every day,sitting in front of a computer screen, working for a boss and with colleagues who would stab you in the back as soon as look at you. quit and set up a taxi business. I dont regret it either.

Kill or be killed....a good business ethos.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Deets on February 05, 2019, 05:16:33 am

Totally agreed, if they get a foot in the door they will not settle fer the Rural only gig, nobody even the rural drivers want that gig.
Rural rideshare is just a stepping stone toward Full Rideshare.  STRIKE !

Rural rideshare is basically a trojan horse to get it in nationwide. Always fight the first cut because if you don't you'll be steamrolled on the next one
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Deets on February 05, 2019, 05:17:55 am
^^^^^I think Roys place is gone for good Deets.He got a pain in his rocks babysitting us.Now he's in hiding from the revenue..probably.

ah right, does that mean this is the only taxi forum in Ireland then?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 05, 2019, 05:30:11 am
I'm not sure but if there is it will be similar to this place but it won't have a database.Even the Uber lads have their own forums.They mostly complain about the same stuff as us.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 05, 2019, 07:33:56 am
It was a good place to be during the recession.
Best 6 years of my life, got a graduate job when I left, hated it, wearing a suit every day,sitting in front of a computer screen, working for a boss and with colleagues who would stab you in the back as soon as look at you. quit and set up a taxi business. I dont regret it either.

I remember it well.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 05, 2019, 07:56:40 am
If rideshare is allowed and we sit on our hands and do nothing,then it will be OUR fault.the drivers in Madrid are on strike for the past 2 weeks, for the same reason lets hope they are successful
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 05, 2019, 08:09:46 am
^^^^^I think Roys place is gone for good Deets.He got a pain in his rocks babysitting us.Now he's in hiding from the revenue..probably.

ah right, does that mean this is the only taxi forum in Ireland then?

If you're on Facebook, there's a group hug page.....so I've been told. Some of the professional lads here are on it- according to one of the professional lads.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 05, 2019, 10:50:59 am
whatever happenned to the local area hackney license.
Nobody Fookin wanted them !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 05, 2019, 10:52:07 am
This Cork man is sure determined................

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/minister-daly-to-press-for-uber-style-rural-taxi-services-902137.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/minister-daly-to-press-for-uber-style-rural-taxi-services-902137.html)

True for him........."pious elite in Dublin with no understanding of rural life"..........
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 05, 2019, 11:08:44 am
There's no rideshare in Madrid, DM. They're protesting about Uber using high quality private hire licensed vehicles i.e. hackney/limousine licences... bit like the way mytaxi uses clapped out shiteboxes masquerading as limousines over here, just mytaxi doesn't impose any qualitative restrictions. Also, in Madrid they have quantitative restrictions on private hire licences, we don't.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 05, 2019, 11:09:18 am
"Liberalising taxi regulations"... that's a massive difference.The last time they did that they flooded the country with cheap taxi plates.Nowhere is Rideshare mentioned in that article.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 05, 2019, 11:13:11 am
If you factor in what is purported to be happening behind the scenes, particularly NTA considering abolishing hackney licences, it all makes a lot more sense.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 05, 2019, 11:15:06 am
And what exactly will Rural mean ?

This is an old photo of where I am from Douglas in Cork.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sQby0Pyj/Douglas-Old.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sQby0Pyj)
Back in the day it was a One Horse Rural village separated from the city by the boundry line of the Tramore river.

Today it is a metropolis of activity.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pm3wvW4C/Douglas-today.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pm3wvW4C)

But it is still a RURAL village.

"Minister Daly to press for 'uber-style' rural taxi services.
Rural drivers should be given new licences which allow them to pick up passengers for a set price within 15km of their homes in a bid to clamp down on ongoing drink driving concerns."


So if a uber driver who lives in Douglas in Cork which is still considered as a Rural village as it is just outside the city bounds gets a 15km uber rural licence to pick up, then that 15km radius takes in the entire Cork city area North, South, East and West.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 05, 2019, 11:17:53 am
If you factor in what is purported to be happening behind the scenes, particularly NTA considering abolishing hackney licences, it all makes a lot more sense.

