Author Topic: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park  (Read 3362 times)

Offline Dr. Martin Gooter Bling

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4593
  • Karma: +0/-0
https://m.herald.ie/news/elderly-will-be-put-in-jeopardy-if-taxis-denied-access-to-park-37250153.html

Taxi drivers are being inundated with calls from concerned elderly people about how to get to see the Pope.

The chair of the National Transport Assembly said elderly people attending the Pope's address in the Phoenix Park will be "put in jeopardy" if taxi drivers are not allowed inside the exclusion zone.

Negative

A controlled access area will be in effect from 6am until 11pm tomorrow.

Dublin Bus has organised certain dedicated papal transport hubs near the Phoenix Park within the zone.

However, taxi drivers will not be allowed inside the traffic exclusion zone.

This is something taxi driver Tony Roe says could have a negative effect on elderly people and wheelchair users hoping to attend the Pope's World Meeting of Families event.

Mr Roe, who is chairperson of the assembly, called on the Transport Minister Shane Ross to intervene and allow taxis to operate within the Phoenix Park and inside the exclusion zone.

"We have been inundated by people contacting us to order taxis for the Pope's visit in the Phoenix Park," Mr Roe told the Herald. "But there is uproar because there is a public ban on taxis in the park.

"In terms of wheelchair access, taxis are the only mode of transport where they can be transported from their house to the location.

"But taxis won't be allowed inside the Phoenix Park.

"So at the moment passengers such as elderly people and wheelchair users will be dumped out on the roadway outside the exclusion zone.

"Other modes of public transport are allowed in.

"It's farcical and causes a great inconvenience for taxi users.

"People will be dumped out of cars and it will cause a stressful situation.

Reasonable

"Hopefully nothing will happen.

"[But] this ban on taxis will jeopardise the safety of elderly people and it is way below the acceptable standard of reasonable behaviour."

More than 500,000 people are expected to attend the mass which takes place in Phoenix Park tomorrow.

People planning to travel are being urged to use public transport and not to drive to the venue.

A number of park-and-ride hubs are being set up to facilitate the large crowds expected to attend.


Offline watty

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8650
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2018, 08:12:54 pm »
Taxi drivers are being inundated with calls from concerned elderly people about how to get to see the Pope.

1. Televison
2. Pay your taxi driver a bit extra and he might put a white napkin on his head and talk mumbo-jumbo Italian to you  O:-)  O:-)  O:-)
Getting old is compulsory whilst growing up is voluntary.

Offline Rat Catcher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26802
  • Karma: +34/-65535
  • Part Time Amateur Scum
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2018, 09:11:16 pm »
Buonasera.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

john m

  • Guest
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2018, 10:43:05 pm »
Top man Tony last time I was on telly with Pat Kenny explaining that there was no work visa requirement to drive a taxi Tony was on the same programme blaming the Queen of England for taxi suicides .

Offline Dr. Martin Gooter Bling

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4593
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2018, 02:45:30 am »
that's incorrect john.
that chap was making the point that there was a hullabaloo about the impending visit of the queen and there was'nt a hullabaloo about suicides in ireland, notably in the taxi game as well.
if i hadda been there that night i wudda been having words with Prat Benny for pissing aside his contribution like a cunt.

Online mercenary for hire

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12418
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2018, 02:57:02 am »
Tony is sound.I've met him on the ranks.He was right in saying we were fecked over when the queen came.Myself, I'll lose 3 days wages over the Pope visit but its not that big a deal because I can make it up next month now that the economy has improved.

The Liffey Lip

  • Guest
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2018, 09:15:20 am »
World Families thingy was beamed all over the world....the drip-down for tourism will be significant. Every second person being interviewed was from some obscure part of the globe....short-term thinking is for fools. He is here because of it....not some showbiz fest in the Phoeno....Certain lobby groups will ensure he is the support act there in their quest for fame and glory.
Great to see the Judo instructor brother there at the Capuchin centre..........top man...taught the Zambian or Zimbabwean team.

