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Title: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 12, 2019, 06:32:41 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/the-brexodus-dublin-attracting-big-business-from-the-city-of-london-1.3821678 (https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/the-brexodus-dublin-attracting-big-business-from-the-city-of-london-1.3821678)

The Brexodus: Dublin attracting big business from the City of London

Irish capital is ‘clear winner’, as 100 companies open offices in Dublin, report finds

Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 12:32 Updated: Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 16:46
Colin Gleeson

Dublin is in “a league of its own” when it comes to attracting business from the UK with at least 100 companies choosing the city as a post-Brexit location, according to a new report.

Compiled by New Financial, a think tank, the report – called Brexit & the City – the Impact So Far – examines the effect the UK’s impending exit from the European Union has had on London’s financial centre to date.

More than 5,000 financial firms in the UK use passporting to access the EU, and, without a withdrawal deal to secure the UK’s orderly exit, they will lose this access unless they set up a new entity in the EU.

The report identifies 269 financial services groups in the UK that have responded to Brexit in some way by relocating part of their business, staff, or legal entities to the EU.
Dublin emerges as “the clear winner”, with 100 choosing the Irish capital as a post-Brexit location. This represents 30 per cent of all the moves identified.

The city is also well ahead of its nearest rivals, with Luxembourg on 60 firms, Paris with 41, Frankfurt on 40, and Amsterdam on 32. “We expect these numbers to increase significantly in the near future,” the report states.

The report finds that banks have moved, or are moving, about £800 billion (€934 billion) in assets from the UK to the EU, which represents nearly 10 per cent of the entire UK banking system.

Insurance firms are moving tens of billions of assets, and asset managers have transferred more than £65 billion in funds.

Many large firms have had their new entities in the EU up and running for months, and having spent tens or hundreds of millions of pounds on their contingency plans are not going to relocate business back to the UK anytime soon, the report argues.

A new post-Brexit EU hub

It also identifies almost 5,000 expected staff moves or local hires in response to Brexit, but says this is from “only a small minority of firms” and that this number would “increase significantly” in the next few years.

“Dublin is in a league of its own when it comes to attracting business from the UK,” it says.

“We identified 100 firms that are relocating part of their business to or boosting their presence in the Irish capital, of which 86 have chosen Dublin as their main post-Brexit EU hub.

“We think there are more to come: the Central Bank of Ireland has said that it has received ‘well over’ 100 applications as a result of Brexit, and a sensible short-term estimate might be closer to 150.”

The report says Dublin’s main attraction is its common language, single supervisory structure and expertise, close ties with the UK financial sector, the liveability of Dublin itself, and its role as an established financial centre.

“This is reflected in Dublin’s dominant position in terms of attracting asset managers, hedge funds and private equity firms,” it says.

“Over a third of the firms choosing Dublin as their main EU hub are asset managers, and this rises to just over half when you include hedge funds and private equity.”

Dublin has also attracted two of the biggest moves in the banking sector, with Barclays and Bank of America Merrill Lynch choosing the city as their EU hub.
Between them, they have transferred £200 billion in assets to the Republic along with 250 staff.

Big insurance firms including Aviva and Phoenix Life have also transferred significant chunks of business to Dublin, moving £30 billion in assets.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 12, 2019, 08:14:17 PM
Its all bollox Rodent as soon as the Brits get their deal or crash out then ALL of these jobs will return to the British tax haven .The Gay Foreigner will get fucked but not in the way he likes when Mr Merkel of Furer Macron tell him they stuck with us now we have to stick with them and accept a universal corporate tax rate .Then the low life Irish scumbags who have been helping the worlds wealthiest companies cheat their taxes get rightly fucked .Irish Scumbag Politicians actually dont grab the tax for the Irish people they hand it over to the likes of Apple ,Google et al .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2019, 12:29:49 AM
Maybe so, erm... but they win a decent few notes on the horses into the bargain, your honour!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on March 13, 2019, 03:00:09 PM
Its all bollox Rodent as soon as the Brits get their deal or crash out then ALL of these jobs will return to the British tax haven .The Gay Foreigner will get fucked but not in the way he likes when Mr Merkel of Furer Macron tell him they stuck with us now we have to stick with them and accept a universal corporate tax rate .Then the low life Irish scumbags who have been helping the worlds wealthiest companies cheat their taxes get rightly fucked .Irish Scumbag Politicians actually dont grab the tax for the Irish people they hand it over to the likes of Apple ,Google et al .
The people they employ here pay the taxes.
And those people vote.
The Tech Giants dont pay taxes, preferring the role of Philanthropy, which of course is further tax deductible.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 03:20:45 PM
Its all bollox Rodent as soon as the Brits get their deal or crash out then ALL of these jobs will return to the British tax haven .The Gay Foreigner will get fucked but not in the way he likes when Mr Merkel of Furer Macron tell him they stuck with us now we have to stick with them and accept a universal corporate tax rate .Then the low life Irish scumbags who have been helping the worlds wealthiest companies cheat their taxes get rightly fucked .Irish Scumbag Politicians actually dont grab the tax for the Irish people they hand it over to the likes of Apple ,Google et al .
The people they employ here pay the taxes.
And those people vote.
The Tech Giants dont pay taxes, preferring the role of Philanthropy, which of course is further tax deductible.

Not in Ireland Silver about 80% of Tech workers dont have a vote in Ireland .When the tax fiddle no longer negates the high wage cost in Ireland The Tech firms will move and so will their staff  & euro for a pint in Temple Bar same pint is a Buck and a bit in Lisbon or Saville .and rent is lower so pay less buy more .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 03:42:02 PM
Im a bit slow in my understanding,but could somebody explain this to me. All the talk in the house of commons now,is wether or not to leave with,or without a deal. But if there is no other deal on offer except tessys (-which they have rejected  twice) then what other deal  are they talking about ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 03:48:42 PM
Im a bit slow in my understanding,but could somebody explain this to me. All the talk in the house of commons now,is wether or not to leave with,or without a deal. But if there is no other deal on offer except tessys (-which they have rejected  twice) then what other deal  are they talking about ?

 Brits are tiddling the belly of Europe .Brits want a deal but they want their deal .They will vote not to leave without a deal then Tessies deal will be voted on again only next time the Loyalist scum will be aware British Government will sell them out and bankrupt the Loyalist base and Reese Mogg and the semi literate wing will have two choices support Tessy or no Brexit ..This is a Chess Game nobody wants to lose so the Draw looks most likely result unless Tessy gets the hump and goes to the Queen and calls a shock General Election .Anyway Brits and the EU will punish the Irish for wrecking Brexit for everybody even though they both wanted us to wreck it .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 03:59:42 PM
Do you think a delay is now inevitable ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 04:03:58 PM
Do you think a delay is now inevitable ?

Yes EU will fold unless Spain who are having an election say no .Gibraltar might be a vote winner in Spain ,it could still all go wrong for the Brits .I hope it dosent ,I hate political violence or Wars only the little man suffers while the big man profiteers .These are Dangerous times .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 04:09:11 PM
The brits have to have a really good reason for seeking a delay,otherwise they might not grant it
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 04:11:14 PM
The brits have to have a really good reason for seeking a delay,otherwise they might not grant it

EU would snap their hands off for a delay .I wonder why the EU say they might not offer them a delay thats why I think the Spanish might not want to agree .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 04:21:29 PM
I think any request for a delay ,has to be unanimous ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 04:29:21 PM
I think any request for a delay ,has to be unanimous ?

It does but will Spain agree .General Election in Spain Gibraltar could be used as an election issue so Spain might tell them to fuck off and refuse an extension .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 05:29:45 PM
I hope so
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2019, 05:45:34 PM
Im a bit slow in my understanding,but could somebody explain this to me. All the talk in the house of commons now,is wether or not to leave with,or without a deal. But if there is no other deal on offer except tessys (-which they have rejected  twice) then what other deal  are they talking about ?

Long story short:
If the Prime Minister (Taoiseach) and the civil servants get their way it'll be a long delay. Britain will take part in upcoming Euro elections and a second referendum will result in remain. If the leader of the opposition gets his way the deal negotiated by the Prime Minister (Taoiseach) will be passed (perhaps subject to a little inconsequential tweaking/rewording) after a short or long delay, as the case may be.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on March 13, 2019, 05:47:00 PM
They should nuke Europe.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2019, 05:48:49 PM
It's the best piece of comedy never written, DM. The leader of the opposition wants the deal, no doubt about that, but can't cross the floor and the Prime Minister (Taoiseach) who brought the deal to the house would be horrified to see it implemented.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 05:51:45 PM
If GB leaves the EEC willBritish workers go back to wearing flat caps and black and white telly .Will football supporters be allowed to stand at matches but more important will Top of The Pops be back on the BBC on Thursday .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 05:59:50 PM
But I keep coming back to the point I have been making,and it is this.if ,as you say it results in a second referendum,and the result is remain,do they honestly think the leave crowd will just accept it and die ?  How can they possibly think they would get away  with it
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2019, 06:01:26 PM
Remains to be seen... remains, see what I done there!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on March 13, 2019, 06:04:23 PM
Remains to be seen... remains, see what I done there!
Brilliant! 8)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2019, 06:07:14 PM
I have myself in stitches... oops, now I'm after your limelight!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 06:11:31 PM
Rat catcher appearing tonite in the laughter lounge NOT
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 06:13:45 PM
4/1 a hard border GET ON .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 06:16:45 PM
Another thing I cant understand is,tessxy said all along she would not take no deal off the table. Infact when Corbyn challenged her to do it she wouldnt entertain him.now she has done a complete about turn,and tonight will vote to take it off the table
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 06:24:35 PM
Another thing I cant understand is,tessxy said all along she would not take no deal off the table. Infact when Corbyn challenged her to do it she wouldnt entertain him.now she has done a complete about turn,and tonight will vote to take it off the table


Ill try again Reese mog and his shower want no deal loyalist scum dont know what they want .So by removing no dealand free trade with the south she is threatening bankruptcy for the loylists and possibly no brexit for the Moggies .So they are more likely to support her deal when it comes up again .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 06:34:03 PM
Dollymount they say no tarriffs on goods from the south so that undermines ulster companies .The Irish have to impose tarriffs on Brit imports so that also undermined Ulster business .The Loyalists dont want that no deal deal .

The Moggies would prefer a bad deal rather than no Brexit .

Irish will have to put up a border to prevent smuggling Republic dont want that .

May  just played her  Joker
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 06:36:59 PM
I just do not understand what I said previously,and I know you replied ,but I STILL  dont understand this.they will vote tonight to take no deal off the table ,as they want to leave with a deal right ? But the EU have said there is no deal available except tessys, so WHAT FUKKING DEAL ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT ,there is nothing else available ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 06:49:15 PM
I just do not understand what I said previously,and I know you replied ,but I STILL  dont understand this.they will vote tonight to take no deal off the table ,as they want to leave with a deal right ? But the EU have said there is no deal available except tessys, so WHAT FUKKING DEAL ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT ,there is nothing else available ?


You typed the answer EXCEPT TESSYS .that will be passed on the third occasion .If not then Extending article 50 means no Brexit and if there is a general election the loyalist scum could lose their leverage and Labour might get elected .The deal on offer is better thanno deal or no Brexit at all .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 06:52:18 PM
Well I defo would have accepted tessys deal,even the first time round simply because it stops free movement
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 06:54:25 PM
Well I defo would have accepted tessys deal,even the first time round simply because it stops free movement

FFS it dosent restrict free movement flick through it and show me where it restricts free movement i would be interested to know .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2019, 06:57:09 PM
The Norn Ironers voted overwhelmingly to remain, erm... so, at the end of the day, when all's said and done, they're on the same side as the British Prime Minister (Taoiseach). Maybe there's a case for each count(r)y of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Norn Iron to legislate for it's own future within Europe or not, as the case may be?

I see the mistake you're making, DM. You're confusing what they say with what they mean.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 07:02:58 PM
Dollymount I would bet Mays deal is put forward for avote again next week .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 07:04:00 PM
John have you not read the bullet points of tessys deal ?
It clearly states taking back control of the money,the laws,and their borders
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 07:08:35 PM
John have you not read the bullet points of tessys deal ?
It clearly states taking back control of the money,the laws,and their borders

 No it dosent .Your listening to Moggy and Co and their wish list .This deal is only the divorce bill the actual deal on the future is not even being discussed yet .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2019, 07:08:58 PM
Control doesn't mean building a wall, DM. There was provision for unspecified reciprocal arrangements with the EU and others.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 07:10:14 PM
John  just this very minute,the BBC  broadcaster remarked during the course of his broadcast,that Marine Le Pen is only 1 point behind in the french polls. I know your views on her,but I think she has an excellent chance
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 07:12:36 PM
John  just this very minute,the BBC  broadcaster remarked during the course of his broadcast,that Marine Le Pen is only 1 point behind in the french polls. I know your views on her,but I think she has an excellent chance

So what European Elections are a protest for clowns we have Ming the Junkie even Ukip could win euro seats in GB yet never got a MP elected .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 07:20:17 PM
Betting now changed  My bet is May calls a General Election she just lost control of Parliament .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 07:25:38 PM
I give up on ppredictions,but the pundits are saying this loss is not that important,as it is not legally binding
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
I give up on ppredictions,but the pundits are saying this loss is not that important,as it is not legally binding

May or the conservatives cannot pass any act on Brexit so General Election ,Another Referendum +war .Only thing left is accept Mays Deal or General Election .BUT imagine a Taoiseach bringing down her own government .What you are watching is Democracy in action ,letting people vote on stuff .If Big Dommo was Prime Minister he would sort this out by tossing a coin .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 07:35:01 PM
No John what im watch is certainly NOT democracy.in fact its the very opposite of democracy . 17'4  million British people gave an  intsruction  to their public representatives to implement brexit.they have faile to do so.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 07:39:40 PM
No John what im watch is certainly NOT democracy.in fact its the very opposite of democracy . 17'4  million British people gave an  intsruction  to their public representatives to implement brexit.they have faile to do so.

More people than that voted to elect MPs and gave them the right to vote on their behalf .You cannot choose which sort of democracy suits you when it dosent suit you .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 07:40:12 PM
I love listening to Reese Mogg speaking in his ever so posh voice.I'd probably hate the cunt if he was a remainer though
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 07:43:35 PM
I have to admit you could be right in your analysis. It looks like the brexiteers might bebe forced into accepting yessys deal
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 07:46:16 PM
I have to admit you could be right in your analysis. It looks like the brexiteers might bebe forced into accepting yessys deal

Dangerous times people dont like blackmail cant see how the Government can survive .If they whip the party to vote and there is a split .May might go nuclear and suspend Parliament until April and crash out with no deal.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Bob Shillin on March 13, 2019, 07:49:55 PM
The Norn Ironers voted overwhelmingly to remain, erm... so, at the end of the day, when all's said and done, they're on the same side as the British Prime Minister (Taoiseach). Maybe there's a case for each count(r)y of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Norn Iron to legislate for it's own future within Europe or not, as the case may be?

I see the mistake you're making, DM. You're confusing what they say with what they mean.
There was a guy on the wireless yesterday, who seemed to know what he was talking about, and he was certain that Tess voted leave, no matter what she says, he gave a load of reasons to back up his belief.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Dangerous times people dont like blackmail cant see how the Government can survive .If they whip the party to vote and there is a split .May might go nuclear and suspend Parliament until April and crash out with no deal.

April 1st?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2019, 07:55:28 PM
There was a guy on the wireless yesterday, who seemed to know what he was talking about, and he was certain that Tess voted leave, no matter what she says, he gave a load of reasons to back up his belief.

He could be right... in which case I must be confusing what she said with what she meant.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 13, 2019, 07:57:23 PM
Interesting that she spelt out that a second referendum risks a remain outcome during this evening's debate. Rules out the possibility of a referendum concentrating on leave options, I guess.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 08:06:27 PM
4 cabinet ministers refused to vote for their government and Corbyn didnt go for a no confidence vote in the government who since the indipendent Group was formed have no majority .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Vikkiz on March 13, 2019, 09:39:23 PM
If Brexit happens,
The EU will impose on us, that we drive on the right side of the road and drive left hand vehicles. We would be the only EU country not to do it.

Plus it might make importing cars cheaper
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 09:58:42 PM
Tat fukking idiot donnie cassidy proposed that years ago.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Vikkiz on March 13, 2019, 10:14:53 PM
Well instead of a few countries that we can import cars from we would have a whole lot more to choose from
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 10:21:47 PM
Our homosexual Taoiseach has no interest in politics only social change .Things like Gay marrage divorce abortion he dosent give a fuck about the price of milk or homelessness or how mucth you can charge to build a wall same as the other useless cunt he wants to fuck in Canada It has never been more important we have a strong Taoiseach and Veradkar is not it .We are linked to the Brits by history and more ,but the Gay fuctard decided to support the EU .That is a huge bet if brexit goes wrong as in they crash out the biggest losers will be the Republic of Ireland if the EU win then they will beat the shit out of us with universal tax .It is my greatest wish people will see Veradkar as a Traitor  he  is .A Brexit crash out will bankrupt Ireland  leo could of played possum and let both sides work it out but instead he had to keep turning up like a fucking intillectually deformed tailors dummy .Like Collins a totally useless Traitor and when he gets shot dead as a traitor I will celebrate .Hestood up for Europe not for Ireland .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 13, 2019, 11:10:31 PM
Jeez John,strong words indeed
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 13, 2019, 11:27:25 PM
Veradkar is the worst Taoiseach this country ever had and possiblt the worst politician .all he cares about is social change . more people homeless or hopeless in Ireland since this self serving sodomite got elect.I will never vote again in Ireland .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 14, 2019, 01:22:25 AM
I have to say,im not entirely sympathetic towards ALL of the homeless.I actually do believe some of the reports I have heard where some have refused houses because they were not near their ma,or they  were not on a particular bus root etc etc
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 14, 2019, 11:12:39 AM
I have to admit you could be right in your analysis. It looks like the brexiteers might bebe forced into accepting yessys deal

Dangerous times people dont like blackmail cant see how the Government can survive .If they whip the party to vote and there is a split .May might go nuclear and suspend Parliament until April and crash out with no deal.

Donald Tusk........European Council president Donald Tusk indicated that the EU may be ready to offer a lengthy extension to negotiations if the UK wants to “rethink its Brexit strategy and build consensus around it”.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Jack Meoff on March 14, 2019, 11:16:17 AM
A lot are the hand out brigade, expect everything for free.
Free crib, medical card, get the kids picked up by taxi to bring them to school.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 14, 2019, 12:11:09 PM
The homeless figures are definitely distorted to some extent by those playing the system. I regularly collect mytaxi clients from houses in the northside suburbs and bring them to hotels or other "emergency" accommodation where they spend the night to give themselves a chance of winning some sort of house as the crisis is addressed. These aren't people who would be sleeping on the street, they're generally youngsters (generally with kids of their own) living with their parents... they can afford the taxi fare so they're a long way from destitute. However, most of them are either unemployed or in low paid jobs so it's probably the only way they'll ever get a house of their own.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 14, 2019, 12:14:17 PM
It's not just our own,I've spoken to Polish girls in the car who are on the same housing list.If I was starting out fresh tomorrow I'd probably go on the list myself.Get a corpo gaff and buy it at a significant discount.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on March 14, 2019, 01:37:35 PM
The homeless figures are definitely distorted to some extent by those playing the system. I regularly collect mytaxi clients from houses in the northside suburbs and bring them to hotels or other "emergency" accommodation where they spend the night to give themselves a chance of winning some sort of house as the crisis is addressed. These aren't people who would be sleeping on the street, they're generally youngsters (generally with kids of their own) living with their parents... they can afford the taxi fare so they're a long way from destitute. However, most of them are either unemployed or in low paid jobs so it's probably the only way they'll ever get a house of their own.
Where can I buy tickets for the free house lottery?

Plenty of shuttered houses around Snowdrop Walk, but the scammers want to choose where their free house is.
If you have a deposit you buy only where you can afford.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 14, 2019, 01:42:53 PM
A family on minimum wage can't afford anywhere, not even Leitrim.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on March 14, 2019, 01:47:12 PM
A family on minimum wage can't afford anywhere, not even Leitrim.
How about reception centres for those in lower socio-economic groups?
It works for Darkies!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 14, 2019, 01:48:45 PM
It's not just our own,I've spoken to Polish girls in the car who are on the same housing list.If I was starting out fresh tomorrow I'd probably go on the list myself.Get a corpo gaff and buy it at a significant discount.

30 years to late ,they sell them now at market value maximum discount is 10%
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 14, 2019, 01:57:16 PM
How about reception centres for those in lower socio-economic groups?
It works for Darkies!

Not far off what investors are proposing for Professionals up above in Dublin - purpose built blocks of bedsits equipped with shared kitchens/bathrooms/recreational areas... A steal at €1,500/month!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on March 14, 2019, 02:00:56 PM
How about reception centres for those in lower socio-economic groups?
It works for Darkies!

Not far off what investors are proposing for Professionals up above in Dublin - purpose built blocks of bedsits equipped with shared kitchens/bathrooms/recreational areas... A steal at €1,500/month!
The poor unfortunates are willing to pay upwards of  €33.00 A week  for their new homes. HAP will pay the balance. .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on March 14, 2019, 06:47:34 PM
http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/03/14/meet-the-people-who-went-insane-trying-to-follow-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR2xE_-Qsgurqtj7C0VioB1Ycsw12wjjalo5zzlyVJWLUbl01D-C935zcHE (http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/03/14/meet-the-people-who-went-insane-trying-to-follow-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR2xE_-Qsgurqtj7C0VioB1Ycsw12wjjalo5zzlyVJWLUbl01D-C935zcHE)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Vikkiz on March 14, 2019, 07:59:16 PM
A lot are the hand out brigade, expect everything for free.
Free crib, medical card, get the kids picked up by taxi to bring them to school.
I can’t understand why some kids get taxis to school. The parents are well able to bring them so why does the government, through Bus Eireann, through taxis, bring them in?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Vikkiz on March 14, 2019, 08:02:00 PM
If Brexit happens,
The EU will impose on us, that we drive on the right side of the road and drive left hand vehicles. We would be the only EU country not to do it.

Plus it might make importing cars cheaper
I also predict that Ireland will advance their clocks 1 hour to be more in line with Europe, Spain and Portugal are directly below us and they are 1 hour ahead.

That would be another F you to England from EU
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on March 15, 2019, 08:58:10 AM
If Brexit happens,
The EU will impose on us, that we drive on the right side of the road and drive left hand vehicles. We would be the only EU country not to do it.

Plus it might make importing cars cheaper
I also predict that Ireland will advance their clocks 1 hour to be more in line with Europe, Spain and Portugal are directly below us and they are 1 hour ahead.

That would be another F you to England from EU

Probebly make us speak German as well
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Vikkiz on March 15, 2019, 07:59:34 PM
Probebly make us speak German as well
Nah, they need an English speaking country to be able to speak to the English and the Americans
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 18, 2019, 03:53:31 PM
Speaker of the House of Commons just told Tessy to Fuck off if she thinks they are going to vote on her deal again .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 18, 2019, 04:49:29 PM
First the AG throws a spanner in the works,now the speaker does the same,you could forgive her for thinking they are out to get her,and stop brexit.what happens now I wonder ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 18, 2019, 05:00:12 PM
Has there just been a Coup bu the Speaker .What he has done is ruled the Government cannot govern .Dont be surprised to see the National Front hold a big Demmo this weekend just to let Tessy know whats in store if they think there is a sell out .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 18, 2019, 09:21:47 PM
Speaker of the House of Commons just told Tessy to Fuck off if she thinks they are going to vote on her deal again .

They voted twice and gave the wrong answer, why can't they vote a third time?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Vikkiz on March 18, 2019, 09:28:30 PM
Speaker of the House of Commons just told Tessy to Fuck off if she thinks they are going to vote on her deal again .

They voted twice and gave the wrong answer, why can't they vote a third time?
At least we gave them the result they wanted the 2nd time around
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 18, 2019, 09:33:40 PM
Indeed, no reason the British Prime Minister (Taoiseach) won't get the correct answer from the house next time round... or maybe she already has the answer she wants? It's hard to see how they can avoid a second referendum now.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 18, 2019, 10:18:30 PM
Indeed, no reason the British Prime Minister (Taoiseach) won't get the correct answer from the house next time round... or maybe she already has the answer she wants? It's hard to see how they can avoid a second referendum now.

Did they not vote not tohave a second referendum already yer man has laid down the law so how can they vote again on voting again
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 19, 2019, 09:34:10 AM
Its so confusing that both the remainers,and the brexiteers are claiming its good for them
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 19, 2019, 10:41:16 AM
The Brits are very confused it seems:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/discover/english-council-apologises-for-flying-welsh-flag-on-st-patricks-day-911774.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/discover/english-council-apologises-for-flying-welsh-flag-on-st-patricks-day-911774.html)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 19, 2019, 01:44:50 PM
The second referendum amendment put forward by the Scotch was defeated largely by Labour's abstention... the Kyle-Wilson motion will be the real vote, erm. There are still a number of mechanisms available to facilitate a third (and not necessarily final) vote on May's deal. The house could overrule the speaker or HRH could be called upon to start a new session of parliament. I'd say whoever fills Sir Humphrey's shoes in the real world arena of today panicked a bit thinking the third vote might pass hence the speaker's intervention.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 19, 2019, 02:30:16 PM
I would like to know,who does the speakers ruling actually favour remainers,or brexiteers.both sides claiming victory ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 19, 2019, 02:35:05 PM
Remainers - long delay - Euro elections - new referendum.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 19, 2019, 02:35:19 PM
I would like to know,who does the speakers ruling actually favour remainers,or brexiteers.both sides claiming victory ?

Remainers think there wont be another vote and leavers think there wont be another vote but on two different issues he said you cannot vote again on something you already voted on Mays deal was voted on but so to was holding a second referendum and that was defeated .Dont think they will suspend parliament that would involve Betty 2 and she dosent want to play politics .What if the DUP were to table Mays Deal ?They are not the government ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 19, 2019, 03:44:06 PM
If it was tabled incorporating the Kyle-Wilsom amendment it would differ substantially to the previous Bills and it would pass.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 19, 2019, 03:57:32 PM
What is the kyle Wilson motion ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 19, 2019, 04:19:21 PM
Was just thinking to meself,there is no guarantee that the. EU 27 will grant an extension 
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 19, 2019, 07:48:22 PM
Was just thinking to meself,there is no guarantee that the. EU 27 will grant an extension

SPAIN might not want to be seen helping out their lodgers in  Gibraltar .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on March 19, 2019, 08:03:29 PM
SPAIN might not want to be seen helping out their lodgers in  Gibraltar .

Spain might like it if the UK brexits.  Currently, the EU has to be impartial between the two.  After Brexit, it's the EU27 against the solitary UK.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 19, 2019, 08:06:34 PM
General Election comming up in Spain country is in shit due to Catalan Sepratists .It might suit them to unite against a common enemy like the UK .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 19, 2019, 10:00:12 PM
Nigel Farage says he will actively canvass member states not to grant an extention,he might be pushing an open door with some of them  well hopefully anyway
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 20, 2019, 07:11:43 AM
It(Brexit) must be going to happen if Alan Partridge is allowed do a skit version of Men behind the wire and Come out ye Black n Tans on prime-time BBC.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 20, 2019, 01:38:45 PM
What is the kyle Wilson motion ?

A Labour amendment/motion facilitating approval of the Prime Minister's (Taoiseach's) deal or something similar subject to ratification via a referendum. The Prime Minister (Taoiseach) has already suggested that any such referendum must include a remain option.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 21, 2019, 09:28:18 AM
Here is an interesting question.it is expected that the EU  27-will grant a short term extension to brexit.but my question is,supposing  they dont,what happens then ? Nigel Farage says he will ask them not to grant it,so do they just crash out on the 29th of March without a deal ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 21, 2019, 09:37:23 AM
The Brits invented political skulduggery and imposed their admiralty law everywhere throughout their imperialistic reign....Macron is the huge thorn in their side as he represents private, elitist interests.... May will have to get out before she is taken out.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 21, 2019, 09:47:57 AM
But that doesnt answer my question lippy,what happens if they do not grant an extension,its unlikely that they wont,but what happens if they dont ? For instance supposing France were to say,no exextension,do the UK just ctash out on 29 th ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 21, 2019, 09:57:25 AM
Sorry, Dalyer, but as far as I understand it the Brits will be afforded an extension.......the rest is just arseholes grandstanding before the MEP elections. If it(crash out) happens, I'll strip naked in front of Montrose/RTE with a picture of Panti Bliss glued to my hoop.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on March 21, 2019, 10:01:23 AM
Sorry, Dalyer, but as far as I understand it the Brits will be afforded an extension.......the rest is just arseholes grandstanding before the MEP elections. If it(crash out) happens, I'll strip naked in front of Montrose/RTE with a picture of Panti Bliss glued to my hoop.
I hope it happens, cant wait to see the expression on Patti's picture
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 21, 2019, 10:02:09 AM
Can I hold you to that lippy ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 21, 2019, 10:03:04 AM
Get those cameras rolling out montrose way
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 21, 2019, 10:03:42 AM
I'll do it as I said....for the record it's Panti and not Patti, Stoney (Mr). I'm shaving my fanny later just in case.


Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on March 21, 2019, 10:07:53 AM
I'll do it as I said....for the record it's Panti and not Patti, Stoney (Mr). I'm shaving my balls later just in case.
Up until now all this Brexit shite has been very boring , I'm now a keen follower of the outcome.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 21, 2019, 10:27:42 AM
It's still boring...when the kids are reading this in the history books/tablets it will be all written off as intense negotiations.No self-respecting teacher would be bothering their holes trawling through every single detail.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 21, 2019, 10:50:20 AM
Down with the EU,careful now
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 21, 2019, 10:52:11 AM
Kids don't read history books or look it up on Tablets, so nothing lost or gained. The upshot of this whole sham is how easily democracy(lite) can be subverted by those wielding power.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 21, 2019, 10:56:02 AM
But that doesnt answer my question lippy,what happens if they do not grant an extension,its unlikely that they wont,but what happens if they dont ? For instance supposing France were to say,no exextension,do the UK just ctash out on 29 th ?

If they refuse a short extension I guess there are two alternatives i.e. to suggest/grant a longer extension or to grant no extension. The short extension sought is to the end of June while it is thought a longer extension would be the end of May... see what I did there!

The British Prime Minister (Taoiseach) has clearly succumbed to the stress of it all, the dear lady has obviously lost her marbles. Last week she outlined how a third defeat for her deal would result in a long extension and, ultimately, another referendum. This week she has ruled out a long extension, at least under her stewardship. Maybe she will frame the third motion as options to either accept the deal (Aye) or not reject the deal (No)?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 21, 2019, 11:27:04 AM
Kids get history lessons in school.Anyone studying the detail 30 years after it happened probably has too much time on their hands.It's still unbelievably boring for 99.9% of the population.Its not gonna make a slight bit of difference to the majority of the Irish public.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on March 21, 2019, 11:29:56 AM
Kids get history lessons in school.Anyone studying the detail 30 years after it happened probably has too much time on their hands.It's still unbelievably boring for 99.9% of the population.Its not gonna make a slight bit of difference to the majority of the Irish public.
Yeah but Lip's baldy privates parts may be
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 21, 2019, 11:33:32 AM
Its not gonna make a slight bit of difference to the majority of the Irish public.

How can you say that, MfH?

Bread might go up by 5c.

The British Prime Minister (Taoiseach) has outlined a tariff free regime for goods crossing the land border from ROI into the UK. She hasn't outlined what (if any) controls/checks there will be on people crossing the border and we have no idea of what controls ROI/EU will implement. How complicated will a simple shopping trip to Newry get? Then there's the green cards for driving in the UK, when will they be issued, will they cost us money, etc..?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 21, 2019, 11:45:46 AM
Yous and yer minuscule fukking increases again!.

I've said it before its not like they're gonna drag the UK into the middle of the Atlantic and ignore them.It will be grand they're overdue a big crash anyway.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 21, 2019, 11:49:50 AM
I don't think you're taking this seriously, MfH. Will I have to queue for hours at checkpoints to get my Haggis for Burns Day next year... and will some jumped up jobsworth Dept of Agriculture inspector confiscate it?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on March 21, 2019, 11:50:52 AM
Yous and yer minuscule fukking increases again!.

I've said it before its not like they're gonna drag the UK into the middle of the Atlantic and ignore them.It will be grand they're overdue a big crash anyway.
Could be serious , suppose depend's on much bread you eat ? Agree Rat
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 21, 2019, 12:02:28 PM
Kids get history lessons in school.Anyone studying the detail 30 years after it happened probably has too much time on their hands.It's still unbelievably boring for 99.9% of the population.Its not gonna make a slight bit of difference to the majority of the Irish public.

Ah now...........Hitler was around long before 30 yrs ago ffs....and kids can drop history now at an early stage...bring back the Bros for proper learning.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 21, 2019, 12:03:40 PM
I've already started substituting cream crackers for bread and the weight is falling off me..
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on March 21, 2019, 12:10:52 PM
I've already started substituting cream crackers for bread and the weight is falling off me..
Rotten smell of them Cream Crackers
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 21, 2019, 12:34:42 PM
Will Leo be told to KY jelly  up and take one for the team . Tessy loses her third vote next week the backstop is the issue EU dont really give a Fuck about  Catholics and Prods scrapping in Norn Eireann as much as they do about trade .Germany has imported a million Muslems to build cars in Germany so they will be closing down their car factories in UK no matter what happens .Britain is a broken Society If they stay in they are Fucked if they leave they are fucked either way Leo is Fucked the Brits or the EU will make him pay for not playing both sides against the middle .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 21, 2019, 12:39:20 PM
To be fair, An Taoiseach is calling the shots at the moment. The third vote might pass... maybe with the Kyle-Wilson amendment/motion?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 21, 2019, 12:56:42 PM
No rat,I dont think there is any appetite for a second referendum,although rhe campaign that auld cunt is after starting for the complete revocation  of article 50 is gaining traction
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 21, 2019, 12:58:03 PM
Your man is still giving it socks, Dalyer, outside houses of Parliament...he has some set of lungs on him.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 21, 2019, 01:03:11 PM
Legally they could revoke Article 50 without a second referendum as their referendums don't hold the same legal obligations as ours i.e if we vote to change the constitution it has to be changed. However, politically I don't think revocation without a referendum is realistic. I'd be surprised if a remain decision could be finalised by June 30.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 21, 2019, 01:28:02 PM
Have you noticed the Surnames of some of the Probrexit TDs lot of exotics among them .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 21, 2019, 01:58:30 PM
French Nazi just said if the Brits dont vote for Mays Deal then its No Deal Brexit .Federal Europe does not want the Brits .Federal Europe will arse Rape Leo with Universal Tax Rates ,Water Charges European Army .If the Brits Go we should really consider going as well .Macron interfearing has just upped the stakes .Brits dont doSurrender wont back down to the Loser Frogs .GAME ON TIME TO GET A GUN .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 21, 2019, 02:08:13 PM
Even if there was a second referendum,im not at all sure the people would vote remain.I believe there is just as much resolve to leave now,as there was in 2016 but it would bebe to big a risk for the brexiteers to take
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 21, 2019, 02:15:27 PM
French Nazi just said if the Brits dont vote for Mays Deal then its No Deal Brexit .Federal Europe does not want the Brits .Federal Europe will arse Rape Leo with Universal Tax Rates ,Water Charges European Army .If the Brits Go we should really consider going as well .Macron interfearing has just upped the stakes .Brits dont doSurrender wont back down to the Loser Frogs .GAME ON TIME TO GET A GUN .

Before they raped every citizen, maybe....now it's too late........IMF/ECB own 70% of our assets....those they don't are owned by them under assumed American shell companies.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 21, 2019, 02:16:25 PM
Even if there was a second referendum,im not at all sure the people would vote remain.I believe there is just as much resolve to leave now,as there was in 2016 but it would bebe to big a risk for the brexiteers to take

I agree Dalymount BUT the end game is federalEurope France know they have Britain half way out so they might push them .Macron is a federalist and by pushing the Brits out he is sending a message to other countries .This is getting to a dangerous place .No matter what happens there will be civil unrest in Britain expect a big loss of life and burning down the house .My missus has spent every weekend for the last two months in the UK and she sais you can feel the tension people are pissed off .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 21, 2019, 02:17:49 PM
French Nazi just said if the Brits dont vote for Mays Deal then its No Deal Brexit .Federal Europe does not want the Brits .Federal Europe will arse Rape Leo with Universal Tax Rates ,Water Charges European Army .If the Brits Go we should really consider going as well .Macron interfearing has just upped the stakes .Brits dont doSurrender wont back down to the Loser Frogs .GAME ON TIME TO GET A GUN .

Before they raped every citizen, maybe....now it's too late........IMF/ECB own 70% of our assets....those they don't are owned by them under assumed American shell companies.

ECB is only a shelf company just default on what we owe them they are toothless .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 21, 2019, 02:26:47 PM
Even if there was a second referendum,im not at all sure the people would vote remain.I believe there is just as much resolve to leave now,as there was in 2016 but it would bebe to big a risk for the brexiteers to take

There's probably more support for Leave now that folk realise it's a possibility. The Prime Minister's (Taoiseach's) deal and outline of future relations with Europe will have settled immigrants' fears, many firms have prepared for Brexit and invested in post Brexit infrastructure, etc... However, that still might not be enough to counter an inevitable huge turnout from the remain side. I'm not sure that the resolve of Brexiteers will stretch to backing a future campaign to the same extent, financially, as the previous one. At least one such investor has indicated that he won't.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 21, 2019, 02:35:54 PM
French Nazi just said if the Brits dont vote for Mays Deal then its No Deal Brexit .Federal Europe does not want the Brits .Federal Europe will arse Rape Leo with Universal Tax Rates ,Water Charges European Army .If the Brits Go we should really consider going as well .Macron interfearing has just upped the stakes .Brits dont doSurrender wont back down to the Loser Frogs .GAME ON TIME TO GET A GUN .

Before they raped every citizen, maybe....now it's too late........IMF/ECB own 70% of our assets....those they don't are owned by them under assumed American shell companies.

ECB is only a shelf company just default on what we owe them they are toothless .

Central Bank nations tend to go bust every 10 yrs....no worries as the Aussies told the NZ Blairite....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 21, 2019, 03:40:30 PM
Beginning of the end .Dutch Government just lost control of their Senate .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 21, 2019, 03:42:18 PM
What does that mean,and for who ? Hopefully Gerds Willders will make a comeback
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 21, 2019, 03:47:10 PM
What does that mean,and for who ? Hopefully Gerds Willders will make a comeback

Means the government have no majority in the senate so cant pass laws .Le Penn will do well in the Euro elections .The European Elections are a great protest vote we got Harken Dana the Bird from the Greens and the Junkie from Roscommon .If the Brits drop out and we get extra seats Im going to have a reasonable waget @14/1 Irexit to get a seat .You cannot protest by voting for the left so Right wing parties will flourish in the Euros .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 21, 2019, 03:47:57 PM
The end of us all, Dalyer...we're in the throes of WW3 and John M has us napped to end up sucking cock in Dante's 6th layer of Hell.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 21, 2019, 03:53:11 PM
The end of us all, Dalyer...we're in the throes of WW3 and John M has us napped to end up sucking cock in Dante's 6th layer of Hell.

WW3 has been fought for years no guns no bombs old men like us fighting internet battles while we live genetically remastered existances .Biggest issue for most Brits is Will Utd finish top 4 or who wins Celebrity knit a jumper .In Ireland now we can fuck who we like slaughter unwanted Fuck Mess and get a gargle late we dont give a fuck .Even the level of intillectual debate is Fucked .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 21, 2019, 03:55:22 PM
True, John...even if you read that back to yourself. I blame the Christians.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 21, 2019, 04:12:26 PM
Call it Lip ...I say they go next Friday .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 21, 2019, 04:49:48 PM
John thats a bit of a change for you,only last week you  said Le Pen would not have a chance in a two ticket raffle,now you say shei will do well.regardless of wether or not it is a protest vote,it is radically different to what you said just last week
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 21, 2019, 04:56:53 PM
No idea what's going to happen...I didn't even know that a former RTE reporter from Farming Ireland, or whatever the fuck it's called, was so involved in the Admin section of the E.U....which is Brussels. The fucking MEP's are based in Strasbourg, France or supposed to be. There is a War coming....tins of beans and peas and Aldi water.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 21, 2019, 05:52:38 PM
John thats a bit of a change for you,only last week you  said Le Pen would not have a chance in a two ticket raffle,now you say shei will do well.regardless of wether or not it is a protest vote,it is radically different to what you said just last week


I said Le Penn has no chance of winning the French Presidents election She is a useless hate filler filth mongerer (Is that Clear enough ) But In the European Elections which attract every fucktard ,retard piece od shit look at what we elected a Junkie from Roscommon ,A Mungbean muncher ,And a God Fearer sister of a child abuser give you some sort of  standard of characters that gets elected in the Euros FFS look at that Fool Farage couldnt get elected to his local council but can get elected in Europe .Dollyer I am no fan of Europe but at least they stop our arseholes from bankrupting the country both monetarily and morally .Tessy May is now in total control of our future .A NO DEAL Brexit and we are back to the 1970s .I dont think it was possible for Ireland to have a worse Taoiseach than Leo in place during Brexit he has pandered to the EU and turned his back on the nation we share this island with and Ignored the parts of the Good Friday that unites us all except for the few roads that straddle the border .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 10:08:59 AM
Here is a question for all you educated men .Britain leave with or without a deal .We the IRISH have free movement on the island of Ireland  Britain can check who travels betweenBritain and Norn Eireann at their ports or airports but how do the Irish state uphold international law and protect the UK ie Norn Eireanns from people without visas just walking across the border into the UK .If Leo thinks the British Government are not going to insist that the REpublic build a border to protect themfrom illegal entrants he has another thing coming .Britain only said THEY would not build a border .France will be checking passports at their ports Ireland will be checking at our ports and airports but what about the border how do Ireland uphold international law and prevent illegal entry into the UK from Ireland .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on March 22, 2019, 10:16:00 AM
Here is a question for all you educated men .Britain leave with or without a deal .We the IRISH have free movement on the island of Ireland  Britain can check who travels betweenBritain and Norn Eireann at their ports or airports but how do the Irish state uphold international law and protect the UK ie Norn Eireanns from people without visas just walking across the border into the UK .If Leo thinks the British Government are not going to insist that the REpublic build a border to protect themfrom illegal entrants he has another thing coming .Britain only said THEY would not build a border .France will be checking passports at their ports Ireland will be checking at our ports and airports but what about the border how do Ireland uphold international law and prevent illegal entry into the UK from Ireland .
Fcuk it get in Donny to build a wall
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 10:25:11 AM
The reason I ask is I have a bet ..( Powers are betting 7/1 Hard Border.Border  is defined as physical customs/identity checkpoints to be operational along the land border between The Republic and Northern Ireland. EU or UK must confirm before settlement. .)IDENTITY CHECKPOINTS .Even if that means having to show your passport at a kiosk or on a train crossing the border as long as the inspection happens on the train that crosses the border that should satisfy checkpoint operational along the border .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 10:36:45 AM
If there is a hard Brexit the French customs workers will go on strike for more pay as they will have more work they will also need to build customs posts .might close the tunnell for health and safety reasons while they build ...Trains not to run through the Channel Tunnel for 7 consecutive days or more in 2019 @10/1
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 22, 2019, 10:50:56 AM
Stick to the footie and the horses.... lol
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 11:00:49 AM
Lip I would hope the Brits revoke article 50 but they dont do surrender .The real danger is Political Violence the NF or British Defence League will kick off and like ALL political violence it will splinter .Farage says if there are Euro elections he has a political party ready to contest the vote and they will beat the shit out of the Conservatives and that is the real problem for the Conservatives Farage and Brexiteers take their votes .Britain is a Broken Society so is France .Britain want out of the EU thinking it will solve their problems ,it wont France want Britain out thinking that that brings about a federalEurope and solves their problems ,it wont ,The offer from the EU to the Brits is accept the deal that is what they call Mays deal but it is actually the EUs deal or get out or surrender .As I said the British Do Not Do Surrender .I forsee a Summer of Discontent and serious Violence and disruption in Britain no matter what happens .So My thoughts would be Crash Out either way the Gaff is going to explode .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 22, 2019, 11:03:49 AM
Lip I would hope the Brits revoke article 50 but they dont do surrender .The real danger is Political Violence the NF or British Defence League will kick off and like ALL political violence it will splinter .Farage says if there are Euro elections he has a political party ready to contest the vote and they will beat the shit out of the Conservatives and that is the real problem for the Conservatives Farage and Brexiteers take their votes .Britain is a Broken Society so is France .Britain want out of the EU thinking it will solve their problems ,it wont France want Britain out thinking that that brings about a federalEurope and solves their problems ,it wont ,The offer from the EU to the Brits is accept the deal that is what they call Mays deal but it is actually the EUs deal or get out or surrender .As I said the British Do Not Do Surrender .I forsee a Summer of Discontent and serious Violence and disruption in Britain no matter what happens .So My thoughts would be Crash Out either way the Gaff is going to explode .

Friday, John, I was only having a giraffe..i've no idea what's going to happen.....nobody does. However, I've a few tins of Aldi beans and Lidl peas along with bandages, batteries for me tranny radio and several anti-biotics in stock.....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 11:08:42 AM
Lip there is an undercurrent in Britain Yesterday a few panes of Glass got broken in Mosques in Birmingham News said that  it was being treated as a terrorist attack .So if young Mohammed kick his football through Johnny Smiths window on Cornation Street is that terrorism .Britain is Broken and the French Natzi is stirring the pot .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 22, 2019, 11:22:28 AM
Nobody blinks when it's Christian massacre time..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jhumdzaK3c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jhumdzaK3c)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 11:41:23 AM
History is littered with religious violence from the Romans killing all first born boys through the Crusades the reformation to Germans killing Jews .Reality is none of them were religious wars they were property or land grabs and what we are seeing in France and Britain are land grabs by non Christians or at least that is how it is being portrayed by the land owners ie governments .Just look at Britain and all the anti terrorism legislation being used to opress people .The Boogie Man is coming .You might remember the Troubles between Catholics and Protestants was actually about access to housing in Derry .Imagine if the British Government of the time said to the Loyalists go fuck yourself we respect democracy and will not allow you gerrymander electorial boundries to gain advantage .There would of been no troubles no Good Friday and noneed for a backstop .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 22, 2019, 11:50:33 AM
That Gerry Mander was one right selfish Fenian bastard alright.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 22, 2019, 12:01:08 PM
Palestine 1994....Baruch Goldstein shot many Muslims in a mosque.....not a word nor a headscarf worn by mongs in Europe or Australasia...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on March 22, 2019, 12:03:29 PM
Ireland 2019 - Parnell Street , SC Road etc etc
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 12:12:03 PM
FFS can you believe this .The extention is until the 12 th of April so does that mean midnight on the 11 th or midnight on the 12th they are discussing it now and cannot agree .Is it any wonder the Brits want out .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 22, 2019, 12:25:23 PM
In bookie's terms, the day begins at midnight...so at 12 am on the 12th......you went to bed at 11.55 pm on the 11th.........
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Tony on March 22, 2019, 12:29:14 PM


Got this email from my insurance company today.

Dear Client,

 

We are emailing to advise you of potential changes in the event of a no-deal Brexit that may impact you and/or any named drivers noted on your motor policy.

 

Green Cards

If you plan to use your Irish registered vehicle in Northern Ireland or elsewhere in the UK after the 28th of March 2019, in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit you will require a Green card.

 

If you require a green card we will require a few details and an administration fee of €20.85. You can submit your request by clicking on the following link www.firstireland.ie/payments/index.php (http://www.firstireland.ie/payments/index.php) and selecting ‘Green Card’ from the drop-down options there.

 

This link will allow you to enter your necessary details and make payment by card. We will do our best to process your request as quickly as possible but due to potential high volumes of such requests, it may take up to 14 days to process and issue by post.

 

 

UK Licences

If you or any of your named drivers are a UK licence holder, We want to make you aware of recently published advice from the National Driver Licence Service (NDLS) regarding UK driving licence holders who reside in the Republic of Ireland. We are drawing your attention to this as it contains important information regarding what will happen with UK driving licence holders residing in Ireland in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

 

In summary the NDLS have advised that, in the event of a no-deal Brexit, the driving licence of a UK licence holder living here in Ireland will no longer be recognised and the driver will not be able to continue to drive in Ireland on that licence.

 

The advice from the NDLS is that anyone holding a Full UK driving licence who resides in Ireland should exchange their licence for a Full Irish driving licence before the 29 March 2019, which is set as the withdrawal date of the UK from the EU. Under current arrangements a UK licence holder resident in the Republic of Ireland has an entitlement to make such an exchange, without issue. In this scenario, the driver will have all valid licence categories on their driver licence included on the Irish licence. There are some limited exceptions which can be obtained by contacting the NDLS.

 

To receive more information on the process of exchanging a UK licence, please visit, https://www.ndls.ie/news/149-brexit-update.html. (https://www.ndls.ie/news/149-brexit-update.html.)

 

We would like to also take this opportunity to thank you for your custom as a valued Client of First Ireland.

 

Kind regards,


What do you do if your lucky or unlucky enough to get a run up north?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 12:29:39 PM
Lip they are taking the piss .Which City do you think the Riots will start in,Birmingham must be the Fav but Liverpool must come in for some support North London must also be considered .Leister must also be on the list .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 22, 2019, 12:32:24 PM
Sure I know...great crack though. What was the NZ army doing having a drill on the day of the "attack"?..same happened in London on 7/7...........all a laugh really.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 12:57:48 PM


Got this email from my insurance company today.

Dear Client,

 

We are emailing to advise you of potential changes in the event of a no-deal Brexit that may impact you and/or any named drivers noted on your motor policy.

 

Green Cards

If you plan to use your Irish registered vehicle in Northern Ireland or elsewhere in the UK after the 28th of March 2019, in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit you will require a Green card.

 

If you require a green card we will require a few details and an administration fee of €20.85. You can submit your request by clicking on the following link [url=http://www.firstireland.ie/payments/index.php]www.firstireland.ie/payments/index.php[/url] ([url]http://www.firstireland.ie/payments/index.php[/url]) and selecting ‘Green Card’ from the drop-down options there.

 

This link will allow you to enter your necessary details and make payment by card. We will do our best to process your request as quickly as possible but due to potential high volumes of such requests, it may take up to 14 days to process and issue by post.

 

 

UK Licences

If you or any of your named drivers are a UK licence holder, We want to make you aware of recently published advice from the National Driver Licence Service (NDLS) regarding UK driving licence holders who reside in the Republic of Ireland. We are drawing your attention to this as it contains important information regarding what will happen with UK driving licence holders residing in Ireland in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

 

In summary the NDLS have advised that, in the event of a no-deal Brexit, the driving licence of a UK licence holder living here in Ireland will no longer be recognised and the driver will not be able to continue to drive in Ireland on that licence.

 

The advice from the NDLS is that anyone holding a Full UK driving licence who resides in Ireland should exchange their licence for a Full Irish driving licence before the 29 March 2019, which is set as the withdrawal date of the UK from the EU. Under current arrangements a UK licence holder resident in the Republic of Ireland has an entitlement to make such an exchange, without issue. In this scenario, the driver will have all valid licence categories on their driver licence included on the Irish licence. There are some limited exceptions which can be obtained by contacting the NDLS.

 

To receive more information on the process of exchanging a UK licence, please visit, [url]https://www.ndls.ie/news/149-brexit-update.html.[/url] ([url]https://www.ndls.ie/news/149-brexit-update.html.[/url])

 

We would like to also take this opportunity to thank you for your custom as a valued Client of First Ireland.

 

Kind regards,


What do you do if your lucky or unlucky enough to get a run up north?



I read somewhere that if you do not carry this card and get stopped up in Norn Eireann that they ignore the window sticker as it has no legality up there and just assume you have no insurance and will sieze your vehicle until you pay the fine and prove you have valid insurance .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 22, 2019, 01:02:09 PM
In the "event of a no-deal Brexit". Relax.........they won't reimburse you if you pay now..............Brexit will lead to WW3..........you won't be worried about some Rangers fan looking to make the 1 pm sailing from Larne to Stranraer.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 22, 2019, 01:52:05 PM
Call it Lip ...I say they go next Friday .

Call it want you want... it won't happen.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 22, 2019, 01:59:03 PM
Here is a question for all you educated men .Britain leave with or without a deal .We the IRISH have free movement on the island of Ireland  Britain can check who travels betweenBritain and Norn Eireann at their ports or airports but how do the Irish state uphold international law and protect the UK ie Norn Eireanns from people without visas just walking across the border into the UK .If Leo thinks the British Government are not going to insist that the REpublic build a border to protect themfrom illegal entrants he has another thing coming .Britain only said THEY would not build a border .France will be checking passports at their ports Ireland will be checking at our ports and airports but what about the border how do Ireland uphold international law and prevent illegal entry into the UK from Ireland .

If Brexit proceeds to fruition the level of checks required on the movement of people will largely depend on the British position on immigration regardless of whether there is a formal deal or not. If Britain decides that it will remain open to all EU Citizens as is currently the case it would seem sensible for Europe to maintain it's open door policy in respect of HRH's subjects. In that case no significant controls would be required for travel/relocation between Europe and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 22, 2019, 02:04:36 PM
One for the erm:

Are the British Prime Minister's (Taoiseach's) advisers stone mad or pure geniuses? After her apparent throwing the toys out of the pram in the presidential address the other night we now have a situation where Europe has outlined it's road map for Brexit as exactly what the British Prime Minister (Taoiseach) outlined as her plan before the "hissy fit".

Either way, as I previously suggested, it's the greatest comedy never written.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 03:37:12 PM
One for the erm:

Are the British Prime Minister's (Taoiseach's) advisers stone mad or pure geniuses? After her apparent throwing the toys out of the pram in the presidential address the other night we now have a situation where Europe has outlined it's road map for Brexit as exactly what the British Prime Minister (Taoiseach) outlined as her plan before the "hissy fit".

Either way, as I previously suggested, it's the greatest comedy never written.

The unelected Loyalist and her party told Tessy No Surrender .Two choices left Crash out or revoke article 50 .Tessy is now back in absolute control if she wants out its out if she wants to remain its remain .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 22, 2019, 05:15:22 PM
I see the mistake you're making... you think the puppets are pulling their own strings.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 05:19:05 PM
I dont think Rodent I havent a clue what the fuck they are up to .Its like the hokey cokey in out in out shake it all about .You hear them talking about democracy then two unelected housewives from Norn Eireann and Scotland start calling the shots .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 22, 2019, 05:20:58 PM
If anyone's calling the shots on the Euro side it's An Taoiseach or, perhaps more accurately, his officials... for the leader of such a tiny country it's quite an achievement. He's even put the French back in their bosca.

Sir Humphrey's real world equivalent is running the show in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Norn Iron. You don't need to worry too much about the dear ladies who were elected to lead their parties.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 05:25:18 PM
If anyone's calling the shots it's An Taoiseach or, perhaps more accurately, his officials... for the leader of such a tiny country it's quite an achievement. He's even put the French back in their bosca.

Dont know Rodent Brits wont like it if we fuck up their Brexit French wont like it if we dont .Big losers at the end of this is Ireland .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 22, 2019, 05:26:49 PM
What Brexit?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 22, 2019, 07:14:47 PM
Timing Rodent Timing .The Loyal order of the DUP softened their cough a few days ago after the Bloody Sunday enquiry only charged one token Soldier but today in Birmingham the names of the Birmingham Bombers were revealed in court but only one of them is still alive and he has immunity under the Good Friday agreement within an hour or two of this comming out the DUP tell Tessy May NO SURRENDER and stick your deal .Coincidence or what? Are they playing to their base .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 23, 2019, 10:50:57 AM
It looks like she will not even bring back her deal for the third time because she reckons she does not have the numbers.so what happens now on the 12 th  April ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 23, 2019, 10:53:19 AM
Germans very quiet......busy rifling the E.U. for the last few Euros they can get before it collapses. I'd say a war is most likely and/or a total bank bail-in.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 23, 2019, 10:56:12 AM
It looks like she will not even bring back her deal for the third time because she reckons she does not have the numbers.so what happens now on the 12 th  April ?

 DUP have held her to ransome and it was always going to happen depending on those bigots for power .If she can scare the Brexiteers into thinking its no brexit she still might get it through but what then .If it passes will the DUP throw their toys out of the pram and force a general election .Imbeginning to think May wants to remain and has set it up to fail she will be defeated as PM but history will say she saved Britain from Disaster . There are games being played .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 23, 2019, 11:02:05 AM
Germans very quiet......busy rifling the E.U. for the last few Euros they can get before it collapses. I'd say a war is most likely and/or a total bank bail-in.

  Lip look at the Dax .German economy is in freefall if Donny T puts tarriffs on European Cars the Euro is over .Now is the time for the Brits to leave Europe is at its weakest and they will get a decent deal .The French Nazi is scared shitless that Europe will fall apart and France will be bankrupt .Macron had to make a statement today that he would not shoot Yellow Vest Protesters in Paris .If thats not a Society in trouble .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 23, 2019, 11:04:23 AM
But she is a remainer ,she never denied that.id say if the DUP support her,the ERG ,will come on board.it seems to be all academic now though,because the latest reports suggest she wont even bring the deal back again because she is certain it will be defeated again
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 23, 2019, 11:13:36 AM
But she is a remainer ,she never denied that.id say if the DUP support her,the ERG ,will come on board.it seems to be all academic now though,because the latest reports suggest she wont even bring the deal back again because she is certain it will be defeated again

 BUT the EU said the extension depends on her getting a deal through if there is no deal agreed then its out  or revoke =extend .Also remember the EU have agreed to extend the Brits have not yet voted on extending from this Friday .They are talking about indicative votes but is there anything that Parliament can agree on ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 23, 2019, 11:23:54 AM
I have 3 Panti Bliss photos downloaded in case, but the facts are hard to decipher. Merkel has been a dead duck for the last 18 months; Macron is a banker with dubious affiliations to the Rothschilds in Switzerland; Italy and Spain are ignored by the MSM...........all up in the air, but failure is inevitable...be interesting to see if it lasts past 2020. Gold is hard to come by......
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 23, 2019, 11:25:04 AM
Did ya see the patition the auld wan started for revocation ? Its gaining traction ,near 3000,0000 now
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 23, 2019, 11:27:02 AM
Lipp,forgive I forgot what has to happen in order for you to go to mintrose,please remind me
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 23, 2019, 11:31:07 AM
I have 3 Panti Bliss photos downloaded in case, but the facts are hard to decipher. Merkel has been a dead duck for the last 18 months; Macron is a banker with dubious affiliations to the Rothschilds in Switzerland; Italy and Spain are ignored by the MSM...........all up in the air, but failure is inevitable...be interesting to see if it lasts past 2020. Gold is hard to come by......

Ahead of the 19th Saturday seeing Yellow Vests protests in France, troops have been mobilised to help the police focus on protecting public order in Paris. The military can go as far as opening fire if their life or the life of people they defend are threatened, Gen. Bruno Leray, Paris military governor, said Friday.

French police have banned protests on the Champs-Elysees and in its vicinity, which had been slated to take place this Saturday, 23 March, according to their statement. Similar precautionary measures have been taken by police in the French cities of Nice, Marseille and Metz.Hitler did something simlar against protesters in Germany .Macron is a Nazi .Britain are all that stands between a Federal Europe and freedom .Macron wants them out .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 23, 2019, 11:32:47 AM
Lipp,forgive I forgot what has to happen in order for you to go to mintrose,please remind me

Doubt that....ya bleedin' chancer.....crash out but that was for March 29th....still possible but unlikely...if it happens my bollocks won't matter because there'll be panic and pandemonium everywhere. You only have to ask why the Brits have troops mobilised form 13 countries to assemble for "training" within their national boundaries.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 23, 2019, 11:34:16 AM
Maybe it really is time to get a gun John
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 23, 2019, 11:35:10 AM
http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=9960.0 (http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=9960.0)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 23, 2019, 11:36:16 AM
They say Kodak takes a good photo lippy, see ya on the 29th
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 23, 2019, 11:46:25 AM
Ramping up the pressure?


https://newspunch.com/10-arrested-islamist-plot-kill-germans-cars-guns/
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 23, 2019, 11:51:36 AM
Dollyer Britain is a Broken Society and so is France and emigration is the main cause .After the War both countries invited their colonials to come and help rebuild .They came and discovered the welfare state offering housing medical and money for no effort .Remember these people came from third world countries and this was paradise .The two most generous welfare states were GB and France .Both of these countries are actually failed states Good countries and good people but their governance has failed .Just look at Jerremy Kyle that is a representative sample of modern Britain .Look at the new welfare cuts in Britain ,and France is trying to rip apart its local government workers unions .What is really happening is social engineering .Germany have done it differently they have reduced their wage bill and by default stunted welfare payments by importing over a million migrant workers .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 23, 2019, 12:11:14 PM
Isnt it true to say,that April 12 is D DAY ? The brits have got to male a decision,they are in,or they are out
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 23, 2019, 12:13:01 PM
FYI Dalymount how we done it in Ireland after the banks went broke the government used that to .Reduce the dole from 220 single payment  to a new regime that now has a 2 tier payment systemfor under 21 s and over 25s with a max payment of 188 .There has been a freeze on most welfare payments .We have increased the age limit to claim old age pensions .We even removed lone parent payments from families whos youngest child is over 7 years of age .Changed entitlement to medicalcards .Introduced property tax with no exemptions for welfare or pensioners .Introduced perscription charges and soon to introduce compulsory old age pension contributions .A united States of Europe will mean that there is no advantage to living in any paticular European State as all payments will be the same INCLUDING INCOME TAX and thats the bit will fuck up the Irish economy and thats the price of European Unity .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 23, 2019, 12:19:31 PM
Isnt it true to say,that April 12 is D DAY ? The brits have got to male a decision,they are in,or they are out

NO they can extend as long as they stand in the Euro elections .If they do Farage and his Brexit party will win most seats and undermine the Conservative Party .The only way to save the Conservative party and Britain from a Socialist Labour party that will bankrupt the Banks and economy is for Britain to leave .I will be surprised if they dont leave .Britain is fucked either way .Corbins Britain would be a bigger threat to EU than Brexit as it would motivate the Left throughout Europe and undermine the economy .Macron and Merkel know this and that is why they put the moritorium of 12th on Tessy .They do not want a Corbin led government in the EU .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 23, 2019, 04:01:22 PM
What about this Dalymount .May brings in her deal and Reese Mogg and his mates Filibuster and talk for days about it so there is no time to vote and they crash out at midnight .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 24, 2019, 10:41:44 AM
May is finished, but so is the E.U. and she knows it.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 24, 2019, 10:48:07 AM
May is finished, but so is the E.U. and she knows it.