Yes.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 05, 2019, 11:18:31 am
When they get themselves on the Mytaxi app there will be nothing stopping them taking your work Belker..Mytaxi or Uber won't give a flying fuk who they upset.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 05, 2019, 11:19:40 am
"Liberalising taxi regulations"... that's a massive difference.The last time they did that they flooded the country with cheap taxi plates.Nowhere is Rideshare mentioned in that article.
I reckon the word "uber style" mentioned frequently in the article means Rideshare.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 05, 2019, 11:21:36 am
Uber-style would be fully licensed taxis. What we have to fear is it evolving into a mytaxi-style anything that moves approach.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 05, 2019, 11:22:02 am
Belker, Mytaxi IS Uber-style.It's just a way of describing the method of dispatching the work via an app.Rideshare is a distraction.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 05, 2019, 11:24:03 am
To be fair, Uber doesn't use clapped out shiteboxes masquerading as limousines to cover taxi fares nor does it allow drivers accept fares outside of their licensed areas... in both cases, mytaxi does.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 05, 2019, 11:27:18 am
I was on an Uber forum last night out of boredom and apparently in some states in the US they have a 15-year 150000-mile restriction on what vehicles they allow on their app. That's me off the road if they ever bring in that rule.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 05, 2019, 11:29:25 am
Uber-style would be fully licensed taxis. What we have to fear is it evolving into a mytaxi-style anything that moves approach.
I would disagree, I reckon the 'uber style' reference was more toward the US or Aussie way of uber where anyone with a car and phone can use uber, rather that the Dublin style where licenced drivers are required.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 05, 2019, 11:30:54 am
I heard from a lad who works with the brother at times that a local hack service in his town in the Wesshht has "banned" their drivers from having smart phones. Another "Evil Dublin Scheme" be the hokey. Apps is for them heathens. Nokias and Doros only.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 05, 2019, 11:33:42 am
Can yis imagine how much more efficient the taxi/hackney service would have been if there wasn't some fat base controller fukking things up taking backhanders.Apps are definitely a smarter way to get the work covered.

Mytaxi getting the HSE contract in Cork is starting to make more sense now.New hacks/taxis will cover the work when the taxi men don't wanna give discounts.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 05, 2019, 11:39:47 am
Belker, Mytaxi IS Uber-style.It's just a way of describing the method of dispatching the work via an app.Rideshare is a distraction.
No, at present it is Not !

uber (outside of Eire) provide work to anyone with a phone and a car.
MyTaxi provide work to licenced drivers only.

That all may change someday, but today that is the way it stands.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 05, 2019, 11:41:45 am
they have rural area hackney licences, i read a case lately about one of these guys who was up in court, as he was picking passengers up outside his 10km limit. i wonder how many of these rural area hackneys are operating in the country?

how much would they pay in insurance in their first year?

if there has not been many people getting these licences, it is probably because working these rural areas is not profitable to make it worth your while. then why would anyone want an uber licence to work these backwaters? they wont, why does this TD keep mentioning towns with a population of less than 7,500? does he want uber rid share in such towns? because if he opened his eyes he might see that these kind of towns have any amount of taxis, hackneys, buses and illegal taxis.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 05, 2019, 11:44:48 am
Your naivety is refreshing, Ken... as you clearly haven't researched the firm you work for and advertise FOC, here's another line from it's mission statement:

moovel on-demand enhances the public transit system in your city with a dynamic flexible ridesharing solution.

https://www.moovel.com/en (https://www.moovel.com/en)
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Deets on February 05, 2019, 01:50:18 pm
I'm not sure but if there is it will be similar to this place but it won't have a database.Even the Uber lads have their own forums.They mostly complain about the same stuff as us.

ah right, just goes to show we are a moaning pack of bastards whereever we are  ;D
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 05, 2019, 02:13:18 pm
Your naivety is refreshing, Ken... as you clearly haven't researched the firm you work for and advertise FOC, here's another line from it's mission statement:

moovel on-demand enhances the public transit system in your city with a dynamic flexible ridesharing solution.

https://www.moovel.com/en (https://www.moovel.com/en)

I know exactly whom I am working fer Stephen and I know their Goal's.

At the moment it suits me just fine, I don't advertise fer them FOC.
I advertise fer them or am an Ambassador because most importantly
I get a time preference on instant hails which is most important to me.
I also get the 8 cent off per liter of fuel and half price car washes which
is only secondary to me and Small Potatoes.
The time preference on instant hails was why I went Ambassador,
but there is no long term contract with MyTaxi, if the rules change
and I don't like them, then I can just Walk Away !
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 05, 2019, 02:17:08 pm
Walk away after giving them all the work... sounds like a plan!