Online mercenary for hire

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12418
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2018, 09:31:17 am »
There's no shortage of tourists in Dublin for the foreseeable future.The Gardai overreact anytime someone important visits our city. They'll all be getting triple time for closing off roads that didn't really need to be closed.Sure they did the same for the Obama and Queen visit,and some might say Ed Sheeran too.

The only positives I see are freshly painted road markings and a few extra planter beds on the Navan Road.Like anyone would notice.Better than nothing I suppose.The city will be back to normal tomorrow.Ya won't see a copper for weeks again.

Offline Rat Catcher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26802
  • Karma: +34/-65535
  • Part Time Amateur Scum
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2018, 10:10:21 am »
Why the concern about folk in wheelchairs? They don't have to walk anywhere. As far as I can ascertain there are no buses dropping within the restricted area on the Castleknock side. The "bus hub" is at Laurel Lodge which is outside the M50 ring.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

Online mercenary for hire

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12418
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2018, 10:21:21 am »
Are ya gonna be walking from Laurel Lodge to the Pope or does the bus bring ya closer?Ya might be in need of a wheelchair yourself..That's about good hour walking.

Offline Rat Catcher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26802
  • Karma: +34/-65535
  • Part Time Amateur Scum
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2018, 10:34:53 am »
Walking from Laurel Lodge, that's where the bus terminates on that side and you have to enter via the gate specified on the ticket save in exceptional circumstances - presumably elderly, physically disabled, infirm, ethnic minority, etc. No bodder to us, sure we climbed Mount Vesuvius a couple of weeks back and walked around Pompeii for a few hours in 30+C temperatures with blazing sunshine!
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

Online mercenary for hire

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12418
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2018, 10:42:18 am »
Yeah but it might rain..sounds like a good day out I'd say the surrounding pubs will be jammed afterwards.

I don't see why they couldn't at least run the buses to the roundabout at the Aras.

If ya faked a heart attack the ambulance might bring ya to the hospital in Blanch and save ya the walk out...

john m

  • Guest
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2018, 11:04:30 am »
GOOD MAN RODENT SUPPORTING THIS     

BY  now you’ll be thoroughly sick of hearing the numbers involved in Pope Francis’s visit to Ireland this weekend.

25,000: The quantity of sliced pans that, it’s estimated, will be consumed by the peckish faithful in the Phoenix Park.

31,250: the total litres of milk to be drunk in their flasks of tea.

2,500: the number of portaloos.

500,000: the estimated crowds expected to congregate in the park.

Here are some other numbers you’ll be sickened to hear.

300: the number of priests who abused children over 70 years in six parishes in the US state of Pennsylvania.

900: the number of pages in a report published last week following a two-year grand jury investigation detailing the abuse of those priests.

1,000: the number of identifiable victims.

7: the age of a little girl who was raped in hospital after she got her tonsils out.



18 months: the age of the youngest victim.

There are details in the report that make for physically nauseating and – for anyone who has opened a newspaper in Ireland in the past 16 years – horribly familiar reading.

The Murphy report on the sex abuse scandal in the Catholic archdiocese of Dublin was published nine years ago, but it foreshadows with depressing accuracy what the FBI agents involved in the Pennsylvania report last week called the “playbook” for concealing the truth.

Rule number one: rely on euphemisms. “Never say ‘rape’; say ‘inappropriate contact’ or ‘boundary issues’,” the Pennsylvania report notes. When a priest has to be removed tell parishioners he is on “sick leave”.

Rule number two: don’t ask too many hard questions, and make sure whoever is asking the questions is one of your own.

Rule number three: avoid scandal. Scandal is a word that crops up again and again in the grand jury report, something to be avoided at all costs, the worst possible thing that could befall the community. Not the rape of children, mind, just the scandal it might cause.


Rule number six: if a predator’s conduct becomes known and scandal is looming move him on to somewhere no one will know he is an abuser. Finally, and most crucially: never, ever go to the police. Scandal averted. Job done.