Not gone yet whoever takes the job inherits the problem .May is playing a stormer she is in absolute control .Its her deal or no brexit its totally up to her .After a bit of ball juggling with options it will become clear there is no agreed position that suits everybody .May gets her deal passed then reshuffels her government kicking out all the back stabbers brings in Mogg and Borris at that stage she has delivered Brexit and let the baboons fight for what deal they want .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 24, 2019, 10:54:46 AM
Some exec of the 1922 committee was on the radio last night outlining how her cabinet can oust her within the 12 month grace period of a previous attempt........it's complicated but can be done. I'm not saying anyone wants to take it on but she's too many mini-wars going on, just as Thatcher had. Difference being, she was brought in to achieve Brexit and nobody near her believes she wants it. There'll be a big incident soon............a really bad one.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 24, 2019, 12:32:55 PM
For a man who is supposed to understand politics I don't get why you seem to think the British Prime Minister (Taoiseach) is in charge, erm. Diplomacy is all about getting the opponent to suggest what you want. Today's Sir Humphrey has given you a text book example in getting Europe to mirror Britain's pre-hissy fit position in it's (Europe's) latest ultimatum.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 24, 2019, 12:44:56 PM
Rodent do you ever look when your watching .All this week the BBC have been broadcasting from Bradford .The islamic capital of Britain they also have a huge amount of ethnic contributors on daily . Is this to antagonise viewers The British Establishment want out .May probably wants remain and is willing to drop on her sword to achieve it .Its up to Tessy which way she goes .She always has the nuclear option of calling a general election .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 25, 2019, 08:43:45 AM
If the commons vote to accept tessys deal this week,does that mean the UK can trade on WTO rules,or are they STILL bound to trade only with the EU ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 25, 2019, 08:48:54 AM
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/mp-tweets-it-is-all-over-for-theresa-may-as-speculation-of-coup-mounts-912901.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/mp-tweets-it-is-all-over-for-theresa-may-as-speculation-of-coup-mounts-912901.html)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 25, 2019, 10:23:40 AM
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/mp-tweets-it-is-all-over-for-theresa-may-as-speculation-of-coup-mounts-912901.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/mp-tweets-it-is-all-over-for-theresa-may-as-speculation-of-coup-mounts-912901.html)

There is no Coup .Boris got done last time by Gove so that rules both of them out Reece Mogg is to clever to be Taoiseach .Leadstrom would eat raw Placents a proper Cunt David Davis is weal So who would they Elect Prime Minister instead of her .It would never be an agreed candidate and all you need to contest the Conservative Party leadership is a proposer and seconder .Imsure most MP have enough dirt on at least two other MPs to force them to support them .Tessy is safe .

 The big thing to remember Tessy has no kids so no  genetic legasy to pass on to posterity .Her Career is her children she will only go if they assassinate her and if they do she will bring the whole lot down with her .She is a dangerous woman and it will be her way or noway .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 25, 2019, 10:25:40 AM
None of them have kids, John..........not one of them.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 25, 2019, 10:30:25 AM
None of them have kids, John..........not one of them.

Reese Mogg was playing with her head yesterday he brought his son with himto the meeting at Checkers .Probably got Tessy to babysit while the lads watched Football or played Canasta .For the first time I cant see where this is going .May might be playing for the remainers or she could be playing for the electorate who want out or she might just be mad .None of this makes any sense any longer .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 25, 2019, 10:34:39 AM
I'd say his kids are as real as Obama's.....Rees-Mogg is a prime candidate for Eton's "wank the biscuit" award.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 25, 2019, 11:51:38 AM
None of them have kids, John..........not one of them.

Reese Mogg was playing with her head yesterday he brought his son with himto the meeting at Checkers .Probably got Tessy to babysit while the lads watched Football or played Canasta .For the first time I cant see where this is going .May might be playing for the remainers or she could be playing for the electorate who want out or she might just be mad .None of this makes any sense any longer .



https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/why-are-so-many-of-our-political-leaders-childless/ (https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/why-are-so-many-of-our-political-leaders-childless/)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 25, 2019, 01:53:13 PM
Apart from all the brexit shite,my Donald is triumphant with the Muller enquiry,and STILL that pair of cunts Nancy let them all in Palosi,and Chuck bleeding heart Shumer wont five up their wichunt against hin
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 25, 2019, 05:23:12 PM
He appeared on Saint and Greavsie in the early 90's, did Donald....drew out the away side in the FA cup draw....Leeds v Man Utd...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRMJ3ftUtnw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRMJ3ftUtnw#)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 25, 2019, 06:01:15 PM
What a great president .I hope he wipes the floor with the open borders democrats
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 27, 2019, 01:01:49 AM
Dalymount .read this ....https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/03/27/not-since-suez-have-we-been-led-by-such-losers/ (https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/03/27/not-since-suez-have-we-been-led-by-such-losers/)     Its hard to believe Britain is this broken ,Time to GET A GUN .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 27, 2019, 07:37:04 AM
Well I would say this to the British parliamentarians who continuously make the case for a second referendum.your case for a second referendum is based on your belief that the leave campaign lied to the electorate with regard.
 to money that would go to the NHS ,and other institutions. Well fundamentally ,the electorate DID NOT vote on the bases of money going,or not going to the NHS,they voted fundamentally on one issue,IMMIGRATION.the British electorate are sick and tired of watching their country being taken over by muslims,Africans,etc etc there are now parts of the UK,that only one language is spoken,and its not English.the brits want their country back,and THAT is why they voted leave.for the EUS part,they have been as devious,and as sneakey as ever in trying to muddy the waters to force them to stay,just luke they made us vote twice on 2 occasions in the past
 
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 27, 2019, 09:06:11 AM
Rees-Mogg will back May if DUP does..........this has to be the biggest sideshow since the Cold War....

https://www.thejournal.ie/dup-theresa-amy-deal-extension-4561684-Mar2019/ (https://www.thejournal.ie/dup-theresa-amy-deal-extension-4561684-Mar2019/)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 27, 2019, 10:37:31 AM
I listened to the Death Throws of British Democracy and by default Democracy as it was the British who gave Parliamentary Democracy to the World .Retards Like Trump ,the Kardashians ,CNN The EU all Popularist movements based on exploiting idiots who were use to exploiting themselves by voting every few years .Reese Mogg ,Boris and some imbread from the 1922 committee telling the World that If May Goes they will vote for her deal .The Fucking stupidity of it is dumbfounding .The Deal is either good or it is bad removing the Personality and replacing her with a different personality wont change the deal .As I have said on numerous occasions Britain is a Broken Society but you aint seen nothing yet .Thousands of British Subjects will die as a result of violence if they feel they are sold out by Parliament .Every anti Europe militant will flood into GB to join the fight against the Opressors of freedom whoever they are percieved to be .Britain will become a battleground for far right extreamists .Britain will be Vanquished by the British .and the Irony of it is that Loyalists from Ulster will vote to make their Queen and Country Subserviant to the EU .The perfect Storm an Idiot Prime Minister residing over a broken Parliament the opposition lead by a Scytsofrenic Marxist.Lennonist Communist whho is so weak and confused about everything he only appears in Parliament with a Token Female blackwoman by his side to look like he is not racist or masoganist and the whole thing being kept togeather by Ten confirmed Bigots from Ulster .

  The ECB today issued a growth warning for the EU AGAIN it obviously dosent work .They also branded Ireland and others moneylaunderers .In what reality would Britain want to remain part of this shambolic mess .TIME TO GET A GUN .The next time the banks go bang and they will Even the UN say the Irish government are forcing people out of their homes to sell debt to vulture funds to promote the banks the only way to bail them out will be to bail the people in .Most people dont know that anything over 100K in the banks is not guarenteed if the bank fails unlike bond holders you lose your coin .

 Today and Tomorrow in the UK will decide the fait of your children ,If the Brits back down then the Unelected Bureucrats have replaced Democracy .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 27, 2019, 11:03:47 AM
I listened to the Death Throws of British Democracy and by default Democracy as it was the British who gave Parliamentary Democracy to the World .Retards Like Trump ,the Kardashians ,CNN The EU all Popularist movements based on exploiting idiots who were use to exploiting themselves by voting every few years .Reese Mogg ,Boris and some imbread from the 1922 committee telling the World that If May Goes they will vote for her deal .The Fucking stupidity of it is dumbfounding .The Deal is either good or it is bad removing the Personality and replacing her with a different personality wont change the deal .As I have said on numerous occasions Britain is a Broken Society but you aint seen nothing yet .Thousands of British Subjects will die as a result of violence if they feel they are sold out by Parliament .Every anti Europe militant will flood into GB to join the fight against the Opressors of freedom whoever they are percieved to be .Britain will become a battleground for far right extreamists .Britain will be Vanquished by the British .and the Irony of it is that Loyalists from Ulster will vote to make their Queen and Country Subserviant to the EU .The perfect Storm an Idiot Prime Minister residing over a broken Parliament the opposition lead by a Scytsofrenic Marxist.Lennonist Communist whho is so weak and confused about everything he only appears in Parliament with a Token Female blackwoman by his side to look like he is not racist or masoganist and the whole thing being kept togeather by Ten confirmed Bigots from Ulster .

  The ECB today issued a growth warning for the EU AGAIN it obviously dosent work .They also branded Ireland and others moneylaunderers .In what reality would Britain want to remain part of this shambolic mess .TIME TO GET A GUN .The next time the banks go bang and they will Even the UN say the Irish government are forcing people out of their homes to sell debt to vulture funds to promote the banks the only way to bail them out will be to bail the people in .Most people dont know that anything over 100K in the banks is not guarenteed if the bank fails unlike bond holders you lose your coin .

 Today and Tomorrow in the UK will decide the fait of your children ,If the Brits back down then the Unelected Bureucrats have replaced Democracy .

Correct aren't they? Ireland, Luxembourg and the Dutch have facilitated laundering for many yrs. Chiraq told Reynolds yrs ago that they'd be found out eventually.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 27, 2019, 11:07:59 AM
The Gay Foreigner has just been warned .You fucked upo brexit now we ae going to fuck you but not in the way you like you low life piece of shit .My money is on takeover by the Germans Dragi goes at the End of the Year and Dont be surprised to see a German head of the ECB being put in place .If that happens Our retards will pray that the Brits if they Brexit will forgive us and let us join them .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 27, 2019, 11:11:33 AM
Coveney would not have made the error, Dr Vanity made.......but Coveney didn't spend yrs learning EU trade-craft as Leo did. We'll have to go on our hands and knees.......70% of all food and drink will wipe us out.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 27, 2019, 12:46:24 PM
Good old Jeremy never lets you down ... he only appears in Parliament with a Token Female blackwoman by his side to look like he is not racist or masoganist
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 27, 2019, 12:47:50 PM
Alan Shatter in your car last night?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 27, 2019, 12:59:03 PM
Alan Shatter in your car last night?

Me work Tuesday are you MAD .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 27, 2019, 01:01:37 PM
He was out in Ballymount........thought I heard a fellow roaring outside TV3/Virgin.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 27, 2019, 01:07:12 PM
John you say Trump is an idiot,and so are his followers.well I must be an idiot then,because I am fully supportive of him.let me tell you why.I have observed through my life.of watching how politics works ,how corrupt it is.I know the way all politicians,work,is to appease the masses,regardless wether they believe in the cause of the constituents or not.their only objective is to secure reelection at the next time of asking.in order to do that,they must bullshit people.
Donald Trump came along,and changed the way politics is done,but in an equally devious way he does his business. Im not stupid John,I know what Donald is capable of,but his devious way of doing politics is more appealing to me then the cunts who pretend to love muslims,Africans,eastern Europeans,etc etc and who fight toothvand nail for rights for them .just like Lynn Boylan did with the Hallawa family like Boyd Barrett Did when he went and protested on behalf of them in the lashing of rain etc Donald ,on the other hand,while being equally self serving,plays the game in support of his own ,and thats why I like him.and just like him,I want foreigners out to
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 27, 2019, 01:58:06 PM
Ifn I didn't know your views on homosexuality I'd be suspicious of the way you say "my Donald", DM.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 27, 2019, 02:06:13 PM
John you say Trump is an idiot,and so are his followers.well I must be an idiot then,because I am fully supportive of him.let me tell you why.I have observed through my life.of watching how politics works ,how corrupt it is.I know the way all politicians,work,is to appease the masses,regardless wether they believe in the cause of the constituents or not.their only objective is to secure reelection at the next time of asking.in order to do that,they must bullshit people.
Donald Trump came along,and changed the way politics is done,but in an equally devious way he does his business. Im not stupid John,I know what Donald is capable of,but his devious way of doing politics is more appealing to me then the cunts who pretend to love muslims,Africans,eastern Europeans,etc etc and who fight toothvand nail for rights for them .just like Lynn Boylan did with the Hallawa family like Boyd Barrett Did when he went and protested on behalf of them in the lashing of rain etc Donald ,on the other hand,while being equally self serving,plays the game in support of his own ,and thats why I like him.and just like him,I want foreigners out to

Dollymount I never said you were not an Idiot .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 27, 2019, 06:12:54 PM
So your saying I am an idiot ah well your propably right.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 27, 2019, 07:40:13 PM
So your saying I am an idiot ah well your propably right.

Never Just saying that I didnt say what I didnt say .Anyhoo After a few months of Good Banter Dalymount I think we are going to see weak willed wasters chickening out of doing what they are paid to do .I never thought I would see the day the Brits surrendered .Im looking forward to the DUP shouting NO SURRENDER and voting against the deal.or will they ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 27, 2019, 08:37:20 PM
Honstly John,give it your best guess ,will brexit happen r not ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 27, 2019, 10:23:48 PM
Honstly John,give it your best guess ,will brexit happen r not ?

YES in two years .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 28, 2019, 07:13:25 AM
The DUP will not back her.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 28, 2019, 07:21:12 AM
She might still get it through with the help of labour brexiteers,unless of course they are going to be subject to the whip system
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 28, 2019, 07:24:11 AM
The North is on life-support.........we're in for it either way..........No Surrender!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 28, 2019, 08:17:49 AM
Peculiar one in that according to International Law the Brits have been granted an extension to its departure date, but on female MP flagged up that if the Statute Book is not adjusted regarding Domestic Law, then tomorrow is still the exit date?  Seems the letter May sent is in conflict with domestic law....the Brits fought a Civil War against "Divine Right"....where is the Queen regarding this? This is a serious constitutional issue.........nobody knows what's going on....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 28, 2019, 09:08:22 AM
What you are seeing in the UK is May appearing as a great Prime Minister .She and Sir Humphrey knew there was no way MPs would agree on anything and they left them out and got a deal .Yesterday proved they were right they couldnt even agree not to dissagree .She knows there is going to be a General Election but what she did she knows she is a gonner but by offering to resign if they vote for it ,she has exposed both Reess Mogg ,and Boris as deviuos no good self serving scum who were willing to sell out their country either by accepting or rejecting the deal depending on which one served THEM best .If Boris is ever PM the Conservatives will split .

  The only way to save Brexit now is a general election and hope one party wins a majority .Strange that Most Irish Republicans will be cheering the DUP today for saving the Republic from Brexit .But May also played them like drunken fools .She said if her deal failed she would resign but she never said what she would do if the deal didnt go through will she lead them in a General Election and if she wins then will she remain .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 28, 2019, 09:19:18 AM
The DUP still have 24 hours to change their minds,the saying every man has his price springs to mind.I would not rule out the DUP having a change of heart if the price is right
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 28, 2019, 09:50:20 AM
The DUP still have 24 hours to change their minds,the saying every man has his price springs to mind.I would not rule out the DUP having a change of heart if the price is right

I would think the DUP have already been paid .If Corbyn gets into office the DUP will be sidelined and Corbyn will look after his Republican mates .DUP are buying insurance from the Conservatives for the future .DUP do not want to reopen Stormont and have to answer questions about the Fuel Fiddle .Direct rule from Westminster under a Conservative Government would suit them.But like you say the DUP could change their mind if it looks like a general election .Anything is possible .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 28, 2019, 09:53:06 AM
A good war will sort this. We need to get rid of the Useless Eaters. lol
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 28, 2019, 09:58:47 AM
A good war will sort this. We need to get rid of the Useless Eaters. lol

Dont rule out serious terrorism in the Uk .National Front  British Defense League and every other group with a grudge .I thought they might congragate around civil unrest in Norn Eireann but it might kick off in mainland UK .Every annarchist anti European group in Europe will flock to the UK bit like soccer hooligans prganising a face off .A lot of Islamic cash will be made available to fund any unrest in GB .This wont end well.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 28, 2019, 10:02:13 AM
3rd time saying this.......thousands of troops have been engaged from a multi-national platform for "training" in Britain on March 30th. This is not a coincidence.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 28, 2019, 10:19:47 AM
3rd time saying this.......thousands of troops have been engaged from a multi-national platform for "training" in Britain on March 30th. This is not a coincidence.

Not of any consequence how many troops are in Britain .British Government cant allow foreign troops to shoot Brits in Britain .Organised Terrorism ,street Riots gang violence cannot be beaten by a regular army .As I said Britain is a Broken Society it only takes a few to ignite the powderkeg .Something simple like Liverpool losing to Spurs and a soccer riot could spill over .Remember Brixton,Toxteth in the 1980s there is a lot of social injustice in Britain it is probably what led to Brexit ,it is still there .Yellow Jacket protests in France is a good example of what might happen one riot could lead to many .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 28, 2019, 10:24:43 AM
It is of significance if that country was supposed to have "exited" the E.U....these troops are from that federation. Also, these troops might be there to learn from the Brits on how to deal with civic strife....nobody mentioned shootings or killings......
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 28, 2019, 10:27:05 AM
It is of significance if that country was supposed to have "exited" the E.U....these troops are from that federation. Also, these troops might be there to learn from the Brits on how to deal with civic strife....nobody mentioned shootings or killings......

What else are soldiers for ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 28, 2019, 10:36:15 AM
Keeping order if Marshall Law is declared?....to protect Govts? Why do we have soldiers, to shoot Brits, do you think?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 28, 2019, 11:11:05 AM
Keeping order if Marshall Law is declared?....to protect Govts? Why do we have soldiers, to shoot Brits, do you think?

Our Soldiers are for PR purposes only we send them on peace missions to safe areas of the world .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 28, 2019, 11:18:23 AM
I see facebook are to stop all communication from white nationalists which could be considered hatred.how will the lads communicate to arrange meetings etc  ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on March 28, 2019, 11:21:34 AM
I see facebook are to stop all communication from white nationalists which could be considered hatred.how will the lads communicate to arrange meetings etc  ?
Would that be considerd Racist ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 28, 2019, 11:27:27 AM
I see facebook are to stop all communication from white nationalists which could be considered hatred.how will the lads communicate to arrange meetings etc  ?

Would Bohs and Shels supporters need to comunicate ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 28, 2019, 11:28:23 AM
Why is it only Whitey Nationalists, Dalyer?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 28, 2019, 11:48:42 AM
You'll have to ask facebook ,they made statement onthe matter today
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 28, 2019, 12:43:26 PM
Dalyer .Tessy just brought her deal back into Parliament .It will fail she knows that but it will expose Borris and Reess Mogg .If they vote for it and it fails she will go nuclear and save her job by calling a General Election .If she wins the election she remains Prime Minister if she loses then Corbin becomes prime minister and it becomes his problem .The Conservatives under a Hard Brexiteer would cause mayhem .Tessy is actually playing the Patriotic card she knows that a no deal exit will be disasterous .She is Killing off Borris and Mogg for good .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 28, 2019, 12:46:49 PM
Never trust a Vicar's daughter.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 28, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
When you think about,her deal is actually pretty close to the brexit voted for
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 28, 2019, 03:10:10 PM
Im fully convinced the DUP will come on board,and vote for tessys deal
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 28, 2019, 03:43:05 PM
Im fully convinced the DUP will come on board,and vote for tessys deal

Dont think it matters cant see it passing .May is setting up Boris and Mogg making sure they cannot become Taoiseach ,she is paying back Grove for stabbing Boris the last time .None of the frontrunners will win the PMs Job .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 28, 2019, 05:04:53 PM
I just cant think who might emerge as a possible contender
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 28, 2019, 05:08:00 PM
I see mr speaker has cleared the way for the motion to be brought back again.ORDER ORDER DIVISION ,CLEAR THE LOBBY OF
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 28, 2019, 05:46:57 PM
No DUP = No Jacob Rees-Mogg. What about Rees-Mogg to be next Prime Minister (Taoiseach)... the voice of a modern nation?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on March 28, 2019, 07:00:24 PM
No DUP = No Jacob Rees-Mogg. What about Rees-Mogg to be next Prime Minister (Taoiseach)... the voice of a modern nation?
Rees Mogg, the Minister for the 18th Century.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 30, 2019, 04:36:34 AM
Im tipping Dominic Raab  to replace tessy
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 30, 2019, 07:31:03 AM
You've another 2 yrs listening to your man "Stoooop Brexxxittt", Dalyer. Panti Bliss will be a lot older looking too.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 30, 2019, 09:37:06 AM
Maybe or maybe not . If they cannot agree anything on monday when all the indicitive votes are brought back again,then surely  its no deal by April 12 th and they just crash out ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 30, 2019, 04:35:30 PM
Possible but unlikely.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 30, 2019, 05:01:03 PM
The EU are set to meet in emergency session on the 10/4/19 I wonder is there a possibility of a further concession to tessy to try to get her deal over the line ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 30, 2019, 05:14:29 PM
I bet she hopes not!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 31, 2019, 06:06:23 AM
Gay Foreigner says if the Brits Crash out THERE WILL BE A BORDER .The EU will insist on it .So the EU are willing to break the Good Friday Agreement while at the same time forcing the UK to respect it .Imagin the British are showing more respect to the People of Ireland than our friends in the EU .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 31, 2019, 06:23:38 AM
More grandstanding from Dr Vlad.....there'll be no crash-out.........Brexit was never going to happen.



Boris has made another huge gaffe........he claims the Govt has "spaffed" 60 million investigating child sex abuse scandals in England. Turns out that word he used is public school boy speak for male baby-juice.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on March 31, 2019, 06:43:10 AM
is anybody else sick to their hole with all this Brexit bollocks.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 31, 2019, 09:46:46 AM
is anybody else sick to their hole with all this Brexit bollocks.

Yep   but its going to fuck us up big time no matter which Brexit they go for .The Gay Foreigner has been shouting about Bullet Proof deals and no border in Ireland now he is saying if there is a hard brexit there will be a hard border ..He is our version of Borris ,more interested in his own image than the truth .The Brits or the EU are going to punish the Republic of Ireland inc.for interfearing with their Brexit .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 31, 2019, 09:54:51 AM
More grandstanding from Dr Vlad.....there'll be no crash-out.........Brexit was never going to happen.



Boris has made another huge gaffe........he claims the Govt has "spaffed" 60 million investigating child sex abuse scandals in England. Turns out that word he used is public school boy speak for male baby-juice.

I hope your right Lip but Tories want out of the EU as I said they want to be able to do their own deals especially in arms sales .Tessys deal does not allow free trade .There are two possibilities that prevent the break up of the Tory party .Revoke article 50 or Crash out if they try to extend all 27 must agree that is not a given and they must partisipate in the Euro elections thats only going to lead to trouble all over the EU .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 31, 2019, 11:27:52 AM
As long as I live,I will NEVER trust politicians again.although brexit is something solely to do with the UK,and its politicians,the behaviour of these people throughout the whole brexit process has clearly demonstrated their contempt for democracy,and the british electorate.these remain politicians have twarted the will of the people inspite of the mandate they were given.they should hang their heads in shame if they fail to deliver brexit
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 31, 2019, 12:34:42 PM
As long as I live,I will NEVER trust politicians again.although brexit is something solely to do with the UK,and its politicians,the behaviour of these people throughout the whole brexit process has clearly demonstrated their contempt for democracy,and the british electorate.these remain politicians have twarted the will of the people inspite of the mandate they were given.they should hang their heads in shame if they fail to deliver brexit

Dalymount they should armwrestle or something sensible like that to sort it out .The only way to avoid a civil war and kick for touch is they pass Mays Deal and then put it to a  conformation referendum of accept or remain as that is the only deal on offer .If they crash out or extend then the shit hits the fan somebody is going to be upset .

 Just to think if the Brits defended Democracy in Derry in 1968 and prevented the Unionists from gerrymandering the constituencies to prevent a few catholics getting corpo gaffs ther would be no Good Friday and this issue would not exist .The bit I dont get is after all of this the North could vote to Reunite with the Republic and all of this will be bollox .How Britain can try to do a deal for a United Kingdom when two parts of it have the right to leave with a common majority vote .You have to wonder if May playing hard ball is just a way of telling the Jocks and the Loyal Unionist you vote to leave and we will drag your spleen out your arseholes and feed it to your kids .If its this hard for the Uk to leave the EU how hard would it be for Jockland the same border problem that exists with Norn Eireann would exist between Jockland and Norn Eireann and Jockland and England .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 31, 2019, 12:39:00 PM
Dalymount whats the chances if Britain do run candidates in the Euros that along with other anti EU members from all over Europe they could hold the balance of power in the European Parliament and block the appointment of Commissioners .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 31, 2019, 02:16:27 PM
The problem with Norn Iron is that it is a microcosm of "Jockland", John. Hundreds of thousands of good Reformation Prods went all Presbyterian...John Knox, the Puritanical cunt, fucked up the mad Fenians and Huns on the islands with his "Bible or Babel" shite...and they all fell for it, despite none of the cunts ever being near "Jockland" since Henry fucked them out of the Highlands. The best definition of a Scottish Prod I ever heard was from a Norn Irish Rangers fan.........."A cunt who thinks some other cunt is having a better time than him".
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 31, 2019, 03:00:24 PM
Democracy is dead long live democracy
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 31, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Democracy is dead long live democracy

Democracy never existed unless there was mandatory voting .60% turnout for an election you only need 50% +1 vote to win .So you are the winner but 70% of the electorate did not vote for you
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 31, 2019, 03:54:11 PM
Will we have a. clearer picture this week after the indicative votes ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 31, 2019, 05:49:20 PM
Will we have a. clearer picture this week after the indicative votes ?

I havent a clue Dalymount .My best guess is May gets her deal passed on condition that they then have a referendum that says you want this deal or ??????????? now thats the million dollar question what willbe the option .EU would prefer if the UK left with no deal rather than have Corbyn as Prime Minister .He is an old fashioned Marxist and would want to renationalise a lot of British Industry and might set the Domonoes in motion for the likes of Greece and Italy who need to create jobs for young people to nationalise industries .As the Rodent says the civil service is where you employ the unemployables
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 31, 2019, 06:28:30 PM
What if Britain enter the Eurovision Song Contest and if they win they stay if the lose they go .They can enter a Boy Band made upog four girls one from each England ,Scotland Wales and NornEireann .A catholic,A Prod a Muslim and a Pagan who use to be a Jew .And if one of them was a tranny another transexual another transgender and one pregnany .It would send out a lovely message about how nice a Kip Britain is to live in .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 31, 2019, 06:40:13 PM
http://intaxi.org/forum//video/VID-20190331.mp4 (http://intaxi.org/forum//video/VID-20190331.mp4)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 31, 2019, 07:10:55 PM
John the EU are left wing,I would have thought they'd be delighted to have the likes of Corbyn ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 31, 2019, 08:04:10 PM
John the EU are left wing,I would have thought they'd be delighted to have the likes of Corbyn ?

The EU are not Left or Right they are Econocrats everything is based on expanding the economy Social Justice is only paid lip service .Thats why they import labour especially young men of working age .Look West Europe will mask the USA no welfare no pensions no medical cover unless you can pay .The reason all EU countries are trying to import labour is to pay for existing pension and welfare commitments but before todays teen agers ever collect a pension they will have paid for it through a private scheme and if they want Old folks home they will pay with their own home .Reganomics and Thatcherism was the beginning of the end for the concept of Nationality its all now about Economy .A few Brits of the Old School are swimming against the tide so is Trump they see  the writing on the wall  Trump is trying to take back the States for Americans but Europe is going full out to destroy National Identity and replace it with Economy .Just look at this Kip ,No housing ,No hospitals but the Economy is doing great and thats all it is about .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 31, 2019, 09:13:41 PM
Well at least we agree on the EU trying to  destroy national identity.ive saying this for a long time now,that I feel ive lost my national identity, my culture,my heritage,and the country's sovereignty.im not sure I agree with you that Trump and others are swimming against the tide,there is a hell of a lot of populist throughout Europe now,and beyond and they seem to be gaining momentum
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 31, 2019, 09:17:21 PM
Well at least we agree on the EU trying to  destroy national identity.ive saying this for a long time now,that I feel ive lost my national identity, my culture,my heritage,and the country's sovereignty.im not sure I agree with you that Trump and others are swimming against the tide,there is a hell of a lot of populist throughout Europe now,and beyond and they seem to be gaining momentum


Really The EU will punish anybody that tries tobe different .Look at Irish Bank Bailout .Same in Cypress and Greece .Italy are scared shitless to break the rules .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on March 31, 2019, 09:27:43 PM
They wont threaten Trump.unlike tessy,he wont take any shit from them
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on March 31, 2019, 09:38:25 PM
They wont threaten Trump.unlike tessy,he wont take any shit from them

Trump is a Joke .No wall no Trade Deal with China no fucking idea .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: TheDevilHimself on April 01, 2019, 12:51:21 AM
Brexit  will not happen
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 01, 2019, 05:08:07 AM
Well if it doesnt, then that is the end of democracy .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 01, 2019, 05:13:19 AM
I have to say,I was wrong after all the years I spent thinking I knew what democracy meant.I always thought it meant that the voters gave the politicians a mandate to implement a particular instruction,and the politicians carried out that instruction unequivocally,this is not the case apperently
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 01, 2019, 05:36:08 AM
I have to say,I was wrong after all the years I spent thinking I knew what democracy meant.I always thought it meant that the voters gave the politicians a mandate to implement a particular instruction,and the politicians carried out that instruction unequivocally,this is not the case apperently

Democracy is where Politicians ask you to help them to help you so they can help themselves .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 01, 2019, 08:03:04 AM
John the EU are left wing,I would have thought they'd be delighted to have the likes of Corbyn ?


Marxist, Dalyer....not true left-wingers. They unveiled a statue to the German, Marx, not so long ago in Brussels. The Eurocrats would be true Marxists in that they uphold capitalism for the elite and refined socialism for the plebs(us). Corbyn's brother is a climatologist who has dismissed man-made climate change as a hoax............so maybe his politician brother is not as bad a people might think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bLbM3lndAo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bLbM3lndAo)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 01, 2019, 11:04:40 AM
Now it gets weird .Frau Merkel has suggested Theresa May could be appointed As A Replacement for Van Rumperoy and she could lead the evolution of the EU .Provided Britain Revoke article 50 and remain in the Union .If Enda gets the drunks job then that might work .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 01, 2019, 11:19:39 AM
Leo's busy sending letters to Kylie.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 01, 2019, 11:26:08 AM
Gerry Adams was in B&Q yesterday buying bags of stones .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 01, 2019, 11:51:24 AM
Now it gets weird .Frau Merkel has suggested Theresa May could be appointed As A Replacement for Van Rumperoy and she could lead the evolution of the EU .Provided Britain Revoke article 50 and remain in the Union .If Enda gets the drunks job then that might work .

I heard she's gonna be the new Peggy Mitchell. Makes her debut in a special live edition of Eastenders on the beeb tonight... I kid you not.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 01, 2019, 12:05:37 PM
How do you reckon the April Fools Day votes will go, erm?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 01, 2019, 12:41:38 PM
How do you reckon the April Fools Day votes will go, erm?

 They agree to dissagree in the name of unity .I think they need a sex scandal to sort this out .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 01, 2019, 05:13:09 PM
If yes If the Brits go for a soft Brexit they are out of the Common Agricultural and Fisheries deal .So will we need to put up a border to check on the movement of animals across the border ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on April 01, 2019, 05:59:17 PM
Nutshell:
https://youtu.be/K3rRuGlqfKM
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 01, 2019, 06:06:45 PM
STREAKER in Parliament
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 01, 2019, 10:57:04 PM
April 1st 2019 .The British Parliament agreed not to agree on what they were trying to agree on .Some Mps agreed to agree with others who agreed but more Mp decided not to agree with others who also decided not to agree.HOW THE FUCK DID THESE CLOWNS ONCE RULE HALF THE WORLD .Reess Mogg would agree to bringing back the Black Death Borris would agree to bring back Slavery .Corbyn God Bless him unless he dosent believe in God hasent a clue .How come it took us 800 years  to get rid of them.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 02, 2019, 09:07:02 AM
Is April 12th the beginning of a new tax yr in Britain?... rofl
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 02, 2019, 12:41:02 PM
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2019/0401/1040059-brexit-what-happens-next/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2019/0401/1040059-brexit-what-happens-next/)

Brexit: What happens next?

Updated / Monday, 1 Apr 2019 23:00

MPs have again rejected a series of alternatives to Theresa May's Brexit deal.

A call for a customs union after Brexit was defeated by just three votes, a referendum on any deal was rejected by 12 votes, the Common Market 2.0 plan lost by 21 votes and cancelling Brexit to prevent a no-deal scenario was defeated by 101.

So what happens next?

Tuesday 2 April

Theresa May has scheduled a five-hour cabinet meeting instead of the usual 90 minutes. The first three hours will be a political cabinet in the absence of civil servants - fuelling speculation the senior Tories will consider the prospect of a snap election, the timing of the Prime Minister's departure or the potential for ministerial resignations if there is a change in Brexit strategy.

Wednesday 3 April

Backbench MPs will again take charge of the Commons timetable to consider Brexit plans under Tory MP Sir Oliver Letwin's scheme to break the parliamentary deadlock.

Thursday 4 April

After the latest round of indicative votes failed to produce a clear winner, Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay said: "If the House were to agree a deal this week it may still be possible to avoid holding European parliamentary elections."

That could be an indication the Prime Minister might risk a fourth showdown on her Withdrawal Agreement in the hope that more Tory Eurosceptics will accept the choice is between her plan and a softer Brexit.

Wednesday 10 April

An emergency summit of European Union leaders will consider any request by the UK for a longer delay to Brexit. To be granted a further postponement the government will have to set out what purpose it would achieve and it will almost certainly involve taking part in the European elections.

Friday 12 April

The UK is scheduled to leave the EU on April 12 after MPs rejected the Prime Minister's deal last week.

Thursday 23 May

If Europe's leaders have agreed an extension to the Article 50 process, the UK will elect MEPs to the European Parliament.

The breakaway Independent Group of MPs has announced it intends to set up a fully fledged political party - Change UK - to fight the elections on a pro-EU platform.

Nigel Farage will seek to continue as an MEP, this time for the newly formed Brexit Party.

Sunday June 23

Mrs May warned MPs before they rejected her deal that a long extension would "at least delay and could destroy Brexit".

Three years after the referendum, it is possible the UK will still be in the European Union, have newly elected MEPs and will be contributing to the Brussels budget.

A general election?

The current make-up of the House of Commons has so far proved unable to agree on any Brexit plan so the Prime Minister could be tempted to call a snap election to break the deadlock.

But having promised not to lead the Tories into the scheduled 2022 election and then said she would quit before the next phase of the Brexit process, would her MPs allow her to fight another contest as leader?

And would a new election produce a decisive result to give whoever occupies Number 10 a majority to steer such a divisive issue through Parliament?

A fresh referendum?

The call for another referendum was defeated by just 12 votes and campaigners seized on the fact it had more MPs voting in favour than any other option.

A "soft" Brexit?

The narrow defeat for a customs union will increase pressure on Mrs May to move in favour of the measure.

But that would tear the Tory party apart and would be likely to result in cabinet resignations as critics of the customs union believe it robs the UK of one of the major Brexit prizes - the ability to strike trade deals with countries such as the US.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 02, 2019, 12:56:30 PM
Laughable really.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 02, 2019, 12:58:41 PM
More important if they leave will they have a better chance of winning World Cup .Will British Cyclists in the Tour de france be at a disadvantage by having to stop at borders between France and italy or France and Germany will the other riders stopand wait while the brits get their passport stamped .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 02, 2019, 12:58:51 PM
3 hour cabinet meeting without civil servants = dangerous.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 02, 2019, 01:06:57 PM
3 hour cabinet meeting without civil servants = dangerous.


Options General Election or Civil War .Barniea told them to cop the fuck on.Veradkar asked Kylie what should he do.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 02, 2019, 04:07:53 PM
WILL BRITAIN SEE THE END OF MAY BEFORE THE END OF APRIL .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on April 03, 2019, 06:53:29 AM
Second Brexit referendum, I'm all over it @ 5/2.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics (https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 03, 2019, 10:43:50 AM
Second Brexit referendum, I'm all over it @ 5/2.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics (https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics)

Bookies small print is it an in out referendum ?Not just a referendum on something else .I cant see it .I think General Election then long finger the thing for a few years then a referendum .If I was investing for the year Colin Keane to be Irish Champion flat jockey offers better chance at same odds .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 03, 2019, 10:51:36 AM
Exciting times ahead...........

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/dup-accuses-theresa-may-of-sub-contracting-future-of-brexit-to-corbyn-915119.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/dup-accuses-theresa-may-of-sub-contracting-future-of-brexit-to-corbyn-915119.html)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 03, 2019, 10:56:53 AM
Exciting times ahead...........

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/dup-accuses-theresa-may-of-sub-contracting-future-of-brexit-to-corbyn-915119.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/dup-accuses-theresa-may-of-sub-contracting-future-of-brexit-to-corbyn-915119.html)


Dont rule out Reess Mogg or Boris whispering to the DUP to pull the plug in a Confidence motion bringing about a general election without splitting the Conservatives .Conservative voters want out .So that would be the Agenda for the Election Vote Tory vote out .Vote Labour vote remain or possibly leave or something .May just stuck her finger up Corbyns hole and dragged him right into her mess with her offer .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on April 03, 2019, 10:58:25 AM
Second Brexit referendum, I'm all over it @ 5/2.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics (https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics)

Bookies small print is it an in out referendum ?Not just a referendum on something else .I cant see it .I think General Election then long finger the thing for a few years then a referendum .If I was investing for the year Colin Keane to be Irish Champion flat jockey offers better chance at same odds .

My bet was done by CC, if'n the bookies wanna Fook about with the rules,
then I will Fook about with CC Charge-backs.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 03, 2019, 11:02:58 AM
Interesting on the CC .I had to get bank statements for car credit .I use an old CC in her name for Betting .so no transactions on my bank or CC for bookies .the Fat Credit Controler in one of the dealers said most credit applications will be refused if bookies deductions appear on your statement.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 03, 2019, 04:01:36 PM
More Irish jobs?

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Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 03, 2019, 09:35:35 PM
Im down freeing uo the sink for Big Dommos Ma she is in her 90s .She is worried about Brexit .She said Young John Im very worried about Brexit with the two lads in Jail in England if that Brexit comes in they wont be able to come home when they are released .Its terrible .I told her not to worry but she said Jasus its Fucking madness over there .Yer one Tessy said yer man Corbyn was a dishonest Bollox and couldnt be trusted ,now she wants him to help her .For fuck sake is that not a bit like asking Jimmy Saville to babysit .You cant tell her anything .She still uses loose tea to make her tea dosent like tea bags and still trows the tealeaves down the sink .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on April 03, 2019, 10:39:07 PM
Interesting on the CC .I had to get bank statements for car credit .I use an old CC in her name for Betting .so no transactions on my bank or CC for bookies .the Fat Credit Controler in one of the dealers said most credit applications will be refused if bookies deductions appear on your statement.
In order to circumnavigate that some bookies now use paypal to lodge money in to your/their account.

2nd referendum down to 3.10 now on betfair.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 03, 2019, 11:45:04 PM
Interesting on the CC .I had to get bank statements for car credit .I use an old CC in her name for Betting .so no transactions on my bank or CC for bookies .the Fat Credit Controler in one of the dealers said most credit applications will be refused if bookies deductions appear on your statement.
In order to circumnavigate that some bookies now use paypal to lodge money in to your/their account.

2nd referendum down to 3.10 now on betfair.

Paddy offering on odds for an in out Vote not a conformation vote .!!!!!! watch your step .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 05, 2019, 03:33:01 PM
If you had coin and were able to take some time off .Brits are not booking holidays due toBrexit .Some dirt cheap package deals available .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 05, 2019, 04:00:38 PM
Yes groupon deals are very good at the mo
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 06, 2019, 08:47:45 AM
Treason Mayhem is alleged to have bought a gaff in Dunmore East...Brexit still on?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 06, 2019, 10:17:17 AM
Dominic Raab for next pm
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 09, 2019, 09:54:42 AM
Merkel just hard fucked Leo .She has suggested a five year time limit on the backstop so much for we are silidly behind Ireland .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 09, 2019, 09:56:24 AM
The EU is behind Ireland......just like the whites were behind the blacks in the American Civil War.....sheltering behind.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 09, 2019, 10:03:55 AM
Buying 5 years for the Brits and EU to do a deal .Said it all along the Germans would call the shots .German economy has been in recession for a year now and they are looking after number 1 .The Gay foreigner should of made this offer .He was played like a cheap slut .He is only a tailors dummy not a politician .If the EU agree that includes the Gay Foreigner then mays deal will pass .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 09, 2019, 10:35:45 AM
He still gets his huge pension at the end and the promise of a non-job paying 200,000 p.a. in Brussels..........if he hasn't ran for President at that stage.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 09, 2019, 10:44:48 AM
Dont know why he didnt suggest this option basically it means they have 5 years to do a deal .Germany or the EU dont and never will give a fuck about how many Prods or Taigs get slaughtered in Norn Eireann all they want to know is will an Audi or a BMW look good parked on the Shankhill or the Falls .Its only about money .Mister Merkel couldnt hand over to the person absolutely nobody knows who is the leader of Merkels party a financial mess for germany like Brexit no deal .Be interesting to see what the French Nazi has to say .This deal if it is offered will mean the Brits wont stand for the Euro elections and that is what the rest of the EU is afraid of them getting elected and acting the bollox as Reess Mogg suggested .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 09, 2019, 12:47:35 PM
Im really hoping there will be extension
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 09, 2019, 01:02:05 PM
Daly its a mess people were played by Moggie and BOBO and Farage .Britain is Broken but its not Europes fault .The Saviour Churchill invited the commonwealth to come over to work he thought they would come earn then go home they stayed .Britian lost the War they won on the battlefield but lost the peace .Brexit has brought that home .Just watch TV programmes like Shameless ,RoyalFamily Jerremy Kyle that is Broken Britain .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 09, 2019, 01:16:13 PM
Your a footballman Daily .I remember Clyve Best being the first black player in the old first division for west ham now look at the make up of premier sides that represents the make up of most british workplaces .You might notice not to many Indians or Muslim players and that sort of reflects society Asians are more insular stay in their own communities bit like the Irish did when the first went to Britain the Galtymore in Cricklewood was our overseas HQ.As I said Dalymount Britain is Broken so is France both for the same reason Colonisation Belgium is also broken .70% of people living in London were not born there .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 09, 2019, 01:17:02 PM
The Germans did the same but they called them Gastarbeiters.....until they realised the Turks were having kids......all about the elite and their need for serfs.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 09, 2019, 01:24:42 PM
Lip you look at the wealth in Britain they have very limited naturalresources themselves all plundered from all over the world its payback time .World is running short of resources we need a war need to wipe out about 2 billion people .A war between third world Foragers and first world telly watchers would remove a lot of dead wood .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 09, 2019, 01:44:42 PM
My last post should have read I really hope there is NO extension granted.as a brexiteer,I want a no deal and the UK to crash out on Friday. My reason is,I sincerely hope this is the begining of rhe end of the EU.John as I told you before,all the benefits rhe EU give  us,in my book is not worth the loss of our sovereignty
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 09, 2019, 05:01:44 PM
Dollyer Brexit if it happens willmean your kids living with you for ever ,will impact most peoples disposable income big time and if they crash out then we go bankrupt only this time the banks will collapse and your savings and pension will be bailed in .Those of us lucky enough to have nothing will be better off than those who had their pockets picked .History repeating itself with what happens in Parliament effecting Ireland .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 09, 2019, 07:42:02 PM
John I have 4 kids  ( if you can call them that at their ages ) the youngest is 26 ,and the oldest is 38 and 3 of them STILL fukking live with me.the oldest lives in carrickfergus,so the chances are,HE will be told to sling his hook out of the north ether by the government,or loyalist paramilitaries who have ALREADY threatened  him some time ago.so most likely I will have the full set living with me soon.so no change there
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on April 09, 2019, 09:51:25 PM
John I have 4 kids  ( if you can call them that at their ages ) the youngest is 26 ,and the oldest is 38 and 3 of them STILL fukking live with me.the oldest lives in carrickfergus,so the chances are,HE will be told to sling his hook out of the north ether by the government,or loyalist paramilitaries who have ALREADY threatened  him some time ago.so most likely I will have the full set living with me soon.so no change there
Jesus must have been Irish.
33 and still living at home.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on April 09, 2019, 10:19:02 PM
There be no one going anywhere anytime soon, the 2nd EU Brexit referendum (which I'm all over) was 5/2 a few weeks ago but now trades at about 7/4 and getting shorter by the day.
The Brits can not or will not decide on a Brexit deal so the only real option is to Vote again.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 10, 2019, 07:17:48 AM
I totally disagree .for 2 reasons firstly there is every chance the leave side would cause anarchy should they loose,secondly to hold a second referendum would be a complete denial of democracy.if I was a brit and I had voted leave,and my politicians failed to uphold the will of the ppeople,I think it will be like John says ITS TIME TO GET A GUN
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 10, 2019, 07:30:09 AM
A yr's extension to prolong the agony for the Queen's subjects and to keep 24 hr news in fodder.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on April 10, 2019, 08:52:40 AM
John I have 4 kids  ( if you can call them that at their ages ) the youngest is 26 ,and the oldest is 38 and 3 of them STILL fukking live with me.the oldest lives in carrickfergus,so the chances are,HE will be told to sling his hook out of the north ether by the government,or loyalist paramilitaries who have ALREADY threatened  him some time ago.so most likely I will have the full set living with me soon.so no change there
DM I have 3 Kids aged 23,18 & 15 , and main thing is they are safe and happy, if that means hanging around my house then so be it. They are after all our future.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 10, 2019, 09:08:43 AM
Dollyer Brexit if it happens willmean your kids living with you for ever ,will impact most peoples disposable income big time and if they crash out then we go bankrupt only this time the banks will collapse and your savings and pension will be bailed in .Those of us lucky enough to have nothing will be better off than those who had their pockets picked .History repeating itself with what happens in Parliament effecting Ireland .

More than likely. I remember my ex telling me her union rep said the pension fund they're all being duped into paying into is gone.......that was 9 yrs ago.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on April 10, 2019, 09:14:14 AM
Dollyer Brexit if it happens willmean your kids living with you for ever ,will impact most peoples disposable income big time and if they crash out then we go bankrupt only this time the banks will collapse and your savings and pension will be bailed in .Those of us lucky enough to have nothing will be better off than those who had their pockets picked .History repeating itself with what happens in Parliament effecting Ireland .

More than likely. I remember my ex telling me her union rep said the pension fund they're all being duped into paying into is gone.......that was 9 yrs ago.
Lip, whatever we have lets keep it under the mattress
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 10, 2019, 09:50:56 AM
Dollyer Brexit if it happens willmean your kids living with you for ever ,will impact most peoples disposable income big time and if they crash out then we go bankrupt only this time the banks will collapse and your savings and pension will be bailed in .Those of us lucky enough to have nothing will be better off than those who had their pockets picked .History repeating itself with what happens in Parliament effecting Ireland .

More than likely. I remember my ex telling me her union rep said the pension fund they're all being duped into paying into is gone.......that was 9 yrs ago.
Lip, whatever we have lets keep it under the mattress

Maybe. I'd be of the opinion a person should have nothing at all to be frank. The PTSB is selling off more "sour debts" to vulture funds as we type. People with huge debt are being sold into slavery for fuck knows how long. These faceless scumbags can name the terms and conditions....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 10, 2019, 09:53:33 AM
Having read the History of the Tory Party .I can only see one result here .The Tories split and revoke article 50 but always hold the right to retrigger it in ten or twenty years and rebuild the Bigoted part of the Party .Going back to the 1700 The Tories have always been protectionists and all about the Middle and Upper Classes .The World Bank have issued trade warnings .If the Tories can force Labour into power with a booming eonomy that is ready to crash they can come back stronger in an election or two and them walk out of the EU . So what happens next  my best guess a General Election that Labour win .Suspension of Article 50 ,probably another Scottish Inde vote and a United Ireland vote which will be gerrymandered so there is a United Ireland .Then Conservative Government as Labour are blamed for the break up of the Union . How do they get to a General election before a deal ?The DUP pull the plug .May might even lead them into the election to guarentee they lose .A referendum would lead to civil war the winners if it was remain would be challenged by the brexiteers and if it was leave again nothing would change .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 10, 2019, 09:57:50 AM
Dollyer Brexit if it happens willmean your kids living with you for ever ,will impact most peoples disposable income big time and if they crash out then we go bankrupt only this time the banks will collapse and your savings and pension will be bailed in .Those of us lucky enough to have nothing will be better off than those who had their pockets picked .History repeating itself with what happens in Parliament effecting Ireland .

More than likely. I remember my ex telling me her union rep said the pension fund they're all being duped into paying into is gone.......that was 9 yrs ago.
Lip, whatever we have lets keep it under the mattress

Maybe. I'd be of the opinion a person should have nothing at all to be frank. The PTSB is selling off more "sour debts" to vulture funds as we type. People with huge debt are being sold into slavery for fuck knows how long. These faceless scumbags can name the terms and conditions....


While Brexit is in Full Bloom there is moves going on in the background for banking unity .Irish Central bank is looking for a partner .Deucha Bank and Commerce bank are looking at teaming up .Dragi says WE NEED MORE PROFITABLE BANKS .Where do banks PROFITS come from.Your pocket or tax cuts either way you pay .Live life on unsecured credit .it costs a bit extra but you can walk away .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on April 10, 2019, 10:00:17 AM
I was a debt collector in a previous life, you would be amazed at the amount of ordinary people who would come good and pay a few quid every week, so called millionaires from Foxrock etc would not have a pot to pee in.

Also served summons for extra coin, more served to the paper millionaires than the ordinary folk.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 10, 2019, 10:02:24 AM
Treaty of Amsterdam 1998....the ECB was established in Frankfurt.........it calls all the shots here.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 10, 2019, 10:09:56 AM
Borrowing money got silly in the 2000 s and its happening again .Next time your in Ballyfermot look at the banner over the shops 15,000 credit while you wait .I remember Bill Cullen offering car loand to girls with lone parent books when they opened in Liffey Valley and Credit Card application forms coming with the RTE guide and its all happening again .Watch what happens after the Euro elections .A new load of Commissioners and a new head of the ECB interest rates have to rise .Europe is stagnant and all the free money printed by the banks didnt get it moving .So time to change fromFiscal stimilus to a more intergrated Europe universal tax rates and pension contributions and universal health care .The days of the freebies is over Look West .We will become like americans the havs and have nots As I said People born in the 50s60s 70s are the luckiest generation ever to inhabit this earth .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 10, 2019, 10:16:28 AM
Treaty of Amsterdam 1998....the ECB was established in Frankfurt.........it calls all the shots here.

Dont think most Irish people know their power .We voted for and put into the constitution the Fiscal Treaty .In the next down turn we cannot excede 3% debt to GDP and we must reduce overall debt to 60% ..If we cannot borrow then there are few options cut spending ie pensions .wages ,investment or increase taxes or both .We are living in Strumpet City without the Priests but with the poverty and homelessness .Rashers Tierney no longer plays the penny whistle he jiggles a Mc Donalds or Starbucks empty cup in front of you seeking coin .Employment agencies take a cut of your casual wages .Apart from central heated high rised tenements what has changed .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 10, 2019, 10:39:03 AM
Martha Andreasen noticed several billion "misappropriated" several yrs ago..........think she got warned off by the ECB..,,google her yourself.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 10, 2019, 10:48:12 AM
I never stress about billions I dont have any .A roof over your head a full belly and a few coins to jiggle in me pocket and im happy .Unless we get banking union and political union the EU falls apart see the Central Bank looking for a partner to guarentee that every depositor up to 100K will have their money guarenteed in case of a bank failure ..EU is beginning to look more like a social experiment than a real thing .Britain are playing them the EU think they are calling the shots but the Brits are showing them how weak they really are by refusing to fuck them out .Frightning shit whats going on .Its all only History repeating itself ,wont be long till France turns on Germany or vice versa .
 
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 10, 2019, 02:28:18 PM
Im really hoping there will be extension

+1
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 10, 2019, 02:28:43 PM
My last post should have read I really hope there is NO extension granted.as a brexiteer,I want a no deal and the UK to crash out on Friday. My reason is,I sincerely hope this is the begining of rhe end of the EU.John as I told you before,all the benefits rhe EU give  us,in my book is not worth the loss of our sovereignty

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Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 10, 2019, 02:28:52 PM
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Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 10, 2019, 03:25:55 PM
More Irish jobs?

https://support.stripe.com/questions/brexit-information-en

Under our existing agreement, regulated payment services referred to in our agreement as “Authorised Payment Services” (or “APS”) in Europe are provided by Stripe Payments UK Limited (SPUKL), our UK incorporated entity, which is authorised as an Electronic Money Institution by the UK Financial Conduct Authority. In the event of a no-deal Brexit, payment services that are regulated in the UK may no longer be passported in Europe.

We are therefore altering our existing agreement so that APS can be provided by either SPUKL (as now) or Stripe Technology Europe, Limited (STEL), our Irish incorporated company, which is authorised as an Electronic Money Institution by the Central Bank of Ireland (reference number: C187865).
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 10, 2019, 04:00:06 PM
As far as im concerned Reese Mogg Boris,etc etc None  of them should get the p ms job ,because they are all to soft.mrs May would not  listen to president Trump when he told her how to deal with the liked of that.sneakey scumbag Tusk.I suppose he he to soft himself,but he is the nearest thing the world has to be able to deal with those unelected bureaucrats scum that run the EU,and everyone else
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 10, 2019, 04:18:29 PM
To be fair, us Irish are a lot better off with the foreign bureaucrats running the show. If our brief period of self rule taught us anything it's that we're not cut out for running anything more complex than a raffle.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on April 10, 2019, 04:30:22 PM
big fan of Vladimir Putin myself.
our gang would'nt have the time to lick his hole before he'd have them all liquidated.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 10, 2019, 04:50:11 PM
Ireland was great John Charles and Eamon looking after the People .If you fucked some youngone you could get the priest to lock her up in a Laundry .If you had a handicapped kid the nuns would kill it for you and bury it in the drains .If you didnt come from Clonsilla but fancied a cock up your hole Christian brothers and priest would oblige .You could see hundreds of showbands in village halls and follow your brothers or sisters over to England for work and send back a pound a week for your oulfella to spend on porter .Great Place altogeather .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 10, 2019, 04:57:02 PM
My list of favourite people are,Viktor Orban, Mateo Silvini,President Trump,Marine Le Pen,etc etc and all people who look after the welfare of their own nation,instead of foreigners.you can slag me off,or say wherever you like about my beliefs,but I will NEVER accept that it is right to house foreigners,while our own are still lying in fukking doorways.when our politicians do these things,they dont even do it because theyof believe its right,they do it to appease the bleeding hearts brigade,and the immigrant council of Ireland,and the likes of the liberals in Europe like Junker,Tusk,and barnier etc
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 10, 2019, 05:05:10 PM
John nobody is denying ,or indeed defending what went on in the Catholic church over decades.it was appealing.but I believe the Church has taken the wrap for every bit of abuse that ever occured in this country.they were not responsible for it all.they are a target for everyone who wants to justify their reason for not going to mass anymore.I believe foreign influence,particularly from Europe,is the reason our society is the way it is now.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 10, 2019, 05:09:00 PM
John nobody is denying ,or indeed defending what went on in the Catholic church over decades.it was appealing.but I believe the Church has taken the wrap for every bit of abuse that ever occured in this country.they were not responsible for it all.they are a target for everyone who wants to justify their reason for not going to mass anymore.I believe foreign influence,particularly from Europe,is the reason our society is the way it is now.

I did include Eamon in my condemnation .You could add in Lemass and Cosgrave .Church was used by government as a secondary prison system .And the church were greatfull for the money .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 10, 2019, 05:31:13 PM
I thought you were talking about Eamon casey
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on April 11, 2019, 05:30:00 AM
John nobody is denying ,or indeed defending what went on in the Catholic church over decades.it was appealing appalling.but I believe the Church has taken the wrap for every bit of abuse that ever occured in this country.they were not responsible for it all.they are a target for everyone who wants to justify their reason for not going to mass anymore.I believe foreign influence,particularly from Europe,is the reason our society is the way it is now.
I don't agree DM, the nun that battered the shite outta me almost daily as a tender Four year old in London wore a christian habit so don't be telling me what excuses I need not to go to mass.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 11, 2019, 07:26:02 AM
We're not bad at running things when we leave Ireland though. Queen Victoria deported criminals from here to Australia.....one ended up Prime Minister there.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on April 11, 2019, 08:35:52 AM
There be no one going anywhere anytime soon, the 2nd EU Brexit referendum (which I'm all over) was 5/2 a few weeks ago but now trades at about 7/4 and getting shorter by the day.
The Brits can not or will not decide on a Brexit deal so the only real option is to Vote again.
I'm losing confidence in my bet with the new Halloween date set and the dead line fer my bet being Dec 31st.
But still it is shortening by the day, I'm ON at 3.50 with 888.com and today's offer is at 2.60.
I would 'Cash Out' if I could fer a small profit but 888.com don't offer that service so I will have to stick it out.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 11, 2019, 08:52:06 AM
Under British Law it takes 100 days notice for a referendum .Plus The Referendum bet is an in out vote I think not a referendum on any deal .I have small coin on May @14 to still be PM in 2020 .If she holds on till December before a challenge then she stays in power until a new  PM is elected and that could take two months .Dont apply any logic toBrexit its based on 17th century Tory infighting .At this stage I think a GeneralElection by accident or design with a new political party being formed resulting in Coalition governments for ever and ever more in Britain like most other Countries and Brexit extended until 2185 or some long future date is most likely
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on April 11, 2019, 03:52:10 PM
Another six months of uninformed speculation to scroll past.
And you thought the Horse thread was long?
FFS!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on April 11, 2019, 04:10:58 PM
Another six months of uninformed speculation to scroll past.
And you thought the Horse thread was long?
FFS!!
SB, Would you think Admin might shut this one down for a few Months ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 11, 2019, 06:01:52 PM
We're not bad at running things when we leave Ireland though. Queen Victoria deported criminals from here to Australia.....one ended up Prime Minister there.

Several ended up as Taoiseach here and some as President. I didn't say we're incapable.... we're just not cut out for it. Culturally we're far better suited to circumventing regulation that devising and enforcing the same. As immigrants we turned NYPD into the second most corrupt police force in the world.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 11, 2019, 06:10:40 PM
Whats the first the Gardai ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 11, 2019, 06:14:23 PM
I see some if our universities are now offering FREE entry to their collages to direct provision residents,and they are also talking  about FREE accommodation for them as well .theres no end to these fukking bleeding hearts
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 11, 2019, 07:15:09 PM
Yeah, An Garda Siochana has to top the list.

With SUSI grants college fees are fuck all these days.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on April 11, 2019, 07:20:24 PM
I see some if our universities are now offering FREE entry to their collages to direct provision residents,and they are also talking  about FREE accommodation for them as well .theres no end to these fukking bleeding hearts
It's all about the optics. Irish people want virtually free housing,  not refugee camps.
Their parents , and grandparents got council houses, why not them they'll say.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 15, 2019, 05:23:55 PM
WHERE ARE THE IREXIT CANDIDATES ??..https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/european-elections-59-declare-including-wallace-daly-and-the-presidents-daughter-with-dublin-to-be-group-of-death-38016507.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/european-elections-59-declare-including-wallace-daly-and-the-presidents-daughter-with-dublin-to-be-group-of-death-38016507.html)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 15, 2019, 07:42:04 PM
Le PENN just won the majority in the euros in FRance .Notre Dame has just burned down .That represents french Christian Society and the people will see it as the end of days .Sad watching it burn down Quassi and Esmerelda must of perished as there is nothing on their facebook pages .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 17, 2019, 05:00:41 PM
When did they hold the European election in France, erm?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 17, 2019, 08:04:31 PM
I seem to remember you telling me Marine Le Pen wouldnt win an argument John,is that correct ,?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 17, 2019, 10:34:22 PM
I seem to remember you telling me Marine Le Pen wouldnt win an argument John,is that correct ,?

French feeling sorry for themselves the Little Nazi says he wants the chapel rebuilt in 5 years but the French love to be victims Le Penn will cash in on that .Le Penn is a useless waste of a clit a dispicable racist hate filled cunt .Who as I said wouldnt win a two ticket raffle but her racist party will do ok as the French as you will know from their surrendering history love giving in .when the going gets tough in Europe the French will get gone .Frogs are shitting themselves if the UKleave then the Frogs are the only Nuclear power how long before Putin or Trump shits in their mouth knowing the cunts dont or wont fight French will vote for le Penns party not her just to undermine the little Napoleon as they know how dangerous he really is .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on April 17, 2019, 11:39:14 PM
Another six months of uninformed speculation to scroll past.
And you thought the Horse thread was long?
FFS!!
SB, Would you think Admin might shut this one down for a few Months ?
Brexit on hold til October 31st, I wonder what the Erm will be wearing?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 18, 2019, 05:28:20 AM
I seem to remember you telling me Marine Le Pen wouldnt win an argument John,is that correct ,?

French feeling sorry for themselves the Little Nazi says he wants the chapel rebuilt in 5 years but the French love to be victims Le Penn will cash in on that .Le Penn is a useless waste of a clit a dispicable racist hate filled cunt .Who as I said wouldnt win a two ticket raffle but her racist party will do ok as the French as you will know from their surrendering history love giving in .when the going gets tough in Europe the French will get gone .Frogs are shitting themselves if the UKleave then the Frogs are the only Nuclear power how long before Putin or Trump shits in their mouth knowing the cunts dont or wont fight French will vote for le Penns party not her just to undermine the little Napoleon as they know how dangerous he really is .