I don't understand why you need a time preference... the only times I have priority is when the whole fleet has it on a Sunday and Monday and they're trousering at least €3/hour from me... how much of your hard earned do you (want to) give them FFS?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Deets on February 05, 2019, 02:17:36 pm
If rideshare is allowed and we sit on our hands and do nothing,then it will be OUR fault.the drivers in Madrid are on strike for the past 2 weeks, for the same reason lets hope they are successful

You're right, it will be our fault for rolling over and taking it up the arse from the NTA. If any sham is allowed to hop in their car on a Friday night the then whole industry is fucked becuase it will not stop at rural areas. Also the devil will be in the detail and we can already see Douglas being labelled as 'rural' so they will label places like the Naul as 'rural' and suddenly the whole of Dublin city is opened up to rideshare. I read before that what mytaxi want to do is run set routes during commuting hours such as Swords to CC. Drivers will be paid a crap fixed rate with extras likely dropped. A taxi will leave Swords every 5-10 minutes and pick up four passengers along the way. mytaxi want it to compete with the bus service essentially and if we're competing against subsidised bus fares then taxi income will only go south. Then when that works they will do the same at night time to compete against the Nitelink. You'll have a route like City to Lucan and have to bring four passengers each to their door for a fixed rate. By doing so you're robbing other drivers of income.

Another problem not yet mentioned with rideshare is if something happens between passengers who are strangers. You're gonna have lads locked out of their tree groping on young wans in the back seat. You're going to have lads using rideshare and then harassing young wans when they know exactly where they live. Rideshare will be attractive to pick pockets too, all they have to do is stay sober on a Saturday night and theres a few easy wallets.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 05, 2019, 02:19:35 pm
To be fair, Deets... NTA didn't make us give all the work to mytaxi... we done that all by ourselves.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Deets on February 05, 2019, 05:21:47 pm
True rats but now mytaxi are lobbying for a change in NTA legislation, its the NTA that any protests should be aimed at if they attempt to change the rules of the game so drastically it will hit everyone in the pocket
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 05, 2019, 06:03:02 pm
has anyone here been talking to anyone in the NTA about this hair brained idea?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 05, 2019, 07:12:07 pm
As I keep saying till im blue in the face.it will ALWAYS be the case that the drivers call the shots.but for some strange reason you want to give that power to dispatchers .both apps,and radio companies.WHEN WILL YOU ALL WAKE UP.,?-if these companies have no drivers,they cannot operate,but you ,on the other hand can operate quite easily without them.please someone explain to me why you want to give control of YOUR industry over to a bunch of crooks who would put you on the scrapheap as quick as look at you ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 05, 2019, 07:17:44 pm
In most parts of the north,it is compulsory to be aligned to a radio company.that is not the case here YET,but you seem to be doing everything in your power to make that become compulsory.  WHY  ? Drivers in the north would give anything to be able to operate independently,but you lot seem determined,to,give up that right.I appeal to you ditch dispatchers, you don't need them
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: watty on February 05, 2019, 07:22:36 pm
I'm not sure NI is a good example.  I don't believe they have street hail up there (apart from the Belfast Black Taxis). 
In other words, I believe you have to phone for a taxi up there... (or go to a rank, which probably don't exist outside of the big towns?)
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 05, 2019, 07:37:30 pm
Thats the point im making watty.you have to phone for a cab up there.no such regulation exist here in the republic,where the drivers can enjoy total freedom of operating independently,but the fact that they are queuing up in their droves to give this power away by joining radio companies ( who seem to think the drivers are their employees) is puzzling to say the least






Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Shallowhal on February 05, 2019, 11:00:19 pm
I'm not sure NI is a good example.  I don't believe they have street hail up there (apart from the Belfast Black Taxis). 
In other words, I believe you have to phone for a taxi up there... (or go to a rank, which probably don't exist outside of the big towns?)