Secrecy
The Murphy report also found that the Dublin archdiocese’s preoccupations, at least until the mid-1990s, were “the maintenance of secrecy, the avoidance of scandal, the protection of the reputation of the Church, and the preservation of its assets”.

Judge Yvonne Murphy found that the welfare of children, “which should have been the first priority, was not even a factor to be considered in the early stages”.

In the spirit of transparency, let’s dispense with the euphemisms. This is what we know. The Catholic Church was responsible for a systematic, decades-long, global cover-up of the rape and abuse of hundreds of thousands of children by its own foot soldiers.

Until it admits that at the highest level, the expressions of deep regret and sadness; the promises to do better; the thoughts and prayers for forgiveness and healing; aren’t merely meaningless. They’re insulting to victims.

They’re also insulting to the well-intentioned three-quarters of a million or so people who will turn out to see Pope Francis over this weekend.

One of those whose name crops up more than 200 times in the Pennsylvania report, Cardinal Donald Wuerl, currently the archbishop of Washington, was due to address the World Meeting of Families this week. He called the abuse of children “a terrible tragedy”, as though it was a calamity no one could have foreseen or stopped.

I was a very small child when Pope John Paul visited. I have only dim memories of most of it. A hum of excitement at my convent school. An older relative talking about getting a tent and going with her father to the Phoenix Park.

But I do clearly remember my adored granddad, a thoughtful, intelligent man not given to high drama, saying that he wouldn’t go into the back garden to see a pope. I was shocked enough that the words imprinted themselves on my four-year-old brain. These days I wonder how he knew.

Opportunity
The Catholic Church believes itself to be the “one true church”. These 36 hours represent an unparalleled opportunity for Pope Francis to confront the one incontrovertible truth in all of this: that his church knew about the paedophiles in its ranks all along, and it did nothing to stop them, and it knowingly covered up their abuse. The actions of the priests who were raping little boys and girls were hidden.

It is an opportunity for Pope Francis, who appears to be a compassionate, humane man, to state clearly what the church will now do differently.

There are lines in the Pennsylvania report I can’t get out of my head. In one case a priest said he wasn’t sure about the scale of his abuse. “With my history anything is possible.”

Another priest finally agreed to step down after years of complaints, asking – and receiving – in return for a letter for his next job. That job was at Walt Disney World. Think about that when you’re picnicking in the park this weekend.

Offline Rat Catcher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26802
  • Karma: +34/-65535
  • Part Time Amateur Scum
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2018, 01:23:03 pm »
I certainly don't support any of that and I don't believe Pope Francis or anyone in the congregation does, erm. I'm not a religious person but the RCC has played a significant role in my life. I was baptised into the Church and brought up as a practising Catholic, attending Church weekly as a minor and attending preparatory and secondary schools run by the Marist Fathers. While my own young lads weren't brought up to practice the faith they were baptised into the Church. From a personal perspective, my interaction with the Church has been wholly positive. I guess it's noteworthy that the RCC was inextricably linked to the Irish State in the first half of the State's pre-EEC/EU existence. It was the sole provider of Education, Healthcare and Welfare services for much of that period.

Abuses of power and people did occur, there's no doubt about that. Culturally, we placed too much trust and faith in the Church with no checks and balances. To some extent we were happy to turn a blind eye to how the Church dealt with some of society's "problems" once such "problems" were kept out of the spotlight. It's a part of out culture even those who complain about the erosion of culture as the State grows are happy to leave behind. Pope Francis had some tough words for those responsible for cover ups within the Church but, I agree, words are cheap. I guess the Pope's denouncing the previously held belief that single mothers have committed mortal sin is significant and, perhaps, indicative of the inherent delay in trying to implement change within an organisation as wealthy, powerful and influential as the RCC.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

The Liffey Lip

  • Guest
Re: Elderly will be 'put in jeopardy' if taxis denied access to park
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2018, 11:28:45 am »
He was too busy fighting corruption in Argentina to know very much about this neck of the woods....he won that battle but the problem being, Popes tend to be too old to maintain a prolonged war against evil.

 


Show Unread Posts