Playing into Le Pen's hands burning down a cathedral......they called it an accident far too soon and it took 3 hrs for the fire brigade to reach it.............bit like the ambulance getting to Princess Di. Did anyone check the Banker's pockets before he announced it as an accident?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on April 18, 2019, 06:45:01 AM
"PARIS — Firefighter teams arrived at Notre-Dame Cathedral in less than 10 minutes after receiving the first call on Monday evening without any delays at their end, said a spokesman for the Paris Fire Department."
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2019/04/17/world/europe/17reuters-france-notredame-firefighters.html (https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2019/04/17/world/europe/17reuters-france-notredame-firefighters.html)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 18, 2019, 07:13:13 AM
Mr Sulzburger JR also never mentioned this in any of his paper's articles.........

https://newspunch.com/10-churches-france-attacked-one-week-before-notre-dame/
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 18, 2019, 07:19:41 AM
In French but the architect tells how amazed he was at the speed of the fire's growth............

https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Notre-Dame-Un-expert-de-la-construction-Il-faut-une-vraie-charge-calorifique-au-depart-pour-lancer-54404.html (https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Notre-Dame-Un-expert-de-la-construction-Il-faut-une-vraie-charge-calorifique-au-depart-pour-lancer-54404.html)


From Reuter's(news agency of dodgy repute) own timeline the fire started at 6.50 pm according to Parisian Firefighters.......the blaze took off more than 1 hr later...........very strange if the "heroes" were there fighting a fire?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb4EazJn12g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb4EazJn12g)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 18, 2019, 07:58:40 AM
Dollymount dosent get it .Napoleon set the French Agenda .To be the Military Kings of Europe .If the Brits leave that goal will be achieved .The Brits pine for Empire if they leave that dream wont be achieved .Germans are still humilated Two tries two failures but next time they wont have to face off against rhe Brits to be Kings of Europe .Just like Ireland has a National dream of a United Ireland France and Germany have their dreams too.Next war might not be fought with guns but with coins .Watch the Big sell out Germany will want a trade deal any deal with Britain and the USA and will be willing to sell out European Farmers in exchange for easy entry for their engineered goods .France wont have that as they only make Cheese ,wine and Bicycles .Without the Brits to referee those two Little shit States like Ireland with a population less than Manchester will be raped our tax rates and our agriculture will be sacrificed to suit the big boys agenda .China and Russia will be pissing themselves laughing at the Cheese munching surrender monkies being the Power in Europe ,that is until the Germans declare that they must nuke up to defend themselves and Europe from danger .Germany with Nukes sounds like the answer to a Question nobody wants to ask .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 18, 2019, 10:40:49 AM
France is bolting itself to Germany.........the Aachen Treaty. Bruno Le Maire(French Finance minister) has called for a European empire...hear that before? France wants Germany on board the U.N. security council....fucking insanity! Macron has proposed that France and Germany will interchange ministers sitting on the other cabinet's meetings.... he is a grovelling little shit just like Mickey Beag in the Phoeno.............only the Brits and the Yanks can stop the rise of the 4th Reich.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 18, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
John the only thing dollymount doesnt get is,the time you said Marine Le Pen would have no chance of winning ,and there she now leading the polls
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 18, 2019, 12:09:19 PM
John the only thing dollymount doesnt get is,the time you said Marine Le Pen would have no chance of winning ,and there she now leading the polls

Grow up leading what Polls .The Euro elections are for retards look at what we elected A God Whisperer a Junkie a cripple and a collection of wasters .The EU is run by unelected Commissioners .Le Penn is scum a hate filled muppett who selects her victims based on her own prejudices .The Reasom Le Penn And Farage do so well among the illiterate is they appeal to their ignorance and hark back to the Good old days of Empire .Britains only natural resource was coal and a Navy of Pirates .France ,Britain,Spain were all built on stolen or Pirated goods .Look at all the countries with extreme right wing politics you will notice they were all once Empires built on theft now they are exposed as in reality they have nothing only memories .In any election where votes count Le Penn and Farage fail to get elected .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 18, 2019, 12:59:27 PM
John its obvious you subscribe to the old way of doing politics.appease everyone,with the end goal of making sure you get re_ elected. Take the likes of Finian Mcgrath,Boyd Barrett,Micheal Martin,etc etc just to name a few of them.they play to the gallery pretending they give a fukk about refugees being housed in places like rooskey,and other places.they do this for no other reason but to insure their re_election .they dont really give a fukk about refugees,but they think there is political gain in it.then you have the likes of president trump who openly shows his comtempt for refugees,and had the balls to tell them to fukk off along with the bleeding hearts brigade,and the result of all this is,that we now have the rise of populism because he started the ball rolling.now the far right are at last not afraid to speak out about their countries being invaded by illegal immigrants.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 18, 2019, 01:19:01 PM
If Trump had no time for refugees he wouldnt employ them .Actions speak louder than words .Trump would say anything to get elected .Without being elected these people have no power .We live in a virtual reality its all a game
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 18, 2019, 01:45:17 PM
Politics is a game,just like the pretence that there is such a thing as democracy.of course we all know that democracy as we knew it,died on the 29/03/2019 when the obstructionist in the UK failed to carry out the mandate they were given by their electorate.I was so incinced by this,that I actually wrote to the teaoseach asking to be removed from the voting registrar,based on my belief that democracy in the western world is dead.his office refered my email to a fella called John Paul Phelan who will address it I was advised
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 18, 2019, 02:26:43 PM
In the interests of democracy any Brexit deal should require approval of the electorate. If we consider just one of the complexities a Brexit that maintains open borders may be what a lot of Brexiteers want but may not be what the majority of Brexiteers want.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 18, 2019, 05:06:47 PM
Rat maybe my understanding of democracy is different to yours.my understanding is,when the electorate of a democratic country give their public representatives a mandate to fulfill what was voted upon ,and the result is in line with the wishes of the majority who voted,then the public representatives have a duty to implement UNEQUIVOCALLY the wishes of the people who gave them that mandate.now if those same politicians fail to do that,then how can they claim to live in a democracy ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 18, 2019, 05:08:12 PM
I hope somebody got word down to that fukking muslim loving cunt in Donegal that president Trump is completely exonerated
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 18, 2019, 05:17:15 PM
Of course I was talking about Nancy (let them all in open borders ) Palosi
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Bob Shillin on April 18, 2019, 06:19:14 PM
Consent is useless if it's not "informed" consent. Democracy would require that the plebs be fully informed of all consequences, which was not the case in that vovte.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 18, 2019, 10:28:58 PM
What he said ^, DM. Should an exit arrangement be agreed by parliament it makes sense that it ought to be approved by the electorate prior to implementation.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 18, 2019, 11:14:57 PM
Bob ill make this point to you like I have made to others.the general grip the remainners keep saying is that the electorate were lied to by the leave campaign .they say they were lied to about money that the NHS  and other institutions would now receive as a result of not having to pay the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels anymore.the fact is ,the British people did vote to leave the EU based on these promises,they voted to leave the European union based on IMMIGRATION and THAT was the fundamental reason for them voting leave.they did not need anyone like Nigel,or Boris influencing them in that regard,they could clearly see their country being invaded by illegal immigrants,muslims,Africans,etc etc
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 18, 2019, 11:23:04 PM
That may well be true DM, particularly among the less educated "working classes"... which goes back to my earlier observation i.e. leaving and maintaining immigration at it's current level or increasing the level may suit some Brexiteers but probably isn't what the majority want. Hence should some form of brexit be agreed in parliament it needs to be put to the people to ensure it meets with their expectations.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 19, 2019, 12:13:30 AM
Totally disagree with ya rat.the fact is to put this nack tp the people,would be a complete deniel of democracy,although having said that,im afraid they have already crossedthat bridge when they did not fulfil the mandate they were given to leave on 29/03/2019
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 19, 2019, 06:41:15 AM
Dollymount this is what British Democracy looks like ....https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/woman-dies-after-shots-fired-during-unrest-in-derry-38030911.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/woman-dies-after-shots-fired-during-unrest-in-derry-38030911.html) 
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 19, 2019, 09:45:46 AM
John I dont condone this for one minute,but I cannot see the connection between this kind of mindless violence,and the mandate to leave the EU not being upheld
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 19, 2019, 10:37:01 AM
Did Citizens of Northren Ireland vote to leave the EU when they exercised their Democratic vote ?Did Scotland vote to leave ?Did Gibraltar isle of Man Gurnsey Jersey vote to leave .England and the pribcipality of Wales voted to leave .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 19, 2019, 01:12:26 PM
Yes and collectively England,and Wales  votes outweigh the combined votes of Northern Ireland ,Scotland,and Gibraltar,together and that is how the kind of democracy that im familiar with is supposed to work,or am I wrong ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on April 19, 2019, 02:37:46 PM
Britain is enjoying a respite from BREXIT, not so Irish Taxi drivers who can't decide whether to work or not!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 19, 2019, 02:44:49 PM
I have no doubt ill be working ,but only after tonight match. against UCD
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on April 19, 2019, 02:52:54 PM
I have no doubt ill be working ,but only after tonight match. against UCD
BO-WES BO-WES, De NORTSIDE DE NORTSIDE!! 8)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 19, 2019, 04:44:06 PM
We are playing the scum from tallaght on tuesday as well.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on April 19, 2019, 06:31:35 PM
Yes and collectively England,and Wales  votes outweigh the combined votes of Northern Ireland ,Scotland,and Gibraltar,together and that is how the kind of democracy that im familiar with is supposed to work,or am I wrong ?
Gibraltar has slipped under the radar for a lot of people in the Brexit debate.  It's the second border that the UK has with the EU.  And after the UK leaves the EU, the EU will be honour-bound to support Spain in its desire to get Gibraltar back from the British.  There's a lot of other 'little' things that complicate Brexit as explained in this article...

Gibraltar after Brexit: why Spain, not Ireland will decide the UK’s fate (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/specialreports/gibraltar-after-brexit-why-spain-not-ireland-will-decide-the-uks-fate-908696.html)

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...This is the question of Gibraltar, which encapsulates many of the concerns that will haunt UK-EU relations once Brexit has taken place. It is one of the rare examples of a land border between Britain and the EU, and a site of extensive cross-border movement. Every day, roughly 10,000 Spanish workers travel to Gibraltar (population 33,000) to work, mainly from the Spanish town of La Línea de la Concepción.

Gibraltar is also an example of how tightly interdependent Britain is with certain EU countries. Britain is one of Spain’s largest economic partners. Gibraltar is a hub for the finance and insurance industries, online gambling and gaming.

At the same time, Gibraltar offers a glimpse of the pressure points in future UK-EU relations. Since Gibraltar opted out of the EU customs union in 1972, it has set much lower taxes than its European neighbour. It has, for example, a corporate tax rate of 10%, compared to Spain’s 25%. As a result, Spain has long regarded Gibraltar as a de facto tax haven, resenting its parasitical existence on its southern border. Gibraltar is, nevertheless, part of the European single market.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on April 20, 2019, 01:00:10 PM
British x pats living in Spain after Brexit will have to get a resedentia and register for tax .As Britain will be outside the EU british pensions will be treated as overseas earnings and become taxable .Read somewhere that  80% of British x pats living in other EU countries actually voted to leave .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on April 20, 2019, 03:08:39 PM
John there is no need for any remainers tothe worry themselves,brexit will never happen the obstructionist will see to that,just like they prevented brexit from happening on the 29/03/2019 ,,the same day as democracy died
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 10, 2019, 02:08:57 PM
I see Jeremy Hunt says Angla Merkle told the EU will negotiate a new deal,if thats the case wait and see do they hang Ireland out to dry
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 10, 2019, 02:34:13 PM
The real Irish problem is the Good Friday agreement in it any dispute between parties will be adjudicated on by the European Court of Justice .That is the real issue the Brits want control of their Laws .The Border issue is just a smoke screen If the Brits leave without a deal then there will be a hard border but the Big issue is the British will be ignoring an International Treaty registered with the UN .If the Brits dont stand by their International agreements then nobody will want to enter into agreements with them .If you cant trust the Brits you cant trust the £ .As I said The Brits dont give a fuck if Catholics and Protestants in Ulster murder the fuck out of each other Most Brits couldnt find Ulster on a map .If the Tories didnt need the Unionists to stay in power they would nearly offer it back to us and pay us to take it .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on June 10, 2019, 03:09:12 PM
A lot of people in the UK don't know where Dublin or Belfast are or that they are in two different countries albeit on one island.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 10, 2019, 03:34:32 PM
Hal Brexit is all about the Tory Party will they destroy the country or the Party .Sorry thing is they will take us down with them .They still think Europe cant go on without them the day of reconing is getting nearer .Still dont know if when it comes to it if either the UK or EU will actually pull the trigger .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 10, 2019, 04:20:05 PM
Another reason  why the british government cannot procrastinate is,the brexit party are there ready and waiting if there is any acting the bollox
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Lizzzy on June 10, 2019, 05:43:12 PM
A lot of people in the UK don't know where Dublin or Belfast are or that they are in two different countries albeit on one island.


Really !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on June 10, 2019, 06:31:51 PM
A lot of people in the UK don't know where Dublin or Belfast are or that they are in two different countries albeit on one island.
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Really !

Yeah!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 10, 2019, 06:36:24 PM
Are you sure?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Lizzzy on June 10, 2019, 06:54:46 PM
They were taking the piss hal.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on June 10, 2019, 06:59:18 PM
Nah...i speaketh the truth.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on June 11, 2019, 08:30:21 AM
A lot of people in the UK don't know where Dublin or Belfast are or that they are in two different countries albeit on one island.

Especially the ex-squaddies who "served" in Norn Iron. Met a few over the yrs in the catering game.........one in Bray who was convinced the Shankill Rd was only a stone's throw away.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on June 11, 2019, 03:10:44 PM
Missus is in the logistics biz....gets calls from people from the UK asking why stuff hasn't been picked up or delivered,when she checks tracking numbers she can see they're for the north and has to explain that they're ringing Dublin....which is in the south,some get annoyed that she can't help them.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 11, 2019, 03:28:30 PM
I've had both English and Yanks offering me their pounds and dollars in the car like it's a perfectly normal thing to do.

One American asked me why do we all hate the Queen, I told her I didn't really mind her she has nothing to do with our country.When I was in Mexico years ago I had to explain to the waiter where Ireland was in relation to the UK, he never heard of us.We're only a speckle on the map.If it wasn't for our alcoholic reputation and national drinking day, the Saint Patricks day festival half the world might never have heard of us either.

I had a Korean lady in the jammer today who admitted that Europeans all look the same obviously referencing the fact that everyone here thinks she's Chinese.That was reassuring.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on June 11, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
I've had both English and Yanks offering me their pounds and dollars in the car like it's a perfectly normal thing to do.

One American asked me why do we all hate the Queen, I told her I didn't really mind her she has nothing to do with our country.When I was in Mexico years ago I had to explain to the waiter where Ireland was in relation to the UK, he never heard of us.We're only a speckle on the map.If it wasn't for our alcoholic reputation and national drinking day, the Saint Patricks day festival half the world might never have heard of us either.

I had a Korean lady in the jammer today who admitted that Europeans all look the same obviously referencing the fact that everyone here thinks she's Chinese.That was reassuring.
Tell the Mexican Ireland is where their former President sought asylum.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/former-president-probed-on-mexican-drug-ring-26174907.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/former-president-probed-on-mexican-drug-ring-26174907.html)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 11, 2019, 03:57:44 PM
We probably thought he was Spanish..
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on June 12, 2019, 08:34:27 AM
South Americans know all about us...O'Higgins in Chile..they even named a football team after him. Most Mexicans are poorly educated anyway......as are the Irish who think it's ok to name their kids after communist wasters...Fella in me class in school's middle names were Guevara-Fidel.....first name was Shay.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 12, 2019, 08:58:29 AM
Listening to Borris and the Brexiteers Think their Dail will try to block a no deal Brexit .Borris will go all in and call Corbin an anti democrat and call a general election with the Conservatives saying vote for us and we Brexit deal or no deal within 60 days of the election .Paggo and the Irish Government are shitting themselves they were played by the EU and now they realize it .You can smell the panic ,Veradkar ,Coveney ,Paggo,Big Mickey and Mary the Mouth all unavailable for comment sending out the Lance Corporals of Irish Politics to do soundbites .Talking with an x localcouncillor he was telling me the Harris Site on the Nass Road is up for rent .It was meant to be rezoned Residential but the developers who were going to construct large tower blocks said with Brexit and G20 tax changes on the horizon they were unwilling to go forward with the investment until they knew they could get the rent roll they require .He said the big issue was the government wouldnt make any commitment on HAP or rent subsidies that they could rely on in the future .So Brexit or the threat of Brexit is having an effect in Ireland .The sooner the cunts make up their mind do it or dont but do something .Now here is the bit of you scratch my back ill do fuck all for you .Councillor says the Harris site and other proposed sites that were to be rezoned from industrial to residential will have to wait until there is a commitment to build as the owners are afraid if they are rezoned the government might introduce a vacant site tax and force them to build up or pay up .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on June 12, 2019, 09:00:29 AM
Chaos and confusion all around us...........nothing is anybody's fault and somebody else has to pay for it..........entitlement abounds.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 12, 2019, 09:17:33 AM
Lip this state is sitting on an entitlement nuclear time bomb .PENSIONS all the civil and public service pensions that are due .We already have the highest retirement age in the world our government STILL take a levy out of private pensions .Im 57 so I think I might get away with it but my kids will have to save for a pension their homes ans savings will be calculated as part of any state pension .I wonder when The old get to old to work and pay something twords their subsidised private rent out of their pensions where will they live will we build pensioner prisons with just a cell and a common room thrown in an on site nurse to give it a touch of humanity.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 12, 2019, 09:34:13 AM
There is no denying democracy died on the 29/03/2019 in western Europe.no matter what arguments are put forward,no matter cases are made,no matter what consequence are envisaged,thefact is the people of Britian voted to leave the European union,and their lawmakers failed to honour that mandate.there is no argument,they denied the fundamental foundation of society end of
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 12, 2019, 10:03:52 AM
There is no denying democracy died on the 29/03/2019 in western Europe.no matter what arguments are put forward,no matter cases are made,no matter what consequence are envisaged,thefact is the people of Britian voted to leave the European union,and their lawmakers failed to honour that mandate.there is no argument,they denied the fundamental foundation of society end of

Agree BUT like a fella marrying a Virgin only to find out her box stinks and she snores in bed .He can change his mind and divorce her .Brexit was a vanity product sold by Cameron to keep his party togeather .Be interesting to see now that they know if there was another vote how they would vote .I wouldnt like to call it .Think the Brits have dug in they dont like to be bullied by the EU when in fact its their own Government who fucked it up .There will be riots in Britain if they dont deliver Brexit and after they deliver it there will be riots in Britain .Norn ireland economy will collapse Irish economy will be hit for in my calculations about 7% of GDP and not the 1.8 Paggo says .I dont think people in Ireland realise the impact of a hard Brexit on this country would be the equivlent of an atom bomb being dropped on Dublin .Think it was Churchill said Britain is a Nation of Shopkeepers Brexit means they have nothing to sell and cut themselves off from the wholesalers .Brexit is really about old men with moustaches and old ladies with grey hair hateing foreigners and pining for the good old days of WW2 .Britain is a broken society you have the English and the fucking Rest .Jocks ,Welsh Ni none of them matter they are little Englanders .I personally think Britain if they leave will be the first Domino to fall others will follow .Dont think Ireland could survive in a free for all Europe .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 12, 2019, 10:14:19 AM
I think Cameron was a remainer if im not mistaken ? I think it was people like Boris,and Nigel who pushed brexit.Boris is looking like a shoe in now for leader John !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 12, 2019, 10:24:11 AM
I think Cameron was a remainer if im not mistaken ? I think it was people like Boris,and Nigel who pushed brexit.Boris is looking like a shoe in now for leader John !
 


Should be but the numbers dont add up in parliament .Today they vote to ban a no deal brexit .Here is my best guess Boris sells Mays Deal to his Brexiteers as the only way out and because its the blond Haired Blue Eyed Boy they go for it Borris delivers Brexit in October then Goes for a General Election to get a majority to backtrack on the deal .Brexit any Brexit will impact Ireland .Brexit will happen with Mays deal at the heart of it until Borris can assassinate the DUP then all the talk will be around a border poll to off load the North by 2025 or 30 ,Leaving the UK free to do what ever deals they like .Britain will offer billions over a few years to the Irish government to take the North off their hands .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 12, 2019, 10:31:25 AM
Id say tour right about a border poll,but I think its more likely to be pushed by Mary lo,then the brits
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 12, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Id say tour right about a border poll,but I think its more likely to be pushed by Mary lo,then the brits

Dont think Mary will be around after the next election Bad Presidential,Bad European bad locals under her leadership .SF will drop her return to being a Republican Party and less of the Socialism/Marksism/Trotskisim .Thats the problem SF now have they dont know who or what they are .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on June 12, 2019, 11:03:08 AM
China's version of communism is on the agenda for the E.U. Everything you do and say will count as merits or demerits.....your "entitlements" will be awarded according to how useful you are in a "Big Community".
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 12, 2019, 02:40:49 PM
Yes SF certainly did change their agenda once Mary Lo became president.I always felt she was never really committed to the republican cause.like you say John, she was always much more interested policies you have outlined.I think Peirce Docherty would have been a good choice in hindsight
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Vikkiz on June 12, 2019, 08:17:35 PM
There is no denying democracy died on the 29/03/2019 in western Europe.no matter what arguments are put forward,no matter cases are made,no matter what consequence are envisaged,thefact is the people of Britian voted to leave the European union,and their lawmakers failed to honour that mandate.there is no argument,they denied the fundamental foundation of society end of
It was only an opinion poll that the citizens voted in. Not a referendum. It was only to show what they would like. The government could have simply ignored the result.

Britain is fucked either way
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 12, 2019, 10:11:18 PM
It most certainly was a referendum,and one that the result of which was not honoured,or respected
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 13, 2019, 06:01:01 AM
The Irish economy will be hit three times harder than Germany and worse than any other developed nation if the US imposes a blanket trade tariff, the IMF has warned.

A new study from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) put Ireland top of a list of countries that will be worst hit by US tariffs.

The study models the impact of a potential 5pc tariff imposed across the board by the US. It was released yesterday amid a series of trade disputes that have pitted the United States against China and against some of Washington's closest allies, including the EU.

Ireland's goods exports, it calculates, would fall by more than 0.6pc.

That's more than three times the drop experienced by Germany, which is the target of Donald Trump's threat to impose tariffs "until no Mercedes models rolled on Fifth Avenue in New York" as part of his bid to get more of the products sold in the US built there by American workers.

Based on last year's exports from here to the US that figure is equal to lost exports of €234m.

In May, a report by the Commerce Department stated that imports of foreign-made cars were "weakening our internal economy" in a way that was damaging the economic security of the United States, highlighting a drop in the share of the car market held by US owned companies to just 22pc now from 67pc in 1985.

President Trump has delayed bringing in the tariffs on car imports for six months in order to give the EU, Japan and other major exporters a chance to negotiate on the issue.

The EU is the most export-exposed bloc of any of the world's major economies and Brussels has said it will respond to any US tariffs with levies on imports of US goods.

"About 70pc of European exports are linked to supply chains. Therefore, shocks affecting existing trade flows between the major trade hubs - the United States, China, and Germany - could affect European economies through those supply chains," the IMF report said.

Ireland's exposure to the car industry is tiny but the State's exports to the US are huge. The Irish Whiskey Association, for example, has already warned of the potential for damage to the industry here from tariff escalations. Ireland is a key part of the global supply chains that now criss-cross the world, with manufacturers here shipping goods globally, such as semiconductors or pharmaceuticals.

Some 28pc of the €140bn of goods exported each year go the US, but medical and pharmaceuticals, whose output is dominated by US companies, accounted for a third of all exports.

As well as accounting for a huge chunk of exports, multinational firms accounted for 77pc of the €10.4bn in company taxes paid last year.

Washington has already signalled its displeasure with Ireland over trade, adding it to a list of countries that are on a currency manipulation watch - which means they believe that the country has deliberately engineered a weak currency against the dollar so as to win market share.

Germany and Italy were also on the list among countries that use the euro. Most economists agree that the exchange rate at which Germany joined the euro was too low and say that it has given German exporters a huge advantage.

The apparent peace between Washington and Brussels on trade just now is down to a truce struck last year by Jean-Claude Juncker in a meeting with Mr Trump.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Vikkiz on June 15, 2019, 10:49:24 PM
It most certainly was a referendum,and one that the result of which was not honoured,or respected
It wasn’t a referendum, it was a vanity vote to ask the public what they would like.
The government could have said “ stuff how ye voted”
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 16, 2019, 07:08:24 PM
Watching the candidates minus Boris debating on TV FFS a bigger crowd of truly ignorant fucktards never applied for a job .The Rory Lad knows the game is up dosent want to leave but the rest wouldnt get a start in Spar .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 18, 2019, 06:17:55 PM
Dominic Raab eliminated from british leadership race.im very disappointed,I thought he would have been there,or thereabouts.im sickened t see that remainer prick Rory Stewart still there,the cunt is gaining momentum.he is the only remainer in the race.it would just my luck that the bollox would turn out to be Boris,s main challenger
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 18, 2019, 06:27:23 PM
Boris is a Spasticated Dillitant but Britain is a broken society .Morons ligning the racecource today to see the Queen in her horse and carrage while others qued for food parcels .The bit that amuses me is people thinking that Javid has any chance of leading the Conservatives .They hate foreigners so the son of a Pakastani bus driver is unelectable .Dont be surprised Gove pulls out and supports Boris and none of the others get the amount of votes to finish second .and Boris is a Coronation and Boris threatens a no deal withdrawl but Parliament says No and Boris calls an election promising that if he wins they leave .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 18, 2019, 06:38:21 PM
I already stopped voting myself because as I said before democracy died on the 29/03/19 when british politicians fail to honour the mandate they were instructed to carry out.if brexit does not happen on 31/10/19 ,it will just be confirmation of my belief
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 23, 2019, 08:05:00 PM
@ Dollymount I spent today at a seminar with unassociated Economists and Political analysts discussing Brexit I nearly got attacked when I put forward the following Politics is dead long live politics .I suggested that Boris will get elected and to avoid a no deal Brexit he loses a confidence vote .The Tory party will be replaced by The Brexit Party and Labour will be replaced by the Liberals as the two largest parties ,so the next British Priminister will not be A member of the Conservatives or Labour and faced with getting such a slaughtering in the General Election there will be a second remain or leave referendum with a guarentee to leave or stay on the day after the vote. On a show of hands the opinion of the Group was the Brits revoke article 50 and remain .Although remain is the final result nobody agreed that the Tory and Labour get wiped out .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 23, 2019, 08:24:50 PM
No I wouldnt agree either,althogh I'd love to see the brexitend party in power.its unthinkable for me anyway that brexit may not happen
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 26, 2019, 07:32:36 PM
John do you think Hunt is a serious challenger to Boris,or do you think Boris is a shoe in ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 26, 2019, 08:14:54 PM
Two clowns generalelection in November whoever wins .The Sodomite Prince is getting worried his bulletproof backstop will lead to a fucking disaster .Stupit cunt got played by the EU .Him and Boris will both share the same ignamony of being national leaders who never won an election .You need to wonder what sort of fucktards we have running the country bringing in a budget three weeks before the Brexit withdrawl date .If there is a hard Brexit the Irish Economy implodes by about 7% minus the forcast 3% growth forcast in the budget so a difference of 10% of GNP and they cant or wont delay the budget day .Hard Brexit and 50,000 jobs lost in a few months and about 200,000 jobs gone by Christmas 2020 .Britain is Bolloxed it dosent really matter to them what they do it will still be bolloxed but they will take us with them.The real Brexit Danger is Boris or the Brits might support Trump in Invading Iran and starting WW3 just to show they still think they are a world power .If the Tories think that the Government will fall the day after Boris gets selected and there will be a General Election then Boris wins by about 70% to 30 %.The real powerbroker is the French Nazi Macron he might force the Brits to Shit or stand up on Halloween and refuse an extension on the Grounds the Brits are acting the Cock .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 26, 2019, 08:56:42 PM
Dollymount here is the problem in a nut shell.....Europe's eyes will then fix on the UK's new prime minister. But also on Dublin. The other 26 EU countries are watching for any sign of wiggle-room on the backstop - if Ireland moves, the rest of the EU is likely to follow.

And, if it does come to a no-deal, the EU wants guarantees and details from Ireland on how it intends to protect the single market from post-Brexit UK.  The Dilemma If the Sodomite Prince refuses to budge then there will be a hard border and FG will be lucky to hold on to 20 seats in the Next General Election If he does move then he and his Bulletproof Backstop look like politicalbolloxology .He backed himself into a corner now he has to surrender to save the deal for the EU .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on June 26, 2019, 09:43:56 PM
FG need a.....six point plan!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 27, 2019, 10:16:05 AM
There you go Dollymount government say hard brexit will be no problem I say Irish economy will collapse .Lets see who is right .....The Government is facing serious trouble. The conditions exist for a near perfect storm with Budget 2020, Brexit and the backstop. They are all coming closer together.

Start with Brexit and the demand that Britain signs up to the Northern Ireland backstop, designed to prevent any change to how the two jurisdictions on this island interact.

Until relatively recently, many smart and informed people thought it impossible that Britain would storm out of the EU without arrangements to smooth its exit.

They held that view because the implications of crashing out in an uncontrolled manner are huge and, to a considerable extent, unknowable - such a rupture has never happened before. Why would any government take such a huge and avoidable risk?

This thinking underpinned the logic of putting the dramatic backstop gambit on the negotiating table in November 2017. Also important was the fundamentally weak position of Britain as one country against 27 in the exit negotiations with the EU.

These factors made Ireland and the rest of the EU calculate that Britain would have to swallow the backstop.

These calculations may ultimately prove correct. If they are, the next British prime minister, almost certainly Boris Johnson, won't eat his cake and still have it in the autumn. Instead, he will have to choke down a large slab of backstop humble pie. In that case, Britain will leave the EU on Halloween, but because it will enter a transition period of de facto continued membership, there will be little if any economic impact for anyone, including for this island.

In that scenario, Budget 2020, which will have been unveiled a few weeks earlier, will give yet another fillip to an economy that should still be growing strongly. The Government confirmed that on Tuesday with its Summer Economic Statement.

But the Government also knows that the assumption that no British government would risk a no-deal Brexit was wrong.

It is clear to even a casual observer of British politics that the backstop is the issue that brought down Theresa May and further radicalised pro-Brexit supporters.

For many of them, a no-deal Brexit is a 'clean break' from an entity they increasingly despise because they view it as attempting to humiliate Britain, among other things. The risk that the backstop would lead to this unhappy juncture has always been real, as this column has been pointing out since it was put on the table 19 months ago.

The time may come in the autumn when Ireland faces a choice between either keeping the backstop and having a disastrous no-deal exit, including a border on this island, or making a major concession on it.

If the gambit has obviously failed by then, it is clear where this island's interests would lie. But let's park that issue for the moment and look at what the Government is cooking up in the event that both sovereign governments on these islands commit giant acts of self-harm later in the year.

In last Tuesday's Summer Statement, the Government set out what it believes will happen to the public finances in a no-deal scenario. In short, the mandarins' figures show a deterioration in the budgetary position, but only a very modest one and certainly not one that would mean the public finances might run out of control.

Is this realistic?

Given that nothing like Brexit has happened before, it is impossible to be sure how the Irish economy and the public finances would be affected.

As such, the very benign outcome for Ireland set out on Tuesday cannot be ruled out entirely.

But a no-deal Brexit is much more likely to be a lot less benign for the public finances than the Government is now claiming. It would disrupt imports of goods - from food to fuel - that individuals consume every day and that businesses need to stay in business. It would damage the tourism sector, as the British pound would slump and make Ireland a more expensive destination to visit. The negative impact on the farming and food sector has been much discussed.

A crash-out Brexit would also generate uncertainty in Border areas and for companies selling into the EU market because the Government won't set out how it will fulfil its obligations to maintain the integrity of the EU single market.

Given all this, the very modest effect on the public finance foreseen in this week's Summer Economic Statement appears wholly unrealistic.

Another way of illustrating this is to consider what happened to the budgetary position the last time the Irish economy was hit by a modest deterioration in the external environment in a period when the domestic economy was doing well (as it is now). That happened in the early 2000s when a shallow international recession took place. That slump was not strong enough to cause a recession in Ireland. It merely caused the Irish economy to slow.

Yet despite this the government's budget position swung from a surplus of almost 5pc of GDP in 2000 to a deficit by 2002 (a 5.4 percentage point deterioration). Growth in government revenues in 2001 and 2002 fell to less than half the rate recorded in the previous few years. This shows just how sensitive Ireland's public finances can be even to mild shocks.

Now compare what happened then to the Government's latest projections for the most extreme budgetary scenario after a no-deal Brexit. Tuesday's figures suggest that a budget surplus of 0.2pc of GDP this year would turn to a deficit of 1pc by 2021. That is a swing of only 1.2 percentage points, far less than in 2000-02.

The Summer Statement correctly says that a no-deal Brexit would have "a severe impact on the Irish economy with output and employment adversely affected, especially in the short-term".

The notion that such an outcome would have such a small impact on the public finances, and one that was much smaller than the mild international downturn of 2000-02, is simply not credible.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 29, 2019, 02:52:35 PM
@ Dollymount You might be right Boris might fuck off in October .Britains Top Civil Servant reported ....Britain is in ‘pretty good shape’ for a no deal Brexit, according to the Head of the Home Civil Service, Sir Mark Sedwill.

In early March he told the cabinet that ‘no deal’ would trigger a ten per cent spike in food prices, send businesses to the wall, damage the police’s ability to keep people safe and plunge the economy into recession.

But in the weeks leading up to March 29 and since, the Government has reached many formal and informal agreements with the EU. These agreements safeguard citizens’ rights, security arrangements, students’ rights, and measures to preserve the flow of trade, such as customs procedures at the Channel ports, landing rights for aircraft, permits for Eurostar, driving permits for hauliers, recognition of safety certificates, allowing live animals and animal products swift entry, etc.


We have also reached trade agreements covering most of our exports to countries with which the EU has trade agreements. We have become a member of the Common Transit Convention, so hauliers only need to make customs declarations and pay import duties when they reach their final destination.

Sir Mark has recognised these new facts, so he could truthfully tell the Institute of Government on June 13: “I think we’re in pretty good shape for it. We did one of the most impressive pieces of cross-government work I’ve experienced in my career to make No Deal preparations in the run-up to the [original] March-April deadline.”

So, fears of ‘crashing out’ and of ‘cliff-edges’ are out of date. Forecasts of economic doom are not realistic.


I still think it wont happen but the Brits are preparing for leaving with or without a deal .Unlike the Sodomite Prince and Paggo .Dont be surprised to see Leo groveling and begging the Brits and the EU to save his Bulletproof Backstop .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on June 29, 2019, 03:52:35 PM
It will be interesting now to see what the EU  are.made of.will they tell the brits to fukk off,or will they hang us out to dry and concede on the backstop
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on June 29, 2019, 04:04:38 PM
Leo got played by the EU now his Political Life depends on NO SURRENDER .I think Clark and Greeve will bring down the Government if they go for no deal The way they will do it is not vote against the Government but resign their seats meaning the government lose their majority  but the Traitors in SF who refuse to defend their country against financial ruin by not taking their Westminster seats and bringing down the Tory idiots have a lot to answer for ..Fat Mary dosent realise the reason people are deserting SF is because they are fucking wasters have stood for nothing  .Brexit wont lead to a United Ireland it will just polarise opinion in the North and lead to more violence .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 03, 2019, 07:06:33 AM
Dalymount will be so pleaed to find out France the country that ignores the European Financial rules the most just got control of the ECB and The Germans who want to rearm got the Presidency of the EU when I say Germany want to rearm I mean they want the likes of us to pay for it with a European Army .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2019, 07:18:55 AM
Funny enough I dont ever remember France being in trouble with the EU for ignoring the financial rules,but ITALY ,,on the other hand  are constantly in trouble for it
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 03, 2019, 07:32:48 AM
France is a basket case highest amount of civil servants 35 hour working week .Macron was elected to sort it out but failed .The German Woman is inept and corrupt she is being investigated in Germany for handing out contracts bit like our scumbags but her big idea was a european standing army so that will be her big idea and will cost every EU country 2% of GDP we cant build houses but we can invest in an army ..You do know the Sodomite Prince signed up to this the day before they thought FF might bring them down  two years ago .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 03, 2019, 09:17:05 AM
Any news on the price of the Sliced Pan ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on July 03, 2019, 09:31:49 AM
Any news on the price of the Sliced Pan ?
What's a boxer's favourite Sambo ?

A Knuckle Sandwich
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 03, 2019, 09:38:01 AM
Any news on the price of the Sliced Pan ?

you will be down the penny dinners Ken if Brexit happens and if it dosent and the EU sells out the farmers bread willbe a few kopecks per slice
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 03, 2019, 09:48:37 AM
Any news on the price of the Sliced Pan ?
you will be down the penny dinners Ken if Brexit happens and if it dosent and the EU sells out the farmers bread willbe a few kopecks per slice
And 'IF' me Aunt had balls she would be me Uncle !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 03, 2019, 10:03:45 AM
IF brexit happens but the spunkmonkey WILL sell out Irish Farmers and like Boris be A Prime Minister who never got elected Prime Minister .Dont think FG will hold on to more than 35 seats in the next Dail as Farmers desert the two faced shower of cunts .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 03, 2019, 03:25:10 PM
GET A GUN GET A BIG GUN Listening to Paggo and the Budgetry Oversight Committee the daft fucker says there will be no job losses due to Brexit just slower job creation .The Gobshite is developing a budget for Lilliput or Disneyland a total fucking economic retard .He still thinks 2.2 million people will have jobs after Brexit .Love the fact he says he will not introduce a second budget take that as meaning the Sodomite Prince will call an election in November if the Brits dont crash out on Halloween .Listening to this mupped the Government are throwing a fist full of Hail Marys and a couple of Our Fathers at the budget hopeing everything will be grand .Ignoring that the Brits say they will bring in a 12.5% corporate tax rate and the G 20 want a pay where you buy incom tax that will stop Google.Microsoft Apple robbing tax from countries by laundering their profits down the Docks .We are doing exactly what we did before the last crash putting everything we own in the pot hopeing that nobody calls our bluff .Pay down your debt or restructure it .The mand driving the economy dosent have a driving licence he is a fucking economic mong .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 03, 2019, 05:38:51 PM
Any news on the price of the Sliced Pan ?
Brennans is still €1.50 in Tesco/Aldi but our local Eurospar is charging €1.90....the beardy little bollix!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 03, 2019, 08:39:54 PM
How much in Lidl?

P.S. Watch the best before dates in Tesco. That time I shopped in your local Tesco there were no fewer than three choices of BB date on their stock of Brennans bread.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 03, 2019, 09:00:58 PM
I like to have an oul squeeze of the pan before i purchase...and have a look at the BB date.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on July 04, 2019, 09:25:19 AM
Are brown and white pans the same price ?

I prefer the brown , supposed to be better for you
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2019, 09:57:56 AM
Yis are begining to sound like auld mister Brennen.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on July 04, 2019, 10:06:05 AM
Yis are begining to sound like auld mister Brennen.
What do bakers give people on special occasions?
Flours
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2019, 10:20:26 AM
Your scrapping the barrel a bit there STC
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on July 04, 2019, 10:43:42 AM
Your scrapping the barrel a bit there STC
Soz DM
What do you say when you see a pig making bread?

He’s bacon
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 04, 2019, 11:16:41 AM
Yis are begining to sound like auld mister Brennen.

Shame he didn't pass on his values to young Mr. Brennan. Today's bread the day after tomorrow seems to work these days, at least for Tesco, SuperValu (Moriarty's) and Lidl.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on July 04, 2019, 11:21:19 AM
Yis are begining to sound like auld mister Brennen.

Shame he didn't pass on his values to young Mr. Brennan. Today's bread the day after tomorrow seems to work these days, at least for Tesco, SuperValu (Moriarty's) and Lidl.
It's awkward if your a small guy like me trying to get the Oldest Pans at the back of the top shelf.

I usually wait for a tall busty blonde to arrive and politely ask her would she mind checking out the dates and getting me the oldest one.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 04, 2019, 11:46:50 AM
At last somebody talking the truth ...THE chances of Ireland being hit by another recession are "100pc" the boss of the National Treasury Management Agency (NTMA) has warned.

Chief Executive Conor O'Kelly also told the Dáil's public spending watchdog that "we're in the permanent contingency business in Ireland" given the more than €200bn scale of the national debt.

He also said; "that's what we believe is the most prudent thing to do."

Mr O'Kelly cited the Brexit, uncertainty in the Italian economy, and international tax changes as risks to the Irish economy.

But he warned the "chances of a recession in Ireland is 100pc", adding "we can't afford not to have contingencies in place".

Mr O'Kelly is this morning appearing before the Dáil's Public Accounts Committee (PAC) to discuss the NTMA's financial statements from 2018.


AND IT WILL BE QUICKER THAN THEY THINK IFFFFF Brexit HAPPENS THE IRISH ECONOMY CRASHES AND BURNS IN SIX MONTHS .ECB prints more Funny Money USA retaliates with Tarriffs as they think the ECB is waging a Currency War .REDUCE YOUR DEBT OR RESTRUCTURE IT .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 04, 2019, 11:57:03 AM
EU are gonna flood the market with South American beef to reduce emissions from cattle and free up land to build houses for immigrants... with or without Brexit.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 04, 2019, 12:11:29 PM
Rodent in 2012 I got a gig off Roys to Address Chief Account Managers from most of the Inward Investers in Ireland at Microsofts HQ in Leopardstown .I predicted Brexit and suggested Ireland will have tothink about going with them .Ireland is trading insolvent our interest on debt is unsustainable even at artifically low interest rates .Trump is going to wage a currency War on the ECB who have been manipulating the value of the Euro to increase compedativeness .the Pigs .Ireland ,Portugal,Italy and Greece have extend and Pretend economic forecasts where they ignore the reality of the situation they are in .WE ARE BROKE as a country but the Sodomite Prince and Paggo are spending on Kids hospitals ,Broadband wage increases to try win another election .The EU dont give a fuck about Irish Beef or Irish tax rates they know we are FUCKING DIRT SCUM TAX ROBBING BASTARDS every bit of Brexit Support we get from the EU will cost us in cold hard cash that we dont have .Next collapse and our government will bail us all in like Cypress Did by taking your savings and shaving your pension pot again .Brexit is Irelands opportunity ,We should default on ALL National Debt leave the EU that solves the Backstop dilemma and Im sure the Brits would finance us again while we get back on our feet .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 04, 2019, 12:14:24 PM
Could we go back to using the pound - the real one with HRH the Queen's head on it, not that punt yoke?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 04, 2019, 12:17:56 PM
Could we go back to using the pound - the real one with HRH the Queen's head on it, not that punt yoke?

we would probably tie the irish Punt to the Pound our new pound night have Boyzone or U2 pictures on them with the harp replaced with the rainbow flag .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on July 04, 2019, 12:17:58 PM
Ah fcuk it , change our Flag and National Anthem while your at it. All wight Guvnor
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 04, 2019, 12:23:55 PM
Could we stay in Europe and build a wall instead?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 04, 2019, 12:28:18 PM
Greek Election will be a game changer ,Center Right government supported by the Communists .greece might default AGAIN that will undermine the EUro and could lead to its total collapse .Veradkar might just be the most inept Notional leader he is an EU Lackie next election FG will be lucky to hold 30 seats .If Brexit hits in October dont be surprised if Leo runs to the country knowing FG will lose but FF if the win will take the blame for the Sodomite Princes Bulletproof Backstop .If I was addressing Microsoft today I would predict the EUro Currency will be gone by 2025 .The ECB have printed so much of it they cannot back it up with real assetts so in reality it is worthless .Crypto Currencies will be the future .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 04, 2019, 12:32:04 PM
If we built a wall could we make the Brits pay for it? ... and, conversely, if the Brits built a wall could they make us pay for it and, if so, would the debt fall to Eire or EU?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 04, 2019, 12:41:32 PM
Could we stay in Europe and build a wall instead?

Europe donr really want us we are an Island of Crooks robbing coin from every other European Government .Paggo the Auctioneer turned Politician acting as an economist says Brexit will only impact 1.2% on GDP .My maths says 7% immediate contraction and zero groth for the next year so thats another -3.5% so the real impact of Brexit on the Irish Economy willbe nearer 10% contraction or in simple terms total collapse .I would think the Sodomite Prince regrets his Macho stance he was played by the EU who wanted to force a no Brexit using the Backstop as leaverage .He painted himself into a corner and as he knows fuck all about Politics has left himself no way out without being seen as a traitor and that bullet proof backstop might get turned into a bulletproof vest .We are in trouble Rodent any contraction in GNP and the Fiscal Treaty comes into play the one we voted for .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 04, 2019, 12:49:27 PM
If bread does go up by 5c do you reckon it could go down by 5p in Britain and, if so, would the potential savings for folk living close to the border (assuming any wall takes as long to build as my shed) impact on GNP in a positive or negative way if at all?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on July 04, 2019, 12:51:38 PM
If bread does go up by 5c do you reckon it could go down by 5p in Britain and, if so, would the potential savings for folk living close to the border (assuming any wall takes as long to build as my shed) impact on GNP in a positive or negative way if at all?
Probably depends on how much bread you eat
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 04, 2019, 12:56:39 PM
Ireland has a "mountain of debt" that currently stands at €205 billion, some four times higher than it was in the 2000s, the Chief Executive of the National Treasury Management Agency (NTMA) has said.

Conor O'Kelly told the Public Accounts Committee that Ireland has paid €33bn in interest the national debt in the last five years, and €60bn in the last decade.

He has cautioned that "Ireland is not in a good position" when it comes to our national debt.

On a positive note, he welcomed Christine Lagarde's nomination as President of the ECB, as she is "considered to be a dovish" and the markets have already reacted positively to news of her impending appointment. He said: "The interest rate environment looks like it is going to remain low for the foreseeable future."

In his opening remarks to the committee, Mr O'Kelly said: "We have paid €33bn in interest over the last five years. This interest bill is enormous. We paid €60bn in interest over the last decade. That compares to €20bn in the previous decade. That is all to do with the elevated amount of debts rather than the rate of interest which a lot of people concentrate on."

He said that Ireland relies on foreign capital for 90% of its borrowings and he acknowledged that is "unusual" for European and global sovereigns. He said this leaves us "slightly more vulnerable than others in relation to financial markets."

He said the interest bill has moved down from €7.5bn to €4.5bn and this has occurred because of the interest environment created by the ECB.

On Ms Lagarde's nomination he said: "Since Christine Lagarde's potential appointment as ECB President interest rates have fallen very dramatically further. Over the last 48 hours there has been quite a dramatic move in bond markets to yields. She is considered to be a dovish, potentially, ECB President versus some of the alternatives and the market has reacted and moved rates even lower. So the interest rate environment looks like it is going to remain low for the foreseeable future.

"Because this extraordinary low interest rate environment happened when this environment had its greatest refinancing needs and at a time where the credit rating of the country was improving, those three things came together and that environment is what allowed Ireland save so much interest."

He said that Ireland's gross debt has remained unchanged since the financial crisis and stands at €205bn, and that is "four times what it was in the 2000s and I describe this as a mountain of debt".

"There is only one way to get down a mountain and is very slowly and very carefully and not take any alternative routes and not to go back up the mountain.

"We have to try and find a way to reduce this debt over time. It will only happen very slowly but we have got to stick to the path and do that because the risks to the country of having very high debt levels are the risks that any household or business would have of carrying high risk."

He said that Ireland's debt to Government revenue stands at 251%, one of the highest in Europe and our interest bill, even though it has come down, as a percentage of Government revenue stands at 6%. "That is still way higher than our European peers, even at today's interests, even with savings we have had, that is where it still ranks.

"Ireland is not in a good position from a debt point of view," he said.

Sinn Féin's David Cullinane asked: "Before the crash came it was about €40bn and it is now €205bn. So the vast majority of it is crash or austerity-related, either through bank recapitalisation or through servicing state expenditure."
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on July 04, 2019, 01:22:27 PM
Could we stay in Europe and build a wall instead?

(https://i.postimg.cc/BLCB7BbB/Irishwall.gif) (https://postimg.cc/BLCB7BbB)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 04, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
I was going to complement you on the literacy of your last contribution erm - probably the only time I made it past the first line of any of your contributions - until I read this bit:

"... the risks to the country of having very high debt levels are the risks that any household or business would have of carrying high risk."

Indeed, carrying high risk is a risky business... what absolute drivel.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 04, 2019, 01:34:37 PM
I was going to complement you on the literacy of your last contribution erm - probably the only time I made it past the first line of any of your contributions - until I read this bit:

"... the risks to the country of having very high debt levels are the risks that any household or business would have of carrying high risk."

Indeed, carrying high risk is a risky business... what absolute drivel.

That statement comes fromthe Man charged with borrowing coin on behalf of the Nation .Intelectuals all of them .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 04, 2019, 01:37:09 PM
Should we be encouraged that he knows that risk is risky or take comfort in the fact that we have faceless bureaucrats in Europe to protect us from ourselves?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 04, 2019, 02:02:44 PM
They encouraged us to vote for the Fiscal Treaty Rodent limits what we can borrow as a proportion of our GDP plus the amount on NationalDebt any slow down in GDP and we are bolloxed written into the constitution .Income tax raises and spending cuts on the way .The Sodomite Prince cannot wrap himself in the Rainbow Flag anymore we are Fucked .We hade the highest retirement age 68 in the OECD you cant get fulldole until you are 25 .Thin edge of the wedge Rodent I recon they will lookfor another 400 euro in tax per person in the budget with increase in Property tax ,carbon tax reduction in deductables cuts to mortgage interest and pension contributions tax free allowances .If I was a Gambling Man I would not rule out the IMF taking over the running of the Country .Our debt was 40 billion before the crash we ponied up 60 Billion for banks ,Where did the other 100+ billion in debt come from .GET A GUN GET A BIG GUN .Im going full time trying to pay off my debts .The last recession snookup on us this one is charging straight at us and we know its coming .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on July 04, 2019, 10:56:20 PM
Ireland has a "mountain of debt" that currently stands at €205 billion, some four times higher than it was in the 2000s, the Chief Executive of the National Treasury Management Agency (NTMA) has said.

Conor O'Kelly told the Public Accounts Committee that Ireland has paid €33bn in interest the national debt in the last five years, and €60bn in the last decade.

He has cautioned that "Ireland is not in a good position" when it comes to our national debt.

On a positive note, he welcomed Christine Lagarde's nomination as President of the ECB, as she is "considered to be a dovish" and the markets have already reacted positively to news of her impending appointment. He said: "The interest rate environment looks like it is going to remain low for the foreseeable future."

In his opening remarks to the committee, Mr O'Kelly said: "We have paid €33bn in interest over the last five years. This interest bill is enormous. We paid €60bn in interest over the last decade. That compares to €20bn in the previous decade. That is all to do with the elevated amount of debts rather than the rate of interest which a lot of people concentrate on."

He said that Ireland relies on foreign capital for 90% of its borrowings and he acknowledged that is "unusual" for European and global sovereigns. He said this leaves us "slightly more vulnerable than others in relation to financial markets."

He said the interest bill has moved down from €7.5bn to €4.5bn and this has occurred because of the interest environment created by the ECB.

On Ms Lagarde's nomination he said: "Since Christine Lagarde's potential appointment as ECB President interest rates have fallen very dramatically further. Over the last 48 hours there has been quite a dramatic move in bond markets to yields. She is considered to be a dovish, potentially, ECB President versus some of the alternatives and the market has reacted and moved rates even lower. So the interest rate environment looks like it is going to remain low for the foreseeable future.

"Because this extraordinary low interest rate environment happened when this environment had its greatest refinancing needs and at a time where the credit rating of the country was improving, those three things came together and that environment is what allowed Ireland save so much interest."

He said that Ireland's gross debt has remained unchanged since the financial crisis and stands at €205bn, and that is "four times what it was in the 2000s and I describe this as a mountain of debt".

"There is only one way to get down a mountain and is very slowly and very carefully and not take any alternative routes and not to go back up the mountain.

"We have to try and find a way to reduce this debt over time. It will only happen very slowly but we have got to stick to the path and do that because the risks to the country of having very high debt levels are the risks that any household or business would have of carrying high risk."

He said that Ireland's debt to Government revenue stands at 251%, one of the highest in Europe and our interest bill, even though it has come down, as a percentage of Government revenue stands at 6%. "That is still way higher than our European peers, even at today's interests, even with savings we have had, that is where it still ranks.

"Ireland is not in a good position from a debt point of view," he said.

Sinn Féin's David Cullinane asked: "Before the crash came it was about €40bn and it is now €205bn. So the vast majority of it is crash or austerity-related, either through bank recapitalisation or through servicing state expenditure."
An utter Cunt:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/christine-lagarde-convicted-imf-head-found-guilty-of-negligence-in-fraud-trial-a7484586.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/christine-lagarde-convicted-imf-head-found-guilty-of-negligence-in-fraud-trial-a7484586.html)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Bob Shillin on July 04, 2019, 11:13:07 PM
Think she also criticised, wa it the Greeks fornot paying tax while she had a tax free salary Y/N?

One good thing about the propose Argy beef deal is that big Phil Irish water gobshite might not be re nominated by Leo.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 05, 2019, 11:58:41 AM
The rules only apply to us fools!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 05, 2019, 01:44:16 PM
IT STARTS ......Minister for Social Protection Regina Doherty is unable to guarantee any increase in the old-age pension in this year's budget because of the threat of a no-deal Brexit.

The minister refused to be drawn on what plans she has for social welfare increases, including the old-age pension, at a pre-budget forum in Castle today. The government has raised social welfare entitlements by €5-a-week in each of the last three budgets.

But with Brexit looming, Ms Doherty said she couldn't guarantee any increase in the budget this October. "No because I can’t guarantee the outcome of Brexit," she said. "So until we are sure of what we are dealing with next year I don’t think it would be wise to give anybody a promise at this stage, no."

She also warned that the annual €5 increases risked diminishing the value of the payments to those who in receipt of welfare entitlements. The Fine Gael TD said targeted increases would more more effective.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 05, 2019, 01:49:37 PM
Guarantee TD salary increases won't be affected.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 05, 2019, 01:56:19 PM
Guarantee TD salary increases won't be affected.

TD pensions as most of them will lose their seats .Dont think Irish people realise the effect of Brexit will last a generation .Brexit will do more damage toIreland than a dozen nuclear bombs .We are fucked .Hal Im running for cover looking for a PAYE job but fat 57 year olds are not in big demand .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 05, 2019, 02:36:07 PM
I thought you were goin back to the tools John?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 05, 2019, 04:50:23 PM
I thought you were goin back to the tools John?

Truthfully not capable of a hard days graft 13 years riving knocks the edge off you .Plus you need millions of certs now just to walk on toa site .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 05, 2019, 09:30:33 PM
Very true.....i find it hard to get my glass hammer or skirting ladder out of the shed these days!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 06, 2019, 01:59:41 PM
One positive... drivers are being advised that they have to exchange English licensed for Irish before Brexit happens. That will bring more drivers into the penalty point system.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 08, 2019, 01:03:49 PM
Seriously .Should taxi reps be looking for a reduction in licence fees and Suitibility charges if there is a hard Brexit as our takings will be impacted by job losses and less British Tourists visiting .If we were selling Cows or Exporting Stuff we would get some sort of relief from falling incomes .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 08, 2019, 01:07:41 PM
Seriously .Should taxi reps be looking for a reduction in licence fees and Suitibility charges if there is a hard Brexit as our takings will be impacted by job losses and less British Tourists visiting .If we were selling Cows or Exporting Stuff we would get some sort of relief from falling incomes .

FN will probably increase their commission to cover any shortfall due to a hard brexit!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 08, 2019, 01:17:37 PM
Our kids mate has a small courier company .He was saying a lot of the Amazon deliveries generate in the UK and might be impacted by customs .He was saying that he had a guarenteed minimum contract per van that he was paid work or not but those contracts are no longer available and will not be renewed .He was saying customs were warning customs clearance certs would be needed if they were delivering over the border in the event of a crash out and that vans could be seized if they dont have all the paper work in place .Think people are starting to see what a fuck up this could be .If you had a contract delivering to Doneygall and you had to go through Sligo instead of cutting across the border the extra cost could break you .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 08, 2019, 01:45:50 PM
I hope they start seizing the nordy fuks cars doin 200kph on the M1 as soon as they cross the border into the south.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 08, 2019, 03:19:54 PM
Do ya reckon there is many nordies doin it ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 08, 2019, 03:34:19 PM
Do ya reckon there is many nordies doin it ?

I drive the M1....and yes...they absolutely put the hammer down,sure there's no consequences even if they're caught.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 08, 2019, 05:04:56 PM
But how are they workinh in the south ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Bob Shillin on July 08, 2019, 05:11:00 PM
A few of them caught tailgating at the tunnel recently to get through toll free, all breathalysed, but ok, one was done for cannabis in his system
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 08, 2019, 05:26:02 PM
Are you saying there are taxi drivers coming from the north working in the south ????
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Bob Shillin on July 08, 2019, 05:34:43 PM
Are you saying there are taxi drivers coming from the north working in the south ????

"nordy fuks cars doin 200kph on the M1"

Not taxi drivers just mad petrol heads.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 10:20:44 AM
NO BORDER ME BOLLOX ....A major emergency plan for dealing with traffic chaos in Ireland and the UK in the event of a no-deal Brexit will be assessed by Cabinet today.

The Government has plans to establish an unprecedented operation centre led by the Revenue Commissioners to monitor the movement of trucks between the two countries from October 31 onwards.

The Irish Independent understands the emergency plan, which will involve gardaí, Transport for Ireland, and officials from a number of government departments, is contained in documents to be shared with ministers today by Tánaiste Simon Coveney.

It involves the 24-hour monitoring of traffic at the ports in Ireland amid fears that ferry timetables could be disrupted by issues in the UK.

A source said the centre would work as an "early detection centre" to foresee problems.

Mr Coveney will also brief colleagues about growing concerns that businesses have "eased off" in their preparations since Brexit was postponed.

He has compiled three separate memos setting out Ireland's readiness for a crash-out Brexit at Halloween.

The first is an update on the existing Contingency Action Plan, which will run to around 100 pages and cover 20 different areas.

It contains extremely stark warnings about the affect of a no-deal Brexit on the all-island economy.

On the back of this report the Government will issue a "fresh call to action" for business with just 114 days until the new Brexit date. In particular they will urge businesses who export goods to prepare for changes to the customs regime.

The second memo deals with ports and airports. Temporary preparations were in place for customs checks had Brexit occurred last March as originally planned - but these have now been upgraded to semi-permanent status over recent months.

Ministers will today give the green light for them to be further enhanced with a view to retaining them in the long term. There will be a particular focus on facilitates at Dublin Port and Rosslare Europort.

Finally, the Government will discuss the rollout of a major communications campaign over the summer and into autumn.

This has already started with a push to encourage drivers with UK licences to apply for an Irish one.

Mr Coveney told a gathering of foreign ambassadors at Dublin Castle yesterday that there would be a "step change" when it came to communications.

He warned against complacency, saying that postponement of Brexit until October 31 was seen as a opportunity by some industries to "ease off" in their preparations.

Mr Coveney said the Government would be using the summer period to get that the message out "in very blunt terms" that businesses need to tune back into the risks.

This has commenced with the introduction of the driving licence advertising campaign.

It comes as the favourite to become British prime minister Boris Johnson again pledged that he would take the UK out of the European Union on October 31 "come what may".

Mr Johnson said yesterday that he would get the country "match fit for no deal" and insisted that there would be "no second chances".
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 09, 2019, 10:32:04 AM
Have yis been down the docks recently?They've reorganised many of the yards to make them into holding areas for the trucks.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 10:39:26 AM
I posted up that I had a bet @14/1 a hard border in Ireland this year .Powers definition of border was infrastructure .A friend got the contract to wire portacabing in Monaghan months ago .The lieing Sodomite and his Government said no border no obstruction ,no brexit so business never prepared .My Granny bought extra coal every winter just in case there was a cold snap she would be prepared but this government wouldnt think to order toilet paper before they shit .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 09, 2019, 10:43:04 AM
Revenue and customs are actively recruiting. They're preparing for the worst but don't want to cause a panic and throw us into an early reccession IMO.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 11:01:10 AM
I keep posting and nobody is listening IF and it is an IF Brexit happens the Irish economy will crash and burn both the EU and the UK will blame us .The G20 want tax harmonisation brits will reduce their corporation tax and with new trade deals with Brazil our agribusinesses will be decimated .The Dumb Sodomite overplayed his hand .Should of said to the EU and UKyou work it out and then we will agree or disagree but instead he pranced in, in his hot pants and vest waving his arms around .He is an inept Politicial no conviction hadnt got the courage to propose the same sex marage or Abortion referendums but decided to allow a peoples constitutional review body set government policy .He will go down in Irish history with the other Half Breed De Valera as the man who sold out his country for quick gain .You can smell the fear and desperation on Merrion Street Even the low life Protestant shooters are hiding Fat Mary hasent made any Coment on Brexit for months Adams is off spending one or more of his pensions .Patriotic Politicians or EU lackies you decide .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 09, 2019, 11:07:47 AM
We're due another few years of hardship anyway.Stuff(food and drink) and property is more expensive now than the tiger years.Anyone renting or wanting to buy a gaff is praying for a crash.Doesnt really matter who is flying the plane as it's still heading for the mountain.Focus less on the personalities and you'll see the bigger picture.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 11:25:30 AM
Na merc its about personalities Ireland ,Malta Cypress any of the new x russian countries the EU dont give a fuck .We should of Threatened to default the last time they would never let a member og the EURO default .We will carry that debt for ever unless we default .A Taoiseach with a pair would of bluffed we just rolled over .Deutcha Bank is insolvent but they wont be sacrificed like Irish Banks .I got a gig off Roys in 2012 I predicted Brexit and said we should consider going with them .They tell us the EEC has been good for us then how come our national debt is above our GDP..
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 11:43:20 AM
One hundred and fourteen days - that's 16 weeks and change - before we're hit by what could be the most calamitous wave in the State's history.

In an article yesterday, Simon Coveney was stark in his opinion and, it should be noted, not particularly optimistic in his tone about the rapidly approaching Halloween nightmare that is the Brexit deadline on October 31.

As the Tánaiste says: "The chances of a disorderly Brexit have never been higher and the Government now considers the risk of this outcome on October 31 as 'significant'."

Mr Coveney has been busy preparing a 'Brexit Contingency Plan', which he will present to Cabinet on Thursday, ahead of the full Dáil debates on the issue.

While he says that the plan "refines and improves on all the actions that were already in place", it's difficult to see what new tricks he can conjure.

After all, regardless of the merits or otherwise of the Brexit vote itself - it's still the largest vote in the history of the UK, whether we like it or not - the last few years have been notable more for the peevish irrationality and jaw-dropping cynicism of the Tory leadership.

Normally, when diplomatic negotiations are taking place, the hope is that both sides are at least acting in good faith.

As we have witnessed with increasing dismay in these last few months, even that baseline of integrity has been conspicuous in its absence when it comes to dealing with the Tory leaders. Even worse, as confused and chaotic as things have been for the last couple of years, that will look like a picnic compared the havoc that Boris Johnson openly plans to wreak.

One of the more interesting elements of Coveney's article was his acknowledgement of Brexit fatigue.

Apart from policy wonks and those businesses which will be the first to feel the sharp end of the Brexit blade, the temptation for many people has been to simply tune out whenever "the B word" is mentioned and hope that it will go away and we'll never have to mention it again.

That's an understandable response, but gravely mistaken.