Only had that conversation with a chap from Belfast over the weekend...taxis don't stop for street hails and some drivers only go to certain areas for drop off or pick ups.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 06, 2019, 07:03:28 am
Taxis are not ALLOWED stop for street hails in the north by law.thats my whole point .we are,but we seem to be giving up the right to work independently of dispatchers because our drivers want to bring about a situation whereby you HAVE TO be aligned to a dispatcher.why do they want to give up the right to work on their own  ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 06, 2019, 07:41:18 am
There's no PSV test in Norn Iron- or was none up to and including 5 yrs ago. Talk of introducing one met serious resistance from the Council for Civil Kneecappings.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 06, 2019, 08:24:21 am
William Ulsterman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxpYW_w5pgo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxpYW_w5pgo)
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 06, 2019, 08:48:46 am
Lip the point I am trying to make is.the norths drivers cannot pick up on the side of the road,so therefore they must pass a potential fare when a,hand comes out.we,on the other hand CAN  pick up on the side of the road,but it seems to me that our drivers are doing everything to bring about a situation whereby you HAVE to be aligned to a dispatcher,and they seem to want to give up the right to work independently of these dispatching scumbags.this is unfair to drivers who wish to remain independent
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 06, 2019, 09:00:25 am
I was introducing a bit of levity to the thing, Dalyer. Look- when every last fool is hanging as bait on the MyTaxi hook there'll still be the need for fellows picking up off the street. When those not too fond of technology are deceased, there won't be an Irishman driving a Taxi anyway.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: silverbullet on February 06, 2019, 08:55:45 pm
I was introducing a bit of levity to the thing, Dalyer. Look- when every last fool is hanging as bait on the MyTaxi hook there'll still be the need for fellows picking up off the street. When those not too fond of technology are deceased, there won't be an Irishman driving a Taxi anyway.
The Future is Bright, The Future is Brown.
Then computer chips.
Inshallah.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 06, 2019, 09:03:21 pm
As I keep saying till im blue in the face.it will ALWAYS be the case that the drivers call the shots.but for some strange reason you want to give that power to dispatchers .both apps,and radio companies.WHEN WILL YOU ALL WAKE UP.,?-if these companies have no drivers,they cannot operate,but you ,on the other hand can operate quite easily without them.please someone explain to me why you want to give control of YOUR industry over to a bunch of crooks who would put you on the scrapheap as quick as look at you ?

To Boringly Repeat;
@ DM, just last night I had a very late start at about 4am, but the app hopped constantly as the Superbowl parties were breaking up, I passed through Cork city a few times with fares on-board to see the exact same Taxies sitting on Ghost ranks in the city center without a soul on the streets, they probably all still made their Tenner an hour and paid no commission or base sub, but I was making Thrice that and gladly paying the commission to cover it.  PUC negates commission.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Vikkiz on February 06, 2019, 09:04:09 pm
They cannot stop for street hails as they are not taxis, they are mini cabs, private hire, the exact same as our hackneys.
The black cabs in Belfast can stop for street hails as they are taxis
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Belker on February 06, 2019, 09:06:38 pm
......but now mytaxi are lobbying for a change in NTA legislation......
Are they ?  Post a link ?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 13, 2019, 04:05:12 pm
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uber-could-help-to-solve-rural-transport-issues-says-minister-nx67jnsrn (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uber-could-help-to-solve-rural-transport-issues-says-minister-nx67jnsrn)


Does ross not know what uber ride share is? Their drivers dont have to do any area knowkedge tests.

Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: john m on February 13, 2019, 04:18:36 pm
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uber-could-help-to-solve-rural-transport-issues-says-minister-nx67jnsrn (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uber-could-help-to-solve-rural-transport-issues-says-minister-nx67jnsrn)


Does ross not know what uber ride share is? Their drivers dont have to do any area knowkedge tests.

Do you not know who Ross Is he makes the rules we refer to him as Minister For Transport Ross .What he says goes he sets the standard for drivers or Cars .
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 13, 2019, 04:41:14 pm
Would love to know what the plan is. I rang the NTA about uber yesterday, they said its just a proposal at the moment and if it does come in, it will be in the distant future.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Octavia1 on February 13, 2019, 05:57:40 pm
https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2019/0213/1029373-rural-transport/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2019/0213/1029373-rural-transport/)

Free taxis
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: watty on February 13, 2019, 06:05:11 pm
Yes but...
Only Sunday -- Thurs, 7pm - midnight
Car donated by local garage
9,000 p.a. running costs (estimated but almost certainly higher in practice)

All so the elderly can take a drug (alcohol) in their local drug centre (pub).
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 13, 2019, 06:31:44 pm
There's a report on the free taxi story on Six one news in a few mins.Might be repeated at 9.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 13, 2019, 06:34:01 pm
 rofl free taxis, such mugs doing that for free, why didn't they just get a local area hackney licence?


my worry about shane ross is, I can imagine him just sitting there in a meeting with Uber and just agreeing with all they say and any plans they have.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 13, 2019, 06:56:25 pm
I doubt they're actually working for free.If every passenger threw them a few quid tip they're gonna make a few bob.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 13, 2019, 07:07:43 pm
might actually be better for us than uber rideshare. but their insurance should be more expensive like it is for us.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 13, 2019, 07:09:00 pm
if they are taking money at all from the passengers, the NTA would find out and the drivers would be caught and end up in court.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 13, 2019, 07:11:40 pm
Technically if you're not taking money you aren't driving for reward so the insurance may not come into it.Tips won't be declared.