As Mr Coveney says: "One of the biggest dangers Ireland faces in the weeks ahead is the 'boy who cried wolf' effect, whereby people and business assume that because a disorderly Brexit was averted in March and April the same will happen in October. To assume that would be a serious error."

But rather than the boy who cried wolf, the danger is that people will become so deadened to the story that they treat it as this generation's Millennium Bug; the Y2K virus that was apparently going to wipe out our computers at the end of 1999.

The difference is that Y2K never happened, whereas Brexit, one way or the other, is going ahead in October.

While it would be unfair to say there was an element of panic in Mr Coveney's words, he is deadly serious in his attempts to explain the urgency of the situation in which we now find ourselves.

But there is also the seemingly insurmountable problem that both sides are caught between two mutually exclusive aspirations. Essentially, the backstop is the roadblock - we need it, and the Tories have staked their claim on not having it.

It's also exposes the broader problem that even King Solomon would struggle to solve: we want to maintain an all-island economy, but it would be an all-island economy with a foot uniquely in both the UK and the EU camps. That's not a prospect which fills ether side with glee.

It makes a certain horrible sense that the UK's departure will take the form of the much-feared "disorderly Brexit", because everything about this process has been extremely disorderly.

But we shouldn't just take Mr Coveney's word on it.

The former head of the UK's Brexit department, Philip Rycroft, echoed the Tánaiste when he warned: "Everybody should be worried about a no-deal Brexit, we're taking a step into the unknown... it's unprecedented and a very major change to our trading relationship."

The Government, like the country, is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

In this case we're the unwilling tennis ball batted back and forth across the net by the two big powers.

Like any tennis ball, we have to be careful about the spin - it has become increasingly difficult to even know who is telling the truth, or if they're simply making things up because facts are now seen as an expensive luxury item, to be used as sparingly as possible.

Matters may be out of Mr Coveney's hands, but he has proved to be a diligent negotiator and hard worker behind the scenes.

He may have lacked the X-factor in his failed leadership contest against Leo Varadkar, but an increasing number of Fine Gael members and elected representatives are privately worried that they may have backed the wrong horse.

The character traits that made Mr Varadkar so popular with the party are rapidly turning into liabilities, and he has endured a rotten few months as Taoiseach. What was once the enthusiasm of youth and a refreshingly blunt approach now comes across as being glib and aloof.

In fairness, every politician is allowed to say something daft from time to time (his 'Love Actually' comments when he first walked into 10 Downing Street spring to mind), but he has been guilty of a series of baffling, avoidable blunders of late and his judgment is being called into serious question.

The party he leads seems to have more internal bullying scandals than Sinn Féin, which must stand to be a record. The country he leads is worn down by the housing and health scandals which give a lie to the idea that we have a booming economy. And his handling of the Maria Bailey situation has been incompetent.

From the first whistle of that particular controversy, he seemed to play it wrong. Rather than killing the story as quickly as he could it dragged on and the decision to withhold the internal report has given the Opposition even more ammunition.

After all, one of the golden rules of politics is that the cover-up will kill you quicker than the crime.

And then there were his remarks about Micheál Martin, which stunned even Fine Gaelers. His jibe about the Fianna Fáil leader behaving like a hypocritical priest seemed unnecessary and uncalled for.

People can debate the rights and wrongs of it, but he still - with minimal provocation - decided to go personal on the very man who is propping up his increasingly unstable Government.

Never give a sucker an even break is another rule of politics, yet it's a rule that Mr Varadkar seems to blithely ignore.

Meanwhile, we're left with Simon Coveney, the Quiet Man, doing the grown-up work, while Loose Lips Leo is in danger of being seen as the Taoiseach who only opens his mouth to change his feet.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 09, 2019, 11:52:03 AM
Most folks are doing alright.Once the people are happy the government is happy.We are not like the greeks at all.Too many fuckers with limited skills here doing good driving around in fancy cars.The whole country is on the fiddle in one way or another.Best not to think about National debt too much...we don't wanna pay tax but are uncomfortable with our countries debt.Cant have it both ways.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 09, 2019, 02:04:02 PM
John your an awful man for scaremongering
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 02:39:43 PM
John your an awful man for scaremongering

Corbyn is going to save us from the Crazies Boris will be the big loser when he wins .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 09, 2019, 03:11:23 PM
I keep tellin ya and ya dont believe me NIGEL FARAGE FOR PM .assuming there is a general election
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 03:35:30 PM
I keep tellin ya and ya dont believe me NIGEL FARAGE FOR PM .assuming there is a general election

They wont win a dozen seats .If there is an Election Tories under Boris will be Brexiteers vote for us and we are out no deal .Labour will go remain Farage is only a protest vote .Brexit party never won a westminster seat .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 03:36:10 PM
John your an awful man for scaremongering

AM I ......https://merrionstreet.ie/MerrionStreet/en/News-Room/News/Brexit_Contingency_Plan_July_2019.pdf
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 03:44:25 PM
Can you believe this bolloxology from the governments own report (impacts would be very damaging and in the first year following a no deal Brexit it is
predicted that the growth rate would be almost 3 per cent lower than currently projected.) They are predicting Growth of 3.5% for next year so take away 3% are they saying as a result of Brexit the economy will grow by .5% .My mayhs is we see a 7% contraction in Groath and nrgative future groath so the overall impact is -10% that equals bankruptcy .10% contraction in GDP will automatically increase our debt to GDPratio above the fiscal treaty limits and we will struggle to pay our debts and be forced into another bailout this time your savings will be taken or we might default either way HARD TIMES are ahead .TIME TO GET A GUN .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 05:13:53 PM
John your an awful man for scaremongering

It adds the impact of UK import and export exposure for firms could be compounded by currency volatility between the euro and sterling.

It repeats that there would be an expected increase in unemployment of 50-55,000 after the UK leaves.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 09, 2019, 07:49:28 PM
I wonder who's responsible for the leaks that provoked Trump to make an idiot of himself... not that that in itself requires any provocation, just direction I guess.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 09, 2019, 10:21:01 PM
Donald is great,leave him alone rat
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 10:23:32 PM
I wonder who's responsible for the leaks that provoked Trump to make an idiot of himself... not that that in itself requires any provocation, just direction I guess.

One of Borosis mates ,Make the other cunt defend the ambassador as he is foreign secretary and when BoBo gets the gig he replaces the Ambassador sticks his finger up Trumps Hole and Gobbles fuck out of him to make him happy .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 10:25:14 PM
Donald is great,leave him alone rat

Boris wont be Prime Minister for more than a few months and the Sodomite Prince will never be elected Taoiseach .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 09, 2019, 11:04:43 PM
Did ya watch the debate?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 09, 2019, 11:20:50 PM
Did ya watch the debate?

no
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 10, 2019, 08:33:52 AM
John your an awful man for scaremongering

Did Ya read any of todays Headlines Dollyer?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 10, 2019, 10:49:23 AM
WW3 is on and has been for yrs John...........look at the jobless, and moreover, educated retards calling themselves "Extinction Rebellion". When there's nothing left to do and no-one left to blame....they'll take whatever you have...or think you have.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 10, 2019, 11:31:03 AM
Lip I think it was you who said they will come for your savings .Brexit is about beating the Brits Down I watched a behind the scenes show and that Buck Tooted Belgiumis a proper s[]ing toerag Barniea at least respects the Brexit Vote .My best Guess is a no confidence vote that Boris loses then under the fixed term parliament act somebody else will be given a chance.Probably somebody like Hillary Benn will be proposed Corbyn is unelectable .Then a general election with the torys supporting leave and everybody else supporting remain the Brexit party probably wont run candidates in strong remain seats so they dont split the vote .Then Civil War and I do mean War with Riots and killings in Mainland Britain especially England ,Race riots Irish ethnic cleansing .Britain is Broken and it is historical Because of the Reformation they never had a Renaisance Britin is still living in the dark ages with a two tier system of haves and have nots .A united Ireland Will never happen in our lifetimes we cannot afford to intergrate those wasters .The UK might break up and there will be an Independent state of Northren Ireland with closer links to Dublin .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 10, 2019, 12:41:41 PM
I keep posting and nobody is listening IF and it is an IF Brexit happens the Irish economy will crash and burn both the EU and the UK will blame us .The G20 want tax harmonisation brits will reduce their corporation tax and with new trade deals with Brazil our agribusinesses will be decimated .The Dumb Sodomite overplayed his hand .Should of said to the EU and UKyou work it out and then we will agree or disagree but instead he pranced in, in his hot pants and vest waving his arms around ......
Any news on the 'Sliced Pan' yet ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 10, 2019, 01:00:57 PM
I keep posting and nobody is listening IF and it is an IF Brexit happens the Irish economy will crash and burn both the EU and the UK will blame us .The G20 want tax harmonisation brits will reduce their corporation tax and with new trade deals with Brazil our agribusinesses will be decimated .The Dumb Sodomite overplayed his hand .Should of said to the EU and UKyou work it out and then we will agree or disagree but instead he pranced in, in his hot pants and vest waving his arms around ......
Any news on the 'Sliced Pan' yet ?

Farmers as we talk are blocking the streets of Dublin .Ken Im all right I have fuck all but lads with savings or a pension need to worry about the price of bread .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 10, 2019, 01:07:05 PM
So, are we going to have to pay .10 cent more fer the Sliced Pan ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 10, 2019, 01:12:27 PM
So, are we going to have to pay .10 cent more fer the Sliced Pan ?

yes
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 10, 2019, 01:28:11 PM
Your being far to dramatic John.I believe there will be concessions on the backstop as a result of renegotiation of the withdrawal agreement.I also think Ireland will be hung out to dry by the EU
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 10, 2019, 01:36:57 PM
Think you have the BBC version of Brexit .The EU dont want the Brits there will be no renegoation on the backstop .The EU have allowed the Brits back themselves into a corner .Now its two choices Crash out at Halloween or a General Election as I told you months ago .The election lines have been drawn If you want out you vote Tory if you want remain you vote Labour Liberals and Brexitparty will be sidelined as I told you already The Brexit party will do well towin 1 or 2 seats .The problem Britain has is leave or remain there is going to be serious violence that will make Brixton Toxteth and Tottenham look like small streeet parties .Enock fortold Streets of Blood its day is coming .Irony would be an attack on Parliamentary rule on the streets on the 5th of November Guy Faulks night history repeating itself .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 10, 2019, 01:46:04 PM
Totally disagree with you about the brexit party being sidelined,in fact they could conceivably become the next government.I dont think Nigel would agree with you either
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 10, 2019, 01:48:32 PM
They wont win ten seats in fact if they run candidates Labour win by a landslide .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 10, 2019, 02:02:40 PM
Well we'll have to agree to disagree then
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 10, 2019, 04:54:22 PM
FFS, when did 5c become 10c?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 10, 2019, 04:56:41 PM
FFS, when did 5c become 10c?

You can s[] now but when your buttering your bread on the other side it wont be funny .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 10, 2019, 04:58:07 PM
Will I be buttering my bread on the other side for the last time in October or will we still be able to nip across the border to save a few notes here and there?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 10, 2019, 05:03:46 PM
Will I be buttering my bread on the other side for the last time in October or will we still be able to nip across the border to save a few notes here and there?
Exchange rate might make it very lucrative to go into Britain to Shop .If the Sodomite Prince brings in minimum alcohol pricing it could be very very lucrative .Importing part worn motors could be cheaper depending on if they impose import duty of x United Kingdom Cars to try to protect the industry .Im sure a semi literate accountant might find some sort of loophole similar to the ones exploited in the past .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 10, 2019, 10:22:53 PM
John im puzzled as to why you dont think the brexit party are serious contenders for government.liok at the conservatives they cannot  agree on what day it is.labour ate in total disarray over this antisemitism, surely with the momentum the brexit party have behind them you would have tp give them a chance ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 10, 2019, 10:39:06 PM
They average 23% support Nobody in the history of British politics ever won a seat with 23% .Look at UKips results never won a seat .If I got about 20/1 Brexit Party not to win a single seat I would have a bet .think they will get 3 or 4 at best
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 11, 2019, 10:01:11 AM
Might be 23% ,but that more then the conservative,or labour party are polling at the moment
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 11, 2019, 10:16:23 AM
Might be 23% ,but that more then the conservative,or labour party are polling at the moment

Conservatives under Boris will regain ALL of the Brexit vote The Brexit party will poll about 12% as I said they probably wont win a seat .I still dont understand your glee at the prospect of Brexit A hard Brexit will rip the guts out of this country send us back to the 70s .It scares the bejesus out of me and I dont have a Mortgage or big debts .The Impact of a hard brexit on Ireland will be worse than a nuclear attack .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 11, 2019, 10:25:39 AM
I told you before John.I just cannot relate to this so called new  progressive inclusive modren diverse Ireland.my national identity has been diluted to include all foreigners from every arse hole cesspit on the planet. We now have []s,etc etc telling us what we canare do in our own country.some of these people who are driving taxis for instance,cannot even speak fukking English yet we are asked to believe they sat and passed a detailed knowledge test.the reason our spinless gutless politicians wont challenge this is they want to keep appeasing their paymasters in europe,and because of their obvious fear of the immigrant council of Ireland,and other such do gooder organisations
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 11, 2019, 10:32:16 AM
You say you cannot understand why I welcome brexit,well I cannot be any clearer then my last post I want to see the total and absolute destruction of that dictatorship who took not my national identity from me,but the sovereignty of our country.look at the reason the brexit party offered as their reason for not standing for the EU national anthem.THE POWERS THAT BE REFERED TO THE EU AS A NATION.it is not a single nation,but that is the aim of the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels to make it one nation
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 11, 2019, 10:53:01 AM
Your Sovreignty .Ireland were mooching from Britain after independence then we gobbled the Common Market for more free money Ireland is Economically non sustainable we only make small talk and sandwiches every other product we produce is the property of other nations we have never had Sovreignty .Just look at Paggo and the Sodomite Prince they had to choose between siding with the Brits or Siding with the EU the decision they made was based on who can give us the most .Listen to our Sovreign Ministers telling us that the EU will bailout Irish industries that suffer from Brexit yet at the same time they sell out the beef trade .We are NOT a Sovreign Nation we are a disfunctional stone in an ocean our economy is based on begging and fraud and thats coming to an end .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 11, 2019, 12:49:21 PM
I think it's because he wants more Muslims coming over here.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 11, 2019, 02:30:07 PM
I think your right rat,I do
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on July 11, 2019, 04:00:17 PM
Is clogging up the Internet an offence yet?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 11, 2019, 05:26:01 PM
Only for John,and rat
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on July 11, 2019, 08:05:28 PM
Only for John,and rat
8)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 12, 2019, 07:26:27 AM
Here is my prediction Boris will be  the 3rd shortest serving Prime Minister .He wont be Prime Minister on Christmas Day .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 16, 2019, 11:52:07 AM
Irish government going to vote for a new EU leader that wants to kick fuck out of our tax rules .Talk about turkeys and christmas comes to mind .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 16, 2019, 01:47:04 PM
This cunt is also saying she will extend the brexit date.what makes her think Boris ,or Nigel WANT a fukkin extension  ????
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 16, 2019, 02:00:32 PM
This cunt is also saying she will extend the brexit date.what makes her think Boris ,or Nigel WANT a fukkin extension  ????

I think we'll be the ones getting an extension....up the hoop!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 16, 2019, 02:30:51 PM
This cunt is also saying she will extend the brexit date.what makes her think Boris ,or Nigel WANT a fukkin extension  ????

who is this Nigel fella you keep going on about .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 16, 2019, 03:23:34 PM
Sorry MR FARAGE
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 17, 2019, 11:21:42 AM
Great to see president Trump telling the 4 liberal leafties to fukk off back to where they came from
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 18, 2019, 01:48:49 PM
Well John,your pal Leo is starting to wilt .he has declared there is room for compromise after all on the backstop.its likeI said there is no need to worry there will be a deal
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 18, 2019, 02:02:41 PM
Well John,your pal Leo is starting to wilt .he has declared there is room for compromise after all on the backstop.its likeI said there is no need to worry there will be a deal

There is NO ROOM for any compromise on the Backstop Leo realises he got rode .The EU have informed him if there is a hard Brexit you need to man the Border and the IRA will shoot you fucking dead for being a traitor you manky piece of shit .The useless fuck is shitting himself he chose wrong tried to be friends with the big gang against the Brits and got handed his arse to him on a plate .Remember his boast about a Bulletproof Backstop Guarentee ,he thought the Brits would crumble if they dont he willbe joining Collins in a grave .Republicans will need a big scalp to motivate their base a dead Taoiseach might just be the thing .Its getting serious for the Irish Government they are going to have their no border bluff called .Why would Boris give Leo any help .Leo is no politician he is a social reformer ,no politician would of issued a statement like Leo while negoiations wrre still going on .Only Road left for Leo is tretchery to sell out his country .Dont be surprised if Leo tries to go for a Border on the mainland of Europe with free movement of goods and people between Ireland and the UK .This means all Irish exports will be checke at port of entry in Europe in other words Leo bending over to suit the UK and EU at Irelands expence .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 18, 2019, 02:27:21 PM
 ::fightid say a border in the Irish sea is a likely option
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 18, 2019, 02:35:14 PM
::fightid say a border in the Irish sea is a likely option

That means treating the North as second Class British Citizens DUP wont have that and will bring Down the Government .Brits and EU will push for Leo to roll over and treat Ireland and UK seperately from the rest of the EU with border checks on the EU mainland .In other words suspending Irelands entry to the single market .If Boris goes Hard Leo is Fucked .What are the chances Boris Calls a general Election before October and really puts the cat amongst the pigeons .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 23, 2019, 12:22:13 PM
HORRAY DOLLYMOUNT Boris got the Gig . ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck ::fuck
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 23, 2019, 01:15:26 PM
Paddy, Pavel, Elseptha, Concepta et al are about to find out how irrelevant they are to the 4th Reich(7th Roman Empire). One thing about John M I do like, is his inimitable ability to see the woods for the trees.......the Brits have proven Napoleon right............
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 23, 2019, 01:48:04 PM
Lip its just history repeating itself French under Napoleon had a dream of European Domination Macron will make his play now that the Brits are beating themselves and before the Germans rearm and reignite their European Domination Dream .I never understand why We the Irish still hold a desire for a United Ireland and that is accepted as NationalDestiny and at the same time we cannot see that France and Germany have a National Destiny carved by history to be the Emperors of Europe .Britain is Fucked a Nation of unemployable wasters .Hard to believe Wales was the first Industrialised nation in History (definition of Industrial was more people working in industry than agriculture )Look at the kip now more people in Wales working in catering than any other business .Then look at Scotland or just look at Train Spotting the movie Scotland has the highest drugs rate in Europe .England has the highest rate of youth murder in Europe .Why would the EU want the Brits as part of the Union If they were your neighbours you would be delighted if they decided to move house .The Empire is dead it died on the beaches of Dunkirk when they had to be rescued by the help .Nobody will help them this time .Macron sees a chink of light for French advancement get the Brits out then its a head to head between Germany and France for the Emperors Crown .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 23, 2019, 01:53:28 PM
John, I'm just in awe of how much time Hal on his hands......he's been in and out of this kip more times than a Mayo-Man ridin' the niece.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 23, 2019, 01:56:25 PM
Thanks...did know ye cared.....ah yeah,that's right...ye don't!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 23, 2019, 01:58:50 PM
I do Hal...........first in to fist at every party.... lol
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 23, 2019, 02:19:20 PM
I'll have you know I've been very busy this morning,sticking washes on,taking my medication,fixed the door mirror on my Citroen(which was missing a spring mechanism)...caught a few rays while listening to Spotify.....and taking the time to join in here with your goodself.....just waiting for the beeper to go...have a quarter pounder in the oven...gonna garnish it with some pickled vegetable slaw and some other shite!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 23, 2019, 02:47:24 PM
Nice time management Hal just think you could be sitting on Heuston waiting an hour for a job to the Guinness Factory or Sitting on Guinness waiting to go to Kilmainhan or Temple Bar .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 23, 2019, 02:56:41 PM
My time management wouldn't include sitting on ranks John...ever.....I'm feeling the best that I've felt for the last couple of weeks,maybe the drugs do work and giving me some energy,maybe why I'm up since 8am.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 23, 2019, 02:57:55 PM
It's busy out here.Always gets busy in the warm weather.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 23, 2019, 03:00:07 PM
It's busy out here.Always gets busy in the warm weather.

Which I'm enjoying before I head out...fukin love the sun me!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 24, 2019, 06:00:04 AM
Here is my prediction Boris will be  the 3rd shortest serving Prime Minister .He wont be Prime Minister on Christmas Day .

I have a Ton here that sez he will be, I'll even grant ya a birra leeway and say till the Xmas party or 31st January whichever comes first.
Are we On John M ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 24, 2019, 08:36:38 AM
Here is my prediction Boris will be  the 3rd shortest serving Prime Minister .He wont be Prime Minister on Christmas Day .

I have a Ton here that sez he will be, I'll even grant ya a birra leeway and say till the Xmas party or 31st January whichever comes first.
Are we On John M ?

Ill take that bet Ken .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 24, 2019, 10:12:35 AM
What you think Dollymount two of the four top jobs going to Immigrants kids Patel and Javid Will Boris go for it ,will the Little Englanders accept it .Boris the English Nationalist how many Jocks ,Welsh or Norn Ireland ministers will there be in his government .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 24, 2019, 10:20:03 AM
Patel is probably the hardest brexiteer of  all
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 24, 2019, 10:22:43 AM
Will he bring the Scottish Lesbian with the Welsh Name Ruth Davidson into his government Will Reece Mogg be junior minister at the department of Hate and Misery .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 24, 2019, 10:38:29 AM
Here is another Question for you Dollymount .Alexander Boris Johnston is the first Baptised Roman Catholic to be British PM Tony Blair converted to Catholicism now can the DUP work with a Catholic Prime Minister ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 24, 2019, 11:05:37 AM
I must admit I had no idea Boris was catholic,in fact I always thought a Catholic could not hold the office of PM.I thought thats why Blair had to wait till he finished his premiership,before converting ,?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 24, 2019, 11:15:55 AM
I must admit I had no idea Boris was catholic,in fact I always thought a Catholic could not hold the office of PM.I thought thats why Blair had to wait till he finished his premiership,before converting ,?

He was Baptised a Catholic dont know if he is practicing but it has to matter with the DUP if he does anything they dont like then they will play the Papist card .Dont think he will make it to Christmas only has a two vote majority .Prime Ministers new address is 10 Shankhill Road Belfast .Shinners must be licking their lips waiting on Boris to sell out the DUP or the DUP to sell out themselves .Is Fat Mary still the leader of the Shinners havent heard from her since she was handed her sad fat arse on a plate with her great failure in the local and Euro elections .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 24, 2019, 11:18:13 AM
I must admit I had no idea Boris was catholic,in fact I always thought a Catholic could not hold the office of PM.I thought thats why Blair had to wait till he finished his premiership,before converting ,?

Don't think so.......no Catholic can enter into marriage with a Royal, but H.R.H.'s church is Catholic anyway....minus Il Papa.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 24, 2019, 11:23:27 AM
Blair converted, as did Anne Widdicome, because they know there's a one-world Govt system coming into play and the fraud of a Catholic, the Jesuit, will be head of its church...don't forget the Jesuits are really Jews.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 24, 2019, 12:11:32 PM
Jerremys token Black .Ever notice every time Corbyn appears in Parliament he always has a Black Female sitting on his left .Cynical fucker playing racist politics .You would also have to question why any Black woman would play his racist sexist game .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 24, 2019, 12:36:28 PM
Jerremys token Black .Ever notice every time Corbyn appears in Parliament he always has a Black Female sitting on his left .Cynical fucker playing racist politics .You would also have to question why any Black woman would play his racist sexist game .

And you thought Leo was there for his brains, not his sexual allure?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 24, 2019, 03:36:00 PM
Here is my prediction Boris will be  the 3rd shortest serving Prime Minister .He wont be Prime Minister on Christmas Day .

I have a Ton here that sez he will be, I'll even grant ya a birra leeway and say till the Xmas party or 31st January whichever comes first.
Are we On John M ?

I took the 5/2 available with paddy a lot of obstacles for him to jump to stay in the saddle .I rcon he might sell out the DUP agree to a NI backstop only and deliver Brexit then go for a general election .That delivers brexit and the DUB still remain as second rate Brits exactly as they are now .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 24, 2019, 04:02:27 PM
Boris sounds very impressive .If I was a sodomite Prince I would be scared .Britain are leaving deal or no deal .Will the Sod sell us out ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 24, 2019, 04:52:43 PM
Two things BoBo just said means we are fucked he wants to open Free Ports and reduce the tax rate .If your making tablets free ports will mean tax free imports and exports .If they go for a intelectual property box like Paggo did then Ireland Inc goes bankrupt .That ton bet I have with Ken might be the worst ton he ever won .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 25, 2019, 10:15:31 AM
Coveney would've handled this situation with greater skill and aplomb. The E.U. has Leo run ragged.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 25, 2019, 12:28:20 PM
I took the 5/2 available with paddy a lot of obstacles for him to jump to stay in the saddle .I rcon he might sell out the DUP agree to a NI backstop only and deliver Brexit then go for a general election .That delivers brexit and the DUB still remain as second rate Brits exactly as they are now .
3/1 now with LawBreakers, but that is just to the end of 2019. I reckon he will hold out fer a good while yet.
We all said the same thing about Donny T not so long ago !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 25, 2019, 12:49:58 PM
Here is my prediction Boris will be  the 3rd shortest serving Prime Minister .He wont be Prime Minister on Christmas Day .
I have a Ton here that sez he will be, I'll even grant ya a birra leeway and say till the Xmas party or 31st January whichever comes first.
Are we On John M ?
Ill take that bet Ken .
OK, we are On, to clarify the bet is a Ton either side on Boris Johnson still to be UK Prime Minister on the date of the next Licenced Irish Taxi Drivers Inter-city Annual Christmas party in 2020 or by the 31st January 2020, whichever comes First. And I'm taking Boris to still be PM and you John M are taking him to be gone by that date.

Also we have the Diesel thing still on the go;
Just listening to the head of BP he says profits are down due to costs .Arabs need higher oil prices Scum of the Earth Yanks who have their own oil are imposing sanctions ,Venesuela has nearly stopped pumping and civil unrest in Libia .He recons as much as 30% increase in oil prices on the way .So how much for a drop of Diesel on X mas Day .

 My guess 1.78 .

Today's quote on the AA website is 1.37.
Your guess is in at 1.78.
Split the difference (20.5) and the count is at 157.5.
I would take a Ton on 157. and under but I'll gift ya 5 points, and I'll have a Ton on 152. and under on Christmas Day 2019 ?

Bet is under /over 152 .Ill have a ton over AA website will be the arbitor .Best of luck Ken .
Fine, we are On, I'm at 152. and under and you are at 152.1 and over, we settle up at next Christmas party, Best of Luck John M.
We settle up at the Xmas party next year, Best of Luck John M.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 25, 2019, 01:28:47 PM
Here is what Im thinking Ken .A general election and more of the same hung parliement A notional unity government with neither Boris or Corbyn .Boris has stacked the deck for a brexit general election dont think he can win be interesting to see if the shinners declare that they will take their seats if it means they can avoid a crash out .That would prevent Boris from doing a deal with the DUP as the Provoes could negate that deal .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on July 25, 2019, 01:35:36 PM
BOJO:


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Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 25, 2019, 03:16:17 PM
Here is what Im thinking Ken .A general election and more of the same hung parliement A notional unity government with neither Boris or Corbyn .Boris has stacked the deck for a brexit general election dont think he can win be interesting to see if the shinners declare that they will take their seats if it means they can avoid a crash out .That would prevent Boris from doing a deal with the DUP as the Provoes could negate that deal .
Right......, OK......, Got it !
Any News on the Sliced Pan ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 25, 2019, 03:18:18 PM
Here is what Im thinking Ken .A general election and more of the same hung parliement A notional unity government with neither Boris or Corbyn .Boris has stacked the deck for a brexit general election dont think he can win be interesting to see if the shinners declare that they will take their seats if it means they can avoid a crash out .That would prevent Boris from doing a deal with the DUP as the Provoes could negate that deal .
Right......, OK......, Got it !
Any News on the Sliced Pan ?

Probably rationing two or three slices a week .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 25, 2019, 03:21:30 PM
Dont know if anybody has noticed Veradker is our Trump he has actually done fuck allstands for fuck all .The Abortion and same fuck referendums were decided by the Constitutional review group not Veradkar ,be interesting to see two spunk bubbles like Veradker and Borris going head to head both of them are fighting for their Political Lives whoever blinks first loses .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 25, 2019, 03:22:47 PM
Should we be stocking up ?
At an extra .10 cent per pan every Ten loaves stocked up would save a Euro !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on July 25, 2019, 03:34:38 PM
Should we be stocking up ?
At an extra .10 cent per pan every Ten loaves stocked up would save a Euro !
Ken, if this is true I will have to buy a Freezer to stock up on the pan's,
Be worth it I suppose, over a period of time (a long time) it would pay for itself with the saving's made on pan's alone
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 25, 2019, 04:56:52 PM
The people that will blink first will be the EU.I dont care how many times they have said there will be no renegotiation,you wait and see they will blink first
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 25, 2019, 05:03:03 PM
The people that will blink first will be the EU.I dont care how many times they have said there will be no renegotiation,you wait and see they will blink first

If the EU blink its over Italy and Greece will act the bollox .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 25, 2019, 05:12:04 PM
I feel sure Boris will call their bluff and win
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 25, 2019, 07:04:27 PM
The Liberal Democrats have tabled a no-confidence motion in Boris Johnson's government - hours after he took power as Prime Minister.

READ MORE: Alison Rowat: Oh, Tory voters, what have you done to the UK?

The text of the Lib Dem motion says: "That this House has no confidence in the Prime Minster; rejects the option of the UK crashing out of the EU; and rejects the option of Parliament being prorogued before Friday 8 November 2019."

The timing of the motion means, if the government loses, an election could be forced and held and with a new government in office by October 25.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 25, 2019, 07:13:52 PM
I keep saying it John,dont rule out the brexit party.I just wish they would come up with a few more policies to make themselves more appealing to votors
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 26, 2019, 12:32:11 PM
That's the last thing they want. Keep it simple a la SNP... more policies will only serve to alienate voters.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 26, 2019, 12:56:12 PM
I keep saying it John,dont rule out the brexit party.I just wish they would come up with a few more policies to make themselves more appealing to votors

They cant win a seat in Scotland or Norn Eireann so they are competing in England against the Tories doubt they will win 4 seats .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 26, 2019, 01:01:00 PM
I totally disagree.at the moment their brand is tops.if thats reflected into votes in an upcoming election,then both Boris,and Corbyen better look out
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 26, 2019, 01:05:55 PM
I totally disagree.at the moment their brand is tops.if thats reflected into votes in an upcoming election,then both Boris,and Corbyen better look out

There are only a given amount of voters and a given amount of seats less than half the seats are Brexit seats and a lot of them are held by Labour .In a General election All Brexiteers wil vote Conservative as a vote for the Brexit Party is a waste of a pensil mark .They would be lucky to get 4 if I got decent odds I would bet they get NONE .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 26, 2019, 01:20:12 PM
We'll just have to wait and see.the momentum is currently with the brexit party
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 26, 2019, 02:04:57 PM
Both the retainers and the leavers will spit their respective votes so it may depend on who can work with who to form a coalition.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 26, 2019, 02:47:49 PM
Well Nigel has already said he is open to a pact with Boris,but Boris has not responded
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 26, 2019, 02:49:18 PM
Both the retainers and the leavers will spit their respective votes so it may depend on who can work with who to form a coalition.

Dont thinkso Rodent The Brexit Party wont win 4 seats Liberals fucked up they selected a Scottish Woman as leader that makes her party unelectable to the English .When it comes to a vote it will be between the Tories and Labour The IRA might say they will under certain circumstances enter parliament that negates the UDAs political wing .If there was an election in Britain The IRA the UDA ,Jock Nationalists and Welsh Nationalists would hold the balance of power .Britain is Fucked Riots and Civil unrest will lead to a government of National Unity without Corbyn or Boris as Prime Minister .The bigger worry is will there be a hard border in Ireland and will the shooting start again Best part of all of this will be the banter between Reece Mogg and Berkow they will need subtitles just so the rest of the Dail will know what they are talking about .Rodent I believe your opinion of what will happen in the event of an election is floccinaucinihilipilificationious .Get your OED out for that one or PMthe Bullett  lol lol
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 26, 2019, 04:30:10 PM
John I believe you grossly underestimated the ability of the brexit party.im going to hold you to that statement that the brexit party wont win 4 seats
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 26, 2019, 04:50:00 PM
John I believe you grossly underestimated the ability of the brexit party.im going to hold you to that statement that the brexit party wont win 4 seats

 Tosimplify the BrexitParty are floccinaucinihilipilificationious .Like tits on a bull or foreskin on a Jew
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 26, 2019, 05:01:31 PM
The brexit party wont win 4 seats thats what you said,and ill be hokding you to it come next election
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 26, 2019, 06:26:36 PM
Dollymount I dont understand you and your passion for Brexit .No Irish person voted to have our economy destroyed by a few self serving private schoolboys setting up a Coup to asset strip their own country .You complain about Metaxi taking some of our earnings the Brexiteers will take even more .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 26, 2019, 08:37:54 PM
John first of all I never complained about mytaxi taking our earnings,infact I have said I have no problem with mytaxi.my problem is with radio dispatchers.secondly I have also said many times that I dont care about the economic  fallout of brexit,my concern is for the loss of the sovereignty,and national identity of our people which means much more to me
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 26, 2019, 08:40:27 PM
As long as we are members of the EU,we will never again have a national identity.we will  be labled as simply europeans,and that sickens me
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 27, 2019, 11:16:18 AM
He does be winding you up, erm. He claims to be racist yet has no problem with my Free Now recruiting immigrants to cover his work. He claims to be opposed to double jobbers / part-timers yet has no problem with Free Now charging them less freight at the expense of full time professionals that need the job to feed their families anall. He claims to be opposed to dispatch firms telling drivers what to do yet has no problem with Free Now suspending and sacking drivers for breaking it's (not NTAs) rules. He claims to be opposed to rideshare but has no problem with Free Now promoting rideshare... need I go on?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 27, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
I wonder if he likes or dislikes tall people ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 27, 2019, 12:23:54 PM
@ Dollymount watch your Hero Boris getting his testicles served up to him with curry sauce .China is going to smash the heads of the Protesters in Hong Kong ,the Brits have guarenteed the freedom of the HK natives for a certain time after they handed it back to China .My money is on a strongly worded letter dictated by Reece Mogg being about the strength of the response .Let that be a message to the Nordie Prods that the UK wont give a fuck about them when push comes to shove .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 27, 2019, 12:40:39 PM
I doubt Boris is his hero. I think Boris is the only British politician who publicly pointed out that Trump is an imbecile. I doubt that sits well with DM... but then Boris did once suggest that Liverpudlians eat their young, undoing decades of work on the part of his party's local representatives in the area so his mouth does have a tendency to be a few paces ahead of his brain... or does it?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 27, 2019, 12:45:38 PM
I think I upset some British readers when I posted this comment in one of their Conservative newsletters ....Boris gets his Gentlemans furniture handed to him on a plate long before Haloween .China are going to start to smash heads in Hong Kong the Brits are the guarentores of freedom for a certain time after the handover to China .How will Boris defend that principle ?A strongly worder letter spellchecked by Reece Mogg?What you are watching is Dunkirk 2 wher Britain was defeated but convinced people it was a great Victory.No Americans or Commonwealth to rely on this time .Britain is only a stone in a big puddle .Stop taking yourselves so seriously nobody else does .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 27, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Dollymount I know your into your music so I was sitting on the potty trying to work out if anybody from Norn Eireann ever sang for Britain in the Eurovision .Do you think the DUP should insist on  a Group of flute players and Lambeg Drummers should represent GB in the Eurovision as part of their deal with Boris .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2019, 03:36:25 PM
Plenty of drummers up the north....as long as the Eurovision never falls on July 12th
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 27, 2019, 03:39:29 PM
Just tells you what the Brits think of the Nordies they wouldnt even let them represent them in a Karaoke .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2019, 04:02:56 PM
It takes all kinds of everything John.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Octavia1 on July 29, 2019, 10:18:59 AM
Does anyone else think borris is very similar to Churchill?  Apparently he goes around on his bike waving to everyone like a clown and Churchill used to ride the underground....upper class tits but men of the people . And they all thought Churchill was a bafoon baboon aswell......
 Untill he gave it to Germany up the gicker

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Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 29, 2019, 10:22:50 AM
Yeah, I can see that and that's what he plays on.Someone was saying last week that he used to mess up his hair deliberately before being interviewed.The whole idiot routine has worked well for him so far.Now he has the top job.

Have yis seen the size of his gaff on the telly?Not a fool at all.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 29, 2019, 10:27:19 AM
My only problem with Boris is,he is to left wing.he needs to be tougher epsecilly on brexit.go for it Boris auld son,break that EUonce and for all and give the place back it's sovereignty,and it's national Identity
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 29, 2019, 10:42:30 AM
Passenger 'dressed as clown' sparks brawl on British cruise ship https://jrnl.ie/4742731


True Patriots!! rofl
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 29, 2019, 10:45:01 AM
AT LAST SOMEBODY IN THE IRISH MEDIA WHO SEES IT MY WAY    Last Thursday, Leo Varadkar rhetorically dug up Famine graves in a last desperate attempt to distract from the following frightening truth.

Unless we bin our fraudulent backstop, Boris Johnson will crash out of the EU, leaving our economy in ruins and our relations with England, our nearest neighbour, in rag order.

Leo Varadkar and Simon Coveney say that Boris Johnson and the Brits are to blame. That is not true. We are to blame and I can prove that proposition.

Last December, Dan O'Brien told the Irish people that the backstop would lead to exactly what we pretended it was meant to avoid - a hard border.

He spelled out the two problems. First, the backstop meant that Britain could only leave the EU provided it stayed in the customs union until we and the EU were happy there was no hard border.

Now walk in England's shoes. Suppose the EU told Ireland we could only leave if we stayed in the customs union until the British were satisfied that border unionists were happy with the new situation?

Second, Dan said it changed the constitutional position of Northern unionists. We pretended that only the "dinosaur" DUP had a problem when all unionists had a problem.

Although I agreed with Dan's points, I had other problems with the backstop.

I believe the backstop was part of the baggage of Irish nationalism; would feed a fresh series of Sinn Fein demands; was a fraudulent issue because it would lead to the hard border it pretended to prevent; was a bullying device to force the UK to stay in the EU, or dump the unionists, or hold a second referendum; was a straitjacket devised by the Department of Foreign Affairs and approved by the EU, which wanted to punish the Brits for leaving and was delighted to find foolish Irish puppets willing to do its dirty work

No self-respecting country would take that kind of coercion. Theresa May only took it because she was weak. And we let the backstop break her.

A few months ago, I predicted the British would find someone tough enough to exit Europe if Dublin did not tweak the backstop.

The British found Boris Johnson. But Varadkar and Coveney and their mad green media cheerleaders misjudged him, did not offer him a tweak in time - and now it is far too late.

How could the Irish Government and the Guardianistas of the Irish media be so blind to the determination of Boris Johnson to deliver Brexit?

Last week Lisa Chambers jibed he had been reading too many Churchill biographies, recycling the view of Ronan McGreevy in The Irish Times who found Churchillian comparisons risible.

Yet for much of his life, Churchill too was dismissed as a drunkard, messer and all-round chancer.

As a long-time student of men and history, I have reached more complex conclusions about Johnson.

I believe Boris Johnson knows well he has been a liar, a lout and a layabout. But, like Churchill, he sees one last chance to redeem a feckless life and he means to grab it with both hands.

Accordingly, I cannot believe the Irish media are still waffling about him blustering and bluffing.

From his campaign speech, the composition of his "war cabinet", and, above all, the appointment of Dominic Cummings, the best spin doctor in Europe, I can categorically predict the following will happen as night follows day.

First, Boris Johnson is determined to deliver the democratic result of the Brexit referendum even if it means no deal.

Second, he has pledged to put up no physical borders, will challenge the EU to do the same and will require the EU (meaning us) to bin the backstop.

Third, if the EU refuses, he will fight and win a general election on a Cummings campaign slogan of standing up to EU bullying on the backstop.

Fourth, he will take a massive chunk out of Labour's working class vote and end with a big majority.

Fifth, even if he does not need the DUP he still will not dump on unionists because the new Boris believes in the constitutional integrity of the United Kingdom.

Accordingly, anyone who still thinks Boris Johnson is bluffing is either a fool or a frightened media cheerleader fearful of being found out.

Last week, I appealed to the Taoiseach to offer to tweak the backstop before Boris Johnson bedded down as prime minister.

But as the Taoiseach was pondering a compromise of the sort floated by Pat Leahy, the Tanaiste went on Andrew Marr's BBC show and raised the backstop bar even higher for Varadkar.

Coveney's dogmatic and intransigent backstop stance, then and since, strikes me as a reckless and selfish long-term green bid for the leadership of Fine Gael.

Getting tetchy with Marr, he used a controlling slap-down hand gesture. Jon Williams, head of RTE News, tweeted about his "punchy" performance.

The Taoiseach panicked and ran up the green flag, RTE closed ranks in support, and Pat Leahy, having put his head out briefly, took it back in again.

Only Miriam O'Callaghan on RTE and Matt Cooper on The Tonight Show continued to probe for a compromise.

On Tonight, when Fergus O'Dowd of FG brazenly tried to blame the DUP for Johnson's hard line, Cooper coolly and correctly told him Dominic Cummings was doing the driving.

This weekend the nationalist consensus to blame the Brits is being backed by 99pc of the Irish media. So why are some still complaining about the five - there are only five - critics of the backstop?

Because they are terrified of being challenged by an angry public. With good reason. From now on the Irish people will begin to ponder two core questions.

How come the backstop has caused the hard border it was supposed to prevent? How can the Government say the Brits are to blame when we could easily have stopped a crash-out by tweaking the backstop?

As we faced Armageddon, Fintan O'Toole tried to console us on a recent Irish Times podcast with the prospect of being "flooded with money" from the EU.

But surely it would have been better to make a backstop deal with our English neighbours instead of busking around Brussels with a begging bowl?

Naturally my views will be attacked by craven contributors on RTE programmes to which I am disgracefully denied access. But I have heard all that tribal sneering before.

When I reached out to David Trimble, I was called a unionist. When I publicised the sufferings of Protestants, I was called a West Brit. And when I warned, week after week, the backstop would end in a bad place, I was called a traitor by posh nationalists on Twitter.

But the whataboutery and Brit-bashing cannot conceal the raw facts now revealed. The backstop has brought us to a bad place and the Irish Government and media lacked the guts to shout stop.

This weekend they will still try to blame the British for their own mistakes. But deep down I believe a silent majority is not happy with how a hopeful national consensus has turned into a sour nationalist consensus.

I have done my duty and told the truth. I am braced for the backlash. Those who tell the truth to their tribe are seldom forgiven.

Sunday Independent

THE SODOMITE PRINCE HAS BACKED HIMSELF AND THIS COUNTRY INTO A CORNER THAT WILL DESTROY US .IF HE BACKS DOWN NOW HE GETS SHOT DEAD BY REPUBLICANS AS A TRAITOR .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 29, 2019, 01:14:14 PM
No, John, you saw it but he said it..........you've been hemming and hawing like a an autistic swallow for many's a month now on Brexit....I'd hate to be on a Jury panel with you........
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 29, 2019, 01:29:44 PM
Old Etonian....Bullingdon Club, Oxford....and he's a fucking eejit? Leo has been promised Elysian fields in the E.U.....he's been shafted by an elite club that Theresa May had to take, quite literally, up the shitepipe.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 29, 2019, 02:04:15 PM
Does anyone else think borris is very similar to Churchill?  Apparently he goes around on his bike waving to everyone like a clown and Churchill used to ride the underground....upper class tits but men of the people . And they all thought Churchill was a bafoon baboon aswell......
 Untill he gave it to Germany up the gicker

(https://i.postimg.cc/p90YQ5MT/churchill-middle-finger.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p90YQ5MT)

Yanks, even though they'd no business in WW1 or 2...."gave it to Hitler up the gicker". They even offered his Chief Engineer, Werner Von Braun, a job with NASA....google it yourself.........lauging me nuts off.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 29, 2019, 02:09:50 PM
The Sodomite Prince got played .He is the most useless Politician in the Dail under his leadership nothing has happened except more homeless more hospital waiting lists big bills for shite like kids hospitals and youtube connections .EU thought they would bully the brits but now the reality of crash out is raising its head .Macron will want to play hardball the Germans will do whatever suits them .The Sodomite could of just said "We have good relations with both the EU and UK so you work it out and bring the solution to us to agree or reject .By his fucking big mouth he has turned both the Brits and the UK against us .If we win we lose neither the UK or EU will want to scratch our back .A total political failure by a total political gobshite .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 29, 2019, 02:20:12 PM
John you talk a lot about the homeless situation,and your right there is a lot of homelessness in Ireland.but I know for a fact that quite a lot of people who claim to be homeless,were actually offered homes by the council and refused them cause it wasn't near me ma,or it wasn't on the correct bus route,etc etc
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 29, 2019, 02:49:55 PM
Dalymount Britain have a Bigger Problem than Brexit .Hong Kong they guarentee the Liberty of Hong Kong for the transition period after they handed it back to China .When the Chinease start shooting Protesters ,what will GB do .FUCK ALL .That will blow their creditability out of the water so do they ignore the Good Friday agreement as well .Britain Brexit, Hong Kong ,Ships in the Gulf no Empire to back it up this time .Britain is under attack from all sides .They need a victory cant attack China or Iran as they would lose any war so VE or Victory in Europe 2 is their only way of saving face .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 29, 2019, 04:22:57 PM
Yeah but what's all that got to do with the homeless situation ???
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Octavia1 on July 29, 2019, 05:30:09 PM
Does anyone else think borris is very similar to Churchill?  Apparently he goes around on his bike waving to everyone like a clown and Churchill used to ride the underground....upper class tits but men of the people . And they all thought Churchill was a bafoon baboon aswell......
 Untill he gave it to Germany up the gicker

(https://i.postimg.cc/p90YQ5MT/churchill-middle-finger.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p90YQ5MT)

Yanks, even though they'd no business in WW1 or 2...."gave it to Hitler up the gicker". They even offered his Chief Engineer, Werner Von Braun, a job with NASA....google it yourself.........lauging me nuts off.
Don't forget the Russian lipp or the Norwegians, Polish, the Dutch, Australia etcetera etcetera etcetera.....
But it was Churchill who told Adolf to go pull his plum or else ......
Borris seems to be a bit like that....
I think I'm going to  like borris
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 29, 2019, 07:09:05 PM
Bo bo to his friends
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 29, 2019, 07:13:23 PM
Churchill was some can of piss .He managed to convince the Brits that Dunkirk was a great victory even though they ran to fuck away .Boris is the same convince the unemployables that Brexit is good for them .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 29, 2019, 07:36:32 PM
I keep saying it,THE EU WILL BLINK FIRST
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on July 29, 2019, 08:14:46 PM
If they do, the EU project is over.  Ever other country is the EU will know that they just have to threaten to leave and they'll get their way.

Remember as well that the EU people don't like BJ.  Most people don't.  Politics is about people as much as policies.

One theory is that BJ is threatening 'no-deal' as a gambit.  Ultimately, he'll try to settle on a 5yr exit with no NI backstop.  The EU will huff and puff but accept it (& fuk Ireland in the meantime).  He'll tell the British people that he tried his best and they only have to put up with those EU feckers for another 5 yrs and then they're out.  It's a halfway house between out out, staying in, and the legal 31 Oct deadline of automatically leaving.

N.B. He's not officially meeting the EU people until 2 weeks before the legal deadline of 31 Oct. Whatever he agrees, he won't get it through Parliament in 2 weeks?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 29, 2019, 08:24:00 PM
They only had 3yrs to sort it in the first place.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Octavia1 on July 29, 2019, 08:28:20 PM
Churchill was some can of piss .He managed to convince the Brits that Dunkirk was a great victory even though they ran to fuck away .Boris is the same convince the unemployables that Brexit is good for them .

It's how ya look at it johnny.... They ran away to fight another day.... Then they won...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 29, 2019, 08:34:33 PM
I dont think so .The Uk are playing 9 deuce they have gone all in but the EU have pocket aces .Britain have NOTHING to offer the EU dont need them but the UK DONT WANT the EU .There is a little known bit of the EU treaty that frightens the shite out of the UK and why they  want out .Its Financial last man standing .How it works .If lets say Ireland defaults on our Sovreign Debt then every other Member of the Union honours that dept to protect the integrity of the Union even though we would be trown out .Now the danger for the Brits is LEGALLY if the Euro Single Currency was to collapse as Britain would still have the £ they would be LEGALLY liable for all of Europes Debts .Brits understand the Danger of the Single Currency with wasters like Ireland,Italy,Greece France all running deficites greater than their GDP which is technically illegal under EU law its only a matter of time before the Euro gets into serious trouble .How can a Euro be a universal currency when a can of Coke in Dublin is twice as expensive as one in Madrid .How can Europe be equal when we dont all earn the same minimum wage or pay the same tax rates .The deck is stacked in favour of the bigger countries .It has allowed low life thieving scum like Irish Governments cheat the other countries with tax fraud .What your watching at the moment is Britain going into the Hospice trying to relive the age of empire before it dies .Look at the Political leaders in the Uk Boris ,Corbyn some scottish bird running the liberals ,Some Nordie Bird running the DUP not even a member of Parliament .Some Jock Bird running the SNP not even a member of Parliament IRA who donr know the way to Parliament and I donr even know who Plyd Cumry leader is and the idiot Farage who is second only to the Raving monster Looney party leader in his effords to be unelected to Parliament .And they talk about democracy with more than half the leaders unelected .I think both the EU and UK are run by idiots and old scores will be settled Britain think they won the War and France know the Germans got the trophy .Pay down your debts tighten your belt If the shit does hit the fan it will be shit for everybody .Truthfully Dalymount I dont think it matters what the EU offers Britain they are out and we are fucked hard or soft exit .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 29, 2019, 08:46:38 PM
Churchill was some can of piss .He managed to convince the Brits that Dunkirk was a great victory even though they ran to fuck away .Boris is the same convince the unemployables that Brexit is good for them .

It's how ya look at it johnny.... They ran away to fight another day.... Then they won...

No thats the way they portrayed it .The invasion of Normandy was led by an American ,The surrender was taken by an American .The Brits have had the taste of sick in their mouth since they joined the EEC looking at Germany and France doing better than them .Look at the car industry for example Pre war it was British now there is no British car industry or Steel industry .I wouldnt be surprised if Britains biggest industry for generating cash and employment during the 60 was the music industry .Britains main problem is in the Eatly 1900 about 60% of manufactured goods exported world wide were made in the UK .Have a look around your house how much stuff in it was made in England or Ireland .While Britain was busy making WW2 films Germany ,Japan,China and the USA stole their manufacturing industry .Britain no longer has any real role to play in the world just like other empires .Egypt,Italy ,Turks Spain Persians .Britains day is done they like us are only a stone in a puddle self deluded thinking we have any value in the real world
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on July 29, 2019, 08:50:44 PM
BJ and his ilk still think that the UK is a (white) world power.  Hint:  they're not.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 29, 2019, 09:10:33 PM
BJ and his ilk still think that the UK is a (white) world power.  Hint:  they're not.

 Its just a game .The Moggs Cameron and their ilk have borrowed Billions of Dollars they have collapsed the value of the £ and are buying up assetts in Britain .When Brexit is settled one way ot the other the £ recovers in value so they make billions on the Foreign Exchange as they pay back less pounds than they originally borrowed plus all the assetts will have shot up.The biggest losers in all of this will be the minimum wage or unemployable wasters .None of these people give a flying fuck about Britain its all about the money their money .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on July 30, 2019, 05:47:15 AM
Churchill was some can of piss .He managed to convince the Brits that Dunkirk was a great victory even though they ran to fuck away .Boris is the same convince the unemployables that Brexit is good for them .

Sure we had our own here doing the same, I suppose.....we're all being played at every hand's turn.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 30, 2019, 09:11:08 AM
How will Brexit affect us as Taxi drivers ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 30, 2019, 10:23:32 AM
How will Brexit affect us as Taxi drivers ?

 First £ collapses in value will reduce British visitors .If they leave under World Trade Organisation (WTO) terms then everything we import or export from the UK will have an import duty on it so food and other imports go up meaning cost of living increase so people have less disposable income for going out .Irish Food exports to uK become expensive for the Brits due to the low value of sterling so a lot of food processing jobs will be lost if we cant sell it farmers will stop fattening cattle leading to huge los of jobs .Less people in work means government need to raise more tax from existing workers to pay Dole and rent subsidies .We also import ALL our refined fuel from British refineries and we import electricity from the UK dont know if these fuels will incur WTO tarriffs if they do then Electricity Gas petrol diesel will shoot up in price increasing our running costs .I did the sums last year I recon a 10% contraction in GNP the government say 1.5% .If its a hard Brexit we will be back to the 70s it will make the 2008 /2012 slow down insignificant .EU cant change its rules just to suit the UK .Taxi service is a luxury so expect any reduction in disposable income to hit us the pubs and restaurants the hardest .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 30, 2019, 01:19:38 PM
John you will soon see how much yourbelived EU care about Ireland when they get Leo to agree to cave in on the backstop.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 30, 2019, 01:28:09 PM
So John...what do you propose we should do....panic?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 30, 2019, 01:46:34 PM
So John...what do you propose we should do....panic?

Cut your debts ,dont be borrowing big coin especially to put a car under your arse. I dont actually think the Brits are stupit enough for a crash out .Think Boris will be overtrown in September .BUT if they Go for Crash out we are totally Fucked .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on July 30, 2019, 01:47:13 PM
I wont be going down until I'm in a box, will just do what has to be done to survive, positive attitude and hard work will see me through.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 30, 2019, 01:59:23 PM
John you will soon see how much yourbelived EU care about Ireland when they get Leo to agree to cave in on the backstop.

Amazing how little you know about the subject .How can there not be a border between the EU and GB without Ireland being excluded from the single market .The only option for Ireland is to agree to ALL Irish Exports being checked at point of entry into the EU .That means Ireland being treated as second class Europeans ,What message would that send out to the World .THE EU ARE SCUMBAGS WHO WILL SACRIFICE THEIR OWN .If that happened investers would pull out of the Euro and the whole house of cards would collapse .Leo is barking to the EUs tune .Itold you before this is a currency war and the £ is getting hammered fuck all to do with lorry loads of pigs crossing borders .America convinced business to borrow all the worthless bonds they printed to buy shares .Now the EU is loaning all the worthless bonds they printed to investers to buy up british assetts as the £ has collapsed .This is the last battle of WW2 with Europe using the Euro to knock out the £ and America sitting on the sidelines waiting to cash in like they did here with their Vulture funds .Watch the ques of cars going north to shop at Christmas if the £ reaches parity already it would be well worth your while going north for a big monthly shop .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 30, 2019, 03:15:47 PM
So John...what do you propose we should do....panic?

Cut your debts ,dont be borrowing big coin especially to put a car under your arse. I dont actually think the Brits are stupit enough for a crash out .Think Boris will be overtrown in September .BUT if they Go for Crash out we are totally Fucked .

Ah the usual so.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 30, 2019, 03:26:18 PM
Crash out won't happen,there will be a deal.dont listen to this booloxoligy from the likes of Mary loo. The EU will blink,and it can't come quickly enough for me give us back our sovereignty you shower of identity robbing bastards
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 30, 2019, 04:57:05 PM
Crash out won't happen,there will be a deal.dont listen to this booloxoligy from the likes of Mary loo. The EU will blink,and it can't come quickly enough for me give us back our sovereignty you shower of identity robbing bastards
Crash out wont happen Boris will be overtrown EU wont do any deal Ill collect a ton from my mate in Cork .Bookies have stopped betting on Borris to get sacked as PM
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 30, 2019, 07:30:06 PM
Boris will do a deal with Mr Farage to insure vrexit happens.how we have changed as a people .the only thing we in this country seem to be concerned about are the economics implications of vrexit.there is no regard for the loss of our national Identity,our culture,our heritage,or the sovereignty of our country
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 30, 2019, 07:32:17 PM
I never thought I'd say it,but I hughly admire the Brits for having the balls to take their country back
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 30, 2019, 10:00:35 PM
I never thought I'd say it,but I hughly admire the Brits for having the balls to take their country back

They haven't quite achieved that yet though....3yrs and counting.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 30, 2019, 11:54:17 PM
I never thought I'd say it,but I hughly admire the Brits for having the balls to take their country back
.

Jesus listen to yourself waffling about Sovreignty and extoling the virtues of the Brits the Nation that occupies part of your Nation .You want the EU to capitulate to our occupiers .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 31, 2019, 08:34:10 AM
Like I said John,I never thought I would say anything good about the Brits ,but my hatred for the cunts that took my national Identity and my sovereignty is even stronger.myrwpublician credinitals are sound,and I won't answer any questions on here about them.that does not mean I don't support withdrawal from the EU,
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 31, 2019, 09:07:39 AM
Wrap your Sovreign flag around these figures while you enjoy the poverty ...The Central Bank has warned of major job losses across the economy in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

In its latest Quarterly Bulletin, the Central Bank forecasts 34,000 fewer jobs by the end of next year and 110,000 fewer jobs over the next ten years.

It said: "A disorderly Brexit would present enormous challenges for the Irish economy, especially in the near term, and would result in a loss of output and employment compared to a scenario where the UK remained in the EU."

It also warns that a disorderly Brexit would dramatically reduce economic growth and make consumers and businesses spend less.

There could be disruption at ports and airports, while Irish exports would be hit by a weak UK economy and a potentially large fall in the value of sterling.

The bank says that gauging the impact this could have on the Irish economy is "the most uncertain exercise" it has ever had to carry out.

The UK is set to leave the European Union on 31 October.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 31, 2019, 09:26:16 AM
In the same way that you throw out these figures based on assessment by the central bank,those on the leave side would dispute it,and say it's all scaremongering unless and until brexit actually happens,my guess is as good as yours.in other words who can acturately predict what the implications of brexit will be for ANY country within the EU
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on July 31, 2019, 11:25:01 AM
You're right Dalyer....nobody knows the impact.....i'd question anything the central bank says considering it failed so many of our citizens during and after the recession and even now cos it's still fukin asleep....just keep your debts low and ride out any storm that might hit....as I'm sure it will with the way our economy is going,Brexit will be the least of our worries.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 31, 2019, 11:37:02 AM
You're right Dalyer....nobody knows the impact.....i'd question anything the central bank says considering it failed so many of our citizens during and after the recession and even now cos it's still fukin asleep....just keep your debts low and ride out any storm that might hit....as I'm sure it will with the way our economy is going,Brexit will be the least of our worries.

 Your getting there Hal 50% of our exports come from 10 companies .Ireland might get out Irelanded by the Brits .Ireland were the first country to set up tax free zones .Shannon Free Zone operated by fencing off the industrial estate and no tax was payable on anything imported or exported unless it was sold in ireland so Companies imported parts from all over the world built the finished product in Shannon then exported it on demand to wherever it was sold .IF or when the Brits open tax free ports or zones as they will no longer be restricted in doing this as they are no longer in the EU how long will it be before big Pharma move out of Ireland and into the UK for TAX REASONS .Theres more to Brexit than exporting Pigs or Porter to the UK .The Sodomite Prince got played EU be happy enough to see Ireland get it commuppance for all the years our low life scumbag tax cheating government have been helping big business rod theit tax Euro .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 31, 2019, 12:09:49 PM
Democracy for Dummies .By election tomorrow in England .Who will get the most votes the candidate from U kip or the candidate from the Raving Monster Looney Party .My money is on the loonies .Hard to believe U Kip once got the highest percentage of the vote in a European election but now will struggle to get above 150 votes Democracy totally over rated .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 31, 2019, 01:07:27 PM
Crash out wont happen Boris will be overtrown EU wont do any deal Ill collect a ton from my mate in Cork .Bookies have stopped betting on Borris to get sacked as PM
I dunno where your getting your betting information from John M ?? the betting is as it was last week;
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/boris-johnson-exit-date (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/boris-johnson-exit-date)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 31, 2019, 01:15:37 PM
The only thing I'm interested in Europe at the moment iswether or not Dundalk can pull off a major shock in the champions league tonight 6 o clock eir sports for those of you interested COME ON  THE LEAGUE OF IRELAND
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 31, 2019, 01:25:03 PM
I saw the 90 minute betting earlier and Dundalk @ 6/1 seemed way over-priced.

It's a Two-legged game and the home team have the advantage of the away goal.
This has happened so many times before, the home team have the advantage so they know not what to do ?
Sit on the Lead and Defend ?
Or Attack ?
Why attack when your already in front ?
The home team will be in Two minds.

Dundalk know exactly what they have to do,
they have a single purpose, Attack !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 31, 2019, 02:37:17 PM
Crash out wont happen Boris will be overtrown EU wont do any deal Ill collect a ton from my mate in Cork .Bookies have stopped betting on Borris to get sacked as PM
I dunno where your getting your betting information from John M ?? the betting is as it was last week;
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/boris-johnson-exit-date (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/boris-johnson-exit-date)

Bit opaque Boris Johnson Exit Date .....Exit from What ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 31, 2019, 02:45:21 PM
Exit from the unelected brurocrats who took his country's sovereignty and national Identity
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on July 31, 2019, 02:59:18 PM
Crash out wont happen Boris will be overtrown EU wont do any deal Ill collect a ton from my mate in Cork .Bookies have stopped betting on Borris to get sacked as PM
I dunno where your getting your betting information from John M ?? the betting is as it was last week;
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/boris-johnson-exit-date (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/boris-johnson-exit-date)

Bit opaque Boris Johnson Exit Date .....Exit from What ?
I don't know, maybe Exit from the toilet after his next dump ?
Or maybe Exit as the sitting Prime Minister of England ?

I'm sure every company has all it's rules laid out in full !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2019, 04:03:49 PM
To be fair, our nation was in a right state before we took direction from the faceless bureaucrats. We had a go at running it ourselves, we just not cut out for devising, implementing and enforcing regulation. Culturally, we're far better suited to circumvention of regulation... pleasant little chancers if you will.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 31, 2019, 04:08:10 PM
Ah come on now your ratship
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on July 31, 2019, 04:10:05 PM
To be fair, our nation was in a right state before we took direction from the faceless bureaucrats. We had a go at running it ourselves, we just not cut out for devising, implementing and enforcing regulation. Culturally, we're far better suited to circumvention of regulation... pleasant little chancers if you will.

An Apple a day adds up tobillions .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2019, 04:12:26 PM
Fair enough, DM... sure Charlie was good to the pensioners and always bought everyone in every pub on the Malahide Road a pint at election time... anall!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2019, 04:14:30 PM
Media have to be careful in cases like this, similar to the one where the young girl was murdered in Lucan.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on July 31, 2019, 04:31:16 PM
Charles was some man alright,the big fella looked after him well
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 02, 2019, 08:32:33 AM
Great performance by the Brexit Party last night Dollymount .Do you still think they will win more than four seats in a General election ?But on the darker side of things looks like the Conservatives will win any general election when Boris calls one .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 02, 2019, 10:56:46 AM
Democracy for Dummies .By election tomorrow in England .Who will get the most votes the candidate from U kip or the candidate from the Raving Monster Looney Party .My money is on the loonies .Hard to believe U Kip once got the highest percentage of the vote in a European election but now will struggle to get above 150 votes Democracy totally over rated .

The Official Monster Raving Loony Party beat Ukip at the by-election in Brecon and Radnorshire, pushing the ardent Eurosceptics into last place.

The satirical group known for its nonsensical policies proved more popular than the Brexiteers in the crucial vote which saw the Lib Dems take the seat from the Tories.

The Loonies’ candidate Lady Lily the Pink finished fifth with 334 votes, ahead of Ukip hopeful Liz Philipps on just 242 votes.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 04, 2019, 01:09:04 PM
John I see your pal Mr Barrinear has said in reply to the brexit sec, that he is bound by the EU commission not to reopen the withdrawal agreement that is not to say he would not do it if it was up to him alone I wonder is this the first chunk in the EU armour ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 05, 2019, 10:29:19 AM
I think I explained this before Dollymount The Eu= the Euro the UK=£ this is a currency war nothing to do with anything else only money .Your Friend Donny T has Fucked the world economy with trade wars and pressure on the Independence of the Federal reserve to cut interest rates .As of 10 oc this morning if you want to buy German Government bonds you have to pay then .5% in other words it will cost you money to lend them money .China are going to devalue their coin this will shoot up the value of the Dollar meaning poorer countries that borrowed Dollars will have to repay more of their national currencies.For Ireland it means our national pension fund will make no return on investment so no cash being generated to pay future pensions ,the whole world order of money is dieing watch the price og gold ,silver and bitcoin rising .Poverty is the greatest source of war ,war is good for profits .Look around you conflict everywhere from trade wars and national stand offs ,ships being hijacked riots in Hong Kong .If one of these gets out of hand it will trigger the others .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 06, 2019, 07:08:42 AM
Still annoying the Brits by posting in their media ....The die is cast Britain are leaving but then what ?.Britain is a broken society and Brexit wont fix it .Britain won the War but Germany got the trophy ,Since the end of the war Britain has been navel gazing .Spent all its energy making War films and pop music while Germany and Japan took over its manufacturing industries.Hard to believe now that Wales was the first industralised country in the world (industrial being more people employed in industry than those employed on the land )Britain got mugged by its own smuggness it decided to continue the fight but this time it fought itself .Strikes killed off the Shipbuilding,Car,Mining industries .Brexit might be good for the National Spirit but then what .What do you have to sell to the world .Brexit may turn out to be Old Mother Hubbard when you go to the cupboard you might find it is empty .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 06, 2019, 10:39:04 AM
Britian might we'll be engaged in war games if this thing with Iran kicks off
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 06, 2019, 10:51:58 AM
Britian might we'll be engaged in war games if this thing with Iran kicks off

Seen that Boris decided to join the Yanks but that was logical Brits leave the EU they dont have the backing of the EU military .Brits need the Yanks to have their backs .Boris is very quiet on Hong Kong even though the brits are  guarintores of the two in one agreement .The DUP must take note when push comes to shove the Brits will abandon the colonials .Had a bet this morning 50@10 a second Referendum .Think Boris will try and hold on to power so wont want an election he might not win so might go second referendum with a clear Question UK leave no deal just leave or remain .The Tories will canvas for leave the rest will go for remain .He might say the Parliament are blocking the will of the peoples first vote .If he loses and I think he will that shuts up the brexiteers he then spends billions on dole Hospitals ,Schools roads rail holds on till 2021 then calls an election wins a landslide then tells the Brexiteers and the DUP to go fuck themselves .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 06, 2019, 10:59:12 AM
That's a hell of a lot of predictions John, I don't think a second ref will be nesswsary, because I really think your palLeo will blink first under pressure from the EU that way they can save face, and we'll look stupid
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 06, 2019, 11:04:46 AM
That's a hell of a lot of predictions John, I don't think a second ref will be nesswsary, because I really think your palLeo will blink first under pressure from the EU that way they can save face, and we'll look stupid

EU cant blink it has nothing to do with Leo the EU own his sad arse .Boris wants power he could lose it in a general election if the EU dont cave then Boris needs to find a way to save his government .He will blame the Parliament for not enforcing the referendum result another hung Parliament wont solve the problem and keep him in power but a second referendum will solve the problem and get him off the hook .The Maths just dosent add up for a crash out Brexit .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 06, 2019, 11:15:39 AM
Well I think there WILL be a deal, and I think the concession will come from Ireland under pressure from the EU. They will simply say ah well if Ireland are ok with it, then we will also agree. But it will be them who put us under pressure in the first place to offer the Brits something. That way the EU can save face that it was Ireland who conceded and they just went along with it
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 06, 2019, 11:34:19 AM
Dont think the EU will budge but we will see .Between now and Haloween dont be surprised to see a 9/11 type event in Britain there is no unity among British Politics so now is the time to attack .Sending Warships to do a bit of saber rattling in the Gulf might not go down well in certain deserts .Britain is a Broken Society it needs an event to get everybody singing from the same hymn book .Its a fucked up world nothing is ruled inor out .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 06, 2019, 11:42:05 AM
Those aliens that have been watching us for years will step in at the 11th hour and take out the button pressers!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 06, 2019, 11:53:27 AM
9/11 in America let them set up the Patriot Act that lets them know exactly how many times you breath or how often your heart beats .Brexit wont fix whats wrong in Britain They need a reason to sing Knees Up Mother Brown or Its a Long Way to Tipparary .They love a good song Three Lions represents their losing football team but the sing it every world cup .Maggie was going to lose the Election until she bombed a little island in the Athlantic .Now the funny thing about that was they bombed their own Island and not Mainland Argentina .They shot their own citizens in Northren Eireann .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 06, 2019, 12:08:03 PM
John your gas I love your posts
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 06, 2019, 12:09:17 PM
I thought he got banned!! rofl
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 06, 2019, 12:13:52 PM
Interesting question. If there is no deal, will the Brits still have to pay the 39 billion ? The EU says they will
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 06, 2019, 12:17:28 PM
Interesting question. If there is no deal, will the Brits still have to pay the 39 billion ? The EU says they will

What will be the consequences if they don't....throw them out!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 06, 2019, 12:27:06 PM
No but possibly prevent them in some way operating under WTO rules or something else. I don't know , I'm just asking the question
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 06, 2019, 12:29:12 PM
So many questions Dalyer...so many questions!! lol
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 06, 2019, 01:09:33 PM
No but possibly prevent them in some way operating under WTO rules or something else. I don't know , I'm just asking the question

If they dont pay it dosent matter a fuck but it brings into question their committment to their commitments .Bit like their committments to Hong Kong and Ulster  rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl DUPed .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 06, 2019, 01:41:51 PM
 could my prediction be correct ? Leo claimed in Belfast today, that there could be room for further negotiations
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 06, 2019, 01:48:34 PM
could my prediction be correct ? Leo claimed in Belfast today, that there could be room for further negotiations

Where did you buy your ears ?Ill try again .The Eu is a UNION of like minded states .They cannot cut Ireland adrift if they do then its all over .The Brits need to eat shit accept the deal or revoke article 50 or crash out and be rode to death by every country on earth .What do the Brits have that any other person on earth wants and cant get somewhere else apart from a Uk passport or a Smiths CD .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 06, 2019, 01:51:31 PM
When I went for my last eye test the young girl in Specsavers asked if I wanted a free hearing test... Yes, two sugars please, says I.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 06, 2019, 02:02:20 PM
When I went for my last eye test the young girl in Specsavers asked if I wanted a free hearing test... Yes, two sugars please, says I.

What...louder!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 06, 2019, 02:03:31 PM
An old man was wondering if his wife had a hearing problem. So one night, he stood behind her while she was sitting in her lounge chair.

He spoke softly to her, "Honey, can you hear me?" There was no response.

He moved a little closer and said again, "Honey, can you hear me?" Still, there was no response.

Finally he moved right behind her and said, "Honey, can you hear me?"

She replied, "For the third time, Yes!"
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 06, 2019, 02:09:30 PM
John are you seriously telling me that if Ireland agrees to make acceptable changes to the backstop , or agreed to scrap it altogether, that the EU  would not agree??
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 06, 2019, 02:19:44 PM
Backstop, sounds like a contraceptive 2 Quares might use
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 06, 2019, 02:26:14 PM
Backstop, sounds like a contraceptive 2 Quares might use

Quares needin contraceptives....well I be....maybe call it the Buttplug!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 06, 2019, 02:42:41 PM
Backstop, sounds like a contraceptive 2 Quares might use

Quares needin contraceptives....well I be....maybe call it the Buttplug!!
Funny Auld World
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 06, 2019, 03:10:33 PM
Did ya ever wonder how women queries do it, sure they don't have a sick between them
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 06, 2019, 03:12:59 PM
Did ya ever wonder how women queries do it, sure they don't have a sick between them
I like cucumber on me sambos  rofl
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 06, 2019, 03:17:14 PM
Do ya reckon they shove a cucumber up their Nat king Cole ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 06, 2019, 03:19:38 PM
Do ya reckon they shove a cucumber up their Nat king Cole ?
Joe Lanny
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 06, 2019, 03:20:32 PM
Do ya reckon they shove a cucumber up their Nat king Cole ?
Joe Lanny
They probably buy them "Strapadicktome" yokes as well
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 06, 2019, 03:22:01 PM
Cindy: 'My Susan, that's a large penis you have there'

Susan: 'Yeah I just had a strapadicktome. from now on you call me Steve. Bitch
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Bob Shillin on August 06, 2019, 05:25:52 PM
Did ya ever wonder how women queries do it, sure they don't have a sick between them
For the education of the innocent.

https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/artificial-penis-for-women-and-lesbian.html (https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/artificial-penis-for-women-and-lesbian.html)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 09, 2019, 02:10:00 PM
Even before the Horror of Haloween Britain is sinking ....https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49290926 (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49290926)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 09, 2019, 02:13:25 PM
Going up to the UK next Tues or Wed, erm. Should I buy my Sterling now?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 09, 2019, 02:15:05 PM
Must be music to your ears John, on another note altogether. Uber have lost 5.2billion in the 2nd quarter alone they have NEVER made a profit why do they keep going ??
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 09, 2019, 02:20:59 PM
Market penetration. Most corporations aim to minimise profits / maximise losses. Check out Trump's losses in the 80s/90s.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 09, 2019, 02:32:18 PM
Going up to the UK next Tues or Wed, erm. Should I buy my Sterling now?

Not for the few sheckles you will be spending .You might get parity in some shops so no need to change at all.Anyhoo The Italians are infighting Government should collapse soon put pressure on the Euro .Will Leo opt for by elections or will he look at the 4 vacancies and see two lefties and two government TD now MEP and not bother as it dosent upset the maths .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 09, 2019, 02:35:44 PM
Must be music to your ears John, on another note altogether. Uber have lost 5.2billion in the 2nd quarter alone they have NEVER made a profit why do they keep going ??

Britain is falling apart Uber on the other hand is a roaring success .Its purpose was to create shares for investers to buy they done that .Important that you have a few losers in your portfolio for tax reasons .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 09, 2019, 02:38:18 PM
Important that you have a few loosers ??   Are you winding me up John ? This company have NEVER made a profit. In fact they have never even come close to breaking even
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 09, 2019, 02:46:23 PM
Important that you have a few loosers ??   Are you winding me up John ? This company have NEVER made a profit. In fact they have never even come close to breaking even

Economics is not your thing then .Britain.Japan.USA.China .you name it no country has ever made a profit .Buying shares in UBER is a bit like Supporting Sunderland you know they will never win anything but you still support them as the league needs them to function .You look at Apple Shares the price you pay to own them is 22 times the value of their forcast annual earnings .Now if anything happens like a trade war or a better phone is developed your Apple Shares will lose value you simply dont know what will happen but if you hold Uber shares in your portfolio you can write off any losses against profits on other shares and who knows UBER could take off and be wotyh billions if it does you win if it dosent you got paid by offsetting your winnings .Its simple financial management .Travis has cashed out so have most of the original investers so in reality a Huge success .FOR THEM and thats all that matters .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 09, 2019, 03:04:57 PM
Your right finance is not my thing, but I think I'd rather invest in a profitable company, rather then a none profitable company . I know somebody like you, and their philosophy is why would I pay 100 euro for a new toaster , when I can get the same thing 10 doors up for 200 euro
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 09, 2019, 03:17:44 PM
Your right finance is not my thing, but I think I'd rather invest in a profitable company, rather then a none profitable company . I know somebody like you, and their philosophy is why would I pay 100 euro for a new toaster , when I can get the same thing 10 doors up for 200 euro

FFS No company quoted on the stock market is worth what they are asking for it .Its a game of pass the parcel someone is going to get caught holding it when it turns into a steaming pile of shite .Do you remember ICI or BOAC or Enron .Go back to when you were a kid .Roches Stores ,Clerys ,Irish Press McBirneys .The share holders lost their bollox but the real business was these fronts were used to finance the purchase of the Property and you will find an Individual and not the shareholders own the property .Read Rich Dad Poor Day you can actually listen to it on Youtube .The big bucks is in Property and Land .

 Look at Irelands most profitable piece of land .You might think its some multi story office block in the Google Ghetto or some Posh Hotel where people play golf .But its the Store house .How many million does that make a year per square foot .Guinness sold the Brand to Diageo I bet they didnt sell the Property .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on August 09, 2019, 03:36:44 PM
Important that you have a few loosers ??   Are you winding me up John ? This company have NEVER made a profit. In fact they have never even come close to breaking even

Economics is not your thing then .Britain.Japan.USA.China .you name it no country has ever made a profit .Buying shares in UBER is a bit like Supporting Sunderland you know they will never win anything but you still support them as the league needs them to function .You look at Apple Shares the price you pay to own them is 22 times the value of their forcast annual earnings .Now if anything happens like a trade war or a better phone is developed your Apple Shares will lose value you simply dont know what will happen but if you hold Uber shares in your portfolio you can write off any losses against profits on other shares and who knows UBER could take off and be wotyh billions if it does you win if it dosent you got paid by offsetting your winnings .Its simple financial management .Travis has cashed out so have most of the original investers so in reality a Huge success .FOR THEM and thats all that matters .
RTE.ie: Uber reports record losses.
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0809/1067818-uber-reports-record-losses/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0809/1067818-uber-reports-record-losses/)

A bit like Eircom shareholders holding on too long.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 09, 2019, 03:41:34 PM
Donny T just made a cunt of himself watch China fuck with him now ,Stock market will take a big hit for his big mouth .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 09, 2019, 03:46:51 PM
Ah will ya leave him alone ffs
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 09, 2019, 03:52:40 PM
Ah will ya leave him alone ffs

Dont think you get this cunt .He is playing his own game to suit himself .He borrowed Billions of Euro ,Yen ,Rubles all this trade war shit just drives up the value of the Dollar against these currencies so when he pays back his debts it costs him millions less .He is also helping his Saudi mates as oil is paid for in Dollars.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 09, 2019, 03:55:55 PM
John I don't think you get me. I told you before I don't care what Donnys motives are he speaks my language FOREIGNERS OUT
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 09, 2019, 03:58:02 PM
John I don't think you get me. I told you before I don't care what Donnys motives are he speaks my language FOREIGNERS OUT

Where did he say that .How many FOREIGNERS has he trown out .?Its all bollox to play to ignorant voting clowns .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 09, 2019, 04:33:31 PM
The only ignorant voting clowns are the ones who vote for Nancy (open borders) Palosis gang of fukkwits who'd rather look after Muslims then look after their own
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Vikkiz on August 09, 2019, 04:36:25 PM
Your right finance is not my thing, but I think I'd rather invest in a profitable company, rather then a none profitable company . I know somebody like you, and their philosophy is why would I pay 100 euro for a new toaster , when I can get the same thing 10 doors up for 200 euro
It’s similar to a landlord having an empty premises than take a discount on the rent.

Let’s say an empty shop can be rented for 20,000pm but no one wants to pay 20,000 for it. So instead of getting 10,000pm for the empty unit and getting some income, The landlord can leave it empty and write the 20,000pm off in their tax returns which is more lucritive for the landlord
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 09, 2019, 04:39:17 PM
You have to respect President Trump. The only politician I have ever seen with the balls to say what he thinks about foreigners. Where our spinless gutless politicians are afraid of their shite to say anything about migrants because of their fear of the immigrant council of Ireland, and the bleeding hearts brigade.in case it results in a career ending move
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 09, 2019, 04:42:24 PM
Peter Casey ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 09, 2019, 04:44:41 PM
Peter Casey ?

Peter Who ?Tried to get elected twice failed twice bit like Farage .Most people know its bullshit .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 09, 2019, 04:54:14 PM
Peter Casey ?

Peter Who ?Tried to get elected twice failed twice bit like Farage .Most people know its bullshit .
Wasn't afraid to speak up about the creamers
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 09, 2019, 04:54:55 PM
I don't respect Peter Casey, because he is not nearly forciverious enough when slagging off the team crackers . Trump is uniquivicol in his condemnation of foreigners. No beating around the bush there I wish he was a bit more right wing though
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 09, 2019, 04:59:16 PM
I don't respect Peter Casey, because he is not nearly forciverious enough when slagging off the team crackers . Trump is uniquivicol in his condemnation of foreigners. No beating around the bush there I wish he was a bit more right wing though

Watch Italy if Salvini wins the Electionyou can go and buy some jackboots and a black shirt .Facism will be alive and well all across Europe .Trumplit the fuse and you might not like it when the whole thing goes BOOM
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 09, 2019, 05:11:37 PM
I sincerely hope Mr Salvini wins the election with his party the league. That fukkin gang of fukkwits he is in colition with the 5 star movement I hope will be a spent force
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 09, 2019, 05:29:03 PM
Here is a notion Dalymount .Salvini collapses the Italian Government then Brexit is certain as it would take all 27 to agree any change but as Italy would have no government how could that happen ?Is SalvinI challenging Europe through stelth .?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 09, 2019, 06:23:59 PM
I never thought of that
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 09, 2019, 06:27:19 PM
I still have a fear that brexit won't happen . I'm still afraid the obstructionists will win out in the end . You know the people I'm talking about , the parlimentarients who do not respect democracy. Brexit should have been done on 29/02019
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 10, 2019, 09:21:18 AM
Had a very interesting conversation with two Dutch Fellas last Night that was sort of scarey .They recon if there is a Brexit that EU peacekeepers could be stationed in Ireland as part of the EU common defence programme .They said Ireland does not have the Military to defend Europes Border .How would they know and who were they ?

  You remember two years ago when it looked like the Government might fall We joined the European common defence alliance .Also talking to a printer who closed down yesterday let 15 people go .Said he was printing Mags for sale in the Uk but due to the collapse of the £ he is getting paid less than it cost him to print them .He recons a lot of Irish companies who quoted in £s are down 30% in real value since the Brexit vote and if it goes £ for Euro and you have long term contracts to supply you will go broke .He recons thats what the strikes at the beef factories is really about .The factories have long term contracts to supply British Shops with Irish Beef say at £2 a kilo that £2 use to be worth 2.60 Euro but now its only worth 2.14 and might hit one for one .He recons the Beef factories are short changing the Farmers to make up for their currency loses .But on the up side if your importing a part worn motor from the UK its getting cheaper .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 10, 2019, 11:39:56 AM
Swings and roundabouts
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 10, 2019, 12:46:54 PM
Here John. Here's a question for you. The British parliament says they are going to force Boris into asking for yet another extension. If Macron , and any of the other member states say no, fukk off, what happens then ? as far as I remember Macron was opposed to granting the LAST extension, so I don't think he will be Keen to grant another
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 10, 2019, 01:45:45 PM
Not for the few sheckles you will be spending .You might get parity in some shops so no need to change at all.Anyhoo The Italians are infighting Government should collapse soon put pressure on the Euro .Will Leo opt for by elections or will he look at the 4 vacancies and see two lefties and two government TD now MEP and not bother as it dosent upset the maths .

I wanted to use my new Revolut card. Do you reckon I'll be better off bringing used notes and trying to haggle them down to par, then?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 11, 2019, 11:01:00 AM
Here John. Here's a question for you. The British parliament says they are going to force Boris into asking for yet another extension. If Macron , and any of the other member states say no, fukk off, what happens then ? as far as I remember Macron was opposed to granting the LAST extension, so I don't think he will be Keen to grant another

Brits will NOT ask for an extension .the EU have poked the bear Boris wont ask unless there is a general election .If Boris backs down or Leo Backs down.I believe they will be assasinated as traitors .Both sides will lose through Brexit but they will both stand proud if they stand their ground .Brits cannot give in to Europe Ireland cant give in to Britain .

 Britain is broken full of wasters ans dole spongers Ireland is a fucking kip as Dumphy said just bad management .Both countries need a revolution to overtrow their present systems .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 12, 2019, 07:23:38 AM
@ Do;;ymount .Give todays Indo a read ,two things I already hilited Ireland looking for a seat at the UN make it easier when they post Foreign soldiers in Ireland to protect Europe now the Brits are out .Then you have Leo realizing he is only a Pantomine Teaoseach Borris is going to piss down his throat and walk out of Government Buildings after any meeting and claim that prick is asking for it .Leo should open a car wash in Blanch he hasent got a fucking clue how to play politics .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 12, 2019, 10:06:41 AM
stg£100.00 = €107.98 on Revolut right now.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 12, 2019, 10:24:33 AM
John I already gave my prediction. I said all along there will be a deal, and the concession will come from the Irish side. They will move from a position of no renegotiation of the withdrawal agreement, to a position where a compromise will be found. The fact that Leo has to meet Boris, would indicate that this is a possibility. Did I not predict this all along ! all of this will be done with the EU blessing
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 12, 2019, 10:56:48 AM
John I already gave my prediction. I said all along there will be a deal, and the concession will come from the Irish side. They will move from a position of no renegotiation of the withdrawal agreement, to a position where a compromise will be found. The fact that Leo has to meet Boris, would indicate that this is a possibility. Did I not predict this all along ! all of this will be done with the EU blessing

Dollymount you simply dont understand .This has NOTHING to do with Ireland .Its simple Norn Eireann is part of Britain who are outside of the EU .To protect the security of Trade there HAS to be a border between the EU and non EU states .If there is not thenevery other EU member which borders another non EU state will call for the removal of borders to allow them trade freely with their non EU neighbours .Ireland and Leo have ABSOLUTELY NO SAY in this unless Leo decides that Ireland is a second class EU member and that there should be no border between the UK and Ireland and that means that there will be a border and checks between Ireland and the rest of the EU to make sure Brits are not smuggling goods into the UK through Ireland .

 Now the problem with customs checks between Ireland and the European mainland is it would send out a message that the EU are willing to treat their members as second rate members so FDIs would be more likely to set up in France or Germany and not a stinking backward second rate EU member like us .Smaller members like Malta,Cypress and the eastern block would then look upon the EU as eliteist and would begin to think about leaving .Plus if the EU gives in to British Bullying then the likes of Spain,Italy Holland might decide to threaten to leave to get what they want .This has absolutely nothing to do with Leo he is electioneering flashing his ballbag to make himself look impressive for when the economy crashes ,he wants to be able to say I tried to stand up against them buy in reality he fucked up he made this into a UK v Ireland debate in the British Press when it is a UK inflicted self wound and has nothing to do with Ireland .Leos stupidity and lack of Political know how has put every Irish Person in the UK in peril .Listen to every other Political leader in Ireland including the IRAs political wing none of them are calling for a deal with the Crown .Leo is showboating like Trump and Boris he is no politician he is a Pantomine Taoiseach .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 13, 2019, 04:31:08 PM
Is it possible that honk Kong could go back under British rule, if the protester's are successful ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 13, 2019, 04:41:56 PM
Is it possible that honk Kong could go back under British rule, if the protester's are successful ?

FUCK OFF YOU IDIOT .What is this love you have for Britain and the Crown .First you say we should doff our caps to them now you think that they have some right to a piece of land on the other side of the world .The Chinease will dissapear a lot of those protesters just like the Rohinga Hong Kong protesters will be fed to the pigs .China wont tolerate this illegal activity Hong Kong is part of China just like Ulster is Irish .The Hong Kong protesters are the equivlent of Loyalists who after reunification will protest that they are still living in Britain .China should shoot the fuckers put an end to it .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 13, 2019, 05:01:17 PM
Very aggressive opening there John...it's no wonder you're barred from every chipper in Clondalkin...which,come to think of it is no bad thing!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 13, 2019, 05:11:37 PM
Very aggressive opening there John...it's no wonder you're barred from every chipper in Clondalkin...which,come to think of it is no bad thing!!

Why the fuck would China give some of their country to Britain .Just watching the rioting scum kicking a fella around the airport .Shoot the fuckers
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on August 13, 2019, 05:36:45 PM
Very aggressive opening there John...it's no wonder you're barred from every chipper in Clondalkin...which,come to think of it is no bad thing!!

Why the fuck would China give some of their country to Britain .Just watching the rioting scum kicking a fella around the airport .Shoot the fuckers
Red incense burner hill.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2019, 07:10:51 AM
John does not want to see democracy prevail in Honk Kong
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2019, 07:13:49 AM
I wonder will this protest in Honk Kong eventually spread to China inself. Could this be the start of the whole region uprising for democracy ??
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 14, 2019, 07:19:54 AM
John does not want to see democracy prevail in Honk Kong

They have Democracy they got a deal but young thugs who are Chinease as most of them were born after the Brits Lease ran out want to ignore the deal .Hong Kong is to China what Ballyfermot is to Ireland .Its just an area .What do you think would happen if the lads from ballyfermot took over the Airport and kicked shit out of someone .You must only have BBC1
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 14, 2019, 07:21:44 AM
I wonder will this protest in Honk Kong eventually spread to China inself. Could this be the start of the whole region uprising for democracy ??

Democracy like when UKip got the highest euro vote five years ago but now cant beat the Raving Monster Looney Party .Democracy is over rated its only a fashion statement of its time .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2019, 07:42:19 AM
Well I must confess I don't know much about the Hong Kong situation, but is it not the case that the protest is in favour of them looking for democracy ?   Could this demand also spread to China ? Although why they would want democracy is anyone's guess sure democracy died in Western Europe on 29/ 03/2019  when the British people voted to leave the EU and the opposers of that decision made sure it didn't happen. WHY WOULD THEY WANT THAT KIND OF DEMOCERCY ???
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 14, 2019, 08:45:05 AM
Hong Kong was leased from China by the Brits when the lease was upthey handed it back Chris Patton sold out the locals like every Brit before him .The Deal was for the next 50 years there would be one country China but two systems .Hong Kong were allowed self rule .they only have 23 years of self rule left .Now kids born after reunification are Chinease Citizens and they dont want to be part of china ,but they are under international law they are under Un conventions they are Chinease simple as ..If it was a poor colony they would jump at fullunion with China but because the average Hong Kong Chinease is about 70 times more afluent than main land chinease this is about money nothing to do with Democracy its like all freedom fighters its always about Money .What do you think would happen if Dublin wanted to break away from Ireland or London from England and we took over the airports do you think the Brits or Irish wouldnt of shot us dead after a few weeks of Protest .you can bet they would .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 14, 2019, 12:32:06 PM
Ended up using my Revolut card, erm. None of them would take Euros at par... one actually quoted 75p to the Euro, presumably as an opening gambit.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 14, 2019, 12:36:18 PM
Ended up using my Revolut card, erm. None of them would take Euros at par... one actually quoted 75p to the Euro, presumably as an opening gambit.

Thieving foreigners £1000 on the bank counter will get you 1200 in European Coin .


Fat finger there 10,000 will get you 10,020 banks are fucking people AGAIN
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 14, 2019, 12:41:27 PM
Thieving foreigners £1000 on the bank counter will get you 1200 in European Coin .

€1,080 at current exchange rates - excluding the bank's margin. If you can get €1,200 open your Revolut application, convert all your money to Sterling and get your arse down to the bank.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2019, 01:54:03 PM
Ah fukk ya rat . I had him going a out Honk Kong and ya buttes in with her fukkin revoult cobblers
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 14, 2019, 07:57:49 PM
Have a look Dollymount Senior Conservative Blinked first ....
Tom Tugendhat

@TomTugendhat
 What odds would you give on:
1 UK exits EU by 24 Aug - in time for G7 or before Parliament returns. Art 50 passed so nothing to stop unilateral withdrawal.
2 General Election straight after to get majority.
3 Answer Irish border Q with NI only referendum on NI only backstop?


FUCKING THE NORDIES UNDER THE BUS
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 14, 2019, 08:17:14 PM
He asks the question but doesn't give his own opinion? 

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3 Answer Irish border Q with NI only referendum on NI only backstop?
Interesting.  Haven't seen that before but can't see it happening.  As a good barrister might say, don't ask a question if you don't know the answer in advance...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 14, 2019, 08:26:51 PM
Look at Number 2 .Ill write that for you as Gailge .Fuck the DUP we have a majority dont need the biggoted backward  Drumbeaters .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 14, 2019, 08:45:26 PM
I dunno.  I'm not following it too closely because...well, my NCT is this week and that's more important to me right now  :D  Also, it's like watching the (second?) "longest suicide note in history"...

But I get the feeling that the plebs (who are being lied to) will go with no-deal Brexit but the politicians (& the speaker of the House & the judges/courts) know better and will use the rules to stop BJ.





The longest suicide note in history (wiki) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_longest_suicide_note_in_history)
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"The longest suicide note in history" is an epithet originally used by United Kingdom Labour MP Gerald Kaufman[1] to describe his party's 1983 general election manifesto, which emphasised socialist policies in a more profound manner than previous such documents—and which Kaufman felt would ensure that the Labour Party (then in opposition) would fail to win the election.



@ JohnM:  This is for you (UK angle) https://theconversation.com/why-we-cant-just-blame-rising-inequality-for-the-growth-of-populism-around-the-world-120951
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 14, 2019, 09:12:37 PM
Looking at the Graphs Ireland has done extreamly well .I have a 3 bed house two kids my mother had a two bed house three kids but my great grand mother had two rooms in Cuff Street 9 kids .Ireland in the 40s 50s 60s 70s was a dark desperate kip emigration was a career choice .I remember going into school wearing a Cowboy shirt ,and a bloke in the yard said his brother had a shirt like that and another flowery one that he hated and his ma trew them out .I had both of them my mother bought them in a sale of work in the seven Oaks Convent in Ballyfermot .Ireland played the EEC for every penny we could get Britain fought against it from the start .After Brexit Im going to show kindness to Britain during their Famin and will collect food door to door to send over to them and I will send them my old clothes as well.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2019, 10:04:13 PM
Come on UK, hurry up and bring the unelected brurocrats gangsters in Brussels to their knees
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 14, 2019, 10:08:13 PM
Even if you don't succeed in unraveling that cesspit of dictators who stole and diluted my national Identity, and my country's sovereignty, with their insistence of free movement thank you for trying
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 14, 2019, 11:03:33 PM
Your Nation never existed since Galloping O Hogan and Cucullin drank tea in Maobhs gaff while watching the Bull riding cows out the side window of their Gaff on the Hill of Tara .Ireland has not existed since the dark ages .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 15, 2019, 12:25:12 AM
Dollymount  you think Im acting the bollox but I promise you if there is a hard Brexit thousands of people will lose their lives from Belfast to Dublin and the poor cunts in Britain will end up killing each other .THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT WILL ORDER BRITISH TROOPS ON TO THE STREETS OF BRITAIN  TO KILL BRITISH CITIZENS .MY GUESS IS LIVERPOOL FIRST THEN BIRMINGHAM ,SUNDERLAND THEN LONDON .Brexit is a bit like fucking your mother to annoy your father it makes no sence .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 15, 2019, 07:40:17 AM
John even the most dramatic of predictions from the most anti brexit remainders does not paint a picture anything like as dramatic as you do however I really enjoy reading your very witty posts, I always remember the one about the two lads singing Noreen Bawn in particular
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on August 15, 2019, 08:10:59 AM
Any News on the Sliced Pan ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on August 15, 2019, 08:33:26 AM
Dollymount  you think Im acting the bollox but I promise you if there is a hard Brexit thousands of people will lose their lives from Belfast to Dublin and the poor cunts in Britain will end up killing each other .THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT WILL ORDER BRITISH TROOPS ON TO THE STREETS OF BRITAIN  TO KILL BRITISH CITIZENS .MY GUESS IS LIVERPOOL FIRST THEN BIRMINGHAM ,SUNDERLAND THEN LONDON .Brexit is a bit like fucking your mother to annoy your father it makes no sence .
You Think too much John M, maybe a Yoga or Mediation diet would be better fer you ?
Do you really want me to offer you odds on the ridiculous assumptions that you have posted ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on August 15, 2019, 08:39:25 AM
Dollymount  you think Im acting the bollox but I promise you if there is a hard Brexit thousands of people will lose their lives from Belfast to Dublin and the poor cunts in Britain will end up killing each other .THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT WILL ORDER BRITISH TROOPS ON TO THE STREETS OF BRITAIN  TO KILL BRITISH CITIZENS .MY GUESS IS LIVERPOOL FIRST THEN BIRMINGHAM ,SUNDERLAND THEN LONDON .Brexit is a bit like fucking your mother to annoy your father it makes no sence .
@ John M, You can have 100/1 about all that shite fer as much as ya want ?

You make it sound like an 'Even Money' bet, so 100/1 has to be Value ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 15, 2019, 06:34:53 PM
Poll causes confusion after finding that 2% of Brexit Party members would now vote to remain (https://www.indy100.com/article/brexit-party-members-survation-poll-remain-leave-eu-referendum-9059276)

1 in 50 of the Brexit Party members would vote remain if a new vote was taken  oops
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 15, 2019, 07:08:45 PM
Watty you got to understand what Brexit is .After WW1 Britain was broke there was no work so no tax .The Government introduced Death Duty this had a huge impact on the Aristocrats as they were taxed on their estates when they died most of them had no cash but big gaffs and land .So the Big house was handed over to the National Trust and the land was sold off .The Toffs were furious but they planned to get it back and now they have convinced the Plebs to vote for Brexit .The likes of Cameron ,Reese Mogg ,Johnston and lots of other Toffs engineered this Coup They have borrowed Billions of Dollars at little or no interest from America and as a result of the Brexit threat the £ has fallen so they can snap up great deals all over Britain buying Hotels office Blocks anything worth money .After Brexit is resolved one way or the other The stuff they bought shoots up in value they repay the Yanks and hold on to the rest .Exactly what Vulture funds done in Ireland the English are doing in Britain .Look at the ringleaders all private schoolboys and oxbridge graduates .The Brexit profit is made already the cream is not let licked that depends if they get a hard brexit but the damage is done financially now its down to political dogma do the Old Colonials believe they will be better off out than in .

 Interesting move during the week Farage said the old queen was a fat gin drinking cunt .He knows that will anoy the Old Colonials and stop them voting for him or his party .He no more wants to be an MP than the man in the moon remember he too was a merchant banker .I wonder how many Million he made in CFDs or trading the £ .The poor arsehole who lives in a councel house in Scunthorpe and voted leave will live to regret allowing himself or herself to be played by these cunts .When they realize what has happened there will be revolution in Britain .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 15, 2019, 07:16:16 PM
@JohnM, I don't believe in great conspiracies but there's some truth in what you're saying in the first paragraph. 

I definitely agree that Farage is a menace.  He's spent about 20 years in the EU parliament.  First wife was Irish, 2nd wife is German.  German wife was his EU parliament secretary.  His kids have German passports.  Still, I guess being anti-EU is one way of paying the bills...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 15, 2019, 07:27:56 PM
Follow the money the answer to everything lies with the money .You might notice most banks are no longer paying interest on savings that is to force people to spend it .Look at my Favourite Burglary Deucha Bank Shares were worth 286 Euro today they are worth 6 not even the Irish bailed out banks saw their share price drop like that .The ECB are printing money to loan to wealthy people to buy stuff .Big Dommos Great Granny lived in a Tenement in Dominick Street now one of his Kids rents a small flat in Dominick street .Same old same old same families who owned the tenements probably own the flats .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 15, 2019, 08:10:00 PM
Danish bank launches world’s first negative interest rate mortgage (https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/aug/13/danish-bank-launches-worlds-first-negative-interest-rate-mortgage)

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A Danish bank has launched the world’s first negative interest rate mortgage – handing out loans to homeowners where the charge is minus 0.5% a year.

Negative interest rates effectively mean that a bank pays a borrower to take money off their hands, so they pay back less than they have been loaned.

Jyske Bank, Denmark’s third largest, has begun offering borrowers a 10-year deal at -0.5%, while another Danish bank, Nordea, says it will begin offering 20-year fixed-rate deals at 0% and a 30-year mortgage at 0.5%.

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In Switzerland, the bank UBS last week told its wealthy clients that it would introduce a charge of 0.6% a year if they deposited more than €500,000.

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In reality, the Jyske mortgage borrower in Denmark is likely to end up paying back a little more than they borrowed, as there are still fees and charges to pay to compensate the bank for arranging the deal, even when the nominal rate is negative.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 16, 2019, 09:19:18 AM
I remember posting this simple explination of what was occuring .Sir Humphrey says that the deal between the EU and the UK is a testament to the desire of said parties to oversee a deal that will lead to the onset of part two of the deal that will in turn lead to many other deals culminating in a final deal that will mean that both parties have reached a conclusion in their dealings ,not withstanding the deal which is proposed to facilitate the moving on to the second phrase of the deal is in retrospect not really a deal until a final deal is reachd in which the original deal may be included in an all encompassing deal but furthermore if no such final deal can be reached as a result of the dealings between both the UK and the EU then the first deal that was provisional on the outcome of the overall deal now falls as no deal has been reached in finality  and with hindsight the original deal to allow the second stage of the deal to be exercised now is regarded as no more than an expression of intent to do a deal dependent on that deal actually being done superfluous ,to state that Her Majesties government strives to express its commitment to the simplification of the process by stating clearly their desired outcome of the impending dealings with the clearest of instructions and testament to all involved in such dealings and with a clarity of thought that goes without confusion on conjecture in the hope that such clarity and integrity assists all in reaching a final conclusion to the impending interactions between the EU and the UK negotiating teams that will be acceptable to the UK.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 16, 2019, 09:47:40 AM
Follow the money the answer to everything lies with the money .You might notice most banks are no longer paying interest on savings that is to force people to spend it .Look at my Favourite Burglary Deucha Bank Shares were worth 286 Euro today they are worth 6 not even the Irish bailed out banks saw their share price drop like that .The ECB are printing money to loan to wealthy people to buy stuff .Big Dommos Great Granny lived in a Tenement in Dominick Street now one of his Kids rents a small flat in Dominick street .Same old same old same families who owned the tenements probably own the flats .
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One of the oldest moneyed families in the world have a motto saying exactly that........."If they ever figure out what's going on, we'll be torn apart by them".
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 16, 2019, 10:21:15 AM
John is forever telling me on this forun that I don't understand the full implications of brexit on this country. What I do understand is though, the people of the UK voted to leave the EU, and if you don't respect, or Indeed implement the mandate, your elecrrote have given you, then how can you possibly call yourself a democrat, or claim to live in a democratic society  ? 
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 16, 2019, 10:28:05 AM
John is forever telling me on this forun that I don't understand the full implications of brexit on this country. What I do understand is though, the people of the UK voted to leave the EU, and if you don't respect, or Indeed implement the mandate, your elecrrote have given you, then how can you possibly call yourself a democrat, or claim to live in a democratic society  ?

If Britain Crash out there will be riots if Corbyn organises a Coup there will be riots .Guy Faulks November the 5th the Day the British celebrate the man who tried to overtrow the state would seem like a good day for the shit to hit the fan one way or the other .Only a small majority of THOSE WHO VOTED wanted brexit .Unless you have mandatory voting you cannot have democracy .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 16, 2019, 10:31:23 AM
John is forever telling me on this forun that I don't understand the full implications of brexit on this country. What I do understand is though, the people of the UK voted to leave the EU, and if you don't respect, or Indeed implement the mandate, your elecrrote have given you, then how can you possibly call yourself a democrat, or claim to live in a democratic society  ?

AGAIN your concerned with what happens under the Crown .Why would you give a fuck .the Brits voted for that crap but we who didnt have a vote will suffer the consequences .Do you have a Princess Diana photo on top of your Piano in the Parlour ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 16, 2019, 11:05:17 AM
Dollymount  you think Im acting the bollox but I promise you if there is a hard Brexit thousands of people will lose their lives from Belfast to Dublin and the poor cunts in Britain will end up killing each other .THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT WILL ORDER BRITISH TROOPS ON TO THE STREETS OF BRITAIN  TO KILL BRITISH CITIZENS .MY GUESS IS LIVERPOOL FIRST THEN BIRMINGHAM ,SUNDERLAND THEN LONDON .Brexit is a bit like fucking your mother to annoy your father it makes no sence .
@ John M, You can have 100/1 about all that shite fer as much as ya want ?

You make it sound like an 'Even Money' bet, so 100/1 has to be Value ?


KEN I WONT TAKE THE ODDS but I will try to educate you .

The Peterloo Massacre took place at St Peter's Field, Manchester, Lancashire, England, on Monday 16 August 1819, when cavalry charged into a crowd of 60,000–80,000 who had gathered to demand the reform of parliamentary representation.

The end of the Napoleonic Wars in 1815 had resulted in periods of famine and chronic unemployment, exacerbated by the introduction of the first of the Corn Laws. By the beginning of 1819, the pressure generated by poor economic conditions, coupled with the relative lack of suffrage in Northern England, had enhanced the appeal of political radicalism. In response, the Manchester Patriotic Union, a group agitating for parliamentary reform, organised a demonstration to be addressed by the well-known radical orator Henry Hunt.

Shortly after the meeting began, local magistrates called on the Manchester and Salford Yeomanry to arrest Hunt and several others on the hustings with him. The Yeomanry charged into the crowd, knocking down a woman and killing a child, and finally apprehending Hunt. The 15th Hussars were then summoned by the Chairman of the Lancashire and Cheshire Magistrates, William Hulton, to disperse the crowd. They charged with sabres drawn, and in the ensuing confusion, 18 people were killed and 400–700 were injured. The massacre was given the name Peterloo in an ironic comparison to the Battle of Waterloo, which had taken place four years earlier.

Historian Robert Poole has called the Peterloo Massacre one of the defining moments of its age. In its own time, the London and national papers shared the horror felt in the Manchester region, but Peterloo's immediate effect was to cause the government to crack down on reform, with the passing of what became known as the Six Acts. It also led directly to the foundation of the Manchester Guardian, but had little other effect on the pace of reform. In a survey conducted by The Guardian in 2006, Peterloo came second to the Putney Debates as the event from radical British history that most deserved a proper monument or a memorial. Peterloo is commemorated by a plaque close to the site, a replacement for an earlier one that was criticised as being inadequate as it did not reflect the scale of the massacre. A new monument is being built in front of the Manchester Central Convention Centre and will be unveiled on the 200th anniversary.


In 1919 the British army were ordered to fix bayonnetts and charge a crowd in Liverpool .In 1969 British Soldiers Shot dead British subjects on the streets of Derry and Belfast both parts of the UK .Almost certain within 6 months of Brexit Troops will be back on the streets of Britain .You put trained Killers on the streets to defend the State you must be willing to shoot .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 16, 2019, 11:12:59 AM
A single conversation across a table with a wise person is worth a fuck load more than some cunt who thinks History began with Google......Battle of Clontarf...............El Alamein.............all about the Brits establishing Nation States all over the globe...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 16, 2019, 11:23:35 AM
When you see the Brits not moving on Kashmere or Hong Kong or joining in full with the War Mongering Yanks you know they are holding back their troops to defend Britain against an uprising .Corbyn is playing a dangerous game trying to overtrow the Government and take power .If he really thinks Brits wont Brexit then Force Boob Boob to call a general election winner takes all .If I was a betting man I might consider a few coins on a Major Attrosity in Mainland Britain in the Next Few Weeks .God forbid a few suicide bombers at Soccer matches causing stampeeds with hundreds if not thousands killed .Somebody somewhere will attack Britain now it is at its weakest and there are a lot of Nations with an axe to grind .Macron and Merkel are very quiet they are waiting for Britain to be brought to its knees Their Silence speaks volume .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 16, 2019, 12:21:53 PM
John just because I'm an arch brexiteer does not make me a brit lover. In this case it just so happens we both want the same thing, but for different reasons the Brits want out for economic reasons, I want out because I want the sovereignty of our country returned along with my national Identity and control of our borders. If you knew anything about my past history I gaurentee you would not accuse of being a brit lover I'll say no more than that about it
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on August 16, 2019, 07:01:48 PM
John just because I'm an arch brexiteer does not make me a brit lover. In this case it just so happens we both want the same thing, but for different reasons the Brits want out for economic reasons, I want out because I want the sovereignty of our country returned along with my national Identity and control of our borders. If you knew anything about my past history I gaurentee you would not accuse of being a brit lover I'll say no more than that about it
You have my utmost respect deciphering, or even reading the Erms posts.
Kudos! 8)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 16, 2019, 10:22:20 PM
Kudos.....I hope that's fukin alcohol!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 17, 2019, 12:02:44 PM
John il ask you to please explain something to me , because I must be missing something. Now I already know how you feel about the rights, and wrongs , and merits of brexit, so no need to take over old ground. Here is what I'm asking. There are a huge amount of MPS in the UK who say they won't allow  Britian to leave without a deal right ? The EU say they will not reopen the withdrawal agreement, the only deal on offer is tessys tessys deal has been rejected 3 times , SO WHAT FUKKIN DEAL ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT ????
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 17, 2019, 01:03:08 PM
Its window dressing By Boris .What The Boobs Game is .If he can get a general election the EU will extend .Bo bo is hopeing that the Brexit party will get zero seats and he is right and then the Conservatives get a big Majority .If he can do that then he can say .People have voted for Brexit but not a Hard Brexit just look at the result the Brexit party got (zero) so he has a majority tells Reese Mogg to go fuck himself and the DUP can fuck off as well then he reintroduces Mays Deal .(Dont forget he actually voted for it )Thats the only deal the other option is Leave without a deal on Halloween .The Boob is playing both the EU and the Conservatives hardliners with Corbin going to play into his hands with a no confidence vote .

 Chances are the Remainer parties will get a majority after an election and agree on a Second Referendum as part of any agreement to form a government .My personal Opinion is When they voted for Brexit the world had order but Trumps election has queered the pitch Britain need a way out of this mess its the wrong time .The EU know the Brits are fucked so wont offer any way out other than crash or revoke .Either way the Brits lose .

My best guess general election Conservatives lose the Election even though they might be the largest party .Government of National Unity after Election with some Conservatives invited to be ministers and a second referendum early next year .A Crash out is suicide the IMF will be in by Easter if Britain Crashes out .The EU cannot give in if they do Italy ,France and others will act the bollox and the Euro collapsed .Its all about timing and the world is now on Trump Time .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 17, 2019, 03:50:12 PM
So basically what your saying is, they will now accept tessys deal, the same deal they rejected 3 times ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 17, 2019, 05:05:23 PM
So basically what your saying is, they will now accept tessys deal, the same deal they rejected 3 times ?


Yep its the only deal on offer or Crash out .Boris tried to raise the anti but the EU just called and raised .I think there will be a general election a few days before the end of October and depending on the result .Boris will look for possibly the deal to be shelved and kicked down the Road and some way found to do both the divorce and new deal on the same day .Or Remainers win and there is a second referendum.Crash out is suicide it could lead to the collapse of the UK economy and the £ to fail who in their right mind would loan money to or invest in the UK .The end result will be Norway + +-+ with the UK both in and out .I HOPE
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 17, 2019, 06:55:33 PM
The thing is though, there is ẞTILL a wealth of support for leave, and no gaurentee at all that the result would be overturned.even if the result WAS overturned , there is no way leave supporters would accept it, so where does that leave us ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 18, 2019, 06:20:04 PM
Barclay signs legislation in 'landmark' move to stop EU law applying after Brexit (https://news.sky.com/story/barclay-signs-legislation-in-landmark-move-to-stop-eu-law-applying-after-brexit-11788274)

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EU law will stop applying in Britain after 31 October, legislation signed into force today ensures.

Brexit Secretary Steve Barclay rubber-stamped the move to repeal the European Communities Act that automatically transfers laws made into Brussels into UK statute.  He hailed the moment as sending a "clear signal to the people of this country that there is no turning back".  But a legal expert downplayed the significance of the moment, saying if Brexit is delayed again then European law will continue to apply until the UK leaves the EU.

Mr Barclay was pictured posing for a photo showing the moment he signed the regulation into law.  "We are leaving the EU as promised on 31 October, whatever the circumstances - delivering on the instructions given to us in 2016," he said.

It had already been passed in parliament as part of legislation paving the way for Brexit in June last year.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 19, 2019, 11:35:55 AM
So basically what your saying is, they will now accept tessys deal, the same deal they rejected 3 times ?


Yep its the only deal on offer or Crash out .Boris tried to raise the anti but the EU just called and raised .I think there will be a general election a few days before the end of October and depending on the result .Boris will look for possibly the deal to be shelved and kicked down the Road and some way found to do both the divorce and new deal on the same day .Or Remainers win and there is a second referendum.Crash out is suicide it could lead to the collapse of the UK economy and the £ to fail who in their right mind would loan money to or invest in the UK .The end result will be Norway + +-+ with the UK both in and out .I HOPE

The non-existent can will be kicked several times between now and the next 10 yrs.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 19, 2019, 12:18:51 PM
Sutherland had to destroy his own country to further his loyalty to the E.U. We see Leo doing the same. If the Brits pull out chaotically............every penny you have will be seized.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 19, 2019, 12:30:12 PM
Sutherland had to destroy his own country to further his loyalty to the E.U. We see Leo doing the same. If the Brits pull out chaotically............every penny you have will be seized.
Would they be using the Army to enforce this ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 19, 2019, 12:31:55 PM
Worse, the banks and post offices etc.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 19, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
Sutherland was the king of all bleeding hearts. I remember writing to him to tell him he had a fukkin cheek telling the Irish workforce to welcome his beloved foreigners here so the could and take their jobs by working for half the minimum rate, while he enjoyed his SIX fukkin from both the state, and the EU and faced no threat to his livlehood nothing's fukkin changed . Ahearne, and Bruton and others are at it now
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 19, 2019, 03:24:50 PM
His 6 pensions I meant to say in the last post
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 20, 2019, 09:26:30 AM
Sutherland was the king of all bleeding hearts. I remember writing to him to tell him he had a fukkin cheek telling the Irish workforce to welcome his beloved foreigners here so the could and take their jobs by working for half the minimum rate, while he enjoyed his SIX fukkin from both the state, and the EU and faced no threat to his livlehood nothing's fukkin changed . Ahearne, and Bruton and others are at it now

Very clever man all the same...his legal expertise helped set up "Advocates Abroad", Dalyer. That's the crowd who advise "immigrants" what to say as they land on E.U. territory.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 20, 2019, 10:10:01 AM
For Dalyer.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D09oACxMek8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D09oACxMek8)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 22, 2019, 07:04:29 PM
Here John . Question for ya. Just suppose the backstop was scrapped how would that benifit the UK anyway ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 22, 2019, 09:46:49 PM
It wouldn't benefit them from what I can see but it would affect business in the North who actually want it but the DUP are determined not to represent their constituents.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 25, 2019, 12:36:34 PM
Well John, would you not agree that the cracks are starting to appear in the seemingly impregnable armour of the EU  ? There are clear signs that the hard line approach Boris is taking is starting to pay off. Already they have softened their stance Ireland will be the loosers in all of this. When the Brits go on to do very well outside the EU, and the EU is in the process of breaking up, we will have nowhere to turn to
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 25, 2019, 02:41:52 PM
Boris has no options .Its a hard exit or his own people will disown him.Britain leave on October unless Corbyn can overtrow Boris .The EU WILL NOT BUDGE they cant ,if they give in to The Crown its all over for the EU .Boris is going to have his bluff called .Trump is also going to have his trade war bluff called .My advice pay down as much debt as you can and if you need to borrow to stay in the game do it now .Things could get bad very fast .

 Your reading too much British Media .Boris is getting told to fuck off but the Brits are reporting it as some sort of victory for the Blond Lad .Watch the Exchange rate between the Euro and the £ before Brexit it was 1.40 now its 1.10 As I told you this is a Currency War its about the Survival of the Euro Currency which is actually worthless .You know my Favourite Barometer Deucha Bank use to be worth 268 euro a share now its worth less than 6 .Its more broke than Anglo the Germans all have their savings invested in this bank if it crashes like Anglo did the Germans dont have the coin to bail it out .That is why the EU MUST win a currency war with the £ and CANNOT bow to the Crown .Nothing to do with driving a Lorry load of Scallions and Cabbages over any imaginery border .FOLLOW THE MONEY Dalymount .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 25, 2019, 02:50:55 PM
Well I guess we can speculate all we like, but only time will tell how it will all pan out. I still believe there will be a compromise deal to allow both sides to save face
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 25, 2019, 03:15:44 PM
The only compromise is they extend for two or three years and try to do a trade deal and a withdrawl deal at the same time both would have to give a bit but the Brexiteers wont like that and if Boris agreed they would bring him down .An election with no Brexit would split the Conservatives fuck up Labour and after the election nothing would of changed .Boris has a plan Crash out destroy the Brexit party call a general election before the People realise what Brexit really means .Dragi is going to lob a handgrenade into the Mix before he goes by printing more useless Euros and the Brits will print more worthless pounds .The long term result will be hyper inflation its all monopoly money now .Quarter of a million for an x corpo house in Dublin 100 million £ for footballers .Our fools are depending on hyper inflation to wipe out the Dept thats why they dont give a fuck how much the Hospital or broadband costs .Downside of hyperinflation is your savings or pension will be wiped out .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 26, 2019, 05:25:58 AM
Johnson will call for an election before Oct 31st and the "remainers" will have been handed victory. The Brexit Party will ensure there's enough damage done to make a second ref swing the other way.............and then people will realise that Brexit was never going to be allowed happen. Farage and Boris, the Turk, are both in the pockets of the Marxist E.U. I had the misfortune to listen to a 20 something twat on his phone on Fri night telling his mate or bird not to overthink buying an apartment............presume he saw himself as an expert like so many before 2008............Another thick cunt who thinks history is for old fogeys....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 26, 2019, 07:04:08 AM
One fact that cannot be lost on people is the death of democracy. No matter what your feelings are regarding brexit, we can never sent the fact that democracy died on 29/032019 when the British people were due to leave the EU, and the obstructionists made sure it didn't happen. As far as in concerned politicians in Western Europe no longer respect democracy, and for that reason I stopped voting
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 10:25:09 AM
Democracy is only a fashion statement .Look at how Ireland voted for and against Divorce for and against abortion .Democracy is the equivlent of feeding sweets to children to make them do what you want .On Brexit our Tailors Dummy of a Taoiseach and his Bulletproof Backstop remark has come back to haunt the Intellectually retarded fuckwit .If he gives an Inch FF and SF will call him out on it and FG will be wiped out for years as they get the Blame for compromising the state even though it is probably the right thing to do .Veradkar is possibly the worst TD in the Dail to be leader at this moment Geno Kenny would do a better job or at least he couldnt do worst .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 26, 2019, 10:43:55 AM
I remember people saying FF would be wiped out after they bankrupt the country, yet within just 2 or 3 years they were back, and topped the polls at one stage
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 26, 2019, 10:57:46 AM
People have short memories...and a lack of candidates to vote for...won't be long before John is giving out about FF and the Greens again!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 11:00:29 AM
TARGET PRACTICE ..Despite a wealth of history suggesting that it’s a very bad idea, UK politicians have reportedly devised detailed plans to deploy English police officers in Northern Ireland in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
According to a report in The Sunday Times, the plans would first see approximately 300 Scottish police drafted in to support the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) as a preliminary step.

However, if tensions between the unionist and nationalist communities boil over or civil unrest erupts, officers from English forces will be deployed in the province.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 11:06:57 AM
People have short memories...and a lack of candidates to vote for...won't be long before John is giving out about FF and the Greens again!!

Irish elections are just Beauty Pagents no more relevent than the Rose of Tralee or Mary From Dunloe contests .This Banana runs itself .Since the Low life scumbag Tony Gregory sold his vote and elected Charlie as Taoiseach in return for a coat of paint for the doors in the flats .The Elites big business ,Banks and vested interests became aware that the cost of buying the government was no more than the cost of a few Gallons of Valspar and half a dozen paint brushes .If the Scumbag Gregory had not of supported Charlie things might of turned out different Charlie was the man empowered the Financial services and the banks to destroy this Banana .Its every man for himself time to GET A GUN .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 26, 2019, 11:11:28 AM
However, if tensions between the unionist and nationalist communities boil over or civil unrest erupts, officers from English forces will be deployed in the province.

If?....the British would sacrifice the GFA in a heartbeat...for the empire!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 26, 2019, 11:18:53 AM
Last time the Brits drafted in the Jocks there was fucking pandemonium....bitter little gimps with thick taches and prominent Adam's Apples picking off wee Tadghs.....Blackwatch.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 11:28:19 AM
So the British are willing to send British Troops on to the streets of britain toshoot british citizens .Ken was offering 100/1. If Brexit goes wrong British Troops will be on the streets of England as well .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 26, 2019, 11:30:19 AM
Better off sticking a monkey ew on Ireland to win the World Cup.........the hammering they got from Engerland was part of a bluff..... lol
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 11:45:24 AM
From the get goI have said there will be Civil unrest in Britain after Brexit Remainers will riot if it goes ahead and Brexiteers will riot if its cancelled the Canary in the coalmine is a terrorist attack before Brexitday or soon after .A lot of Countries around the world have old scores to settle with Britain and attacking them when they are most vunerable is good tactics .MI5 wouldnt have a clue who is in Britain and if there are sleeper cells .I see Britain has sent another Battleship to the Gulf If its an aircraft carrier that is provocation to some .Boris might like an incident to unite the Brits against the World A la Churchill .Britain is bolloxed Damned if the do and damned if they dont .If you stand on the Hill of Howth in the still of the night and listen carefully you can hear the swansong of the Empire .I love Irony Brexit on Halloween and destruction five days later on Guy Faulks night .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 26, 2019, 02:10:06 PM
Roll on brexit the Brits represent the only chance I have to see the total destruction of an instruction who stole my national Identity, my culture, my heritage, and above all the sovereignty of our country. They EU were ably assisted in this robbery by the bastards in  Leinster house
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 03:34:35 PM
The last time we were Sovreign Big Dommos ancester sold Mead to Brian Boru the night before the Battle of Clontarf where he got the bollox beat out of him by the Vikings .As he sat by the campfire Brian took out his Harp and knocked out a few Jigs and reels and his minstrels sang of Sovreignty and Victory over the Dane .The nearest we got to Sovreignty was 1922 since then we buried dead children in septic tanks rode kids robbed the state and bankrupted the kip.We need a benign dictator not a Sovreign state .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 26, 2019, 03:59:49 PM
John your hilarious. I love your posts
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 26, 2019, 04:33:43 PM
But he's being serious Dalyer... lol
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 26, 2019, 05:42:41 PM
I have an app on my phone called Flipboard - it's kinda a news aggregator.  It's funny reading how the different sides of the debate interpret events as they happen.  Merkel said her '30 days' thing and the newspapers went mad.  The Remain side said she was only humouring Boris while the Brexit side saw it as Europe crumbling because of Boris's 'oomph'!

This one from the Express is a cracker - Boris has cornered the EU with Trump's help - get behind the PM, writes PATRICK O'FLYNN (https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1170142/Boris-Johnson-news-brexit-latest-donald-trump-deal-Patrick-O-Flynn)

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Once bitten, twice shy as the old saying goes. But Boris Johnson is at the very least giving a convincing impersonation of a prime minster who really will lead the United Kingdom out of the European Union on October 31. And that he will do so without a Withdrawal Agreement if Brussels does not give way on issues, including the notorious Irish backstop, which locks us into EU control indefinitely.

In recent days he has given heartening signals that he understands that the wellbeing of our democracy depends on the referendum verdict being implemented by that date.  Preparations for a no-deal have been very publicly stepped up. Negotiations with the Trump administration over a UK-US trade deal are far more advanced than first realised.

President Trump has also been enlisted to cheerlead for Brexit, and the Prime Minister is said to have taken legal advice about suspending Parliament should MPs and pro-Remain Speaker John Bercow threaten to block our exit again.

<snip>

Mr Hammond is one of the worst offenders here, with rumours he is preparing to lead a “Remainer Alliance” of MPs in talking directly to Brussels about how to force the Prime Minister to accept yet another extension in the interminable Article 50 process. Many of us find this undermining of our national interest disgusting and outrageous.  One only hesitates to use the term “traitor” as, such is his monumental self-regard, Mr Hammond probably believes he is somehow helping his country.  The behaviour of the Labour leadership is hardly better, though it at least has the excuse that in the British system the job of the official Opposition is to oppose the Government.

<snip>
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 26, 2019, 05:52:13 PM
What makes these remainder cunts think their beloved EU would GRANT another extension ? Macron is said to have a pain in his bollox with it, the same as yet man giver hopstat
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 26, 2019, 06:11:51 PM
Just reading about that stupid bitch sinaed o Conner. I have never seen anyone like her for looking for notice. The silly cunt is a Muslim now, she doesn't know what to do for notice
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 26, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Be careful....she knows Mandinka!!

Shudaha,wudaha,cudaha.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 07:08:44 PM
The 30 day remark was Boris said there would be a two year negoaiting time after brexit to work out a deal that would prevent the use of the backstop .Merkel said that could be done in 30 days she is right all Boris has to do is accept the deal .Then get on with the trade deal .If they crash out they will still have to agree to a backstop and pony up the cash before the EU agree to talks .Boris is bolloxed nobody gives a flying fuck if the Brits go or stay .In fact France and Germany would love them to fuck off as the distribution of the UK Euro parliament seats would see France and Germany combined vote enough to get anything passed by qualified majority .

 Dollymount Can you imagine an Irish Sovreign government Brian Boru as King Cucullin as Taoiseach Galloping O Hogan as minister for finance Queen Maobh of Connaught as minister for agriculture ,The Artane boys Band all TDs and the Rocky Road as the National Anthem .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 26, 2019, 07:09:42 PM
What makes these remainder cunts think their beloved EU would GRANT another extension ? Macron is said to have a pain in his bollox with it, the same as yet man giver hopstat
Macron could be a very, very important man in the whole thing. 

He really wants a federal/united/centralised Europe and he thinks Britain has been holding him back.  The story goes that he's tempted just to tell the UK to fuk off so he can get on with centralising everything in Europe. 