On that report on the news yer man had door stickers and all.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 13, 2019, 07:14:27 pm
a tip is money, if they take a tip they will be set up by the NTA and will have to answer to a judge about it.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 13, 2019, 07:15:36 pm
I know what money is...but that's how the rickshaws are circumventing the PSV regulations.What happens if the free taxi crowd get organised and get themselves on an app?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 13, 2019, 07:16:34 pm
but do the rickshaw drivers not ask for money?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 13, 2019, 07:17:32 pm
Rickshaws just say they take tips AFAIk.There's some loophoole they're using.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 13, 2019, 07:23:01 pm
Well from some of the stories I have heard  about rickshaw drivers,it would be a brave man who would offer them a tio,rather then a fare.in fact I heard much more then taxis
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 13, 2019, 07:23:31 pm
i have been in a rickshaw a few times, they have always asked for 5 euro, 10 euro etc. just like a taxi but they just pluck a number from the air.


these free taxis only seem to operate at times that wouldn't really interfere with taxis all that much. there is something about it i don't like though, can i set up a free pub in my house? i think drink is too expensive in pubs, so im going to set up a free one for people who cant afford to go to the pub.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: taxi1990 on February 13, 2019, 07:24:50 pm
i got a rickshaw once wit a friend. the trip would have been 6 or 7 euro in a taxi, the driver asked for 10 euro.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 13, 2019, 07:29:44 pm
They're just gonna evolve into hacks over time.The hacks from 20 years ago never had smartphones just old fashioned radios.So they're much more of a threat to taxis than a scaldy radio hack.Anyway that's a while a way but just look at the way London uses private hire hacks to cover app jobs.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: dalymount on February 13, 2019, 07:38:54 pm
DCChad the chance to get rid of rickshaws some time ago but they bottled it.when you look at who the top men are on DCC committee,Ciaran Cuff,Owen Keegen,two committed green party members ,is it any wonder they still allow rickshaws.they got rid in Galway ,why not Dublin
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 13, 2019, 09:09:29 pm
might actually be better for us than uber rideshare. but their insurance should be more expensive like it is for us.

Would it be better than mytaxi rideshare?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 13, 2019, 09:10:40 pm
...so im going to set up a free one for people who cant afford to go to the pub.

Are you taking bookings for next January?
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: silverbullet on February 13, 2019, 10:15:03 pm
They're just gonna evolve into hacks over time.The hacks from 20 years ago never had smartphones just old fashioned radios.So they're much more of a threat to taxis than a scaldy radio hack.Anyway that's a while a way but just look at the way London uses private hire hacks to cover app jobs.
The biggest, Addison Lee is up for sale.
Lost 20 Million last year.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 14, 2019, 10:47:03 am
Uber is the biggest PH firm in London these days, SB... try to keep up!
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 14, 2019, 10:49:41 am
Addison did the required damage.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 14, 2019, 10:50:24 am
Griffen done well out of it... I still he's still running it too.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: The Liffey Lip on February 14, 2019, 10:59:59 am
Teresa May's hubby involved too.........on the periphery of course.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Korky on February 14, 2019, 02:28:04 pm
Looks like the reality of Uber is ever closer, time to deplete any little savings you may have in credit union or bank, I think worrying about a tax audit is irrelevant now, more likely to be means tested for social welfare within the next 2-3 years and they will want to see your financial records for at least 12 months. I’ll be paying for every thing by card and taping it for every coffee.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on February 14, 2019, 02:53:07 pm
I would'nt be worried about what some parish pump muck savage down the bog is saying.
did'nt the heely rays say a couple of years ago that a license to drink drive would be a good idea.
like fucking father ted.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Korky on February 14, 2019, 03:00:26 pm
I would'nt be worried about what some parish pump muck savage down the bog is saying.
did'nt the heely rays say a couple of years ago that a license to drink drive would be a good idea.
like fucking father ted.

It’s not the muck savage that worries me, it’s the mft (Shane Ross) agreeing and suggesting that this will solve the rural transport difficulties and asking Uber for detailed proposals.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: mercenary for hire on February 14, 2019, 03:06:41 pm
I hope they do it sooner rather than later.I'll not be reinvesting in a newnmotor if any of this crap makes it anywhere near Dublin.No way I'm going back to working 14 hour days.
Title: Re: Cork TD leading the Uber charge in rural areas.
Post by: Rat Catcher on February 14, 2019, 04:17:46 pm
How else is mytaxi going to cover HSE work? If it could give 22% to volunteer taxi firms like the Kerry example HSE would get a 22% discount and it might be able to cover the rest with it's fleet of taxis, hackneys and "limousines"... maybe combined with some commercial P2P rideshare or Local Area Hackneys.