Merkel wants us all to be happy bunnies and be nice to each other.  But Macron might just say 'fuk it' and say no to any compromise so Britain gets it's hard no-deal exit.


***
The Brazilian President just insulted Macron's wife on Facebook (what's the world coming to when politics happens on FB/Twitter!) so he might be looking for something/someone to punch  >:D
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 26, 2019, 07:12:48 PM
Donald Tusk* (this is the 3rd UK Prime Minister I've dealt with) also has a pain in his nuts about Brexit...


* President of the EU council - gets a seat at the G7 even though he doesn't run a country...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 07:27:27 PM
Macron has a hard on ambushed Trump with the Iranian at the G7 he wont want to give way to Boris .Its up to Corbyn now toorganize a power grab but My Gut feeling is a huge row in Parliament Boris might even propose a vote of Confidence in his own Government forcing Conservatives to bring down their own government then under the fixed parliament act Corbyn has 14 days to form a government or a general election .If Boris loses a Confidence vote he can suspend Parliament as there is no government for 14 days so no legislation can be passed to stop Brexit so dont be Surprised if first thing when the Parliament reconvienes Boris puts down a motion of confidence he might even tell his deputies to abstain so he loses .If he is serious about Brexit this is what he will do .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 26, 2019, 07:41:28 PM
Is it not the case that a group of remainders are collaborating to stop  a no deal brexit , and stop Boris from closing down parliment ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 26, 2019, 07:43:05 PM
@JohnM; Yeah, he has to time it right.  If there's an election, he'll be the de facto leader until the new team get elected.  If he times it right, he's be the decision-maker come 31 Oct...

dalymount talks about respecting the people's vote and all that.  Politics in the UK has never worked like that.  Interesting article from Chris Patten (of Hong Kong fame) recently...

Is Britain Becoming a Failed State? (https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/britain-brexit-failed-state-by-chris-patten-2019-08) (20 Aug 2019)

Abstract
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Failed states used to be largely the preserve of the developing world, where the institutions of democracy do not have deep roots. But given the extent to which the Brexit campaign has undermined Britain's institutions through lies, it is reasonable to worry that the country will soon come to resemble a tinpot dictatorship.

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Britain’s system of government, much praised in the past, is based on parliamentary democracy and the institutions of pluralism that one would associate with an open society.

Voters elect individual members of parliament, who owe their constituents their best judgment about how to negotiate the predicaments of politics. MPs are not required to do what they are told by an alleged popular will – a system much favored by despots and demagogues. Instead, they are part of a system that owes much to the conservative political philosopher Edmund Burke, not to the French writer Jean-Jacques Rousseau. We have always preferred caution, compromise, and evolution to disruption and appeals to fleeting public passions.

The parties to which most MPs belong represent different strands of opinion. Yet by and large, debates have usually assumed a strong relationship between evidence and assertion. Facts might be interpreted in different ways, but they were not simply denied because they contradicted an ideological assertion. Dogmatism is a bad bedfellow to democracy. Experts can be challenged, of course, but until now, expertise was never seen as something the ruling establishment would use to bamboozle and obfuscate in pursuit of its aims.

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Moreover, the government is scheming to win an election, yet to be announced, on the basis of a “people versus the politicians” campaign. Those who oppose crashing out of the EU without a deal are to be branded as opponents of popular sovereignty. So much for parliamentary democracy.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 07:47:13 PM
Is it not the case that a group of remainders are collaborating to stop  a no deal brexit , and stop Boris from closing down parliment ?

Boris can derail that by doing what I suggested Propose a motion of confidence in his own government .If he loses then Corbyn gets a chance to form a government if he wins then there cannot be another vote of confidence for a year .If he wins he says that that is a vote for his Brexit policy and Suspends Parliament .He will remain Prime Minister for the 14 days Parliament tries to set up a new government and one of his remaining powers is to pick the date for the General election
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 26, 2019, 07:57:07 PM
Small point: The 1yr limit on votes of confidence is an internal Conservative party thing, not Parliament.

But, yeah, if he times it right, he'll be PM/decision-maker when 31 Oct rolls around...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 08:00:50 PM
Personally I think our Fucktard Taoiseach has created a Problem by his Amateur Political Fuckology .He should of sat on the sifelines Confirmed he trusted the EU and the UK to come to an amacable arrangement that Ireland could agree on but in stead he was grandstanding with his betters and they played him like a two quid rent boy .If the EU sells him out his career is over and some Republicans might think more than that should be over .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 08:02:58 PM
Small point: The 1yr limit on votes of confidence is an internal Conservative party thing, not Parliament.

But, yeah, if he times it right, he'll be PM/decision-maker when 31 Oct rolls around...

The only danger to Boris comes from his own party .I cant see the Speaker allowing another vote of confidence before the end of October .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 08:06:11 PM
Guy Faulks Night 5th November I expect the NF or other Nationalist Groups to run amok burning and looting if Brexit is posponed and even if they get Brexit they will Riot and Loot to get the Christmas presents in before the recession .Britain is Broken .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 08:18:59 PM
IFFFFFFF Boris is serious about Brexit then he willpropose a vote of confidence first thing the Parliament reopens to prevent the Parliament taking control of the order paper and changing the law and removing the October 31st exit date and instructing Boris to extend Article 50 .I dont know why they would bother as the EU say they wont renegoaite and Boris says no backstop .Plus that would inflame the Brexiteers and all hell will kick off .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 26, 2019, 08:19:44 PM
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@JohnM: we're cross-posting and writing at the same time!  So, I'll leave it there and go and watch some TV...

The UK doesn't have a constitution and Parliament is governed by obscure rules & regulations.  They are mostly Oxbridge gobshites used to debating chambers and taking shite at dinner parties.  If the 'rebels' want to find a way, they'll maybe find a line in a paragraph from some obscure 1842 parliamentary debate that gives them the go-ahead.

But I think the ball is in BJ's court.  The British English, lied to by the British tabloid press, seem to want to jump off the cliff so they can get rid of 'dem foreigners' & restore the white cliffs of Dover to the right shade of white   ::fds


The funny thing is I was watching BBC news this morning and they were having a 'farming week'.  They interviewed a farmer who grows strawberries.  He was talking up his superior British strawberries and how the British loved British strawberries.  He was worried that after Brexit, the 30,0000 foreigners needed to pick them (nationwide) wouldn't be allowed in to pick them.  Nobody noticed the irony!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 26, 2019, 08:30:34 PM
Watty there is no make nor shape to brexit other than a land grab and assett strip by the elites and aristos who want to regain their properties taken by governments in death duty .Its actually a Coup and the unemployed wasters and wage slaves have been encouraged to help by voting for it .From this side of the Irish Sea its like watching a Country dieing from a self inflicted wound refusing to call the doctor for help .The problem is the disease is contagious they are going to infect us too.Pago sends the budget to Brussells in a week or two for the once over interesting to see how much more he will take from workers to pay dole for all the people who lose their jobs post brexit .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 26, 2019, 09:56:31 PM
Watty it's just like here. If they pay the correct rate of pay, the Brits will pick the strawberries. It's the same here a blind is turned to the fact that fukkin foreigners are grossly undercutting the minimum rate of pay, and this is being done with the approval of both the trade union movement, and the government
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 27, 2019, 02:01:44 PM
Hay John . I always thought the speaker of the house was supposed to be impartial ? That fukkers barcode is anything but impartial , he is a remainder to his core and he lets you know also
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 27, 2019, 02:06:45 PM
Dalymount for the first time in three years I havent any idea how this is going to play out .There is all sorts of treachery and backstabbing anf treason and all sorts if the Brits are not carefull they might get mistaken for members of the Dail .I still think Guy Faulks night in Britain its all going to kick off .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 27, 2019, 04:29:40 PM
@ DALYMOUNT give this a read .What a fucking muppett not only did she give poxy advice about swings to her mate but she lives in La La land .....https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/cabinet-minister-claims-boris-johnson-could-still-back-brexit-deal-at-the-last-minute-38441110.html (https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/cabinet-minister-claims-boris-johnson-could-still-back-brexit-deal-at-the-last-minute-38441110.html)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 27, 2019, 04:49:18 PM
Ís that woman crazy or what ? If Boris was to do that , he would be finished instently along with the Tories. How does she come to such a ludicrous conclusion. Wishful thinking on her part methinks
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 27, 2019, 05:15:39 PM
Ís that woman crazy or what ? If Boris was to do that , he would be finished instently along with the Tories. How does she come to such a ludicrous conclusion. Wishful thinking on her part methinks

You want to know why this country is fucked .She is a government minister ,if thats the best we have ??????
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 27, 2019, 05:25:07 PM
Fianna Fáil says it won't bring down the government over the broadband plan https://jrnl.ie/4783003


That's why this country is fuked!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on August 27, 2019, 05:41:07 PM
Or what about a Minister for Transport who poses beside an EV charging point that isn't connected to the electricity  oops

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/who-said-theres-a-shortage-shane-ross-called-out-for-twitter-gaffe-after-posing-up-with-electric-car-charger-38436440.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/who-said-theres-a-shortage-shane-ross-called-out-for-twitter-gaffe-after-posing-up-with-electric-car-charger-38436440.html)

At least he knew which was the front end of the car, that's something?

(https://cdn-02.independent.ie/incoming/article38436917.ece/fa9c7/BINARY/Capture22.jpg)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 27, 2019, 05:44:01 PM
Fianna Fáil says it won't bring down the government over the broadband plan https://jrnl.ie/4783003


That's why this country is fuked!!


They know Brexit will fuck us .Blame FG for playing it wrong pointing at the Gay Foreigners Ego trip.Win a majority .They need to hold on tillat least March next year .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on August 28, 2019, 02:13:46 AM
It would seem like a No Deal is most likely and a hard border put in place.
The Nordie 'RA' heads are going to have a Field day (like they needed an excuse)
to bomb and shoot at everything and anything with a British symbol on it.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on August 28, 2019, 03:14:13 AM
I don't know how you lads keep on top of all this Brexit bollocks.
it makes me sick to my stomach listening to politicians.
and the pissy cunty jibe slinging childish shit stirring drama out of the mouths of the nordie gangs makes me want to strangle someone.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 10:48:32 AM
Brexit is Simple .The EU is trading Insolvent with 27 selfserving fucktards all letting on they are adults .The Brits know its only a matter of time before it crashes and they want off the bus before the crash .Italy the 3rd biggest economy in the EU is 2.4 TRILLION in debt with 28% youth unemployment .You dont need a  degree  in Economics to work out if the young people are not working who is going to pay off the debt or future pensions .Europes top Bank Deuscha Bank is actually more broke than ANGLO but they are letting on everything is grand .Brits see the writing on the wall .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 11:19:20 AM
CROMWELL Johnston just shut down Parliament .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 28, 2019, 11:29:39 AM
Brexit is Simple .The EU is trading Insolvent with 27 selfserving fucktards all letting on they are adults .The Brits know its only a matter of time before it crashes and they want off the bus before the crash .Italy the 3rd biggest economy in the EU is 2.4 TRILLION in debt with 28% youth unemployment .You dont need a  degree  in Economics to work out if the young people are not working who is going to pay off the debt or future pensions .Europes top Bank Deuscha Bank is actually more broke than ANGLO but they are letting on everything is grand .Brits see the writing on the wall .

Transport millions of young people from Africa and Asia and assign them work paying minimum wage and you nail many issues on the head. Land in Africa can be harvested 3 times a yr as opposed to annually in Europe and most of America....free up the land and Monsanto and other conglomerates can make trillions in a matter of months.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 28, 2019, 11:35:49 AM
I'm gonna wait till the end then google the summary.I think the talk about Brexit is doing more damage to confidence and our economy than the consequences of Brexit ever wil.Yis are mental.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 28, 2019, 11:38:20 AM
My Predication it will all OK, all this shite going on about Brexit will blow over.

Lets wait and see if my prediction comes good !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 11:45:36 AM
I'm gonna wait till the end then google the summary.I think the talk about Brexit is doing more damage to confidence and our economy than the consequences of Brexit ever wil.Yis are mental.

Irish Government say it will reduce GDP by 1.2% I done back of envelope stuff and say nearer 10% .We are forcasting Growth of 4% next year that will dissapear that added to the governments estimate is 5.2% next year the impact on tax losses of a contraction will lead to further contraction.We were cajoled into voting for the Fiscal treaty that means we cannot borrow to spend our way out of the DEPRESSION that will follow .We in reality are a province of the UK we mimic their social and economic policies we are a vassal of the UK that will be jetisoned by both the EU and UK .We are going to get our arse holes handed to us .Watch the Cranes dissapearing from the skyline around Dublin as a borometer of the Depression that awaits .Then add in any recession in the EU will make other countries hungry for their tax dollars and our low corporate tax rates come under attack .A perfect storm .The Brits waited years to retaliate for us breaking up the Commonwealth they will truly fuck us up if they crash out .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 11:50:02 AM
My Predication it will all OK, all this shite going on about Brexit will blow over.

Lets wait and see if my prediction comes good !

Have a read of the Newspapers .Irish Landlords are looking to sell of thousands of appartments .Why would you sell off a cash stream unless you expect the worst Cashflow is king for any business .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 28, 2019, 11:53:22 AM
The old Chivers base in Coolock......buy to rent scheme owned by whom?... rofl Anyways, the really mental cunts are those queuing up to get their little boys vaccinated against cervical cancer.....now they are really fucking ill!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 11:56:08 AM
The old Chivers base in Coolock......buy to rent scheme owned by whom?... rofl Anyways, the really mental cunts are those queuing up to get their little boys vaccinated against cervical cancer.....now they are really fucking ill!

Joey Meng would be proud
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 11:57:50 AM
JESUS WEPT .The BBc are carrying out an interview with a remain MP and cut him off to give out the Weather Report .PRIORITIES !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 28, 2019, 11:58:48 AM
Caan't wait to see the morons eating their own kids to stay alive....biggest land and asset grab in the history of this kip and the social justice mongs think we should be sending out more boats to rescue the 6 foot kids with Nikes and I-Phones in the Med....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 12:03:14 PM
Cant wait to Hear Reese Mogg proposing Progroation and Burkow replying .I hope they sub title the whole thing so the English understand what the English are saying in Parliament .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 12:25:48 PM
Could Johnstone do the dirty ?Could he wait till late October and put Mays deal to Parliament AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN and then its accept it or crash out .Labour would have to support it .That would knock the bollox out of Labours election prospects .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 28, 2019, 12:51:13 PM
May quoted this to Johnson long before Cameron had shafted her in Westminster.....her husband is a very wealthy man who operates by this principle....


"Care about what other people think and you will always be their prisoner." -      Lao Tzu, Parnell St, Dublin 1....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 01:00:41 PM
Its up to the remainers now to vote no confidence next Tuesday .I wonder if Covney and Leo have stopped crying yet .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 28, 2019, 01:23:59 PM
How many people remember it was Leo who labelled Irish Taximen as "inherently racist"?.......he was the then Minister for Transport.....the green light brigade campaign was in its infancy......you see, you must arm yourself with words and knowledge to beat an E.U. drone.....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 28, 2019, 01:27:37 PM
Big game going on lads......the PSV test is easy......
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 02:06:20 PM
Game Theory V fundamentals and Logic .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 28, 2019, 02:13:20 PM
Your quite right , he did label is racists and implied that the use of a green light on the car roof was a covert signal to the public that the  approaching driver was Irish. I remained him that at that particular time, Dunnes stores were running an ad campaign stating the difference is were Irish. Also Pamela Scott group of shops had a campaign stating we are Irish and our products are superior infact the government themselves ran a campaign stating we should buy Irish, for the presiveation of Irish jobs. To this day you can STILL see signs around the place saying buy Irish, support Irish jobs
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 28, 2019, 02:19:31 PM
Dalyer, there's times I find John M's treatises very tiring....you should read more of them..........he nails it...then loses it....then nails it again...only to lose it after trying to find the original docket.....If Brexit happens in any shape, way or form, I will stick 2 molasses encased pancakes up my narrow rectum in front of Norris's gaff on Nth Great George's St...on Oct 31st...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 02:24:22 PM
As of now I think Boris is playing for time .Corbyn has to go for a no confidence vote next tuesday and hope for an election before 31st .Boris fights for brexit Labour for remain SF for Nothing DUP for What About Ya .My best GUESS is they leave 31st with No Deal .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 28, 2019, 02:25:07 PM
WHY WOULD THEY STAY ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 28, 2019, 03:13:34 PM
This is all getting very repetitive and boring, I wish admin would ban the B word
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 28, 2019, 03:42:35 PM
Indeed STC....would rather we talked about Fanda!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 28, 2019, 04:46:27 PM
Indeed STC....would rather we talked about Fanda!!
Who the fcuk is Fanda ?

Did you mean Panda or Fanta ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on August 28, 2019, 09:13:04 PM
Fanda;
The fourth meal of the day proceeding dinner and preceding lastimus. Usually takes place between 10pm and midnight.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 28, 2019, 09:51:16 PM
Fanda;
The fourth meal of the day proceeding dinner and preceding lastimus. Usually takes place between 10pm and midnight.

Ah so its a sexual thing you do late at nite then with your burd
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on August 28, 2019, 10:35:07 PM
No, it's a eating thing that Fat Fookin Taxi drivers do late at night !

Lastimus;
The final meal of the day (but technically the first since its after midnight). Proceeding fanda and preceding the next breakfast. Usually takes place between 2 and 4 am.


Who de Fook could eat 5 meals a day ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Vikkiz on August 28, 2019, 10:35:41 PM
Fanda;
The fourth meal of the day proceeding dinner and preceding lastimus. Usually takes place between 10pm and midnight.

Ah so its a sexual thing you do late at nite then with your burd
Laffin
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on August 28, 2019, 10:45:22 PM
Fanda;
The fourth meal of the day proceeding dinner and preceding lastimus. Usually takes place between 10pm and midnight.

Ah so its a sexual thing you do late at nite then with your burd
Laffin
Cunnilingus on a full stomach, Whhoooaa ! No Thanks !
I'd go down the 'Space Docking' route First !!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 29, 2019, 09:50:22 AM
Its up to the remainers now to vote no confidence next Tuesday .I wonder if Covney and Leo have stopped crying yet .

Rees-Mogg wiped all their brows with his 2 minute soliloquy on Youtube..........been 80 yrs since Parliament sat in late Sept.............the E.U. council is not meeting until mid Oct.....what's the issue?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 29, 2019, 10:00:13 AM
Think Boris has played a blinder .The remoaners vote no confidence .Then Corbyn has 14 doys to form a government .OH how can he Parliament is suspended !.Boris then calls an election for mid October .Now the Game Changer .Will the Brexit party oppose the Tories or will they give Boris a free kick at winning seats and delivering Brexit or stand and split the vote .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 29, 2019, 10:44:40 AM
Boris' favourite general........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_von_Moltke_the_Elder
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 29, 2019, 11:49:37 AM
Nigel has already said if Boris does the bizo he will back him to the hilt, but if he does not, then the brexit party will contest every seat in the country
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 29, 2019, 12:04:26 PM
Nigel has already said if Boris does the bizo he will back him to the hilt, but if he does not, then the brexit party will contest every seat in the country

Would you trust Boris .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 29, 2019, 12:25:04 PM
Patience is required and a bit of common sense....worth a listen as to how real politics works c/o JFK....


https://youtu.be/zdMbmdFOvTs
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 29, 2019, 01:17:28 PM
Well it's not really a matter of trust John, it's straight forward . If Boris does not deliver, then the brexit party mobilize the troops, if he does deliver, then job done. I don't really know what the significance of the latest move by Boris to suspend parliment is though, does this mean brexit is more, or less likely to happen not withstanding the fact that there will be mass protest
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 29, 2019, 01:32:52 PM
Well it's not really a matter of trust John, it's straight forward . If Boris does not deliver, then the brexit party mobilize the troops, if he does deliver, then job done. I don't really know what the significance of the latest move by Boris to suspend parliment is though, does this mean brexit is more, or less likely to happen not withstanding the fact that there will be mass protest

Nobody knows .Boris might be for real and jump or he might wait until the last minute and give Parliament two options Accept Mays Deal or nothing .Who knows but remember Boris DID vote for Mays Deal .If they go with Mays deal then he goes for an election saying he delivered Brexit .The Labour party would need to back Mays deal so they couldnt complain but Boris could say Mays Deal was al lParliament would support .The Brexiteers would rebel Brexit Party would have to Accept they got Brexit Jock Independents would be happy to remain .Boris might still get a majority .Logic says they cant go without a deal ,I hope they dont go at all if they do we are fucked .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 29, 2019, 01:38:12 PM
Beware the yr's ending in 9....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 29, 2019, 01:39:09 PM
Probably go ahead without a deal...which is what Boris wants...no time for any sort of debate...which I think would just end with nothing anyway.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 29, 2019, 01:49:43 PM
If you could work out what the stroke was you might be able to guess if they go or not .Its illogical .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 29, 2019, 02:00:04 PM
Well I think they will go, because to do otherwise would be a complete betrayal of democracy. Although that has already happened because they didn't go on 29,03,2019 which was the original datefor leaving
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on August 29, 2019, 02:04:20 PM
Well I think they will go, because to do otherwise would be a complete betrayal of democracy. Although that has already happened because they didn't go on 29,03,2019 which was the original datefor leaving

Three years after the initial vote,and they're still in the club.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 29, 2019, 02:09:40 PM
EU might just say Fuck you and let them go .It might not be Britains decision to make anymore .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 29, 2019, 02:20:36 PM
I don't care whether the EU tell them to fukk off or not as long as brexit happens
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 29, 2019, 10:23:33 PM
Do ya know what's gas. The remain crowd are up in arms over Boris move to suspend parliment. The grounds they are using is, that what he is doing is undemocratic. That's a fukkin laugh when you consider the people of the UK voted to leave, and these remain cunts done everything in their power to stop it . And then they say Boris does not respect democracy ??? What a fukkin joke
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 30, 2019, 08:20:27 AM
Ireland's supermarket shelves could start to run bare within two days of a hard Brexit, the head of the Freight Transport Association of Ireland warned yesterday.

General manager Aidan Flynn appealed for haulage firms to take immediate steps to improve supply chains as the UK hurtles towards crashing out of the EU with no deal.

“Ireland’s retail shops have no space to stockpile anything,” he told the Irish Independent.

“They must be fed by distribution centres every day – and the UK is the major distribution hub for Ireland.

“Stores here have no space to stockpile anything, not even two days of products. They are seriously constrained.

“Everything will take days longer. And in the event of a no deal, there’s going to be absolute chaos for months.”

Mr Flynn said retailers currently order goods from UK warehouses and expect the products to arrive by Irish Sea ferry and truck within 24 hours. But a no-deal Brexit would make such speed legally and logistically impossible.

Mr Flynn said the era of seamless next-day imports under EU rules had allowed stores over the past decade to convert underused storage space to new retail facilities such as bakery counters.

A hard Brexit, he said, would raise the question of how Ireland could bake bread at all.

"We don't mill most of our flour in Ireland. It just shows how reliant we are on the UK for our food," he said. While the answer in part would be stockpiling, Mr Flynn said warehousing was scarce.

"Cold storage and chilled warehousing is in particularly short supply," he said. "There certainly isn't enough available to stockpile levels we would need to cope."

Rental costs for storage had climbed at least 15pc in the past year. "The price of existing warehouse space will rocket up and that ultimately will pass to the consumer.

"The industry now is reliant on too few distribution centres," he said, suggesting supermarket giants with huge hubs remain vulnerable to disjointed planning among their thousands of subcontractors.

Several supermarkets declined to comment. But German retailer Lidl told the Irish Independent it is holding regular Brexit workshops with suppliers, beefing up its local supply contracts to minimise dependence on UK producers and building a 54,000 sq m distribution centre in Newbridge, Co Kildare, due to open in November.

Lidl spokeswoman Claire Moran said Irish-made goods already represented more than half of Lidl's offering. "While some of our produce would currently come through the UK land bridge, we have put alternative logistical arrangements in place to maintain the supply of these goods. We therefore do not anticipate any shortages," she said.

Fourth-fifths of Ireland's truckers - around 150,000 drivers - use the UK as a "land bridge", cutting by half the time it takes by ferry.

Mr Flynn said Ireland needed to work with EU colleagues to forge new direct services linking Dublin, Cork and Rosslare with the French ports of Le Havre and Calais, Zeebrugge in Belgium and Rotterdam in the Netherlands.

Journeys by ferry from Rotterdam or Zeebrugge would take 40 hours. "You cannot send a driver on a ferry of that duration," he said. "It's only an option for unaccompanied containers. You'd be lengthening the supply chain and challenging hauliers' jobs."

FTA Ireland estimates Brexit preparation has helped to drive up haulage firms' costs by 6.5pc in the past year.

"Time is money," Mr Flynn said. "The reality of Brexit, with all these new processes and requirements, is it is going to take massive time to get people up to speed and become efficient again."
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 30, 2019, 08:28:51 AM
Reality of the situation will dawn on Mick when it's all too late. Watch the farmers at the mo...........they're getting info the ordinary 5 8" is not. The Chinese delegation visiting the meat processing plants aren't interested in Fillet, Sirloin or Ribeye...

If Brexit occurs, and I'm unsure as to how it can considering the Blair stroke with the constitution...if it does, then we're going to have to withdraw post-haste. Meanwhile, Harris is threatening parents who want a debate on the safety of vaccinations with "domestic terrorist" bullshit.....we live in a dangerous little corner here at the mo.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 30, 2019, 08:58:30 AM
@Lip the Brexit debate on this forum is probably the best on the web .Dalymount puts forward his point while others put forward theres ,Unlike our fucking waster led government who are actually on holiday at the moment and seem more concerned about if some Girl on a swing should get another shot at sticking her snout in the through of Plenty on Kildare Street .What Our lot dont get about Brexit is it is Identity Politics as championed by Dalymount The Brits just want to be British not Eurobrits and are willing to fight for it .Brexit is just modern identity Warfare ,we see it in Hong Kong,America .Its already sorted in Japan,China ,Russia .India took back control of Kashmere all about identity in a multicultural world .Italy were subdued during the week but for how long ?We are in Dangerous times Lip and Vacines,Water tax ,property tax ID cards open borders .Single currencies all pointing twords a federal State of Europe lead from the center .The Euro federalists want the Brits out but they also want them crushed .Trumps America First and Chinas soi big we can swallow you approach has pushed Federal Europe a step closer .I notice now they are pushing for a Measles vacsine as well .Article in todays paper says they knew the Swine Flu Vaxine was corrupted before Harney inoculated us all .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 30, 2019, 09:03:03 AM
A simple debate can't harm anyone...except those who have much to lose?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 30, 2019, 09:03:32 AM
The Government apparently proceeded with the roll-out of a €120m swine flu vaccine in 2009 despite being notified of suspected adverse reactions in Sweden.

This is according to allegations made in a landmark case to open before the High Court on October 8.

A young woman, Aoife Bennett, will seek damages from the State and drug giant GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) over contracting the debilitating sleep illness narcolepsy after receiving the swine flu vaccine Pandemrix. A further 80 cases are pending.

The vaccine was rushed into service over fears in 2009 of a swine flu pandemic.

It had not fully completed clinical trials and, to get it into service, the Government agreed to indemnify GSK.

The national immunisation programme began on November 19, 2009.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 30, 2019, 09:11:03 AM
Watch the next stroke............suspension of all benefits if kid not vaccinated........and as in California.......no school places if unvaccinated.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 30, 2019, 09:17:12 AM
Watch the next stroke............suspension of all benefits if kid not vaccinated........and as in California.......no school places if unvaccinated.

Probably need to get your passport stamped saying what Vacs you have .We might escape it but the younger generation will be chip and pinned .Might be with your Iris or even a chip at birth stick it in side you before they tie the Knot .Navel recognition chip .The More im watching Brexit unfold the more im beginning to believe anything is impossible or possible depending on the predestined result .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 30, 2019, 09:18:48 AM
Orwell didn't lick it off the stones..........he was a student of Huxley's in Eton...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 30, 2019, 09:26:23 AM
See Brit xpats in Europe now concerned about their pensions and medical cover after Brexit .I was in Tenerife last year a lot of them voted leave what did they expect .I still dont think Irish people realise the impact of Brexit if or when it happens .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 30, 2019, 09:31:22 AM
The older guys do..they saw it all before but can't admit it for fear of being branded a lunatic....anyone challenging the narrative is deemed a bigot of some sort...bottom line is the cute hoor, Dev, knew we had to maintain some allegiance to the Brits if we were ever to continue at all as a nation. Leo and Dizzee Pascal see Karl Marx's federal europe as the solution to all ills......
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 30, 2019, 11:53:58 AM
Look on the brightthere is a lot in brexit for me , maybe not for you though. Benefits for me are maybe all these fukkin nigg. ers , Muslims Indians Chinese, etc etc will fukk off back to where they came from. Our national Identity will be restored to a large extent, the sovereignty of our country will be returned Ebbs Kelly Kearns etc etc will be out of business because they will have no drivers . All I can see is benefits from brexit. And best of all I won't have to listen to the fukkin bleeding hearts brigade pleeding the case for migrants
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on August 30, 2019, 12:01:56 PM
Look on the brightthere is a lot in brexit for me , maybe not for you though. Benefits for me are maybe all these fukkin nigg. ers , Muslims Indians Chinese, etc etc will fukk off back to where they came from. Our national Identity will be restored to a large extent, the sovereignty of our country will be returned Ebbs Kelly Kearns etc etc will be out of business because they will have no drivers . All I can see is benefits from brexit. And best of all I won't have to listen to the fukkin bleeding hearts brigade pleeding the case for migrants
Sooner the better so as we can close this topic
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 30, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
Look on the brightthere is a lot in brexit for me , maybe not for you though. Benefits for me are maybe all these fukkin nigg. ers , Muslims Indians Chinese, etc etc will fukk off back to where they came from. Our national Identity will be restored to a large extent, the sovereignty of our country will be returned Ebbs Kelly Kearns etc etc will be out of business because they will have no drivers . All I can see is benefits from brexit. And best of all I won't have to listen to the fukkin bleeding hearts brigade pleeding the case for migrants
You couldnr be more wrong .Ireland because of old treaties between Britain and Ireland will become the gateway to gaining entry into the UK by means of an Irish passport .Expect up to a million more colonials moving to Ireland to get Irish passports so they can live in the UK ..The solution to Brexit is we go with them but get Britain to pay off most of our National debt .That way we can survive the exodus of FDIs and in time we benifit from whatever deal Britain do to grow our economy .Most migrant workers will leave as the jobs go freeing up hospitals,houses ,schools for those that remain .We are probably insolvent any way so clearing off the national debt gives us a second chance at getting it right .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 30, 2019, 12:06:38 PM
Why on earth would they leave Daly?Some have been in the Uk since they were born.Have you noticed the amount of well-spoken foreign looking folks that are in politics in the UK.Every day there's someone of Indian an Pakistani origin who sound like one of the royal family talking about the brexit shite.Even the presenters have brown skin on every channel.They're as English as the Queen.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 30, 2019, 12:11:06 PM
Look on the brightthere is a lot in brexit for me , maybe not for you though. Benefits for me are maybe all these fukkin nigg. ers , Muslims Indians Chinese, etc etc will fukk off back to where they came from. Our national Identity will be restored to a large extent, the sovereignty of our country will be returned Ebbs Kelly Kearns etc etc will be out of business because they will have no drivers . All I can see is benefits from brexit. And best of all I won't have to listen to the fukkin bleeding hearts brigade pleeding the case for migrants

Dalyer, you're falling into traps that could walk you into it.........thousands of people from the Congo ended up in San Antonio, Texas recently....they could have only have crossed from the Rio Grande.....the only thing to ask is Who Benefits from all this....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 30, 2019, 12:14:52 PM
MFH I'm talking about them fukking off out of HERE , not the UK
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 30, 2019, 12:15:54 PM
@ Dollymount have you not worked this out .At the Moment if you hold an EU passport you can work and live in the UK after Brexit who knows ?but if you hold an Irish passport you can live and work in the UK after Brexit so how many EU passport holders do you think will come live and work here and apply for Irish citizenship ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 30, 2019, 12:19:58 PM
Ebola......watch out U.S.A...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 30, 2019, 12:20:24 PM
In not at all sure your right about that, though I wouldn't argue with you on that
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 30, 2019, 12:22:05 PM
1 in 6 kids dies in the Congo from big Pharma vaccine testing.....they're going to wipe us out by hook or by crook without dropping one fucking bomb, Dalyer...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 30, 2019, 12:37:57 PM
Lippy my reply was in response to John in not at all sure that his assertion that Irish passport holders can go and work in the UK after brexit . He may be right, but I don't know
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 30, 2019, 12:42:31 PM
Drop into the driving licence centre in Omni and you'll be surrounded by foreign looking lads applying for driving licences.All brexit related.If anything we will have many more immigrants by the time Brexit is finalised.We're considered to be immigrant-friendly compared to the UK.Gonna be interesting.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 30, 2019, 12:50:24 PM
Lippy my reply was in response to John in not at all sure that his assertion that Irish passport holders can go and work in the UK after brexit . He may be right, but I don't know

What do you think the backstop is about .Freedomof Movement for Irish passport holders between Britain and Ireland i.If you hold an Irish Passport you can live or work in the UK you always could since the formation of the state as everybody born in Ireland Pre Independence was a British Subject .Freedom of movement means freedom to workso if Im a trader can I move my goods freely ?This is why they say there cannot be checks on the border it interfears with my freedom of movement guarenteed in the Good Friday agreement .You might see two lanes of traffic at the border one for Uk and Irish citizens with free flow and others having to show a passport .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 30, 2019, 01:26:56 PM
Cannot verify this as a fact but it is an assertion............Shatter preempted Romania and other former commie Eastern Bloc countries joining of the E.U. in 2011 by allowing them apply for Irish nationality a full 18 months before the Brits had to do likewise....they had not even been ratified as de facto E.U. members by Strasbourg...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 30, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
Our cunt politicians are in the convention center every other day handing out citizenship like confettie. What I'd like to know is , when the recession hits (and it surely will) where are they going to get some money to pay all these fukkin foreigners ???
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 31, 2019, 10:22:43 AM
Rioting in Britain .....https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-49526876 (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-49526876)  .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 31, 2019, 11:12:42 AM
Riots in Glasgow because the shitheads held an Irish Unity parade....and that's the day before an Old Firm game at Ibrox, John....and, lest we forget the cunts will all be shouting for Kerry too!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 31, 2019, 11:47:55 AM
Riots in Glasgow because the shitheads held an Irish Unity parade....and that's the day before an Old Firm game at Ibrox, John....and, lest we forget the cunts will all be shouting for Kerry too!

As I posted earlier in this tread .There are a lot of nations who have scores to settle with GB .Dark shadows over India trying to Ethnically cleanse India of Muslims .That could also play out on the streets on the Midlands .Paddy and the Prods up North .Chavs v Police in London .Liverpool is fairly sectarian as well .Boris is going to get a Slap in the mouth from Brussells .Macron is going to say October 31st is not a hard date and he will offer Britain an open Ended time to do a deal .Then Boris has to shit or get off the pot .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 31, 2019, 11:51:20 AM
You omit from whence Boris came......he is farquing aristocracy mate...the Ottomans still have one foot in the corridors of E.U. power.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 31, 2019, 12:06:34 PM
I thought Boris was going nuclear and crashing out but that makes no sence .So any deal is better than no deal .If he gets anything he cas pass off as a victory I think he will go for it .Events could overtake Brexit if China start shooting .Britain are guardiand of the two systems  solution .If they fail to act on Chineae agression their international reputation hits the floor so why not jetison the Good Friday as well .And it now looks like the oil ship they released is heading for Syria Donny T wont like that and will look for Brit cover to bomb fuck out Iran .Dangerous times Lip .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on August 31, 2019, 12:09:01 PM
Only one country we should all be monitoring...it is in the middle east and is the same size as New Jersey....it wields extraordinary powers in every organised n.g.o. and every parliament....if these psychos keep prodding the Persians...we have a problem.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 31, 2019, 12:16:05 PM
The latest on the oil ship is its headed for Syria .Israelmight decide to take it out then the Ayotollas will get quite iritated .Donny Ts permanent government are pulling the strings .Too many mad men in power or shadow power .America love a war president so if Donny looks in danger of losing he might decide to attack somebody /anybody .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on August 31, 2019, 12:18:20 PM
Dont forget AfD in Germany they go to the polls tomorrow .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 31, 2019, 01:33:21 PM
Up the AFD
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on August 31, 2019, 05:03:15 PM
The latest on the oil ship is its headed for Syria .Israelmight decide to take it out then the Ayotollas will get quite iritated .Donny Ts permanent government are pulling the strings .Too many mad men in power or shadow power .America love a war president so if Donny looks in danger of losing he might decide to attack somebody /anybody .
...And that insightful synopsis just in from our National Security Adviser Erm Sapperstein! 8)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on August 31, 2019, 07:10:15 PM
One thing I just cannot understand is the case on which the remainers outside parliment today is the death of democracy. That's the LAST thing they should be protesting about, when they DID NOT respect the mandate of the people in March when the UK were supposed to leave. The fukkin cheek if them therefore to claim Boris is not respecting democracy
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 01, 2019, 10:13:19 AM
One thing I just cannot understand is the case on which the remainers outside parliment today is the death of democracy. That's the LAST thing they should be protesting about, when they DID NOT respect the mandate of the people in March when the UK were supposed to leave. The fukkin cheek if them therefore to claim Boris is not respecting democracy

Dalymount are you sitting downfor this .........I agree with you .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 01, 2019, 04:39:06 PM
I don't know what to say, I'm feeling scared John has agreed with me what's happening. ???
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Rat Catcher on September 02, 2019, 10:42:13 AM
Be afraid, be verey afrayed.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 02, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
Dalyer What about Reess Mogg asking .2Mr Spearke remarks attributed to you outside of this house have called into question youn neutrality and ability to continue to carry out your duty to this house in an non bias manner .Mr Spearer can I ask you to explain your comment to guarentee the House of your Bona Fides ?Now Burkow is a mouth and will understand that his ontegrity is being questioned and his role undermined ,if he gets into a war of words then Moggy says "Mr Speaker as leader of the house it is my opinion that you no longer enjoy the confidence of the house to perform your duty .Then there has to be a vote of confidence in the Spearer .Berkow could be afronted by such a claim and resign .Then the Government refuse to nominate a New Speaker until they consider the applicants .No Speaker no one to propose debates in reality Parliamend shuts down and its Mr Speakers fault not the Governments .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 02, 2019, 11:56:51 AM
Berkow is a good friend of Shatter's.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 02, 2019, 12:22:09 PM
Dalyer another option Boris proposes a vote of confidence in his own government then tells his members to abstain .That way the opposition would need to support the government to stop an election .Advantage the Tory rebels would not need to vote against their own party and Boris makes it a condition of standing for the Tories you must pledge to uphold the Brexit vote .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 02, 2019, 12:31:18 PM
If one of your permutations isn't right John....I'll eat me mickey!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 02, 2019, 12:41:06 PM
Britain is committing Suicide we just dont know the method .Grown up intelligent adults fighting among them selves about how they will kill themselves rather than trying to stop them killing themselves .Uk .America India three of the biggest DEMOCRACIES falling apart .Think the Shinners have the right idea about politics Do Fuck All that way you do no damage .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 02, 2019, 12:47:50 PM
Hal what do you recon .Get a football team from a Brexit voting constituency and one from a remainer and play a match over two legs home and away (the fucking irony ) and the winning teams prefrence wins .There couldnt be any foreign players on the Leave Side obviously and the remainers must include a few EU players .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 02, 2019, 01:39:59 PM
Look the protester's are all remainers. These same cu ts have the check to say Boris is wrecking their democracy. THESE ARE THE SAME PRICKS WHO REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE DEMOCRATIC RESULT OF THE REFERENDUM, and then they say BORISis the one denying democracy . Such a contradiction is unbelievable
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 02, 2019, 01:43:31 PM
Look the protester's are all remainers. These same cu ts have the check to say Boris is wrecking their democracy. THESE ARE THE SAME PRICKS WHO REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE DEMOCRATIC RESULT OF THE REFERENDUM, and then they say BORISis the one denying democracy . Such a contradiction is unbelievable

WAIT FOR IT ...................................I agree
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 02, 2019, 02:28:46 PM
Jeez John, I can't handle this
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 02, 2019, 02:47:05 PM
Do any of you agree. The fundamental reason the Brits want out is, they are sick and tired of their country being taken over by foreigners. This is also the reason for the rise of the AFD in Germany, Italy Holland Hungary, Poland, France, and many many more countries. Yet even though the politicians of these countries know it, the bastards won't admit it. So here is my answer to remove all this unhappiness. Ask the EU to STOP FREE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE , I gaurentee you this is what brexit was about , and it would be stopped in the morning if the EU agreed to this
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 02, 2019, 02:53:13 PM
Do any of you agree. The fundamental reason the Brits want out is, they are sick and tired of their country being taken over by foreigners. This is also the reason for the rise of the AFD in Germany, Italy Holland Hungary, Poland, France, and many many more countries. Yet even though the politicians of these countries know it, the bastards won't admit it. So here is my answer to remove all this unhappiness. Ask the EU to STOP FREE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE , I gaurentee you this is what brexit was about , and it would be stopped in the morning if the EU agreed to this


AH FUCK your right again BUTTTTTTTTTTTT Churchill fucked up the UK after WW2 he needed men to rebuild the bombed out country and invited the Commonwealth to come and help ,he expected them to come earn coin and fuck off but they got used to wiping their arse with newspaper instead of a handfull of Grass or sand and stayed .The Great Churchill destroyed his own Country not the EU .

 The East Germans never intergrated back into the GDR they were never wanted by the West Germans even now they are importing foreigners to undermone the East Germans who they believe have Soviet leanings .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 02, 2019, 06:34:23 PM
So Boris just called his own MPs low life pieces off shit and dared them to vote him down telling them they are arseholes and he wont listen to any more of their shite .He said he dosent want an Election so now we know he wants an election .Time to GET A GUN .or a BIG STICK .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 03, 2019, 07:30:08 AM
He also threatened sitting Tory M.P.'s if they vote against him they'll be off the ticket.........that could see Farage seizing an opportunity.....which will further split the vote.............they're not leaving....accept it.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 03, 2019, 09:34:14 AM
He also threatened sitting Tory M.P.'s if they vote against him they'll be off the ticket.........that could see Farage seizing an opportunity.....which will further split the vote.............they're not leaving....accept it.

You know my hope is they dont leave but they have Munchausens they are on a road to self destruction .Those riots will make good telly for 24 hour news channels .Its a perfect storm Boris and Corbyn two of the most inept humans on the planet .Britain is imploding and the Labour Party are behind in the Polls Macavelli couldnt make sence of that one .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 03, 2019, 10:11:35 AM
The E.U. project has failed........it worked well enough when it was the E.E.C. As soon as the Marxists hijacked it, it became Capitalism for the Elite, and refined Socialism (life-time of dependency on the state) for the plebs. So many crazy left-wing parties developed from the emergence of Universities in France, Germany and Scandinavia that there is no middle-of-the-road any more...the likes of Merkel and her servants, such as the clowns wearing BoHo keks in the Dáil, just paid homage to the Stalinist term, "useful idiots"...that is, people who can be disposed of when the time comes.

Here's a quote from a former top KGB man..........

The new overarching centralised governmental model begins to take control. Leftist usurpers who initially thought they were going to be part of the new power structure begin to realise they were used and manipulated and they themselves become the new enemy. Because they have first hand knowledge of the agenda they are the primary target for elimination. They may simply be disregarded, obfuscated, thrown out, or they may be collected, imprisoned, or worse killed. There is no longer room for dissension. Dissent is only possible within the free system that has now been deconstructed. Therefore the leftist purpose is served once the destabilisation is complete. Totalitarian Government takes control…" ~ Former KGB Agent Yuri Bezmenov

Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 03, 2019, 11:08:57 AM
Lip now you know why I want the Brits to remain .They are the last bullwork between liberty and central control .Our Idiots would sell us all out for a few Billion Euro off the Debt we owe to our overloards .Who are actually one and the same lenders and payees the state loans to the state with the backing of the silent state .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 03, 2019, 11:16:56 AM
I have to get back to doing a bit of work....

Whatever happens won't be down to the "democratic" process, John. It hasn't existed here for some time. Cowen and others proved to me ages ago that ticking a box on a ballot form means fuck all and probably never did. When you look at how George Dubya hijacked the U.S. presidency it makes a mockery of those who naively think they live in a part of the world upholding democracy. I took Brexit for many to cop it.........pity they care more about Britain than they do their own besieged little island....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 03, 2019, 11:34:56 AM
Lip we are already Vassal so are Greece and Cypress Italy is a staging post for imigrants Malta is alsoinvaded .Germany has been invaded without them even noticing Scandinavia is fucked .In a speach I done in2012 to Microsoft I predicted Brexit and suggested we might follow the Brits out .Watch the Farmers outside Meat Factories it might be the first move twords Irexit .If Rural Ireland turns against the EU all bets are off.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 03, 2019, 11:41:15 AM
I read your article and unlike yourself, I praised you for it....there's no way out for us, John......I'd love to think there was, but we were saddled with 42% of all E.U, banking debt in 2009..and we never flinched. Our then cretinous Mayo leader, Dame Enda Kenny, proclaimed to Strasbourg that we "had a party" and we have to "pay for it".  Truth is we were responsible for none of it.......we paid for the Elite's "Big Short" gambles on the stocks and shares index.........same happened in 1929 in New York but people from that era could not read or write in the main.....we'd no such excuse, except our national inferiority complex ensured we would roll over and take a sloppy cock from the ECB and IMF(USA).
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 03, 2019, 12:05:06 PM
The fiscal Treaty is a suspended sentence for our sins .If the economy contracts and the tax take collapses after Brexit Paddy at the Urging of everybody except Labour voted to limit our national Debt and borrowing we wrote it into the constitution .When we are truly broke watch Vulture funds buying Local Authorities like DCC od SDCC and then imposing higher local authority rents refuge charges water charges road pricing and the Gay Indian telling us how lucky we are that these funds like us and want to HELP us because they LIKE us .

Many years ago I was walking up Kildare Street I was about 16 or 17 and I was with a nut job called Barney Baskerville Farmers were protesting and Barney stood on the wall of the Dal gates ans holding his paper up started to chant Lynch Out  the chant gained momentum and within a week Jack resigned .Barney had nothing to do with farming he was about 60 and lived in a celler flat with his mother in Renalagh .This country like Britain will see uprising from unforseen events .Watch the Farmers the Government still havent jailed any of them for breaking court orders not to block the factories
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 03, 2019, 12:09:17 PM
They can't jail them as they're stooges for the bigger game....most of them are SF puppets in reality. The Chinese are over here not to sign agri deals but to buy the factories............they haven't been told that...but they know it. During the "emergency" here in the 30's....Lemass issued thousands of CPO's and the farmers all caved....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 03, 2019, 10:31:15 PM
Dalymount I AGREE .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 03, 2019, 11:03:17 PM
Dalymount what chances Boris tells the DUP to go fuck off you disloyal skum .If it wasent for you dirt jerrymandering Constituencies in Derry to deprive Catholics of houses then the Troubles probably wouldnt of kicked off and the Good Friday wouldnt exist so no Border guarenteed .Now Fuck off .Imagine the leaders of the Prods in the North and the Leader of the Jock Prods are nor elected members of Parliament Even the leader of the Taig gunmen is not an elected member of Parliament .Some joke of a Democracy when three housewives call the shoth .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 04, 2019, 05:12:29 AM
Do any of you agree. The fundamental reason the Brits want out is, they are sick and tired of their country being taken over by foreigners. This is also the reason for the rise of the AFD in Germany, Italy Holland Hungary, Poland, France, and many many more countries. Yet even though the politicians of these countries know it, the bastards won't admit it. So here is my answer to remove all this unhappiness. Ask the EU to STOP FREE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE , I gaurentee you this is what brexit was about , and it would be stopped in the morning if the EU agreed to this
It's too late now DM, there are IN and they aren't going anywhere !

I remember being in Piccadilly Circus about 15 years back on a business trip and my work colleague turned to me and said; "Ken, is there any White people here ?". True story.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 04, 2019, 08:07:24 AM
Watching whats going on in Britain .How the fuck did they ever Rule half the World .It was a bit like watching the passengers taking over the flying of the Plane because they wanted to go to Ibiza and not Barcelona .Was it Sham69 or the Clash who sang Anarchy in the UK .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 04, 2019, 08:09:15 AM
Because back then the world was ruled by those who had the biggest Navy.....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 04, 2019, 08:17:19 AM
Sex Pistols, btw.....Johnny Rotten was banned from the BBC for calling out Jimmy Saville.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 04, 2019, 08:19:47 AM
Watching whats going on in Britain .How the fuck did they ever Rule half the World .It was a bit like watching the passengers taking over the flying of the Plane because they wanted to go to Ibiza and not Barcelona .Was it Sham69 or the Clash who sang Anarchy in the UK .

I think it was the Sex Pistols, Great video !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBojbjoMttI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBojbjoMttI)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 04, 2019, 02:19:05 PM
Dalyer I hope you havent been arested for Match fixing as I havent heard from you today .Anyhoo What if Boris wins an election and on the first day back he porogues parliament until after January 31st .So there is nobody to debate with or do a deal with .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 05, 2019, 12:33:22 PM
Boris Brother Quits .Shit and Fan interaction .You might be right Lipp they can check out any time they like but they can never leave .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 05, 2019, 12:51:08 PM
Watch the middle-East.............Benji Nathan Yahoo in London today....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 05, 2019, 01:37:00 PM
Is that not what he wants John ? If Boris gets his election , then surely it will drag on till after 31st oct whereby no deal will apply
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 05, 2019, 01:38:38 PM
At least Mike Pence made it clear where the tanks stand thank God for that anyway. America fully supportive of brexit
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 05, 2019, 01:45:06 PM
Is that not what he wants John ? If Boris gets his election , then surely it will drag on till after 31st oct whereby no deal will apply

There is an option never mentioned .Boris waits till the day he is supposed to ask for an extention and resigns as Prime Minister that way Parliament said the Prime Minister must ask for an extension .If there is No Prime Minister then there is nobody to ask .Will Boros sacrifice himself for brexit ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 05, 2019, 01:47:12 PM
Is that not what he wants John ? If Boris gets his election , then surely it will drag on till after 31st oct whereby no deal will apply

There is an option never mentioned .Boris waits till the day he is supposed to ask for an extention and resigns as Prime Minister that way Parliament said the Prime Minister must ask for an extension .If there is No Prime Minister then there is nobody to ask .Will Boros sacrifice himself for brexit ?

How would the Express spin that John?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 05, 2019, 01:56:00 PM
Lot of people around Westminster reckon Boris is on the verge of resigning now, cause things didn't work out the way he planned. Bring on Nigel Farage that the boy to shake things up
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 05, 2019, 02:03:54 PM
Lot of people around Westminster reckon Boris is on the verge of resigning now, cause things didn't work out the way he planned. Bring on Nigel Farage that the boy to shake things up

You're deluded if you think Farage would step into the breach.....he's great at throwing grenades but falls short in the aftermath.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 05, 2019, 02:06:01 PM
Is that not what he wants John ? If Boris gets his election , then surely it will drag on till after 31st oct whereby no deal will apply

There is an option never mentioned .Boris waits till the day he is supposed to ask for an extention and resigns as Prime Minister that way Parliament said the Prime Minister must ask for an extension .If there is No Prime Minister then there is nobody to ask .Will Boros sacrifice himself for brexit ?

How would the Express spin that John?

Prime Minister Resigns to defend Democracy .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 05, 2019, 02:09:47 PM
Sure he was never elected in the first place.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 05, 2019, 02:16:24 PM
He is going on the Wireless later to appeal to the people .He needs to be carefull a lot of angry people in the UKat the moment .Cunts running the kip couldnt agree on what day of the week it is .DANGEROUS tofuck about .Farage is well hidden the last few days so are the Shinners and the Gay Foreigner .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 05, 2019, 02:19:24 PM
John seriously . Your assertion that there will be blood on the streets of England may not be so far off the mark as most of us thought. The whole brexit thing is the most passionate event ever to occur
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 05, 2019, 02:21:01 PM
John seriously . Your assertion that there will be blood on the streets of England may not be so far off the mark as most of us thought. The whole brexit thing is the most passionate event ever to occur

YEP and as you said Democracy denied only take a few angry men to kick it off .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 05, 2019, 04:03:54 PM
At least Mike Pence made it clear where the tanks stand thank God for that anyway. America fully supportive of brexit

He did so from the safety of Doonbeg.....what sort of message does that send? Shannon........the home of all American extraordinary rendition...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 05, 2019, 06:35:21 PM
If Corbyn resigned as Labour Leader do you think they would win a few 100 seat majority. Is Brexit really a fashion show between Boris,Farage and Corbin to decide which of them is the more abnoctious prick .Dalymount I really dont know what is going to Happen but hopefully the Brits dont crash out and destroy themselves and us .You listen to the British TV there are some really angry people on both sides .Is there any case to be made for the Conservatives who were trown out of their party and sensible Labour MP to form a political party and stand in any election on the promise of a second referendum with a go with no deal or revoke option and agree to abide by the result of the referendum impliment or revoke then after the law is past that party ceases to be and they call a general election and parties then put forward a manifesto in any election on how they will run the now decided UK .I dont think this can be peacefully settled without a second referendum .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 05, 2019, 06:45:31 PM
DEATH WISH BORRIS Boris Johnson has said he would rather be “dead in a ditch” than go to Brussels to ask for a further delay to Brexit.THIS FOOL IS THE PRIME MINISTER . lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 05, 2019, 07:04:18 PM
Day off today and watching the news channels on and off.  British politics is totally fukked at the moment.  The EU leaders must be pissing themselves laughing at Boris.  The Germans even have a word for it - Schadenfreude (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude)*

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/uk-government-papers-on-suspending-parliament-released-948588.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/uk-government-papers-on-suspending-parliament-released-948588.html)

Ongoing court case in Scotland might be embarrassing/fatal for a politician other than Boris.  Looks like he'd been planning the suspension of Parliament back in August even though he'd publicly denied it.  Some of his reasoning has been blacked out and the media are trying to get it uncovered.  Case continues tomorrow...

It's not good when you try to suspend Parliament and then when it does resume, you lose 3 of 3 votes, your 'majority' drops to -23, and then finish the day by going on TV begging the opposition for an election!





* schadenfreude evokes joyful feelings that take pleasure from watching someone fail.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 05, 2019, 07:24:22 PM
Watty its frightening to see whats going on in the UK .Board Failte say our tourist trade will lose thousands of jobs that means less tourists and less workers taking taxies for work .I hear about money available for industries effected by Brexit I wonder is there anything for our trade ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 05, 2019, 07:48:20 PM
Will Brexit actually happen?  Maybe if it's dragged out long enough, the British will realise they're better in than out.  Jeremey Corbyn seems to be the stumbling block though.

If out,
1. They're fukked economically now and even more so after Brexit.  (The NY Times recently ran a story on how 'food banks' are a big thing in the UK now).
2. The Union will break up.  Scotland will leave.  In NI, it's only a matter of time and Catholics having more babies than the Prods.  And NI is an agricultural country. Who they gonna sell to?
3. In the (near?) future, countries won't matter.  It'll be about which 'gang' you belong to - USA, China, India*, the EU.... and everyone else.  Britain on it's own is screwed. 

Hard to believe they don't get it.  I guess that's the power of the Press.



* India is a maybe.  It's entirely possible they and Pakistan will nuke each other to oblivion.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 05, 2019, 07:54:33 PM
Watty its frightening to see whats going on in the UK .Board Failte say our tourist trade will lose thousands of jobs that means less tourists and less workers taking taxies for work .I hear about money available for industries effected by Brexit I wonder is there anything for our trade ?
As long as our social welfare system keeps going, we might be ok.  I don't get many drug runs these days but, using FN, it's not uncommon to get mothers in their pyjama's driving their kids to schools.  And getting the taxi home! With waiting times etc, they're usually around €15!

During the recession, I used to joke that only people on welfare had €50 notes.  I guess it's still valid?

If there is a recession, maybe drug runs will become common again?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 06, 2019, 07:25:14 AM
You have to consider BoJo's family lineage...it's very important to people with power and status.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 06, 2019, 11:01:04 AM
The Brits are all going on about looking for a further 3 month extension. What makes them think the unelected brurocrats in Brussels would GRANT such a request ? Personally I don't think the would, nor do I think Boris would ever ask the cunts for one
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 06, 2019, 11:11:42 AM
reading between the lines .There will be an election and the EU will extend for three months to let the election go ahead without being asked ..The result of the election will be another hung parliament and Boris wont be PM he might actually lose his seat in any election .Article 50 will be revoked but the result of the referendum will stand and the UK government will enter intotalks with the EU than will go on for ever until the EU falls apart .Conservatives now know remain and the Brexiteers leave the party crash out and the one nation conservatives leave the party .Its Fools Mate for Boris he got caught he cant win time to topple your king Boris will sacrifice himself and live on in Legend as the Greatest Prime Minister who ever achieved Nothing .If the Brits can outwait Boris and Corbyn both of whome will be gone after an election if there is a hung Parliament .They can Revoke or kick for touch .Crash out and the United Kingdom of England and Wales will be fucked.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 06, 2019, 11:19:39 AM
The Brits are all going on about looking for a further 3 month extension. What makes them think the unelected brurocrats in Brussels would GRANT such a request ? Personally I don't think the would, nor do I think Boris would ever ask the cunts for one
Seemingly (by law as yet fully undecided) HE HAS to ask fer it.
Wheter the EU agree is another days work.

I would agree DM it is getting very passionate and I do forsee a lot of Trouble ahead.
Blood on the streets is a real possibility.
Them Nordies are not fer Messing with !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 06, 2019, 11:24:24 AM
There's a rumour around the port that Marto has been  practising his stone throwing in disused yards around the border area!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 06, 2019, 11:24:47 AM
reading between the lines .There will be an election and the EU will extend for three months to let the election go ahead without being asked ..The result of the election will be another hung parliament and Boris wont be PM he might actually lose his seat in any election .Article 50 will be revoked but the result of the referendum will stand and the UK government will enter intotalks with the EU than will go on for ever until the EU falls apart .Conservatives now know remain and the Brexiteers leave the party crash out and the one nation conservatives leave the party .Its Fools Mate for Boris he got caught he cant win time to topple your king Boris will sacrifice himself and live on in Legend as the Greatest Prime Minister who ever achieved Nothing .If the Brits can outwait Boris and Corbyn both of whome will be gone after an election if there is a hung Parliament .They can Revoke or kick for touch .Crash out and the United Kingdom of England and Wales will be fucked.

M & S have dropped off the FTSE.......

Wonder what would happen to the NASDAQ if they ever revealed a cure for cancer........? rofl
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 06, 2019, 11:28:20 AM
New law says Prime Minister must ask .If Boris waits till the last minute and resigns as PRIME MINISTER then there is NO Prime minister available to as for an extention so he wouldnt of broken any law technically !!!!!!!!!!!!!!.I dont think Boris wants to leave I think he wanted to be PM sold his sole for the job and the Devilnow wants payment a payment Boris probably wont make .Dont be surprised if he enginers his own downfall.The longer this goes on the more stupit it gets .Biggest problem now is street violence by the dissolusioned  on both sides.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 06, 2019, 11:44:59 AM
Brexit means the collapse of the Roman Empire (part 7)........it also means wars of unparalleled horror...Rome has been sacked 6 times......the seventh is the last time...........muhahhahah!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 06, 2019, 04:10:14 PM
Delighted to see that foreign cunt Gina Miller lost her high court case along with the other prick John Major
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 06, 2019, 04:18:51 PM
Delighted to see that foreign cunt Gina Miller lost her high court case along with the other prick John Major

That was very serious shit but the Press ignored it .An X Prime Minister of Britain challenged the Sovreignty of Parliament .Britain is Fucked .I wonder which City will the Revolution kick off In .Birmingham or Liverpool must be joint Favourites followed by Leeds or London .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 06, 2019, 04:33:42 PM
I think both Miller, and Major have an absolute cheek to talk about defending democracy, when both of them were instrumental in denying the very principle of democracy by challenging the people of the UK s right to leave the EU. How dare they talk about DEMOCERCY
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 07, 2019, 10:04:09 PM
Johns prediction may well be right. Trouble reported tonight between pro, and anti brexit protester's. Also Amber Rudd resigns
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 08, 2019, 07:22:07 AM
Ah Amber Rudd everymans answer to nothing .The Trouble will kick off with the T word .Boris or Farage Call Treason on Corbyn or Berkow saying one or both of them have undermined democracy by preventing the will of the people from being enforced or exercised .Most shit is caused by other shit .England Winning the Rugby World Cup and Gingoists will be emboldened and the Rioting will kick off in time for the Chavs to get in some Christmas looting .Still think November 5th Guy Faulks night will be the time it all kicks off especially if Boris is forced to accept an extension .

 Who do you think would win a fight between Borrises new dog and Mrs Mays cat ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 08, 2019, 01:06:51 PM
Boris dosent need the Murdering spawn of Paisley to rule anymore their vote is worthless .Boris might get his deal by moving the Border into the Irish sea meaning any customs between the Uk and Ireland North and South will not be on the Island of Ireland .That way single market and irish border secure but Prods are shit on by  Britain so nothing new there .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 08, 2019, 04:35:48 PM
Can these remainer absolute fukkin assholes not see that by forcing no deal off the table they are tiying Boris hands behind his back ??
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 08, 2019, 05:39:31 PM
Can these remainer absolute fukkin assholes not see that by forcing no deal off the table they are tiying Boris hands behind his back ??

The EU and the UK have to unravel 40+ years of law integrating the two economies.

(a) They can make a deal unravelling everything before 31 Oct and depart kinda friends.
OR
(b) They can do the no-deal on 31 Oct and immediately, the UK is fukked and they'll be outsiders paying a fortune in extra taxes & tariffs.  AND the UK will still have to make deals with the EU to get their stuff into the EU.

If you were supposed to be the leader of your country & supposed to look after them, which option would you choose?



And before you say democracy again... Referendums are not binding on the UK Parliament.  Parliament is sovereign, meaning they get to make the rules.  That's why Amber Rudd etc are so upset.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_in_the_United_Kingdom

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Referendums are not legally binding, so legally the Government can ignore the results; for example, even if the result of a pre-legislative referendum were a majority of "No" for a proposed law, Parliament could pass it anyway, because parliament is sovereign.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 08, 2019, 05:52:20 PM
Wattie the Maths has changed ,Lose the Brexiteers or lose the moderate Conservatives ..Conservatives cannot trust Farage not to REMAIN in politics after Brexit so their party REMAINS under threat .Brexit was supposed to Unite the Conservatives but it has done the exact opposite .The Question is the same .Whats best for the Conservatives ?Deal and Farage and the Moggies attack, Leave and the Clarkites attack .There really is only one logical outcome .A second Referendum .With two options leave or revoke on the day after the referendum result .

  Without a second referendum the side that loses wont accept the outcome and Violent rebellion can be expected .If this happened in Russia or Cuba you would believe it but for this nonsence to be eminating from Britain makes you think there is a plan to get some sort of resolution that suits both sides .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 08, 2019, 06:25:29 PM
I'd suggest a second election is more likely than a second referendum.  Remember parliament is sovereign and they can ignore referendums.

The problem with the current group of MP's is that there are 3 groups of them and 2 always gang up with the third.  The 'whip system' isn't really working anymore.
1. Remain
2. Leave but only with a deal
3. Leave with no deal

An election with a new majority Govt (who can ignore everyone else) is what's required to solve the impasse.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 08, 2019, 06:33:00 PM
I'd suggest a second election is more likely than a second referendum.  Remember parliament is sovereign and they can ignore referendums.

The problem with the current group of MP's is that there are 3 groups of them and 2 always gang up with the third.  The 'whip system' isn't really working anymore.
1. Remain
2. Leave but only with a deal
3. Leave with no deal

An election with a new majority Govt (who can ignore everyone else) is what's required to solve the impasse.

Conservatives cant get there without Farages Help Corbin is a Communist so he wont get support .In a general election the most likely result is another hung Dail.Another Referendum would be Like Dunkirk 2 retreat and regroup and Boris could do a Churchill on it and sell it as a great victory that defends leave IN THE FUTURE .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 08, 2019, 06:37:20 PM
Farage talks a big game but has he/his parties ever got a single person elected to the UK Parliament?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 08, 2019, 06:42:49 PM
Farage talks a big game but has he/his parties ever got a single person elected to the UK Parliament?

They can take votes from the conservatives and in a First Past the Post system that is septic .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 08, 2019, 06:49:45 PM
You could equally say the moderate Conservatives might vote for the Lib Dems.

Which might make it easier for Corbyn/Labour to get elected.  Or a Labour/SNP coalition (with a few goodies thrown in for Scotland)

Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 08, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
Last week the Irish media led with some shocking news: "Government got it backwards - the backstop has created the hard Border it was supposed to stop."

Naturally, the media did no such thing. Having colluded in the crime, they are now forced to carry on with the cover-up.

The crime was telling us the big lie that the backstop was about creating an invisible Border.

Luckily, a few journalists, like Dan O'Brien of this parish, are not willing to look away in order to look after Leo & Co.

Last Thursday, Pat Leahy of The Irish Times kept faith with the facts in a story whose headline said it all:

"Ireland will prioritise single market integrity over frictionless Border."

Finally the naked truth. It was never about the Border. It was always about keeping the British in the single market, or failing that, to force Northern Protestants into a constitutional limbo.

From the start, the Government's case for the backstop should have been met with critical scrutiny by Irish politicians, journalists and academics.

Instead, our cowardly Irish intelligentsia deserted their duty of care both to the truth and to the Irish people and became a Twitter mob of tribal cheerleaders.

If they cared about protecting Irish working people they would have pushed the Irish Government to modify the backstop and help Theresa May get the Withdrawal Agreement through the House of Commons.

Instead, they pumped up green fever in an orgy of Brit-bashing and sectarian sneers at the DUP for defending its position.

Even now they try to normalise the abnormal, jeer at unionists or sneer at British parliamentary democracy.

By normalising the abnormal, I mean acting as if no-deal was no big deal.

Last week, Failte Ireland said at least 10,000 jobs would be lost in tourism.

Last Friday, Edgar Morgenroth, Professor of Economics in DCU, played down these figures on Morning Ireland.

Accepting the economy would only grow by 1pc in the event of no deal, the professor said the impact would be severe but: "It's not a catastrophe."

Maybe not if you are in a permanent and pensionable academic post. But if you're a hotelier or barista it could seem like a catastrophe.

The Irish Government could have prevented that catastrophe. All it had to do was tweak the backstop a bit last March.

Since there was no logical reason not to look for a compromise that would protect our people, we can only conclude the Fine Gael Government did not want to lose face.

Far from calling that Government to account, academics and journalists are still flakking away.

Last Monday and Tuesday, RTE's Europe editor, Tony Connelly, told us the EU view of the backstop was increasingly "holistic".

Holistic is a word to strike terror into the heart of any negotiator. Instead of one specific issue we have a spider's web of issues.

Connelly confirmed that for the EU the backstop was now about everything.

"It's not just about infrastructure, it's about society, it's about the all-island economy, it's about North-South cooperation."

Why not throw in the Norman invasion, the plantation of Ulster and the partition of Ireland?

Leo Varadkar went all holistic as well that day.

In fact he said that even if Boris Johnson came up with an invisible Border it would not be enough!

In case you don't believe me, here are his exact dismissive words about a possible range of sensible suggestions on agribusiness tariff solutions floated by Boris Johnson, Jeffrey Donaldson and Nigel Dodds.

"They just manage a border, they facilitate tariffs, they facilitate checks, they facilitate controls."

But what's wrong with that? Listen to Leo again: "But they do it in a way that is invisible and unobtrusive, and that's better than nothing, but it's not the outcome that we want to achieve."

The plain sense of that sentence means that even if Boris Johnson creates an invisible Border, it's still not acceptable because it's not the invisible backstop Border somewhere at the back of the Irish Government's mind.

What does that madness mean? To me, it means Leo Varadkar and Simon Coveney don't really want to do a compromise deal.

They want to keep the British in a permanent single market purgatory until we are satisfied with a "holistic" backstop.

Failing that, they want to force the majority of unionists into a Northern Ireland-only backstop.

That is why the Government rejected Nigel Dodds's suggestion of an agribusiness solution.

On The Tonight Show, when Ivan Yates asked him about the idea, Patrick Donovan of Fine Gael dismissed it immediately.

Bad enough that Fine Gael want to impose a nakedly sectarian settlement on the 81pc majority of Northern Protestants who reject the backstop, but it's sad to see some Fianna Fail and Labour spokespersons following them down the same tribal path.

In doing so they are only cravenly following the line laid down by Sinn Fein MEP Martina Anderson when dismissing Nigel Dodds's calls for talks with Dublin.

She tweeted: "DUP Nigel Dodds is intentionally trying to change the meaning and spirit of the GFA. The principle of consent is NOT the consent of both communities. GFA is clear - 'consent of a majority of the people'."

Anderson's crude reading is a tribal travesty of the Good Friday Agreement.

The GFA set out to deliberately destroy the kind of crude head-counting which is called majoritarianism.

First, the NI Assembly is elected by PR to amplify the minority vote, whereas Westminster elections are first past the post.

Second, the election of the first and deputy first ministers and speaker must be a cross-community vote.

Third, the GFA says only two types of vote are legitimate. One is by a majority voting on the day - but only if that includes a majority of both nationalists and unionists.

The other way is by a "weighted majority" which requires 60pc of those voting - and must include 40pc of unionists and 40pc of nationalists.

From the start the spirit and letter of the GFA was designed again to wean the parties off the majoritarian drug. There has to be power-sharing or direct rule.

A final word about the fulminations of Irish pundits about the alleged collapse of the British constitution.

They say this is a "constitutional crisis". But a crisis is when nobody knows what to do next.

But last week, behind the sound and fury, we saw British parliamentary democracy working perfectly to thwart the plans Boris Johnson.

The British don't need lectures from champions of a constitution written in secret in 1937 by priests and civil servants.

We banned divorce until 1995. We only legislated for abortion last year - nearly 50 years after Roy Jenkins liberalised the UK law.

The great American jurist, Oliver Wendell Holmes, said a good constitution has "plenty of play in its joints". The House of Commons showed us that in action last week.

Sunday Independent
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 09, 2019, 11:28:28 AM
Just more media luvvie nonsense behind the push to rip up our constitution.....the very people telling you all you must accept that spare bedrooms should be taxed or let out to those in need....be careful.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on September 09, 2019, 03:14:44 PM
BOJO in town today.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 09, 2019, 03:22:53 PM
I thought Boris was going nuclear and crashing out but that makes no sence .So any deal is better than no deal .If he gets anything he cas pass off as a victory I think he will go for it .Events could overtake Brexit if China start shooting .Britain are guardiand of the two systems  solution .If they fail to act on Chineae agression their international reputation hits the floor so why not jetison the Good Friday as well .And it now looks like the oil ship they released is heading for Syria Donny T wont like that and will look for Brit cover to bomb fuck out Iran .Dangerous times Lip .
Strange Fact of the Day about Iran;
The Iranian government renamed Winston Churchill Boulevard, the location of the Embassy of the United Kingdom in Tehran to Bobby Sands Street, prompting the embassy to move its entrance door to Ferdowsi Avenue to avoid using Bobby Sands Street on its letterhead.
An official blue and white street sign was affixed to the rear wall of the British embassy compound saying (in Persian) "Bobby Sands Street" with three words of explanation "militant Irish guerrilla".
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 09, 2019, 04:06:26 PM
Victory for Boris Speraker Berkow is set to resign .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 09, 2019, 04:13:01 PM
Bob was also a great poet., He wrote such poems as the sleeping rose, the rythem of time, the weeping wind etc a brilliant man all round . He wrote under the name of Marcella , his sister's name
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 09, 2019, 08:28:51 PM
Dalymount Nuclear Option .Donny T decides to attack Iran Borris J joins him by sending in s few war ships and unemployable Liverpudlian Soldiers .Then as Britain are at war he declares a National Emergency this allows the Prime Minister rule without the permission or direction of Parliament he then says as Britain is in a National Emergency he is not confined by the vote to seek any extension .So will Donny T invade or attack Iran to save his buddy Borris the Blond .When Britain is at war the Prime Minister can rule legally without Parliament .watch this space and GET A GUN .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 09, 2019, 09:57:20 PM
Option 2 Dollymount Boris and the Government resign as soon as the government gets the Queens speech done .Then Somebody else Corbyn or whoever has to become substitute Prime Minister and look for an extension .Then in a General Election Boris and Farage wipe the floor with Labour and the rest ,then tell the EU to go fuck itself shove the extension up the eye of their flute and leave .Just cant see the Brexiteers giving up now they are this close .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 09, 2019, 10:30:02 PM
Said it before John.....one or more or a mix of your predictions are bound to materialise....how could they not.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 09, 2019, 11:36:52 PM
These cunts are mad you couldnt second guess them But Boris said he wont ask so logic says .Conservative Government resign just before they are due to go to talk to the EU saying they no longer retain the majority of the house .The law says Prime Minister must ask and the law says if The Conservatives are out Corbyn gets 14 days to form a government .Conservatives and UDA and Jocks and Liberals all abstain Labour get the gig but are a Minority .Corbyn is then forced to go and ask for a delay .Boris then proposes a no confidence in the treason loving  bastard every body except Labour votes the old marxist out Labour get murdered in the election with the Conservatives winning a huge majority .The Brexiteers wont let the opportunity to get out pass them by .Then Boris has a majority for the next 5 years and tells the EU tofuck off and uses Corbins delay toget a trade deal done .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 09, 2019, 11:43:18 PM
Said it before John.....one or more or a mix of your predictions are bound to materialise....how could they not.

Surprised at how few Irish people understand the impact of Britain fucking off .We are thieving Scum robbing other countries tax dollard without the Brits who were doing the same to have our back the French and Germans will shit all over us .Without our tax fraud most of the Big multinationals will fuck off to somewhere cheaper in Europe .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 10, 2019, 12:03:21 AM
In people's desire to be economically secure through our membership of the EU, they have failed to recognize the incredibly big price we have paid for it. Everyone thinks our country has done so well out of the EU for cc the last 40 years. But you didn't get it for nothing. Look what they got from you. They have taken your uniquely Irish national Identity, they have taken your culture, they have taken your heritage, but most of all they have taken the sovereignty of our country. I used to be fiercely proud to be Irish, but since our country has been subjected to foreign influence, I can no longer recognize the people, or the country I once loved
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 10, 2019, 12:20:16 AM
In people's desire to be economically secure through our membership of the EU, they have failed to recognize the incredibly big price we have paid for it. Everyone thinks our country has done so well out of the EU for cc the last 40 years. But you didn't get it for nothing. Look what they got from you. They have taken your uniquely Irish national Identity, they have taken your culture, they have taken your heritage, but most of all they have taken the sovereignty of our country. I used to be fiercely proud to be Irish, but since our country has been subjected to foreign influence, I can no longer recognize the people, or the country I once loved

you aint seennothing yet .I have watched at evert twist and turn the Brits made to get out the EU just said No .I think Boris has two options Nuclear Join Trump in an illegal war or hand over power to Corbyn .Im convinced the Brits are leaving .I hoped they would not as it will Bankrupt this stone in a puddle we call a country .I think asking for documents from private individuals wont wash that will go tocourt and wont be settled before 31st October 2099.Boris said he wont ask for an extention but he never said he would be Prime Minister on 17th of October .In fact he could resign and refuse tosupport any body else as prime minister 14 plus 17 =31  so its possible if he resigns on the 17 the UK wont have a Prime Minister before the 31st to ask for an extention as dictated by law .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 10, 2019, 12:23:56 AM
I can't believe the opposition don't seem to realize they are taking away Boris Trump card by making him take no deal off the table
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 10, 2019, 12:34:56 AM
I can't believe the opposition don't seem to realize they are taking away Boris Trump card by making him take no deal off the table

Dont think you are seeing the Bigger Picture here Dalymount Boris and Cummins have just played them all .He will destroy the Labour party for a generation .He will resign and so will his government stating that the opposition are undemocratic and preventing the will of the people under the Fixed Parliament act Corbyn has to try to form a Government Labour will vote for him if they dont then the Conservatives will support him .Now Brexit and Brexit extention is Corbyns problem ,After Corbyn gets an extention Boris puts down a motion of no Confidence .The Jocks the UDA Liberals Conservatives will all vote to get Corbyn out .Now Boris fights a general election saying he will leave if the EU do not give him a deal in a fortnight or whatever time frame suits him .If he gets a majority he will have 5 years to sort it out .Its so fucking clever the opposition have put themselves in the shit .The Government can resign the opposition cant .Game set and Match to Boris .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 10, 2019, 01:00:25 AM
I must say, Boris has surprised me. He is very forciverious in his desire to leave, even giving Nigel a run for his money. The brexit party are very quite lately, not a word out of them . What's going on there I wonder ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 10, 2019, 01:15:56 AM
I must say, Boris has surprised me. He is very forciverious in his desire to leave, even giving Nigel a run for his money. The brexit party are very quite lately, not a word out of them . What's going on there I wonder ?

as it stands they lack enough support to win a single seat .Best option for them is to support conservatives by not running in seats where the conservatives have chances they should only run in strong labour seats just to act the bollox .But if Boris looks wobbly on Brexit then the Brexit party could throw their hat in the ring for real .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 10, 2019, 09:12:57 AM
Leo offered up Eire as An "Athena" to Boris's "Hercules".......clever of Leo all the same knowing BoJo is a Classics scholar....very lick-arsey though.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 10, 2019, 09:23:04 AM
After helping Hercules in his quests did Athena not kill or try to kill him .Would think leo knows fuck all about Greek or Roman Classics or even Irish Derby Winners .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 10, 2019, 09:30:05 AM
Missing the point (deliberately)............he is reconstructing the old Irish custom of doffing the cap to his perceived "betters". His script-writing spin men probably coughed when he asked them to pen him something obsequious. As for horse-racing, Leo would know that it's primarily the pursuit of lost, disgruntled men compensating for loss of libido.....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 10, 2019, 09:38:39 AM
Or did you actually miss the real point .Athena was Female so was Leo Flirting saying Hey Blondie let me be your Bitch .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 10, 2019, 09:42:18 AM
Boris would be well over his homosexual Eton flings...they have to complete several rituals of humiliation.........preparation for the Masons later in life...think the worst one is them getting pissed on by members as they writhe around in a pit...or maybe it's bukaki style and not urine...can't remember. Leo likes slim, fit young men anyway........
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 10, 2019, 09:53:20 AM
Back to Brexit .Watch Dragi later today bailing out the German Banks with a new round of Fiscal easing .Britain know the EU is Financially Corrupt and on its last legs .When Britain joined up the deal was one for all and all for one .This applies to all default Debts .Any Sovreign default will be shared anong the remaining MEMBERS of the EU .So what happens if the Euro currency crashes the only REMAINING member with its own currency would be the UK .Legally they would be liable for ALL european Debt .There is a lot of unspoken shit associated with Brexit .Dragi leaves the ECB on31st October but before he goes he will fuck up Legard by bailing out his mates once again .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 10, 2019, 10:47:14 AM
8 other E.U. nations not in the Eurozone? Anyway, should the Brits actually pull out, we'll all be a lot slimmer by Christmas.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 10, 2019, 11:04:14 AM
8 other E.U. nations not in the Eurozone? Anyway, should the Brits actually pull out, we'll all be a lot slimmer by Christmas.

Your choice do you want to be paid in £ or some other non Euro European Coin .They take Euro in Poland but you cant buy Cornflakes in Amsterdam and pay in Zalotties .The Euro is Worthless soon it will be up there with the Zimbabwe Doller .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 10, 2019, 11:34:42 AM
I can't believe the opposition don't seem to realize they are taking away Boris Trump card by making him take no deal off the table

Dont think you are seeing the Bigger Picture here Dalymount Boris and Cummins have just played them all .He will destroy the Labour party for a generation .He will resign and so will his government stating that the opposition are undemocratic and preventing the will of the people under the Fixed Parliament act Corbyn has to try to form a Government Labour will vote for him if they dont then the Conservatives will support him .Now Brexit and Brexit extention is Corbyns problem ,After Corbyn gets an extention Boris puts down a motion of no Confidence .The Jocks the UDA Liberals Conservatives will all vote to get Corbyn out .Now Boris fights a general election saying he will leave if the EU do not give him a deal in a fortnight or whatever time frame suits him .If he gets a majority he will have 5 years to sort it out .Its so fucking clever the opposition have put themselves in the shit .The Government can resign the opposition cant .Game set and Match to Boris .

JP Morgan charge their clients hundreds of Millions for their advice .They could save their coin by reading our blog ..JP Morgan says that Boris Johnson has all but three options left
In a note to clients, the firm points out that UK prime minister, Boris Johnson, is most likely to resign to let someone else request the European Union to seek a Brexit delay:

"The only options we regard as ultimately viable are for the PM to present a deal to the Commons and secure approval for it, resign and let someone else make the extension request as PM, or back away from his stated position. At this point, our view is that resignation is the most likely of these three."
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 10, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
There is another option , I don't know what it is yet, John hasn't posted it yet
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 10, 2019, 11:54:49 AM
Its a Coup Dalymount they have control they wont back down Brexit is happening .Dont expect normal Parliamentary Politics to apply .Look at UK employment and hourly wages .The Brits are living it large unlike the Brexit doom and Gloom forcast .If Boris gets an Election he wins by a Country Mile .Britain will Fuck Ireland Economically they will fuck Europe Financially .Low tax rates and low interest rates .Britain will do well after Brexit .Reading an article in this mornings paper some Company out in Clonshaugh with no employees just paid out 7 billion in dividends to shareholders but paid fuck all tax in Ireland ,another example of our low life scum government robbing the rest of the Worlds tax take and making nothing out of it .The 16 Billion they helped Apple Rob is only the tip of the cesspool they operate .The Brits must be so proud that their Bastard Child Ireland turned out to be bigger thieving scum than the Brits themselves .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 10, 2019, 12:09:37 PM
Its a Coup Dalymount they have control they wont back down Brexit is happening .Dont expect normal Parliamentary Politics to apply .Look at UK employment and hourly wages .The Brits are living it large unlike the Brexit doom and Gloom forcast .If Boris gets an Election he wins by a Country Mile .Britain will Fuck Ireland Economically they will fuck Europe Financially .Low tax rates and low interest rates .Britain will do well after Brexit .Reading an article in this mornings paper some Company out in Clonshaugh with no employees just paid out 7 billion in dividends to shareholders but paid fuck all tax in Ireland ,another example of our low life scum government robbing the rest of the Worlds tax take and making nothing out of it .The 16 Billion they helped Apple Rob is only the tip of the cesspool they operate .The Brits must be so proud that their Bastard Child Ireland turned out to be bigger thieving scum than the Brits themselves .

The 51st State is Britain...you're getting it now..........they created little mini-Britains everywhere for their own gain.....top half of France is still theirs.........the whole of Africa is theirs. Washington was a Brit appointee.....the Masonic apron he proudly wore in every picture. From the inception of the Irish State, Hibernia's only crime was to be stupid enough to try defy DeValera......Foxes don't live too long in hen-houses.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 10, 2019, 12:32:41 PM
You seem to have changed your position John, you repeatedly said Britian was fukked if brexit went ahead, now your painting a very different picture
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 10, 2019, 01:22:53 PM
You seem to have changed your position John, you repeatedly said Britian was fukked if brexit went ahead, now your painting a very different picture

British Unemployables will still be unemployable Compared to the Eurozone which is set for another recession ,The UK will do OK .The biggest losers from Brexit will be Ireland
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 10, 2019, 03:39:54 PM
Everyone says we will be the biggest loosers, but I just cannot see how ? Surely with all the British based companies who have applied to operate here, this will create both further job opportunities, plus competition ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 10, 2019, 04:24:06 PM
Everyone says we will be the biggest loosers, but I just cannot see how ? Surely with all the British based companies who have applied to operate here, this will create both further job opportunities, plus competition ?

Shell companies just using Irish addresses to by pass tax and import rules .More cuntology by our dishonest bastards .Workers pay top tax top exise duty top Vat oldest retirement age in the western world ask yourself why .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 11, 2019, 08:56:04 AM
Said it before John.....one or more or a mix of your predictions are bound to materialise....how could they not.
And then we all have to read; "Listen, I told ye !" fer the next Ten years !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 11, 2019, 09:12:23 AM
There is another option , I don't know what it is yet, John hasn't posted it yet
Second Referendum !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 11, 2019, 09:22:48 AM
You seem to have changed your position John, you repeatedly said Britian was fukked if brexit went ahead, now your painting a very different picture
That tends to happen a lot !
As a Voter once said; "I want 'No', but I'm voting 'Yes' !".
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 11, 2019, 09:45:56 AM
If it was down to me they would remain but the Conservatives are under attack from the Brexit Party and need to destroy them the only way to do that is leave .I dont know how they will manage it but they will leave deal or no deal .Ireland is fucked read todays Indo Budget oversight committee is warning Paggo to stop spending the Unicorn Shit in tax that he is getting from multinationals as it wont last .Look at the farmers protesting outside meat factories .Factories are delighted as they cant sell the meat to britain as its to expensive due to the collapse of the £ .Tourist industry struggling due to value of £ .and this is before they leave .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 11, 2019, 09:49:09 AM
Any News on the Sliced Pan ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 11, 2019, 09:51:47 AM
Any News on the Sliced Pan ?

Not available from tomorrow in the Douglas Shopping Center you will need to go to the Centra beside you .Brexit bread willbe like Brexit milk harder to get and more expensive .In an agricultural country like this we actually import most of our Flour from far far away .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 11, 2019, 10:01:53 AM
What story do old loaves of bread tell?

Moldylocks and the three bears
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 11, 2019, 10:13:02 AM
Again I would say to you I think your assessment of the pounds performance is wrong, because all the reports suggest the pound is on the rise , and has been for the last few days
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 11, 2019, 10:22:12 AM
My biggest fear has just been realized. The Scottish supreme Court has over rules the high court decision , and declared the suspension of parliment to be unlawful
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 11, 2019, 10:26:48 AM
Sorry I got that wrong, it was ANOTHER  court in Scotland that made this ruling, but the matter is being appealed to the SUPREME COURT and will be heard in Tuesday next
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 11, 2019, 10:40:38 AM
Again I would say to you I think your assessment of the pounds performance is wrong, because all the reports suggest the pound is on the rise , and has been for the last few days
It may well have been fer the "Last few days" ?
But you might want to look back at it's track history over the last few months ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 11, 2019, 10:44:52 AM
Sorry I got that wrong, it was ANOTHER  court in Scotland that made this ruling, but the matter is being appealed to the SUPREME COURT and will be heard in Tuesday next

Devolved Govt there as in N.I.(in theory). BoJo wants to build a bridge (to counteract the border shite) between Larne and some kip in Scotland which is 12 miles as the crow flies. He cited the Chinese bridge between Beijing and some other city which is 102 miles long as an example. What he fails to realise is the Chinese also built 17 motorways in Beijing in the same time it took the Brits and us to build one....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 11, 2019, 11:02:13 AM
I'm not joking . I seriously think I have to stop reading and listening to anything to do with brexit. The contempt I feel for these remainer bastards is unimaginable. They will stop at nothing to detail brexit, and this ruling is just another blow to Boris who already had his hands tied behind his back by this shower of cunts when they voted to take no deal off the table. Mostly what I cannot understand about these fukkin remainers is the way they continue make the case that shutting down parliment is in Democratic. The biggest denial of democracy was when they would not implement the mandate they were given to leave
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 11, 2019, 11:11:35 AM
None of my business, Dalymount, but you seem to be wasting your time giving a fuck about this whole charade. Ask yourself one question; Why is Parliament empty except on Wednesdays......?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 11, 2019, 11:55:31 AM
Sorry lippy, but it very much IS my business. I see brexit as the beginning of the end for that crowd of unelected brurocratic bastards in Europe, who have taken my national Identity, and the sovereignty of our country so to that end my hope is that I will see the total distraction of the European project
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 11, 2019, 11:57:04 AM
I know it's your business, Dalyer....I said it's none of mine if you re-read it.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 11, 2019, 01:15:18 PM
Is Borris Fucked .If he lied to the Queen he cannot continue as Prime Minister .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 11, 2019, 01:17:53 PM
Game on. Mr Erm.........Blair lied to her too........
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 11, 2019, 01:24:37 PM
Game on. Mr Erm.........Blair lied to her too........

Freddy Forsyth couldnt write this triller more twist and turns than a Unicorns Horn .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 11, 2019, 01:32:18 PM
To make matters worse, Mr Erm...........Unicorns are non-gender....which is why the LGBTQ crowd advocate their usage everywhere....no cunt nor cock as per instruction.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 11, 2019, 02:01:00 PM
Be honest now, ya have to admit it. Isn't the world gone fukkin mad, between him , her, and fukkin it
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 11, 2019, 02:07:07 PM
Be honest now, ya have to admit it. Isn't the world gone fukkin mad, between him , her, and fukkin it
Big Dommo just wouldnt understand todays generation .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 11, 2019, 02:38:06 PM
English Judges just ruled the Jock Judges got it wrong and said Boris was right to close the doors .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 11, 2019, 04:22:24 PM
You serious ? Which judge ? Was he a supreme Court judge ? Was he just expressing an opinion ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 11, 2019, 04:55:20 PM
You serious ? Which judge ? Was he a supreme Court judge ? Was he just expressing an opinion ?

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/sep/11/english-judges-explain-decision-to-reject-prorogation-challenge (https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/sep/11/english-judges-explain-decision-to-reject-prorogation-challenge)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 11, 2019, 05:12:41 PM
That's very interesting, on that bases, you would have to think Boris is back in business
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 11, 2019, 05:44:22 PM
It'll be decided next Tues over a 3-day hearing in the UK Supreme Court.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 11, 2019, 09:06:18 PM
What's the chances of Boris winning ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 11, 2019, 10:06:57 PM
What's the chances of Boris winning ?

To save the Queen the Embarressment of having to be ruled incompetent by granting Boris the Prorogation I recon Supreme court will rule he has the Executive Right .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 12, 2019, 04:57:01 AM
Who would win a fight between Leeds and Birmingham ..... Riots on the streets, food price rises and reduced medical supplies are real risks of the UK leaving the EU without a deal, a government document has said.

Ministers have published details of their Yellowhammer contingency plan, after MPs voted to force its release.

It outlines a series of "reasonable worst case assumptions" for the impact of a no-deal Brexit on 31 October.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 12, 2019, 07:04:17 AM
Well in fairness, YOU predicted the riots for many months now, they didn't have to wait for yellowhammer, they should have just read our forum
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 12, 2019, 07:22:12 AM
On this side of the water .Most of our Fuel is imported from British Refineries .Will there be import duty on top of any carbon tax in the budget .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 12, 2019, 09:43:23 AM
I don't think anyone is going to have to worry about brexit any longer. The amount of scaremongering going on with the release of yellowhammer is bound to put a stop to brexit happening at all. Game set and match to the remainers I suspect.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on September 12, 2019, 09:51:18 AM
Daly when yer back to a tenner an hour all night you'll be sorry you ever heard the Brexit word.I hope the brits piss off as it's beyond boring at this point.Nothing else on the news.In the days before the internet and 24 hour news the scaremongering would never have caused much damage. Newspapers once a day would have caused a lot less damage than the various online outlets.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 12, 2019, 10:07:36 AM
Gives that pratt, Dizzee, the perfect ammo to hit everyone in the budget. Incidentally, whose cruel idea was it to put an "s" in the word Lisp?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 12, 2019, 11:00:46 AM
Gives that pratt, Dizzee, the perfect ammo to hit everyone in the budget. Incidentally, whose cruel idea was it to put an "s" in the word Lisp?

Clearly some fuk who hasn't got a lisp!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 12, 2019, 11:05:40 AM
Gives that pratt, Dizzee, the perfect ammo to hit everyone in the budget. Incidentally, whose cruel idea was it to put an "s" in the word Lisp?

Clearly some fuk who hasn't got a lisp!!
What does a horny mathematician with a lisp do to have fun?
...
...

Math debates
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 12, 2019, 11:43:08 AM
Gives that pratt, Dizzee, the perfect ammo to hit everyone in the budget. Incidentally, whose cruel idea was it to put an "s" in the word Lisp?

Clearly some fuk who hasn't got a lisp!!
What does a horny mathematician with a lisp do to have fun?
...
...

Math debates

Fellow was asked if he knew of any actors who could cure a lisp.........."I think Anne Hathaway, but I'd ask Colin Firth."
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 12, 2019, 11:47:08 AM
The analysis indicates that the aim of avoiding a hard border in Northern Ireland may be "unsustainable". ::fds ::fds ::fds ::fds ::fds
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 12, 2019, 11:54:52 AM
Tuna, Mackerel, peas, beans, tinned fruit.........all still available in Dunnes, The Square.....not going to happen.........more chance of a zombie virus hitting those who drive Prius(es).
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 12, 2019, 11:55:48 AM
Tuna, Mackerel, peas, beans, tinned fruit.........all still available in Dunnes, The Square.....not going to happen.........more chance of a zombie virus hitting those who drive Prius(es).
What's the stock situation on Sliced Pans ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 12, 2019, 11:57:38 AM
Cheeky son of a batch.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 12, 2019, 12:34:33 PM
Any word of the court judgement in the north yet ? I'm out walking at the mo, so no news
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 12, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
Any word of the court judgement in the north yet ? I'm out walking at the mo, so no news
12 Sep 2019 11:53
A legal challenge in Belfast High Court that argued the UK government's Brexit strategy will damage the Northern Ireland peace process has been dismissed.
Lord Justice Bernard McCloskey delivered his ruling on three joined cases against British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's handling of the UK's European Union exit.
The trio of challenges contended that a no-deal Brexit on 31 October would undermine agreements involving the Irish and UK governments that were struck during the peace process and which underpin cross-border cooperation.
The UK government rejected that contention during two days of legal proceedings in the High Court.
In his written ruling, the judge said: "I consider the characterisation of the subject matter of these proceedings as inherently and unmistakably political to be beyond plausible dispute.
"Virtually all of the assembled evidence belongs to the world of politics, both national and supra-national.
"Within the world of politics the well-recognised phenomena of claim and counterclaim, assertion and counter-assertion, allegation and denial, blow and counter-blow, alteration and modification of government policy, public statements, unpublished deliberations, posturing, strategy and tactics are the very essence of what is both countenanced and permitted in a democratic society."
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 12, 2019, 02:14:46 PM
Not a fukkin word about this judgement on any of the bias news channels. If it had of went the other way, we would not have heard the end of it just look at the judgement delivered yesterday by the Scottish judges , the remainers , and the TV we're nearly having an orgasim over it. President Trump is right what he says about the media
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 12, 2019, 02:17:39 PM
From A.J.P. Taylor...famous historian...


Quality newspaper journalism equals inter-departmental memo for the Elite....replace that "newspaper" with 24 hr bullshit news.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 12, 2019, 02:23:07 PM
People are going to be scared shitless over the findings of this fukkin yellowhammer document
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 12, 2019, 02:31:40 PM
Did you see the statement that the sneakey unelected brurocratic bastards in the EU have just put out ? They said they would be open to granting another extension if asked. All these cunts are doing is fanning the flames , and trying to invite people in the UK I hate the sneakey bastards
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 12, 2019, 02:33:25 PM
Our industry has been completely taken over by []s, Muslims, Chinese, Indians, etc it's time we took it back
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on September 12, 2019, 04:12:23 PM
Taxi driving isn't a prestigious profession Daly like years ago.Maybe the Irish are too smart to pay 500 a week rental and fuel just to go to work.?Can't really blame them.The foreigner is here to stay.Most of my passengers are immigrants or tourists.They don't care who drives the Prius.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 12, 2019, 04:28:34 PM
Son to Dad - "Why do Gardeners have Green Thumbs, when their thumbs are not Green ?"

Dad to Son - "It's just a saying, son. it's like when somebody is caught stealing, they say they have been caught Red Handed , even though their hands are actually Black"

 rofl
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 12, 2019, 10:22:42 PM
OK hers a better one for ye's (kinda connected to a lisp)

My mate who has a stutter was telling us about his Nana.

By the time he was finished we were all singing "Hey Jude"

Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 12, 2019, 11:05:50 PM
OK hers a better one for ye's (kinda connected to a lisp)

My mate who has a stutter was telling us about his Nana.

By the time he was finished we were all singing "Hey Jude"

You're terrible Muriel!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 13, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
OK hers a better one for ye's (kinda connected to a lisp)

My mate who has a stutter was telling us about his Nana.

By the time he was finished we were all singing "Hey Jude"

You're terrible Muriel!
Who is Muriel ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 13, 2019, 11:45:45 AM
OK hers a better one for ye's (kinda connected to a lisp)

My mate who has a stutter was telling us about his Nana.

By the time he was finished we were all singing "Hey Jude"

You're terrible Murie

Who is Muriel ?




Hilda Ogden had one.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 13, 2019, 11:47:22 AM
At up chuck
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 13, 2019, 11:48:33 AM
Poor auld Stan and Eddie Yeats.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 13, 2019, 11:51:11 AM
That's corny
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 13, 2019, 11:52:54 AM
That's corny

They used to call David James "Ena Sharples"...hair was always in a net.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 13, 2019, 03:15:14 PM
There has been a significant update from the UK Government and the Motor Insurers’ Bureau of Ireland (MIBI) on the requirement for Green Cards for those driving their Irish registered vehicles in Northern Ireland or other parts of the UK in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit.

In advance of the 31st October Brexit deadline, the UK Department for Transport has confirmed they will now accept valid Irish motor insurance discs from Irish registered vehicles as proof of insurance.

Given the significant number of Green Card requests we had received from customers who were taking steps to prepare for a potential ‘no deal’ Brexit, we wanted to share this positive development with you.

So, in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit, as long as your Irish registered vehicle has a valid Irish insurance disc, you will not need a Green Card when travelling to Northern Ireland or other parts of the UK.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 13, 2019, 03:27:48 PM
There has been a significant update from the UK Government and the Motor Insurers’ Bureau of Ireland (MIBI) on the requirement for Green Cards for those driving their Irish registered vehicles in Northern Ireland or other parts of the UK in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit.

In advance of the 31st October Brexit deadline, the UK Department for Transport has confirmed they will now accept valid Irish motor insurance discs from Irish registered vehicles as proof of insurance.

Given the significant number of Green Card requests we had received from customers who were taking steps to prepare for a potential ‘no deal’ Brexit, we wanted to share this positive development with you.

So, in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit, as long as your Irish registered vehicle has a valid Irish insurance disc, you will not need a Green Card when travelling to Northern Ireland or other parts of the UK.

The Famous Five would be shouting "Hurrah,Hurrah!!" and drinking lemonade about now!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 13, 2019, 03:29:23 PM
There has been a significant update from the UK Government and the Motor Insurers’ Bureau of Ireland (MIBI) on the requirement for Green Cards for those driving their Irish registered vehicles in Northern Ireland or other parts of the UK in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit.

In advance of the 31st October Brexit deadline, the UK Department for Transport has confirmed they will now accept valid Irish motor insurance discs from Irish registered vehicles as proof of insurance.

Given the significant number of Green Card requests we had received from customers who were taking steps to prepare for a potential ‘no deal’ Brexit, we wanted to share this positive development with you.

So, in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit, as long as your Irish registered vehicle has a valid Irish insurance disc, you will not need a Green Card when travelling to Northern Ireland or other parts of the UK.

The Famous Five would be shouting "Hurrah,Hurrah!!" and drinking lemonade about now!
It killed me to post that but I felt I'd no option , forgive me Hal
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 13, 2019, 03:35:20 PM
I'd say it did alri!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 13, 2019, 04:55:53 PM
There has been a significant update from the UK Government and the Motor Insurers’ Bureau of Ireland (MIBI) on the requirement for Green Cards for those driving their Irish registered vehicles in Northern Ireland or other parts of the UK in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit.

In advance of the 31st October Brexit deadline, the UK Department for Transport has confirmed they will now accept valid Irish motor insurance discs from Irish registered vehicles as proof of insurance.

Given the significant number of Green Card requests we had received from customers who were taking steps to prepare for a potential ‘no deal’ Brexit, we wanted to share this positive development with you.

So, in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit, as long as your Irish registered vehicle has a valid Irish insurance disc, you will not need a Green Card when travelling to Northern Ireland or other parts of the UK.

The Famous Five would be shouting "Hurrah,Hurrah!!" and drinking lemonade about now!

And Aunt Fanny, the brick, serving lashings of ginger beer to wash down the shrimp pate and Whores Doovries.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 16, 2019, 08:44:41 AM
There has been a significant update from the UK Government and the Motor Insurers’ Bureau of Ireland (MIBI) on the requirement for Green Cards for those driving their Irish registered vehicles in Northern Ireland or other parts of the UK in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit.

In advance of the 31st October Brexit deadline, the UK Department for Transport has confirmed they will now accept valid Irish motor insurance discs from Irish registered vehicles as proof of insurance.

Given the significant number of Green Card requests we had received from customers who were taking steps to prepare for a potential ‘no deal’ Brexit, we wanted to share this positive development with you.

So, in the event of a ‘no deal’ Brexit, as long as your Irish registered vehicle has a valid Irish insurance disc, you will not need a Green Card when travelling to Northern Ireland or other parts of the UK.

The Famous Five would be shouting "Hurrah,Hurrah!!" and drinking lemonade about now!
Did George ever come out of the closet ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Lizzzy on September 16, 2019, 09:16:39 AM
Living With Lucy, was shit last night.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 16, 2019, 10:17:25 AM
How ever did we get from the brwxodus to this ???
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 16, 2019, 10:19:55 AM
Bohs were robbed on Friday, Dalyer..........why were the fans singing anti-Rovers songs when they were playing Waterford?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 16, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
And Pat's fckud up again against the mighty UCD
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 16, 2019, 10:47:03 AM
And Pat's fckud up again against the mighty UCD

Pats are a fucking Joke a Cabaret Club .Hear they intend to play a double header home and away against the Dickie Rock Allstars First leg at Richmond second leg in the NationalBallroom .Pats are to football what Nuns are to sex .I have an Old players Jersey Autoglass DHL sponsor about 20 years old if you want it .You being a FAN .Shed end invincibles ot Tom Tavey Drinking Club both the same thing .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 16, 2019, 11:00:15 AM
And Pat's fckud up again against the mighty UCD

Pats are a fucking Joke a Cabaret Club .Hear they intend to play a double header home and away against the Dickie Rock Allstars First leg at Richmond second leg in the NationalBallroom .Pats are to football what Nuns are to sex .I have an Old players Jersey Autoglass DHL sponsor about 20 years old if you want it .You being a FAN .Shed end invincibles ot Tom Tavey Drinking Club both the same thing .
Jasus John didn't know you played for the Super Saints 20 Years ago
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 16, 2019, 12:44:48 PM
Didnt play for them Bought the Jersey in a charity auction for a local lad fundraiser .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 16, 2019, 02:42:18 PM
John your a bleedin pantmime. I love your posts
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 16, 2019, 02:43:20 PM
Why did the Bohs fans sing about Rovers on Fri dalyer?...I'm a northsider and I can't understand it at all?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 16, 2019, 02:51:29 PM
Why did the Bohs fans sing about Rovers on Fri dalyer?...I'm a northsider and I can't understand it at all?
Probably because they didn't know any Anti Brexit songs, seriously I think its got to do with the major rivalry/hatred between the Bohs and the Rovers and they probably ran out of songs to sing.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 17, 2019, 07:05:43 AM
Why did the Bohs fans sing about Rovers on Fri dalyer?...I'm a northsider and I can't understand it at all?
Probably because they didn't know any Anti Brexit songs, seriously I think its got to do with the major rivalry/hatred between the Bohs and the Rovers and they probably ran out of songs to sing.
Maybe because they meet in the next round (semi-final) of the FAI cup ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 17, 2019, 07:18:44 AM
Why did the Bohs fans sing about Rovers on Fri dalyer?...I'm a northsider and I can't understand it at all?
Probably because they didn't know any Anti Brexit songs, seriously I think its got to do with the major rivalry/hatred between the Bohs and the Rovers and they probably ran out of songs to sing.

Makes no sense. Never heard Liverpool singing anti-Utd songs when they were playing Everton or Spurs etc. Bohs beat Crumlin so they'll have good reason to sing them next game alright.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 17, 2019, 07:22:03 AM
We sing anti rovers songs because we hate the Southside scum
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 17, 2019, 07:22:14 AM
John your a bleedin pantmime. I love your posts
You should come to Cork in January fer the Xmas bash DM and see the man Live !

Jan 2018;
Xmas party starts in a fancy suburban pub which features a carvery and an exclusive prosecco menu, no one was delighted to be there so we moved on it to town about 3pm, we arrive at Coughlan's on Douglas street and make our entrance, John M walks in the door behind me and exclaims out loud in his very best Dooblin accent; "AHH, SUR' DIS IS A GRAND BOOZER, YA CAN SMELL DE TAWLET 'N ALL !".
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 17, 2019, 07:27:09 AM
We sing anti rovers songs because we hate the Southside scum
You do seem to do a lot of 'Hating' DM ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 17, 2019, 07:32:42 AM
I would actually pay to see him if he appeared at the laughter lounge. His posts are brilliant. I especially loved the one about the two brothers singing Noreen Bawn here John, what do you think about your woman Jo Swinton saying if the lib dems win next election she with cancel brexit WIRHOUT a referendum ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 17, 2019, 09:26:11 AM
We sing anti rovers songs because we hate the Southside scum

The Tolka Park boys will be chasing you lads down next yr.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 17, 2019, 10:53:20 AM
I would actually pay to see him if he appeared at the laughter lounge. His posts are brilliant. I especially loved the one about the two brothers singing Noreen Bawn here John, what do you think about your woman Jo Swinton saying if the lib dems win next election she with cancel brexit WIRHOUT a referendum ?
Come to Cork ?   See him Live !  Definately one of the Funniest men that I have ever met.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 17, 2019, 11:09:25 AM
I would actually pay to see him if he appeared at the laughter lounge. His posts are brilliant. I especially loved the one about the two brothers singing Noreen Bawn here John, what do you think about your woman Jo Swinton saying if the lib dems win next election she with cancel brexit WIRHOUT a referendum ?
Come to Cork ?   See him Live !  Definately one of the Funniest men that I have ever met.

Seriously Ken....are you under the inFluence!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 17, 2019, 11:27:37 AM
UP to 12,000 jobs could be lost in the motor industry if there is a no-deal Brexit and the government increases Vehicle Registration Tax in the Budget, a leading economist predicted today.

Economist Jim Power warned that even with no Vehicle Registration Tax (VRT) increases and a ‘soft Brexit’ there will still be a slump in new-car sales and a risk to jobs.

He said the industry was “in the most vulnerable place” since the recession of 2008.

Mr Power was heading up a major pre-Budget campaign by the Society of the Irish Motor Industry (SIMI) aimed at persuading the government to hold off on any changes to the VRT system for 2020 while tackling the avalanche of used imports.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 17, 2019, 11:39:23 AM
Watching the Courtmartial of Boris .Its fucking brilliant to watch these guys they pick just one sentence from a whole case to make their case .I remember reading about the taxi dereg they quoted the ministers right to licence certain Vets to inject Bull Spunk while other Vets were banned even though they were licenced vets .One of the refrences to Boris closing parliament is related to the price of Milk .(Not Brexit bread prices ).If they Rule Boris is a devious bastard then he must resign .The Supreme Court are in the Shit if they Rule against Boris they are also saying the Queen is a silly bitch for not knowing better .For that reason I think it unlikely they will find for Miller .The Old Boys Network will need to sing the Old Etonion SchoolSongs togesther .Unlike the Dail if it was suspended .You could see Mattie Mc Grath and the Kerry Brothers outside on the Plinth in Kildare Street singing .Mursheen Durking Sure Im sick and tired of working as they make their way around to O Donoughues for Crubeens and Pints .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 17, 2019, 11:47:20 AM
The man who started it all, or who took the credit for it anyway, Cameron, has fucked a hand-grenade in...............there'll have to be a 2nd ref....and enter Farage and his E.U. lackey/ fuckwit mates to ensure a splitting of the John Bull vote............no Brexit....Boris is paid to play his part in upending the whole charade. Ted Heath hung them all out to dry.............Cameron's role was even more nefarious than Satan's lovechild, Tony B Liar.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 17, 2019, 11:56:50 AM
They dont need Brexit anymore  £ was devalued by 34% big British industry borrowed Dollars  will now pay off their sterling debt with borrowed dollars .Berexit revoked or soft ,soft soft kick the can and pound bounces back then British industry repays the Dollars they borrowed .This is nomore than 3 card monty .Look as how much the Euro has fallen against the Dollar after Brexit .Is it any wonder Trump is crying foul Brits and EU are devaluing their currencies by stelth .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 17, 2019, 12:40:59 PM
No Brexit so....what a white elephant.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 17, 2019, 12:50:36 PM
No Brexit so....what a white elephant.

I dont know if its going to be No but the Money men have already done their business .Boris stil says he wont ask for an extension .So whats left Cancel ,Crash or referendum. Boris looked for a General Election probably hopeing that he would lose and Corbin or Yer one from the Crankies would revoke or referendum tosave the day and he could say they fucked it up .I see Leos lads are going to tell us what they will do on All Soles Day if Brexit goes ahead.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: stonethecrows on September 17, 2019, 01:36:44 PM
NO BREXIT , waste of 77 pages
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 17, 2019, 01:47:16 PM
NO BREXIT , waste of 77 pages

Maybe, STC..hardly a waste though....maybe this whole pile of shite stopped 3 men from topping themselves? Asked a young American lady from Facebook in Dublin if she knew how much money was being diverted from Eire to Facebook Holdings, U.S. Caymans........She told me she didn't know if diverted was an appropriate term to use........... rofl
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 17, 2019, 03:10:00 PM
I would actually pay to see him if he appeared at the laughter lounge. His posts are brilliant. I especially loved the one about the two brothers singing Noreen Bawn here John, what do you think about your woman Jo Swinton saying if the lib dems win next election she with cancel brexit WIRHOUT a referendum ?

Just watching the Scots woman on telly telling Britain she is going to save them from themselves .Im sure English men with tattoos and scars are alldelighted she is their saviour .She reminds me of an Ann Summers naughty Nicker saleswoman .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 17, 2019, 05:31:37 PM
Brilliant ha ha
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 17, 2019, 05:43:36 PM
Government make their case in supreme Court tomorrow , result Friday what way will it go John ? Will Boris win , or that cunt Miller ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 17, 2019, 09:40:27 PM
Windy Miller?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 17, 2019, 09:42:49 PM
I think they will decide in Boris Favour .Court cant really say the Queen is a stupit cunt .But if the Executive can Porogue Parliament for as long as they like then they could Porogue for the whole five year term if they wanted to .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 17, 2019, 10:15:04 PM
I think the issue is more to do with WHY parliment was prorgued rather then anything else millers crowd say it was done to stop them asking Boris awkward questions, while Boris says it was for Lizzy's speech
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 17, 2019, 11:11:37 PM
I think the issue is more to do with WHY parliment was prorgued rather then anything else millers crowd say it was done to stop them asking Boris awkward questions, while Boris says it was for Lizzy's speech

The issue is does the Executive (Government have the right 0r not ) To put it simple your hen says she is closing her legs for a month .Do you have the right to rape her because you dont like what she said .Thats sort of what the arguement is .The MPs want to rape the government because they dont like what they did.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 18, 2019, 10:35:23 AM
That's some analogy John,ye need to get back on a Pat Kenny telly show and try that one on for size with a half living audience.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 18, 2019, 10:43:17 AM
Jaysus, and they said Brolly was controversial........
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 11:19:07 AM
Sir James Eadie .If Big Dommo had of had him as his brief he would of never got dont for that thing .These guys are dynamite they could probably make the case that you dont exist even if you were standing in front of them poking them with a sharp stick.But what you learn watching these guys is that the more money you have the better you can be represented .Dont see any Free Legal Aid Solicitors representing this case .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 11:31:28 AM
Dollymount .I have been watching the Supreme Court Case and trying to play judge .A very serious issue I see but has not been focused on .If the Courts decide to wash their hands of this .Then there is nothing to stop any Prime Minister in future from Picking his Ministers in the first few weeks after a General Election them Poroguing parliament for the next 5 years .For that reason I cant see the Courts giving up the Role of Fair Arbiters between people and Parliament .With that in Mind Imnow thinking the Supreme Court might decide that they have juristriction to rule .I think they will rule AGAINST the government .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 11:49:06 AM
That's some analogy John,ye need to get back on a Pat Kenny telly show and try that one on for size with a half living audience.

I havent been asked back to RTE after I made a fool out of Professor Alan Aherne you remember him the Kid that advised Biffo and Bertie of financial matters .While he had a comfortable seat on the Stage I was stuck in an audience seat .When I proposed to the University Professor  and Government Adviser that the ECB would print money .He the Expert and Academic Adviser told me the uneducated Taxi Driver that I was wrong the ECB COULD NOT PRINT money to feed the system it was against their rules One of us was absolutely Correct the other one was a schoolteacher .If advice had of been made available to the Government that the ECB COULD print money then the ECB could of printed to bail out the IRISH Banks as they bailed out every other Bank in Europe by filling their vaults with freshly printed money by buying bonds .I havent been invited on Radio either after I explained the Fiscal Treaty to Ross and Donnolly and told them they were voting for and promoting poverty being written into the constitution by supporting the spending limits imposed by the Bill .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 18, 2019, 11:55:52 AM
Here John,

If a man is a fool, you don't train him out of being a fool by sending him to university. You merely turn him into a trained fool...10 times more dangerous.

-Desmond Begley. I totally agree with him.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 18, 2019, 11:59:21 AM
The only time I saw ye on the telly box John...think it was Pat Kenny....don't remember you lecturing anyone but I do have a recollection of you stutterin and splutterin like an Austin A40 on a cold damp morn!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 18, 2019, 12:01:59 PM
That's some analogy John,ye need to get back on a Pat Kenny telly show and try that one on for size with a half living audience.

I havent been asked back to RTE after I made a fool out of Professor Alan Aherne you remember him the Kid that advised Biffo and Bertie of financial matters .While he had a comfortable seat on the Stage I was stuck in an audience seat .When I proposed to the University Professor  and Government Adviser that the ECB would print money .He the Expert and Academic Adviser told me the uneducated Taxi Driver that I was wrong the ECB COULD NOT PRINT money to feed the system it was against their rules One of us was absolutely Correct the other one was a schoolteacher .If advice had of been made available to the Government that the ECB COULD print money then the ECB could of printed to bail out the IRISH Banks as they bailed out every other Bank in Europe by filling their vaults with freshly printed money by buying bonds .I havent been invited on Radio either after I explained the Fiscal Treaty to Ross and Donnolly and told them they were voting for and promoting poverty being written into the constitution by supporting the spending limits imposed by the Bill .

The day after The Dubs 5-in-a-row, give or take, RTE spent license payers' money on a programme about Dublin's GAA successes which they inaccurately claimed was down to funding...They chose Miriam "Rugger Groupie" O'C to front it with a bitter Mayo mong, Kevin McStay as the front-man....I'd say RTE is rightly fucked and won't be around past in 3 yrs time. This woman earns over 300k p.a. as a pithy, faux go-to girl with the people skills of a rabid pit-bull...she knows nowt about football or soccer............Tom McGuirk could tell a tale or two..............total D4 luvvie ever-present in Le Coq Hardi and Roly's....I give up.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 18, 2019, 12:07:37 PM
With the amount of chisslers she has i'd say she's seen plenty of Le Coq Hardi and the 300k per annum wouldn't cover the boarding school fees...darling....probably!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 18, 2019, 12:09:20 PM
With the amount of chisslers she has i'd say she's seen plenty of Le Coq Hardi and the 300k per annum wouldn't cover the boarding school fees...darling....probably!!

Probably Hal, but it's like a putting Marc Almond in charge of a hetero orgy....apples and oranges.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 12:10:38 PM
The only time I saw ye on the telly box John...think it was Pat Kenny....don't remember you lecturing anyone but I do have a recollection of you stutterin and splutterin like an Austin A40 on a cold damp morn!

That was Irelands Got Talent I was doing my Car impressions .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 12:14:33 PM
European Parliament Just voted to offer an extension to article 50 if Boris asks .Now what will he do .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 18, 2019, 01:24:23 PM
I thought if there was ANY opposition from ANY of the 27,then no extension.? Enlighten me John
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 01:28:21 PM
I thought if there was ANY opposition from ANY of the 27,then no extension.? Enlighten me John

Parliament vote is about as usefull as you or me voicing our opinion .The Council or 27 leaders willdecide not the Parliament .The EU parliament is one of the only parliaments in the world that CANNOT write Laws they can only rubber stamp the Commission.EU Perliamentarians are about as usefull as wankers with their arms handkuffed behind their backs .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 18, 2019, 02:55:44 PM
So if only ONE country from the 27 say no then no extension ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 03:00:37 PM
So if only ONE country from the 27 say no then no extension ?

NO country will say No they will all try to capture the Brits in a web of Eurocrap .If Boris dosent Jump they wont push him .Still think he and his government will resign .Parliament said the PRIME MINISTER MUST ASK if there is no Prime Minister to ask then the default is Brexit on the 31st .

I still hope they see logic and abandon Brexit .If they Crash out lives will be lost .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 05:19:44 PM
Judges ask Boris "Whats the story bud ,will you just act the bollox if we tell you to openup Parliament and close it a few minutes after you do what we told you ....Sep.18

 -- Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s lawyer James Eadie promised the Supreme Court the government will file a statement overnight on what it plans to do if it loses the landmark case to decide whether its suspension of Parliament was lawful. Justice Marjorie Hale said it would be “entirely inconvenient” if the statement wasn’t provided before the hearings end.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 18, 2019, 05:25:41 PM
Entirely inconvenient ? Well that sounds like the court is asking Boris to appease the cunt Miller
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 05:39:48 PM
Dalymount did you notice I stopped calling you Dollymount anyhoo .I think Boris is out of his debt his choices are down to two .He and his Government resign that gives Corbyn or any other MP the chance to form a government Or Go Nuke and Crash out probably be Taken to Court and if he is found to have acted illegally then the Brexit might be deemed Illegal .My best bet he and his government resign .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 18, 2019, 05:47:39 PM
"Entirely inconvenient ?"  That's just the way the lawyers talk in court.  Can't be seen to be dissing your colleagues.



The judges are sceptical of the Govt's position.  At one stage, the judges asked why no-one swore the Cabinet minutes setting out the prorogue reasons was a true statement. 

But, having said that, I think the Govt might win it.  Their lawyer said Govt is allowed to prorogue and that the other side agrees with that.  He said they're arguing over the length of suspension.  And he argued the courts can't rule on that since it's like asking how long is a piece of string. 

The court might allow Govt to get away with it but suggest that the law is changed in future to define how long prorogation can be?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 05:52:34 PM
You could be right with your last line .Cant see the Judges giving away any of their Power by ruling they dont have the Power .A ruling today will last well past tomorrow so they might try to play two ends against the middle .They cant really rule the Queen was silly to buy Boris crap .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 18, 2019, 05:56:26 PM
@ John M, re Boris' options.

There might be another one.  In an interview, the Scottish QC who won the case in Scotland said there was a flaw in the new law saying Boris had to go ask for an extension.  He said the flaw was that it only said he had to ask for the extension - he could then simply ignore whatever the EU said and just wait until 31st Oct and BREXIT happens automatically.  Something like that anyways...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 05:57:50 PM
Et Tu Borris .Who will be the Minister that stabbs Boris First .Mick Gove owes him so does Rabb .If the beeks tell him toopen up the Gaff does he have to go ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 06:00:10 PM
@ John M, re Boris' options.

There might be another one.  In an interview, the Scottish QC who won the case in Scotland said there was a flaw in the new law saying Boris had to go ask for an extension.  He said the flaw was that it only said he had to ask for the extension - he could then simply ignore whatever the EU said and just wait until 31st Oct and BREXIT happens automatically.  Something like that anyways...


I think we pointed that out somewhere on this tread .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 18, 2019, 06:04:07 PM
 lol  The thread is 79 pages long - I'd say the third secret of Fatima is in here somewhere too!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 06:05:46 PM
lol  The thread is 79 pages long - I'd say the third secret of Fatima is in here somewhere too!

I didnt post it but Lip might of .I was going to post a recipe for Bread just in case the Loaf went up after Brexit .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 06:19:49 PM
A few questions fer the Brexit Boffins ?

Question 1;

Will Britain leave the EU on 31st Oct, with or without a deal ?

Question 2;
If they go fer the extension, will they leave in 3 months time, with or without a deal ?

Question 3;
Will there ever be a 2nd Brexit referendum ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 06:21:07 PM
Fer me;

It's No, No, Yes.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 06:24:55 PM
They are three easy questions Kenneth the answer is Yes and No .Nobody has a clue not even the Governments .Its an omnifuckup its down to bullheadedness now who blinks first or who is the biggest bluffer .Ireland and Leo are squirming like a baby hung on a hook in a butchers window .While the Brits are marching off to war and the EU have dug a hole for themselves and cant stop digging .We might need a Bobby Ewing moment where Boris walks out of the shower and its all a dream (Dallas ref)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 18, 2019, 06:38:30 PM
Question 1;
Will Britain leave the EU on 31st Oct, with or without a deal ?

The law until recently was that the default action was the UK leaves the EU on 31st Oct (deal or no deal).  Then Parliament brought in a new law that said Boris had to ask the EU for an extension by mid-Oct (17th?) if there was no deal by that stage.  So, in theory, there will be an extension if no deal is done.  But, as pointed out above, one theory is that he could ask for a extension, ignore the reply and then the UK would leave the EU automatically on 31st Oct because it's already on the statue books.

You might as well flip a coin for answers to the other 2 questions. 

FWIW, The EU parliament today had a non-binding symbolic vote that they would give the UK an extension if they asked for one.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 06:43:47 PM
Question 1;
Will Britain leave the EU on 31st Oct, with or without a deal ?

The law until recently was that the default action was the UK leaves the EU on 31st Oct (deal or no deal).  Then Parliament brought in a new law that said Boris had to ask the EU for an extension by mid-Oct (17th?) if there was no deal by that stage.  So, in theory, there will be an extension if no deal is done.  But, as pointed out above, one theory is that he could ask for a extension, ignore the reply and then the UK would leave the EU automatically on 31st Oct because it's already on the statue books.

You might as well flip a coin for answers to the other 2 questions. 

FWIW, The EU parliament today had a non-binding symbolic vote that they would give the UK an extension if they asked for one.
I know all that Watty, but what is your guess on the Three proposed questions ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 06:45:59 PM
They are three easy questions Kenneth the answer is Yes and No .Nobody has a clue not even the Governments ......
That is Two answers to Three questions John M !
All I'm asking fer is your honest guess, Have another go !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 06:48:07 PM
My guess Boris resigns with his government gives somebody else a chance to sort it .So there will be an extentionthen a General election with the big parties promising OUT or Second referendum .Its a total fuck up.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 06:48:35 PM
A few questions fer the Brexit Boffins ?
(Simple Answers will suffice !)

Question 1;

Will Britain leave the EU on 31st Oct, with or without a deal ?

Question 2;
If they go fer the extension, will they leave in 3 months time, with or without a deal ?

Question 3;
Will there ever be a 2nd Brexit referendum ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 06:53:09 PM
My guess Boris resigns with his government gives somebody else a chance to sort it .So there will be an extentionthen a General election with the big parties promising OUT or Second referendum .Its a total fuck up.
Grand, I got it, I too know it's all a Fook-up !
Now answer the Fookin questions !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 18, 2019, 07:07:05 PM
A few questions fer the Brexit Boffins ?

Question 1;

Will Britain leave the EU on 31st Oct, with or without a deal ?

Question 2;
If they go fer the extension, will they leave in 3 months time, with or without a deal ?

Question 3;
Will there ever be a 2nd Brexit referendum ?
No
Yes
Yes

Boris will win in the Supreme Court.  Parliament will reconvene & there'll be more defections which will result in Boris going for an election/vote of confidence*.  He'll lose to some sort of coalition* and an extension will be sought.  The EU will give it but the UK is hopelessly divided so they won't sort it out in 3 months.  The EU presidency changes soon and the new president (German) will want to get rid of the problem as it's not *her* problem.  Her priorities will be recession in Germany/worldwide, Trump trade tariffs agin Europe and a probable Middle East war.  So after Xmas, the EU will tell the UK to fukk off.


* Maybe not an election per se but after a vote of no confidence (or similar) in the Govt, the Queen will ask some sort of coalition to take over.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 07:23:39 PM
Boris resigns (through resignation or proposing a vote f confidence in his own government and they abstain in the vote )Then Corbyn has 14 days toform a government or thee is a general election .Britain wont leave on the 31st There Will not be a Three mont extension the extension will be for ever with no limit .There wont be a second referendum .After the Election If Conservatives win they will crash out if Labour win they will doa deal and let the people vote to accept or reject it but it wont be a secvond referendum .So For the Stupid who asked the Question multiple times .NO,NO and NO ,are the answers to the Questions .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 07:27:47 PM
Strange answers Watty, you reckon they will get an extension and will leave after the extension, but also believe there will be a 2nd referendum as per your No Yes Yes reply.
Fer me that does not add up but your entitled to your opinion.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 07:40:16 PM
Boris resigns (through resignation or proposing a vote f confidence in his own government and they abstain in the vote )Then Corbyn has 14 days toform a government or thee is a general election .Britain wont leave on the 31st There Will not be a Three mont extension the extension will be for ever with no limit .There wont be a second referendum .After the Election If Conservatives win they will crash out if Labour win they will doa deal and let the people vote to accept or reject it but it wont be a secvond referendum .So For the Stupid who asked the Question multiple times .NO,NO and NO ,are the answers to the Questions .
Thanks eventually fer your answers ya Ugly Pox, I nearly had ta Fookin beat them outta yiz !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 18, 2019, 07:41:20 PM
A few questions fer the Brexit Boffins ?

Question 1;

Will Britain leave the EU on 31st Oct, with or without a deal ?

Question 2;
If they go fer the extension, will they leave in 3 months time, with or without a deal ?

Question 3;
Will there ever be a 2nd Brexit referendum ?
No
Yes
Yes

Strange answers Watty, you reckon they will get an extension and will leave after the extension, but also believe there will be a 2nd referendum as per your No Yes Yes reply.
Fer me that does not add up but your entitled to your opinion.

Not so confusing.
There will be one extension which will get the UK past Xmas.
There will be a referendum before Xmas which won't solve the problem.
They won't leave voluntarily but they'll be fukked out by the EU by March/April/May 2020 (edit -->) Because the new German EU president will have new, more urgent things to worry about...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 07:43:35 PM
Boris resigns (through resignation or proposing a vote f confidence in his own government and they abstain in the vote )Then Corbyn has 14 days toform a government or thee is a general election .Britain wont leave on the 31st There Will not be a Three mont extension the extension will be for ever with no limit .There wont be a second referendum .After the Election If Conservatives win they will crash out if Labour win they will doa deal and let the people vote to accept or reject it but it wont be a secvond referendum .So For the Stupid who asked the Question multiple times .NO,NO and NO ,are the answers to the Questions .
Thanks eventually fer your answers ya Ugly Pox, I nearly had ta Fookin beat them outta yiz !

Glad to oblige Kenneth .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 07:46:25 PM
Boris resigns (through resignation or proposing a vote f confidence in his own government and they abstain in the vote )Then Corbyn has 14 days toform a government or thee is a general election .Britain wont leave on the 31st There Will not be a Three mont extension the extension will be for ever with no limit .There wont be a second referendum .After the Election If Conservatives win they will crash out if Labour win they will doa deal and let the people vote to accept or reject it but it wont be a secvond referendum .So For the Stupid who asked the Question multiple times .NO,NO and NO ,are the answers to the Questions .
Thanks eventually fer your answers ya Ugly Pox, I nearly had ta Fookin beat them outta yiz !

Glad to oblige Kenneth .
Cheers John M  ::cheers
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 07:51:15 PM
I read in the paper thousands of Brit part worn motors being imported before the budget .A lot of them wont get the VRT paid in time If Paggo ups it it willbe from midnight on budget day ,might be a few surprises for some importers .Sales of new cars in Ireland are down nearly 30% this year as Partworns flood in so Paggo needs to get the same tax take from part worns as he is losing on sales of new motors .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 07:56:23 PM
Not so confusing.
There will be one extension which will get the UK past Xmas.
There will be a referendum before Xmas which won't solve the problem.
They won't leave voluntarily but they'll be fukked out by the EU by March/April/May 2020, Because the new German EU president will have new, more urgent things to worry about...
I hope your right Watty because betting wise I'm all over the 2nd referendum at 5/2 prior to 2020, currently now trading at 25/1.
John M stated before that if a UK referendum is announced then it must be announced 90 days prior to polling date, so if'n that is true it makes a 2nd Brexit referendum in 2019 highly unlikely.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 08:08:59 PM
SCORES ON THE DOORS !

A few questions fer the Brexit Boffins ?
(Simple Answers will suffice !)

Question 1;

Will Britain leave the EU on 31st Oct, with or without a deal ?

Question 2;
If they go fer the extension, will they leave in 3 months time, with or without a deal ?

Question 3;
Will there ever be a 2nd Brexit referendum ?

Current Quotes;
Belker/Ken; No, No, Yes.
Watty; No, Yes, Yes.
John M; No, No, No.

@ DM and LL, your next up to Bat ?
All others welcome to join in.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 18, 2019, 08:13:24 PM
You're mad to be betting on this.

Anyways... I don't know if the 'Institute for Government' is impartial but 21 weeks is, say, 5 months?  Nov + 5 months = March/April 2020?

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/second-referendum-brexit (https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/second-referendum-brexit)
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Past practice provides a guide to the stages for a further referendum. The first step would be the drafting and introduction of legislation to enable a referendum to take place. The bill would then need to pass through Parliament: this took seven months in the case of the 2016 referendum, but the process would have to happen much more quickly in current circumstances.

The Electoral Commission normally takes up to 12 weeks to test the proposed question but this could also be curtailed. The Constitution Unit thinks this task could be completed in a minimum of eight weeks, and that Parliament could complete the legislative process in a further three weeks if necessary. The length of the referendum campaign would also be specified in legislation. The formal, regulated referendum period must last a minimum of 10 weeks, under the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act (PPERA).

A fair estimate is that the whole process would take a minimum of 21 weeks, but this would be much shorter than other recent referendums.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 08:24:46 PM
You're mad to be betting on this.

Anyways... I don't know if the 'Institute for Government' is impartial but 21 weeks is, say, 5 months?  Nov + 5 months = March/April 2020?

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/second-referendum-brexit (https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/second-referendum-brexit)
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Past practice provides a guide to the stages for a further referendum. The first step would be the drafting and introduction of legislation to enable a referendum to take place. The bill would then need to pass through Parliament: this took seven months in the case of the 2016 referendum, but the process would have to happen much more quickly in current circumstances.

The Electoral Commission normally takes up to 12 weeks to test the proposed question but this could also be curtailed. The Constitution Unit thinks this task could be completed in a minimum of eight weeks, and that Parliament could complete the legislative process in a further three weeks if necessary. The length of the referendum campaign would also be specified in legislation. The formal, regulated referendum period must last a minimum of 10 weeks, under the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act (PPERA).

A fair estimate is that the whole process would take a minimum of 21 weeks, but this would be much shorter than other recent referendums.
Do you wish to changes your guesses Watty ?
A 24 hour window of change/grace period is allowed.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 18, 2019, 08:25:46 PM
I hope your right Watty because betting wise I'm all over the 2nd referendum at 5/2 prior to 2020, currently now trading at 25/1.
I'm not a gambling person (Euromillions aside*) but there's the old saying that bookies never lose.  Which I'm sure you understand...

You got in at 5/2 ( very roughly 2/1) and now it's gone out to 'never gonna happen' at 25/1 (50/2).  Am I understanding that right?



*  I'll buy a Euromillions ticket with the change in my pocket but I almost never buy a Lotto ticket because I'd have to use a €5 note (which is 'real' money).  I've known too many people got caught up with gambling and searching phone boxes (remember them!) for money...
 
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 18, 2019, 08:34:23 PM
Do you wish to changes your guesses Watty ?
A 24 hour window of change/grace period is allowed.
Not so confusing.
There will be one extension which will get the UK past Xmas.
There will be a referendum before Xmas which won't solve the problem.
They won't leave voluntarily but they'll be fukked out by the EU by March/April/May 2020 (edit -->) Because the new German EU president will have new, more urgent things to worry about...
The timing might change but I'll stick with what the broad thrust of what I've written...

The new EU President will change the dynamic on the EU side... Juncker (the current President until 31 Oct) wants a legacy so he's hoping for a deal but the new President (von der Leyen *German*, 1st Nov) will want a clean sheet.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 18, 2019, 08:36:14 PM
What would the Question in any referendum be .Boris wants a General Election only way to get that is to resign but Boris might get Et Tu by his own Brutus .If he proposes a vote of No Confidence in himself and his Government Mick Gove will probably challenge him for leader of the Conservative party .As Gove was not beaten in the head to head the Party might anoint him to lead them into a General Election.Boris has put all his eggs in out by 31st Oct that if he fails to deliver you would think the knives will be out for him.the ERG and the Brexiteers will fight in the Carpark at No 10 .Its amusing to watch them falling apart but its serious shit for this Stone in a puddle of a country .Dont think there is any chance of a second referendum this year .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 09:51:10 PM
I hope your right Watty because betting wise I'm all over the 2nd referendum at 5/2 prior to 2020, currently now trading at 25/1.
I'm not a gambling person (Euromillions aside*) but there's the old saying that bookies never lose.  Which I'm sure you understand...

You got in at 5/2 ( very roughly 2/1) and now it's gone out to 'never gonna happen' at 25/1 (50/2).  Am I understanding that right?



*  I'll buy a Euromillions ticket with the change in my pocket but I almost never buy a Lotto ticket because I'd have to use a €5 note (which is 'real' money).  I've known too many people got caught up with gambling and searching phone boxes (remember them!) for money...
I know my bet is Lost, It looked good at the time @ 3.50 and traded the next day at 2.50 but has since declined in value to 26.00.
I still reckon there will be a 2nd referendum but not before 2020.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 18, 2019, 10:29:46 PM
The whole brexit crisis is down to the remainer obstructionists MPS who refused to carry out the mandate they were instructed to by their elecrrote. This is a complete deniel of democracy, and is also the reason I took my name off the voting registrar
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 18, 2019, 10:43:57 PM
The whole brexit crisis is down to the remainer obstructionists MPS who refused to carry out the mandate they were instructed to by their elecrrote. This is a complete deniel of democracy, and is also the reason I took my name off the voting registrar
So your informed educated guesses DM on the above simple 3 Brexit predictions are ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 08:41:08 AM
Watching the Supreme Court yesterday our Kid says what you watching ?I tell her she gives me a blank Cop the Fuck on Look and says What ? .I say its Father Ted for people with a Leaving Cert .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 19, 2019, 08:49:14 AM
For what it's worth I'm going along with Belker........no...no...no but they'll move the goalposts before too long.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 08:57:09 AM
For what it's worth I'm going along with Belker........no...no...no but they'll move the goalposts before too long.

Your agreeing with Me Lip not Belker .I see Boris has told the UDA to go fuck themselves he dosent need them .Arlene was only short of wearing a Rainbow Thong last night in the Four Seasons as she begged Leo to help her and his Protestant Neighbours to Back Down gracefully as Boris tried to sacrifice them for Five More Years in No 10...Brexit Goalposts are Fitted with Honda 50 engines they are very moveable .Reece Mogg ,Farage,and Franswar will be trowing their toys at their Nannies if Boris abandons the Good Loyal UDA .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 19, 2019, 09:03:14 AM
John, if the working-class prod ever discovers the truth about who started the UDA and UVF...the 40 yr old Presbyterian, Belfast Granny will be out piking her local peeler to death. I like Arlene..typical farmer's daughter with a weightlifter's pelvis and hind quarters...I'd say she'd tear the average Fenian Casanova to ribbons within 5 mins.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 19, 2019, 09:24:52 AM
Not a bad singer either
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 19, 2019, 09:27:47 AM
C'Mon Arlene?.........Dalyer's midnight trainers.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 19, 2019, 09:37:37 AM
I really hope the supreme Court rule in favour of Boris, I hate that foreign cunt Miller
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 09:42:03 AM
Your Brit and Yankee Prod was all about the Coin .Arlene will stick to form and follow the Coin .Brits EU Yanks and Leo promise to keep paying Terrorists to work as Community Leaders and Arlene will fold .BUT The Moggies ,Farage and Francois might see this as a sell out by Bobo and the first step in the break up of the Fudal Monarchy .Just because Arlene and the UDA do a No Surrender Loyalist Style dosent mean Boris can get it through Parliament and Keep his Party togeather and thats what its all about Keeping the Conservative and UNIONIST Party togeather (i think )
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 19, 2019, 09:51:46 AM
The E.U. is attempting to Balkanize Britain........exactly what Clinton did in the former Yugoslavia. When the American Civil War started several U.S. businessmen had realised the "Union" was growing too fast......General Lee wiped out thousands of his own at Gettysburg because the partitionists were hammering the Yanks...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 09:58:41 AM
The UK will split inside ten years .Jockland willleave and Norn Eireann willprobably become a federal state of Britain as it transitions to a United Ireland in a hundred years or so .Expect the Isle of Man to try declare independence and become a tax haven the Hong Kong of Europe .The last man out of london can blow out the candle .Britain is broken Brexit wont fix it .Britain needs another War to unite the country .If I was Iran I would be worried .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 19, 2019, 10:20:45 AM
The Yanks stole from, or were given all their technological war gadgets (by) Germany. ZE Huns fucked it all up at the Battle of Kursk when they lost 3/4's of their mechanised forces. I think Boris is like S.S. General Hans Kammler now............hoping all his war crimes against the lefties and cottage-cheese munchers will be wiped out by a new Dulles for atomic knowledge. People forget that Reagan laid a wreath at the graves of S.S. officers in 1985...

If Uncle Sam takes on the warrior tribes of Persia he'll need more than drones and lesbian tank-drivers....Hitler was a non-smoker, non-drinker and vegetarian............not when he was a serving soldier in WW1 though! lol
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 10:27:26 AM
Global warming /Climate Change wipe out a few Billion people .Are thosefires that were going to fry us all last week in Brazil still burning ,all I can get from Brazil now is the Result from the Game Between Santos 2 Corinthians 0 .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 19, 2019, 10:52:16 AM
Global warming /Climate Change wipe out a few Billion people .Are thosefires that were going to fry us all last week in Brazil still burning ,all I can get from Brazil now is the Result from the Game Between Santos 2 Corinthians 0 .

Big fat cockney lad informed me David Icke was the Green Party spokesman in the 90's...............would you believe one word those fascist cunts tell you now? rofl
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 11:07:38 AM
Grandstanding .How many Tory Ministers will Quit at Confrence time .Im hearing from a mate in the UK a lot of the Cabinet are seeing Boris as a liability they realize they made a big mistake choosing him as leader .Im hearing the 1922 committee have been asked if being elected as leader is covered by the same rules as a motion of confidence in the leader and if members are restricted from putting down a motion of no confidence fior one year .If there is a General election then the Leader must be reappointed by the Party but can they dump him now .Watch this space .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 19, 2019, 11:23:04 AM
They'll be digging Maggie up so. Not one of them will want to carry this farce any further. Cameron should be fucked into the Tower of London with Freddie West, Harold Shipman and the cast members from Made in Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 19, 2019, 11:46:35 AM
The cast members of Made in Chelsea?...a bit harsh!!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 19, 2019, 11:51:03 AM
Tropical dahhlin'......
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 01:06:34 PM
Fucking shocking An X  Conservative British Prime Minister attacking another British Conservative Prime Minister .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 01:18:46 PM
David Cameron now just ratted out the Queen for helping with the Jock Referendum ..
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 19, 2019, 01:45:27 PM
There is a router doing the rounds that Boris is offering us half a billion to forget about the backstop John ???
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 02:02:18 PM
There is a router doing the rounds that Boris is offering us half a billion to forget about the backstop John ???

We cant We are in the SINGLE MARKET .We could leave the EU altogeather if the EU and Brits wrote off out National Debt .We would be down billions in tax and hundreds of thousands of jobs .A lot of Foreigners would abandon the sinking ship Leaving Houses ,Hospitals and Schools for the remainers .We would align with the Brits and any deal they get with the world we share.Just like we did before we both joined the EU.The sums are simple after subtracting the national debt and interest payments would we be better off with less people working and less tax income .Half a Billion wouldnt get the whole of Ballyfermot drunk for a week the sum needed would be Quarter of a Trillion 250 Billion ..Not a lot in reality for continued trade within the EU .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 19, 2019, 02:07:19 PM
Our debt is interlinked with the IMF....they have nothing to do with the Brits in principle. The problem is our TD's, some of whom retired on several pensions, sold us into bonded debt covering at lest 3 generations. We can't clear our debts if the Brits step in to save us....and they won't...why the fuck would they after we sold them out to Juncker and La~Garde?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 03:50:29 PM
Technically we would be defaulting but they would never say that .Im sure the rest of the EU would love to see the back of Ireland in the EU we have been nothing but trouble Tax cheating Scumbags If it wasent for the IRISH backstop Brexit would be done if the Euro rose a quarter of a cent in value as a result of us fucking off the cost of our debt would be covered .We are low life tax cheating scum and when the Brits go we are in for a fucking hiding from the rest of the Eu bit like Sad Sammy got kicked around the school yard when his Big brother Dommo left to work with the milk man when he was 12.Just look at the Fucking Redneck Farmers Fell for dereg bought more cows to make meat  and milk nobody wants to pay for .The Banks are going to bankrupt them and sell off their land to the prefered bidder .What a fucking country .Mugabe just took the land our clowns bankrupted themselves .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 19, 2019, 04:20:21 PM
Hére John . If the cunt Miller looses the supreme Court decision, will she have to pick up the tab for the costs ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 19, 2019, 06:17:39 PM
The cunt Miller is of Guyana extract, the cheek of the cunt to take a case against the UK
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 09:02:29 PM
Hére John . If the cunt Miller looses the supreme Court decision, will she have to pick up the tab for the costs ?

No its a challenge in the National interest .Interestingly today the Irish courts refused to rule on a challenge by some Enviro -Mentalists saying the issue was Political and the must respect the seperation of Government and Court .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 19, 2019, 09:23:32 PM
SCORES ON THE DOORS !

A few questions fer the Brexit Boffins ?
(Simple Answers will suffice !)

Question 1;

Will Britain leave the EU on 31st Oct, with or without a deal ?

Question 2;
If they go fer the extension, will they leave in 3 months time, with or without a deal ?

Question 3;
Will there ever be a 2nd Brexit referendum ?

Current Quotes;
Belker/Ken; No, No, Yes.
Watty; No, Yes, Yes.
John M; No, No, No.
Liffey Lip; No, No, No.

@ DM your next up to Bat ?
All others welcome to join in.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 19, 2019, 11:11:33 PM
No yes no
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 19, 2019, 11:28:37 PM
Dalymount try this on for size .Gove Shafted Boris first time round Boris obviously stacked the deck against Gove second time round in the Prime Minister race .Cummings was Goves right hand man in the DEp of Education now he is Borisis main man .Is Cimmings walking Boris into a solid wall of shit so Gove can topple him .On a score of 10 to shit Boris is Shit a totally useless piece of shit .He must be a great dissapointment to everybody .If Corbyn was replaced as Labour Leader by a cardboard box Labour would win a 200 seat majority .Im reading between the lines the Sodomite Prince is being asked to consider Treason to aid the Crown .As I posted if the Fairyprincess sells out this country he will be shot like a dog .His fucking nonsence about Bulletproof  backstops will come back to haunt him.Who sells out .Leo.Boris or Arlene Thats what its coming down too .Who capitulates .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 12:55:33 AM
MY FAVOURITE ECONOMIST  I have read almost everything he wrote ....Nobel prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz severely criticised Ireland at a press conference in Paris on Thursday over taxation of multinational corporations.

“In the area of taxes, Ireland has not behaved well, either globally or for their own citizens, or as an EU citizen,” said the University of Columbia professor.

“It is not [being] a good citizen to try to rob your neighbour. And what Ireland did is it tried to get revenue that would have gone to other European countries to be relocated into Ireland, to take a pittance out of that [in tax] and to do a deal where Apple is perfectly happy because they get their taxes reduced.”

Mr Stiglitz referred to a 2016 decision by the European Commission which said Apple must pay €13 billion in back taxes to Ireland. Both Apple and the Irish Government are challenging that decision.

Apple denies jobs lay behind ‘sweetheart’ Irish tax deal
Fintan O’Toole: Ireland’s Apple appeal is a disastrous miscalculation
Explainer: Apple’s €13bn tax appeal has huge implications

“And who pays?” asked Mr Stiglitz, referring to Ireland’s low corporate tax rate and alleged sweetheart deals accorded to digital giants. “The rest of Europe is paying. You don’t do that to your neighbours, to your partners in the EU. I view Ireland not only as a tax haven. It is not a good citizen of the EU.”

But a few minutes later, Mr Stiglitz relented somewhat.

“I was a little too strong in what I said about Ireland,” he said, laughing. “I was a little shocked that they turned down the €13 billion from Apple. The country needed the money. The view that that would hurt Ireland’s reputation [to accept the payment from Apple]was totally wrong. Unless Ireland wanted to have a reputation as a confirmed tax haven . . . But if it wanted to say we’re going to play by European rules and we are going to be a normal economy, it actually made no sense to turn down that money.”


Source of prosperity
Mr Stiglitz said Ireland’s argument that it is a small country with few natural resources and little industry, whose prosperity relies on investment by multinational corporations is “bogus”.

He said evidence shows that “natural resources are not the basis of economic growth”. And “industry gets located where there are well-educated people, good infrastructure . . . countries like Japan and Korea attracted industries, educated their citizens and there’s no reason why Ireland couldn’t do the same.”


LONG BEFORE A NOBEL WINNING ECONOMIST CALLED IRELAND LOW LIFE SCUMBAGS A TAXI DRIVER BRANDED THE IRISH GOVERNMENT AS SCUMBAGS .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 20, 2019, 06:42:27 AM
They wanted MNCs to come here in the 70's and 80's...they did, and IDA excs were paid handsome sums to solicit on Eire's behalf....they duly obliged...the beast that the EEC created is now the elephant in the room. Macron will show no mercy soon enough and like the good boys that we are, we'll do whatever The Galls (foreigners) tell us.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 20, 2019, 09:22:03 AM
We've sold enough of Ireland to be but strangers in it
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 20, 2019, 09:42:58 AM
I think it's significant that Junker says there can still be a new deal before 31st oct
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 10:54:34 AM
Look at Quinns in the North making more money because it is being run properly ,employing more people yet somebody is annoyed they dragged the manager out of his car and broke his legs and ribs cut his face and doused him in bleach .If anybody up in Norn Eireann feels they have lost out on either side there will be trouble .Unfortunatly for Leo who is not a politician he is a social engineer who gave us Quickie divorce ,Abortion,Gay Marage he has put himself forward as the backstops backpassage and as such will be demonised by everybody .
  Did anybody consider why Boris Porogued the day he did?The following day was to be the second reading of the Northren Ireland Bill that would of forced the DUP to accept abortion and Gay marrage and possibly direct rule .As this session of Parliament has ended these bills now die .Raises the question which would Arlene most likely prefer to put before their voters .A backstop of sorts or the idea that the DUP had fucked up and allowed Abortion and Gay Sex into the Protestant Soviet of Red Handed Ulster .

  Your Prod loves the Coin they might sell out but they will want the Paddies to sell out as well a compromise on both sides to save the Crown wont be welcomed by either side .And as the Poster Boy for Bullet Proof Backstops Leo will become the target for everybodies anger .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 20, 2019, 11:01:01 AM
Maybe you can verify this, John, with your political nous/connections.......I heard earlier on from a Lativian...yes Latvian Dr, that our ex-Minister for the Environment, a certain Mr Kelly allegedly signed into law in 2015 an act that allows for no local consultation to be required in housing people who might be "protected persons".  I was gobsmacked at 2 things: 1...my own ignorance....2..that he knew this because he'd been told by a person living in Brussels. It's not really off topic if you think about it........it has certain relevance.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 20, 2019, 11:14:36 AM
Look at Quinns in the North making more money because it is being run properly ,employing more people yet somebody is annoyed they dragged the manager out of his car and broke his legs and ribs cut his face and doused him in bleach .If anybody up in Norn Eireann feels they have lost out on either side there will be trouble .Unfortunatly for Leo who is not a politician he is a social engineer who gave us Quickie divorce ,Abortion,Gay Marage he has put himself forward as the backstops backpassage and as such will be demonised by everybody .
  Did anybody consider why Boris Porogued the day he did?The following day was to be the second reading of the Northren Ireland Bill that would of forced the DUP to accept abortion and Gay marrage and possibly direct rule .As this session of Parliament has ended these bills now die .Raises the question which would Arlene most likely prefer to put before their voters .A backstop of sorts or the idea that the DUP had fucked up and allowed Abortion and Gay Sex into the Protestant Soviet of Red Handed Ulster .

  Your Prod loves the Coin they might sell out but they will want the Paddies to sell out as well a compromise on both sides to save the Crown wont be welcomed by either side .And as the Poster Boy for Bullet Proof Backstops Leo will become the target for everybodies anger .

The North has always proved to be a thorn in Britannia's arse from the first plantation right up to today. To his/her credit, your average God-fearing Protestant has thus far repelled the advances of Leftism/Marxism with the recent bakery case and other less prominent legal bolloxologies. What makes N.I. distinct from England and Wales is that the Act of Union was never intended to make the Ulster Says No lads feel safe, rather it was to ensure Britain kept control of its valuable ports. The biggest of ships cannot turn in Dublin's port but can in Derry with her Lough Foyle being deeper and wider etc...When the Orange Man sees McBigot and McBowler (esquires) safe-haven for employment, Haarland And Wolfe, going down the tubes, he knows the Brits might be just not looking towards the seas for future transportation needs. J.P. Morgan, the elitist banker, reckoned the Titanic sank because of all the bitterness in the lagging..
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 11:14:58 AM
Im sure we have resiprical arrangements with other nations to house those in police relocation .The wording of such agreements would be open to wide interpretation or understanding or missunderstanding .Iwould think the criteria for housing the unhoused might be the fact that your pal had a vacant hotel in the bowles of nowhere .There were huge grants back in the day to build hotels .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 20, 2019, 11:16:16 AM
He's not my pal. i never heard of this legislative double-cross before..i'm being serious.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 11:22:36 AM
Think about it there were huge grants to build hotels and tax breaks .So hotels were built where they were not wanted .Friends of Friends bought them up for cents on the Dollar now they are opening as hostels for foreign nationals .Clever thing is the owned gets paid a headage fee into HIS bank acount .they refere to it as DIRECT PROVISION meaning the propritor is provided with payment directly by the state cuts out the risk of housing people who might not hand over their housing benifit .You can be sure buyers of these deadbeat hotels had to be guarenteed an income before they would buy them off NAMA or the banks .Its a prime example of Politics at work .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 20, 2019, 11:25:44 AM
Roger that...okay. I'm a babe in arms when it comes to politics, John.........hate it. By the way he's a back specialist/osteopath who calls to the gaff at all hours and only charges 50 quid...no friend of mine though...I always keep my boxers on.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 11:26:03 AM
Did Minister Kelly work for Board Failte before he was elevated to power .He would of known a few hoteliers im sure .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 20, 2019, 11:29:32 AM
Just sourced it...17/12/2015 amendment no 4........new classes of exempted development. Labour...the friend of the working man......fucking mongs who believe it.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 11:32:38 AM
Anyhoo back to the Protestant Proposal If Boris comes back to Parliament with a deal will they pass it .The Conservative IRA and its leader Reess Mogg will try to kill the UDA prods for selling out .Yer one from Scotland will vote against it as she dosent want any Brexit The Independent Jocks from Jockland will vote against it as they want independence .Even if Boris gets some sort of deal wil the English Dail vote for it .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 20, 2019, 11:35:13 AM
Any Queen's Counsel in N.I. or Scotland? lol
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 11:41:42 AM
Just sourced it...17/12/2015 amendment no 4........new classes of exempted development. Labour...the friend of the working man......fucking mongs who believe it.

I wrote an essay years ago on this for an exam .Why are the Arabs buying Stud Farms all over Britain and Ireland .As soon as the oil runs out or the people rebel the royalfamilies will flea .Governments in return for investment will grant them residency and planning for these huge estates to rehouse their dynasties .Remember Charlie sold Passports to Arabs years ago in return for a 1 million £investment .I think Albert Reynolds had a partner from the sand in his dog food factory I know Vincent O Brien had a Trainers assistant all Irish passport buyers .Lip Ireland has one of the best climates in the world temperate and plenty of drinking water .You see Google ,Facebook every big company on earth buying OFFICE space in Ireland OFFICE space can easily be converted into LIVING space in future .Look at the gentrification of the City Center corpo flats being demolished and replaced by affordable housing starting at 400K .Charliestarted the ethnic cleansing of the City when he convinced Tony Gregory to suggest redevelopement of the Docks .Not to many natives living in the Google Ghetto .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 20, 2019, 11:46:22 AM
Just sourced it...17/12/2015 amendment no 4........new classes of exempted development. Labour...the friend of the working man......fucking mongs who believe it.

I wrote an essay years ago on this for an exam .Why are the Arabs buying Stud Farms all over Britain and Ireland .As soon as the oil runs out or the people rebel the royalfamilies will flea .Governments in return for investment will grant them residency and planning for these huge estates to rehouse their dynasties .Remember Charlie sold Passports to Arabs years ago in return for a 1 million £investment .I think Albert Reynolds had a partner from the sand in his dog food factory I know Vincent O Brien had a Trainers assistant all Irish passport buyers .Lip Ireland has one of the best climates in the world temperate and plenty of drinking water .You see Google ,Facebook every big company on earth buying OFFICE space in Ireland OFFICE space can easily be converted into LIVING space in future .Look at the gentrification of the City Center corpo flats being demolished and replaced by affordable housing starting at 400K .Charliestarted the ethnic cleansing of the City when he convinced Tony Gregory to suggest redevelopement of the Docks .Not to many natives living in the Google Ghetto .

Yes...agree with all of the above. The Indo today has a headline, Mr McG...you need to read it....corporatism in full-flow. One thing I'll mention is that a certain Beef-Mogul is buying up small holdings all over Western Eire.....he was in the news for "allegedly" selling shady beef about 30 yrs ago....a good friend of Mr Lee, who bought a certain gaff from another Horsey-Man near Clane...Mr Lee is a billionaire....he is here to buy factories.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 11:54:01 AM
Farmers were encouraged to invest in making more meat and milk then when they were in debt they were encouraged to sell their Co Ops now they have no buyers for their over supply of meat or milk so will go bust and their land will be bought up and held on to for residential purposes down the line .Climate change will make LA Africa southern Europe all uninhabitable for the wealthy and the exodus will lead to Irelands Green and plesant .I had a lad in the car a few years ago he said there was 8 acres beside him for sale he was interested in expanding but it sold for 3x the value he recons it was bought as a ransom strip to undermine small farmers and force them into bankrupcy .You can be sure Cannabis growing will never be allowed in Ireland as it might make farmers viable .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 01:15:50 PM
DEAL OR NO DEAL by 31st  I SAY NO DEAL .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 20, 2019, 01:16:59 PM
No Brexit. The Roman Empire can only collapse once more before Gabriel blows his trumpet.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 01:23:22 PM
No Brexit. The Roman Empire can only collapse once more before Gabriel blows his trumpet.

Britain is only a cleptocracy nobody really gives a fuck what they do .Its not been the same since the top ten tunes on Top of the Pops were all British Glam Rock or the Charlton brothers kicked Ball .Roman Empire died when Dr Martin allowed the Corpo straighten and widen the road to the airport out side St Patricks .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 20, 2019, 01:26:35 PM
Not yet, John...The E.U. is the Roman Empire...nothing to do with religion or Italy....Don't forget that Lagarde said after the Lehmans Bros collapse...."never have happened if it was Lehman Sisters"....moral superiority....last one will be ruled by women, led by women and fucked up by women...all white women, btw.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 01:43:18 PM
We are beginning to see confusion .Joe Stiglets calling Ireland Scumbag thieving Filth .Prods looking to save face Boris probably on full time anastetic but the Backstop is still the weapon of choice for the EU to beat the Brits with .It dosent matter what Compromise is reached the EU want Capitulation by the Crown .Covney at least is trying to warn us while Leo wants to look like he tried .Thought Stiglits calling Ireland out was intersting as the article in the Indo is a direct copy of his Colum in the NYT .The Yanks as well as the EU dont like the fact Ireland is robbing or should I say facilitating others to rob national tax coin .Sort of a shrouded message for Ireland not to depend on the USA for any Brexit support as the Brits are better friends to the Yank War Machine than Shaleigh shaking Leprecauns .Support for Ireland seems to be waining while the EU are setting us up to take the fall if the Brits exit .In times of need dont think a sniper could locate Noonan or Enda they both seem to have gone to ground followed by the pension claiming Adams .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 20, 2019, 01:48:06 PM
Was Coveney's bro in charge when Greencore folded?..........good mate of the beef man.........his aulfella, r.i.p., died out walking.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 20, 2019, 01:51:01 PM
Was Coveney's bro in charge when Greencore folded?..........good mate of the beef man.........his aulfella, r.i.p., died out walking.

A few Goodmen !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on September 20, 2019, 07:42:50 PM
Was Coveney's bro in charge when Greencore folded?..........good mate of the beef man.........his aulfella, r.i.p., died out walking.
Fell trying to rescue his Jack Russell while walking along the cliffs...Mar dhea!!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Coveney
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 23, 2019, 08:41:07 AM
Gamechanger As I have been pointing out Deuchabank is more broken than ANGLO .German economy is in the toilet .Now will the EU stand with Ireland while their economy is crashing .EU just held Veradker Down and Shit in the lying Bastards Mouth ,by saying if the Brits Crash out there WILL BE A HARD BORDER the Lying Sodomite Prince has told us all there wont be .Germany wont want any Tarriffs on exported Cars to the UK so will they put pressure on Ireland to give way on Brexit .France might offer Irish voters a free Thomas Cook holiday out of Europe .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 23, 2019, 09:17:29 AM
See Air BnB is going to the markets today...estimated value of €20 billion....Back on topic...Brexit means the collapse of the EU.......Ireland is nothing but a vassal state as someone already alluded....
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 23, 2019, 10:23:40 AM
I told yis the EU that yod are all so fond of , would hang Ireland out to dry when push came to shove
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 23, 2019, 10:29:49 AM
I told yis the EU that yod are all so fond of , would hang Ireland out to dry when push came to shove

Not me Dalyer...I used to get myself into trouble with the posts I made relating to the Federal States of Europe. You're a newbie to all this. I don't think Mr Erm cares for it either...matter of irrelevance now as we're sold to them.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Cool Boola on September 23, 2019, 10:37:38 AM
It should be clear....what's going to happen....at this stage.....but it's not?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 23, 2019, 10:39:40 AM
I told yis the EU that yod are all so fond of , would hang Ireland out to dry when push came to shove

They havent hung us yet .Boris is a fucking idiot Corbyn is special needs Eu will callthe UKs bluff give them two options FUCK OFF or FUCK OFF UK have lost they overplayed their hand and nobody gives a fuck .Germany dont want tarriffs but if the UK leave Germany and France will grab their financialservices industries .The Game is up for the Brits .Brexit is now about saving two obsolete Political parties and their antiquated doctrines .Listen to the Old Marxist yesterday saying he wants to ban Private education Then so his stupidity cannot be disclosed says he wants to ban school league tables .Great idea to put intelligent kids in a class with some daft cunt who spends his schooldays drawing pictures of cocks and cunts in his jotter .Brexit where the Brits want to leave for ever .The Dumb Cunts cant even organise a week away without fucking it up .Boris Johnston the Thomas Cook of Prime Ministers .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 23, 2019, 10:46:11 AM
If Junker is right or Boris is a clown ..I might get a payday    .......A 'Hard Border' to be reintroduced in Ireland in 2019 - A 'Hard Border' to be reintroduced in Ireland in 2019
Yes
7/1
Stake: xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Had a little bit of this last year .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 23, 2019, 11:18:42 AM
The UK will come good in the end. There is one thing that would make brexit go away, and also remove all the anti EU feelings throughout Europe, but they would never do it.  STOP FREE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE AND REMOVE THE LEGAL OBLIGATION TO TAKE IN FOREIGNERS FROM OUTSIDE EUROPE,.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 23, 2019, 11:26:59 AM
Let's be honest. The reason people voted for brexit in the first place was immigration. This was the fundamental reason people voted out. The politicians are now trying to distance themselves from that fact. Even the brexit party don't seem to be banging that particular drum anymore. The Brits were sick and tired of watching their country being taken over by burkas and turbine etc etc, and who can blame them for wanting to take back control. This is also the reason for the rise of the likes of the AFDin Germany, and everywhere else. If we are not careful we could end up being the dumping ground for all these people
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 23, 2019, 11:40:14 AM
Dalymount you are losing the Plot .Brexit had nothing to do with nothing .The Conservative Party has a loonie fringe the Moggies .Camaron under the urging of his Coalition partners the Liberal Democrats included in his manifesto a once in a generation referendum to try to shut the madmen up .Liberals hoped the extreme Right  would leave the Conservatives leaving an opening for the Liberals to remain in government .He was so certain that he would win he didnt even campaign .NOBODY in the UK wants BREXIT if they did there would be riots just like Hong Kong .The Brits know they fucked up but Boris is fighting to save the Conservative Party by playing two ends against the middle .Corbyn and Labour are not thinking of saving the UK from itself they are hell bent on destroying the Conservatives but in the end they will also destroy themselves .Britain at the moment is government less The Government dont want to govern and the opposition dont want an election Democracy you must be joking .Every political movement to flourish needs a victim From The Romans and Christians to Hitler and the Jews Even Maggie Simpson hates the other baby with the Monobrow I would think you would meet hostility in Dalymount if you wore a Rovers Jersey yet without competition Football wouldnt exist .All humanity is based on Man and Superman always has been always will be Superman needs a victim its just a matter of identifying who you prefer to victimise .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 23, 2019, 01:35:47 PM
As a matter of fact John, there was hostility in the lane on Saturday morning at the ground with the que for tickets against rovers this coming Friday night. But however in relation to brexit, my point was, regardless of what reasons the POLITICIANS have for all the clock and dagger stuff, the nieve PEOPLE voted leave because of immigration
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 23, 2019, 02:14:34 PM
No they didnt vote leave because of Immigration .They voted leave because Britain is Broken has been since 1918 .Men were slaughtered for nothing in WW1 they realized that and the decline began A little Island west of Britain told the Mighty Commonwealth to go fuck off and the Commonwealth could do fuck all about it .Then India followed and the Empire Crashed .Britains success was based on robbing every other country in the world apart from Coal and a little Oil Britain has no National resources  Its a third world country in a first world location .British life has declined with only the ether of TV and Drugs and Dole Payments preventing total breakdown If your racist argument was true then British Soccer Supporters would not support teams with foreign players ,Drive foreign made cars or listen to Foreign music .You look back 60 years when the Brits made all the best Bikes,Cars engineering .It was all lies they made and exported shite like BSA bikes Morris 1100 cars The Japs made far superior stuff Just like the demise of Britain the USA is now suffering the same faith They maks shite nobody wants .Samsung make superior products to anything available from the USA .Look at other Empires .Italy,Greece,Egypt,Spanish Inca all built on theft they were Cleptocratic based none of them had any National Resources so were forced to rob to grow .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 23, 2019, 02:45:03 PM
John I base my belief regarding the reason for the Brits departure, purly on the British customers I have had over the past few years, and their continuing complaint that they don't know what it is to be British anymore because of the influx of foreigners. I am even told there are actually parts of the UK that the English language is now considered foreign
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 23, 2019, 02:53:50 PM
Any word on the supreme Court case, or when are we likely to hear ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 23, 2019, 05:50:45 PM
Any word on the supreme Court case, or when are we likely to hear ?
The 'did Boris lie to the Queen' case is due a verdict tomorrow, Tuesday.  Just in time for the Conservative party conference on Sunday.  Will they be electing a new Party leader...

Boris can be a serial liar, multiple adulterer & allround thicko but they don't mind.  But lying to the Queen, that's probably a no-no  >:(
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 23, 2019, 05:59:42 PM
John I base my belief regarding the reason for the Brits departure, purly on the British customers I have had over the past few years, and their continuing complaint that they don't know what it is to be British anymore because of the influx of foreigners. I am even told there are actually parts of the UK that the English language is now considered foreign

Racism was a big factor but there are a lot of issues in Britain Kids knifing kids poverty drugs major pains in the bollox .Its Broken
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 23, 2019, 06:01:13 PM
Any word on the supreme Court case, or when are we likely to hear ?
The 'did Boris lie to the Queen' case is due a verdict tomorrow, Tuesday.  Just in time for the Conservative party conference on Sunday.  Will they be electing a new Party leader...

Boris can be a serial liar, multiple adulterer & allround thicko but they don't mind.  But lying to the Queen, that's probably a no-no  >:(
If you call Boris a lying cunt are you saying the Queen is a dumb fuck for listening without asking her advisors .Going to be hard for the court to slag off the old woman
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 23, 2019, 06:26:50 PM
The Queen is just a figurehead who does what she's told.  (So would I if I was getting millions off the Govt each year)

Same as Michael D. here - he can't leave the country without permission from the Govt. 

Both of them do what they're told and get richly rewarded for it.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 23, 2019, 06:42:38 PM
The difference is, the office of president here is supposed to be above politics, yet the auld bollox never stops sticking his oar in . Just look at the most recent comments when he made contravertail comments about army pay. He may have been right, but this matter is political and he has no business saying what he did
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 23, 2019, 07:10:07 PM
Both of them are supposed to be above politics.  She's the head of one of their churches afterall!  Michael D.'s comments were controversial precisely because he is supposed to be above politics.  If anyone else said it, it wouldn't be controversial.

Maybe coincidental but... Defence Forces' officers vote to accept €10m package of increased allowances  (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/defence-forces-officers-vote-to-accept-10m-package-of-increased-allowances-952574.html)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 23, 2019, 08:16:34 PM
So how will the Supreme court rule .I think they would love to show they were powerfull BUT the seperation of powers I think they will say the decision is Political and outside their Juristriction .If they rule against the Prime Minister that creates huge Constitutional Crisis .So they will offer some sort of Bolloking short of calling him a Big Fat Liar Pants on Fire .If they go against him he will get what he wants .Recall Parliament put down a motion of Confidence in Him and his Government then Abstain if he loses then Corbyn has 14 days to form a government .I think if you were betting there is probably a better chance of Boris Playing outside right for West Brom than being Prime Minister after Christmas .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: watty on September 23, 2019, 08:40:31 PM
So how will the Supreme court rule .I think they would love to show they were powerfull BUT the seperation of powers I think they will say the decision is Political and outside their Juristriction .If they rule against the Prime Minister that creates huge Constitutional Crisis .So they will offer some sort of Bolloking short of calling him a Big Fat Liar Pants on Fire .If they go against him he will get what he wants .Recall Parliament put down a motion of Confidence in Him and his Government then Abstain if he loses then Corbyn has 14 days to form a government .I think if you were betting there is probably a better chance of Boris Playing outside right for West Brom than being Prime Minister after Christmas .
The Govt lawyer made that point.  The opposition had their chance and they fukked up.

I'm now in two minds.  The Supreme Court won't want to interfere in politics so the easy way out is to say Parliament had their chance and they messed up. 
Re Proroguing & the 5 weeks - how long is a piece of string?  But the commentators are saying the judges kept asking about remedies (i.e. Boris fukked up).
(Labour must be the stupidest political party in the world.  The amount of in-fighting at their conference is unbeliveable!)
I'm not a betting man but if I had to guess... I don't know  O:-) 
Pick a side - They give Boris & the Queen a pass & say Parliament had their chance but blew it?





The court might also be thinking that if they disagree with this Govt, the next Govt will surely abolish them so the court don't disagree with them also!
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 23, 2019, 09:40:56 PM
What pisses me off about it is, the cunt that took the case is a fukkin foreigner. The cheek of the cunt  to interfere in British politics. This cunt already took a case against the British government some time ago and won. She is a cunt that Gina Miller
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 23, 2019, 09:44:39 PM
Did any of yis see that young wan on the news giving out about climate change. Jeez she left them in no doubt what she thought of them. She eat the shite out of them. Saying they took her dreams. She is an awful looking boot though
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 23, 2019, 09:51:55 PM
There was something I noticed tonight on the news. They interviewed a load of kids from terenure collage about the rugger match on Saturday morning . Interestingly not one kid of foreign extract in the village to be seen. Yet how many times have you seen other similar news items involving school kids from much less affulant areas and there is ALWAYS loads of foreigners. Is this a case of they are welcome as long as they don't live in our posh areas ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 24, 2019, 03:18:50 AM
Ireland has the highest national debt per head of population in Europe, making the country especially vulnerable to a Brexit shock or loss of volatile corporate tax income.

In a downturn, the national debt and budget deficit could soar to perilous levels following a crash-out Brexit or other external shock, a Central Bank report has warned.

"The 2008 crisis is a vivid reminder of how negative economic shocks can trigger potentially unsustainable increases in government debt," said the report by Central Bank economists Thomas Conefrey, Rónán Hickey and Graeme Walsh.

The Government should take stronger measures to reduce the debt to mitigate what the authors called "an environment of elevated risks". Ireland's strong growth since exiting the Troika bailout in 2014 has pushed down the debt-to-gross domestic product (GDP) ratio, a standard measure for comparing countries' finances. But GDP is regarded as an unreliable measure for the Irish economy because of distortions linked to multinationals operating here.

The national debt remains above 100pc of gross national income (GNI), an alternative measure which tries to better measure economic output.

In real terms, the national debt has more than doubled over the past decade to €44,000 per man, woman and child in the State. It leaves us the most indebted even among Europe's other deeply indebted nations.

The Central Bank's economists forecast that, if the UK leaves the EU without agreement, Ireland would be forced back into deficit spending and its debt ratio would remain stubbornly high through to 2025. Higher spending on unemployment benefits and debt financing combined with lower tax takes would add €22bn to the national debt by then and keep Ireland's debt-to-GNI ratio above 90pc, some 17 percentage points higher than in a benign environment, they calculated.

The report offered another external shock scenario: the sudden loss of €3bn in corporation tax, considered a possibility in several recent forecasts from the IMF, Irish Fiscal Advisory Council IRISH TAXI DRIVER and others that have highlighted the State's unprecedented reliance on tax collections from a handful of tech giants.

This shock, on its own, might drive up Ireland's debt ratio by around ((((((10 percentage points - )))))))but much more if accompanied by Brexit and a global economic slowdown.

"In reality, economic shocks can sometimes occur simultaneously," they wrote.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 07:00:46 AM
Pensioners should not look forward to the proposed fiver a week increase then ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 24, 2019, 07:26:48 AM
Did any of yis see that young wan on the news giving out about climate change. Jeez she left them in no doubt what she thought of them. She eat the shite out of them. Saying they took her dreams. She is an awful looking boot though

You think she writes her own speeches?....she's a pawn being used by big money-men like Gates and co with no shame..
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 24, 2019, 09:31:06 AM
Pensioners should not look forward to the proposed fiver a week increase then ?

Pensioners Vote so they will be looked after  The Government have been warned the economy is rocky so they vote to reduce LPT anybody think there is an election on the way .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 09:56:09 AM
But lippy regardless of whether or not money men are using her as a pawn, surely you agree the objective of what she is trying to achieve is extremely important, and very urgent ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 24, 2019, 10:00:46 AM
I think people of her age-group could do so much more to care for the environment by going to school/college and studying climate physics. Perhaps there, they could learn about Grand Solar Minimum Cycles and the Milankovitch Cycles etc...and of course, her parents could lead more productive lives other than protesting about "right-wingers" in Sweden....thought you might like that in particular, Dalyer...
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 10:09:17 AM
I didn't know her perants were involved in such protest, so fukk em.on another note, a kick in the bollox for the remainer scum this morning. The court found no evidence of corruption in the Arron Green leave case
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 24, 2019, 10:14:03 AM
I didn't know her perants were involved in such protest, so fukk em.on another note, a kick in the bollox for the remainer scum this morning. The court found no evidence of corruption in the Arron Green leave case

All connected, Dalyer...those paying taxes have most to fear from all these joined-up groups...Antifa activists are behind Extinction Rebellion and related Eco-Nazis groups. She won't have to worry about it as she'll be sitting like your wan that was shot in the face in the U.N. getting fat on Foie Gras and Chateau La Fite whilst your kids eat out of a Happy Pear disposable egg-cup.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 24, 2019, 10:17:16 AM
But lippy regardless of whether or not money men are using her as a pawn, surely you agree the objective of what she is trying to achieve is extremely important, and very urgent ?

Its bolloxology .It would make more sence and give greater guidance if the Young people lobbied the government to increase the driving age from 17 to 25 like they did with paying dole and if Students refused the SUSI grant and asked for it to be diverted into free transport to get tax paying workers to work .That would be leadership but crying out for somebody else to pick up the tab is all we are seeing .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: mercenary for hire on September 24, 2019, 10:26:32 AM
Bet the kid kills herself in ten years when she realises nobody actually gives a fuk about climate change.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 10:40:20 AM
Boris has lost and the cunt Miller won
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 24, 2019, 10:41:07 AM
Big trouble ahead...........where's that Yacht that youngwan was on moored?......
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 24, 2019, 10:44:16 AM
Bercow given the whip hand
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 24, 2019, 10:47:57 AM
UDA will be fucking annoyed big time .When Parliament was Porogued the bill to bring Gay Rights and Abortion to Ulster died now its back on the menue .UDA wont like that .Is Boris still viable as PM or will he just say fuck them all and Crash out as he has nothing left to lose ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 24, 2019, 10:53:20 AM
Prof David Starkey, the eminent historian, and honorary chair of many universities, nailed it when he said not one significant piece if legislation has been passed in Britain since the Brexit fall-out started...3 yrs of nothingness....and they're worried about a prorogued parliament?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 24, 2019, 10:58:10 AM
Now there is a ConstitutionalDilemma .You must Porogue parliament to offer a new Queens Speech to start Parliament but now its illegal to porogue parliament so how do you operate Parliament if it has no agenda as there has been no Queens Speech .British Democracy has Died break out the Guns .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 11:10:39 AM
Are you only realizing British democracy has died now ? British democracy died on 29/032019 when the UK were due to leave the EU and the political obstructionists made sure it didn't happen how dare the remainer scumbags talk about DEMOCERCY
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 11:11:41 AM
That big fat Scottish prick Ian Blackfoot is doing cartwheels because of the result
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 24, 2019, 11:16:38 AM
What Next Paul ?If the Jocks were out and the IRA turned up and voted the English and Wales would be Out of Europe by dinnertime .Moggie might call out the Speaker and cause mayhem just to fuck things up .Will Dominic Cummings abandon the sinking Ship and let Boris drown in the shit .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 24, 2019, 11:21:14 AM
Dalymount whats the story with Boris ,Is he safe froma vote of noconfidence by his own party for a year .Is the vote to elect him Prime Minister the same as a vote of confidence .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 11:24:50 AM
Must say, I didn't expect this result, and certainly not in such an uniquivicol manner. What next indeed ? I fear now brexit may not happen at all what bothers me mostly is when I hear people say we should be so grateful to the EU for all they have given us. What people forget is, we didn't get it for nothing. We lost our national Identity, our culture, our, heritage, and above all the sovereignty of our country
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 24, 2019, 11:30:05 AM
The anger in Britain it has to explode .Boris is a dead man walking but Corbyn is the most useless cunt in politics anywhere in the world .The only answer is Violence if they want Brexit they need to take it .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 24, 2019, 11:36:17 AM
As you know Dalymount I hoped Brexit would not happen but this is not the way to stop it .If the Conservatives do a deal with Farage they will win a huge majority .You can expect Labour and the Liberals to try for a second referendum before a General Election .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 24, 2019, 12:28:30 PM
Legal issue rather than political one. The issue of sovereignty crops up again. As it is a legal ruling he can appeal to the European Court of Justice, and knowing the arrogance of the man, he might just do that.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 12:29:11 PM
I would love to think your right about a collaboration between Farage, and Boris , but I'm mindful of something you said a few months ago, and that was that the brexit party would not win 1 seat in parliment, and I suspect your right. It may be that they are only seen as a protest party and that's what I'm afraid of. However Boris has nothing left to loose now, so he has to pick up the phone
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 12:31:26 PM
I had the same thought lippy, but how ironic would that be asking the very people he wants to get away from to save him
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 24, 2019, 12:32:50 PM
The Parliament and the Queen meet head on..........they need Oliver's Army again.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 12:34:30 PM
Would the ECJ have supramecy over the British supreme Court ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 24, 2019, 12:37:44 PM
Not sure in this case but they did enshrine all EU constitutional laws into their own, so my guess would be as of now...YES and because of a delayed judgement business could proceed until then. You'd need a Q.C. to know for sure Dalyer....where's Joe Brolly?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 24, 2019, 01:06:49 PM
Boris is trapped .The Opposition wont vote them out >WHY if there is a general election and the Conservatives do a deal with Farage they will win over a 100 seat majority .Corbyn is a trowback to 1930s Communism he is a danger to world peace .The only option for Conservatives is to vote no confidence in themselves .Then Corbyn gets a chance to form a government .Will the two Jock Women and the UDA Woman support him if not then its a general election and if the Conservatives get re elected they will leave Shackle the Disloyal Jocks toGB for ever cutting funding to the Jocks .The Real Iroony is the Jocks wont vote for a General Election but would vote for a vote to leave Parliament for ever .Expect Huge Violence in Great Britain .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 24, 2019, 02:12:42 PM
Did any of yis see that young wan on the news giving out about climate change. Jeez she left them in no doubt what she thought of them. She eat the shite out of them. Saying they took her dreams. She is an awful looking boot though
@ Dalymount, it's very seldom that I take exception to a post on here but the end of your last post has really annoyed me.
Greta Thunberg to me is the most inspirational young woman that I ever knew.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 24, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Dalymount whats the story with Boris ,Is he safe froma vote of noconfidence by his own party for a year .Is the vote to elect him Prime Minister the same as a vote of confidence .
Your Boris bet is looking good today John M !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 24, 2019, 02:50:15 PM
Would the ECJ have supramecy over the British supreme Court ?
It would depend on wheter it is a domestic matter or an EU matter ?
And that is yet another Quagmire !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Bob Shillin on September 24, 2019, 05:41:50 PM
Did any of yis see that young wan on the news giving out about climate change. Jeez she left them in no doubt what she thought of them. She eat the shite out of them. Saying they took her dreams. She is an awful looking boot though
@ Dalymount, it's very seldom that I take exception to a post on here but the end of your last post has really annoyed me.
Greta Thunberg to me is the most inspirational young woman that I ever knew.


Malala Youfsafzai?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 05:53:51 PM
Ah Bob what did ya say ffs I can't read chineeeeese
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Lizzzy on September 24, 2019, 05:58:06 PM
Did any of yis see that young wan on the news giving out about climate change. Jeez she left them in no doubt what she thought of them. She eat the shite out of them. Saying they took her dreams. She is an awful looking boot though
@ Dalymount, it's very seldom that I take exception to a post on here but the end of your last post has really annoyed me.
Greta Thunberg to me is the most inspirational young woman that I ever knew.


Malala Youfsafzai?

Lisa Simpson ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Bob Shillin on September 24, 2019, 05:58:57 PM
Ah Bob what did ya say ffs I can't read chineeeeese

https://www.malala.org/malalas-story (https://www.malala.org/malalas-story)

Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 24, 2019, 06:10:47 PM
Yeah I was more inspired by Lisa Simpson, in fact im more inspired by fukkin MAGGIE sinpson
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: silverbullet on September 24, 2019, 07:25:13 PM
Ah Bob what did ya say ffs I can't read chineeeeese

https://www.malala.org/malalas-story (https://www.malala.org/malalas-story)
One in a long line of worthy teenagers:
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/inspirational-stories/g5188/kids-who-changed-the-world/ (https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/inspirational-stories/g5188/kids-who-changed-the-world/)
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 25, 2019, 08:27:07 AM
The vultures are gathering in Westminster this morning, Boris is lucky he won't be back from the states in time to face them. They are also gathering on Capitol Hill to try to impeach president Trump hopefully this will make him more poplar , and put that auld cunt Palosi in her place
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 25, 2019, 09:16:24 AM
Men are the enemy Dalyer...........there's a big revolution occurring under your nose.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 25, 2019, 09:35:07 AM
Explain please lippy
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 25, 2019, 09:38:11 AM
Not getting paid enough to do that. "End Patriarchy" is one of the placards associated with the eco-mob.......is their real concern climate change or just men getting in the way? You can do your own groundwork........
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 25, 2019, 09:44:46 AM
Look up eco-feminism, Dalyer. Trump is on their hate list.........he has questioned the myth surrounding "man made" climate patterns.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 25, 2019, 05:13:09 PM
Did any of yis see that young wan on the news giving out about climate change. Jeez she left them in no doubt what she thought of them. She eat the shite out of them. Saying they took her dreams. She is an awful looking boot though
@ Dalymount, it's very seldom that I take exception to a post on here but the end of your last post has really annoyed me.
Greta Thunberg to me is the most inspirational young woman that I ever knew.
Why did you not address this post DM ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 25, 2019, 05:28:02 PM
Boris took a severe kick in de Bollix yesteday,
DM's 'Auld Doll' has his Nuts in her hand now,
it depends now how hard she squeezes ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 25, 2019, 06:29:28 PM
Why did I not address the post ? Ken you said she inspires you , and I'm delighted for you, and far as the ugly boot remark is concerned, and your annoyence of it, as John Wayne would say I don't care much wether you are or not
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 25, 2019, 07:36:01 PM
Dalymount whats the story with Boris ,Is he safe froma vote of noconfidence by his own party for a year .Is the vote to elect him Prime Minister the same as a vote of confidence .
Your Boris bet is looking good today John M !

Its a coin toss .If he gets an election he might be safe but the big questionnow is was he paying strumpet with government contracts its probably 10/11 both ways .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 25, 2019, 07:41:32 PM
On our oil price bey your about 1/100 to collect but Boris and Trump are both in trouble a war with Iraq might give them some cover and destroy the oil price .War with Iraq would increase oil price which would have a huge impact on China as they buy all their oilwhile Britain and USA have their own oil .The day Donny T wakes up and realizes that the first black president got a nobel Peace prize and a Paroxide Blond leader will never get one he WILL start a War .Iraq ,China,Veneswela,Korea Lichtenstein,Bluebell Uniteds Saturday division 2B side he has many targets .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Shallowhal on September 25, 2019, 09:11:35 PM
Veneswela

Just aswell we're all dislexick fukers here!! lol
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 25, 2019, 09:37:32 PM
FFs Hal get with the joke I have been mispellen in every post I post thanks to the Silver Bullett corekten my grammer .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Lizzzy on September 25, 2019, 10:52:17 PM
Why did I not address the post ? Ken you said she inspires you , and I'm delighted for you, and far as the ugly boot remark is concerned, and your annoyence of it, as John Wayne would say I don't care much wether you are or not

Laughing, he got you with a real doozy there Ken.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 25, 2019, 11:53:21 PM
John question for ya . My understanding of the impeachment process in the states us that as well as the house of reps, the Democrats must win over two thirds of the Senate as well. This being the case how can they hope to impeach the president when the Senate is in Republican control ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 26, 2019, 07:43:05 AM
John question for ya . My understanding of the impeachment process in the states us that as well as the house of reps, the Democrats must win over two thirds of the Senate as well. This being the case how can they hope to impeach the president when the Senate is in Republican control ?

Its all bollox by the War mongering Democrats .Donny wont start a war for the Money hungry Military  industrial complex .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 26, 2019, 08:01:38 AM
Yeah, but that's not what I'm asking I'm saying can the Democrats STILL impeach Donny even without the support of the Senate ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 26, 2019, 08:03:13 AM
John has talked many times about it being time to get a gun, looking at the goings on yesterday in the Commons he may not be wrong
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 26, 2019, 08:36:20 AM
Yeah, but that's not what I'm asking I'm saying can the Democrats STILL impeach Donny even without the support of the Senate ?


Its all bollox No chance of him being impeached ,No chance of Biden being President no chance of any Democrat thats on the ballot at the moment beating Donny T and they know it so now they Play the Man Donny T WILL start WW3 if he is re elected ,at the moment he is focused on re election .America NEEDS a WAR to send out a message to the world that America still thinks they are Powerfull .A madman with a virus could wipe out any country on earth .That was sort of the message the Russians were sending out with their Novachook attack .The reality is all the Nuclear weapons on earth wont keep you safe or gain you respect .Countries like GB and America nolonger have any role in the World just look at Iraq trowing shit at both the Americans and Brits and they can do fuck all .Like the UK the USA is broken
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 26, 2019, 09:10:59 AM
Our low life scumbag governmenr are at it AGAIN ..The Department of Finance appears to have ignored advice from the Department of Foreign Affairs by agreeing a double taxation arrangement with Ghana, a treaty that critics say will rob the African country of revenues.

A report by Christian Aid on the eve of a UN General Assembly meeting on finance and development for poor nations said that not only will the tax agreement, signed in February, cut tax revenues in Ghana, but it would also enable profit shifting and tax avoidance. Ghana is the poorest of all the countries with double tax agreements with Ireland and it is a recipient of aid from here.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 26, 2019, 09:24:54 AM
Ghana ? Isn't that where that cunt Gina Miller comes from ?
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 26, 2019, 11:07:38 AM
 rofl
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 26, 2019, 11:19:20 AM
Laughing at the way you said it, dalyer...not what you said. Just to be clear......
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 26, 2019, 11:34:35 AM
You dont ever see cause and effect Dalymount .If Scum like the Irish were not robbing coin from these third world countries their people wouldnt have to fuck off out of the kips .Our Scum Government from your Sovreign Nation are more vile than most previous imperial powers who stole the wealth of other Nations .We the Irish are Looting tax on behalf of big business we are the Fucking Scum of the earth .To misquote John Lennon First you must to rob as you kill if you want to be like the Folks on the Hill .The Irish Empire is alive and well Fromearly 1900 when the Irish went to the States became policemen extorted protection money from the honest decent criminals who extorted protection from decent hard working men and women and Just like the Irish bent copper the Irish Bent Politicians collect a nice pension .You are directing your anger and hatered at the effect not the cause Dolymount .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: The Liffey Lip on September 26, 2019, 11:44:09 AM
British Guiana Dalyer....not Ghana. Part of the Caribbean the Brits ruled over.......Guyana it is called now.
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 26, 2019, 01:54:45 PM
Isn't her aul fella still a practicing barrister over there ? He probably put the cunt up to taking Boris to court
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Belker on September 26, 2019, 04:09:50 PM
Isn't her aul fella still a practicing barrister over there ? He probably put the cunt up to taking Boris to court
It was the brits who invaded her gaff way back, now today they are reaping what they sowed !
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 26, 2019, 06:13:13 PM
Highly unlikely Boris will be able to achieve a brexit deal on 17 of oct, and even if he did, the chances of the cunts in parliament approving it is remote to say the least
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: Vikkiz on September 26, 2019, 09:48:15 PM
To be impeached the Republicans get to supena anyone they want and they have to show up and answer questions under oath.
 It’s not to get rid of Donny but to catch the others by the short and curlies
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 26, 2019, 10:08:12 PM
There is a possibility Donny set this whistleblower stunt up himself to get the Democrats to try to impeach him. He has wanted them to do it for a long time, and this could be his way of forcing them into it. I know it sounds off the wall, but the way politics is going anything goes I suppose
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: john m on September 27, 2019, 11:21:04 AM
Dollymount .What if Boris does an Orban and forces the EU to Suspend the UK from Voting Rights in the European Parliament How do you think that would play out with the British Voters .
Title: Re: The Brexodus
Post by: dalymount on September 27, 2019, 11:58:53 AM
If I was Boris I would try to get Orban to object to an extension. That way Boris would ask for the extension as he is now required to do, and it would not be granted if Orban objects because it has to be unanimous
Title: Re: The Brexodus
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